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  1. [2013-08-07 18:45:11] <Clef> all right, guys
  2. [2013-08-07 18:45:19] <Clef> this is no longer about arguing over Djoric's article
  3. [2013-08-07 18:45:19] <Nusquam> Able has to come back to life.
  4. [2013-08-07 18:45:27] <Clef> this is now about doing a rewrite of SCP-105.
  5. [2013-08-07 18:45:29] <Clef> Let's begin.
  6. [2013-08-07 18:45:39] <Clef> SCP-105 is to be kept in a two-room cell furnished with whatever SCP-105 requests as long as such requests do not violate any standard SCP procedure. Subject is allowed to freely wander the facility, but is not allowed within one hundred meters of another SCP object for security reasons. Once per week, SCP-105 is allowed to leave the facility for one hour. During this period SCP-105 is to be accompanied by two plain-clothes agents.
  7. [2013-08-07 18:45:54] <Dmatix> Gonna have to get a raincheck on that. It's DOTA 2 time.
  8. [2013-08-07 18:45:55] <Clef> This needs to be fixed. We don't let SCPs wander around alone any more. Suggestions?
  9. [2013-08-07 18:45:56] <Nusquam> I think there's a neat angle that's never considered in the article.
  10. [2013-08-07 18:45:56] <Jekeled> Dmatix: It's the line that seperates the cultural North and South. Sorry for the confusion :P
  11. [2013-08-07 18:46:05] <Nusquam> Angle is maybe not the right word.
  12. [2013-08-07 18:46:22] <Dmatix> Heh. About time you explain history to me for once, Jekeled.
  13. [2013-08-07 18:46:34] <Jekeled> :3c
  14. [2013-08-07 18:46:53] <Nusquam> But the article never considers that photographs show things as they were, not as they are. Just kind of glosses over that by saying she can remotely observe things through still images.
  15. [2013-08-07 18:46:54] <Clef> **Special Containment Procedures:** SCP-105 is to be housed in a standard two-room cell, but is allowed free movement on-site (with the normal restrictions and caveats for
  16. [2013-08-07 18:46:55] <Clef> . . .
  17. [2013-08-07 18:46:57] <Clef> what?
  18. [2013-08-07 18:46:57] <Dmatix> How's that Semotrach tale going, by the way?
  19. [2013-08-07 18:47:01] |<-- Dexanote has left irc.synirc.net (Quit: brb3)
  20. [2013-08-07 18:47:01] <Silber> Yeah, it's cultural, not legal
  21. [2013-08-07 18:47:02] <Jekeled> Dmatix: I like history too; I just don't have a major to prove it. Or the systematic knowledge :P
  22. [2013-08-07 18:47:11] <Jekeled> Dmatix: 1/3 done, procrastinating on the other 2/3
  23. [2013-08-07 18:47:24] <Clef> Nus: I did consider that, and I have an idea on how to handle that.
  24. [2013-08-07 18:47:33] <Dmatix> Know that feeling all too well. If you need anymore help with it, just let me know.
  25. [2013-08-07 18:47:41] -->| Dexanote (Mibbit@synIRC-C30AF329.home.cgocable.net) has joined #site67
  26. [2013-08-07 18:47:46] <Nusquam> Maybe she was really /supposed/ to be in that asylum?
  27. [2013-08-07 18:47:48] <Clef> Namely, it's not all photographs and all cameras. It's only this one girl and one particular polaroid camera.
  28. [2013-08-07 18:48:15] <Jekeled> kk, thanks
  29. [2013-08-07 18:48:18] <Nusquam> I mean, if you can only ever see things as they were, and interact with what remains the same, I can see a pathos developing related to fear of change.
  30. [2013-08-07 18:48:22] <Nusquam> Or inability to accept it.
  31. [2013-08-07 18:48:54] <Clef> Nus: too complicated.
  32. [2013-08-07 18:49:00] <Nusquam> I'm not suggesting she be batshit crazy.
  33. [2013-08-07 18:49:04] <Clef> Look
  34. [2013-08-07 18:49:17] <Clef> Let's start by paring off the parts that are obviously artifacts of being written back in the day
  35. [2013-08-07 18:49:21] <Clef> before we start changing the core concept
  36. [2013-08-07 18:49:40] <Clef> this is part of my problem when people start proposing sweeping changes for older articles: a lot of the time, the issues are less with the core concept and more with side issues
  37. [2013-08-07 18:49:48] <Clef> like the fact that Iris is allowed to freely reign across the site
  38. [2013-08-07 18:49:55] <Clef> That's not something we do nowadays and could trigger a downvote
  39. [2013-08-07 18:49:56] <Nusquam> That definitely has to go.
  40. [2013-08-07 18:49:59] <Clef> so how do we fix that?
  41. [2013-08-07 18:50:07] <thedeadlymoose> Heh. *I* did that in an article and got an Echo upvote.
  42. [2013-08-07 18:50:09] <thedeadlymoose> It's not impossible.
  43. [2013-08-07 18:50:12] <thedeadlymoose> BUT.
  44. [2013-08-07 18:50:13] <thedeadlymoose> We can just remove it.
  45. [2013-08-07 18:50:20] <Dmatix> Pssh. I have more.
  46. [2013-08-07 18:50:38] <Clef> What I have so far: SCP-105 is to be housed in a standard two-room cell, but is allowed free movement on-site, with the normal restrictions and caveats for a . . .
  47. [2013-08-07 18:50:39] <Clef> . . .
  48. [2013-08-07 18:50:47] <Clef> I'm looking for a good descriptor for what Iris is
  49. [2013-08-07 18:50:49] <Clef> humanoid SCP/
  50. [2013-08-07 18:50:51] <Clef> ?
  51. [2013-08-07 18:50:58] <Clef> But that's not a phrase we use in-universe.
  52. [2013-08-07 18:51:03] <Clef> Unusual Personnel?
  53. [2013-08-07 18:51:08] <Nusquam> She's not personnel.
  54. [2013-08-07 18:51:22] <Nusquam> And I thought we wanted to get rid of her being allowed free movement on site.
  55. [2013-08-07 18:51:27] <Clef> I'd like to keep the idea that she was formerly a member of Omega-7 before it was disbanded.
  56. [2013-08-07 18:51:35] <Nusquam> That's it's own can of worms.
  57. [2013-08-07 18:51:43] <Clef> It's still in canon.
  58. [2013-08-07 18:51:48] <thedeadlymoose> Let's attempt it.
  59. [2013-08-07 18:51:53] <thedeadlymoose> There's no reason it can't be cut eventually.
  60. [2013-08-07 18:51:56] <thedeadlymoose> if we can't make it work
  61. [2013-08-07 18:51:57] <Echo> Why would you let her move around the facilityu
  62. [2013-08-07 18:51:58] <Nusquam> I'd suggest setting that aside and coming back to it once you have a decent core.
  63. [2013-08-07 18:52:03] <Clef> The idea that the Foundation once had a MTF that was made up of humanoid SCPs
  64. [2013-08-07 18:52:07] <Clef> The core is already decent, Nusquam
  65. [2013-08-07 18:52:09] <Nusquam> Is retarded.
  66. [2013-08-07 18:52:15] <Nusquam> That's what the idea is.
  67. [2013-08-07 18:52:18] <Clef> I'm saying we need to trim the rough edges.
  68. [2013-08-07 18:52:20] <Echo> This is like, exactly what you did with Able
  69. [2013-08-07 18:52:27] <Clef> Echo: more or less, yes.
  70. [2013-08-07 18:52:30] <Echo> You kept the most ludicrous elements possible
  71. [2013-08-07 18:52:38] <Clef> And Able's now holding pretty steady.
  72. [2013-08-07 18:52:41] <thedeadlymoose> Yup.
  73. [2013-08-07 18:52:47] <Silber> "restrictions of discharged members of Mobile Task Force Omega-7"?
  74. [2013-08-07 18:52:47] <Silber> Two birds.
  75. [2013-08-07 18:52:53] <Echo> Well, yeah, but it's still written like...
  76. [2013-08-07 18:52:58] <Djoric> http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1465
  77. [2013-08-07 18:52:59] <Djoric> THERE
  78. [2013-08-07 18:53:01] <Echo> Well, like the people dealing with it have some form of brain damage
  79. [2013-08-07 18:53:05] <Djoric> DONE
  80. [2013-08-07 18:53:10] <thedeadlymoose> Nus, Echo, you two are pretty much always a minority opinion on how 'retarded' old stuff is, yet it can work for the majority of people.
  81. [2013-08-07 18:53:17] <Echo> And can't come up with functional, working ideas.
  82. [2013-08-07 18:53:17] <Silber> Like a 90s Image comic?
  83. [2013-08-07 18:53:30] <Nusquam> That doesn't mean we're wrong, Moose.
  84. [2013-08-07 18:53:32] <Clef> you know what?
  85. [2013-08-07 18:53:34] <Clef> Fuck it
  86. [2013-08-07 18:53:37] <Clef> I'm doing this solo
  87. [2013-08-07 18:53:41] <thedeadlymoose> Of course not, but we shouldn't get derailed on 'this is retarded'
  88. [2013-08-07 18:53:42] <Nusquam> Godspeed.
  89. [2013-08-07 18:53:43] <Clef> Shouldn't have bothered asking you guys for help on this.
  90. [2013-08-07 18:53:52] <thedeadlymoose> :/
  91. [2013-08-07 18:53:52] <Nusquam> No, you shouldn't.
  92. [2013-08-07 18:53:59] <Nusquam> You are god-king of the Foundation.
  93. [2013-08-07 18:54:14] <Nusquam> We should be grateful to be graced with your presence.
  94. [2013-08-07 18:54:16] <Roget> Clef I don't think that's a very good idea, just because yer frustrated
  95. [2013-08-07 18:54:19] <Djoric> Who can clearly do no wrong
  96. [2013-08-07 18:54:30] <Echo> I'm just saying, when you're writing this sort of thing, it comes off as the people in-universe as being monumentally incompetent
  97. [2013-08-07 18:54:32] <Clef> then if you don't feel like answering my fucking questions, please don't interject.
  98. [2013-08-07 18:54:38] <Clef> Echo: I understand that entirely.
  99. [2013-08-07 18:54:46] <Echo> That's all I'm getting at.
  100. [2013-08-07 18:54:51] <Jekeled> Djoric: upvoted
  101. [2013-08-07 18:54:56] <Djoric> woop woop
  102. [2013-08-07 18:55:04] <Clef> On the other hand, I'm not here to fix the big issues with the articles as a whole.
  103. [2013-08-07 18:55:19] <Echo> Why not fix them, though
  104. [2013-08-07 18:55:22] <Clef> I'm here to trim the rough edges.
  105. [2013-08-07 18:55:28] <Silber> Isn't that the point of rewriting it?
  106. [2013-08-07 18:55:32] <Clef> Because, like I said. . . people seem to like the stupid.
  107. [2013-08-07 18:55:51] <Clef> I personally think that Superman is kinda dumb, but it still pissed me off when Man of Steel got him so monumentally wrong.
  108. [2013-08-07 18:55:56] <thedeadlymoose> You can keep stupid concepts and make them work within an article.
  109. [2013-08-07 18:55:57] <Echo> That's probably why it's so low-rated at the moment
  110. [2013-08-07 18:56:11] <thedeadlymoose> Omega-7 is a stupid concept. But 076 makes it work. There's no reason 105 can't too.
  111. [2013-08-07 18:56:18] <Echo> They loved it so much they downvoted it in an apoplectic fit of attempting to upvite it
  112. [2013-08-07 18:56:19] <Clef> Echo: Like I said. . . the problem isn't in the core.
  113. [2013-08-07 18:56:27] <Nusquam> Right.
  114. [2013-08-07 18:56:29] <Nusquam> It's not.
  115. [2013-08-07 18:56:30] <Clef> The problem is in all of the seriously sillier elements surrounding it.
  116. [2013-08-07 18:56:35] <Nusquam> Right.
  117. [2013-08-07 18:56:47] <Nusquam> So why keep the sillier elements like the O-7 membership.
  118. [2013-08-07 18:56:49] <Silber> Maybe the article was popular in spite of the stupid.
  119. [2013-08-07 18:57:06] <Clef> Because. . . SCP-076 still included O7 membership. ,. . and it's now rated in the mid hundreds.
  120. [2013-08-07 18:57:15] <Clef> So Omega 7 isn't the problem
  121. [2013-08-07 18:57:18] <thedeadlymoose> I like the O-7 membership, and I like O-7, so I'm going to continue as if it's going to stay in, personally speaking
  122. [2013-08-07 18:57:27] <Silber> Moose said earlier that we can't assume why people downvote; I assume that also applies for upvotes.
  123. [2013-08-07 18:57:29] <Clef> The problem is in the elements like giving her free reign over the site.
  124. [2013-08-07 18:57:33] <thedeadlymoose> We're on the free-roaming privileges, correct?
  125. [2013-08-07 18:57:36] <Clef> So yes
  126. [2013-08-07 18:57:42] <Clef> we are currently on free roaming privileges.
  127. [2013-08-07 18:57:50] <Clef> And I'm looking for the proper way to phrase this.
  128. [2013-08-07 18:57:52] <Dmatix> Clef: But in a way, isn't the core of the new 76 is the idea that O-7 was a huge, huge mistake?
  129. [2013-08-07 18:57:58] <Clef> Dmatix: yes
  130. [2013-08-07 18:58:05] <Clef> and the idea is that Iris was part of that huge mistake
  131. [2013-08-07 18:58:10] <Dmatix> And considering that, shouldn't 105 be treated a bit more harshly?
  132. [2013-08-07 18:58:14] <Clef> It's part of her PAST, not her present.
  133. [2013-08-07 18:58:17] <Wogglebug> Looking at it in-universe, for what reasons might the SCP be given free-roam privileges?
  134. [2013-08-07 18:58:18] <Dmatix> As in, no free roaming.
  135. [2013-08-07 18:58:21] <Clef> But the mistake was with other people, not with her.
  136. [2013-08-07 18:58:25] <Echo> Nothing, really
  137. [2013-08-07 18:58:28] <Clef> Here is my angle on Iris.
  138. [2013-08-07 18:58:34] <Clef> Omega 7 existed
  139. [2013-08-07 18:58:35] <Echo> Because there's no way to guarantee something's security
  140. [2013-08-07 18:58:38] <Clef> Iris and Able were members.
  141. [2013-08-07 18:58:42] <thedeadlymoose> Here's a draft.
  142. [2013-08-07 18:58:44] <thedeadlymoose> SCP-105 is implanted with a tracking device and is currently allowed Class 3 (restricted) free-roaming and socialization privileges with approved site personnel, granted based on continued good behavior and cooperation with Foundation personnel.
  143. [2013-08-07 18:58:47] <Echo> Or the ability to quickly relocate them in an emergency
  144. [2013-08-07 18:58:50] <Clef> Able, however, went ape. Omega 7 was disbanded.
  145. [2013-08-07 18:58:54] <thedeadlymoose> I stole the wording from one of my own articles, so feel free to change it.
  146. [2013-08-07 18:58:56] <Clef> Iris, however, didn't do anything wrong.
  147. [2013-08-07 18:59:18] <Dexanote> hrm.
  148. [2013-08-07 18:59:19] <Clef> So here is a person who could be an X-Man, but can't be because policy doesn't allow it.
  149. [2013-08-07 18:59:19] <Dexanote> 3
  150. [2013-08-07 18:59:20] <Dmatix> I'm just trying to think like an O5. I wouldn't want any part of that huge failure just around like that. I'd make my best to hide it.
  151. [2013-08-07 18:59:20] <thedeadlymoose> Maybe cut "free-roaming and"
  152. [2013-08-07 18:59:23] <Scanchores> asdf
  153. [2013-08-07 18:59:27] =-= YOU are now known as Scantron
  154. [2013-08-07 18:59:27] =-= User mode for Scantron is now +r
  155. [2013-08-07 18:59:40] <thedeadlymoose> Eh, I could see some of the O5s wanting to force mistakes to continue to be public.
  156. [2013-08-07 18:59:45] <thedeadlymoose> Hell, we see this dynamic with our own site. :P
  157. [2013-08-07 18:59:48] <Dexanote> Keep going, clef.
  158. [2013-08-07 19:00:11] <Silber> Heh
  159. [2013-08-07 19:00:52] <Dmatix> So use that, I say. Make O5 in-fighting a major focus.
  160. [2013-08-07 19:01:02] =-= Mode #site67 +o Dexanote by ChanServ
  161. [2013-08-07 19:01:06] <Dmatix> Have ever changing containment procedures that come from in-fighting.
  162. [2013-08-07 19:01:29] <Clef> **Special Containment Procedures:** SCP-105 is implanted with a tracking device and is currently allowed Class 3 (restricted) socialization privileges with approved site personnel, granted based on continued good behavior and cooperation with Foundation personnel. SCP-105's personal camera (designated SCP-105-B) is to remain in a locked safe-deposit box at Site 19's High Value Item Storage Facility. Standard positive-action defenses (ex
  163. [2013-08-07 19:01:29] <Clef> At no point are SCP-105 and SCP-105-B to be allowed to come into contact, without approval of a majority vote of the O5-council.
  164. [2013-08-07 19:01:39] <Dmatix> Poor woman getting harassed between almost free-roaming and sitting in a dungeon.
  165. [2013-08-07 19:02:18] <Dexanote> I like that, Clef. Gives a reasonable number of caveats for a technically mundane SCP.
  166. [2013-08-07 19:02:50] <thedeadlymoose> [17:00] Dmatix So use that, I say. Make O5 in-fighting a major focus. > I am more than okay with this, but it needs to be differentiated from 076, which does something similar
  167. [2013-08-07 19:03:00] <thedeadlymoose> Interesting
  168. [2013-08-07 19:03:12] * Scantron reads upscroll
  169. [2013-08-07 19:03:16] <Scantron> motherofgod.flac
  170. [2013-08-07 19:03:17] <thedeadlymoose> Normally I'd dislike the O5 Council being directly referenced, but with the O-7 angle, it could work
  171. [2013-08-07 19:03:32] <thedeadlymoose> Also
  172. [2013-08-07 19:03:35] <thedeadlymoose> "Standard positive-action defenses (ex"
  173. [2013-08-07 19:03:36] <thedeadlymoose> That cut off
  174. [2013-08-07 19:03:41] <Wogglebug> I fyou make it two parts of a whole, one organic and sapient and the other a camera, that could excuse treating the human portion slightly leniantly.
  175. [2013-08-07 19:03:44] <Echo> Yeah
  176. [2013-08-07 19:03:46] <Clef> Standard positive-action defenses (explosive, chemical, biological, and memetic) are to be in place at all times, according to standard operating procedure.
  177. [2013-08-07 19:03:48] <Echo> That shit makes literally no sense
  178. [2013-08-07 19:03:49] <Dmatix> You can easily do that. 76 is very dangerous, 105 isn't. Her containment procedures can be directly and rapidly affected by the O5 currently in favor.
  179. [2013-08-07 19:03:59] <Echo> What the fuck does that even mean
  180. [2013-08-07 19:04:10] <thedeadlymoose> Echo, no one knows what you're talking about
  181. [2013-08-07 19:04:12] <Echo> It's a series of words that someone put together because they thought they meant something together
  182. [2013-08-07 19:04:14] <thedeadlymoose> Please clarify.
  183. [2013-08-07 19:04:17] <Clef> Echo: I have no idea. It sounded good. So whatever.
  184. [2013-08-07 19:04:20] <Echo> > Standard positive-action defenses
  185. [2013-08-07 19:04:25] <Echo> That whole spiel
  186. [2013-08-07 19:04:32] <Dexanote> He's throwing out an example of what he wants to do Echo
  187. [2013-08-07 19:04:37] <Dexanote> Its not a finished draft yet
  188. [2013-08-07 19:04:38] <thedeadlymoose> That's irrelevant, though
  189. [2013-08-07 19:04:44] <--| Maddy has left #site67 (WOOSH)
  190. [2013-08-07 19:04:44] * Dexanote sighs, goes to take phonecall
  191. [2013-08-07 19:04:50] <thedeadlymoose> The Foundation CAN, in fact, have internal language that does not exist in real life
  192. [2013-08-07 19:04:54] <Silber> .g "standard positive-action defenses"
  193. [2013-08-07 19:04:55] <CROM> Silber: http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-297 -- SCP-297 - The SCP Foundation: "May 20, 2013 ... Standard positive-action defenses (explosive, chemical, biological, and memetic) are to be in place at all times, according to standard operating ..."
  194. [2013-08-07 19:04:57] <thedeadlymoose> And this IS, in face, 'realistic'
  195. [2013-08-07 19:05:01] <Silber> heh
  196. [2013-08-07 19:05:03] <thedeadlymoose> So, I say we keep standard positive-action defenses
  197. [2013-08-07 19:05:11] <thedeadlymoose> *face = fact
  198. [2013-08-07 19:05:15] <Clef> Whatever, moving on. Echo, if you can think of a better way to put, "If you're an unauthorized person trying to access this, you'll get blown up, poisoned, or infected with a deadly disease," feel free to say so.
  199. [2013-08-07 19:05:17] <Clef> Moving on.
  200. [2013-08-07 19:05:40] <Clef> **Description:** SCP-105 (formerly known as Iris █████), is a Caucasian female human. Records indicate that the subject was born in ████, making her 18 years old at the time of acquisition. Subject has blond hair and blue eyes, and at the time of the article, is 1.54 meters in height and 50kg in weight. Subject does not appear to have any out-of-the-ordinary physical characteristics and appears to be, for all intents a
  201. [2013-08-07 19:05:44] <Dmatix> thedeadlymoose: think of the physiological effects on Iris. She keeps getting moved from site to site, from containment to containment on the whims of the O5. There's no security, no stability.
  202. [2013-08-07 19:05:46] <Clef> Subject does not appear to have any out-of-the-ordinary physical characteristics and appears to be, for all intents and purposes, a normal human being in good health.
  203. [2013-08-07 19:05:54] <Dmatix> That alone can make for a real interesting read.
  204. [2013-08-07 19:07:10] <Silber> She can't settle into a containment cell long enough to make any friends there.
  205. [2013-08-07 19:08:11] <Clef> all right
  206. [2013-08-07 19:08:28] <Clef> anyone here a camera buff who can tell me about Polaroid cameras?
  207. [2013-08-07 19:08:29] <Dmatix> You joke, but there's a truth in that. If she's allowed some freedom in one site, but she's all locked up in another, that'll get to you.
  208. [2013-08-07 19:08:38] <Roget> Clef
  209. [2013-08-07 19:08:43] <Roget> what do you need to know
  210. [2013-08-07 19:08:53] <Dmatix> Even in prisons, stability is very, very important.
  211. [2013-08-07 19:08:55] * Wogglebug puts up the Kens symbol
  212. [2013-08-07 19:08:58] <Clef> Give me a Polaroid model camera suitable for a teenage to early twenties hipster
  213. [2013-08-07 19:09:09] <Scantron> I'd say find Dr_Kens and ask him.
  214. [2013-08-07 19:09:09] <Roget> Stand by
  215. [2013-08-07 19:09:14] <Wogglebug> Clef: Try the entirety of the internet.
  216. [2013-08-07 19:09:14] <Scantron> Or, Roget will do a thing
  217. [2013-08-07 19:09:21] <Clef> Woggle: I did
  218. [2013-08-07 19:09:24] <Wogglebug> lol
  219. [2013-08-07 19:09:25] <Clef> I got too much information
  220. [2013-08-07 19:09:27] <Clef> I have no idea
  221. [2013-08-07 19:09:59] <Dmatix> If you want to go Polaroid, you can play with that too.
  222. [2013-08-07 19:10:08] <Dmatix> It's a dying breed of cameras, after all.
  223. [2013-08-07 19:10:34] <Roget> OneStep 600
  224. [2013-08-07 19:10:49] <Roget> has the most distinctive shape and is the most well-known and widely used hipster model
  225. [2013-08-07 19:11:08] <Clef> date of manufacture?
  226. [2013-08-07 19:11:08] <Dmatix> That can be used in relation to her powers. I like an SCP that's like a leftover meal- no part goes to waste.
  227. [2013-08-07 19:11:12] <Silber> .gi Polaroid onestep 600
  228. [2013-08-07 19:11:13] <CROM> Silber: http://danfinnen.com/reviews/images/camera_images/onestep600-2.jpg
  229. [2013-08-07 19:11:32] |<-- Djoric has left irc.synirc.net (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212])
  230. [2013-08-07 19:11:36] <Clef> http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Polaroid_OneStep_600
  231. [2013-08-07 19:11:40] <thedeadlymoose> I actually really like the idea of using a Polaroid
  232. [2013-08-07 19:11:43] <thedeadlymoose> Do it
  233. [2013-08-07 19:11:49] <Roget> http://gyazo.com/53d320d62a5a2f3950fc0cf8ae365b99
  234. [2013-08-07 19:11:56] <Roget> http://gyazo.com/cf9055c3734469cf0e53dee050b0fe47
  235. [2013-08-07 19:11:58] <Roget> this'n
  236. [2013-08-07 19:12:28] <Dmatix> If you're really feeling brave, you can tie the decline of Polaroid directly to the skip's history.
  237. [2013-08-07 19:12:40] <thedeadlymoose> I also do like the idea of her getting moved around with inconsistent procedures
  238. [2013-08-07 19:12:44] <Clef> too silly, Dmatix
  239. [2013-08-07 19:13:07] <Dmatix> Very possibly, yes.
  240. [2013-08-07 19:13:35] <Dmatix> It's really the sort of SCP that can live on human drama. Those are rare.
  241. [2013-08-07 19:13:39] <Roget> http://gyazo.com/7e2519ac3984c4b46a4c714181f1ae6a
  242. [2013-08-07 19:13:47] <Roget> http://gyazo.com/6d468ab8489987314c6b585923d8c963
  243. [2013-08-07 19:13:50] <Roget> pictures look like this
  244. [2013-08-07 19:14:40] <Roget> http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Polaroid_OneStep_600
  245. [2013-08-07 19:14:43] <Roget> camerapedia entry
  246. [2013-08-07 19:14:47] * Roget likes polaroid >.>
  247. [2013-08-07 19:15:10] <Dmatix> Which is why I think some of the tech stuff can be skipped in favor of that. Well, not skipped, but glossed over.
  248. [2013-08-07 19:15:16] <Dexanote> because you're a 90s hipster roget
  249. [2013-08-07 19:15:27] <Roget> I aaaaaam
  250. [2013-08-07 19:16:02] <Clef> SCP-105-B is a Polaroid One Step 600 camera, manufactured in 1982. SCP-105-B does not appear to have any out-of-the-ordinary physical characteristics and appears to be, for all intents and purposes, a normal Polaroid camera, operating normally for all persons aside from SCP-105.
  251. [2013-08-07 19:16:19] <thedeadlymoose> Works for me
  252. [2013-08-07 19:16:25] <thedeadlymoose> hahaha I like polaroid too
  253. [2013-08-07 19:16:29] <thedeadlymoose> but not as much as roget
  254. [2013-08-07 19:16:35] <thedeadlymoose> because no one is as 90s hipster as roget
  255. [2013-08-07 19:16:35] <Roget> Clef: Also if you're going through on rewrite pls change the picture
  256. [2013-08-07 19:16:42] <Roget> the current picture is bad and stuff
  257. [2013-08-07 19:16:47] <Scantron> also not the right camera
  258. [2013-08-07 19:16:50] <thedeadlymoose> I'd love to see the picture changed as well
  259. [2013-08-07 19:16:51] <Dmatix> Thedeadlymoose: that means you like Nickback by proxy.
  260. [2013-08-07 19:16:55] <Silber> Are we writing the article or just getting the structure down?
  261. [2013-08-07 19:16:57] <Dmatix> You can't avoid the truth.
  262. [2013-08-07 19:17:23] <thedeadlymoose> Dmatix, wrong joke to make
  263. [2013-08-07 19:17:25] <thedeadlymoose> I don't into music
  264. [2013-08-07 19:17:34] <thedeadlymoose> I had to google Nickleback just now
  265. [2013-08-07 19:17:38] <Scantron> lol
  266. [2013-08-07 19:17:45] <thedeadlymoose> still not sure who they are tho I'm sure they made a song I've heard
  267. [2013-08-07 19:17:47] <Dmatix> Grr. Fine. Roget, that means that you're into Nickleback then.
  268. [2013-08-07 19:17:54] <Silber> Dmatix: unlike this photograph, looking at that joke did not make me laugh
  269. [2013-08-07 19:17:57] <Roget> Why
  270. [2013-08-07 19:18:08] <Scantron> Silber: Die.
  271. [2013-08-07 19:18:12] <Dmatix> Silber, have I told that I loved you today? Because I do.
  272. [2013-08-07 19:18:17] <Dmatix> So very much.
  273. [2013-08-07 19:18:28] <Dmatix> You...complete me.
  274. [2013-08-07 19:18:29] <Silber> Yeah, you did a little earlier.
  275. [2013-08-07 19:18:29] * Scantron ships silber x dmatic
  276. [2013-08-07 19:18:31] <thedeadlymoose> I was a kid in the 90s but I was also sheltered. :p
  277. [2013-08-07 19:18:32] * Scantron *dmatix
  278. [2013-08-07 19:18:33] <Silber> ?Silber
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  280. [2013-08-07 19:18:34] <CROM> Silber is the wind beneath my wings
  281. [2013-08-07 19:18:42] <Clef> Roget: I'm going to delete the photo for now until someone can find me a better one.
  282. [2013-08-07 19:18:42] <Scantron> ?Scantron
  283. [2013-08-07 19:18:44] <CROM> scantron turned into Yoric. Sad times had by all.
  284. [2013-08-07 19:18:48] <Dmatix> See, CROM agrees.
  285. [2013-08-07 19:18:49] <Clef> When SCP-105 is holds a photograph taken by SCP-105-B, the photograph changes from a still image to that of a real-time image of the location in question. SCP-105 is also able to "reach through" the photograph, and manipulate objects within reach of the original point at which the photograph was taken. Persons witnessing this manipulation report seeing a disembodied female hand (determined to be that of SCP-105) reaching out from an inv
  286. [2013-08-07 19:18:51] <Scantron> When did /that/ happen?
  287. [2013-08-07 19:18:53] <Clef> let me know if it cuts off
  288. [2013-08-07 19:18:59] <Scantron> reaching out from an inv
  289. [2013-08-07 19:18:59] <thedeadlymoose> "reaching out from an inv"
  290. [2013-08-07 19:19:08] <Clef> invisible portal and carrying out the actions indicated.
  291. [2013-08-07 19:19:10] <Roget> Clef since I own a copy of the camera you could just have a photo of SCP-105-B instead of Iris herself
  292. [2013-08-07 19:19:23] <Roget> i could getcha a pic
  293. [2013-08-07 19:19:29] <Scantron> Roget: Be extra careful to have good lighting and hold the camera steady
  294. [2013-08-07 19:19:30] <Clef> Roget: that could work.
  295. [2013-08-07 19:19:34] <thedeadlymoose> "When SCP-105 is holds " > cut "is"
  296. [2013-08-07 19:19:36] <Scantron> I noticed that problem with the other pics you took for articles
  297. [2013-08-07 19:19:43] <FlameShirt> The quotes on "reach through" irks me slightly. It works fine without them.
  298. [2013-08-07 19:19:45] <Clef> I could place a blank photo with an "image removed" type thing for her personal portrait.
  299. [2013-08-07 19:19:54] <Roget> Scantron I took all those pictures on one day on a whim
  300. [2013-08-07 19:19:57] <Clef> Flame: got it. Removing the quotes
  301. [2013-08-07 19:20:04] <FlameShirt> :>
  302. [2013-08-07 19:20:07] <Clef> SCP-105-B, and the photographs taken by said camera, have no unusual properties when used by any other person. SCP-105 likewise has no unusual abilities in when it comes to other cameras, or photographs taken by any other cameras (including cameras of the same make and model as SCP-105-B).
  303. [2013-08-07 19:20:15] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: A key point missing from the original article is -- what happens when the place in the photo is taken?
  304. [2013-08-07 19:20:25] <Clef> . . .
  305. [2013-08-07 19:20:30] <thedeadlymoose> Augh
  306. [2013-08-07 19:20:32] <Clef> . . . nothing?
  307. [2013-08-07 19:20:45] <thedeadlymoose> When the place in the photo has been altered since the photo was taken
  308. [2013-08-07 19:20:51] <Clef> real time image
  309. [2013-08-07 19:20:59] <thedeadlymoose> Ahhh, so it IS a real time image
  310. [2013-08-07 19:21:00] <Clef> the photo updates as soon as Iris picks it up.
  311. [2013-08-07 19:21:09] <thedeadlymoose> I misread that, sorry
  312. [2013-08-07 19:21:13] <Clef> "When SCP-105 is holds a photograph taken by SCP-105-B, the photograph changes from a still image to that of a real-time image of the location in question."
  313. [2013-08-07 19:21:14] <thedeadlymoose> My bad
  314. [2013-08-07 19:21:23] <Clef> that "real time image" bit was always part of the article, by the way
  315. [2013-08-07 19:21:41] <thedeadlymoose> Ah, I thought it had just appeared as one.
  316. [2013-08-07 19:21:46] <MisterFlames> What's up, gentles?
  317. [2013-08-07 19:21:55] <Wogglebug> Flames: Stuff
  318. [2013-08-07 19:22:00] <thedeadlymoose> Heyo Flames
  319. [2013-08-07 19:22:01] <thedeadlymoose> Rewriting 105
  320. [2013-08-07 19:22:17] <Djoric> I did it before it was cool
  321. [2013-08-07 19:23:02] <Wogglebug> lol
  322. [2013-08-07 19:23:54] <thedeadlymoose> XD
  323. [2013-08-07 19:24:23] <Clef> All right
  324. [2013-08-07 19:24:31] <Clef> Moving on to the circumstances of acquisition
  325. [2013-08-07 19:24:39] <Clef> or what the original article calls "Origin."
  326. [2013-08-07 19:24:53] <Clef> I like the idea that she was picked up after she witnessed her boyfriend's murder, but the paragraph is badly phrased.
  327. [2013-08-07 19:24:56] <Wogglebug> Iris was Cool all along.
  328. [2013-08-07 19:24:59] <Wogglebug> #canon
  329. [2013-08-07 19:25:04] <Clef> SCP-105 was brought to the Foundation's attention shortly after the murder of her boyfriend when she was sixteen years old. Subject claimed to have witnessed his death through a photograph of his room, prompting her to hurry to his side: unfortunately, this placed her at the scene of the crime, making her a suspect in the murder.
  330. [2013-08-07 19:25:04] <Djoric> Pffft
  331. [2013-08-07 19:25:12] <Djoric> iris don't know /shit/ bout being cool
  332. [2013-08-07 19:25:21] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: Not important, but I'd say keep the Site-17 reference (as in, she's located at 17). Common thread thru old articles with humanoids being kept there
  333. [2013-08-07 19:25:33] <thedeadlymoose> Also emphasizes the camera being at 19 instead
  334. [2013-08-07 19:25:42] <thedeadlymoose> Please for the love of god tell me I didn't miss that you already did that
  335. [2013-08-07 19:26:02] <Dmatix> You can still have her rooms being switched ever so often.
  336. [2013-08-07 19:26:20] <thedeadlymoose> Hmmm
  337. [2013-08-07 19:26:21] <Dmatix> Not because of any actual merit to it, but because of O5 politics.
  338. [2013-08-07 19:26:42] <thedeadlymoose> I... don't like that, completely. I wish she wasn't so Too Dumb To Live that she /told/ someone about her power. How to fix...
  339. [2013-08-07 19:26:54] <thedeadlymoose> (As in I don't completely like it)
  340. [2013-08-07 19:27:07] <thedeadlymoose> Hmmmm
  341. [2013-08-07 19:27:15] <thedeadlymoose> Maybe she broke down and told someone eventually?
  342. [2013-08-07 19:27:16] <Wogglebug> Maybe she did stuff with things.
  343. [2013-08-07 19:27:17] <Dmatix> Easy fix. Someone caught her redhanded.
  344. [2013-08-07 19:27:20] <Wogglebug> And got caught.
  345. [2013-08-07 19:28:01] <--| Echo has left #site67
  346. [2013-08-07 19:28:06] === Echo <turnoffth@frakkin.music> ``http://www.mibbit.com''
  347. [2013-08-07 19:28:06] === Echo is a registered nick
  348. [2013-08-07 19:28:06] === Echo: attached to kermit.tx.us.synirc.net ``Hi Ho! Kermit the Frog here!''
  349. [2013-08-07 19:28:06] --- End of WHOIS information for Echo.
  350. [2013-08-07 19:28:07] <FlameShirt> Just saying, a guy just posted something that he said was a work in progress to the main site. So, there's that. Something to keep an eye on maybe. http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1827
  351. [2013-08-07 19:28:41] <Dmatix> Well, better than most of those already, as I didn't go blind.
  352. [2013-08-07 19:29:13] <Clef> SCP-105 was brought to the Foundation's attention shortly after the murder of her boyfriend when she was sixteen years old. Subject originally claimed to have been on the phone with the victim at the time of his murder, prompting her to hurry to his side: however, telephone records did not correspond to her story, making her a prime suspect in the murder.
  353. [2013-08-07 19:29:15] <FlameShirt> It has some kinda neat pictures.
  354. [2013-08-07 19:30:29] <Clef> Subject then informed her lawyer that she had, in fact, witnessed the murder through a photograph she had taken with her boyfriend several days prior: the attorney in question disregarded the story and recommended that the subject plead guilty. Subject refused to do so and was subsequently found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to death.
  355. [2013-08-07 19:31:51] <Clef> Subject was originally recruited from death row as part of the D-Class Acquisition program, but was transferred to Special Containment Procedures pending confirmation of her abilities. Foundation Personnel retrieved SCP-105-B from her home (replacing it with an identical model), and returned it to her. Further testing confirmed subject's unusual abilities, and she was moved to Site-17, designated SCP-105.
  356. [2013-08-07 19:32:08] <Wogglebug> Sandboxes yo.
  357. [2013-08-07 19:32:17] <Clef> sorry
  358. [2013-08-07 19:32:27] <Wogglebug> Nah, I just mean it might be easier.
  359. [2013-08-07 19:32:30] <Clef> Moving on.
  360. [2013-08-07 19:32:32] <Wogglebug> I don't mind or anything.
  361. [2013-08-07 19:32:36] <Clef> better idea
  362. [2013-08-07 19:32:41] <Clef> updating SCP-105 in real time.
  363. [2013-08-07 19:32:44] <Clef> the article is now updated.
  364. [2013-08-07 19:32:46] =-= YOU are now known as Scandinner
  365. [2013-08-07 19:32:47] =-= User mode for Scandinner is now +r
  366. [2013-08-07 19:32:47] <Wogglebug> Huh?
  367. [2013-08-07 19:32:49] <Wogglebug> Oh.
  368. [2013-08-07 19:32:51] <Wogglebug> Uhhh.
  369. [2013-08-07 19:32:53] <Wogglebug> Okaaaay.
  370. [2013-08-07 19:32:59] <Clef> all right, moving on.
  371. [2013-08-07 19:33:08] <Clef> I think that the log is largely fine, but will make some small changes.
  372. [2013-08-07 19:33:10] <thedeadlymoose> reading
  373. [2013-08-07 19:33:46] <Doctopus> echo
  374. [2013-08-07 19:33:51] <Doctopus> thanks for frozen synapse
  375. [2013-08-07 19:34:23] <Doctopus> im havin' a lot of fun
  376. [2013-08-07 19:34:26] <Djoric> Moose
  377. [2013-08-07 19:34:28] <Wogglebug> Whasat, Docto?
  378. [2013-08-07 19:34:35] <thedeadlymoose> Also: Does she have to be 16? 18 almost makes it feel like more of a risk that she'd be in serious deep shit (people are less inclined to think that a 16 year old girl would kill someone as opposed to a legal adult). But this isn't a mandatory change
  379. [2013-08-07 19:34:35] <Djoric> The dictionary definition of rewrite is as follows
  380. [2013-08-07 19:34:38] <Djoric> "to write in a different form or manner"
  381. [2013-08-07 19:34:49] <Djoric> That is all
  382. [2013-08-07 19:35:08] <Clef> I'll remove the age part, then.
  383. [2013-08-07 19:35:13] <thedeadlymoose> Also, there is no way she'd be on death row.
  384. [2013-08-07 19:35:15] <thedeadlymoose> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_juvenile_offenders_executed_in_the_United_States
  385. [2013-08-07 19:35:21] <Wogglebug> Hey, Djoric, let's not carry on with it, ya know?
  386. [2013-08-07 19:35:23] <Clef> Djoric: please also look up "pedantic."
  387. [2013-08-07 19:35:35] <Dmatix> Yeah. Getting to death row takes years, even at 18 she would never be there.
  388. [2013-08-07 19:35:36] <Wogglebug> Clef, don't encourage it :P
  389. [2013-08-07 19:35:53] <Clef> all right, then.
  390. [2013-08-07 19:35:56] <Dmatix> Especially if she was a minor.
  391. [2013-08-07 19:36:02] <Clef> Let's just remove her age at the time of acquisition, then.,
  392. [2013-08-07 19:36:18] <thedeadlymoose> burns, echo left
  393. [2013-08-07 19:36:25] <Doctopus> f u
  394. [2013-08-07 19:36:26] <thedeadlymoose> okay now I've caught up
  395. [2013-08-07 19:36:48] <thedeadlymoose> yeah removing age would be good.
  396. [2013-08-07 19:37:00] <thedeadlymoose> dunno about death row but I don't immediately have a better solution
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  398. [2013-08-07 19:37:20] <thedeadlymoose> unless we just say she was caught in a D-class sweep for violent offenders
  399. [2013-08-07 19:37:28] <thedeadlymoose> sweep of prisons
  400. [2013-08-07 19:39:34] <Clef> updated the log, so it's now her entrance interview for O-7
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  402. [2013-08-07 19:40:34] <thedeadlymoose> refreshing
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  404. [2013-08-07 19:42:23] =-= YOU are now known as Scantron
  405. [2013-08-07 19:42:26] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: " is a Caucasian female human" > If you're going to get as stickler-specific as female human, then just say "a female human of European descent".
  406. [2013-08-07 19:42:32] <thedeadlymoose> Otherwise it looks inconsistent
  407. [2013-08-07 19:42:45] <thedeadlymoose> with the level of expected technical accuracy that's implied
  408. [2013-08-07 19:42:48] <Clef> Caucasian Female in good health, then
  409. [2013-08-07 19:43:20] <thedeadlymoose> ugh, Caucasian is just such an unscientific word
  410. [2013-08-07 19:43:27] <thedeadlymoose> but a minority of medical journals still use it
  411. [2013-08-07 19:43:31] <thedeadlymoose> so :P
  412. [2013-08-07 19:43:37] <Wogglebug> What about people from the area of the Caucus mountains.
  413. [2013-08-07 19:43:42] <Clef> psh
  414. [2013-08-07 19:43:43] <Clef> fine
  415. [2013-08-07 19:43:44] <Clef> Female honkeuy
  416. [2013-08-07 19:43:47] <thedeadlymoose> don't capitalize female though
  417. [2013-08-07 19:43:50] <thedeadlymoose> *honkey
  418. [2013-08-07 19:43:51] <Wogglebug> Heheh
  419. [2013-08-07 19:43:52] <thedeadlymoose> :D :D :D
  420. [2013-08-07 19:43:59] <Wogglebug> *honky
  421. [2013-08-07 19:44:13] <thedeadlymoose> both spellings are acceptable
  422. [2013-08-07 19:44:14] <thedeadlymoose> ;)
  423. [2013-08-07 19:44:23] <Dexanote> goddamn
  424. [2013-08-07 19:44:24] <Wogglebug> Racial insults are always spelled as simply as possible.
  425. [2013-08-07 19:44:34] <Dmatix> Yep. Like Wogglebug.
  426. [2013-08-07 19:44:39] <Wogglebug> :D
  427. [2013-08-07 19:44:39] <Dmatix> That's a slur, right?
  428. [2013-08-07 19:44:41] <Dexanote> SCP
  429. [2013-08-07 19:44:42] <Wogglebug> wait
  430. [2013-08-07 19:44:44] <Wogglebug> wut
  431. [2013-08-07 19:44:48] <Dexanote> Street Containment Procedures
  432. [2013-08-07 19:45:02] <thedeadlymoose> :|
  433. [2013-08-07 19:45:16] <thedeadlymoose> Clef, you have a sentence structure issue
  434. [2013-08-07 19:45:18] <Wogglebug> (The word wogg actually is a slur though)
  435. [2013-08-07 19:45:21] <thedeadlymoose> using colons when a period should be used
  436. [2013-08-07 19:45:24] <Dexanote> "SCP-105 is a white honkey bitch with a skinny ass who fucks with pictures."
  437. [2013-08-07 19:45:26] <Wogglebug> (They're just not related)
  438. [2013-08-07 19:45:33] =-= Wogglebug was booted from #site67 by thedeadlymoose (GET OUT YOU RACIST)
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  441. [2013-08-07 19:45:44] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: Just use periods.
  442. [2013-08-07 19:45:46] <Wogglebug> I SAID THEY'RE NOT RELATED
  443. [2013-08-07 19:46:09] <Wogglebug> A Wogglebug is a nonsense word for a sandcrab, that actually refers to an invented insect.
  444. [2013-08-07 19:46:24] * Silber reads the upscroll
  445. [2013-08-07 19:46:37] <Silber> (@thedeadlymoose) ugh, Caucasian is just such an unscientific word
  446. [2013-08-07 19:46:42] <thedeadlymoose> Also,... you're going to get people complaining about calling SCP-105 the "subject", as it's not the subject of an experiment, though you can take that as you will (or just let Aelanna rephrase it, she'd be happy to)
  447. [2013-08-07 19:46:52] <Silber> (@thedeadlymoose) but a minority of medical journals still use it
  448. [2013-08-07 19:46:53] <Silber> Moose...
  449. [2013-08-07 19:46:57] <thedeadlymoose> err, you can take that as you will since you are using it in a grammatically correct manner
  450. [2013-08-07 19:47:00] <Silber> what's your problem with minorities?
  451. [2013-08-07 19:47:05] <Wogglebug> ohsnap
  452. [2013-08-07 19:47:10] <Wogglebug> silber callin' yo out
  453. [2013-08-07 19:47:13] <thedeadlymoose> Probably that they're in the minority
  454. [2013-08-07 19:47:15] * thedeadlymoose the worst
  455. [2013-08-07 19:47:30] =-= thedeadlymoose was booted from #site67 by Wogglebug (/RACISM/)
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  458. [2013-08-07 19:47:42] <Dmatix> Silber wants to be the minority, he don't need your authority.
  459. [2013-08-07 19:47:43] <Jekeled> moose is the most racist staff member
  460. [2013-08-07 19:47:44] <Wogglebug> Man autojoin is the worst.
  461. [2013-08-07 19:47:47] <Jekeled> Moose for cistaff 2013
  462. [2013-08-07 19:47:50] <Wogglebug> Confirmed.
  463. [2013-08-07 19:47:59] <thedeadlymoose> XD
  464. [2013-08-07 19:48:13] <Jekeled> 2cis
  465. [2013-08-07 19:48:19] <Jekeled> 4me
  466. [2013-08-07 19:48:25] <Silber> I wanna be masochistic. I wanna be a statistic.
  467. [2013-08-07 19:48:31] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: "Dr. █████: Good. First question, when did you become aware of your abilities?" > If you want to get further away from the Foundation seeing this as superpowers, you can use "your anomalous traits" instead
  468. [2013-08-07 19:48:35] <thedeadlymoose> Implies scientific distance
  469. [2013-08-07 19:48:37] <thedeadlymoose> Not mandatory tho
  470. [2013-08-07 19:48:42] <Scantron> y'all're weird motherfuckers
  471. [2013-08-07 19:48:46] <Clef> Mmmm
  472. [2013-08-07 19:48:47] <Clef> nah
  473. [2013-08-07 19:49:01] <Clef> Because this guy's supposed to be recruiting her to Omega 7, I'm okay with a slight X-Men vibe
  474. [2013-08-07 19:49:06] <Clef> from him at least.
  475. [2013-08-07 19:49:07] <Wogglebug> Maybe make him less comfortable with the word abilities?
  476. [2013-08-07 19:49:08] <thedeadlymoose> "Dr. █████: (Interrupting) Please, only answer the questions and nothing else." > I just don't see why he interrupted her
  477. [2013-08-07 19:49:14] <thedeadlymoose> for the lulz?
  478. [2013-08-07 19:49:24] <thedeadlymoose> who cares if they get excess information
  479. [2013-08-07 19:49:42] <thedeadlymoose> Unless they're worried about keeping clinical distance or something? In which case, they should be more specific
  480. [2013-08-07 19:49:47] <thedeadlymoose> they being the doctor
  481. [2013-08-07 19:50:35] <FlameShirt> As it is now, it reads like he's just being a jerk for no reason, which is the opposite of what you want to do for someone you're trying to get information out of.
  482. [2013-08-07 19:50:46] <thedeadlymoose> Addendum 3 seems mildly thin. If we're gonna keep the O7 thing (which I would strongly prefer), I'd like to hear some interesting detail
  483. [2013-08-07 19:51:05] <thedeadlymoose> We don't need the 'beat Able in a fight' thing because that's either embarrassing enough to cut or embarrassing enough to leave unsaid
  484. [2013-08-07 19:51:13] <Clef> working on it, Moose.
  485. [2013-08-07 19:51:17] <thedeadlymoose> okay cool, sorry
  486. [2013-08-07 19:51:24] * thedeadlymoose jumps every gun :P
  487. [2013-08-07 19:54:39] * Dexanote brings Moose to canada
  488. [2013-08-07 19:54:44] * Dexanote strictly controls the guns
  489. [2013-08-07 19:54:50] <Clef> look at it now.
  490. [2013-08-07 19:57:32] <FlameShirt> Clef: Again, with your quotes on "Team Iris'", which is a hilarious name in and of itself. Might wanna change it to something that doesn't immediately make a person think of twilight fans :P
  491. [2013-08-07 19:57:43] <thedeadlymoose> "When SCP-105 is holds "
  492. [2013-08-07 19:57:50] * thedeadlymoose fixes
  493. [2013-08-07 19:58:30] <thedeadlymoose> Clef, do you mind if I change the 'her's to 'it's? That's generally standard these days
  494. [2013-08-07 19:58:35] <Clef> sure
  495. [2013-08-07 19:59:18] <Wogglebug> Wait, her's?
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  498. [2013-08-07 19:59:54] <thedeadlymoose> as in, making her X years old to making it X years old
  499. [2013-08-07 20:01:28] <thedeadlymoose> Do you mind if I change the uses of "Subject" to "SCP-105"? People complain about that on grounds of accuracy. Can leave otherwise.
  500. [2013-08-07 20:01:47] <Clef> sure, why not
  501. [2013-08-07 20:01:52] <Clef> try not to overdo it
  502. [2013-08-07 20:01:57] <Clef> go back and forth between one and the other
  503. [2013-08-07 20:02:08] <Scantron> Hey, question. Foundation needs to store some non-dangerous audio recordings for an extended period of time. Do they upload it to the site's mainframe/intranet (if so, pls specify), or put them on a separate storage device in a locker (if so, what type?), or both?
  504. [2013-08-07 20:02:26] <Clef> storage locker
  505. [2013-08-07 20:02:52] <thedeadlymoose> hmmm
  506. [2013-08-07 20:03:25] <Scantron> Internet says that magnetic tape lasts 10-30 years, but it's expensive. Flash drives would probably the easiest to handle, but would need replacing every so often.
  507. [2013-08-07 20:03:40] <Jekeled> Scantron: Store it on vinyl
  508. [2013-08-07 20:03:53] <Jekeled> Scantron: The one method that never goes out of style
  509. [2013-08-07 20:04:24] <Scantron> Hm... that sounds fun. I could make the SCP so that they get it on vinyl originally.
  510. [2013-08-07 20:04:28] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: You used SCP-105 where you meant 105-B, fixing unless you object
  511. [2013-08-07 20:04:49] <Scantron> So they could store the vinyl originals and unspecified "digital copies" in a locker.
  512. [2013-08-07 20:05:14] <thedeadlymoose> errrrr
  513. [2013-08-07 20:05:17] <thedeadlymoose> sorry, got confused, nvm
  514. [2013-08-07 20:05:24] <Clef> sure, go ahead and fix and proofread
  515. [2013-08-07 20:05:34] <thedeadlymoose> rather, I saw the wrong error
  516. [2013-08-07 20:05:44] <thedeadlymoose> actually, it was a subject/verb agreement, fix'd
  517. [2013-08-07 20:08:57] <thedeadlymoose> ugh calling her 'it' doesn't work while also calling 105-B 'it'. I'll leave it as 'her' and 'she' for now unless I think of a solution
  518. [2013-08-07 20:10:24] <thedeadlymoose> okay updated with proofreading
  519. [2013-08-07 20:10:32] <thedeadlymoose> Woggle or another better editor should also take a look
  520. [2013-08-07 20:10:39] <Wogglebug> Hmm?
  521. [2013-08-07 20:10:43] <thedeadlymoose> Clef, more critique, though: The death row thing isn't even remotely believable
  522. [2013-08-07 20:10:56] <Wogglebug> Maybe Iris is like eighty.
  523. [2013-08-07 20:11:08] <thedeadlymoose> Nope, because
  524. [2013-08-07 20:11:16] <thedeadlymoose> "SCP-105 was brought to the Foundation's attention shortly after the murder of her boyfriend. "
  525. [2013-08-07 20:11:18] <thedeadlymoose> Shortly, eh?
  526. [2013-08-07 20:11:22] <thedeadlymoose> Yet... on death row?
  527. [2013-08-07 20:11:41] <thedeadlymoose> And even without 'shortly'... again, yeah, she should be /really/ old
  528. [2013-08-07 20:11:44] <Wogglebug> Maybe she lived in, like, 1970s Russia.
  529. [2013-08-07 20:11:50] <Wogglebug> And it's just outdated.
  530. [2013-08-07 20:12:15] <Roget> not Russia. Czechslovakia!
  531. [2013-08-07 20:12:17] <thedeadlymoose> And honestly, that she got all the way to death row stretches belief. Why wouldn't they try and insanity defense if it was THAT bad? Hell, base it on her supposed powers with photographs
  532. [2013-08-07 20:12:23] <Wogglebug> (Turns out she's not a hipster, just happened to own a camera)
  533. [2013-08-07 20:12:32] <Clef> moose: she'd have to agree to the defense.
  534. [2013-08-07 20:12:41] <Wogglebug> Who /wouldn't/
  535. [2013-08-07 20:12:42] <Clef> And she knows she's not crazy or a murderer.
  536. [2013-08-07 20:13:02] <Clef> My intent was to show a bit of stubbornness.
  537. [2013-08-07 20:13:07] <Wogglebug> She should be able to figure whether an asylum or death via bears is better
  538. [2013-08-07 20:13:15] * Wogglebug is still running with the Soviet thing
  539. [2013-08-07 20:13:25] * Wogglebug doesn't understand Russia
  540. [2013-08-07 20:14:00] <thedeadlymoose> Are you... sure that you have to agree to the insanity defense?
  541. [2013-08-07 20:14:09] <thedeadlymoose> That... doesn't make a ton of sense. But if you know better, than disregard
  542. [2013-08-07 20:14:13] <thedeadlymoose> I am no expert here
  543. [2013-08-07 20:14:31] * Wogglebug heads over to the googlemobile
  544. [2013-08-07 20:14:33] <thedeadlymoose> I do, however, know that it stretches the imagination to the breaking point to put her on death row.
  545. [2013-08-07 20:14:40] <thedeadlymoose> Prison for life, sure
  546. [2013-08-07 20:14:56] <Nusquam> If the psychological state of the defendant is in question, I'm fairly sure a court can appoint a psychologist to examine them to determine if they're fit to stand trial.
  547. [2013-08-07 20:15:03] <Heiden> if you’re found competent to participate in your own defense, then yeah, your lawyers would have to have you on board with your own defense
  548. [2013-08-07 20:15:08] <thedeadlymoose> Here's what it takes to get a woman on death row
  549. [2013-08-07 20:15:11] <thedeadlymoose> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ind-woman-death-row-age-16-freed-article-1.1374564
  550. [2013-08-07 20:15:35] =-= YOU are now known as Scanchores
  551. [2013-08-07 20:15:35] =-= User mode for Scanchores is now +r
  552. [2013-08-07 20:16:29] <thedeadlymoose> Note that she's black, and there were accomplices, and clear premeditation, and everyone knows who she is in the areas in question. Poor candidate for recruitment.
  553. [2013-08-07 20:17:09] <thedeadlymoose> Even if you made her non-white, it still wouldn't be believable for that reason
  554. [2013-08-07 20:17:37] <thedeadlymoose> I mean, it /could/ be made believable, I'm sure, but it's just... in there
  555. [2013-08-07 20:17:54] <Wogglebug> Also, she stabbed a bible school lady.
  556. [2013-08-07 20:17:55] <thedeadlymoose> Foundation scientists would be able to look her up in a newspaper with ease because she's so out of the ordinary
  557. [2013-08-07 20:18:01] <Wogglebug> An old lady.
  558. [2013-08-07 20:18:02] <thedeadlymoose> Yeah, I was gonna say that too, Woggle
  559. [2013-08-07 20:18:12] <thedeadlymoose> This was an apparent murder of a boyfriend
  560. [2013-08-07 20:19:08] <thedeadlymoose> This is partly just a holdover from the D-Class Always Come From Death Row bullshit that no one acknowledges as real anymore.
  561. [2013-08-07 20:20:29] <Silber> D-Class are the people who fail the Pepsi Challenge.
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  563. [2013-08-07 20:21:24] <thedeadlymoose> afk
  564. [2013-08-07 20:23:11] =-= YOU are now known as Scantron
  565. [2013-08-07 20:23:12] =-= User mode for Scantron is now +r
  566. [2013-08-07 20:23:51] <Wogglebug> Hey guys, is it currently against the rules to downvote because you want something -ARC'd?
  567. [2013-08-07 20:25:43] <Silber> Isn't downvoting for any reason other than.article quality against the rules?
  568. [2013-08-07 20:26:10] <Wogglebug> I would think so, but I'm not sure whether it would be interpreted, perceived, or enforced as such.
  569. [2013-08-07 20:27:04] <Silber> Well, malicious downvoting is very hard to enforce.
  570. [2013-08-07 20:27:32] <Silber> Because usually you can't tell why someone voted.
  571. [2013-08-07 20:27:39] <Nusquam> A vote is a reflection of opinion about the contents of the article.
  572. [2013-08-07 20:28:01] <Wogglebug> Hmm. There's images in this forum thing. Not sure if that's an issue or not. http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-680212/idea-for-a-new-group-of-interest
  573. [2013-08-07 20:29:19] <Scantron> I'll edit them into collapsibles.
  574. [2013-08-07 20:29:37] <Wogglebug> Mkay
  575. [2013-08-07 20:30:05] <Nusquam> If someone said they voted because they wanted something -ARCed, an argument could be made that they're expressing an opinion about the article.
  576. [2013-08-07 20:30:07] <murphy_slaw> Wogglebug: is there a specific article in question with regard to ... malicious -ARCing?
  577. [2013-08-07 20:30:13] <Wogglebug> Oh, yeah.
  578. [2013-08-07 20:30:14] <Nusquam> That they don't like it and want it gone.
  579. [2013-08-07 20:30:30] <Nusquam> Or some permutation of that.
  580. [2013-08-07 20:30:40] <murphy_slaw> yeah, a downvote means "i don't think this should be on the mainlist"
  581. [2013-08-07 20:30:41] <Wogglebug> http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-76679/scp-105#post-1823978
  582. [2013-08-07 20:30:47] <Nusquam> So while a pretty useless comment to make, I don't think it's technically against the rules.
  583. [2013-08-07 20:31:03] <murphy_slaw> what happens to it after it's off the mainlist is up to staff for the most part so...
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  586. [2013-08-07 20:31:40] <Silber> Nusquam, what if your opinion on the article is that it's bad because its content was written by someone you don't like?
  587. [2013-08-07 20:31:50] <Wogglebug> lol
  588. [2013-08-07 20:31:58] <Nusquam> Then your opinion isn't actually about the content, is it?
  589. [2013-08-07 20:32:16] <Wogglebug> Nusq: They said they switched from up to down just for it to be ARC'd sooner.
  590. [2013-08-07 20:32:48] <murphy_slaw> wait, no
  591. [2013-08-07 20:32:54] <murphy_slaw> those are two different comments
  592. [2013-08-07 20:33:05] <Wogglebug> Huh?
  593. [2013-08-07 20:33:15] <murphy_slaw> grittz said they changed their vote from up to down so it would get rewritten
  594. [2013-08-07 20:33:26] <Wogglebug> Oh, yeah, woops.
  595. [2013-08-07 20:33:33] <Wogglebug> But it's the same idea.
  596. [2013-08-07 20:33:34] <murphy_slaw> drsevere replied and said he'd rather have it ARCed than rewritten
  597. [2013-08-07 20:33:57] * Wogglebug can't read
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  599. [2013-08-07 20:34:28] <Wogglebug> KENS WE NEED YOUR HIPSTER CAMERAS, STAT
  600. [2013-08-07 20:34:38] =-= Tox|Laptop is now known as Tox|Laptop|GONEDED
  601. [2013-08-07 20:35:03] <Jekeled> KENS WE NEED YOUR VINYL COLLECTION
  602. [2013-08-07 20:35:24] <Dr_Kens> Fuck you I don't have any hipster cameras.
  603. [2013-08-07 20:35:32] <Dr_Kens> All of my film cameras are work cameras.
  604. [2013-08-07 20:35:46] <Wogglebug> Fffffffffffffff
  605. [2013-08-07 20:35:47] <Dr_Kens> Suck my cock.
  606. [2013-08-07 20:35:51] <Nusquam> I don't think the vote's out of line.
  607. [2013-08-07 20:36:42] <Wogglebug> Mkay. Just wondering what people thought.
  608. [2013-08-07 20:36:47] <Wogglebug> Not too concerned myself.
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  610. [2013-08-07 20:42:56] <thedeadlymoose> Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with downvoting so it can get rewritten
  611. [2013-08-07 20:43:03] <thedeadlymoose> ...After he's gone
  612. [2013-08-07 20:43:13] <Dr_Kens> So can someone film me in on 105?
  613. [2013-08-07 20:43:15] <Dr_Kens> ...
  614. [2013-08-07 20:43:16] <Dr_Kens> *fill
  615. [2013-08-07 20:43:18] <Dr_Kens> ffs
  616. [2013-08-07 20:43:29] <Clef> it dropped to negatives then went back to +1
  617. [2013-08-07 20:43:31] <Clef> I did a rewrite
  618. [2013-08-07 20:43:33] <Clef> I want feedback
  619. [2013-08-07 20:43:48] <Dr_Kens> Ah, copy.
  620. [2013-08-07 20:46:10] <PeppersGhost> I'm not done reading it yet, but you jump between "it" and "her" in a couple of places and there are a few unnecessary commas.
  621. [2013-08-07 20:46:47] <FlameShirt> Team Iris is a super silly name. :P
  622. [2013-08-07 20:47:48] <thedeadlymoose> it doesn't bother me
  623. [2013-08-07 20:47:51] <thedeadlymoose> PeppersGhost
  624. [2013-08-07 20:47:53] <thedeadlymoose> That is either
  625. [2013-08-07 20:47:56] <thedeadlymoose> (A) my fault
  626. [2013-08-07 20:48:03] <thedeadlymoose> or (B) referring to 105-B, the camera, an 'it'
  627. [2013-08-07 20:48:20] <thedeadlymoose> there was one use of it that appeared to be referring to 105 & 105-B, I left it in there
  628. [2013-08-07 20:48:48] <thedeadlymoose> specifically, I changed everything to 'it' from 'her' then changed it back on realizing that Acquisition was unreadable.
  629. [2013-08-07 20:49:05] <thedeadlymoose> (because both 105 & 105-B are referred to as 'it')
  630. [2013-08-07 20:50:05] <thedeadlymoose> Also, Clef, some positives I didn't mention. I like that you blackboxed Dantessen's name. I like that 105 had her own sub-task force, never made sense to pair her with Able
  631. [2013-08-07 20:50:30] <thedeadlymoose> And I like it overall
  632. [2013-08-07 20:50:55] <thedeadlymoose> I also like the rethought escape attempt
  633. [2013-08-07 20:52:01] <PeppersGhost> Okay, finished it. I think it was very tastefully done.
  634. [2013-08-07 20:52:24] <PeppersGhost> This was the problematic bit:
  635. [2013-08-07 20:52:25] <PeppersGhost> "SCP-105 claimed to have been on the phone with the victim at the time of his murder, prompting her to hurry to his side: however, telephone records did not correspond to her story, making it a prime suspect in the murder"
  636. [2013-08-07 20:52:41] <PeppersGhost> should be "making her a prime suspect"
  637. [2013-08-07 20:53:15] <PeppersGhost> I'd be glad to edit it myself as long as everyone else is done poking it for the time being
  638. [2013-08-07 20:54:36] <thedeadlymoose> do it
  639. [2013-08-07 20:54:40] <thedeadlymoose> that one was my fault
  640. [2013-08-07 20:54:49] <thedeadlymoose> ugh
  641. [2013-08-07 20:54:58] <thedeadlymoose> > proofreader introduces new errors
  642. [2013-08-07 20:55:02] <thedeadlymoose> ._.
  643. [2013-08-07 20:55:04] <Clef> heh
  644. [2013-08-07 20:55:35] <thedeadlymoose> Still hate the death row thing, but obviously it didn't kill the previous version for me so it's not going to kill this one
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