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are there a bunch of drops happening...
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i feel sad :-(
נąȼЌ๏ƒąℓℓȼяąƒţ$
Me too. I hate seeing drops even if I don't personally know who everyone is.
kioaun
Oh no another dropsplosion
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yeah.... but i know the games in a difficult place rn and it's understandable why ppl might drop
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to me, anyway
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but it's tough to lose cr you like!! haha
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idk it just makes me feel uncertain even more and all that
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that too
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so it's like sometimes i'll look at my inbox, and not know which threads are continuing and which aren't
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and that makes it hard to tag
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because i have a limited time to tag and all that
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and i'm a writer who tends to take a while
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i just straight up ask people.
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yeah, i probably will once friday rolls around and i start tagging again, just because it seems like some things are happening
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this is nothing against people who have to drop/aren't feeling the setting, of course!! i think i already said that but yeah
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it's super understandable
#protectkarl
anxiety over games or psls (if it feels like they've been dropped, or whatever) is just no good.
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yeah
#protectkarl
it's just easier to ask.
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i'm venting my thoughts here so i hope i don't offend anyone or anything, if i do it's unintentional
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i guess overall with ariel i just
#protectkarl
oh, i'm just commenting because i've been there and... i hate confrontation??? but i hate thread anxiety more, lmao.
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it feels like it did in z when it started to really wind down
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#protectkarl oh no, i was just talking in general, not replying to you! it's reassuring to hear you feel the same way actually
#protectkarl
i haven't actually lost anything in a month, so i'm very sorry that it's not the same for you.
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and i dislike that feeling. the uncertainty, not knowing where stuff is going, having suggestions that you think could do a lot for the game
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but not being able to do much in reality
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so it's like you're just sitting there waiting for stuff to happen
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#protectkarl lost what? threads, cr? i don't think i understand
#protectkarl
threads!
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oh! aha
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i don't think i've lost much either, really, it's kind of just that weird inbetween point
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i decided i still really like the game... i mean, in what other game can i play out period sex and ghoulbaby pregnancies. seirously
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anything you want you can play here
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and i have good cr. and i do stll think things can happen to fix the problems. so i'm still here
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but yeah, i really dislike when i feel this way with games
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but what happens will happen
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i do think there are issues with ariel that need to be straightened out. i know some people are okay with it as it is, and that's fine
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but there are definitely issues, to me. and tbh if some of them continue, i will be out too
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it'll just reach the point where it isn't worth it for me
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ahaha i'm not trying to sound dramatic, if i am!! (LOL) really by this point it's super cut and dry to me
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and like i'm sad but i know that's a temporary thing?
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i don't know. i might send in some more suggestions, if i'm still feeling it later
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but what it still comes down to is waiting and seeing. i never really do good with that when it's all vague
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i kind of want to encourage everyone on my tl to hiatus if they aren't feeling the game rn
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i didn't phrase that well! i just meant to say it would be harder to complete ac
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i think on friday i'll ask where some of these threads lie and then just go from there
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кιηg ναηιℓℓα
Our threads are still on! <3
Badassium
i dont want to say im surprised that the mods havent...done anything else yet
Badassium
but its...not good that they havent???
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нσяηѕ υρ i'm sorry, did i say something off? i don't know how to take that emote! (LOL)
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i'm sorry if i did
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i always talk too much
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кιηg ναηιℓℓα yes! great! uwu
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kaxyz yeah, that's where i'm at too. like i do think they plan to say something eventually,and that's good! but the waiting game is hard in the meanwhile
Badassium
yeah why are they waiting??? i guess iknow why because theyre unorganized and people are MIA but honestly
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mostly because i didn't expect to see more drops coming in, but that too is understandable
Badassium
i knew the snk cast was going to drop, they decided on it a few days ago
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that's something you'd have to ask them
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it's probably bc ac is still being done, and yeah, i'm sure anything they'd say would have to be approved by all 4
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apps are going on too
Badassium
yeah true
Badassium
there arent many apps in rn though
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yeah, i'm not sure! i could assume they do a bunch of stuff for general game upkeep and all that
Badassium
yeah
Badassium
this just seemed like an important thing to address asap though
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idk. like i said if the stuff continues i'm out, but i'm ok for rn, if waiting for answers
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oh, i agree. maybe soon we'll hear something
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for now i'm looking forward to getting back to threads and just playing what i have planned
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i'm actually really happy with the cr plots and stuff i have going on
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Badassium we're still waiting to hear back on the chip thing btw, i don't think i ever touched base with you again! it's a plotty thing so we should hear back in april
Badassium
right, ok!
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sorry i never got back to you, snacky talked to me a few weeks ago about that i think
Badassium
oh dont worry
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no no the emote is me checking plurk and seeing all the talk of drops and making me think oh no something happened while I slept
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нσяηѕ υρ oh, i figured it was something like that! haha i'm sorry
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yeah, i woke up and it was the same... like i knew one or two drops were happening but then stuff happened overnight
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;(
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yes... very sad
Pulibear
There's a lot of griefs being aired that result in people giving up.
Pulibear
It's frustrating because the negative vibe kinda slows everything down/makes a lot of sudden absences in the CR horizon, but... y'know. Do what ya do.
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Can't blame people for giving up though.
Pulibear
I'm gonna keep playing my game and enjoying my threads and development and making it worth it in my own way.
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It's frustrating as all hell being told oh yeah we're listening we're listening and then.....realize they aren't. really.
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Pulibear yeah, exactly
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what casey said too
kioaun
I have been waiting over a month to get the meta info I asked for.
kioaun
I want to do things but I can't do anything outside event threads because I don't know wtf is going on
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these things will happen in games, and i really,r eally can't blame anyone for wanting to drop because sometimes it's understandably just not worth it
kioaun
I JUST WANT THERE TO BE PORN
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it's rp, in the end who cares and you do you
kioaun
AND PEOPLE TO GET RUDELY SHAKEN
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kioaun i know, about the meta thing. i've seen you say it
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I just want mods that will do things properly
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hopefully i will get back to the lu thread soon, i'm very excited for it! but alas all out hiatusing is the best for me this week
kioaun
I was all set like oh good meta and baby things and- and then CR dropped and meta is delayed and I am so lost
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with where i'm at in the game
kioaun
There's no rush. I'm being slow and trying to give myself a break
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good! yeah, definitely do that
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it's been a great week so far haha
Pulibear
Unfortunately the mods on deck aren't the even ones with meta info there to shovel, and they can't just overhaul on their say because they're the people newer at this and signed on for basically what amounts to
Pulibear
support staff. So I really hope everybody gets back on board and fulfills what needs to be done soon, because... damn, I know how it is to be like- yes I'm a mod on duty but my hands are tied with this and this
Pulibear
and that.
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it's a really sticky situation (lmao forgive me for both my choice of words and the unintentional pun) bc those mods are on hiatus for reasons we would all go on hiatus for
Pulibear
Right. You know, securing your life and shit is stuff we'd all want the grace period for.
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but on the other hand, the game is at a point where people are really needing those answers and to know what's going on
kioaun
It's just poor management to shaft the people who are left, though.
kioaun
Er. Left with the load while you are away.
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so thats all i can say about it, really! i think anything else is something for everyone to decide what they think or what they'll say
kioaun
I wouldn't be so ticked off if they hadn't wheeled out a NEW IMPROVED SYSTEM
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yeah
kioaun
While people are waiting for something basic like status AC
Pulibear
Everybody I'm playing with is really enjoyable and well worth my patience with the state of the game on the whole.
rica.
^this. That's what pushed it over the edge for me. I understand that the situation is difficult and some of the mods are new, but... deal with it in an effective way then. Clean out problems, don't make more.
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i hope everything works out
kioaun
I think the theory that there is no meta info is correct. That everything was lost with the original mods of the game.
kioaun
In which case popcorn.gif
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i've mentioned it before but i think discussion between players and mods will really do a lot
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But yeah I have utmost sympathy for the mods that are not on hiatus. It must suck
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kioaun i don't think that's true, haha
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that would surprise me if it was
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because really, id on't think anyone in this plurk is being unreasonable, and it's all understandable
Pulibear
(unsure) Worldbuilding on top of someone's existing worldbuild is rough, man.
Pulibear
That's definitely why we wound up not passing Siren's Pull on to a whole new gen modteam, when we decided to endgame
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Not if it's done right
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but when things happen, it's like that all comes out
Pulibear
Because when you hand things off creators to maintainers, there's always a bit of consistency lost.
rica.
I've taken over a game before. It's tough but doable. We took two weeks off to straighten shit out.
rica.
like, if you acknowledge the problem you can solve it. I don't know what happened here.
kioaun
Let's try to take everyone's suggestions with no veto power and implement everything immediately, confusing the vast majority is what appears to have happened
kioaun
I'm stuck where a lot of people are stuck which is "Buh?" and staring uncomprehendingly
kioaun
I'm not mad or upset, I'm just so confused I don't have the brainpower to devote to figuring shit out
fate/stay mad
there was a lot of stagnation following jade's absence and a lot of dropping of balls... so to speak
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so if I'd point to any reason for why what is happening now, is happening now
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I'd point to that
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and when things snowball to the point of an avalanche it becomes difficult to stop, word spreads, drops happen, etc.
fate/stay mad
it's a dicey state of affairs for dwrp but that is just how it is now.
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yeah, i agree with that
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the problems we're seeing now have been building for a while
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not all the mods are brand new, Lark has been a mod since close to the game started
fate/stay mad
this could've been caught a lot sooner and that more than anything led to me dropping personally
fate/stay mad
that yeah this WAS going on for a while
fate/stay mad
and very little was done about it
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before the new mod team happened. like i think in fall of last year we were talking about it
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right
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so that's why i can understand the drops. sometimes it's just too much to wait more
fate/stay mad
I also don't understand either why all these concurrent hiatuses keep happening?
fate/stay mad
putting the meta in the hands of one or two is probably not a good idea if these one or two keep having to go off somewhere
fate/stay mad
for legit reasons yes but then issues like this occur
fate/stay mad
so there's just a lot of uneven communication going on and the playerbase wasn't dumb and figured it out
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it's just tough all the way around
fate/stay mad
I would agree :-( I hope you guys get resolution one way or another
fate/stay mad
I had a great time in ariel and still wish it the best but this is getting frustrating even just to watch
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yeah :-(
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i am very glad i made this plurk, though
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i was holding a lot of it back and just getting out all my thoughts here really helped
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and talking with everyone, too
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question I have is if things were different and made better would people who left come back :-(
Badassium
the original mods lasted for like....a few months tops and they were a disaster
Badassium
i love them for creating this game but they werent..fit to be mods of it
Badassium
idk if theyd even thought out this far ahead about the meta and stuff because of the fact that they left the game to other people so early on, they might not have even had a grand sceme of things
Badassium
*scheme
Badassium
apparently though only 2 mods are on hiatus now though, one of those 3/4 hiatuses was very temporary and that mod i sback now? is what i was told
Badassium
idk why it was necessary to say that 3/4 mods were on hiatus if one was only a hiatus for a week or a couple of days but i guess it was still valid
Badassium
its possible people would come back :Ca if things were like WOW SO FUN again though but some people might just be worn out by the setting
Pulibear
I don't think Ariel's inherently a BAD setting, I just think it needs some tightening up the loose gears, and room for expanding conflict.
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And for everybody to feel like we're all on the same page with what's readily availible
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нσяηѕ υρ i actually think that's a possibility, yeah
Pulibear
And where the IC carrot and stick game is for advancement
Pulibear
Like, when I joined I felt like it was pretty clear.
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but i'm more thinking in terms of like... it's salvageable. stuff can be done to fix things
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there is still a place for a game like ariel in dwrp imo. there are things you can play here you can play in no other game and that's the appeal
Pulibear
But as we've progressed there's been more evidence of the dystopian scarcity cropping up- WHICH I THINK IS INTERESTING, but it needs to be communicated more effectively across the board.
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plus the ac makes it so there is way more follow-through and actual rp
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it's a good game. it just right now has some hiccups that really need to be straightened out
Pulibear
Yeah, I feel really comfortable getting my kink-shit on in Ariel, and playing out slow sex addict corruption.
Pulibear
I've never felt judged by the players for what I want to play
kioaun
Ymmv on that front
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^this
kioaun
stop playing pretty white girls, God
Pulibear
Yeah, status AC in concept works out really well to get people to commit to wrapping things up/moving threads along to get to new ones?
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Pulibear getting back to this now, but i couldn't have put it better myself
Pulibear
And while I love the idea of expanding rewards, it could have been tabled clearer/better/ in conjunction with tightening up those loose setting bolts.
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oh, for sure. i will never app a younger character to this game
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and knowing some people in this game were genuinely hating on me for my preference not to play underage stuff with my character?? not cool
Pulibear
:-( if you ever do wanna side play Namine on memes though, plz, I have not had enough Nami/Zexion interaction at all in my RP career
kioaun
They could have written it in better. "The government understands socialization is the best for building healthy relationships that can lead to sex! They are rewarding people for socializing with these new
kioaun
items! They are based on how often your character's chip is in proximity to another!"
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and i know ppl will keep dragging me through the mud, probably
fate/stay mad
lol at this point it may in fact be better to move away from the dystopia angle
Pulibear
I'm so sorry you've had to deal with that, Ginko. Nobody should feel as pressured as you have to play what amounts to IC or OOC uncomfortable age-disparity stuff
fate/stay mad
I never really felt that was managed or communicated well
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like i am still wary with some of the stuff i'm playing now, if ppl will judge me. it's just gotten to the point where i honestly don't give as much of a shit
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pretty bland white girls you mean
Pulibear
Like if it's your jam like me, I'm filth then whatever.
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i would agree that there are still problems with that in game
Pulibear
The whole concept of a city where sex is mandatory IS dystopian, though.
Pulibear
I'm not sure how you'd move beyond that concept without breaking up a lot of the structure
fate/stay mad
it barely felt like it had any structure as it was when I left
Pulibear
Unless you mean dystopian where the scarcity stuff is concerned
fate/stay mad
like I had been there a year and a half and I still barely even knew what the city looked like
fate/stay mad
that's a problem
fate/stay mad
if it was dystopia it sure didn't feel much like it
fate/stay mad
so fixing the worldbuilding should be top priority
Pulibear
In which case, yes, like, just call it social-status capitalism and this is the one list of regulated stuff that's limited and be done with it
fate/stay mad
really the general lack of structure is... where a lot of these issues seem to revolve
Pulibear
But when so many of the original perks ARE, like- agricultural-based? That seems to skew the whole perspective of advancement.
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gonna go get subway brb
Pulibear
I think the city itself is pretty decently laid out in terms of what it looks like- The locations page is pretty... understandable?
fate/stay mad
it's "understandable" but that doesn't make it any less bland and unnotable
Pulibear
I wish weather and calender changes and structural stuff like the govt and trolley were presented a little cleaner
Pulibear
And... yes, we're still waiting on the mods working on that (who are hiatused) to fix those issues
fate/stay mad
when your game is bordering on crisis mode still waiting is not really not the way instill confidence in your players
fate/stay mad
like... again this information should've been passed around more evenly
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agreed
Pulibear
Mmhm. /shrug
нσяηѕ υρ
a lot of the instability happening right now is due to the lack of communication. period. proper communication.
fate/stay mad
I see what you're saying puli but I might've been more sympathetic if this hadn't already been going on for a long time
fate/stay mad
there were a lot of little things that piled up and that's what happens when the big stack of things falls over
Pulibear
Yeah. Nah, I'm not denying that things are messy right no.
Pulibear
But then I look around my own SUPER CLUTTERED living space and know I exist perfectly happy here, where other people might call my own apartment unihabitable.
fate/stay mad
tbh I felt that way too with the earlier complaints because I thought "hey I still got things I can do"
kioaun
But other people are not forced to live in your living space
fate/stay mad
and then I ran out of things to do
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^^^this is whhere I'm at
fate/stay mad
I'm not privy to the reason for hiatus, to my understanding it was serious, but playing disappearing act RIGHT NOW
fate/stay mad
when you have key info on your hands and all these players are waiting
fate/stay mad
yeah that is how drop trains happen
Pulibear
The problem is that we're still waiting on who's gonna start cleaning/picking things up, and while putting in new furniture's great, it doesn't all match to the existing set, and there's still clutter that
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to be addressed.
Pulibear
...But again, me personally, acknowledging the mess, is still finding it habitable because I have really awesome people I'm writing with, and I've put time and energy into settling in
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There's no need for new furniture.
fate/stay mad
if I were them and wearing modhat I'd kick it into immediate overdrive the second I reasonably could when I got back
fate/stay mad
bullet item post of okay, here are your answers to 1, 2, and 3
fate/stay mad
here is when we are doing 4
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The need to fix up the mess first before adding more to it. that's my beef
rica.
yeah, this isn't an episode of hoarders
Badassium
yeah i feel like theyre avoiding the issue rn
fate/stay mad
it's well and good to be doing your own thing but if they're gonna sandbox the game, just say so
fate/stay mad
I still feel the "WELL IT'S BOTH" decision was dumb, sorry
Badassium
like i know mods are on hiatus but are they so unavailable that another mod couldnt poke them and be like would you be cool with us posting this?
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They can't just cover up the mess with a sheet and pretend it's not there and put out shit on top of it.
fate/stay mad
they're not handling both well
Badassium
and then they could...clear things up like, its SUCH bad timing and its looking bad
kioaun
Yeah. I like plot! It would be fun! But I would be all for "Hey this is just to play porn out in, enjoy your sand" because at least it wouldn't be a clusterfuck
fate/stay mad
I would cautiously lean towards optimism and say this can be fixed if they just fess up that things got messed up and really work at it
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I praise whoever told that one mod that it was bad tact and making them look bad when they kept trying to reply in the recent update
fate/stay mad
instead of all this ehhhhhhhing
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fate/stay mad: I don't think I've ever seen a group of mods fess to their mistakes lol
нσяηѕ υρ
So if they do come and say We fucked up, sorry about that - I'll be impressed
fate/stay mad
it just feels like still there is a lot of stubbornness going on when legitimate issues get raised
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Also yeah! the both decision WAS dumb. I actually enjoyed the sol sandbox of smut feel. that's why I joined in May.
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But now theyre like WELL LETS MAKE IT BOTH and on top of that here are a handful of restrictions.
Badassium
i will take your word for it snacky, but addressing it here is also not going to help with damage control i think
Badassium
im sticking around so its not my opinions you probably have to worry about
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It shouldn't be address here, period.
Badassium
i know you want to jump in as a not-mod and just join in discussion but at this point its the same thing as like...logging in on wg
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Okay. So why step in then to address anything concerning it?
нσяηѕ υρ
Keep it to the game community where everyone can see it.
Badassium
casey dont stir up shit :C though i do agree, anything addressed at this point should be made to the game at large
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Or the game plurk
Badassium
because everyone is waiting
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I'm not stirring up shit kael :C I'm just saying it as it is.
fate/stay mad
snacky I'll just say I think serious mod-to-mod conversation needs to happen when all parties are present
Badassium
and for that reason, giving any info to anyone as an individual rather than everyone at large is going to be a bad idea
fate/stay mad
and yeah, then post that to the comm is what I'd suggest
Badassium
that :C face better not be sarcastic!!! you know ilu
fate/stay mad
I feel bad that all you guys are really frustrated... I still love ariel in my heart of hearts
fate/stay mad
so I guess that's why it frustrates me more
fate/stay mad
I had such a good time at the game
kioaun
Seth is Jesus
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Badassium: haha! I did it cause you did it. but ilu2 bro
Badassium
Ok well I'm out cause it's time for me to go do stuff, y'all play nice now, y'here
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hi, i just got back so... i'm trying to catch up
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Pulibear i'd love to play namine with you again!! i've been wanting to play her recently
Pulibear
Even just canonAU or gen-y things.
Pulibear
Not enough namine in all the world in my life, precious madeleine.
Pulibear
Too good for this castle of losers.
liek u
I'm sad to see all these drops too, it makes it that much harder to feel like getting into the game, even all the other problems aside
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and snacky no worries! i think it's fine. anything on my plurk is free to be seen and commented on by anyone i have added
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again i didn't mean any offense to anyone with this plurk, it was originally just me getting my thoughts out
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fate/stay mad i think it's kind of frustration but also... mostly that confusion and uncertainty for me, now
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Pulibear for sure!! i really did enjoy playing her
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and liek u yeah, definitely
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i think periods like this just make it hard to tag
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i don't have much to contribute to everything else? i'm pretty fine with the locations page (with some more detail) and i actually think ariel can do both so
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then again i'm not exactly up to date on all the rp terms probably
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like i think the stuff i try to play is a good combination of pure smutty fun and some plotty stuff
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i just don't see the division, i guess. for some reason
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it's entirely possible i'm dumb
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but either way i'd like to see the same things, so i don't think that matters so much
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
I actually think the "both" decision is kind of the only way to go just because... otherwise you're basically telling people who joined for metaplot or have focused their entire character's development around
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
it that they... don't count? Or something?
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
I mean, what are those people supposed to do if it's sandboxed, drop?
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i just think both are possible. i tend to see compromises ridiculously everywhere though... i do that irl too
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i won't deny it would definitely take some work to get to a place where both are possible but
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
nods I think it's possible.
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i guess i see the "both" thing in events like the first storm event, when i first joined? or the whole heat thing
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
I mean there is some degree of limitation on how much change could happen while people still SOL it up, but I don't think you have to just DITCH THE WHOLE PLOT OUT THE WINDOW
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where you had the potential to play lots of kinky stuff, but you could also have a longlasting effect on your character, and be given the op to wonder or learn something new about the setting too
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
Yes!
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
That was interesting.
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now i just feel like i'm left to figure everything out on my own if i have an interest in playing it. aka smthn like that heat event hasn't happened again, so i need to set it up as a cr plot
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which isn't a bad thing? but you know, if you feel stuff is stagnating... or the players have asked for something in terms of events for a while and still don't get it
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
nods
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plus i kind of don't think it's really our job to think up all the events in the first place. that's a mod thing, because they have access to more information than we do
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(not saying anyone said it was!)
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I'm kind of at a loss because my whole plot for Ai is very dependent on perks that most people seem to ... want to get rid of or don't see the point of?
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
So I'm in a weird place.
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well mostly i see confusion about it
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
And a lot of people seem to be for just making everything available since there's confusion over what's available
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but i'm not up to speed on everything there so i can't talk about it. i just feel confused. like if there are certain things we can and can't do in ariel they need to be clear and they need to be in an faq
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and they need to make sense and they need to incorporate what's been assumed so far, often under mod permission... that's a tall order, but i still really think it's possible if worked at
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nods yeah it just needs to be sorted out
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i even think changes can occur they just... should be made through discussion, so no one's caught off guard. or worrying about whether their character can eat a banana (LOL)
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nods That particular thing is a matter of people playing it differently from the start though. (LOL)
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
It's been like that as long as I've been in the game.
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
So that's not a new issue.
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oh, for sure
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i would say wanting to do something about it, like they are now, is new
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but then that's even more important that it's done the right way
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nods
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
I just meant to say I can see being stalled out by the conflict, because I kind of feel that way too.
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back to the events, it's just kind of exhausting because when you think about it, we can offer concerns and suggestions all we want, but there's no real payoff for us (puli
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's event got picked, though!)
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when the game is in a rough spot it's hard to work up that motivation.
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and yeah leca, for sure! i see what you're saying
Pulibear
(I submitted it back in like- October, seeing it this month was a pleasant shocker!)
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TBH WE'D ALL BUY OUR MILK FROM AII ANYWAY EVEN IF RAW MILK SUDDENLY WAS WIDELY AVAILIBLE
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because cute delivery boys
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
Not really though?
Pulibear
But yeah, I feel like the lack of... mid-range perks was why a lot of people have been going for the agriculture stuff instead of meta
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
Or well, HIS supply is limited regardless of whether the overall supply is, and it gets STUPIDLY so if it's widely available, but beyond that...
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
food production as a rebellious/plotting act becomes pointless in the other case. (LOL)
Pulibear
Which is why the whole status system DOES need to be reflective of metaplotting plans?
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
but yeah there are gaps, and actually some of the perks introduced fill them pretty well, and some people liked a lot of them? But then there's that "availability" issue
Pulibear
But there's a lot of confusion with one being overhauled before we've really had the other fully addressed
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
Yes, exactly!
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
And the situation of some of the perks not being well explained, and potentially making things previously done unofficially cost.
Pulibear
(See: 2 fruit bearing things on Zexions' pergola garden, + Banora Tree from a 1 point seed perk)
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
nods
Pulibear
The mods tasked to that are not the mods defining the availibity situation, though, so...
Pulibear
This cart got put before the horse and started to careen downhill
aι ĸιngoғdυcĸѕ
Yeaaaaaaaah.
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I've said that before puli and I agree
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an updated faq needed to precede that sotg
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you know, the more I think about this the core problem has always been the same
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we need that reliable mod attention
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and clear and precise communication /is late
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imo for me where the problem lies is that people don't feel listened to, so when somebody says HEY, YOU CAN DO PLAYER PLOTS INSTEAD, people are going to go "Why bother when nothing I say as a player
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listened to?"
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There were a major amounts of missteps here and it had a profound effect on the game and as much as nobody wants to hear "Well this bites, I'm outtie"
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it's something that cannot and should not be denied. and unfortunately, i know a fair amount of people who feel there is denial in the official channels
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not to mention, i also have to say that i've seen some side-eye worthy responses from mods that left a bad taste in my mouth as a player. that doesnt help either
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no, i hear you there
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i've kind of realized that... i'm outtie too, if this doesn't change
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anyone who's spoken to me for any length of time can tell you i advocate for voicing concerns and things through the official channels, not commenting on wg (which i have never posted on, but that's besides the
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point) or some anon comm, or even just leaving them between you and your friends if you can
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it's honestly gotten to the point where i'm a little worn out though. and it's not through lack of trying to speak up where it can be seen
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it's seriously nothing personal against anyone either
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it's just... there really is only so much you can do
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and that sucks as a player
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it all seems like at this point we're expecting a big "things need to turn around come april!!!" and i'm not sure that's fair to anyone, mods included
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but i offered to help and i did what i could so... i'll stay hopeful
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there's too much work, not enough people, not enough communication. it'll have to take longer than april rolling around for changes to take place
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and i don't think a lot of people will want to wait that long when they've been waiting for so long already
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yup
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i know i'm one of those people