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- Elec: is zombiemesh happy with zombie lore yes yes
- ZombieMesh: I'm happy that is exists, but the lore itself is kinda meh
- Elec: daw
- Elec: butwhs
- ZombieMesh: Needing to eat everyday is dumb. Humans dont even need to eat everyday, and a zombie isn't going to be using as much energy as humans
- Elec: did you read the rest of the sentence=
- Elec: ?
- Elec: XD
- ZombieMesh: Yes I did
- ZombieMesh: but suspended animation or w/e shouldnt happen after a day
- Elec: but it is happening already after a day
- Elec: it's basically the sleep you are seeing
- ZombieMesh: Why would a zombie sleep?
- Elec: because play hl2 and see how many zombies seem to wake up from a sleep when you come near?
- Elec: we're also utilising that mechanic time from time in the slums
- Elec: it's inefficient to walk around all day when there's no available prey
- ZombieMesh: That doesnt mean it's been only a day. It could mean that a food source isn't nearby and it's run out of energy, but running out of energy after a day means that zombies themselves are super inefficent and there'd be no reason for headcrabs to us humans
- ZombieMesh: it could also be a defense mechanism
- Elec: a day means they can run 24h fully active
- ZombieMesh: Zombies frrom DeadSpace play dead
- ZombieMesh: Any actual zombie in any zombie story can last way longer than a day
- ZombieMesh: and HC zombies arent fast
- Elec: " there'd be no reason for headcrabs to us humans"
- Elec: thee reason is, the only lifeform that exists in huge amounts on earth anymore
- Elec: is humans
- ZombieMesh: then why dont they just eat them?
- Elec: because headcrabs existed in a different place where infection went bettere
- Elec: and they didn't evolve over night to just eat humans?
- ZombieMesh: they can eat watermelons
- ZombieMesh: which
- ZombieMesh: dont exist on their planet
- Elec: you don't need to have something on your planet exist
- Elec: to be compatible with it
- Elec: (though I have no idea wheere you got that watermelon thing from)
- ZombieMesh: Actual HL2?
- ZombieMesh: Lamar eats watermelons
- Elec: *shrug*
- ZombieMesh: and its proven they are omnivores
- Elec: 23:37 - Elec: you don't need to have something on your planet exist
- 23:37 - Elec: to be compatible with it
- ZombieMesh: so why wouldnt they just eat humans and plants if taking over a human is a burden for them?
- Elec: because instinct tells them to infect, developed over decades from infecting stronger lifeforms in other areas?
- Elec: a headcrab is an animal, not sentient
- Elec: he can't just go "oh human race is weak, let's all collectively decide not to infect!"
- Elec: additionaly infection is required for reproduction
- Elec: so to increase their numbers they need to infect anyway
- ZombieMesh: No, headcrabs dont need to infect to reproduce
- ZombieMesh: headcrabs dont reproduce that way
- ZombieMesh: they are born from the big headcrab from hl1
- Elec: they do here
- Elec: additional the big headcrab thing kinda got redconed in hl2
- Elec: and the black headcrab suggests that infection is a secondary method of reproduction
- ZombieMesh: Even if they need to infect to reproduce, the lore is just kinda bad. I understand you're going to defend your lore, but the points your making so far dont convince me
- ZombieMesh: -shrug-
- Elec: well
- ZombieMesh: sorry dude
- Elec: they're logical points
- Elec: so going "they don't convince me"
- Elec: is rather bad
- Elec: either they work
- ZombieMesh: A zombie needing to eat everyday means that they will all go into suspended sleep after a day and never move and there'd be close to zero threat
- Elec: or they do not work
- Elec: that's why they go to suspended sleep sooner? to be able to wake up when prey is nearby?
- ZombieMesh: also, why would other zombies in a devestated been asleep and some arent?
- Elec: it said they go to sleep when there is no prey
- Elec: not that they go to sleep when their energy oges zerpo
- Elec: because some zombies found food
- ZombieMesh: zombies are active in ravenholm when no one is nearby
- Elec: others didn't?
- Elec: actualy one guy is neraby
- ZombieMesh: then why arent they all awake?
- Elec: and constantly pisses them off
- Elec: 23:42 - Elec: because some zombies found food
- 23:42 - Elec: others didn't?
- ZombieMesh: why wouldnt they constantly be at them
- Elec: because they are not cooridinating over a swarm intelligence?
- ZombieMesh: the lore says headcrabs are intelligent as dogs, and dogs can communicate
- Elec: impyling that intelligene is all you need to actually tell the others you found food
- ZombieMesh: No, but headcrabs would probably comminicate because they are weak as a singular entity
- Elec: sure, maybe? still don't see why a limit of 24h unsuspended activity is impossible
- ZombieMesh: Because headcrabs would die off as a threat super quick
- Elec: not really, no food avaiable to make the next 16 hours
- Elec: go to sleep
- Elec: wait till food is there again
- Elec: continue
- ZombieMesh: from a species standpoint, they would fall to narutal selection very quickly
- ZombieMesh: what if food never comes
- Elec: then their area is dead
- Elec: and they had no chance of survival anyway?
- ZombieMesh: Regular zombies move from dead areas
- ZombieMesh: well
- ZombieMesh: some
- Elec: implying that before the zombies infected the complete planet
- Elec: you didn't have more than enough food
- Elec: to cover a cross continent trip
- Elec: or that they had to make that trip in the first place
- Elec: because they got teleported all over the globe
- ZombieMesh: ??
- Elec: before almost all species on earth died and humanity got reduced by like 90%
- Elec: there was more than enough food
- Elec: that you could keep going until literally the city you are in and all neighbouring cities are empty
- ZombieMesh: Eating a bunch of humans wouldnt multiply your energy reserve. The difference between eating 10 humans in one day and eating 100 doesnt matter., because they'll eventually reach a cap where they get nothing from it
- Elec: great
- Elec: that means we can sustain even more headcrabs!
- Elec: your point?
- ZombieMesh: so zombies in a devasted area need to be able move from said area to get food
- ZombieMesh: but one day of energy is stupid
- Elec: then say how much days you want?
- Elec: instead of complaining?
- ZombieMesh: also why are headcrab zombies using up more energy than a regular
- ZombieMesh: im not complaining
- ZombieMesh: i made a statement, you defended it, and rebutted it
- Elec: yes you are, instead of going to me and simply asking to increase it to like a week
- Elec: stating you had a fear that the headcrab wasn't capable of finding its next target in 24 hours
- Elec: you came here and went
- Elec: "lore is meh"
- Elec: "this is shit"
- ZombieMesh: I didn't
- ZombieMesh: You asked
- Elec: which makes it actually even worse
- Elec: instead of working with me
- Elec: you remained silent
- ZombieMesh: ?
- ZombieMesh: You asked me personally if I got the post
- ZombieMesh: and I responded
- ZombieMesh: and then you asked why i made that response
- Elec: exactly
- Elec: 23:48 - Elec: yes you are, instead of going to me and simply asking to increase it to like a week
- 23:48 - Elec: stating you had a fear that the headcrab wasn't capable of finding its next target in 24 hours
- 23:48 - Elec: you came here and went
- 23:48 - Elec: "lore is meh"
- 23:49 - Elec: "this is shit"
- Elec: lore is meh
- ZombieMesh: No, you asked what i thought about the lore
- ZombieMesh: and i told you
- ZombieMesh: what i thought
- Elec: is the quickest way to psis somebody off
- ZombieMesh: and why i thought that way
- Elec: *starts hitting head on desk*
- ZombieMesh: I'm sorry if I upset you, but I believe this conversation is over if you think I am personally attacking you
- Elec: 23:32 - ZombieMesh: I'm happy that is exists, but the lore itself is kinda meh
- 23:32 - ZombieMesh: Needing to eat everyday is dumb. Humans dont even need to eat everyday, and a zombie isn't going to be using as much energy as humans
- ^ complaining
- "I have a problem with the 1 day limit on activity, I think the headcrabs could die before finding new pray"
- ^ constructively coopeerating
- Elec: and the second thing should happen right after reading it
- Elec: so that the lore can be improved
- ZombieMesh: I am sorry Elec, I am dont talking for now
- ZombieMesh: done*
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