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- P (24)>who are you?
- P :24:moth
- P :24:who are you
- P (24)>What's your alias?
- P :24:i'm not aliased
- P :24:do you have any idea if when submitting yr phone number to the bot/site if it could be encrypted
- P :24:your idea is great but idk how accessible the database of phone numbers would be once they're in the bot
- P (24)>It would have to be incrypted
- P :24:yeah, i'm wondering if it could be encrypted
- P (24)>Definately it would be as secure as we could possible making it
- P (24)>make it*
- P (24)>We are completely rebuilding the TW website, so security is one of my number one concerns.
- (this is when i realized he'd posted this to me in wark's thread:
- Hmmm, who is Moth? Why is someone that's played TW for 2 weeks giving an opinion? Everyone else, I respect your opinion as veteran TW members. If you have any suggestions, please present them and we'll see what we can do to accomodate.
- -24)
- C 1:sweater> rofl 24 is such a pussy
- C 1:sweater> deleted his own post
- C 1:moth> too late i replied to it
- P (24)>The cool thing about the money events, is people will COME BACK to play.
- P (24)>We can also advertise on the internet, that you can win money by playing this game.
- P (24)>It's a great advertisment tool
- P (24)>people will come in, and then end up playing because it's fun
- P :24:they will "come back to play" and then leave once it's done
- P :24:that's the issue
- P (24)>It's not really an issue
- P :24:you have to think about the kind of people money incentives appeal to
- P :24:how is that not an issue?
- >>>>>> P (24)>People already get on for the game, then leave.
- P :24:they'll show up for 30 minutes to try to win a tournament and leave
- P :24:that's not improving zone activity
- P (24)>That's how it is already, and if this has the same results, then nothing has changed. <<<<
- P :24:except for a huge waste of money
- P (24)>But when people get online and talk to their friends they've had for years
- P (24)>they come back to chat it up again
- P :24:once again, think about the kind of people money inceptives appeal to
- P :24:someone who'd come back just to win $25
- P (24)>oh, you mean everyone?
- P :24:no, i don't
- P (24)>The cash events were a big success last TWL.
- P :24:they clearly don't appeal to everyone since the only people who've posted in regards to them have said they're stupid
- P (24)>We already appeal to 25-40 year olds, I want to appeal to a younger crowd.
- P (24)>because we have 20-40 year old people already here
- P (24)>duh, they don't care about a few dollars
- P (24)>I make more than that in a day and a half
- P (24)>I don't care about the money, but some people do.
- P :24:the 'younger crowd' aren't going to be players who can actually win the prizes since the older players are, uh, old
- P :24:do you not see the huge catch 22 in your logic
- P (24)>I know that
- >>>>>>P (24)>I know new players have 0 chance of winning
- P :24:then how on earth is it going to appeal to them
- P (24)>They don't know that <<<<<<<<<<<<<
- P :24:it's not hard to figure out that people have been playing this game for 10+ years
- P (24)>and it'll get them to DOWNLOAD the game, with the promise of money
- P :24:especially since this game looks like it's been around for 10+ years
- P (24)>We aren't going to advertise "Hey download our client and you can win money (by the way you'll be playing vs 10 year veterans"
- P (24)>It will be more like "Play Continuum, win money"
- P :24:they're going to realize that once they play for 15 mintes
- P (24)>Obviously something cleaner than that
- P :24:the learning curve in this game is really fucking steep, for one
- P :24:and for two this game isn't exactly welcoming to new players
- P (24)>Doesn't matter, they'll have already downloaded the client
- P :24:look at what you posted to me
- P :24:"your opinion is worthless because you haven't been here long"
- P (24)>I deleted it
- P :24:too late, you said it and i quoted it
- P (24)>oh okay rofl
- P :24:so even you as a moderator has a shit attitude towards new players
- P :24:and 'downloading the client' doesn't mean they're going to OPEN the client and play the game
- P (24)>sure they will
- P (24)>you'll see
- P :24:it's just as easy to uninstall/ignore the client as it is to have it on their computer
- P :24:are you delusional? look at this game
- >>>>>>>>>>>P (24)>nah, if you've talked to anyone in this zone, which you probably haven't.
- P :24:there's a reason why there's hardly any fresh blood
- P (24)>because you just trash trash trash talk
- P :24:the game is a 2-d spaceship shooter on pc
- P (24)>no vision
- P (24)>what a silly little girl <<<<<<<<<<<<<
- P :24:'YOUNGER PEOPLE' play xbox 360
- P (24)>exactly :)
- P :24:and like graphics and like gameplay
- P (24)>You can't win money on xbox 360
- P (24)>this is also free
- P (24)>xbox 360 isn't
- P :24:rofl actually you can and even if they couldn't
- P :24:it's not like they'd have a chance winning here
- P :24:12 yr old playing this game for a week vs ease
- P (24)>Maybe we'll have ways they can
- P :24:wonder who's going to win!
- >>>>>>>> P (24)>if you're really a newbie, which you aren't, you wouldn't know who ease is <<<<<<<
- P :24:on top of that you're ignoring what i said about how money is going to bring out the worst in people
- P :24:ease is on my fucking squad
- P :24:i've been here since the beginning of february
- P (24)>It's not that much money
- P :24:it doesn't have to be
- P :24:last weekend ease and turban got ddosed
- P :24:so that they'd lagout and not be able to play
- P (24)>It'll bring out the compedativeness
- P :24:over $25
- >>>>>>P (24)>ddosed?
- P :24:it'll bring out competitivity, sure, but it'll also bring out the worst
- P :24:yes, ddosed
- P :24:they were flooded with packets by other players
- P (24)>I don't know what ddosed means.
- P :24:ok to be ddosed
- P :24:means that your ip is being flooded with traffic via botnet or even cmd prompt
- P :24:by other people
- P (24)>how could they get their IP?
- P :24:there's an infinite amount of ways
- P (24)>not from the client though
- P :24:you can get it by talking to them on aim, msn
- P :24:you can get it via forums
- P (24)>of course that
- P (24)>not from here though
- P :24:you can get it via anyone with staff powers
- P (24)>not anyone
- P (24)>smod+ <<<<<<<<<<<<
- P (24)>What zone are you from?
- P :24:by the way the fact that you're interpreting all of this as 'trashtalking from a silly little girl' speaks volumes
- P :24:i am not from a different zone
- P :24:i started playing tw a few weeks ago
- P :24:i am friends with someone who plays this game irl
- P (24)>paul?
- P :24:close! paul's my boy
- P :24:that's irrelevant, though
- P (24)>funny, paul and I used to fight alot, now we're friends
- P (24)>you remind me of him
- P :24:the bottom line is i'm making valid points and you're dismissing them as 'trashtalk from a little girl' because you can't combat them
- P :24:paul and i are a lot alike
- P (24)>You're making points I've already thought of and came to the conclusion the good outweighs the bad.
- P :24:???????
- P (24)>If you weren't so agressive about it, I wouldn't have been so defensive about it.
- P (24)>I apologize about that.
- P :24:aggressive? the thread asked for opinions and i gave them
- P (24)>You pretty much attacked Major for no reason, calling him retarded
- P (24)>He doesn't know who you are, and you being a 2 week player, shouldn't know who he is
- P :24:the way he handled announcing the time changes was pathetic
- P :24:no one knew what was going on, including staff members who were caps
- (this is when he turned it into just attacking me and trying to prove that i'm aliased rofl)
- >>>>>>P :24:and me being a 2 week player has nothing to do with who i know and who i don't know
- P (24)>Sure it does.
- P :24:no, it really doesn't
- P :24:given the fact that i started playing this game because of an irl friend who's played thsi game for years and years and years
- P (24)>aka, you're the friend you're talking about most likely.
- P :24:try again
- P :24:ask paul, i'm not aliased
- P :24:ask any of the several people who've aliaschecked me
- P (24)>most players that play 2 weeks don't even know other arenas exist outside of TW.
- P (24)>lol alias check please
- P (24)>just get a new nic and reset your uip
- P (24)>your ip*
- P :24:most new players don't have anyone to walk them through the entire game
- P (24)>omg, i'm a new person
- P :24:i've watched ph play for a long time
- P (24)>sure they do, we have the newbie identifier program now
- P :24:and i finally downloaded it for myself a few weeks ago
- P :24:and for the record
- P (24)>weird, I was told you were from another zone
- P :24:if you reset your ip address
- P (24)>funny how your stories don't match
- P :24:it doesn't reset your machine id
- P (24)>i just said
- P (24)>get a new NIC
- P :24:whoever told you i was from another zone obviously doesn't know me
- P (24)>apparently, that's what paul said
- P (24)>I didn't hear it directly from him though
- P :24:rofl show me logs=
- P :24:exactly
- P :24:he didn't say that because that isn't true
- P :24:you probably heard it from some retard who also is convinced i'm aliased
- P (24)>I did hear it from someone else
- P (24)>That's what I just said, lol you sure don't listen.
- P :24:you just tried to insinuate that my story didn't match pauls ergo i am lying about not being aliased
- P :24:when paul never fucking said that <<<<
- goes back to trying to corner me into admitting i'm aliased:
- P (24)>Also, the part about replacing the NIC, which has the Machine ID on it...
- P (24)>you skipped right over that part
- P (24)>and continued talking
- P :24:getting a new machine id would require effort that i don't think anyone in their right mind would go through for this game
- P :24:changing your ip takes 30 seconds if it's dynamic
- P (24)>eh?
- P (24)>seriously, replacing a nic takes 30 seconds
- P :24:rofl bullshit
- P (24)>so that's 1 minute to be a new player
- P :24:that is complete horseshit
- P (24)>your machine ID is on your NIC
- P (24)>it's also called a physical ID
- P :24:i don't know why you're trying to say that replacing a box's nic would take approx '30 seconds'
- P (24)>?
- P (24)>of course it would
- P (24)>you slide openn the side
- P :24:you'd have to open up the fucking box
- P (24)>remove the NIC (usually has a little hand-nut)
- P (24)>and then bam, put in a new one
- P (24)>takes no time at all
- P (24)>and these days, they completely setup themselves
- P (24)>no need to install drivers or anything like that
- P :24:opening up the box itself is something that most people would be extremely hesitant to do
- P (24)>pretty sure anyone in this game
- P :24:rofl bullshit
- P (24)>could easily replace it
- P :24:r u kidding me
- P :24:you get help calls about people who think their washing machine causes lag
- P (24)>Have you ever done that before?
- P :24:opened up my box?
- P (24)>Pretty sure that was a joke
- P (24)>Anyways, what other people can/cannot do is of no concern.
- P :24:it clearly is, since you're very concerned with my identity
- P (24)>I'm saying, right now, It would take 1-2 minutes for me to be a "new player"
- P (24)>I think that YOU could replace a NIC fairly easily.
- P :24:a "new player" with a suspiciously close ip address to 24
- P (24)>Regardless of what other retards can't do.
- P :24:why do you think -I- could replace a nic fairly easily
- P (24)>Because you seem to know a lot about it.
- P :24:i'm just not a retard, 24
- P (24)>You knew about a machine ID, and IP address, and NIC.
- P :24:because i am not a retard
- P (24)>As long as you're not on a laptop
- P (24)>it's easy
- P (24)>with any desktop PC
- P :24:you didn't even know what ddosing was but you're under the impression 'anyone in this game' could open up their box and replace their nic
- P (24)>a lot of boxes just slide right open
- P :24:in order to ban evade or become a new player
- P (24)>I've just never heard of that term.
- P :24:that doesn't make people any more comfortable with fucking around with the interior of it
- P (24)>It's ignorance
- P :24:ddosing is a relatively common term lmfao
- P (24)>That's nice; like I said, it's ignorance.
- P (24)>I've never heard of it.
- P :24:so you think that the rest of this game is uh lacking enough ignorance to know how to recreate their identity via dynamic ip and machine id
- P :24:while you yourself don't know what a fucking denial of service attack is
- P (24)>I'm pretty sure most could.
- C 1:moth> i'm going to pastebin all of these logs once i'm through with this retard
- C 1:moth> you have to read this shit
- C 1:moth> really
- P :24:then you're pretty oblivious to the average intelligence of people on the internet as a whole
- P (24)>Since most here are adults. We all had to install our 56k's when they came out.
- P :24:most here are adults who only play this game and don't do much on the internet outside of it
- P (24)>no doubt, I don't play any other games than this.
- P :24:so why would you assume they'd have computer knowledge
- P :24:you're ridiculous
- P (24)>you turned this from you to them
- P (24)>regardless if they have knowledge of it or not
- P (24)>you obviously do
- P :24:this conversation shouldn't have been about me in the first place
- P (24)>and with ph as your "friend"
- P :24:you're accusing me of being aliased for the sole fact that i'm not retarded
- P (24)>it's very apparent you would know how to get around all of that.
- P :24:i know ph irl and have been friends with him irl for years
- P (24)>He your boyfriend?
- P :24:no, he isn't
- P :24:not sure how that's relevant, again
- P (24)>I was just wondering.
- P :24:bottom line is if i did what you're saying you could do 'in a minute flat'
- P :24:my ip would still show up as the same isp
- P :24:the digits would barely vary
- P (24)>true
- P (24)>so you are neighbors
- P :24:no, we are not neighbors
- P (24)>you just said you're irl friends
- P (24)>why wouldn't ou have the same ISP?
- P (24)>you*
- P :24:so all of your irl friends are neighbors?
- P :24:are you kidding?
- P (24)>What are you talking about?
- P (24)>I'm saying you could use the excuse "we are neighbors"
- P :24:you would have the same isp because if you just unplugged your router until it assigned you a new ip
- P :24:your isp wouldn't change and your ip would barely change
- P (24)>your Internet service Provider
- P (24)>could be the same as your friends
- P (24)>so it doesn't matter
- P :24:"we are neighbors" is a retardedly transparent excuse
- P (24)>you've already said yourue irl firends
- P (24)>doesn't matter, if you live in the same city
- P :24:same as saying "my brother spammed nigger in pub it wasn't me"
- P (24)>most likely you have the same isp
- P :24:we don't
- P :24:ask someone to check both of us
- P (24)>I'm bored now
- P (24)>this was actually fun
- P (24)>pretty witty woman
- P (24)>cya around, I have to drive 5 hours now :/
- P (24)>pc
- P :24:fairly retarded condescending jackass
- P :24:have fun
- P (24)>I get that alot
- P (24)>o/
- P :24:suk a dik
- P (24)>Isn't that what I say to you?
- P (24)>Good girl!
- P :24:pretty sure that's something you've never said to a woman off the internet
- P :24:suk a dik
- what an infuriatingly retarded human being
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