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- CaliberChamp: serebii.net > smogon
- %shnen: caliberchamp shut up
- %shnen: we've had this discussion before
- %shnen: and we basically concluded that you don't have a smogon account
- %shnen: and have no good reason to dislike it
- CaliberChamp: lolz at shnen
- CaliberChamp: remember what I said from before about smogon accepting you?
- CaliberChamp: smogon is the only community that accepts you that's why you like it and defend it.
- %shnen: so your only reason to dislike it
- %shnen: is a stupid insult?
- CaliberChamp: well I prefer serebii's website more
- %shnen: can you provide genuine reasons
- %shnen: for why you dislike smogon
- %shnen: if so I will accept your opinion
- %shnen: but atm you're just bashing for no reason
- CaliberChamp: alot of trolls from 4 chan hang out at smogon
- %shnen: lol
- %shnen: I hope you're joking
- %shnen: smogon discourages 4chan massively
- %shnen: and people who use their memes
- %shnen: just get shunned
- %shnen: and it's frowned upon to do so
- CaliberChamp: they try to be the government of pokemon, kind of like the team rocket of the pokemon games. That's what Smogon really is
- %shnen: lol
- %shnen: I asked for legitimate reasons
- +wilde32: They make the most balanced metagame there is, and people shun them for it
- %shnen: they don't force their tiers upon people
- %shnen: people recognise that they are the best and use them
- %shnen: simple as
- %shnen: the tiering process
- %shnen: isn't the leader of smogon
- %shnen: just picking what happens
- %shnen: it's the best players all coming togeter and forming a consensus
- +Shuckiee: Do yourself a favor and ask where the metagame would be if it wasn't for smogon
- CaliberChamp: I already gave my reasons for disliking smogon
- %shnen: none of which were legitimate
- CaliberChamp: and ninetails, tyranitar, hippo and politoed weather abilities would be banned if they were fair but smogon isn't fair
- %shnen: caliberchamp
- %shnen: if you think they are broken
- CaliberChamp: they want this pokemon game meta game to be all about weather
- %shnen: go and become a respected player on smogon
- %shnen: do well
- %shnen: and try to get them banned
- %shnen: logically
- %shnen: or alternatively
- %shnen: go and make your own tier lists
- %shnen: see how successful they do
- %shnen: smogon isn't a dictatorship run by people who shape the game the way they want it to be
- %shnen: it's the best players conglomerating to attempt to make our game better
- %shnen: now pardon me for saying this as I might be wrong
- %shnen: but the people who make the tiering decisions
- %shnen: are far more knowledgeable abotu this game than you
- %shnen: they are some of the best players of the game
- %shnen: and that is why they get to make the decisions
- CaliberChamp: garchomp wouldn't be as OP without sandstorm though
- %shnen: caliberchamp
- CaliberChamp: but all sandstorm teams used to use him before the ban
- %shnen: go and say why you think sandstorm is so broken
- %shnen: argue well and logically
- CaliberChamp: yeah I'm aware of chomps perfectly in place stats
- CaliberChamp: he has bulk when he shouldn't really have any bulk to him
- %shnen: if you'd like to continue this discussion, feel free to pm me
- CaliberChamp: why do you care so much about smogon?
- %shnen: smogon is a fantastic sight
- %shnen: site
- %shnen: and you just bashing it repeatedly with no logical reason
- %shnen: irritates me
- %shnen: that's why
- CaliberChamp: it was voted one of the worst message boards on shoryuken.com
- %shnen: so fucking what
- CaliberChamp: though 4chan won
- %shnen: if I make a thread on smogon
- %shnen: saying that shoryuken sucks
- CaliberChamp: smogon was like the 2nd worst lol
- %shnen: does that mean that it is automatically a terrible site
- %shnen: give me legitimate reasoning for what's bad about it
- %shnen: emphasis on legitimate
- CaliberChamp: its run by elitists who bend the rules in their favor so their teams do well
- %shnen: lol
- %shnen: ok so
- %shnen: firstly the elitist arguement is completely false
- %shnen: and has been for years
- %shnen: smogon is accepting to new members
- %shnen: as long as they aren't dumb
- %shnen: and read the rules
- %shnen: and it's easy for them to become integreated and respected members of teh community
- %shnen: now about them bending the rules
- CaliberChamp: someone got banned from smogon for making fun of a create a pokemon
- %shnen: that's a ridicolous point
- %shnen: give me the exact case
- %shnen: I'm sure they broke the rules
- CaliberChamp: it was a mod that created the pokemon and he got pissed and banned him
- %shnen: show me
- %shnen: the post in question
- %shnen: and also
- %shnen: if they make an account
- CaliberChamp: I guess alot of stuff goes behind your back on smogon
- %shnen: solely to bash something which countless people have poured lots of effort and time into
- %shnen: then is that the kind of person you want on smogon?
- %shnen: lol
- %shnen: I know a shitload more about what goes on on smogon than you do
- CaliberChamp: I did my research on google about smogon already
- %shnen: lol
- %shnen: I'm on smogon and i have access to the private forums detailing the inside and outside workings of the forum
- %shnen: trust me I know mroe than you do
- %shnen: well
- %shnen: stuff you read on the internet
- CaliberChamp: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smogon
- %shnen: isn't always true anyway
- %shnen: hi
- %shnen: can you stop
- %shnen: ignoring my points
- %shnen: and saying irrelevant things
- %shnen: the fact that there are some people who dislike smogon and thus they post those kind of definitions
- %shnen: means nothing
- %shnen: there are peolpe who disllike every site
- CaliberChamp: I'm not saying irrelant things I 'm listening to you
- %shnen: and may I add that most of those people don't have legitimate reasoning
- %shnen: other than
- %shnen: 'lol elitists'
- %shnen: 'who gave them the power to rule over pokemon'
- %shnen: you have no idea of the hard work that goes into making smogon what it is
- %shnen: in addition most of those definitions
- %shnen: are made by people who failed to behave properly
- %shnen: and read the rules
- %shnen: and so the community bans them
- %shnen: or infracts them
- %shnen: or whatever
- %shnen: for legiitmaite reasons
- %shnen: and so they get mad
- %shnen: that's all there is to it
- CaliberChamp: ooo ok well I can't keep up with all theese PM's.
- %shnen: it's not that hard to read
- CaliberChamp: I'm not going to sign up on that shitty website
- %shnen: lol
- %shnen: so you have
- %shnen: no legitmate reasoning
- %shnen: and I have just proven that
- %shnen: yet you maintain your views
- %shnen: that it is 'shitty'
- CaliberChamp: its not just me that hates smogon rules
- CaliberChamp: its alot of people
- %shnen: go find a rule
- %shnen: on smogon
- %shnen: that is terirble
- %shnen: the smogon rules are entirely reasonable
- CaliberChamp: allowing weather abilities to happen
- %shnen: tell me what's bad about that
- %shnen: prove to me
- %shnen: why they're broken
- CaliberChamp: cause its infinite rain, hail, sun, sandstorm
- %shnen: and?
- %shnen: prove to me why it's broken
- %shnen: that's like saying
- CaliberChamp: I'd be fine if they used rain dance and it lasted for only 5 turns
- %shnen: 'sunkern is broken'
- %shnen: 'cause it's sunkern'
- %shnen: so
- %shnen: tell me
- %shnen: why it makes the metagame worse
- %shnen: and how it's unmanageable
- CaliberChamp: cause I cant hit ferrothorn or some other pokemon in rain with fire attacks not doing as much damage
- CaliberChamp: it gives the advantage to the whole team
- %shnen: hahahaha
- %shnen: are you dumb
- CaliberChamp: I was fine with the weather moves being in uber
- %shnen: 'weather changes some things'
- %shnen: 'ban it'
- %shnen: please tell me you're trolling
- CaliberChamp: please tell me you aren't delusional
- CaliberChamp: you're acting like your married to smogon
- %shnen: lol ok
- %shnen: I have picked apart
- %shnen: every single reason of yopurs
- %shnen: for disliking smogon
- %shnen: so no
- %shnen: w
- %shnen: you resort to childish ad hominems
- CaliberChamp: theres no convincing you. Even when I showed you weblinks for proof...
- %shnen: hahahahaha
- %shnen: you ahve given me
- %shnen: no legitimate reasons
- %shnen: why should I be convinced
- CaliberChamp: you already climbed up the smogon later if your a mod here
- CaliberChamp: so theres not reason for you to be convinced
- %shnen: uh
- CaliberChamp: if you did think the way I did you wouldn't be a mod at all
- %shnen: me being a mod
- %shnen: has nothing to do with smogon
- %shnen: that's because we don't want retards being mods
- CaliberChamp: you sound like an elitist to me by calling me all these names, when I never called you any names
- %shnen: jesus
- CaliberChamp: thank you for the proof you just proved it that you are an elitists
- %shnen: sorry but
- %shnen: I've proven all your reasons to dislike smogon
- %shnen: wrong
- %shnen: yet you still cling to your belief that smogon sucks
- %shnen: which is completely unfounded
- %shnen: you've just conducted yourself idioticly
- %shnen: sorry for snapping at you
- %shnen: that was out of line
- %shnen: but honestly
- %shnen: please at least try to broaden your views
- CaliberChamp: all the elitiest make the rules to smogon
- %shnen: instead of sticking with ilogical and unfounde thoughts
- %shnen: and again
- %shnen: with igonring what I'm saying
- %shnen: and saying silly things
- CaliberChamp: I gave good contributions by suggesting AEO to have a donate option
- CaliberChamp: and he appreciated by idea
- %shnen: read what I just said
- CaliberChamp: but wouldn't make me a mod because all the smogonites have something against me
- %shnen: you don't get mods just for suggesting a donate feature
- CaliberChamp: that was one of the reasons though
- %shnen: to be a mod you need to show
- %shnen: intelligence
- %shnen: helpfulness
- %shnen: activeness
- %shnen: and other postive qualities
- %shnen: how many of those have you shown
- CaliberChamp: there is one quality that is lacking though lol
- %shnen: elitism?
- CaliberChamp: and that is honesty
- CaliberChamp: I say what I believe I don't brown nose people just to get popular enough to become a mod
- %shnen: what makes you think I've brown nosed anyone
- %shnen: give me proof that I have please
- CaliberChamp: I wouldn't know anything about your past
- %shnen: so how can you make those kind of comments
- %shnen: you can't
- %shnen: simple as
- CaliberChamp: from other mods on smogon
- %shnen: oh
- %shnen: so you've spoken to other smogon mods
- %shnen: about me
- %shnen: and how I brown nose?
- %shnen: give me proof
- CaliberChamp: no not about you
- CaliberChamp: AEO was ready to make me a mod once I donated a certain amount of money to him
- %shnen: proof
- %shnen: also how is that not brown nosing
- %shnen: if you're donating
- %shnen: specifcally so that you can get mods
- CaliberChamp: I was joking about the donating part I wasn't going to actually donate
- %shnen: lol
- other funny stuff:
- CaliberChamp: wilde, are you 32 years old? Also are you Olivia Wilde by any chance?
- %The Immortal: Ya, I am.
- %Zacchaeus: bit late
- %Zacchaeus: olivia wilde <333 though
- %Solace: damn olivia wilde
- %Zacchaeus: solace
- %Zacchaeus: who is hotter, olivia wilde or diana agron?
- CaliberChamp: imagine olivia wilde dressed up as a pokemon trainer
- iliketowin: .........
- %shnen: x_x
- CaliberChamp: she should be in a real life pokemon movie
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