[P] MasterOfHyrule1: 64x64 flat nether fortress battle area
[H] karamelgiraf: For what?
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: pigs, wither skeletons, magma slimes
[H] karamelgiraf: Yeah, not pigs no.
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: I meant nether pigs
[H] karamelgiraf: Yeah, and I meant no to them
[H] karamelgiraf: Don't punch them, consider them endangered.
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: endangered, yet they keep coming from nowhere
[H] karamelgiraf: Dude, no.
[P] yo4you: What wrong with punching pigs?
[H] karamelgiraf: regular pigs, go for it Yo
[H] karamelgiraf: Pigmen, no.
[P] yo4you: Netherpigs, I've killed 2700 so far
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: I'd kill cats and dogs, if there were enough spawning around me :)
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: I'm that evil
[M] gangstahwezel: just to be clear. dont agrivate zombiepigmen, since they will attack anyone
[H] karamelgiraf: It has nothing to do with that. Because of the small nether
[H] karamelgiraf: That
[P] yo4you: Oh is that new?
[H] karamelgiraf: No, it's always been like that
[P] yo4you: First I've heard of it
[H] karamelgiraf: And now I know why I sometimes have to run for my life when entering Nether..
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: wait, wait, wait... you are not allowed to fight a netherpig, seriously?
[H] karamelgiraf: Yes
[P] yo4you: Well depriving us of completely valid game mechanics is not a good solution
[H] karamelgiraf: It's always been the rule...
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: YES, stopping me from fighting something, is a horible rule
[P] yo4you: Is it in the rules?
[H] karamelgiraf: Like, not fighting players?
[P] Valtyr: What do you need to kill pigmen for?
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: now, if you are talking about the nether portal next to the hub, then I can undersand
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: but when it's in your own land area
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: jeeze
[P] yo4you: To make skellies spawn, to get gold, to get xp, to get meat
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[M] gangstahwezel: ok listen
[M] gangstahwezel: if you attack pigmen. they will attack everyone else
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: then no one should come to my nether area
[M] gangstahwezel: and you dont want that
[P] yo4you: It's not server wide
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: I'd put up a giant fence if I had to
[H] karamelgiraf: There is no such thing, no claims can be made in the Nether.
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: We need this rule updated, and compromised then for fairness
[P] yo4you: There's a radius, as long as you warn people it's fine and it's not permanent
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: especially when you need a lot of gold
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: exactly, it's a limited time
[P] yo4you: We don't need this rule we just need to be civil and careful
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: agreed
[H] karamelgiraf: Or actually adher to the rules, and not break them.
[M] gangstahwezel: ill ask ace for more clarification
[M] gangstahwezel: all i know is that i got wrecked a few times by pigmen during the tree build
[H] karamelgiraf: Same
[H] karamelgiraf: And on this server.
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: build challenges, should have different rules
[H] karamelgiraf: Cause the spawns are so close together
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: since it's more compact
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: and if this server upgrades to a smaller server, then yes, we kind of need pigman boundries
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: BTW, no one come near my area in the nether. While I was fighting blazes, attacked some pigs
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: yesterday
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: Nothing about pigs in the minecraft rule thread... yet no rule for wither here either
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: don't get why some rules are only on the signs
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: going to the hub to check all the signs
[M] gangstahwezel: look
[M] gangstahwezel: im not the most up to date with the way things work in minecraft
[M] gangstahwezel: but if someone gets killed by a pigman because someone else agrivated them
[M] gangstahwezel: its the same as killing them yourself
[M] gangstahwezel: and thats not allowed
[P] yo4you: That's a completely false analogy
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: isn't it also the same thing to stand in front of someone who did not see an oncoming fireball?
[P] yo4you: If I kill someone I'm trying to kill them
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: or failing to protect someone in battle?
[H] karamelgiraf: Why the hell are you arguing the mods and helpers btw....
[H] karamelgiraf: You're being told, don't do it.
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: called discussion
[H] karamelgiraf: So don't
[H] karamelgiraf: Nope, not how the server works.
[H] karamelgiraf: Rules are not up for discussion
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[P] yo4you: If I kill some pigmen I'm trying to get gold, if someone goes into an area that might contain danger
[P] yo4you: ous creatures and ends up dyign it isn't my fault
[P] Valtyr: seems like a really inefficient way to get gold imo
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: sure they are. rules can be changed if enough people agree it needs to
[H] karamelgiraf: No
[H] karamelgiraf: Rules are rules.
[H] karamelgiraf: Follow them.
[P] yo4you: It's hard to follow a rule if it isn't states anywhere
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: follow yes, but, it can still be changed in time
[H] karamelgiraf: I'm telling you
[H] karamelgiraf: Don't.
[P] yo4you: You told me now, so anyone else can kill as many pigmen as they want because they didn't read this?
[H] karamelgiraf: No
[H] karamelgiraf: No one can
[P] yo4you: And how would they know?
[H] karamelgiraf: Because it's the rules.
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: Karamel. you are a helper, right? Isn't your job just to help?
[P] yo4you: Where?
[H] karamelgiraf: Dude, do not start.
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: I'm saying. just help. I don't see this as your fight
[P] yo4you: I would love to not have this discussion, but can we be please be clear on one thing?
[H] karamelgiraf: Oh dear lord.
[M] gangstahwezel: stop arguing right now
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: ok, gang
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: welp, read every sign
[P] MasterOfHyrule1: only rule I saw was for the wither