Goodbye, Simon

schwem00 - Today at 7:01 PM
So what exactly did Connor do that has you angry right now? Because cutting off the guy that's been your best friend since gradeschool is a bit extreme

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:01 PM
Well he hasn't really talked to me much at all for 5 months

schwem00 - Today at 7:01 PM
The solution to that is not to force him to not talk to you ever again

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:02 PM
Well I don't want to talk to him, he can talk to me and I'll respond, but I don't want to be involved with him anymore

schwem00 - Today at 7:02 PM
Why

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:03 PM
Well the aforementioned 5 month silence, him never really being open with me, and him upsetting Meg in Europe set me over the edge of the "I'm done with this" meter

schwem00 - Today at 7:04 PM
Has Connor ever really been one to start conversations and be open? I don't think he is. And also, he made a joke about him and Isabella that he couldn't have known would turn into what it did

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:06 PM
I know he can be oblivious but I'm upset nonetheless

schwem00 - Today at 7:06 PM
That's not even him being oblivious

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:06 PM
And I don't want to talk to him

schwem00 - Today at 7:06 PM
None of us could've predicted that
'us' being Connor, Isabella, me, or Colin

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:07 PM
If you had done it I wouldn't have been as upset, because unlike Connor you try
And you talk

schwem00 - Today at 7:08 PM
I really don't message you that much more than Connor does

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:08 PM
But we are capable of having an actual conversation

schwem00 - Today at 7:09 PM
Also, most of our talking is in random VC's in T0X and just on T0X in generally, and you don't talk much on there anymore. So it's not entirely Connor's fault either. Actually, I'd say using T0X less is a major reason for it.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:10 PM
I mean, I can't be on it every hour of every day anymore

schwem00 - Today at 7:10 PM
Nobody can

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:10 PM
I've had both family stuff and stuff with Megan as well as work stuffs recently

schwem00 - Today at 7:10 PM
Everyone's been busy

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:11 PM
Yeah

schwem00 - Today at 7:11 PM
I'm having 3 hour robotics meetins almost every day. Isabella has a job too, and Connor. Connor has Isabella and his other friends.
Point is
Everyone's busy. But we all have free time. You can't blame Connor for not talking to you very often when you never use T0X anymore. That's one of our major ways to communicate. Outside of actual conversation in school, it is the best way to communicate, and for you 2 it probably is the best way anyway, since you only have art together and seperate lunches

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:14 PM
I don't like Connor Luke, I don't have an interest in reviving the friendship

schwem00 - Today at 7:15 PM
You've been best friends since gradeschool. Almost nothing has changed.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:16 PM
Our mentalities, situations, locations and interests have changed

schwem00 - Today at 7:17 PM
Locations have barely changed, don't blame that. Mentalities haven't changed at all. Connor is a bit less interested in gaming than he was, that's it.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:17 PM
I just don't want to be with him anymore
I doubt anyone can change my mind, I've made my choice

schwem00 - Today at 7:19 PM
You don't want to be with him because what? That doesn't just happen. All of us were best friends. You even cut of Isabella even though she didn't do anything.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:21 PM
She's been complaining for months

schwem00 - Today at 7:22 PM
Because you stopped talking to us. Which is exactly the reason you complain about Connor.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:22 PM
I didn't stop talking
I played with you guys, had real conversations
I didn't avoid you
Because when you message me I actually respond(edited)
Instead of ignoring you

schwem00 - Today at 7:27 PM
I know you don't avoid or ignore me

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:28 PM
And on top of that, I don't like it but I do hold some grudges
And I don't like being lied to for 4 months

schwem00 - Today at 7:29 PM
But still. Don't throw away friends like that. Give them both another chance. Connor doesn't answer your messages, and you rarely talk to him or anyone else on T0X. That's about equal. He accidentally caused Meg to get angry, but it wasn't at all something he could predict would happen, so you can't be angry at him for it.
And it was one month. I don't like it either.
But it's over.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:29 PM
*3 months
Sorry I miscounted

schwem00 - Today at 7:30 PM
it was one month

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:30 PM
July-september
3 months

schwem00 - Today at 7:30 PM
They weren't dating until August(edited)

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:30 PM
O I was told July
schwem00 - Today at 7:31 PM
No, it was always August

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:31 PM
Ah, regardless I dislike liars

schwem00 - Today at 7:31 PM
Everyone lies
Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:32 PM
Luke, I admire your passion and I can tell you care for both them and I, but I feel this is best for me, Isabella and Connor

schwem00 - Today at 7:34 PM
It clearly isn't. You mostly stopped to them both on your own a while ago, and recently decided to go all the way as well as making it permanent all because Connor made a joke that was misinterpreted. This isn't fair to them. They care about you. Don't do this.
This isn't you
You don't overreact and cut people out of your life over something that insignificant

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:35 PM
It is me, I don't cut people out over insignificant things, I cut people off when they hurt me

schwem00 - Today at 7:39 PM
You and me and Connor have all been best friends since gradeschool, and Isabella joined that group in grade 9. In less than a year and a half, we're gonna graduate and go our seperate directions and most of our group of school friends will never see eachother. We'll all be less in contact because we're going to seperate schools. None of this petty bullshit matters. We have a year and a half left to all be best friends before we split up and become memories and maybe talk on T0X sometimes. You seem to have cut yourself out of T0X mostly too, so not even that. Forget this and give them another chance so you don't waste the last 1.5 years of what everyone says will be the best 4 years of your life because you think Connor should've reached out more when you stopped talking to us and because he offended your girlfriend because of a misinterpreted joke.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:40 PM
I've been thinking about ending the friendship between Connor, Isabella and I for a while Luke, I've made my choice

schwem00 - Today at 7:51 PM
You said you dislike liars, Simon, so don't be a hypocrite and tell me what's really been going on. This isn't you.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:52 PM
I'm not being a hypocrite, I'm being honest

schwem00 - Today at 7:54 PM
That's bullshit. We've all had our times where we were angry at one another before, over things considerably more substantial than this, and nobody excommunicated eachother. You stopped talking to both of them first and now you're saying you won't talk to either of them because Connor didn't try to message you often after you stopped using T0X.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:55 PM
I genuinely don't like Connor and Isabella annoys me

schwem00 - Today at 7:56 PM
You suddenly dislike the guy that's been your best friend for years? Over what? And I know Isabella has been kinda rude lately but she felt like you were snubbing both of them by never talking anymore.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:56 PM
Yeah sure Connor and I had been friends for a while, but it was flawed with no substance from the start

schwem00 - Today at 7:57 PM
Flawed with no substance?

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:58 PM
The only thing ever talked about was memes
That's nothing to me

schwem00 - Today at 7:58 PM
Remember in grade 6, near the beginning, you told me that you felt like you had no friends? You really trusted me and told me a lot, and that basically started our friendship because I made sure to include you a lot more in everything

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 7:59 PM
You're the best friend I've ever had luke...

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 8:04 PM
But I don't want them to be my friends

schwem00 - Today at 8:10 PM
When I left for that half year in grade 7, I thought it was going to be permanent. We all thought it was going to be permanent. You know what Connor decided to do on his own shortly before my last day? He started talking to you even when I wasn't around to bring him with me. He gave you a chance, and he absolutely didn't have too. He had all sorts of friends from being kind of a sports jock, he would've been comfortable staying with them. But he felt bad because at the time, you only hung out with me, and not really much of anyone else. You have no idea how happy I was when I came back and you two were both good friends. He made the choice to stick with you and give you a chance even though he only knew you as the annoying kid that hung out with me a lot. Now, you're working backwards. After all of everything that's happened since then, you're cutting people out. You started by not talking to anyone on T0X anymore. Now you're trying to cut out the guy that's been with us from the beginning. The other one to give you a chance when we all thought I was leaving permanently. You're shortening that list back down to just me again. I don't include Megan in that because she's your girlfriend, which is a bit different, but that's besides the point. Remember that day that I mentioned when you came up to me and basically sparked our friendship? At the rate your going, you are quickly approaching the reverse to that. Approaching what it was like before. Think about that. Think about how we've all grown as friends and made eachother better people. Think about how Connor gave you a chance when he didn't have too. Finally, think about how you're quickly reversing everything we've done since that day in grade 6.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 8:12 PM
You've taught me a lot Luke, but I do feel that this is in their and my best interests, and I'm not cutting anyone else off, just those two
I understand that he didn't have to show interest back then, but the interest has dried up

schwem00 - Today at 8:15 PM
That isn't how that works. You can't just stop talking to 2 people in a group of friends and expect it to be just that. You've turned yourself into the outlier here, and you can only put more distance between us while that's true. You can't stop halfway down this slope of cutting people off and losing friends when you're talking about a group like us. You can slow it, but in the end it's all or nothing. We were too close for it to be anything other than that.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 8:16 PM
I'm sorry Luke, I've made my decision. I can't be with them anymore

schwem00 - Today at 8:19 PM
I don't know you anymore

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 8:19 PM
I'm sorry

schwem00 - Today at 8:21 PM
I expect this means you'll be leaving T0X then. There's nothing left for you there except for people you've cut out of your life. Goodbye.
Are you going to make me kick you myself? You aren't part of our community anymore. You took yourself out of it.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 8:26 PM
I'll just go..

schwem00 - Today at 8:27 PM
You aren't a bad person. You and only you have the ability to revive all the friendships you destroyed. It isn't too late. But I won't have you in T0X while you act the way you are towards my good friends.

Günther Pleasureman - Today at 8:28 PM
I understand