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  2. Elec: is zombiemesh happy with zombie lore yes yes
  3. ZombieMesh: I'm happy that is exists, but the lore itself is kinda meh
  4. Elec: daw
  5. Elec: butwhs
  6. ZombieMesh: Needing to eat everyday is dumb. Humans dont even need to eat everyday, and a zombie isn't going to be using as much energy as humans
  7. Elec: did you read the rest of the sentence=
  8. Elec: ?
  9. Elec: XD
  10. ZombieMesh: Yes I did
  11. ZombieMesh: but suspended animation or w/e shouldnt happen after a day
  12. Elec: but it is happening already after a day
  13. Elec: it's basically the sleep you are seeing
  14. ZombieMesh: Why would a zombie sleep?
  15. Elec: because play hl2 and see how many zombies seem to wake up from a sleep when you come near?
  16. Elec: we're also utilising that mechanic time from time in the slums
  17. Elec: it's inefficient to walk around all day when there's no available prey
  18. ZombieMesh: That doesnt mean it's been only a day. It could mean that a food source isn't nearby and it's run out of energy, but running out of energy after a day means that zombies themselves are super inefficent and there'd be no reason for headcrabs to us humans
  19. ZombieMesh: it could also be a defense mechanism
  20. Elec: a day means they can run 24h fully active
  21. ZombieMesh: Zombies frrom DeadSpace play dead
  22. ZombieMesh: Any actual zombie in any zombie story can last way longer than a day
  23. ZombieMesh: and HC zombies arent fast
  24. Elec: " there'd be no reason for headcrabs to us humans"
  25. Elec: thee reason is, the only lifeform that exists in huge amounts on earth anymore
  26. Elec: is humans
  27. ZombieMesh: then why dont they just eat them?
  28. Elec: because headcrabs existed in a different place where infection went bettere
  29. Elec: and they didn't evolve over night to just eat humans?
  30. ZombieMesh: they can eat watermelons
  31. ZombieMesh: which
  32. ZombieMesh: dont exist on their planet
  33. Elec: you don't need to have something on your planet exist
  34. Elec: to be compatible with it
  35. Elec: (though I have no idea wheere you got that watermelon thing from)
  36. ZombieMesh: Actual HL2?
  37. ZombieMesh: Lamar eats watermelons
  38. Elec: *shrug*
  39. ZombieMesh: and its proven they are omnivores
  40. Elec: 23:37 - Elec: you don't need to have something on your planet exist
  41. 23:37 - Elec: to be compatible with it
  42. ZombieMesh: so why wouldnt they just eat humans and plants if taking over a human is a burden for them?
  43. Elec: because instinct tells them to infect, developed over decades from infecting stronger lifeforms in other areas?
  44. Elec: a headcrab is an animal, not sentient
  45. Elec: he can't just go "oh human race is weak, let's all collectively decide not to infect!"
  46. Elec: additionaly infection is required for reproduction
  47. Elec: so to increase their numbers they need to infect anyway
  48. ZombieMesh: No, headcrabs dont need to infect to reproduce
  49. ZombieMesh: headcrabs dont reproduce that way
  50. ZombieMesh: they are born from the big headcrab from hl1
  51. Elec: they do here
  52. Elec: additional the big headcrab thing kinda got redconed in hl2
  53. Elec: and the black headcrab suggests that infection is a secondary method of reproduction
  54. ZombieMesh: Even if they need to infect to reproduce, the lore is just kinda bad. I understand you're going to defend your lore, but the points your making so far dont convince me
  55. ZombieMesh: -shrug-
  56. Elec: well
  57. ZombieMesh: sorry dude
  58. Elec: they're logical points
  59. Elec: so going "they don't convince me"
  60. Elec: is rather bad
  61. Elec: either they work
  62. ZombieMesh: A zombie needing to eat everyday means that they will all go into suspended sleep after a day and never move and there'd be close to zero threat
  63. Elec: or they do not work
  64. Elec: that's why they go to suspended sleep sooner? to be able to wake up when prey is nearby?
  65. ZombieMesh: also, why would other zombies in a devestated been asleep and some arent?
  66. Elec: it said they go to sleep when there is no prey
  67. Elec: not that they go to sleep when their energy oges zerpo
  68. Elec: because some zombies found food
  69. ZombieMesh: zombies are active in ravenholm when no one is nearby
  70. Elec: others didn't?
  71. Elec: actualy one guy is neraby
  72. ZombieMesh: then why arent they all awake?
  73. Elec: and constantly pisses them off
  74. Elec: 23:42 - Elec: because some zombies found food
  75. 23:42 - Elec: others didn't?
  76. ZombieMesh: why wouldnt they constantly be at them
  77. Elec: because they are not cooridinating over a swarm intelligence?
  78. ZombieMesh: the lore says headcrabs are intelligent as dogs, and dogs can communicate
  79. Elec: impyling that intelligene is all you need to actually tell the others you found food
  80. ZombieMesh: No, but headcrabs would probably comminicate because they are weak as a singular entity
  81. Elec: sure, maybe? still don't see why a limit of 24h unsuspended activity is impossible
  82. ZombieMesh: Because headcrabs would die off as a threat super quick
  83. Elec: not really, no food avaiable to make the next 16 hours
  84. Elec: go to sleep
  85. Elec: wait till food is there again
  86. Elec: continue
  87. ZombieMesh: from a species standpoint, they would fall to narutal selection very quickly
  88. ZombieMesh: what if food never comes
  89. Elec: then their area is dead
  90. Elec: and they had no chance of survival anyway?
  91. ZombieMesh: Regular zombies move from dead areas
  92. ZombieMesh: well
  93. ZombieMesh: some
  94. Elec: implying that before the zombies infected the complete planet
  95. Elec: you didn't have more than enough food
  96. Elec: to cover a cross continent trip
  97. Elec: or that they had to make that trip in the first place
  98. Elec: because they got teleported all over the globe
  99. ZombieMesh: ??
  100. Elec: before almost all species on earth died and humanity got reduced by like 90%
  101. Elec: there was more than enough food
  102. Elec: that you could keep going until literally the city you are in and all neighbouring cities are empty
  103. ZombieMesh: Eating a bunch of humans wouldnt multiply your energy reserve. The difference between eating 10 humans in one day and eating 100 doesnt matter., because they'll eventually reach a cap where they get nothing from it
  104. Elec: great
  105. Elec: that means we can sustain even more headcrabs!
  106. Elec: your point?
  107. ZombieMesh: so zombies in a devasted area need to be able move from said area to get food
  108. ZombieMesh: but one day of energy is stupid
  109. Elec: then say how much days you want?
  110. Elec: instead of complaining?
  111. ZombieMesh: also why are headcrab zombies using up more energy than a regular
  112. ZombieMesh: im not complaining
  113. ZombieMesh: i made a statement, you defended it, and rebutted it
  114. Elec: yes you are, instead of going to me and simply asking to increase it to like a week
  115. Elec: stating you had a fear that the headcrab wasn't capable of finding its next target in 24 hours
  116. Elec: you came here and went
  117. Elec: "lore is meh"
  118. Elec: "this is shit"
  119. ZombieMesh: I didn't
  120. ZombieMesh: You asked
  121. Elec: which makes it actually even worse
  122. Elec: instead of working with me
  123. Elec: you remained silent
  124. ZombieMesh: ?
  125. ZombieMesh: You asked me personally if I got the post
  126. ZombieMesh: and I responded
  127. ZombieMesh: and then you asked why i made that response
  128. Elec: exactly
  129. Elec: 23:48 - Elec: yes you are, instead of going to me and simply asking to increase it to like a week
  130. 23:48 - Elec: stating you had a fear that the headcrab wasn't capable of finding its next target in 24 hours
  131. 23:48 - Elec: you came here and went
  132. 23:48 - Elec: "lore is meh"
  133. 23:49 - Elec: "this is shit"
  134. Elec: lore is meh
  135. ZombieMesh: No, you asked what i thought about the lore
  136. ZombieMesh: and i told you
  137. ZombieMesh: what i thought
  138. Elec: is the quickest way to psis somebody off
  139. ZombieMesh: and why i thought that way
  140. Elec: *starts hitting head on desk*
  141. ZombieMesh: I'm sorry if I upset you, but I believe this conversation is over if you think I am personally attacking you
  142. Elec: 23:32 - ZombieMesh: I'm happy that is exists, but the lore itself is kinda meh
  143. 23:32 - ZombieMesh: Needing to eat everyday is dumb. Humans dont even need to eat everyday, and a zombie isn't going to be using as much energy as humans
  144. ^ complaining
  145. "I have a problem with the 1 day limit on activity, I think the headcrabs could die before finding new pray"
  146. ^ constructively coopeerating
  147. Elec: and the second thing should happen right after reading it
  148. Elec: so that the lore can be improved
  149. ZombieMesh: I am sorry Elec, I am dont talking for now
  150. ZombieMesh: done*
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