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  1. Question to discuss:
  2. what can we do to prevent bullying.?
  3.  
  4. Stranger: yes
  5.  
  6. You: Talk about it.
  7.  
  8. You: Have leveled heads, reach consensus.
  9.  
  10. Stranger: Why talk about it
  11.  
  12. You: Because talking works?
  13.  
  14. Stranger: NO
  15.  
  16. You: Yep.
  17.  
  18. Stranger: It doesn't
  19.  
  20. Stranger: It's only in the movie
  21.  
  22. You: I'm using words right now to assert my opinion.
  23.  
  24. Stranger: s
  25.  
  26. You: Big scurry grimmar.
  27.  
  28. Stranger: Well and bullies are using fists
  29.  
  30. Stranger: do they understand words
  31.  
  32. Stranger: no
  33.  
  34. Stranger: they don't get any messages
  35.  
  36. You: Then let them use fists. They'll feel like shit when everyone else stares at them. Negative reward, no more negative action, lest they become a masochist.
  37.  
  38. Stranger: No
  39.  
  40. You: Then they aren't bullies, they're psychopaths.
  41.  
  42. You: They don't hear words when beating someone up?
  43.  
  44. Stranger: The only way to avoid bullying is to avoid bullies
  45.  
  46. Stranger: first of all
  47.  
  48. Stranger: why the fuck are there bullies in your school or whatever already
  49.  
  50. You: Because people have problems.
  51.  
  52. You: And they're most likely not close to middle school. Children, they throw tantrums when things just don't go 'right'. They're not adults, they aren't me or you. They can't magically know what to do when something arises, they act however they can. Whatever feels appropriate.
  53.  
  54. You: Or, they throw Tan Drums.
  55.  
  56. Stranger: Aren't there schools without bullies
  57.  
  58. You: Yes.
  59.  
  60. Stranger: because there are planty
  61.  
  62. Stranger: plenty
  63.  
  64. You: It's called when you oust the bully such that they don't feel like being a bully anymore.
  65.  
  66. No fists needed.
  67.  
  68. Stranger: you know what
  69.  
  70. You: You'll understand later, maybe.
  71.  
  72. Stranger: there's one thing that keep away bullies
  73.  
  74. Stranger: and it is humiliation
  75.  
  76. You: But it's your right to have your voice.
  77.  
  78. You: I'm not Big Brother.
  79.  
  80. Stranger: am i big brother
  81.  
  82. Stranger: stupids people learn by experiences
  83.  
  84. You: I don't know.
  85.  
  86. You want to beat the shit out of people with no Fathers or something, and throw the rest in a burning pit for all of eternity.
  87.  
  88. You don't need to beat people up to make them know what an experience is like. Yeah, immersion helps, but Billy won't be able to be a person again if Billy gets a chair to the back of the head because Billy is a big meanie.
  89.  
  90. You: Physical wounds heal, but how do you treat mental ones?
  91.  
  92. You: It would eat at you.
  93.  
  94. You: That's how you change people.
  95.  
  96. Stranger: you don't get it
  97.  
  98. You: I do get it. You're not listening to me, and I guess that's fine. You don't dump someone in Hydrochloric Acid dyed red; that will just scar the person and make them have more issues. You can make them uncomfortable, and if all they seek is attention/socialization, they'll change. Or not.
  99.  
  100. Stranger: It is humiliation
  101.  
  102. Stranger: Not by fists
  103.  
  104. Stranger: but by words
  105.  
  106. You: That's what I'm saying.
  107.  
  108. Stranger: No
  109.  
  110. Stranger: It's not by talking to professors or anyone that will help you
  111.  
  112. You: "Fuck you, go die in a hole?"
  113.  
  114. Stranger: No
  115.  
  116. You: "That's not cool?"
  117.  
  118. Stranger: No
  119.  
  120. Stranger: I think that
  121.  
  122. Stranger: people that get bullied
  123.  
  124. Stranger: are stupids with low IQ
  125.  
  126. Stranger: People that can't defend themselves
  127.  
  128. Stranger: are stupids
  129.  
  130. Stranger: you can't expect everyone to help you everytime
  131.  
  132. You: A lot of bullies don't have low IQ. A lot of people that get bullied don't have low IQ. In no way does not being able to disarm someone who's harassing you make you "dumb". Hey, the guy with a gun is pointing it at an 8 year old.
  133.  
  134. The 8 year old should try to beat him up.
  135.  
  136. If they don't know better, how do you expect them to learn? Teach them.
  137.  
  138. You: You know how to walk because someone taught you.
  139.  
  140. Stranger: LOL no
  141.  
  142. You: Imagine being born, and not being taught how to walk.
  143.  
  144. How do you walk?
  145.  
  146. Stranger: It's a cultural matter
  147.  
  148. Stranger: You know there was an experiment
  149.  
  150. You: Forget the culture. It's an abstract point.
  151.  
  152. Stranger: WHAT
  153.  
  154. Stranger: CULTURE IS AN ABSTRACT POINT
  155.  
  156. Stranger: Are you kidding me
  157.  
  158. Stranger: Have you ever studied sciences
  159.  
  160. You: Don't pull a straw man. I said my point didn't have anything to do with culture.
  161.  
  162. You: I didn't give a prelude that lead to a Nuclear Family.
  163.  
  164. You: Hypothetical situation.
  165.  
  166. You: Only context is the concept of learning a motor function.
  167.  
  168. Stranger: Yeah
  169.  
  170. Stranger: and im telling you that the learning motor function
  171.  
  172. Stranger: is cultural
  173.  
  174. You: Which is irrelevant when considering the example. Also, I have to disagree that the specific brain function alone is responsible for smooth jazz and The American Anthem.
  175.  
  176. You: That model I presented with the baby learning to walk vs not learning to walk is completely isolated.
  177.  
  178. You: There are no values besides the child, the parent, and the walking motion. As well as some room for them to be in.
  179.  
  180. You: No America, No Western world, no Eastern world, no TV, no culture, nothing.
  181.  
  182. You: A grey room with grey people.
  183.  
  184. Stranger: well
  185.  
  186. Stranger: if you didn't cut me off
  187.  
  188. Stranger: i said earlier
  189.  
  190. Stranger: that there was actually an experiment
  191.  
  192. Stranger: with a baby
  193.  
  194. Stranger: in a room
  195.  
  196. Stranger: with nothing
  197.  
  198. Stranger: and people would come everyday and put food on the ground
  199.  
  200. You: And it had a motivation to walk, right?
  201.  
  202. You: It learned by itself.
  203.  
  204. Stranger: no
  205.  
  206. Stranger: it died
  207.  
  208. You: Then that's the proof that it's not going to learn how to walk all on it's own.
  209.  
  210. Stranger: but
  211.  
  212. Stranger: if there was someone walking
  213.  
  214. Stranger: If he could see someone walking
  215.  
  216. Stranger: he would have learn by himself
  217.  
  218. You: If he payed attention to those things.
  219.  
  220. You: For all you know he could look at the person's shirt and go "Ooh".
  221.  
  222. You: "Blue!"
  223.  
  224. Stranger: of course
  225.  
  226. You: Thus, if you leave a person to be ill-equipped, how do you expect them to be magically inclined to magically become better?
  227.  
  228. You: It's not certain. It never is certain. Talking is a better cause and effect than Beating, but not 100% foolproof either.
  229.  
  230. Stranger: it is
  231.  
  232. You: Environmental pressures cause a change in the system. You can't have a cube of ice in lava, not even a cube of carbon ice.
  233.  
  234. Stranger: .....
  235.  
  236. Stranger: are you kidding
  237.  
  238. You: There could be a form of solid pertaining to ice we don't know about yet. But we don't have it.
  239.  
  240. Stranger: technically
  241.  
  242. Stranger: you can have ice in lava
  243.  
  244. You: Technically, you can't get a cube of ice to -be- ice within a radius where the sea of lava is so hot that it melts the cube of ice, if not melting your skin and baking you alive.
  245.  
  246. Stranger: and carbon ice
  247.  
  248. Stranger: carbon ice actually exists
  249.  
  250. Stranger: you cunt
  251.  
  252. Stranger: Are you in middle school
  253.  
  254. Stranger: what the fuck
  255.  
  256. You: Then document this right now.
  257.  
  258. You: Show the world.
  259.  
  260. Stranger: but google this
  261.  
  262. You: Google?
  263.  
  264. You: Internet?
  265.  
  266. Stranger: You're a fucking retard
  267.  
  268. You: Citations.
  269.  
  270. You: You see?
  271.  
  272. You: You get all angry.
  273.  
  274. Stranger: What the fucking fuck
  275.  
  276. Stranger: How can you be so un educated
  277.  
  278. You: You just yell at people and expect better.
  279.  
  280. Stranger: Have you ever been to school
  281.  
  282. You: Rawr.
  283.  
  284. Stranger: how can you not have any knowledge ?
  285.  
  286. Stranger: Are you american ,µ
  287.  
  288. You: How can you not use capitals?
  289.  
  290. Lazy?
  291.  
  292. You: I sometimes am lazy.
  293.  
  294. Stranger: See
  295.  
  296. Stranger: You're looking for the little things that doesn't matter
  297.  
  298. Stranger: dude
  299.  
  300. You: But I'm not American, and it wouldn't matter if I was.
  301.  
  302. Stranger: you're american
  303.  
  304. Stranger: and you have no knowledge
  305.  
  306. You: What doesn't matter?
  307.  
  308. Stranger: please go study SCIENCES
  309.  
  310. Stranger: Because Sciences is what get you SMART
  311.  
  312. You: It's easier to read things when they look like a certain shape.
  313.  
  314. Stranger: and not litterature or anything else
  315.  
  316. You: Literature isn't smarts?
  317.  
  318. You: How are you talking?
  319.  
  320. You: What is English? Or any language? Communication, right? I thought I had to be 'smart' in speech to read and write things in any language. I can't be clever in English, because then I don't know my ABCs: I'd be guessing.
  321.  
  322. Stranger: And how is this literature ?
  323.  
  324. Stranger: This is nothing
  325.  
  326. You: I read things, so I know how to read.
  327.  
  328. I read things about things, so I know things because people said they had reasons to write these things. And, age-old examples to accompany them, sometimes.
  329.  
  330. Stranger: You know that people knows how to do some basic maths and some basics languages
  331.  
  332. Stranger: You're so stupid
  333.  
  334. You: I never said they didn't. And not all people do. You're no Einstein, neither am I.
  335.  
  336. You: Copy and paste where I did say that.
  337.  
  338. You: Give me some proof to accept your claim with.
  339.  
  340. Stranger: You think that knowing how to do a multiplication or an addition
  341.  
  342. Stranger: makes that you can do math
  343.  
  344. Stranger: NO
  345.  
  346. You: It is a sign.
  347.  
  348. You: That's basic operations.
  349.  
  350. Stranger: YES
  351.  
  352. Stranger: And the basics
  353.  
  354. Stranger: aren't AT ALL
  355.  
  356. Stranger: maths
  357.  
  358. You: So the basics don't exist, because they aren't a part of Math?
  359.  
  360. Stranger: literatures
  361.  
  362. Stranger: and shit
  363.  
  364. You: That means Einstein was wrong.
  365.  
  366. Stranger: This is some things that people MUST know
  367.  
  368. You: He used multiplication in his work. That isn't Math at all.
  369.  
  370. Stranger: And every people that doesn't know this
  371.  
  372. Stranger: are just low IQed
  373.  
  374. Stranger: einstein did math and physics to a high level
  375.  
  376. You: This is a qualitative observation.
  377.  
  378. This -is- about culture. When I made my point, it had nothing to do with culture. No lifestyles besides the infancy stage, and even then there was no Madonna or Same-sex parent.
  379.  
  380. Stranger: and this is what you can call math and physics
  381.  
  382. You: You gave it context. The modern world.
  383.  
  384. You: Schools. Good schools that don't exist in a place where war just happens.
  385.  
  386. You: That's where everyone knows how to do 2 x 2. You can't just assume all Humans know this, too. I could find people in good schools that -cannot- do multiplication. They're 6, sometimes they can be 14.
  387.  
  388. You: You don't even have to get vulgar to present a point to me, as well.
  389.  
  390. You: That makes it way easier to talk. Who knows, you could be right.
  391.  
  392. Stranger: how old are you
  393.  
  394. You: 18.
  395.  
  396. Are you going to use Ageism now?
  397.  
  398. Stranger: No
  399.  
  400. Stranger: But i think
  401.  
  402. Stranger: that you have an ENORMOUS
  403.  
  404. Stranger: lack of knowledge
  405.  
  406. Stranger: for your age
  407.  
  408. You: I know I don't know everything.
  409.  
  410. But you don't know anything about me besides what's on the table here.
  411.  
  412. Stranger: When i was 17
  413.  
  414. You: And I'm okay with that.
  415.  
  416. Stranger: i knew more than you
  417.  
  418. Stranger: and im only an average guy
  419.  
  420. Stranger: Study more
  421.  
  422. Stranger: learn more
  423.  
  424. Stranger: because
  425.  
  426. Stranger: only intelligents people rule the world
  427.  
  428. Stranger: not bullied people
  429.  
  430. Stranger: which are stupids
  431.  
  432. You: When you were 17, it was a different time. This isn't the time where might makes right, but you have a right to be a man/woman of your time. A man with a knife in his side is not always an idiot, but a man with a knife in his side.
  433.  
  434. Most likely he wasn't Superman and got stabbed.
  435.  
  436. You: In fact, sometimes bullies rule the world. That's the reality, and you're not 17 anymore. I seriously hope you're not teaching my generation to stab eachothers' eyes out with a pencil.
  437.  
  438. Stranger has disconnected.
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