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  1. [4/24/2014 6:51:51 PM] *** Koontas added cass, Barwizi, Logan, Pocket, argakiig ***
  2. [4/24/2014 6:52:22 PM] Koontas: Officer chat - not for day to day conversation but for conversation or votes that need to stay between the 6 of us.
  3. [4/24/2014 6:55:49 PM] Koontas: And our first vote...on adding the scrypt miner: https://tricider.com/en/admin/1XWIn/3fa7sj
  4. [4/24/2014 6:55:54 PM] Pocket: I will be working on an investor update for the end of the month to show some progress and also talk a little about what's coming up
  5. [4/24/2014 6:56:31 PM] Pocket: Let me know if there's anything you guys want to make sure I include
  6. [4/24/2014 6:57:42 PM] Koontas: If the scrypt miner passes: In terms of the announcement, let's not disclose terms but just say that we have negotiated a deal to provide for an additional revenue stream with no up-front cost to the group.
  7. [4/24/2014 6:57:50 PM | Edited 6:58:04 PM] Koontas: No mention of additional mining Logan?
  8. [4/24/2014 6:59:52 PM] Koontas: Also, the past week has been pretty badass. (highfive)
  9. [4/24/2014 7:02:01 PM] Argakiig: (highfive)
  10. [4/24/2014 7:02:08 PM] Argakiig: i'll second that
  11. [4/24/2014 7:35:40 PM] Logan: I don't think we need to mention mining or how lucrative it will be.
  12. [4/24/2014 7:36:19 PM] Koontas: (y)
  13. [4/24/2014 7:37:37 PM] Logan: If we get a lot of questions, we can just say that under the arrangements made, we cannot disclose the details at this time.
  14. [4/24/2014 7:39:12 PM] Logan: The important thing to remember is that the "related party" nature of the deal could cause investors to worry that Barwizi might take advantage of the group due to his position.
  15. [4/24/2014 7:40:03 PM] Logan: So we could keep the details internal until it starts generating returns for the investors and by then they will not care.
  16. [4/24/2014 7:40:14 PM] Koontas: haha, makes sense
  17. [4/24/2014 7:41:45 PM] Logan: Yeah, I deal with small businesses and pubcos all the time. Minority shareholders can really make shit difficult.
  18. [4/24/2014 10:01:56 PM] Koontas: Arg, whenever you're not busy want to have a chat about the pool.
  19. [4/24/2014 10:03:05 PM] Argakiig: yeah
  20. [4/24/2014 10:03:09 PM] Argakiig: probably sometime tomorrow
  21. [4/24/2014 10:03:10 PM] Argakiig: sorry
  22. [4/24/2014 10:03:14 PM] Koontas: no worries dude
  23. [4/25/2014 12:30:27 AM] Cassiopaia: Good morning all
  24. [4/25/2014 7:05:07 AM] Logan: Can we get the rest of you to vote up today please
  25. [4/25/2014 7:21:12 AM] Cassiopaia: done
  26. [4/25/2014 10:19:41 AM] Koontas: The scrypt mining vote has passed.
  27. [4/25/2014 10:21:08 AM] Pocket: all hail scryptputer
  28. [4/25/2014 12:29:10 PM] Koontas: Shall we see what we can do to a new SHA coin tonight? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583591.0
  29. [4/25/2014 12:29:46 PM] Koontas: By "do" I mean mine the shit out of it for about an hour.
  30. [4/25/2014 12:30:12 PM] Koontas: Good little test to see how quick we can get on a new coin...
  31. [4/25/2014 1:04:10 PM] Logan: We can, I don't mind at all.
  32. [4/25/2014 1:37:50 PM] Logan: Pocket, can you get investor statement together this weekend?
  33. [4/25/2014 1:39:45 PM] Pocket: Thinking by Monday eve I'll have something worked up
  34. [4/25/2014 1:40:08 PM] Pocket: need a desktop to work on this
  35. [4/25/2014 4:22:45 PM] Pocket: ...Actually making pretty good progress on the investor statement today
  36. [4/25/2014 4:23:01 PM] Pocket: been ignoring poloniex trollbox, hope you guys have been hodling down the fort
  37. [4/25/2014 6:43:06 PM] Logan: I have been trolling hard
  38. [4/25/2014 11:06:56 PM] Pocket: Should investor update be html or image? Sending by email?
  39. [4/25/2014 11:07:52 PM] Logan: html. We will probably post it on the Noirbit forum and email burst?
  40. [4/26/2014 10:54:53 AM] Koontas: If I can't find James, I'm going to have to go to someone else to get it fixed....
  41. [4/26/2014 10:55:00 AM] Koontas: Someone like, Mullick....
  42. [4/26/2014 10:55:49 AM] Koontas: Does anyone object?
  43. [4/26/2014 12:10:47 PM] Logan: Nope, let's get it fixed
  44. [4/26/2014 12:11:36 PM] Koontas: Let me see if it's something he can take on or not.
  45. [4/26/2014 6:34:40 PM] Koontas: Barwizi, need to know what you've got planned to get the miners stable. Difficulty is skyrocketing so we need to take advantage while we can to make sure we at least break even on them. I know you said you'd give a few people access to restart remotely and that'll definitely help but if we're having power issues we're going to have to get that solved.
  46. [4/26/2014 6:35:04 PM] Koontas: If we gotta move them to a datacenter, we can do that. It would be cheaper to pay them than have any down time.
  47. [4/26/2014 6:45:48 PM] Logan: I would be open to moving it to a data center. I can do a comparison analysis between the downtime and data center costs.
  48. [4/26/2014 6:46:40 PM] Koontas: Less maintenance also means more time for Barwizi to focus.
  49. [4/26/2014 6:52:21 PM] Logan: True, the constant need for resets is taking a lot of his time.
  50. [4/27/2014 12:12:35 PM] Koontas: Guys, we don't want to get in the game of administering a pool do we?
  51. [4/27/2014 12:12:52 PM] Koontas: We want a pool/pools but we don't want to have to maintain them constantly, yes?
  52. [4/27/2014 12:17:43 PM] Koontas: I would propose that we let grndnpnd ("Bitcrypt consulting") deal with building and maintaining our pools. For the multipool, I think we should pay 1.25 btc + 25k NRS to build the pool and some percentage of the pool proceeds, to host/maintain, etc.
  53. [4/27/2014 12:17:49 PM] Koontas: What that percentage is, I don't know...
  54. [4/27/2014 12:26:38 PM] Koontas: Logan, would want you to do all of this negotiation here....
  55. [4/27/2014 12:28:37 PM] Logan: My understanding that he could not do a multi pool, no?
  56. [4/27/2014 12:29:07 PM] Koontas: Not from scratch, but we do have the latest code for carpediempool and he has someone who knows node.js which it's written in.
  57. [4/27/2014 12:29:19 PM] Koontas: He's actually pulling the code and installing locally now.
  58. [4/27/2014 12:31:25 PM] Koontas: We just need to figure out how we want this to go.... Do we want to just pay him to finish the code? Do we want them to finish and host? I do think if we're paying for the code to be finished we need to think about if we want to keep it open source or not (I'd vote no) and would need to determine who gets what if it's ever sold.
  59. [4/27/2014 12:31:31 PM] Koontas: Lots of considerations.
  60. [4/27/2014 12:38:56 PM] Logan: No but we can consider selling it to recoup the investment.
  61. [4/27/2014 12:39:45 PM] Logan: I would like to pay X and end up with pools, a multi pool and a support commitment for a period of time.
  62. [4/27/2014 12:43:05 PM] Koontas: Okay, so we own the multipool software once it's done and we host on our servers?
  63. [4/27/2014 12:49:30 PM] Logan: I think that could work.
  64. [4/27/2014 12:50:21 PM] Logan: Maybe we could get him to put everything in writing then we could consider it and make a counter offer.
  65. [4/27/2014 12:50:47 PM] Koontas: Ok, I'm gonna get the 3 of us in a room.
  66. [4/27/2014 12:51:06 PM] Logan: But I would need something in writing before we make an agreement so we are all on the same page.
  67. [4/27/2014 12:51:55 PM] Logan: We should also consider offering to run multi pools for new coins for a lump sum instead of selling code.
  68. [4/27/2014 12:52:22 PM] Koontas: Yea, lets talk this out a little more...
  69. [4/27/2014 12:53:58 PM] Logan: Problem with code is that it is really easy to have it go wild.
  70. [4/27/2014 12:54:15 PM] Koontas: I think it would be easiest if we work out a deal for them to host, maintain, etc.
  71. [4/27/2014 12:54:28 PM] Koontas: Pool maintenance is no small task.
  72. [4/27/2014 12:54:32 PM] Logan: Once it is out there then we paid a grand for something we don't own anymore.
  73. [4/27/2014 12:55:49 PM] Logan: Yeah, maybe we can space the payments over a period of time so that we have some assurance that they will maintain their end.
  74. [4/27/2014 12:57:57 PM] Koontas: What if we pay X for them to finish the pool code, then just give them a percentage of the pool profits to maintain? If any additional pools use the code and they host for them, NG gets X percentage of profits.
  75. [4/27/2014 12:59:58 PM] Logan: Yeah, plus we own the code and the new coins that are supported are approved by us. I want a minimum of our time to be invested but I think we need a lump sum for new coins to be added.
  76. [4/27/2014 1:00:32 PM] Argakiig: I like it
  77. [4/27/2014 1:00:33 PM] Logan: 1 BTC and you get your own multi. We would have them lined up.
  78. [4/27/2014 1:00:43 PM] Koontas: Ok, 1 min.
  79. [4/27/2014 1:01:25 PM] Argakiig: honestly having my own pools to maintain, and grndnpnds single login, on top of the NRS multipool was starting to sound like a very daunting task
  80. [4/27/2014 1:03:18 PM | Edited 1:03:34 PM] Koontas: oops
  81. [4/27/2014 1:03:49 PM] Logan: Koontas, you should do all the negotiations but state that you need my final approval on any agreements. That way we have an extra out or negotiation phase without going back on your word.
  82. [4/27/2014 1:06:01 PM] Koontas: - NoirGroup to pay BitCrypt Consulting X BTC to complete pool code
- Once completed, NoirGroup will retain 100% ownership of code
- BitCrypt Consulting to provide all hosting and support of pools
- BitCrypt Consulting to receive X% of all NRS pool profits
- BitCrypt has ability to host multipool for additional coins with NG approval, 1 BTC fee and X% of pool profits

  83. [4/27/2014 1:06:04 PM] Koontas: how does that look?
  84. [4/27/2014 1:07:21 PM] Koontas: will negotiate to pay in some BTC, some NRS
  85. [4/27/2014 1:08:43 PM] Logan: More NRS is better, obviously. Let’s put a number of years. Like they will host support for two years and then terms will be renegotiated.
  86. [4/27/2014 1:08:54 PM] Koontas: got it.
  87. [4/27/2014 1:09:07 PM] Logan: That way if we are unhappy then we can change it later.
  88. [4/27/2014 1:15:18 PM] Koontas: Logan if they host a new multipool, pay us 1 btc and we get approval, what % of the pool profits do we want to take?
  89. [4/27/2014 1:16:42 PM] Logan: It has to look really attractive otherwise they could take the code, set up a fake competitor, and we get nothing.
  90. [4/27/2014 1:17:46 PM] Logan: Maybe start with 75% and work down to 50% in exchange for lower upfront cost?
  91. [4/27/2014 1:18:36 PM] Koontas: ok

  92. [4/27/2014 1:19:18 PM] Logan: We want this to be as easy and attractive as possible.
  93. [4/27/2014 1:20:10 PM] Logan: In fact, we can give them the approval process and all arrangements with a small carve out for competing DACs.
  94. [4/27/2014 1:20:11 PM] Pocket: It doesn't make much sense for bitcrypt to just take it and run though, there's more incentive to be good with us
  95. [4/27/2014 1:21:34 PM] Logan: They would not tell us we were getting screwed, but they can easily set up a straw man company while maintaining our relationship.
  96. [4/27/2014 1:21:55 PM] Koontas: We'll work it out, stay tuned.
  97. [4/27/2014 1:22:48 PM] Pocket: Yeah but there aren't too many multipools, it would be suspicious for them to start popping up everywhere without going through us first
  98. [4/27/2014 1:23:40 PM] Logan: True but providing it would be tough. People do this all the time. You ever look up a service and there seems to be a lot of companies offering it? A lot of times that is just one or two companies. I did a case study on the rental property industry on this topic.
  99. [4/27/2014 1:23:49 PM] Pocket: But as is standard in crypto, no negatives to playing it safe
  100. [4/27/2014 1:24:52 PM] Pocket: Even if they start straw men Ops, in the short term we may still come out net positive
  101. [4/27/2014 1:25:07 PM] Logan: 9/10 people are assholes who want to sell your coins. Which is sad and short sighted. Like stealing a dollar when you could earn a thousand.
  102. [4/27/2014 1:25:35 PM] Pocket: And if we can get enough traction fast enough, bitcrypt stands to benefit more from riding our name
  103. [4/27/2014 1:30:48 PM] Logan: Totally. I just want it to appear as attractive in the future even if the short term is clearly in our favor.
  104. [4/27/2014 1:37:05 PM] Koontas: Arg, are you okay with yvg's proposal?
  105. [4/27/2014 1:38:30 PM] Pocket: Should we pay yvg
  106. [4/27/2014 1:38:34 PM] Pocket: Something
  107. [4/27/2014 1:38:35 PM] Argakiig: it makes sense
  108. [4/27/2014 1:38:37 PM] Pocket: Those guys
  109. [4/27/2014 1:39:13 PM] Pocket: Also, nrs dipping on Polo, maybe a low price buy wall
  110. [4/27/2014 1:39:16 PM] Koontas: Well, Barwizi offered 2btc to get it fixed...
  111. [4/27/2014 1:39:27 PM] Logan: We will but let's see what shakes out, we don't know if Barwizi offered something
  112. [4/27/2014 1:39:31 PM] Logan: What?
  113. [4/27/2014 1:39:37 PM] Koontas: it was in the chat...
  114. [4/27/2014 1:39:38 PM] Logan: You better be kidding
  115. [4/27/2014 1:39:51 PM] Logan: Fuck, how did I miss that one.
  116. [4/27/2014 1:39:55 PM] Pocket: Bids at 8k
  117. [4/27/2014 1:40:36 PM] Pocket: Don't think it will tank, but just in case
  118. [4/27/2014 1:40:48 PM] Logan: We will need to negotiate on that, we only have 3 BTC
  119. [4/27/2014 1:40:49 PM] Koontas: [4/26/14, 10:35:09 AM] Barwizi: 2 BTC bounty to fix the problems
  120. [4/26/14, 10:35:23 AM] Barwizi: i am still out of town and time is ticking
  121. [4/27/2014 1:41:49 PM] Logan: Okay, well let's see if they ask for that. I'm a little annoyed that we didn't discuss that in advance.
  122. [4/27/2014 1:42:27 PM] Pocket: Tough to ask a fire how much water it needs to go out
  123. [4/27/2014 1:42:34 PM] Pocket: Lol
  124. [4/27/2014 1:43:53 PM] Logan: No but we could have not provided a number. You never want to provide the first number, ever.
  125. [4/27/2014 1:45:36 PM] Pocket: Lol yeah
  126. [4/27/2014 1:46:22 PM] Logan: If afterwards he asks for 2 we could have said sorry, we can't do it
  127. [4/27/2014 1:52:08 PM] Logan: Let's table it for now. Please don't mention anything about it in chat.
  128. [4/27/2014 1:52:44 PM] Argakiig: honestly too I would like to get a look at the code changes before rolling it out.
  129. [4/27/2014 1:53:11 PM] Argakiig: I may not write c++ that well but I can read it decently
  130. [4/27/2014 5:04:43 PM] *** Koontas has changed the conversation topic to "URGENT NEW VOTE - https://tricider.com/en/admin/1Xemk/3fuNHa" ***
  131. [4/27/2014 5:05:04 PM] Koontas: Please vote on the deal with BitCrypt consulting to provide multipool code and pool support: https://tricider.com/en/admin/1Xemk/3fuNHa
  132. [4/27/2014 5:05:14 PM] Koontas: Terms are listed on the tricider page.
  133. [4/27/2014 5:06:04 PM] Argakiig: do we have 2 btc available?
  134. [4/27/2014 5:10:25 PM] Koontas: Yes.
  135. [4/27/2014 5:13:35 PM] Argakiig: are we needing to have this up and running now? or are we able to wait till PoW has run its course?
  136. [4/27/2014 5:14:23 PM] Koontas: we'll get it up now
  137. [4/27/2014 5:20:33 PM] Logan: Voted, this is a great deal for all parties involved.
  138. [4/27/2014 5:20:40 PM] Argakiig: (y)
  139. [4/27/2014 5:20:51 PM] Logan: The press opportunity alone is worth it.
  140. [4/27/2014 5:21:01 PM] Argakiig: yeah
  141. [4/27/2014 5:21:22 PM] Argakiig: bitcrypter.com is gonna go live first of the month. pending the on server proxy getting finished.
  142. [4/27/2014 5:29:37 PM] Koontas: Can at least one of you read this over? http://pastebin.com/QB5yvyNx
  143. [4/27/2014 5:29:41 PM] Koontas: Adjusting NIG to NG.
  144. [4/27/2014 5:30:18 PM] Koontas: Also, need to know if Barwizi should be the one to sign since he registered the company.
  145. [4/27/2014 5:31:39 PM] Barwizi: i'll sign when the vote is a go
  146. [4/27/2014 5:32:07 PM] Argakiig: I think we should specify the pool fee in the contract
  147. [4/27/2014 5:32:16 PM] Argakiig: as to what it should be
  148. [4/27/2014 5:32:44 PM] Koontas: or specify that it shall be agreed upon by both parties?
  149. [4/27/2014 5:32:48 PM] Argakiig: yeah
  150. [4/27/2014 5:32:50 PM] Koontas: ok
  151. [4/27/2014 5:33:44 PM] Argakiig: otherwise I think it looks good
  152. [4/27/2014 5:33:52 PM] Koontas: (y)
  153. [4/27/2014 5:34:07 PM] Koontas: This is big guys.
  154. [4/27/2014 5:34:20 PM] Argakiig: one more thing
  155. [4/27/2014 5:34:40 PM] Argakiig: do we want to add a cutoff for completion by?
  156. [4/27/2014 5:34:54 PM] Argakiig: as in if not completed by X terms are null and void?
  157. [4/27/2014 5:36:15 PM] Koontas: (y)
  158. [4/27/2014 5:38:07 PM] Logan: Yeah, it looks great. We should also require final approval of the product, not that I expect one that is not finished.
  159. [4/27/2014 5:39:01 PM] Koontas: Alright, now, we just need to get Logan access to some coin.
  160. [4/27/2014 5:46:28 PM] Logan: I feel like we really need to be timely with payment.
  161. [4/27/2014 5:46:37 PM] Argakiig: (y)
  162. [4/27/2014 5:46:48 PM] Koontas: Yes.
  163. [4/27/2014 5:47:15 PM] Koontas: I will get the addresses for Barwizi to pay upon signing the contract.
  164. [4/27/2014 5:47:36 PM] Logan: The last thing I would like is to be late and then have them play hardball with us on pool fees.
  165. [4/27/2014 5:48:10 PM] Pocket: Is this worth a yahoo/big distribution press release?
  166. [4/27/2014 5:48:20 PM] Pocket: Just within crypto community I think
  167. [4/27/2014 5:48:52 PM] Koontas: We need to go big within the community.
  168. [4/27/2014 5:49:09 PM] Logan: I would prefer to avoid all formal press releases until the legality of our type of organization has been determined.
  169. [4/27/2014 5:49:29 PM] Logan: The last thing I would like is to be made example of.
  170. [4/27/2014 5:49:30 PM] Pocket: K crypto only
  171. [4/27/2014 5:49:39 PM] Pocket: Will work on a presser
  172. [4/27/2014 5:50:08 PM] Logan: Let's delay the presser on the scrypt miner until next week.
  173. [4/27/2014 5:50:13 PM] Pocket: Also have a draft of investor update will share after making it pretty tomorrow
  174. [4/27/2014 5:50:23 PM] Koontas: (y)
  175. [4/27/2014 5:50:50 PM] Pocket: Will include these updates and our recent work into both investor update and multi pool presser
  176. [4/27/2014 5:50:52 PM] Logan: I would like to delay that one so we don't have too much good news coming out at once.
  177. [4/27/2014 5:51:12 PM] Pocket: K will keep mining out
  178. [4/27/2014 5:51:14 PM] Koontas: yep
  179. [4/27/2014 5:51:38 PM] Koontas: We need to go BIG with this pool PR in the crypto blogs...
  180. [4/27/2014 5:51:49 PM] Pocket: I will show u guys the different materials for review and distribution method to be used tomorrow
  181. [4/27/2014 5:51:53 PM] Koontas: We should have NRS we can pay bounties with.
  182. [4/27/2014 5:52:00 PM] Pocket: I do need some NRS for the blogs
  183. [4/27/2014 5:52:19 PM] Pocket: Usually not too much, unless we go to a decent site then it will cost some
  184. [4/27/2014 5:52:20 PM] Koontas: Will work on that for you pocket, gotta get some from barwizi to logan.
  185. [4/27/2014 5:52:54 PM] Pocket: I gotta take the girl to dinner, Nice work this week
  186. [4/27/2014 5:53:02 PM] Koontas: Enjoy Pocket.
  187. [4/27/2014 5:53:28 PM] Logan: Honestly, we should divide it into three portions. CEO, coo, CFO. Reduces moral hazard risk.
  188. [4/27/2014 5:53:49 PM] Koontas: in the contract? 3 signatures?
  189. [4/27/2014 6:20:44 PM] Logan: No
  190. [4/27/2014 6:20:57 PM] Logan: All the NRS, BTC.
  191. [4/27/2014 6:22:04 PM] Logan: We should divide it up to ensure reasonable payment speed and make it so no one person can run off with it.
  192. [4/27/2014 6:22:25 PM] Logan: Less important now, but in a few years could be really significant
  193. [4/27/2014 6:24:13 PM] Logan: Okay, who is playing Rambo on poloniex?
  194. [4/27/2014 6:24:32 PM] Logan: We really shouldn't do moves like this before annoucements, it makes everyone scream insider trading
  195. [4/27/2014 6:24:58 PM] Logan: drop the 1 BTC wall too
  196. [4/27/2014 6:25:24 PM] Koontas: Not I.
  197. [4/27/2014 6:26:28 PM] Koontas: If we can get something released within a few weeks of the pool going out we'll be in REAL good shape.
  198. [4/27/2014 6:37:33 PM] Koontas: Barwizi, grndnpnd will need your name for the contact. I'll let you work that out with him.
  199. [4/27/2014 6:44:09 PM] Logan: I am pretty upset that we had someone in our inner circle take advantage of the insider knowledge to move the market. That is not cool because it opens us up to significant reputation risk.
  200. [4/27/2014 6:44:35 PM] Koontas: what do you mean?
  201. [4/27/2014 6:45:52 PM] Logan: I mean flooding the market with almost 2 BTC of buys just before a major announcement looks terrible.
  202. [4/27/2014 6:46:39 PM] Barwizi: true
  203. [4/27/2014 6:46:53 PM] Barwizi: but are we sure its from inside the group
  204. [4/27/2014 6:47:01 PM] Barwizi: ?
  205. [4/27/2014 6:47:05 PM] Koontas: Well, I sure as hell don't have 2btc on any exchange...lol
  206. [4/27/2014 6:47:40 PM] Logan: The timing is incredibly suspect
  207. [4/27/2014 6:49:19 PM] Logan: I am just asking that we don't do stuff like this because the minute that we make an annoucement and people look back at the last day of trades and notice big buy moves. Well people will scream insider and it looks terrible.
  208. [4/27/2014 6:50:02 PM] Koontas: agreed
  209. [4/27/2014 6:50:48 PM] Argakiig: I dont have 2btc either :/
  210. [4/27/2014 7:10:13 PM] Logan: Well we will need to delay announcement to get some trades between us and someone buying 1/3 of the 24hr volume all at once...
  211. [4/27/2014 7:10:53 PM] Logan: Is anyone feeling my irritation here? Because I am pretty irritated.
  212. [4/27/2014 7:12:03 PM] Pocket: I have no liquid at poloniex
  213. [4/27/2014 7:12:05 PM] Koontas: I am, and I agree.
  214. [4/27/2014 7:12:19 PM] Pocket: But it is no bueno
  215. [4/27/2014 7:15:00 PM] Logan: Can we all please agree that this is the last time one of us does something like that?
  216. [4/27/2014 7:15:26 PM] Logan: You want to throw your BTC at NRS, I love you for it but please please don't do it right before a major announcement.
  217. [4/27/2014 7:17:56 PM] Pocket: Should be something everyone should do without needing a memo
  218. [4/27/2014 7:18:10 PM] Koontas: ^ Agreed.
  219. [4/27/2014 7:18:15 PM] Koontas: Also here's the updated contract: http://pastebin.com/6GNWU7mY
  220. [4/27/2014 7:27:30 PM] Logan: Should the payment be immediate or upon completion on the pool?
  221. [4/27/2014 7:28:55 PM] Koontas: the 2btc + 10k should be immediate...
  222. [4/27/2014 7:29:02 PM] Koontas: i'm not worried about them getting it done to be honest
  223. [4/27/2014 7:31:19 PM] Logan: http://pastebin.com/Q2ZphggR
  224. http://pastebin.com/WdbTgi91
  225. [4/27/2014 7:31:30 PM] Logan: Two small clarifying changes that I want in there.
  226. [4/27/2014 7:32:08 PM] Logan: one sec, I noticed a problem with section 4
  227. [4/27/2014 7:32:11 PM] Logan: wait a bit
  228. [4/27/2014 7:32:35 PM] Logan: jesus, it is like a drunk monkey wrote this :P
  229. [4/27/2014 7:32:44 PM] Logan: Notice the emote, I never use emotes
  230. [4/27/2014 7:32:57 PM] Koontas: haha
  231. [4/27/2014 7:51:38 PM] Logan: http://pastebin.com/TzZXGFs8
  232. [4/27/2014 7:51:48 PM] Logan: Okay, those are all the changes I wanted to make.
  233. [4/27/2014 7:52:09 PM] Logan: Nothing major that would break the deal but please review it to make sure that you agree.
  234. [4/27/2014 7:52:37 PM] Logan: actually perhaps you could combine all of them upon review before forwarding it to the other side.
  235. [4/27/2014 7:54:19 PM] Koontas: [4/27/14, 7:54:09 PM] Grndnpnd: - any activity that BCC may be involved with or on behalf of an individual or group that could reasonably be considered a competitor of NG.
  236. [4/27/14, 7:54:13 PM] Grndnpnd: concerned about that
  237. [4/27/2014 7:54:57 PM] Koontas: im a consulting firm i will be workig with your competitors if they want me sorry
  238. [4/27/2014 7:55:45 PM] Logan: We don't mind you doing it, we just want to know about it. This is a disclosure section not a 'non-compete' agreement.
  239. [4/27/2014 7:57:09 PM] Logan: does that make sense? I think it is reasonable to want to know about it.
  240. [4/27/2014 7:57:20 PM] Logan: Tell him we are thinking other DACs
  241. [4/27/2014 7:59:00 PM] Koontas: Logan, I need you to work this out with him if possible.
  242. [4/27/2014 7:59:09 PM] Koontas: It'll be easier for you two to talk than me play middle man.
  243. [4/27/2014 7:59:22 PM] Koontas: just to wrap up these final terms
  244. [4/28/2014 11:16:19 AM] Pocket: it's issues like forks that make me wonder why no dev has implemented in-client auto updating
  245. [4/28/2014 11:16:26 AM] Pocket: the way game patches are installed
  246. [4/28/2014 11:19:58 AM] Koontas: agreed
  247. [4/28/2014 11:30:51 AM] Pocket: gentlemen
  248. [4/28/2014 11:30:59 AM] Pocket: here is the first draft for General Fund Shareholder Update
  249. [4/28/2014 11:31:34 AM] Pocket: it's not complete, I need your contributions on what updates are coming in the future, and can also use some content control for what we should/shouldn't include
  250. [4/28/2014 11:31:38 AM] Pocket: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GjZluiX1mVIsGlLsijHfEO2QXfhZPBZUo6moGtXfoqA/edit?usp=sharing
  251. [4/28/2014 11:45:16 AM] Pocket: yvg keeps using the word "sanify", is that the correct word/spelling?
  252. [4/28/2014 11:49:56 AM] Pocket: please review the general fund update and let me know what i need to change/add/remove
  253. [4/28/2014 11:50:25 AM] Barwizi: its nerd jargon for sanitizing the chain
  254. [4/28/2014 11:50:48 AM] Barwizi: tag all the tweets with #sanify
  255. [4/28/2014 11:50:57 AM] Pocket: lol
  256. [4/28/2014 11:50:59 AM] Pocket: ok
  257. [4/28/2014 11:53:47 AM] Pocket: so the April shareholder update is pretty much done, i need to know if you guys have updates i am missing, or if i said too much, or whatever
  258. [4/28/2014 11:54:10 AM] Pocket: i am gonna reduce it a bit for general Noirds update, removing general fund stuff
  259. [4/28/2014 12:42:01 PM] Logan: I'm feeling that the multi pool news is getting lost in the rest of the news. Let’s take it out and do a separate announcement in a day or two once it is signed and we have a timeline.
  260. [4/28/2014 12:42:26 PM] Argakiig: ^
  261. [4/28/2014 12:42:28 PM] Pocket: agreed
  262. [4/28/2014 12:42:52 PM] Logan: Other than that, I think it looks great.
  263. [4/28/2014 1:50:05 PM] Argakiig: k so dont know what yvg1900's problem is
  264. [4/28/2014 1:50:09 PM] Argakiig: but my daemon are running fine
  265. [4/28/2014 1:50:13 PM] Argakiig: and my wallet are running fine
  266. [4/28/2014 1:50:15 PM] Argakiig: on main chain
  267. [4/28/2014 1:50:29 PM] Argakiig: but his 'isolated test chain' is not working properly
  268. [4/28/2014 1:51:59 PM] Koontas: What is this CPUMiner stuff in our code? > CPUMiner : proof-of-stake block found
  269. > ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffeeee
  270. >
  271. > hash ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffeeee <
  272. > 0fffff0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
  273. [4/28/2014 1:56:30 PM] Pocket: what response do i give people asking about pre-mine / insta-mine
  274. [4/28/2014 1:56:55 PM] Argakiig: there was one premine block number 10, ask bar about details
  275. [4/28/2014 2:06:44 PM] Logan: Oh boy
  276. [4/28/2014 2:06:56 PM] Argakiig: hrm?
  277. [4/28/2014 2:07:48 PM] Logan: It would be nice to avoid the stain of any premine, that never really goes away.
  278. [4/28/2014 2:09:12 PM] Pocket: how about calling it a "test-mine"
  279. [4/28/2014 2:09:59 PM] Koontas: lol, no
  280. [4/28/2014 2:10:02 PM] Koontas: be honest about it
  281. [4/28/2014 2:10:12 PM] Pocket: ok, a fin-mine
  282. [4/28/2014 2:10:13 PM] Pocket: fun-mine
  283. [4/28/2014 2:10:30 PM] Koontas: no, it's a premine to support dev efforts. period.
  284. [4/28/2014 2:12:39 PM] Pocket: oh, also, isn't it a problem that ypool is like...80% of the network
  285. [4/28/2014 2:23:47 PM] Argakiig: so, do i commit changes
  286. [4/28/2014 2:23:53 PM] Argakiig: and finish builds?
  287. [4/28/2014 2:24:20 PM] Argakiig: I am not experiencing any issues with a blank wallet, interested in seeing if it locks up otherwise
  288. [4/28/2014 2:24:36 PM] Argakiig: he said the other day his testnet was generating PoS blocks fine
  289. [4/28/2014 2:24:52 PM] Koontas: i have no objection if you think it's the time
  290. [4/28/2014 2:27:55 PM] Argakiig: k so to keep from breaking the chain and give james a chance to look over PoS I am thinking of releasing src with PoS commented out
  291. [4/28/2014 2:28:17 PM] Argakiig: thoughts on that?
  292. [4/28/2014 2:33:05 PM] Argakiig: current thought is keep git as is till fix is verified
  293. [4/28/2014 2:34:51 PM] Logan: Not my area of expertise, I would defer to your judgment.
  294. [4/28/2014 2:35:31 PM] Argakiig: ok, unless barwizi says otherwise Git will stay as is until update is complete and verified
  295. [4/28/2014 2:43:24 PM] Koontas: Logan, we're going to need accounts at MintPal, Cryptsy and Poloniex with the API and private keys. Is that somethink you'd like to handle?
  296. [4/28/2014 2:48:36 PM] Logan: I'm going to be bogged down with taxes until the end of the month.
  297. [4/28/2014 2:48:57 PM] Logan: So normally yes but for the sake of time, no.
  298. [4/28/2014 2:48:58 PM] Koontas: Okay, will handle. Password will be changed every 3 days on all accounts.
  299. [4/28/2014 2:49:22 PM] Koontas: Logan will make sure you also have access since it's financial info.
  300. [4/28/2014 2:50:11 PM | Edited 2:57:05 PM] Argakiig: k
  301. [4/28/2014 2:54:13 PM] Koontas: yes
  302. [4/28/2014 2:57:19 PM] Argakiig: cool
  303. [4/28/2014 2:57:22 PM] Argakiig: i was just wondering
  304. [4/28/2014 3:06:50 PM] Koontas: Also, for the record, webmail fucking blows.
  305. [4/28/2014 3:07:10 PM] Pocket: imap to thunderbird
  306. [4/28/2014 3:07:20 PM] Argakiig: you got a tablet or phone?
  307. [4/28/2014 3:07:25 PM] Koontas: i got it all
  308. [4/28/2014 3:07:35 PM] Argakiig: need help with setup on those?
  309. [4/28/2014 3:07:40 PM] Argakiig: i do it everyday
  310. [4/28/2014 3:07:48 PM] Argakiig: you could say its my job
  311. [4/28/2014 3:07:50 PM] Koontas: nah, just haven't done it yet
  312. [4/28/2014 3:07:55 PM] Argakiig: and i would say yeah part of it
  313. [4/28/2014 4:02:56 PM] Logan: Thank you Koontas. It would be nice to have a m/n on everything.
  314. [4/28/2014 4:03:27 PM] Logan: One of my staff misplaced a $6 million dollar cheque today.
  315. [4/28/2014 4:03:55 PM] Logan: Fml, a piece of paper is really screwing up my day.
  316. [4/28/2014 4:10:23 PM] Pocket: $6million checks don't really get "misplaced" lol
  317. [4/28/2014 4:14:15 PM] Pocket: so the general fund update is for end of April, noirshares update is for same release time to non general fund members, and an update beginning of May for the multipool?
  318. [4/28/2014 4:19:55 PM] Logan: Yeah, did you remove the teaser?
  319. [4/28/2014 4:20:47 PM] Logan: Apparently it was paper clipped to the return. I don't think someone took it, you literally can't deposit a cheque like that.
  320. [4/28/2014 4:21:09 PM] Logan: Most cheque fraud is at money mart
  321. [4/28/2014 4:23:39 PM] Pocket: yes i did
  322. [4/28/2014 4:34:43 PM] Pocket: is this ok to include in the shareholder update
  323. [4/28/2014 4:34:47 PM] Pocket: The General Fund is currently sitting on a small stack of BTC and a relatively large stack of NRS. A vote will be passed around to help determine our next plan of action with group funds.
  324. [4/28/2014 4:45:16 PM] Argakiig: woah pocket
  325. [4/28/2014 4:45:24 PM] Argakiig: we dont have a fix, and we didnt hardfork
  326. [4/28/2014 4:45:46 PM] Pocket: ok
  327. [4/28/2014 4:45:59 PM] Pocket: what happened then? there was a lot of technical stuff being thrown around
  328. [4/28/2014 4:46:37 PM] Pocket: there was a 51% issue with ypool
  329. [4/28/2014 4:46:42 PM] Pocket: and bug with PoS in the awllet
  330. [4/28/2014 4:46:47 PM] Argakiig: there was a fork, wasnt a 52% isusse
  331. [4/28/2014 4:46:54 PM] Argakiig: there is a bug with POS
  332. [4/28/2014 4:47:06 PM] Argakiig: hardfork though usually means we forced the fork
  333. [4/28/2014 4:47:12 PM] Pocket: oh ok, so just fork
  334. [4/28/2014 4:47:20 PM] Argakiig: yes.
  335. [4/28/2014 4:47:23 PM] Argakiig: we are working to resolve it
  336. [4/28/2014 4:47:35 PM] Argakiig: I do not believe the fix from yvg will actually fix POS
  337. [4/28/2014 4:47:44 PM] Argakiig: and he is having some issues with his testnet
  338. [4/28/2014 4:48:14 PM] Argakiig: so i havent pushed any changes to git
  339. [4/28/2014 4:48:27 PM] Argakiig: james is also going to be looking at the code as well.
  340. [4/28/2014 4:48:42 PM] Argakiig: though when talking to others james wishes to remain anonymous
  341. [4/28/2014 4:54:17 PM] Argakiig: anyone feeling we should do otherwise let me know, I will consider this the game plan though till one of two things happnes, YVG says fixed or we find another verifiable solution
  342. [4/28/2014 4:56:35 PM] Logan: Okay, I'm on board with this.
  343. [4/28/2014 4:57:34 PM] Koontas: (y)
  344. [4/28/2014 4:58:33 PM] Koontas: I got noirpool.com.
  345. [4/28/2014 4:58:48 PM] Argakiig: very nice
  346. [4/28/2014 4:58:52 PM] Pocket: (y)
  347. [4/28/2014 5:38:00 PM] Koontas: Cass, I'd like you to have some input on the pool look and feel.
  348. [4/28/2014 5:48:43 PM] Argakiig: i think that is a great idea
  349. [4/28/2014 7:22:41 PM] Logan: Good news, we found the cheque
  350. [4/28/2014 7:22:55 PM] Koontas: (y)
  351. [4/28/2014 8:53:51 PM] Argakiig: 32 and 64bit .exe and .zips are readdy
  352. [4/28/2014 8:54:34 PM] Argakiig: any word from tristian
  353. [4/28/2014 8:54:39 PM] Koontas: he's updated
  354. [4/28/2014 8:54:49 PM] Argakiig: to the newest one?
  355. [4/28/2014 8:54:50 PM] Koontas: oh wait, lemme see last thread
  356. [4/28/2014 8:55:06 PM] Argakiig: and we need a mac QT
  357. [4/28/2014 8:55:08 PM] Argakiig: or wait?
  358. [4/28/2014 8:55:16 PM] Argakiig: doesnt seem fair to launch without it
  359. [4/28/2014 8:55:40 PM] Koontas: just sent you the latest
  360. [4/28/2014 8:55:45 PM] Argakiig: k
  361. [4/28/2014 8:55:51 PM] Koontas: we need the mac...
  362. [4/28/2014 10:40:52 PM] Koontas: I haven't really been talking about the pool much in the other chat, but I've been talking to grndnpnd and his dev Matt pretty much all of today...making some great progress.
  363. [4/28/2014 10:41:38 PM] Logan: Have they proceeded on the basis that our agreement is solid?
  364. [4/28/2014 10:42:09 PM] Koontas: yes.
  365. [4/28/2014 10:42:55 PM] Koontas: One thing I'm going to need everyones help on...determining which coins the pool should mine based on profitability and difficulty...
  366. [4/28/2014 10:43:23 PM] Logan: I thought they had an algo for that?
  367. [4/28/2014 10:43:38 PM] Logan: One of the best someone said
  368. [4/28/2014 10:43:58 PM] Argakiig: the algo picks from a bank of coins
  369. [4/28/2014 10:44:09 PM] Koontas: We need to choose the bank, but it can be adjusted...
  370. [4/28/2014 10:44:52 PM] Koontas: We'll do as the other pools do any keep some "anonymous", i've already made sure that's possible
  371. [4/28/2014 10:47:20 PM] Argakiig: feel free to look over http://puu.sh/8rUSa.txt
  372. [4/28/2014 10:47:31 PM] Argakiig: and send me any input on points that need clarity
  373. [4/28/2014 10:47:43 PM] Argakiig: Im out for now
  374. [4/28/2014 10:47:50 PM] Argakiig: so if you come up with anything PM me
  375. [4/28/2014 10:48:17 PM] Pocket: looks like standard procedure
  376. [4/28/2014 10:48:33 PM] Argakiig: cept for importprivkey and dumpprivkey
  377. [4/28/2014 10:48:42 PM] Argakiig: also deleting wallet.dat if you do that
  378. [4/28/2014 10:49:00 PM] Pocket: keys :(
  379. [4/28/2014 10:49:02 PM] Koontas: i've never had to dump and import (yn)
  380. [4/28/2014 10:49:02 PM] Argakiig: and re-dling the chain if you have a blockhash
  381. [4/28/2014 10:49:19 PM] Argakiig: start with wallet.dat backup
  382. [4/28/2014 10:50:13 PM] Argakiig: crap logan
  383. [4/28/2014 10:50:42 PM] Argakiig: just realized i hadnt restarted the price watch script when i restarted my server the other day
  384. [4/28/2014 10:51:39 PM] Argakiig: so we are missing some time :/
  385. [4/28/2014 10:51:50 PM] Koontas: its okay....no shares for sale today anyways
  386. [4/28/2014 10:52:20 PM] Argakiig: yeah still
  387. [4/28/2014 10:52:59 PM] Argakiig: 4/28 8amUTC to 4/29 5:50UTC
  388. [4/28/2014 10:53:44 PM] Barwizi: for those who may want to offload some gen fund shares
  389. [4/28/2014 10:54:07 PM] Argakiig: huzzah Barwizi is alive :P
  390. [4/28/2014 10:54:41 PM] Barwizi: you must calculate @ buy price + 15% and then add your % over toatl% of BTC in the miner account
  391. [4/28/2014 10:55:02 PM] Barwizi: 'llo
  392. [4/28/2014 10:55:06 PM] Koontas: lol
  393. [4/28/2014 10:55:30 PM] Koontas: Barwizi, contract is being signed today. Need to get logan some BTC and NRS pretty quickly.
  394. [4/28/2014 10:55:52 PM] Barwizi: ok, i'll just need addresses
  395. [4/28/2014 10:56:04 PM] Barwizi: but we are paying before completion...
  396. [4/28/2014 10:56:17 PM] Koontas: not 100%
  397. [4/28/2014 10:56:36 PM] Koontas: they'll finish, i have no doubt about that barwizi
  398. [4/28/2014 10:56:48 PM] Koontas: they need this partnership probably more than we do
  399. [4/28/2014 10:58:08 PM] Barwizi: yes, that something important
  400. [4/28/2014 10:58:21 PM] Barwizi: i think we need more partners
  401. [4/28/2014 10:58:30 PM] Barwizi: it will ease our burden
  402. [4/28/2014 10:59:27 PM] Koontas: Need 2 BTC + 10K NRS: NRS: 9iq6W1LbtcTvJz4r1nQ1Rm69r9RkauVuH8 BTC: 1JVexb7QvuEdDSzeowX1SKHz5LQFhPK9eh
  403. [4/28/2014 10:59:31 PM] Koontas: I will be signing the contract.
  404. [4/28/2014 10:59:44 PM] Koontas: They're already kicking ass.
  405. [4/28/2014 11:26:23 PM] Argakiig: woooh
  406. [4/28/2014 11:26:28 PM] Argakiig: got ahold of James
  407. [4/28/2014 11:26:44 PM] Argakiig: he will be building Mac Qt's
  408. [4/28/2014 11:38:07 PM] Pocket: the pool should could as a DAC ya?
  409. [4/28/2014 11:38:15 PM] Pocket: or DAS
  410. [4/28/2014 11:42:00 PM] Pocket: ish
  411. [4/28/2014 11:42:13 PM] Pocket: maybe not worth calling it one in the press release :|
  412. [4/28/2014 11:44:03 PM] Barwizi: NRS paid
  413. [4/28/2014 11:44:32 PM] Argakiig: It will be dac
  414. [4/28/2014 11:44:34 PM] Barwizi: BTC will come soon
  415. [4/28/2014 11:44:42 PM] Barwizi: pool is DAC
  416. [4/28/2014 11:44:43 PM] Argakiig: The pool that is
  417. [4/28/2014 11:44:59 PM] Pocket: worth calling it that in press release?
  418. [4/28/2014 11:45:08 PM] Argakiig: Yeah
  419. [4/28/2014 11:45:20 PM] Pocket: other coins have multipools but don't call it DAC, but considering we're not a coin as much as DAC..
  420. [4/28/2014 11:45:27 PM] Pocket: ok
  421. [4/29/2014 8:35:27 AM] Logan: What about doing paid votes for adding coins to the multi pool instead of a fixed price? Just thinking about how Caishen paid 10 BTC to get added to mintpal.
  422. [4/29/2014 8:52:08 AM] Pocket: $$$$
  423. [4/29/2014 9:47:59 AM] Koontas: That's an interesting idea. I kinda like it!
  424. [4/29/2014 10:27:08 AM] Barwizi: [quote author=ECF link=action=profile;u=309573 date=1398791499]
  425. Hello,
  426. Glad to inform you that your coin have already been on the voting pool and our voting rule of ALTCOIN exchange has been changed as follows:
  427. an effective vote will cost 10 ECFC； repeating vote are allowed； the trade will be open as soon as the voting reach 1000.
  428.  
  429. Here are the ways of getting ECFC:
  430. 1. buy the ECFC through our [url=http://www.ecoinfund.com/market=41]ECFC/BTC[/url] or [url=http://www.ecoinfund.com/market=42]ECFC/LTC[/url] market.
  431. 2. make your community players to earn 20 free ECFC by taking part into our [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=501030.msg6456253#msg6456253]GIVEAWAY[/url].
  432.  
  433.  
  434. Best Regards,
  435. EcoinFund Team
  436. [/quote]
  437. [4/29/2014 10:30:41 AM] Pocket: WOW those volumes
  438. [4/29/2014 10:30:50 AM] Pocket: wait
  439. [4/29/2014 10:30:50 AM] Pocket: nvm
  440. [4/29/2014 10:30:56 AM] Pocket: those are volume in those coins, not btc i think lol
  441. [4/29/2014 10:31:48 AM] Koontas: So they basically want you to buy their fee shares and use them to get on the exchange...
  442. [4/29/2014 10:31:51 AM] Koontas: Pass.
  443. [4/29/2014 10:34:29 AM] Barwizi: ;)
  444. [4/29/2014 10:40:40 AM] Logan: Koontas, maybe we should float the idea their way once it is completed.
  445. [4/29/2014 10:41:02 AM] Pocket: yeah after the multipool is built on agreement terms
  446. [4/29/2014 10:41:10 AM] Pocket: then can add the new feature
  447. [4/29/2014 10:41:25 AM] Pocket: don't want things to get messy in the middle of dev
  448. [4/29/2014 11:49:44 AM] Logan: Exactly, plus we avoid the "that will cost extra"
  449. [4/29/2014 11:53:29 AM] Pocket: unless...it's like...something that might be messy to add afterwards...and should be added now?
  450. [4/29/2014 11:58:39 AM] Logan: This is just a voting mechanism
  451. [4/29/2014 11:59:02 AM] Logan: It wouldn't even tie into the pool
  452. [4/29/2014 11:59:11 AM] Pocket: ya ok
  453. [4/29/2014 12:20:51 PM] Logan: I definitely don't want to rock the boat while the deal is unsigned and unpaid.
  454. [4/29/2014 2:14:33 PM] Koontas: Just want to mention that we should be cautious about what we speak about in the general NRS chat. Anything we don't want PUBLIC should not be mentioned there and can be discussed in here.
  455. [4/29/2014 2:15:09 PM] Pocket: any examples
  456. [4/29/2014 2:15:37 PM] Koontas: New deals, ideas we don't want public, anything financial...
  457. [4/29/2014 2:16:07 PM] Pocket: anything we've said already
  458. [4/29/2014 2:16:58 PM] Koontas: nope
  459. [4/29/2014 2:17:08 PM] Pocket: ok
  460. [4/29/2014 4:10:48 PM] Pocket: exchange functionality could be built into the multipool
  461. [4/29/2014 4:10:55 PM] Pocket: could the multipool be built into the wallet
  462. [4/29/2014 4:11:02 PM] Pocket: mining wallet
  463. [4/29/2014 4:11:17 PM] Pocket: wallet that mines, exchanges, pools, all the things
  464. [4/29/2014 4:11:37 PM] Koontas: you've got some far out ideas...
  465. [4/29/2014 4:11:43 PM] Koontas: i'm not sure that's possible
  466. [4/29/2014 4:53:47 PM] Pocket: we'd have to put a browser in the wallet maybe
  467. [4/29/2014 4:54:22 PM] Pocket: NoirFox dark browser, can visit NoirPool dark multipool, inside NoirSpace wallet, dark money wallet
  468. [4/29/2014 4:55:06 PM] Pocket: NoirSpace becomes like an OS
  469. [4/29/2014 4:55:10 PM] Pocket: of money stuffs
  470. [4/29/2014 5:16:13 PM] Argakiig: did we decide on what coins for the multipool to pull from?
  471. [4/29/2014 5:16:55 PM] Koontas: I gave him a few to start with, but we'll need to round out the list.
  472. [4/29/2014 5:17:20 PM] Koontas: also, sshhhhhh: http://www.noirpool.com/
  473. [4/29/2014 5:23:28 PM] Logan: Looks great but do people care what the backend is?
  474. [4/29/2014 5:40:54 PM] Koontas: oh no, it's not staying like that.
  475. [4/29/2014 5:40:57 PM] Koontas: trust me. ;)
  476. [4/29/2014 5:41:03 PM] Koontas: that's just outta the box
  477. [4/29/2014 5:41:59 PM] Koontas: Just so everyone is aware - I will be out of town for my first anniversary Thursday night - Sunday afternoon. I WILL NOT be on at all during that time...
  478. [4/29/2014 7:19:40 PM | Edited 7:29:17 PM] Koontas: We currently have these 5 coins on the pool: DOGE, SXC (low diff), MEC (low diff), LTC and AUR
  479. [4/29/2014 7:19:44 PM] Koontas: Any other suggestions??
  480. [4/29/2014 8:09:10 PM] Pocket: Suggest asking chocobo
  481. [4/29/2014 8:21:05 PM] Koontas: Will do.
  482. [4/29/2014 8:21:13 PM] Koontas: USDE looks like a good one, profitable and decent volume.
  483. [4/29/2014 8:55:28 PM] Koontas: What do you guys think? http://puu.sh/8t5x2.jpg
  484. [4/29/2014 8:55:49 PM] Argakiig: I like it
  485. [4/29/2014 10:19:31 PM] Barwizi: Arg, please push all updates to git and release download links
  486. [4/29/2014 10:19:42 PM] Argakiig: did
  487. [4/29/2014 10:19:47 PM] Argakiig: already taken care of
  488. [4/29/2014 10:19:49 PM] Barwizi: Pocket, are you ready with the statement?
  489. [4/29/2014 10:19:59 PM] Pocket: which statement
  490. [4/29/2014 10:20:01 PM] Argakiig: james is making mac QT
  491. [4/29/2014 10:20:12 PM] Argakiig: we have successful transition
  492. [4/29/2014 10:20:31 PM] Barwizi: lol, statement about the need to use new version
  493. [4/29/2014 10:20:33 PM] Barwizi: oh, cool
  494. [4/29/2014 10:20:38 PM] Koontas: everything's already posted
  495. [4/29/2014 10:20:40 PM] Koontas: and done
  496. [4/29/2014 10:20:42 PM] Koontas: ;)
  497. [4/29/2014 10:20:42 PM] Barwizi: i woke up just now
  498. [4/29/2014 10:20:43 PM] Pocket: yeah everything's already done
  499. [4/29/2014 10:20:45 PM] Argakiig: yeah we got you Bar :P
  500. [4/29/2014 10:20:49 PM] Pocket: just download your new wallet barwizi
  501. [4/29/2014 10:21:02 PM] Pocket: and get your godlike stake
  502. [4/29/2014 10:21:12 PM] Pocket: which I assume your stake will be godlike
  503. [4/29/2014 10:21:19 PM] Koontas: and, don't forget to send me btc
  504. [4/29/2014 10:21:22 PM] Pocket: because my puny NRS stash was giving me pretty sweet stakes
  505. [4/29/2014 10:21:24 PM | Edited 10:21:36 PM] Argakiig: so you can go back to sleep knowing we rocked it ;p
  506. [4/29/2014 10:21:41 PM] Koontas: lol i got 1 stake transaction for .026 and it didn't confirm
  507. [4/29/2014 10:21:45 PM] Barwizi: had a dream we were standing on top of the world wearing Guy fawkes masks smoking 100 dollar bills
  508. [4/29/2014 10:21:58 PM] Argakiig: I can see it
  509. [4/29/2014 10:22:06 PM] Pocket: only cuz 100s are as big as they come
  510. [4/29/2014 10:22:51 PM] Argakiig: pocket
  511. [4/29/2014 10:22:58 PM] Argakiig: you wanna see some sweet NRS stake?
  512. [4/29/2014 10:23:01 PM] Pocket: lol
  513. [4/29/2014 10:23:06 PM] Argakiig: http://puu.sh/8t9FP.png
  514. [4/29/2014 10:23:16 PM] Koontas: jesus
  515. [4/29/2014 10:23:18 PM] Argakiig: check out that beauty
  516. [4/29/2014 10:23:19 PM] Pocket: lol
  517. [4/29/2014 10:23:22 PM] Pocket: wow
  518. [4/29/2014 10:23:25 PM] Barwizi: unless we use the 5000 russian note ~ 150 USD
  519. [4/29/2014 10:23:43 PM] Pocket: why did it do that
  520. [4/29/2014 10:23:45 PM] Koontas: :D
  521. [4/29/2014 10:23:47 PM] Argakiig: koontas
  522. [4/29/2014 10:23:47 PM] Pocket: I have one big stake at the beginning too
  523. [4/29/2014 10:23:50 PM] Koontas: yo
  524. [4/29/2014 10:23:56 PM] Argakiig: what is your block count?
  525. [4/29/2014 10:24:29 PM] Koontas: current 23413 / set 23217
  526. [4/29/2014 10:24:38 PM] Argakiig: oh
  527. [4/29/2014 10:24:41 PM] Argakiig: wait you wont
  528. [4/29/2014 10:24:41 PM] Pocket: i'm at 23461
  529. [4/29/2014 10:24:45 PM] Argakiig: though should
  530. [4/29/2014 10:24:45 PM] Argakiig: hrm
  531. [4/29/2014 10:24:46 PM] Koontas: lol
  532. [4/29/2014 10:24:57 PM] Argakiig: you did everything to a single address how long ago?
  533. [4/29/2014 10:25:10 PM] Koontas: eh less than 2 weeks
  534. [4/29/2014 10:25:18 PM] Argakiig: should still stake
  535. [4/29/2014 10:25:25 PM] Koontas: ah well, we'll see
  536. [4/29/2014 10:25:32 PM] Argakiig: and that will be one huge chunk
  537. [4/29/2014 10:25:35 PM] Argakiig: lemme tell you that
  538. [4/29/2014 10:25:38 PM] Koontas: yea
  539. [4/29/2014 10:25:47 PM] Argakiig: my 517
  540. [4/29/2014 10:25:49 PM] Argakiig: you will laugh at
  541. [4/29/2014 10:25:55 PM] Pocket: i'm in XBC chatroom, a lot of the guys in there dumped NRS for XBC
  542. [4/29/2014 10:26:09 PM] Pocket: apparently pretty much every coin dumped for XBC
  543. [4/29/2014 10:26:09 PM] Argakiig: xbc?
  544. [4/29/2014 10:26:11 PM] Koontas: wtf is XBC?
  545. [4/29/2014 10:26:14 PM] Pocket: bitcoinplus
  546. [4/29/2014 10:26:18 PM] Koontas: original
  547. [4/29/2014 10:26:20 PM] Argakiig: fuck that
  548. [4/29/2014 10:26:23 PM] Pocket: so potential
  549. [4/29/2014 10:26:31 PM] Argakiig: you got a link?
  550. [4/29/2014 10:26:47 PM] Koontas: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=549485.0
  551. [4/29/2014 10:26:49 PM] Pocket: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=549485.0
  552. [4/29/2014 10:27:02 PM] Pocket: it's very scammy, but hard to ignore the chart movement
  553. [4/29/2014 10:27:07 PM] Pocket: nice IPO they did though
  554. [4/29/2014 10:27:43 PM] Koontas: meh...
  555. [4/29/2014 10:27:53 PM] Barwizi: uh
  556. [4/29/2014 10:27:54 PM] Barwizi: so
  557. [4/29/2014 10:28:12 PM] Koontas: soooo
  558. [4/29/2014 10:28:14 PM] Barwizi: i need a team to help with decisions and design of the new NRB
  559. [4/29/2014 10:28:16 PM] Pocket: it's fine because our buy support is still good
  560. [4/29/2014 10:28:30 PM] Koontas: Barwizi, Chris...
  561. [4/29/2014 10:28:54 PM] Barwizi: lol, sheesh , dont start buying now
  562. [4/29/2014 10:30:03 PM] Koontas: barwizi, any specific coins you want mined on the pool?
  563. [4/29/2014 10:30:31 PM] Barwizi: truth be told, i have an idea.....cpu multipool
  564. [4/29/2014 10:30:48 PM] Barwizi: cpu+gpu+asic
  565. [4/29/2014 10:31:01 PM] Barwizi: leave no stone unturned
  566. [4/29/2014 10:31:16 PM] Barwizi: but thats your baby Koontas
  567. [4/29/2014 10:31:27 PM] Koontas: ;)
  568. [4/29/2014 10:31:28 PM] Koontas: In time...
  569. [4/29/2014 10:31:48 PM] Barwizi: you deal with it, i'm already cranking up my brain for NRB 0.2.NG
  570. [4/29/2014 10:31:54 PM] Koontas: Oh I am.
  571. [4/29/2014 10:32:19 PM] Koontas: Pool will be done quicker than you guys think
  572. [4/29/2014 10:32:19 PM] Barwizi: i dont want to take up too much time so i'll take a day off from work
  573. [4/29/2014 11:01:19 PM] Argakiig: PoS difficulty is still super low
  574. [4/29/2014 11:01:26 PM] Argakiig: .00000002
  575. [4/29/2014 11:01:36 PM] Argakiig: i remember when PoW was like that
  576. [4/30/2014 10:02:26 AM] Argakiig: is noirpool going to be scrypt only?
  577. [4/30/2014 10:02:32 AM] Argakiig: or are we gonna do sha as well?
  578. [4/30/2014 10:04:17 AM] Pocket: why not all the things
  579. [4/30/2014 10:04:19 AM] Pocket: why not zoidberg
  580. [4/30/2014 10:07:01 AM] Koontas: both
  581. [4/30/2014 10:11:05 AM] Argakiig: im asking these questions cause the way its setup now, you pickthe coin and get paid in that coin
  582. [4/30/2014 10:11:20 AM] Argakiig: im sure there are more changes to come
  583. [4/30/2014 10:11:51 AM] Koontas: yeah, you'll point to either scrypt or sha
  584. [4/30/2014 10:12:44 AM] Argakiig: and they are clear on this point?
  585. [4/30/2014 10:13:47 AM] Koontas: yes
  586. [4/30/2014 10:14:11 AM] Koontas: that's the whole point, so i'd hope so
  587. [4/30/2014 10:14:14 AM] Koontas: we have discussed
  588. [4/30/2014 10:21:47 AM] Argakiig: gotta do an improvement to my address explorer, it doesnt know how to handle stake yet :/
  589. [4/30/2014 11:16:15 AM] Argakiig: so talking directly with the guy bitcrypter is having do the pool I dont forsee any issues with it working like we want.
  590. [4/30/2014 11:16:35 AM] Argakiig: will setup sha wallets and NRS when i get home for them
  591. [4/30/2014 11:17:24 AM] Koontas: (y)
  592. [4/30/2014 11:27:43 AM] Argakiig: OOOOH
  593. [4/30/2014 11:27:45 AM] Argakiig: just had a thought.
  594. [4/30/2014 11:28:09 AM] Argakiig: Will make an online Paper wallet generator using privkeys
  595. [4/30/2014 11:28:18 AM] Koontas: ooh nice
  596. [4/30/2014 11:28:23 AM] Argakiig: that way anyone that wants to can make cold storage
  597. [4/30/2014 11:28:31 AM] Koontas: brrrrrrrr
  598. [4/30/2014 11:28:37 AM] Argakiig: oh hush
  599. [4/30/2014 11:28:42 AM] Koontas: ;)
  600. [4/30/2014 11:33:47 AM] Argakiig: 76 on coinmarketcap we are going up :P
  601. [4/30/2014 11:33:54 AM] Argakiig: was 81 just a little bit ago
  602. [4/30/2014 11:34:12 AM] Koontas: nice, what's the value?
  603. [4/30/2014 11:34:57 AM] Argakiig: $90,404
  604. [4/30/2014 11:35:14 AM] Argakiig: 76 NoirShares $ 90,404 $ 0.049263 1,835,107 NRS $ 583
  605. [4/30/2014 11:35:25 AM] Koontas: awesome
  606. [4/30/2014 12:48:55 PM] Pocket: how are we rolling out the general fund shareholder update
  607. [4/30/2014 12:49:16 PM] Koontas: email
  608. [4/30/2014 12:49:32 PM] Pocket: when?
  609. [4/30/2014 12:49:43 PM] Koontas: as soon as it's ready
  610. [4/30/2014 12:51:49 PM] Pocket: review https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GjZluiX1mVIsGlLsijHfEO2QXfhZPBZUo6moGtXfoqA/edit?usp=sharing
  611. [4/30/2014 1:00:36 PM] Argakiig: Pocket Editing The Code Section
  612. [4/30/2014 1:01:26 PM] Pocket: ya
  613. [4/30/2014 1:01:48 PM] Argakiig: not able to edit :/
  614. [4/30/2014 1:02:06 PM] Pocket: oh, hang on
  615. [4/30/2014 1:02:14 PM] Argakiig: k
  616. [4/30/2014 1:02:31 PM] Pocket: gogogo
  617. [4/30/2014 1:08:50 PM] Argakiig: edited
  618. [4/30/2014 1:10:22 PM] Pocket: i don't see any changes, did u put an easter egg or something
  619. [4/30/2014 1:10:40 PM] Argakiig: you dont see any changes
  620. [4/30/2014 1:10:46 PM] Argakiig: i see a typo in my change
  621. [4/30/2014 1:10:49 PM] Argakiig: removed step 3
  622. [4/30/2014 1:10:52 PM] Pocket: all i see is racist faces
  623. [4/30/2014 1:10:53 PM] Argakiig: reworded step 2
  624. [4/30/2014 1:10:57 PM] Pocket: sorry i'll leave tupac out of this
  625. [4/30/2014 1:11:02 PM] Pocket: oh okay
  626. [4/30/2014 1:11:06 PM] Argakiig: fixed
  627. [4/30/2014 1:11:09 PM] Argakiig: enjoy
  628. [4/30/2014 1:11:11 PM] Pocket: nice
  629. [4/30/2014 1:11:59 PM] Pocket: any last comments before this goes to the shareholders? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GjZluiX1mVIsGlLsijHfEO2QXfhZPBZUo6moGtXfoqA/edit?usp=sharing
  630. [4/30/2014 1:13:24 PM] Argakiig: looks good
  631. [4/30/2014 1:13:59 PM] Pocket: koontas: got the email list? want to send this out?
  632. [4/30/2014 1:14:13 PM] Pocket: do u want this in PDF or JPG?
  633. [4/30/2014 1:14:47 PM] Argakiig: I would PDF it
  634. [4/30/2014 1:14:54 PM] Pocket: or html
  635. [4/30/2014 1:16:55 PM] Pocket: sent in multiple formats
  636. [4/30/2014 1:42:07 PM] Koontas: lowercase l in lajz99
  637. [4/30/2014 1:42:54 PM] Argakiig: fixed
  638. [4/30/2014 1:43:03 PM] Argakiig: mine is lower as well :P
  639. [4/30/2014 1:43:10 PM] Pocket: but ur skype is capital
  640. [4/30/2014 1:43:22 PM] Argakiig: everywhere else its lower
  641. [4/30/2014 1:43:23 PM] Koontas: I dont have a lajz99 skype
  642. [4/30/2014 1:43:34 PM] Argakiig: happy?
  643. [4/30/2014 1:43:38 PM] Pocket: lol
  644. [4/30/2014 1:43:46 PM] Koontas: :)
  645. [4/30/2014 1:44:02 PM] Argakiig: you look on the forums and elsewhere
  646. [4/30/2014 1:44:05 PM] Argakiig: its argakiig
  647. [4/30/2014 1:44:08 PM] Argakiig: no capital
  648. [4/30/2014 1:44:14 PM] Argakiig: im lazy GDI
  649. [4/30/2014 1:44:22 PM] Pocket: ok hehe
  650. [4/30/2014 1:44:47 PM] argakiig: i fixed lajz99
  651. [4/30/2014 1:44:48 PM] argakiig: as well
  652. [4/30/2014 4:23:54 PM] Koontas: Bar, need BTC or we're not gettin a pool!
  653. [4/30/2014 4:27:39 PM] Barwizi: ok
  654. [4/30/2014 4:27:45 PM] Barwizi: addy please
  655. [4/30/2014 4:29:20 PM] Koontas: 1JVexb7QvuEdDSzeowX1SKHz5LQFhPK9eh
  656. [4/30/2014 4:37:36 PM] Barwizi: done
  657. [4/30/2014 4:45:11 PM] Koontas: FYI - Initial BTC and NRS payments have been sent for the pool. Logan has TX ID's for records.
  658. [4/30/2014 4:46:27 PM] argakiig: (y)
  659. [4/30/2014 6:01:29 PM] argakiig: So im taking the lull in thread activity as PoS transition going as planned
  660. [4/30/2014 6:01:33 PM] argakiig: successfully that is
  661. [5/1/2014 9:51:54 AM] Logan: So we sold our place in Tuesday and yesterday my wife got an accepted offer on a new place. One day and she bought a new house... I haven't even seen the place.
  662. [5/1/2014 9:52:13 AM] Pocket: as long as she's happy ;p
  663. [5/1/2014 9:52:49 AM] Logan: Yeah, it didn’t take long though.
  664. [5/1/2014 9:53:36 AM] Logan: Worked 16 hours yesterday and she is getting frustrated that I'm not giving her the signed paperwork fast enough.
  665. [5/1/2014 9:55:41 AM] Logan: So the miners have generated 5.5 BTC in the month of April. This puts us on track for a 6 month break even period.
  666. [5/1/2014 9:56:07 AM] Pocket: there was a lot of downtime there
  667. [5/1/2014 9:56:31 AM] Logan: The down time has been significant, costing us about 2 BTC.
  668. [5/1/2014 9:56:46 AM] Pocket: i'm sure bwizi will get things more efficient
  669. [5/1/2014 9:57:13 AM] Koontas: I think we should move them to a data center. The money spent on shipping and hosting will be less than our losses currently running like this.
  670. [5/1/2014 9:57:46 AM] Logan: The concern is that the upfront downtime is the most costly because the most profitable period is in these first few months.
  671. [5/1/2014 9:58:27 AM] Logan: We would also need to consider the downtime in transportation and potential damage.
  672. [5/1/2014 9:59:35 AM] Pocket: if bar says he can get things running smoothly, then we shouldn't move
  673. [5/1/2014 9:59:37 AM] Pocket: but it's all on him
  674. [5/1/2014 10:02:02 AM] Logan: Well his time is limited and valuable. I mentioned a while ago that I was concerned about the time required to get these running smoothly. I would like him to focus on his development and let someone else massage the miners.
  675. [5/1/2014 10:02:36 AM] Koontas: I agree with that, he shouldn't have to deal with the mining op at all.
  676. [5/1/2014 10:02:45 AM] Pocket: i agree also, but he seems to want to do it lol
  677. [5/1/2014 10:02:51 AM] Koontas: Especially when it comes to the scrypt mining.
  678. [5/1/2014 10:04:47 AM] Logan: Looking forward: next month if we get it working smoothly, we should obtain 8 BTC. With the downtime continuing probably closer to 6.
  679. [5/1/2014 10:05:09 AM] Logan: Has the scrypt miner been ordered?
  680. [5/1/2014 10:06:14 AM] Koontas: Not that I'm aware of.
  681. [5/1/2014 10:19:31 AM] Logan: That should be the first order of business. We should discuss location of it at some point.
  682. [5/1/2014 10:20:23 AM] Koontas: Yea, the scrypt miner is only 600w...could go just about anywhere.
  683. [5/1/2014 10:20:39 AM] Koontas: But, we need multiple people to have 24/7 access to it.
  684. [5/1/2014 10:24:29 AM] Barwizi: hi all
  685. [5/1/2014 10:24:47 AM] Barwizi: recent downtime is due to ongoing repairs to the local power grid
  686. [5/1/2014 10:25:33 AM] Barwizi: they are still recovering from the rains, i was leaving them at work, but the noise was raising eyebrows
  687. [5/1/2014 10:27:16 AM] Koontas: how long do you think til we're up and running solid?
  688. [5/1/2014 10:27:32 AM] Koontas: must be a disaster there, literally...
  689. [5/1/2014 10:29:27 AM] Barwizi: i feel the pressure
  690. [5/1/2014 10:29:48 AM] Koontas: We know you're doing what you can. (y)
  691. [5/1/2014 10:30:18 AM] Pocket: barwizi, do you want to keep working on the miners? what do you think about moving them to a datacenter?
  692. [5/1/2014 10:30:21 AM] Barwizi: they have been very vague and i am have legal issues with them since i am claiming the two 1000w power supplies that were blown when they failed to keep it @ 400 volts
  693. [5/1/2014 10:30:51 AM] Barwizi: i would be open to sending them to a data centre if this is not resolved soon
  694. [5/1/2014 10:32:46 AM] Barwizi: i have already looked into the option and believe i may have a solution, i will have details in the coming week , these people love their public holidays
  695. [5/1/2014 10:33:38 AM] Barwizi: i have found a place with good 24/7 power including a back-up generator and great connection
  696. [5/1/2014 10:34:44 AM] Logan: Okay, excellent. What do you want to do with the scrypt miner?
  697. [5/1/2014 12:06:43 PM] Pocket: is the noirpool gonna pay automatic dividends to general fund?
  698. [5/1/2014 12:07:02 PM] Koontas: automatic? no.
  699. [5/1/2014 12:07:27 PM] Pocket: and then subsequent automatic payout from general fund to members
  700. [5/1/2014 12:07:43 PM] Koontas: oh yes, it will pay the fund but not members
  701. [5/1/2014 12:07:48 PM] Pocket: would be nice to have in the future
  702. [5/1/2014 12:08:04 PM] Pocket: true dac
  703. [5/1/2014 12:59:53 PM] argakiig: Just a heads up Im going to be a little preoccupied
  704. [5/1/2014 1:00:14 PM] argakiig: gotta find a new job, my primary figured out I was not in a state they hire from
  705. [5/1/2014 1:00:43 PM] argakiig: so if i take a little to respond thats why
  706. [5/1/2014 1:04:09 PM] Koontas: yuck, no prob man
  707. [5/1/2014 1:11:25 PM] Pocket: what would our next funding group be
  708. [5/1/2014 1:11:31 PM] Pocket: the exchange?
  709. [5/1/2014 1:21:14 PM] Pocket: also, can we implement a newsletter function on noirds.com? anyone and everyone who wants updates should be able to get email updates on things like new venture funds opening up
  710. [5/1/2014 1:28:03 PM] Logan: Pocket, auto payouts will happen when we tokenize.
  711. [5/1/2014 1:28:41 PM] Pocket: yaaaaa
  712. [5/1/2014 1:29:53 PM] Logan: Arga, that is annoying. You would think that we would be past that geographic location bullshit by now.
  713. [5/1/2014 1:31:15 PM] Logan: So on noirpool. Do we want to approach a few POS coins to launch noirpool with other coins?
  714. [5/1/2014 1:31:52 PM] Koontas: Absolutely.
  715. [5/1/2014 1:32:39 PM] Logan: Obviously we want people to use ours but if we could line up a few now, it would be great.
  716. [5/1/2014 1:33:15 PM] Pocket: use noirpool as a launchpad for new coins who need pools?
  717. [5/1/2014 1:33:38 PM] Logan: Multi pool specific
  718. [5/1/2014 1:34:21 PM] Logan: So contact mintcoin and be like for 1 BTC, you get a multi pool in two weeks.
  719. [5/1/2014 1:34:53 PM] Koontas: Yes and the 1 BTC is negotiable with consensus from this team.
  720. [5/1/2014 1:34:54 PM] Logan: Get 5 of them on board and we covered dev and our efforts.
  721. [5/1/2014 1:35:23 PM] Logan: yes but don't tell them that. We would also take their coin
  722. [5/1/2014 1:36:50 PM] Logan: Once we have a critical mass then we can add the voting mechanism for new coins.
  723. [5/1/2014 1:38:00 PM] Koontas: Of course.
  724. [5/1/2014 1:38:43 PM] Logan: Pocket. Do you want to draft something up?
  725. [5/1/2014 1:39:08 PM] Pocket: a pitch?
  726. [5/1/2014 1:40:08 PM] Logan: Maybe an IRC reach out would be better than an email...
  727. [5/1/2014 1:41:02 PM] Pocket: who is noir group chief outside sales officer lol
  728. [5/1/2014 1:41:09 PM] Pocket: usually ceo
  729. [5/1/2014 1:41:25 PM] Pocket: in this case, maybe koontas
  730. [5/1/2014 1:41:43 PM] Pocket: but i can make some kind of flyer too
  731. [5/1/2014 1:41:45 PM] Logan: Also now that the fiat exchange idea is tabled for now. I was thinking that I could reach out to the two fiat exchanges in Vancouver since I have a good relationship with both of them.
  732. [5/1/2014 1:42:02 PM] Logan: I don't want to do it if we are doing our own thing though.
  733. [5/1/2014 1:43:31 PM] Logan: Kinda a dick move otherwise.
  734. [5/1/2014 1:44:25 PM] Logan: I would think that Koontas would be the best for this but he is also away for days.
  735. [5/1/2014 1:44:55 PM] Logan: That said, we should go with someone who has the most relationships out there.
  736. [5/1/2014 1:46:34 PM] Pocket: i can ask the franko collective guys, but there's no real big coins in there
  737. [5/1/2014 1:51:06 PM] Pocket: does it need to be pure POS
  738. [5/1/2014 1:51:38 PM] Koontas: pure POS or not scrypt/SHA
  739. [5/1/2014 1:51:52 PM] Pocket: does bitcoinplus qualify
  740. [5/1/2014 1:54:57 PM] Logan: Scrypt, no?
  741. [5/1/2014 1:56:05 PM] Logan: To go back to the Fiat exchanges. Should I speak with them on adding NRS?
  742. [5/1/2014 1:56:31 PM] Koontas: I don't see why not Logan.
  743. [5/1/2014 1:58:08 PM] Logan: Okay, I wanted to get approval first.
  744. [5/1/2014 1:59:02 PM] Logan: If Barwizi comes up with momentum merge mining, shouldn't we run that on our pool instead of ypool?
  745. [5/1/2014 1:59:18 PM] Logan: That would be huge for pool fees.
  746. [5/1/2014 1:59:27 PM] Koontas: For sure.
  747. [5/1/2014 1:59:34 PM] Pocket: numbers game (y)
  748. [5/1/2014 2:00:24 PM] Pocket: also, universitycoin seesm to be getting some attention, maybe good to mine
  749. [5/1/2014 2:01:13 PM] Pocket: andrew made a great suggestion, take the name BlackShares
  750. [5/1/2014 2:01:40 PM] Pocket: foreseeing coins going further into DAC direction, should take good Shares names
  751. [5/1/2014 2:08:05 PM] Koontas: I need translation bounties sent to 9njy52qsJu77qBMicEYRLqu7AaPWHe8u3d and 9oiY9TwyWmWypy3JJfXNP3y7vGdYLuFt4z. Can someone please push Barwizi while I'm away?
  752. [5/1/2014 2:09:20 PM] Logan: Okay, are these old or new?
  753. [5/1/2014 2:09:35 PM] Koontas: OLD
  754. [5/1/2014 2:10:01 PM] Logan: Jesus, okay I'm on the case.
  755. [5/1/2014 2:11:28 PM] Koontas: Barwizi, can you send Logan 5k NRS to have on hand?
  756. [5/1/2014 5:14:38 PM] Koontas: Alright gents, I'm out. Talk to you guys sunday afternoon. If anything urgent comes up Arg has a way to reach me.
  757. [5/1/2014 6:31:53 PM] Pocket: Is there anything in your list we need to do while you're gone
  758. [5/1/2014 6:39:15 PM] Koontas: Someone needs to get those 2 addresses above paid their translation bounties.
  759. [5/1/2014 6:39:22 PM] Koontas: That's about it.
  760. [5/1/2014 6:45:01 PM] Logan: Bar - you can use this address: 9dgttkTG9MAA7LoCqbzcRmk8g2KN3kSarN
  761. [5/1/2014 9:40:58 PM] Logan: Posted in the wrong thread. NFD-Coin, I am going to reach with the multi pool offer
  762. [5/1/2014 9:56:29 PM] Logan: Reach out rather.
  763. [5/1/2014 9:56:37 PM] Logan: They have done pretty well so they have the BTC
  764. [5/1/2014 10:05:24 PM] Logan: Thinking of sending this out:
  765. [5/1/2014 10:05:26 PM] Logan: Hi,
  766.  
  767. Noir Group (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=565623.0) is rolling out a new multipool project in the next few weeks. We will be launching with 5 exclusive POS coins that people will be able to mine using our multipool.
  768.  
  769. We want to extend you the opportunity to be one of these POS coins. The setup on your end would be minimal outside of being listed on a major exchange.
  770.  
  771. This would be a great opportunity to show immediate return of value for your stakeholders at a reasonable cost.
  772.  
  773. Please let me know if you would like to discuss further.
  774. [5/3/2014 8:43:57 AM] Logan: So since I haven't heard back from anyone on this
  775. [5/3/2014 8:44:23 AM] Logan: I have reached out to Yellow Coin & Summer Coin and they were both receptive.
  776. [5/3/2014 8:45:13 AM] Logan: Yellow Coin wants excusivity so we are just talking about that.
  777. [5/3/2014 8:45:35 AM] Logan: Not sure on Summer Coin, just shot them the cost details I will let you know what they come back with.
  778. [5/3/2014 10:00:29 AM] Pocket: Think we can get noirpool to pay out in choice of nrb and nrs instead of just nrs
  779. [5/3/2014 10:06:30 AM] Logan: No, payouts must be on poly
  780. [5/3/2014 10:10:43 AM] Pocket: Oh... Maybe Polo can add nrb then if we relaunch
  781. [5/3/2014 10:11:14 AM] Pocket: Also, looks like nrs qt version number needs fixing bar :D
  782. [5/4/2014 1:02:44 AM] Pocket: limecoin wants to get in on multipool
  783. [5/4/2014 1:04:25 AM] Pocket: limecoin@gmail.com
  784. [5/4/2014 1:07:42 AM] Pocket: they have already, but they want multiple multipools so that buying patterns can't be manipulated by traders
  785. [5/4/2014 8:06:23 AM] Logan: The price is 1 BTC
  786. [5/4/2014 8:07:12 AM] Barwizi: (y)
  787. [5/4/2014 8:08:23 AM] Logan: Summercoin is out, they are cheap.
  788. [5/4/2014 8:08:37 AM] Logan: I haven't heard back from Yellow coin
  789. [5/4/2014 8:14:56 AM] Logan: Caishen is going POS
  790. [5/4/2014 3:42:10 PM] Logan: Pocket, can you reach out to Energycoin? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589008.0 I haven't had the best luck so far.
  791. [5/4/2014 4:14:21 PM] Koontas: Anyone speak to UniversityCoin?
  792. [5/4/2014 4:14:27 PM] Koontas: they go PoS in 3 days.
  793. [5/4/2014 4:15:51 PM] Logan: No, go for it. This is my script:
  794.  
  795. Hi,
  796.  
  797. Noir Group (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=565623.0) is rolling out a new multipool project in the next few weeks. We will be launching with 5 exclusive POS coins that people will be able to mine using our multipool.
  798.  
  799. We want to extend you the opportunity to be one of these POS coins. The setup on your end would be minimal. This would be a great opportunity to show immediate return of value for your stakeholders at a reasonable cost.
  800.  
  801. Please let me know if you are interested.
  802.  
  803. Regards,
  804. Logan
  805. [5/4/2014 4:20:51 PM] Logan: I should mention that they will need to be listed on poly to work.
  806. [5/4/2014 4:21:24 PM] Logan: right now, the way it is set up anything on Cryptsy can be mined and anything on poloniex can be paid out.
  807. [5/4/2014 4:33:46 PM] *** Koontas has changed the conversation topic to "New Pool Vote - https://tricider.com/en/admin/1YSPZ/3hnq2N" ***
  808. [5/4/2014 4:33:59 PM] Koontas: New pool vote for a deal brokered by grndnpnd. https://tricider.com/en/admin/1YSPZ/3hnq2N
  809. [5/4/2014 7:57:13 PM] Pocket: Limecoin - "We would love to be a part of your pool, we are looking for several pools (other than our new multis launch this week) that offer options for Limecoin payments, but unfortunately LC is not PoS - There are only 1,000,000 coins (99% of which are mined out), but no PoS. Hard capped at 1 million :("
  810. [5/4/2014 7:58:04 PM] Logan: Well at least we got the Telsa vote official.
  811. [5/4/2014 7:58:17 PM] Pocket: AllCrypt ‏@All_Crypt 53m
  812.  
  813. @Noirds The entire git is different - whats up? Was the entire coin reworked? And if so, we need notification of that...
  814. [5/4/2014 7:59:24 PM] Koontas: apparently they haven't figured out how to read tweets
  815. [5/4/2014 7:59:32 PM] Pocket: they added us on their own too
  816. [5/4/2014 7:59:36 PM] Pocket: I never talked to them
  817. [5/4/2014 7:59:38 PM] Pocket: lol
  818. [5/4/2014 8:01:54 PM] Logan: These guys are retarded.
  819. [5/4/2014 8:02:02 PM] Logan: No wonder they have zero volume
  820. [5/4/2014 8:02:29 PM] Koontas: (facepalm)
  821. [5/4/2014 8:02:38 PM] Pocket: (facepalm)
  822. [5/4/2014 8:03:04 PM] Logan: (facepalm)
  823. [5/4/2014 8:24:44 PM] argakiig: they are probably using the wrong git
  824. [5/4/2014 8:24:44 PM] argakiig: just sayin
  825. [5/4/2014 8:24:53 PM] argakiig: i should take down the other one to keep the confusion down
  826. [5/4/2014 8:24:58 PM] argakiig: it was meant to be a dev fork
  827. [5/4/2014 8:25:45 PM] Logan: *sigh* you were supposed to do a palmface
  828. [5/4/2014 8:25:56 PM] Logan: Didn't you see the chain? We had a palmface chain going
  829. [5/4/2014 8:26:07 PM] argakiig: sorry
  830. [5/4/2014 8:26:10 PM | Edited 8:26:14 PM] argakiig: (palmface)
  831. [5/4/2014 8:26:15 PM] Logan: ...
  832. [5/4/2014 8:26:20 PM] argakiig: man i cant even do it right :9
  833. [5/4/2014 8:26:25 PM] Logan: I forgive you
  834. [5/4/2014 8:26:29 PM] argakiig: (facepalm)
  835. [5/4/2014 8:26:29 PM] argakiig: haha
  836. [5/4/2014 9:18:39 PM] Koontas: Vote has passed.
  837. [5/4/2014 9:39:01 PM] Logan: Please let Grndnpnd know and have him arrange payment.
  838. [5/4/2014 9:40:52 PM] Koontas: Will do, he's finalizing the deal.
  839. [5/4/2014 9:41:30 PM] Logan: I am contacting icoin regarding the multipool
  840. [5/4/2014 9:41:52 PM] Koontas: which coin is that for?
  841. [5/4/2014 9:42:05 PM] Logan: iCoin
  842. [5/4/2014 9:42:10 PM] Koontas: (y)
  843. [5/4/2014 9:42:36 PM] Logan: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=407866.0
  844. [5/4/2014 9:43:13 PM] Koontas: I think it's time we find someone to manage our forum.
  845. [5/5/2014 3:40:45 AM] Barwizi: I agree, Kiran isnt that active
  846. [5/5/2014 3:41:15 AM] Barwizi: i would like to move it to another server, rename it and keep good backups
  847. [5/5/2014 10:39:03 AM] Pocket: can we get an email subscribe for news and updates thingie added to the site
  848. [5/5/2014 10:39:23 AM] Pocket: whenever there's an announcement or news update i want to blast at anyone and everyone via email who is interested
  849. [5/5/2014 10:52:48 AM] Pocket: taxcoin is potentially interested in the multipool, wants an offer
  850. [5/5/2014 10:52:59 AM] Pocket: has a large community base ready to move
  851. [5/5/2014 11:48:00 AM] Koontas: Here for a few minutes if anyone needs anything.
  852. [5/5/2014 11:49:02 AM] Koontas: Personally I think we should let grndnpnd do most if not all of the pool negotiating for us. If we find someone who wants one we should just send them to him....
  853. [5/5/2014 11:50:31 AM] Pocket: mostly agree, but would then need TPS reports, maybe can make him officer lifeguard on duty
  854. [5/5/2014 11:51:19 AM] Koontas: Well, either he negotiates the pools fees +- upfront payment for us, or we have to negotiate the hosting fees for them.
  855. [5/5/2014 11:51:27 AM] Koontas: I'd rather not have to deal with any of that.
  856. [5/5/2014 11:51:36 AM] Pocket: that part yes
  857. [5/5/2014 11:52:43 AM] Koontas: My suggestion is that if we find someone who wants a pool we hand it off and let them negotiate for us.
  858. [5/5/2014 11:52:55 AM] Koontas: Ultimately we still make the decision.
  859. [5/5/2014 11:52:58 AM] Pocket: just wanna make sure we get reports
  860. [5/5/2014 11:53:03 AM] Pocket: and yes decision
  861. [5/5/2014 11:53:05 AM] Koontas: Yes, Logan is dealing with all of that with them.
  862. [5/5/2014 12:02:21 PM] Logan: I'll deal with the bookkeeping
  863. [5/5/2014 12:02:41 PM] Logan: Barwizi, NRS pool is waiting on the BTC.
  864. [5/5/2014 12:42:29 PM] cass: Hi guys
  865. [5/5/2014 12:43:17 PM] cass: short question … i'm on a design for matt and mutlipool for NG .. why you didn't ask me directly .. just curious ? :)
  866. [5/5/2014 12:44:03 PM] Logan: We were going to but Matt said that he was talking to you.
  867. [5/5/2014 12:44:42 PM] Barwizi: ok, done
  868. [5/5/2014 12:44:52 PM] Barwizi: hi cass, miss you!
  869. [5/5/2014 12:45:22 PM] Logan: Thanks, I'll let Matt know
  870. [5/5/2014 12:45:30 PM] Koontas: nothing personal cass ;)
  871. [5/5/2014 12:56:08 PM] cass: hi miss you too bar :) i'm here
  872. [5/5/2014 12:56:17 PM] cass: and miss you too all
  873. [5/5/2014 12:56:32 PM] cass: ok so koontas
  874. [5/5/2014 12:56:45 PM] Koontas: yo
  875. [5/5/2014 12:56:50 PM] cass: you need two larger images for multiport section right?
  876. [5/5/2014 12:57:04 PM] Koontas: Yea, basically need one that represents SHA and one that represents scrypt.
  877. [5/5/2014 12:57:10 PM] cass: ok
  878. [5/5/2014 12:57:23 PM] Koontas: We also need a smaller one the size of the other images that we can use for "anonymous" coins that we dont want to disclose.
  879. [5/5/2014 12:57:47 PM] cass: ok
  880. [5/5/2014 12:57:55 PM] cass: so like placeholder coin
  881. [5/5/2014 12:58:04 PM] cass: :)
  882. [5/5/2014 12:58:07 PM] Koontas: yup
  883. [5/5/2014 12:58:42 PM] Koontas: pocket, is there a link to the survey results?
  884. [5/5/2014 1:08:52 PM] Pocket: yea
  885. [5/5/2014 1:10:03 PM] Pocket: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QhqBkGrnBhvVvKmPTT5YmcrW9AVbhp_VkhbxKimVa-I/viewanalytics
  886. [5/5/2014 1:26:31 PM] Logan: You like me! You really like me!
  887. [5/5/2014 1:34:24 PM] argakiig: yeah I got no love :/
  888. [5/5/2014 2:00:07 PM] Pocket: lol
  889. [5/5/2014 2:00:15 PM] Pocket: i think a lot of it had to do with the adjectives i put unfairly
  890. [5/5/2014 2:00:19 PM] Pocket: i was going for same letter adjectives
  891. [5/5/2014 2:35:45 PM] Logan: Antichrist Argakiig really rolls off the tongue.
  892. [5/5/2014 2:40:05 PM] argakiig: do it
  893. [5/5/2014 2:40:12 PM] argakiig: I would get lots of votes that
  894. [5/5/2014 2:40:13 PM] argakiig: way
  895. [5/5/2014 3:01:12 PM] Pocket: LOL ok
  896. [5/5/2014 3:01:14 PM] Pocket: u sure
  897. [5/5/2014 3:01:51 PM] Logan: Let's not.
  898. [5/5/2014 3:04:38 PM] argakiig: and say we didnt
  899. [5/5/2014 3:04:43 PM] argakiig: deal
  900. [5/6/2014 2:55:34 PM] Koontas: Question - will the new wallet auto-update or at least be able to update within the app itself?
  901. [5/6/2014 2:57:41 PM] Pocket: please god yes
  902. [5/6/2014 2:57:55 PM] argakiig: we could probably make it so that it pushes updates telling you to dl a new wallet
  903. [5/6/2014 2:58:04 PM] argakiig: but its a compiled .exe
  904. [5/6/2014 2:58:09 PM] Pocket: deny connection to the chain if it's not current version
  905. [5/6/2014 2:58:23 PM] argakiig: not something we could just push updates to per say
  906. [5/6/2014 2:58:37 PM] Koontas: okay, understood
  907. [5/6/2014 4:12:10 PM] Logan: Why not?
  908. [5/6/2014 4:12:27 PM] argakiig: cause its pre compiled
  909. [5/6/2014 4:12:38 PM] argakiig: and needs a compiler to remake
  910. [5/6/2014 4:12:54 PM] argakiig: if everyone had mingw or the like we could do that
  911. [5/6/2014 4:13:44 PM] argakiig: but since that is not normally the case you would need to tell them there is an update and then eed to download it
  912. [5/6/2014 4:13:47 PM] argakiig: make sense?
  913. [5/6/2014 4:19:29 PM] Logan: Yeah, I can dig it.
  914. [5/6/2014 6:16:57 PM] *** Koontas has changed the conversation topic to "NRS Officers" ***
  915. [5/6/2014 6:17:12 PM] Koontas: Let's not discuss any specific financial info in the other chat...
  916. [5/6/2014 6:17:22 PM] Koontas: General chat is fine, but no numbers.
  917. [5/6/2014 6:18:05 PM] Logan: Yeah
  918. [5/6/2014 6:18:32 PM] Logan: I sent Andrew a PM though with a little more info.
  919. [5/6/2014 6:18:47 PM] Koontas: That's cool, I'm not worried about Andrew and Chris...
  920. [5/6/2014 6:18:58 PM] Logan: I don't want it in general as we now have contractors in there
  921. [5/6/2014 6:19:00 PM] Koontas: Others have no reason to be faithful to us.
  922. [5/6/2014 6:19:19 PM] Pocket: (y)
  923. [5/6/2014 6:19:32 PM] Logan: or if we ask grndnpnd to do more work and we are bragging about how much cash we have, well that just pushes up the price.
  924. [5/6/2014 6:19:43 PM] Koontas: true true
  925. [5/6/2014 8:09:46 PM] Pocket: Bar, what's phase one of NoirSpace going to entail? Do you think it will be announced with a new venture fund?
  926. [5/6/2014 8:11:03 PM] Pocket: Also, what do you guys think of scheduled officer meetings? Each officer will speak for like 5 min each about that week or biweek
  927. [5/6/2014 8:11:13 PM] Pocket: Maybe on mumble or something
  928. [5/6/2014 8:11:41 PM] Pocket: And then an open mic discussion after each officer presentation
  929. [5/6/2014 8:12:00 PM] Pocket: So we can be strongest team
  930. [5/6/2014 8:12:39 PM] Logan: Pocket, there will be a fundraiser after a NoirSpace alpha. I am still working on the distribution plan.
  931. [5/6/2014 8:14:03 PM] Pocket: Cool thing about calling them ventures as opposed to ipos is that we can basically have continuous ipos
  932. [5/6/2014 8:14:26 PM] Pocket: OK Just wanted to know if it's something we are press releasing
  933. [5/6/2014 8:15:02 PM] Pocket: Then this month news update will be the pool and announcement of generally some kind of start to phase 1
  934. [5/6/2014 8:16:46 PM] Pocket: Unless bar plans to have some software this month?
  935. [5/6/2014 8:16:58 PM] Pocket: I think he is going to gather programmers
  936. [5/6/2014 8:19:28 PM] Pocket: I'm gonna just sit on the presser and hold it until we have a better view of what we are doing
  937. [5/6/2014 8:21:29 PM] Logan: It is tough when we have people in many timezones to be online all at the same time.
  938. [5/6/2014 8:21:50 PM] Pocket: But this next announce release should be good enough to get us to 500k-1m market cap if we do it right
  939. [5/6/2014 8:21:56 PM] Pocket: Yeah that is true
  940. [5/6/2014 8:22:22 PM] Logan: Maybe we could have a second Officers group where we just list out tasks that we are working on.
  941. [5/6/2014 8:22:28 PM] Pocket: Koontas do u think u can make some kind of chart of available officer times, see what times we all intersect
  942. [5/6/2014 8:22:36 PM] Pocket: I thought that was trello
  943. [5/6/2014 8:22:42 PM] Logan: Good point
  944. [5/6/2014 8:24:20 PM] Logan: So basically we need to get better with updating Trello?
  945. [5/6/2014 8:25:53 PM] Pocket: Yup
  946. [5/6/2014 8:26:03 PM] Pocket: But I don't like the interface ;p
  947. [5/6/2014 10:17:37 PM] cass: Good morning
  948. [5/6/2014 10:19:18 PM] cass: Don't think we need 2nd officers group … its confusing sometime …at least for me and its difficult enough to follow complete discussion … maybe it could be really useful .. if have kinda a logbook or something
  949. [5/6/2014 10:19:22 PM] cass: you know …
  950. [5/6/2014 10:19:41 PM] argakiig: I dont think he was meaning a group
  951. [5/6/2014 10:19:48 PM] argakiig: as much as a meeting
  952. [5/6/2014 10:19:53 PM] argakiig: where we all sit down and plan
  953. [5/6/2014 10:27:15 PM] Barwizi: it was a leak, and i am not a all happy
  954. [5/6/2014 10:27:32 PM] Barwizi: i did not mention the change to momentum in the git
  955. [5/6/2014 10:27:49 PM] argakiig: what?
  956. [5/6/2014 10:27:59 PM] argakiig: who said anything
  957. [5/6/2014 10:28:15 PM] Barwizi: that is what is worrying me
  958. [5/6/2014 10:29:08 PM] Barwizi: these are advanced concepts that noone else has made any hint at , purely NG intellect and someone is leaking
  959. [5/6/2014 11:36:00 PM] Koontas: Alright, we have a lot of people in the other chat now, and that's okay.
  960. [5/6/2014 11:36:32 PM] Koontas: However, if we have NEW ideas, they should be presented and discussed here first and the group shall decide if and when they're discussed in the other chat.
  961. [5/6/2014 11:36:47 PM] Pocket: and we will have those
  962. [5/6/2014 11:36:50 PM] Koontas: I hate to say it, but, we should have 3 levels of chats.
  963. [5/6/2014 11:36:53 PM] Pocket: new ideas i mean, always
  964. [5/6/2014 11:37:08 PM] Pocket: yeah public, enthusiasts, leadership
  965. [5/6/2014 11:37:14 PM] Pocket: maybe even 4 levels lol
  966. [5/6/2014 11:37:31 PM] Pocket: but that 4th level is like...patches of cooperating officers
  967. [5/6/2014 11:38:11 PM] Koontas: 4 would just be insane and too hard to figure out what to talk about where, i'm hesitant to even create a 3rd...
  968. [5/6/2014 11:38:37 PM] Pocket: well irc could be public, the nrs chat is enthusiasts, and this is the officers
  969. [5/6/2014 11:39:35 PM] Koontas: true
  970. [5/7/2014 12:25:15 AM] Koontas: We need to find out more about Amber Baldet.
  971. [5/7/2014 12:25:31 AM] Koontas: She could be an asset based on what I'm seeing.
  972. [5/7/2014 12:28:00 AM] Koontas: I'm going to find a way to contact her.
  973. [5/7/2014 12:28:28 AM] Koontas: Pocket, good find on twitter.
  974. [5/7/2014 1:54:28 AM] cass: Hi Logan … is there any charts for incomes & outcomes … ? just curious
  975. [5/7/2014 6:38:38 AM] Logan: The only expenditures recently have been the pool, the income is the miner.
  976. [5/7/2014 6:39:00 AM] Logan: Pretty straight forward, I didn't think it was necessary to have a two line spreadsheet for it
  977. [5/7/2014 7:54:37 AM] Pocket: lol i am on there all day
  978. [5/7/2014 7:54:46 AM] Pocket: not sure how to talk more to her though
  979. [5/7/2014 7:54:50 AM] Pocket: was thinking the same thing
  980. [5/7/2014 10:28:45 AM] Pocket: x11 mining getting popular
  981. [5/7/2014 10:54:31 AM] Logan: Yes, there are always never better algos
  982. [5/7/2014 10:55:19 AM] Pocket: just from hearing its quieter makes me understand why it would be
  983. [5/7/2014 10:55:28 AM] Pocket: my one GPU and CPU in my desktop are loud enough
  984. [5/7/2014 11:05:27 AM] Logan: The less hot and quiet sounds like an issue with the algo more than by design.
  985. [5/7/2014 11:06:02 AM] Logan: You cpu mine? My cpu fan just screams when I do so I stopped.
  986. [5/7/2014 11:07:00 AM] Koontas: 20btc volume in last 24 hours... (y)
  987. [5/7/2014 11:07:48 AM] Logan: Most it on the bid too
  988. [5/7/2014 11:08:03 AM] Logan: Ask rather.
  989. [5/7/2014 11:08:10 AM] Koontas: yep
  990. [5/7/2014 11:10:01 AM] Logan: So are we pulling the trigger on the miner?
  991. [5/7/2014 11:11:55 AM] Koontas: Bar?
  992. [5/7/2014 3:05:49 PM] Koontas: Could probably get an article for not many NRS: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599777.new#new
  993. [5/7/2014 3:08:11 PM] Pocket: on it
  994. [5/7/2014 3:11:21 PM] Pocket: some weird scrolling effect on noirpool.com
  995. [5/7/2014 3:11:26 PM] Pocket: when using mousewheeldown
  996. [5/7/2014 3:12:53 PM] Koontas: i think that's intentional
  997. [5/7/2014 3:13:05 PM] Koontas: are you talking about the menu bar sticking and expanding?
  998. [5/7/2014 3:13:21 PM] Pocket: i can't scroll to the bottom
  999. [5/7/2014 3:13:24 PM] Pocket: and it flashes the banner
  1000. [5/7/2014 3:13:31 PM] Koontas: hm, i can
  1001. [5/7/2014 3:13:32 PM] Koontas: what browser?
  1002. [5/7/2014 3:13:36 PM] Pocket: firefox
  1003. [5/7/2014 3:14:02 PM] Koontas: Ah yes (use Chrome)
  1004. [5/7/2014 3:14:06 PM] Koontas: haha, ill let them know
  1005. [5/7/2014 3:14:12 PM] argakiig: or even, IE
  1006. [5/7/2014 3:14:16 PM] argakiig: but not firefox
  1007. [5/7/2014 3:14:25 PM] cass: i have noticed this sometimes on FF also ...
  1008. [5/7/2014 3:17:10 PM] cass: thx logan for your reply on in/outcome chart .. sry but wasn't on actual stand on this why i have asked..
  1009. [5/7/2014 3:22:34 PM] Pocket: i don't wanna rip blackcoin's text
  1010. [5/7/2014 3:22:44 PM] Pocket: but it's not like our pool does anything much different
  1011. [5/7/2014 3:26:13 PM] Pocket: what can i say about the mining algorithm?
  1012. [5/7/2014 3:26:27 PM] Logan: Unique special, etc.
  1013. [5/7/2014 3:26:35 PM] Pocket: this is what blackcoin says "We use custom algorithmic logic to determine which coins to mine based on profitability. Although other multipools and calculators claim to do the same, we specifically factor in all possible variables... we go beyond that though and also factor in buy and sell depth on various exchanges, forecast market movements based on projected sell activity of our mined coins and we leverage a distributed sell model for auto selling mined coins. (We've always hated mining a coin on a multipool only to realize that no one is buying it on any market)"
  1014. [5/7/2014 3:27:07 PM] Koontas: We can say exactly the same thing worded differently, lol
  1015. [5/7/2014 3:27:16 PM] Pocket: lol
  1016. [5/7/2014 3:27:47 PM] Pocket: do i mention bitcrypter or hashadvisor as being the team behind the custom mining algorithms
  1017. [5/7/2014 4:32:56 PM] Pocket: About NoirPool
  1018.  
  1019. Welcome to NoirPool. It is a multipool. There is no running at the NoirPool. No food or drink is allowed at the NoirPool. Much profitable mining and entertainment is allowed. We promise you won't be swimming in the dark here. Can't promise you won't be swimming in other things. See our objectives below. Happy Mining. -- Noir Group
  1020.  
  1021.  
  1022. Our objective with this multipool is to create continuous pressure on the NoirShares markets. The pool will mine the most profitable altcoins and then use those funds to buy NoirShares on the market for your payout. We will also utilize buy walls to prevent price manipulation of NoirShares markets as much as possible.
  1023.  
  1024. Why mine at NoirPool?
  1025.  
  1026. Performance. Stability. Efficiency. Trust. To support the Noir Network. The reasons are many. The excuses to mine elsewhere are few.
  1027.  
  1028. The number one reason to mine with any pool is profitability. NoirPool uses custom logic-driven algorithms to select which coins to mine at any given moment. Many multipools and calculators offer a similar claim, but NoirPool also considers factors such as buy/sell depth and market movements based on analysis of sell activity of mined coins. NoirPool also distributes the automatic sells across exchanges and at irregular times.
  1029. Most important of all is the development team, continuously improving the mining algorithms and sell patterns, while also keeping an eye on the market for profitable mining opportunities. The NoirPool team is your guide through cryptic waters for high performance mining.
  1030.  
  1031. We will be mining SHA and Scrypt among others. New and experienced miners alike, welcome to NoirPool!
  1032.  
  1033. Got Questions? Comments? Concerns? Just want to talk?
  1034.  
  1035. Join us in IRC. irc.freenode.net #noirgroup
  1036. Twitter: www.twitter.com/noirds @Noirds
  1037. Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/noirshares
  1038.  
  1039. NoirPool is brought to you by Noir Group. Noir Group welcomes everyone to join us as we learn, play, build, and work towards a better future.
  1040.  
  1041. www.noirds.com
  1042. [5/7/2014 4:41:27 PM] Pocket: uh...is there a whitepaper for NRS?
  1043. [5/7/2014 4:59:01 PM] Barwizi: how much to add x11 support?
  1044. [5/7/2014 5:02:01 PM] Logan: There is no NRS white paper, white paper is a waste of time. We haven't discussed x11 or other algos.
  1045. [5/7/2014 5:04:48 PM] argakiig: for the pool
  1046. [5/7/2014 5:04:55 PM] argakiig: shouldnt be any different
  1047. [5/7/2014 5:05:07 PM] argakiig: all they have to do is setup daemons
  1048. [5/7/2014 5:05:15 PM] argakiig: and then config nomp to accept them
  1049. [5/7/2014 9:10:25 PM] Koontas: Pocket, can you remove this from the OP? Noir Multi-Pool- Multi-Pool Mining with the Noir Group!
  1050. [5/7/2014 9:12:02 PM] Logan: Nooo, why!? Pocket, ack!
  1051. [5/7/2014 9:12:31 PM] Logan: We really wanted to do a big public announcement and not just have it as a line in the OP.
  1052. [5/7/2014 9:15:26 PM] argakiig: wait what
  1053. [5/7/2014 9:15:32 PM] argakiig: we're announcing
  1054. [5/7/2014 9:15:36 PM] argakiig: and its not finishe being setup yet
  1055. [5/7/2014 9:15:37 PM] argakiig: ...
  1056. [5/7/2014 9:16:27 PM | Edited 9:16:35 PM] Koontas: it's currently in the OP and shouldn’t be
  1057. [5/7/2014 9:16:42 PM] argakiig: I was gonna say
  1058. [5/7/2014 9:16:49 PM] argakiig: I didnt think we were announcing yet
  1059. [5/7/2014 9:17:48 PM] Koontas: We're not announcing until we all agree on a marketing plan.
  1060. [5/7/2014 9:17:55 PM] Koontas: I don't care if it's ready for a month...
  1061. [5/7/2014 9:26:40 PM] Logan: Does anyone have a log in for that account?
  1062. [5/7/2014 9:27:00 PM] Koontas: (shake)
  1063. [5/7/2014 9:27:41 PM] Logan: fml
  1064. [5/7/2014 9:28:18 PM] argakiig: we need that
  1065. [5/7/2014 9:38:37 PM] Pocket: ?
  1066. [5/7/2014 9:38:42 PM] Pocket: It's been there for like a month
  1067. [5/7/2014 9:39:23 PM] Koontas: let's just remove it...
  1068. [5/7/2014 9:39:23 PM] Pocket: Before we even really started working on it
  1069. [5/7/2014 9:39:54 PM] Pocket: K
  1070. [5/7/2014 9:40:06 PM] Pocket: Ppl didn't pay much attention I'm sure
  1071. [5/7/2014 9:42:16 PM] Pocket: It's gone
  1072. [5/7/2014 9:45:06 PM] Koontas: We're about to hit a $300k market cap
  1073. [5/7/2014 10:13:53 PM] Koontas: Logan?
  1074. [5/7/2014 10:15:21 PM] Logan: yep?
  1075. [5/7/2014 10:16:26 PM] Koontas: So when we mine on the multipool with our miners we'll be paid out in NRS....
  1076. [5/7/2014 10:16:57 PM] Koontas: How do you think that should be split between savings and shareholders?
  1077. [5/7/2014 10:18:11 PM] Logan: I think we need to see what the fees are first. If it is a small amount? We can just pay it all out. If it is a large amount, we should probably retain it.
  1078. [5/7/2014 10:18:50 PM] Koontas: Oh I'm not talking fees, that will be separate.
  1079. [5/7/2014 10:19:15 PM] Koontas: I'm talking about if/when we point the SHA miner at the pool it'll mine just like everyone else and pay out NRS to our wallet...
  1080. [5/7/2014 10:19:29 PM] Koontas: I do think we should point at least 1th/s at the pool.
  1081. [5/7/2014 10:20:33 PM] Logan: oh gotcha
  1082. [5/7/2014 10:21:15 PM] Koontas: I personally think if we point 1th/s at it and pay out the NRS "mined" to the group it would be a big hit and build a lot of confidence.
  1083. [5/7/2014 10:22:51 PM] Logan: I would still like to build up more BTC but I think we have enough NRS for now. I don't think the small amount that we would get from the miner would be worth retaining. I would feel good about paying out to the shareholders.
  1084. [5/7/2014 10:23:13 PM] Logan: I want 5 BTC but other than that, we are fine
  1085. [5/7/2014 10:23:43 PM] Koontas: Okay, I will be putting together 2 votes. 1 vote to determine how much power we should put on the pool and the other to confirm NRS payout to shareholders.
  1086. [5/7/2014 10:29:47 PM] *** Koontas has changed the conversation topic to "New Vote: https://tricider.com/en/admin/1YxkM/3j4YYO" ***
  1087. [5/7/2014 10:30:03 PM | Edited 10:38:21 PM] Koontas: New Vote to determine if/how much power should be put on the pool once ready: https://tricider.com/en/admin/1YxkM/3j4YYO
  1088. [5/7/2014 10:41:02 PM] Koontas: (you can change your vote based on what others have input if you want, just has to be done by the deadline)
  1089. [5/7/2014 10:43:49 PM] Pocket: So it's a decision to choose how much the split is for btc mining at eligius and nrs mining at noirpool
  1090. [5/7/2014 10:45:12 PM] Koontas: correct.
  1091. [5/7/2014 10:46:31 PM] Pocket: Maybe Gen fun would like to vote?
  1092. [5/7/2014 10:46:44 PM] Pocket: Would be fun for them, and result wouldn't be too different
  1093. [5/7/2014 10:50:47 PM] Koontas: well, they're not seeing results from the mining currently so i think they'll be happy with this
  1094. [5/7/2014 10:51:06 PM] Koontas: we also want to instill faith that we can make good decisions on behalf of the group
  1095. [5/7/2014 10:51:31 PM | Removed 10:52:03 PM] argakiig: This message has been removed.
  1096. [5/7/2014 10:51:37 PM | Removed 10:52:00 PM] argakiig: This message has been removed.
  1097. [5/7/2014 10:51:49 PM] Koontas: ?
  1098. [5/7/2014 10:51:55 PM] argakiig: wrong room
  1099. [5/7/2014 10:51:57 PM] Koontas: haha
  1100. [5/7/2014 11:00:51 PM] Pocket: Lol this vote is turning out nicely
  1101. [5/7/2014 11:04:29 PM] Koontas: I adjusted to 3th/s just because we do need to mine BTC to have some on hand.
  1102. [5/7/2014 11:08:03 PM] Pocket: Lol OK I'll change mine too
  1103. [5/8/2014 6:14:23 AM] Logan: So guy just sold his 0.26 interest in the General Fund for 1 BTC.
  1104. [5/8/2014 6:15:21 AM] Logan: That would value this venture at just over 90K
  1105. [5/8/2014 10:51:31 AM] Pocket: when we announcing open swimming
  1106. [5/8/2014 10:52:05 AM] argakiig: when its fixed,
  1107. [5/8/2014 10:52:12 AM] Pocket: oh is it broken
  1108. [5/8/2014 10:52:35 AM] argakiig: its not complete yet
  1109. [5/8/2014 10:53:02 AM] argakiig: only tak sex and ltc right now
  1110. [5/8/2014 10:53:12 AM] argakiig: and the payout system is still being worked on
  1111. [5/8/2014 10:53:24 AM] Pocket: o
  1112. [5/8/2014 11:14:49 AM] Logan: I can't believe that no one said anything about someone selling a quarter of a share for 1 BTC.
  1113. [5/8/2014 11:15:07 AM] Pocket: it's...notbad.jpg
  1114. [5/8/2014 11:15:10 AM] Pocket: i would have held out for more
  1115. [5/8/2014 11:15:11 AM] Pocket: lol
  1116. [5/8/2014 11:17:22 AM] Logan: 4x in a month isn't bad.
  1117. [5/8/2014 11:17:40 AM] Pocket: yea that's for sure
  1118. [5/8/2014 12:31:25 PM] Pocket: officers: i think we should buy some kind of crypto generator
  1119. [5/8/2014 12:31:31 PM] Pocket: like coingen or something
  1120. [5/8/2014 12:32:23 PM] Pocket: even though we have bar, the idea is to bring web companies to list on our noir exchange
  1121. [5/8/2014 12:32:40 PM] Pocket: instead of listing on NYSE or NASDAQ
  1122. [5/8/2014 12:33:42 PM] Pocket: at some point
  1123. [5/8/2014 12:35:40 PM] Pocket: possibly
  1124. [5/8/2014 12:43:28 PM] Logan: Jesus god no.
  1125. [5/8/2014 12:43:48 PM] Pocket: PoS coins only, no mining
  1126. [5/8/2014 12:44:07 PM] Logan: A straight fork and name change would be fine
  1127. [5/8/2014 12:44:57 PM] Pocket: ok
  1128. [5/8/2014 12:45:05 PM] Logan: If we roll out anything, it all has to be via momentum merge mining otherwise it is too expensive.
  1129. [5/8/2014 3:45:04 PM] Koontas: Alright, the vote to put power on the new pool has passed and 3th/s has 3 of 6 votes.
  1130. [5/8/2014 3:49:31 PM] Pocket: i'm gonna post details in the threads of each coin we are mining once we go live
  1131. [5/8/2014 3:49:45 PM] Pocket: as well as in various pool related threads
  1132. [5/8/2014 3:52:41 PM] Pocket: i think it will be a jpg flyer type
  1133. [5/8/2014 4:18:12 PM] argakiig: FFS we need another exchange
  1134. [5/8/2014 4:18:20 PM] argakiig: poloniex didnt used to suck so much
  1135. [5/8/2014 4:18:42 PM] Pocket: we are on a bunch of crap exchanges for free
  1136. [5/8/2014 4:18:49 PM] Pocket: but the big ones are gonna take money
  1137. [5/8/2014 4:19:01 PM] argakiig: it shouldnt be
  1138. [5/8/2014 4:19:04 PM] argakiig: and poloniex
  1139. [5/8/2014 4:19:08 PM] argakiig: isnt a crap exchange
  1140. [5/8/2014 4:19:12 PM] argakiig: used to be pretty decent
  1141. [5/8/2014 4:19:21 PM] Pocket: it's faster now, they just finished upgrading servers
  1142. [5/8/2014 7:31:37 PM] Koontas: About NoirPool updated on the site.
  1143. [5/8/2014 7:32:51 PM] Pocket: can we get some highlights in there
  1144. [5/8/2014 7:33:04 PM] Koontas: yea we'll refine and update to links, etc.
  1145. [5/8/2014 7:33:10 PM] Pocket: so dark
  1146. [5/8/2014 7:33:10 PM] Pocket: lol
  1147. [5/8/2014 9:32:24 PM] Pocket: hey....
  1148. [5/8/2014 9:32:43 PM] Pocket: won't miners who get paid in NRS (which the pool buys from the exchange) just take the NRS and sell it right back on the marketplace...?
  1149. [5/8/2014 9:34:24 PM] argakiig: not necessarily
  1150. [5/8/2014 9:36:20 PM] Logan: Why would they do that? If they wanted BTC then they would use a normal multi pool
  1151. [5/8/2014 10:01:00 PM] Pocket: some guy in polo trollbox wants help with making a multipool, just a general one no group affiliation, wants to mine coins that ended POW like diem, xbc, cinni, bc, etc, needs to know hardware and software specs, is this something I can sell to him
  1152. [5/8/2014 10:14:47 PM] Logan: Yeah, we can set it up for him. Direct him to Grndpnd
  1153. [5/8/2014 10:15:05 PM] Pocket: done
  1154. [5/8/2014 11:03:33 PM] Pocket: anyone familiar with xbmc, xbox media center
  1155. [5/8/2014 11:03:43 PM] Pocket: any thoughts on integrating something like that into noirspace
  1156. [5/8/2014 11:03:59 PM] Pocket: If it's easier to do it with something pre-made like that as opposed to making it new
  1157. [5/8/2014 11:03:59 PM] argakiig: familiar with it
  1158. [5/8/2014 11:04:02 PM] argakiig: but why?
  1159. [5/8/2014 11:04:40 PM] Pocket: dunno, thinking of noirspace as future OS, then the media content has to be consumed after being bought
  1160. [5/8/2014 11:34:28 PM] Pocket: ok, so this guy doesn't want us to build it for him, he wants us to teach him how to build and run a pool
  1161. [5/8/2014 11:34:37 PM] Pocket: how much should that cost
  1162. [5/8/2014 11:34:55 PM] Pocket: and would we even do that
  1163. [5/9/2014 12:02:01 AM] Barwizi: anyone up
  1164. [5/9/2014 12:02:44 AM] argakiig: kidna
  1165. [5/9/2014 12:02:46 AM] argakiig: kinda*
  1166. [5/9/2014 12:02:50 AM] argakiig: was baout to got bed
  1167. [5/9/2014 12:02:52 AM] argakiig: whats up
  1168. [5/9/2014 12:02:54 AM] Pocket: hi
  1169. [5/9/2014 12:02:58 AM] Pocket: same
  1170. [5/9/2014 12:07:37 AM] Barwizi: i was just running calculations and i saw that with another 10k investment in mining we'd make $111 a day with sha256 and $130 if we go for scrypt
  1171. [5/9/2014 12:08:29 AM] Barwizi: but the problem is the time span at current difficulty is ~120 days, that is with current price
  1172. [5/9/2014 12:08:58 AM] Barwizi: i think difficulty will rise ten times before price even tries to catch up
  1173. [5/9/2014 12:09:09 AM] Barwizi: frankly mining is looking bleak
  1174. [5/9/2014 12:09:14 AM] Pocket: ^
  1175. [5/9/2014 12:09:27 AM] Pocket: just need enough hardware to keep the network going
  1176. [5/9/2014 12:10:34 AM] Barwizi: the only way i see it being possible is by releasing a sha256 coin and a scrypt coin through sock puppets and pumping them until we break even
  1177. [5/9/2014 12:10:50 AM] argakiig: ugh
  1178. [5/9/2014 12:11:00 AM] Barwizi: my point exactly
  1179. [5/9/2014 12:11:20 AM] argakiig: what would happen if we used our pool
  1180. [5/9/2014 12:11:25 AM] argakiig: though i was thinking
  1181. [5/9/2014 12:11:32 AM] argakiig: with using the pool
  1182. [5/9/2014 12:11:41 AM] argakiig: we are going to be dumping w/e coin we are selling
  1183. [5/9/2014 12:11:57 AM] argakiig: the pool will need to add more and more coins in order to keep up
  1184. [5/9/2014 12:12:09 AM] argakiig: and keep diverse enough to stay profitable
  1185. [5/9/2014 12:12:37 AM] Barwizi: not much difference, no matter what we mine and dump, if you look at coiwarz you'll see that the most profitable coins all have one flaw, no volume to support the 24h rate
  1186. [5/9/2014 12:12:49 AM] Pocket: battlecoin
  1187. [5/9/2014 12:13:58 AM] Pocket: just gotta keep jumping coins
  1188. [5/9/2014 12:14:15 AM] Pocket: why not go for headache free and just mine btc
  1189. [5/9/2014 12:18:30 AM] argakiig: well im gonna sleep
  1190. [5/9/2014 6:47:06 AM] Logan: Well the passive income nature of the miners is attractive because you don't really need to do anything but if the difficulty is going to make it unworkable then I would be open to exploring other options.
  1191. [5/9/2014 6:48:58 AM] Logan: I think Litecoin supporters would be willing to mine at considerable loss because they think that they have a shot at number 1. So they would care less about dumping than others.
  1192. [5/9/2014 9:17:05 AM] Pocket: Duuuude cool concept with yvg last night bar
  1193. [5/9/2014 9:17:19 AM] Pocket: NRS could introduce blockrope technology
  1194. [5/9/2014 10:13:22 AM] Pocket: or a new name entirely for the tech, like threadchain, microblock, dataweave, etc
  1195. [5/9/2014 10:17:14 AM] Koontas: Need to know what our marketing options are for the pool.
  1196. [5/9/2014 10:18:29 AM] Pocket: ppc/seo, press release distro, forum presence, social media blast
  1197. [5/9/2014 10:18:40 AM] Pocket: can't do the ppc/seo and press distro without some spending
  1198. [5/9/2014 10:19:01 AM] Pocket: all of the groups i've spoken to want thousands
  1199. [5/9/2014 10:19:29 AM] Pocket: except john ogden, who i think is the best bet for this pool marketing as he does a lot of pool stuff
  1200. [5/9/2014 10:20:00 AM] Koontas: Would like to see a proposal from john and some references.
  1201. [5/9/2014 10:20:02 AM] Pocket: and he only wants a couple hundred
  1202. [5/9/2014 10:20:16 AM] Pocket: i have the proposal, i'm waiting for his references and portfolio
  1203. [5/9/2014 10:20:24 AM] Koontas: nice
  1204. [5/9/2014 10:28:01 AM] Pocket: koontas, sending an email to koontas@noirds.com for john ogden's references
  1205. [5/9/2014 10:29:07 AM] Koontas: (y)
  1206. [5/9/2014 10:29:16 AM] argakiig: Pocket we aren't sharing about the pool yet in the other roon
  1207. [5/9/2014 10:29:18 AM] argakiig: Room.
  1208. [5/9/2014 10:29:31 AM] argakiig: It's not ready for major testing
  1209. [5/9/2014 10:30:00 AM] Pocket: that's as much detail as i'm giving
  1210. [5/9/2014 10:50:09 AM] Pocket: besides john ogden, there's bitcoin PR buzz at $499, but you already know them
  1211. [5/9/2014 10:53:28 AM] Pocket: everyone else i spoke to wants at least 8btc and a month of work
  1212. [5/9/2014 11:01:41 AM] Logan: I want to get a month of real advertising for NoirSpace, bring in a professional team. For the Noirpool, I think we just need to have posts everywhere.
  1213. [5/9/2014 1:56:04 PM] Pocket: twitter is asking for automated wallet unlocking for stake, like a button or something
  1214. [5/9/2014 1:56:09 PM] Pocket: for future wallet release
  1215. [5/9/2014 1:57:46 PM] Koontas: as in the company twitter?
  1216. [5/9/2014 1:57:56 PM] Koontas: NRS is gonna be HUGE!
  1217. [5/9/2014 1:58:24 PM] Pocket: what?
  1218. [5/9/2014 1:58:26 PM] Pocket: no
  1219. [5/9/2014 1:58:28 PM] Pocket: people on twitter
  1220. [5/9/2014 1:58:31 PM] Pocket: tweeting at us
  1221. [5/9/2014 1:58:50 PM] Koontas: i mean, it sounds easy enough
  1222. [5/9/2014 1:58:53 PM] Koontas: lazy fucks...
  1223. [5/9/2014 1:58:56 PM] Pocket: lol
  1224. [5/9/2014 1:59:01 PM] Pocket: we need to be iphone easy
  1225. [5/9/2014 1:59:03 PM] Pocket: remember
  1226. [5/9/2014 1:59:11 PM] Pocket: what do you think of john ogden?
  1227. [5/9/2014 1:59:27 PM] Koontas: I need to read through again later tonight when I have time to focus.
  1228. [5/9/2014 1:59:33 PM] Pocket: k
  1229. [5/9/2014 2:28:44 PM] Logan: The next wallet will have a stake button or even an auto stake.
  1230. [5/9/2014 3:59:25 PM] Koontas: You guys should take a look at this wallet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599438.0
  1231. [5/9/2014 3:59:29 PM] Koontas: actually download it
  1232. [5/9/2014 4:16:39 PM] Pocket: is it much different than the screenshot
  1233. [5/9/2014 4:17:22 PM] Pocket: wowwww love that moving homepage
  1234. [5/9/2014 4:17:26 PM] Pocket: http://www.silk-coin.com/
  1235. [5/9/2014 4:18:26 PM] Pocket: damn they have a lot of advanced features
  1236. [5/9/2014 4:35:04 PM] Koontas: Pocket, start thinking about a giveaway we could do for the pool. I've got 2 dual miner USB's and 2 antminer USB's we could use.
  1237. [5/9/2014 4:35:42 PM] Pocket: blackcoin's knc titan giveaway is hard to top
  1238. [5/9/2014 4:36:37 PM] Pocket: i'm thinking bonus payouts for new miners to join, like...for the first couple weeks, you have a chance at a bonus payout while mining at our pool
  1239. [5/9/2014 4:36:44 PM] Koontas: alright
  1240. [5/9/2014 4:36:47 PM] Koontas: fine w/ me
  1241. [5/9/2014 4:38:47 PM] Pocket: or...a chance at a small stake in the general fund? lol
  1242. [5/9/2014 4:38:57 PM] Pocket: or a chance at a small stake in the next venture fund
  1243. [5/9/2014 4:39:01 PM] Koontas: who's going to give up a small stake?
  1244. [5/9/2014 4:39:02 PM] Koontas: i aint.
  1245. [5/9/2014 4:39:06 PM] Pocket: yeah me neither
  1246. [5/9/2014 4:39:09 PM] Pocket: stake in the next fund then?
  1247. [5/9/2014 4:39:18 PM] Pocket: eh, could be too valuable
  1248. [5/9/2014 4:39:19 PM] Pocket: lol
  1249. [5/9/2014 4:39:20 PM] Koontas: ill let logan decide on that....
  1250. [5/9/2014 4:40:34 PM] Pocket: occasional random bonus payouts are a good incentive
  1251. [5/9/2014 4:40:42 PM] Pocket: makes mining feel less like work
  1252. [5/9/2014 4:40:53 PM] Koontas: yeah, ill see what kind of reporting we'll get
  1253. [5/9/2014 4:54:15 PM] Koontas: I would like to see some sort of income chart/graph in the wallet personally.
  1254. [5/10/2014 12:05:14 AM] Pocket: rumors of noir multipool floating around I guess
  1255. [5/10/2014 11:17:06 AM] Logan: Nothing is happening with the general fund. We can give bonus NRS to a top miner. We can just pick an amount and hand it over.
  1256. [5/10/2014 6:47:27 PM] *** Koontas has changed the conversation topic to "NG - Board" ***
  1257. [5/10/2014 6:47:35 PM] Koontas: Who has had contact with Cryptsy?
  1258. [5/10/2014 6:48:21 PM] Koontas: Logan, how would you feel about reaching out about a USD market when we get added?
  1259. [5/10/2014 7:14:21 PM] Logan: I can do that, I don't have an existing relationship though
  1260. [5/10/2014 7:14:39 PM] Logan: That said, I don't see USD/NRS being a big volume.
  1261. [5/10/2014 7:14:55 PM] Koontas: ok maybe we should wait
  1262. [5/10/2014 7:15:03 PM] Logan: compared to BTC or LTC. If you want NRS, going USD-BTC-NRS or USD-NRS doesn't really matter.
  1263. [5/10/2014 7:23:01 PM] Koontas: (y)
  1264. [5/10/2014 10:02:05 PM] Logan: Can I get a NRS & BTC address from each officer please? Just so we have a record.
  1265. [5/10/2014 10:51:15 PM] argakiig: NRS-9fkmW1TuFG2RxzjbtEvLpqyQD5Eu9j4rLx BTC-19GGjd7Vn9J7fRpgsXVnQENN7pV4eJcqVD
  1266. [5/10/2014 10:53:43 PM] Logan: 21 BTC volume, that is solid.
  1267. [5/10/2014 10:55:26 PM] argakiig: for today
  1268. [5/11/2014 1:02:22 AM] argakiig: http://nrs.argakiig.us/expl/addressexplorer.php?RichList
  1269. [5/11/2014 9:22:47 AM] Koontas: Can we have some NRS or BTC or a little of both to pay someone to work on the wallet?
  1270. [5/11/2014 9:22:57 AM] Koontas: I'd LOVE to have James do it but I know he's busy so he'd have to be paid.
  1271. [5/11/2014 9:24:41 AM] Logan: I'm fine with paying James, I dislike the price creep after the fact.
  1272. [5/11/2014 9:25:04 AM] Koontas: What do you mean?
  1273. [5/11/2014 9:27:01 AM] Logan: Last wallet update we ended up paying him an extra 40% because it took it longer than expected.
  1274. [5/11/2014 9:27:24 AM] Koontas: Ah, I'd like to propose an amount to him not the other way around.
  1275. [5/11/2014 9:27:36 AM] Koontas: Tell him we have X to do this work, do you want the job...
  1276. [5/11/2014 9:28:32 AM] Logan: We can, as long as we are firm on the price.
  1277. [5/11/2014 9:29:20 AM] Koontas: Basically these are the features I want added. Stake tab with real-time stake info, statistics tab, block explorer and daily balance tracking/stats/chart.
  1278. [5/11/2014 9:29:26 AM] Koontas: How much is that work worth?
  1279. [5/11/2014 9:30:15 AM] Koontas: what did we pay last time?
  1280. [5/11/2014 9:31:10 AM] Barwizi: our blockchain will likely have three units (rewards) for blocks
  1281. [5/11/2014 9:31:19 AM] Barwizi: we'll need to display this information
  1282. [5/11/2014 9:32:05 AM] Barwizi: the purpose of one of these units will be to represent stake in the actual company
  1283. [5/11/2014 9:32:12 AM] Barwizi: this make for liquid shares
  1284. [5/11/2014 9:32:28 AM] Logan: True.
  1285. [5/11/2014 9:33:14 AM] Logan: If we are super specific then we can be firmer on price.
  1286. [5/11/2014 9:33:37 AM] Koontas: I can be very specific, copy the SC wallet and add a tab for income tracking.
  1287. [5/11/2014 9:34:27 AM] Koontas: What about .25btc + 600 NRS?
  1288. [5/11/2014 9:34:57 AM] Barwizi: slow down
  1289. [5/11/2014 9:34:58 AM] Logan: I'm on mobile, what is that in $?
  1290. [5/11/2014 9:35:21 AM] Koontas: Barwizi, we can wait, but do we have any ETA on the features you want to add?
  1291. [5/11/2014 9:35:30 AM] Barwizi: firstly we have to decide what is easier, to add momentum and voting to SC wallet or to
  1292. [5/11/2014 9:36:03 AM] Barwizi: take current NRS codebase then make the modifications since it has stake, momentum
  1293. [5/11/2014 9:36:36 AM] Barwizi: these considerations have to be made in tandem with yvg and Arg
  1294. [5/11/2014 9:37:04 AM | Edited 9:37:14 AM] Barwizi: Lol, we are mostly the business guys, i think it's very important that the development guys take point on this one
  1295. [5/11/2014 9:37:16 AM] Koontas: Well, honestly, I have no clue what yvg and Arg are working on...
  1296. [5/11/2014 9:37:36 AM] Koontas: It's fine, I'll drop it.
  1297. [5/11/2014 9:38:06 AM] Koontas: But releasing a wallet with new features that would support the pool would be nice.
  1298. [5/11/2014 9:38:43 AM] Barwizi: I'm not saying drop it, i'm saying that at this moment, we need to make decisions after considering their input
  1299. [5/11/2014 9:39:32 AM] Barwizi: it will cut down development time and bring better coherence for this project
  1300. [5/11/2014 9:40:28 AM] Koontas: Arg, let us know what you think. If you need time to talk to yvg that's cool. I haven't said anything to James...
  1301. [5/11/2014 9:41:59 AM] Logan: Oh totally. I don't think that we are making a commitment, I think we are just spit balling ideas.
  1302. [5/11/2014 9:42:43 AM] Logan: Whether we fork and add ours or just add the same features is beyond me.
  1303. [5/11/2014 9:43:30 AM] Logan: I would just love to move the chains on some of this ideas and silk has already made some headway.
  1304. [5/11/2014 9:44:48 AM] Koontas: Plus I believe adding a tab to track daily income would be awesome IMO. Thinking selectable date range with a bar chart showing income by address. Maybe even ability to select addresses to include.
  1305. [5/11/2014 9:57:02 AM] argakiig: I will have to check this out later. Wife decided since today isb mothers day and she is a new mother it means no computer for me today. So will be out of touch sorry
  1306. [5/11/2014 9:57:39 AM] Koontas: No worries man, enjoy!
  1307. [5/11/2014 10:01:42 AM] Logan: Haha Ditto, she isn't complaining about my phone yet.
  1308. [5/11/2014 10:03:20 AM] Pocket: (y)
  1309. [5/11/2014 10:07:23 AM] argakiig: yeah
  1310. [5/11/2014 10:07:24 AM] argakiig: same
  1311. [5/11/2014 11:33:42 AM] cass: Hi noirds …hope you're doing well … anything i could assist on currently ..just drop me a line
  1312. [5/11/2014 11:36:46 AM] Logan: Did you do everything for the pool? I remember there being a few items.
  1313. [5/11/2014 11:37:35 AM] cass: oh ? then i guess i have not ?
  1314. [5/11/2014 2:03:51 PM] Pocket: can we change the white bar on noirpool
  1315. [5/11/2014 2:29:37 PM] Koontas: Cass is your man.
  1316. [5/11/2014 2:29:57 PM] Koontas: I am not a designer by any means guys so provide cass any feedback on the pool skin.
  1317. [5/11/2014 2:30:11 PM] Pocket: cass, can we change the white bar on the pool
  1318. [5/11/2014 4:12:37 PM] cass: sure
  1319. [5/11/2014 4:12:41 PM] cass: dark ?
  1320. [5/11/2014 5:32:05 PM] Pocket: Ya
  1321. [5/11/2014 6:24:39 PM] Koontas: I need input...should we display the coins we're mining on the pool?
  1322. [5/11/2014 6:24:50 PM] Koontas: FYI - the multipools I've seen do not
  1323. [5/11/2014 6:25:16 PM] argakiig: I don't see the need for it
  1324. [5/11/2014 6:41:26 PM] Koontas: Does anyone else have an opinion?
  1325. [5/11/2014 6:41:32 PM] Koontas: I honestly don't see a benefit.
  1326. [5/11/2014 6:41:48 PM] Koontas: It is a decent change for them on the front end.
  1327. [5/11/2014 6:48:39 PM] Koontas: Also, the LC IPO just sold out in 30 minutes. Raised 75 btc.
  1328. [5/11/2014 6:58:55 PM] Logan: I think we can show the coins we are mining, plus it makes the front page pretty
  1329. [5/11/2014 7:01:01 PM] Koontas: We'll keep as is for rollout...
  1330. [5/11/2014 7:01:18 PM] Koontas: Eventually I'd love to see our pool/website as one.
  1331. [5/11/2014 7:14:12 PM] Pocket: Can link or forward?
  1332. [5/11/2014 7:14:21 PM] Pocket: Or... Build a mini portal
  1333. [5/11/2014 7:41:49 PM] Koontas: I re-read the email from John Ogden...doesn't sound like he'd be doing anything we can't do.
  1334. [5/11/2014 7:42:25 PM] Koontas: Or anything we shouldn't already be doing.
  1335. [5/11/2014 7:45:30 PM] Logan: Can you refresh my memory? Who is this?
  1336. [5/11/2014 7:54:58 PM] Koontas: Pocket got a marketing proposal from him.
  1337. [5/11/2014 8:09:12 PM] Pocket: Yeah its mainly accessing a community base we may not be a part of or who may or know about us
  1338. [5/11/2014 8:12:58 PM] Logan: LCL is getting a hard time in the poly chat
  1339. [5/11/2014 8:14:49 PM] Logan: Jesus, LCL just got opened
  1340. [5/11/2014 8:15:00 PM] Koontas: yup
  1341. [5/11/2014 8:15:04 PM] Koontas: time to dump...
  1342. [5/11/2014 8:15:05 PM] Koontas: lol
  1343. [5/11/2014 8:19:00 PM] Koontas: Spent .176btc for 175, sold 75 for .22btc
  1344. [5/12/2014 7:12:11 AM] Logan: I did okay swing trading lcl, managed to get out when I saw the volume fading.
  1345. [5/12/2014 7:13:22 AM] Logan: Speaking of volume, NRS is getting a lot of volume. It is nice to see our coin recognized in the community more.
  1346. [5/12/2014 10:56:25 AM] Pocket: do we mention bitcrypter or the guys behind building the pool in the marketing
  1347. [5/12/2014 10:59:12 AM] Pocket: also what % is taken out of miners profits and split to gen fund, noir group, etc
  1348. [5/12/2014 11:02:43 AM] Pocket: also, is there a possibility of miner affiliates, ie: i may or may not be mining at noirpool, but if a miner uses my affiliate ID then I will get a % of their mined profits
  1349. [5/12/2014 11:09:44 AM] Koontas: Yes, we should give them some credit, absolutely.
  1350. [5/12/2014 11:10:46 AM] Pocket: ok, do i plug them as bitcrypter
  1351. [5/12/2014 11:10:53 AM] Koontas: yes, confirm with grndnpnd
  1352. [5/12/2014 11:11:27 AM] Koontas: NG gets 75% of pool fees, ill let logan comment on how much goes to shareholders...i think we discussed 50%?
  1353. [5/12/2014 11:24:06 AM] Pocket: 75 + 50 = 125
  1354. [5/12/2014 11:26:12 AM] argakiig: no of that 75% 50% would goto the shareholders
  1355. [5/12/2014 11:26:35 AM] Pocket: ok
  1356. [5/12/2014 11:30:22 AM] Koontas: 50% to shareholders 25% to NG savings
  1357. [5/12/2014 11:30:40 AM] Koontas: so 50% of pool fees to shareholders, period
  1358. [5/12/2014 11:31:18 AM] Pocket: got it
  1359. [5/12/2014 11:54:11 AM] Pocket: first draft https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dr_Zd2plIvg_acRCiWlwout_ANasL9agQFiOLN_EQvw/edit?usp=sharing
  1360. [5/12/2014 11:54:16 AM] Pocket: of marketing plan
  1361. [5/12/2014 2:07:53 PM] Pocket: pool pays out in choice of NRS or BTC ? or just NRS?
  1362. [5/12/2014 2:09:30 PM] Koontas: just NRS...
  1363. [5/12/2014 2:10:18 PM] Pocket: k
  1364. [5/12/2014 2:21:17 PM] Pocket: http://poolpicker.eu/
  1365. [5/12/2014 2:21:45 PM] Koontas: yep, nice blackcoinpool ad
  1366. [5/12/2014 2:22:41 PM] Koontas: wow
  1367. [5/12/2014 2:22:47 PM] Koontas: their new pool looks pretty nice
  1368. [5/12/2014 2:23:32 PM] argakiig: so they tied it to accounts again
  1369. [5/12/2014 2:23:33 PM] Pocket: nice logo legion
  1370. [5/12/2014 2:23:59 PM] Koontas: yea arg, they did
  1371. [5/12/2014 2:24:09 PM] argakiig: stupid
  1372. [5/12/2014 2:24:10 PM] Pocket: irc in pool
  1373. [5/12/2014 2:24:19 PM] Koontas: looks good, but i'm not a fan of accounts
  1374. [5/12/2014 2:24:38 PM] argakiig: one of the features of NOMP was to get away from accounts
  1375. [5/12/2014 2:29:32 PM] Koontas: Ya know what would be awesome functionality on the pool...having the ability to split up power between multiple coins on the back end, having one of them be a new "ipominer" type coin, saving them then dumping when we can for NRS. Risky but may pay off big.
  1376. [5/12/2014 2:29:41 PM] Koontas: CureCoin, if it ever launches would be one of those coins...
  1377. [5/12/2014 3:12:20 PM] Koontas: This isn't good: http://puu.sh/8JUyo/b779250e07.png
  1378. [5/12/2014 3:15:17 PM] Koontas: ^^^ We need to have a conversation about this when most if not all of us are here.
  1379. [5/12/2014 3:16:10 PM] Koontas: I need someone to explain to me why this is an issue with PTS...people use coin code all the time, why is NRS an issue?
  1380. [5/12/2014 3:16:42 PM] Pocket: should we ask him abouti t
  1381. [5/12/2014 3:17:19 PM] Koontas: I want us to discuss and understand what's going on first, but yes, eventually we may need someone to discuss with him.
  1382. [5/12/2014 3:17:34 PM] Koontas: I know there's a background as it's been briefly mentioned before.
  1383. [5/12/2014 3:17:57 PM] Koontas: But I'm not too familiar with PTS and their licensing or whatever...
  1384. [5/12/2014 3:19:15 PM] Pocket: wafflepool.com basically being the pool for any coin that asks
  1385. [5/12/2014 4:14:17 PM] Logan: Wow, that is such bullshit, someone paid good money to get added but John suddenly has developed a conscience about he adds to the site?
  1386. [5/12/2014 4:14:43 PM] argakiig: thats how im feeling
  1387. [5/12/2014 4:14:46 PM] Logan: Talk about being a picky whore.
  1388. [5/12/2014 4:15:08 PM] Pocket: investments feeling threatened
  1389. [5/12/2014 4:15:10 PM] Koontas: Shall we just ignore it until he raises it to someone on the team?
  1390. [5/12/2014 4:15:29 PM] argakiig: you really think hes going to confront us
  1391. [5/12/2014 4:15:38 PM] Koontas: nope, i think he'll add it
  1392. [5/12/2014 4:15:47 PM] argakiig: basically though i say we wait till next add
  1393. [5/12/2014 4:15:49 PM] argakiig: see what they do
  1394. [5/12/2014 4:15:51 PM] Koontas: yep
  1395. [5/12/2014 4:16:25 PM] Logan: Yeah, what else are we going to do? We are not going to give away 20%
  1396. [5/12/2014 4:16:37 PM] Logan: Which seems absolutely crazy to me.
  1397. [5/12/2014 4:16:53 PM] Logan: That percentage hurts them more than anything.
  1398. [5/12/2014 4:17:18 PM] argakiig: if they feel they need to do something, they can do it, but honestly it should come out of their fee's not the userbase
  1399. [5/12/2014 4:19:35 PM] Koontas: Okay, we'll see what happens. No point in speculating just based on one comment.
  1400. [5/12/2014 4:19:49 PM] Koontas: Just wanted to know why PTS may feel we owe them, that I don't get.
  1401. [5/12/2014 4:19:52 PM] Koontas: On a good note...
  1402. [5/12/2014 4:20:20 PM] Koontas: I had a conversation with yvg about the features that I proposed we add to the wallet and he said it would not conflict with the development they are working on.
  1403. [5/12/2014 4:20:21 PM] Logan: If Barwizi agreed to honor the social consensus and got pumped really heavy by the I3 team and received a ton of support, supporters, and resources from them and then turned his back on them then you could say there is a wrong that should be righted. That was never the case and we started from zero.
  1404. [5/12/2014 4:20:32 PM] Koontas: I will put together a vote to be held later tonight.
  1405. [5/12/2014 4:20:45 PM] Koontas: That's a good point Logan.
  1406. [5/12/2014 4:22:01 PM] Logan: Yeah, I think this sense of entitlement is bullshit. If someone forked darksend, would we see pitchforks? No, not at all, it would be business as usual.
  1407. [5/12/2014 4:26:02 PM] Logan: When Barwizi proposed to give PTS 5% instead of 20% to PTS and AGS, I3 removed his thread completely. That was a dick move and so they ended up with nothing and that is completely fair.
  1408. [5/12/2014 4:30:58 PM] Koontas: Seems fair to me.
  1409. [5/12/2014 4:37:23 PM] Koontas: NEW VOTE FOR WALLET UPDATES: https://tricider.com/en/admin/1ZaUe/3kW89I
  1410. [5/12/2014 4:42:20 PM] Logan: Koontas and I have discussed pricing and This is a fair deal given the trajectory of NRS.
  1411. [5/12/2014 5:02:46 PM] Koontas: Pocket, those prices from coinchoose are actually very reasonable.
  1412. [5/12/2014 5:03:12 PM] Koontas: FYI for everyone else 1.2btc/month for one of the 3 top spots or .6btc/month for one of the lower spots on the page.
  1413. [5/12/2014 5:03:23 PM] Koontas: 12k unique visitors per day
  1414. [5/12/2014 5:03:27 PM] Koontas: 42k page views per day
  1415. [5/12/2014 5:03:33 PM] Koontas: 600+ referring sites
  1416. [5/12/2014 5:17:18 PM] Logan: Wait, are you fucking kidding me? That whole chart is bullshit payspots?
  1417. [5/12/2014 5:18:46 PM] Logan: Jesus, that is like paying Google for search results, sure you can but that is gross.
  1418. [5/12/2014 5:19:29 PM] Pocket: Worth a gamble
  1419. [5/12/2014 5:22:15 PM] Logan: Sorry, I can't get behind that. It is blatant lying for money, it is gross.
  1420. [5/12/2014 5:23:19 PM] Logan: If we are the most profitable coin, great, if not, we can't pay someone to say that we are. It is fraudulent and disgusting.
  1421. [5/12/2014 5:24:40 PM] Logan: This isn't paying for an ad saying that mining for us is great, this is straight up lying to miners to trick them into using our multi pool.
  1422. [5/12/2014 5:25:01 PM] argakiig: logan they are talking about the adds
  1423. [5/12/2014 5:25:17 PM] argakiig: example being
  1424. [5/12/2014 5:25:18 PM] argakiig: http://puu.sh/8K4XI.jpg
  1425. [5/12/2014 5:25:20 PM] argakiig: currently
  1426. [5/12/2014 5:25:27 PM] argakiig: not placement in ranking
  1427. [5/12/2014 5:25:50 PM] Logan: Oh boy... this is embarrassing...
  1428. [5/12/2014 5:26:10 PM] Logan: Ffs, someone couldn't stop me mid rant?
  1429. [5/12/2014 5:26:21 PM | Edited 5:26:25 PM] Koontas: yea, just the ads
  1430. [5/12/2014 5:26:36 PM] Koontas: sorry, i just got back lol
  1431. [5/12/2014 5:26:40 PM] argakiig: i just got back as well
  1432. [5/12/2014 5:26:42 PM] argakiig: it was funny
  1433. [5/12/2014 5:26:43 PM] argakiig: :P
  1434. [5/12/2014 5:27:13 PM] Logan: I just ranted for ten minutes on this. I'm so sad right now.
  1435. [5/12/2014 5:27:23 PM] Koontas: Sorry man.
  1436. [5/12/2014 5:27:28 PM] Koontas: was away from my desk
  1437. [5/12/2014 5:27:34 PM] Logan: Sigh...
  1438. [5/12/2014 5:27:37 PM] argakiig: yeah sorry, been there. was helping wife with baby bath
  1439. [5/12/2014 5:29:05 PM] Logan: Baby bath already? That is early, 6pm is our bath time.
  1440. [5/12/2014 5:29:37 PM] argakiig: its hot
  1441. [5/12/2014 5:29:46 PM] Pocket: Lol I'm driving
  1442. [5/12/2014 5:29:49 PM] argakiig: and baby managed to pee on himself
  1443. [5/12/2014 5:29:52 PM] Pocket: Logan hahahah
  1444. [5/12/2014 5:29:59 PM] argakiig: plus its 530
  1445. [5/12/2014 5:32:03 PM] Logan: At least he didn't poop in a pool...
  1446. [5/12/2014 5:32:23 PM] Logan: Thanks for the support Pocket.
  1447. [5/12/2014 5:32:36 PM] Pocket: Still driving!
  1448. [5/12/2014 6:23:33 PM] Koontas: Some text that was provided for the pool posts:

Want to earn the most Noirshares (NRS) for your hashrate? Want to use ASIC hardware and still receive payouts in NRS? Want to take advantage of the highest performance multi-pool switching algorithms? Tired of clone coins and ready for something better? Join Noirpool and let a dedicated team of developers help grow your investment.
  1449.  
  1450. Announcing Noirpool; the most profitable way to earn Noirshares (NRS). Noirpool supports both Scrypt and SHA-256 mining – allowing ASICs to participate in one of the most advanced and profitable alternative currency markets available. How is Noirpool more profitable than direct mining? Profit-switching: Noirpool uses custom-scripted algorithms which mine only the most profitable alternative currencies. The resulting coins, which do not have the long-term portfolio potential of Noirshares, are traded for NRS on a variety of exchanges at irregular intervals – ensuring steady buy support for NRS as well as paying out larger shares to miners compared to mining NRS alone.
  1451.  
  1452. In addition to advanced multi-port profit switching, Noirpool uses dedicated DDOS-protected servers, a custom-optimized backend, supports both GPU and ASIC mining, and pays out directly in Noirshares - one of the fastest growing and technologically advanced cryptocurrencies available.
  1453. [5/12/2014 6:30:38 PM] Barwizi: i'm in
  1454. [5/12/2014 6:30:46 PM] Barwizi: fuck that shit from bitjohn
  1455. [5/12/2014 6:31:00 PM] Barwizi: the fuck does he think happened?
  1456. [5/12/2014 6:32:07 PM] Koontas: Honestly not sure... I'm assuming he holds quite a bit.
  1457. [5/12/2014 6:32:21 PM] Barwizi: even the originator of momentum clearly stated that PTS and NRS were two different codebases, to hell with giving even 0.001 NRS to all PTS holders. i think he's just a sore bag holder trying to strong arm us
  1458. [5/12/2014 6:32:52 PM] Koontas: We'll leave it alone and see if it comes up again, no reason to discuss it until he comes to us.
  1459. [5/12/2014 6:32:52 PM] Barwizi: anyway good shit speaks for it'self
  1460. [5/12/2014 6:33:04 PM] Koontas: (y)
  1461. [5/12/2014 6:33:38 PM] Koontas: I'm assuming he isn't smart enough to buy while it's cheap and wants a handout.
  1462. [5/12/2014 6:34:49 PM] Barwizi: we'll they are all in for a rude wake up cal
  1463. [5/12/2014 6:35:30 PM] Barwizi: we do not owe them shit, he should even be tankful we are letting them add us, after all someone is paying them
  1464. [5/12/2014 6:36:02 PM] Koontas: I'm going to reach out to MintPal right now and talk to them.
  1465. [5/12/2014 6:55:57 PM] Koontas: We should put the miners on CureCoin...
  1466. [5/12/2014 6:57:48 PM] Logan: I am on board with that
  1467. [5/12/2014 6:58:32 PM] Logan: I think the meaningful nature of the calculations will get a lot of press
  1468. [5/12/2014 7:00:10 PM] Koontas: Barwizi, can we move over?
  1469. [5/12/2014 7:04:52 PM] Barwizi: oh, it's sha256?
  1470. [5/12/2014 7:04:57 PM] Barwizi: give me a link
  1471. [5/12/2014 7:05:08 PM] Barwizi: Bitjohn just responded
  1472. [5/12/2014 7:06:38 PM] Koontas: just PM'd
  1473. [5/12/2014 7:06:39 PM] Koontas: what did he say?
  1474. [5/12/2014 7:29:55 PM] Koontas: From leaserig.net re: advertising space:
Make an offer.
  1475.  
  1476. If you are looking for stats, make an offer priced per 10K sessions or 100K pageviews. It's doubtful adspace will get approved but it's certain that it won't get approved without an offer.
  1477. [5/12/2014 7:30:33 PM] Pocket: oh interesting approach, rig mining sites
  1478. [5/12/2014 7:32:11 PM] Pocket: i wouldn't pay more than coinchoose for the same number of impressions that's for sure
  1479. [5/12/2014 7:32:30 PM] Pocket: rig rental sits
  1480. [5/12/2014 7:32:31 PM] Pocket: sites
  1481. [5/12/2014 8:24:06 PM] Koontas: Anyone around?
  1482. [5/12/2014 8:24:16 PM] Pocket: ;]
  1483. [5/12/2014 8:24:22 PM] Koontas: I have both SHA and scrypt power on the pool right now testing.
  1484. [5/12/2014 8:24:43 PM] Koontas: I have requested a TON of front end updates today that cass will be working on.
  1485. [5/12/2014 8:25:23 PM] Koontas: I will know within a couple hours whether or not the pool can be considered complete in time for the midnight deadline.
  1486. [5/12/2014 8:28:59 PM] argakiig: I am sha and script as well
  1487. [5/12/2014 8:29:05 PM] argakiig: and rented some hash
  1488. [5/12/2014 8:29:12 PM] argakiig: for 3hrs on sha
  1489. [5/12/2014 10:24:00 PM] Koontas: FYI - I have not heard back from James on the proposal for qt updates.
  1490. [5/12/2014 10:24:45 PM] Koontas: Also, the pool is complete for the deadline of midnight tonight. Still some front end work and coin adjustments to be made, but the pool is functional.
  1491. [5/12/2014 10:24:54 PM] Koontas: If anyone wants to test, let me know.
  1492. [5/12/2014 10:25:11 PM | Edited 10:25:18 PM] Koontas: Logan, we'll need to get Barwizi an NRS address for the payments once we put the miners on the pool.
  1493. [5/12/2014 10:34:20 PM] Pocket: is NRS snapshot going to be like an IPO? like pts? is it transformation or addition?
  1494. [5/12/2014 10:43:21 PM] Barwizi: snapshot is just a record of balances at that moment
  1495. [5/12/2014 10:43:43 PM] Pocket: right, but we'd do it with the intention of moving in a new direction
  1496. [5/12/2014 10:46:53 PM] Barwizi: mostly used for new products, but can be used for blcokchain migration
  1497. [5/13/2014 10:09:58 AM] Logan: I spoke with the local fiat exchanges. They don't have the volume on their existing alt coins to justify expanding to additional alts such as NRS. Disappointed but I can understand.
  1498. [5/13/2014 10:27:15 AM] Pocket: are we announcing anything else with the multipool
  1499. [5/13/2014 10:27:28 AM] Koontas: No, wallet updates will come later.
  1500. [5/13/2014 10:27:45 AM] Pocket: gen fund letter https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dUGCztPqL-estfBk6plRLalDC-OP96pa9fHkGSJv1IA/edit?usp=sharing
  1501. [5/13/2014 10:28:39 AM] argakiig: Not war chest please
  1502. [5/13/2014 10:30:25 AM] Pocket: bankroll, savings, rainy day fund, coffers, just Noir Group
  1503. [5/13/2014 10:30:46 AM] Logan: I don't want to roll out any news on anything until we are close to delivery. This space has too much hype on shit that isn't coming out for six months.
  1504. [5/13/2014 10:31:03 AM] Pocket: the pool is ready i thought
  1505. [5/13/2014 10:31:07 AM] Koontas: Yes, absolutely not yet.
  1506. [5/13/2014 10:31:14 AM] Logan: Drop bold all caps on "our"
  1507. [5/13/2014 10:31:22 AM] Koontas: Patience...
  1508. [5/13/2014 10:31:27 AM] Logan: Pool is at least a week away
  1509. [5/13/2014 10:31:32 AM] Logan: At least.
  1510. [5/13/2014 10:31:43 AM] Koontas: Must test test test
  1511. [5/13/2014 10:31:49 AM] Koontas: clean up the front end a bit
  1512. [5/13/2014 10:32:41 AM] Logan: The pool will not automatically distribute profits to shareholders at first.
  1513. [5/13/2014 10:33:18 AM] Pocket: oh, we need a chart of NRS/BTC addies for gen fund members
  1514. [5/13/2014 10:33:29 AM] Koontas: Correct. We also need to collect NRS and BTC addresses from shareholders.
  1515. [5/13/2014 10:34:07 AM] Logan: Change "mailing address" to contact information and drop "the internet"
  1516. [5/13/2014 10:35:26 AM] argakiig: I can write up a script that we can use to autopayout when the time comes
  1517. [5/13/2014 10:35:40 AM] Koontas: Here is some inspiration:
  1518. [Monday, May 12, 2014 5:58 PM] Grndnpnd:
  1519.  
  1520. <<< Noirpool – the most profitable and flexible method of mining Noirshares.
  1521.  
  1522. Want to earn the most Noirshares (NRS) for your hashrate? Want to use ASIC hardware and still receive payouts in NRS? Want to take advantage of the highest performance multi-pool switching algorithms? Tired of clone coins and ready for something better? Join Noirpool and let a dedicated team of developers help grow your investment.
  1523.  
  1524. Announcing Noirpool; the most profitable way to earn Noirshares (NRS). Noirpool supports both Scrypt and SHA-256 mining – allowing ASICs to participate in one of the most advanced and profitable alternative currency markets available. How is Noirpool more profitable than direct mining? Profit-switching: Noirpool uses custom-scripted algorithms which mine only the most profitable alternative currencies. The resulting coins, which do not have the long-term portfolio potential of Noirshares, are traded for NRS on a variety of exchanges at irregular intervals – ensuring steady buy support for NRS as well as paying out larger shares to miners compared to mining NRS alone.
  1525.  
  1526. In addition to advanced multi-port profit switching, Noirpool uses dedicated DDOS-protected servers, a custom-optimized backend, supports both GPU and ASIC mining, and pays out directly in Noirshares - one of the fastest growing and technologically advanced cryptocurrencies available
  1527. [5/13/2014 10:39:34 AM] Logan: Great
  1528. [5/13/2014 11:39:42 AM] Pocket: do people not in the general fund need to know about the % profit split from pool to general fund shareholders
  1529. [5/13/2014 11:40:30 AM] argakiig: I don't know why they would need to know
  1530. [5/13/2014 11:40:54 AM] Pocket: for noirshares holders who want to jump into the next venture fund, it shows some transparency and hard numbers
  1531. [5/13/2014 11:44:08 AM] Koontas: Eh I dont think they need numbers...
  1532. [5/13/2014 11:44:18 AM] Pocket: k
  1533. [5/13/2014 11:45:14 AM] Logan: Just say profits as the 25% to the group will be used to cover expenses.
  1534. [5/13/2014 11:50:04 AM] Pocket: the general fund is gonna do more things beyond this pool yeah? this isn't the end of the general fund
  1535. [5/13/2014 11:50:23 AM] Pocket: and there will be another venture fund opening for other projects
  1536. [5/13/2014 11:50:34 AM] Barwizi: miners are still on curecoin and the pool
  1537. [5/13/2014 11:50:38 AM] Koontas: yes and yes
  1538. [5/13/2014 11:52:14 AM] Logan: Of course. The general fund is really another way of saying "group members" or individual inactive partners.
  1539. [5/13/2014 11:53:02 AM] Logan: This is just a partnership that we are custodians of until the members decide to replace us.
  1540. [5/13/2014 11:54:05 AM] Pocket: if
  1541. [5/13/2014 11:54:43 AM] Pocket: :D
  1542. [5/13/2014 11:55:01 AM] Pocket: they seem pretty happy so far...
  1543. [5/13/2014 11:57:05 AM] Logan: Yep, I think they will continue to be as long as we work hard to provide value.
  1544. [5/13/2014 4:14:17 PM] Logan: For our ads, we should look exclusively at ppc, only miners will click through.
  1545. [5/13/2014 4:14:30 PM] Pocket: i agree
  1546. [5/13/2014 4:15:19 PM] Pocket: IF...we were a pool solely for the profit of the pool and the miners... but i don't think noirpool is the most profitable pool at 3% fee
  1547. [5/13/2014 4:17:52 PM] Logan: Jesus take the wheel, what are you talking about.
  1548. [5/13/2014 4:19:04 PM] Pocket: we don't have an advantage over other pools in terms of straight payouts
  1549. [5/13/2014 4:19:05 PM] Pocket: i don't think
  1550. [5/13/2014 4:20:19 PM] Pocket: though i guess it's subjective to each individual miner's thoughts on a coin's profitability
  1551. [5/13/2014 4:20:27 PM] Logan: Of course not, what does that have to do with advertising?
  1552. [5/13/2014 4:20:27 PM] Pocket: anyway ppc is still the best option besides banners
  1553. [5/13/2014 4:20:51 PM] Pocket: koontas mentioned machine rental sites too, which sounds ok also
  1554. [5/13/2014 4:21:10 PM] Pocket: i think it depends on how much per click?
  1555. [5/13/2014 4:21:23 PM] Pocket: let me look into it real quick
  1556. [5/13/2014 4:22:00 PM] Logan: The banners are aimed at miners so having to pay for click through eliminates having to pay for everyone else that we want to expose our brand to but don't want to use our pool.
  1557. [5/13/2014 4:24:46 PM] Pocket: what search term would you use if you're a miner on google looking for the best multipool
  1558. [5/13/2014 4:24:49 PM] Pocket: ...best multipool?
  1559. [5/13/2014 4:24:50 PM] Pocket: lol
  1560. [5/13/2014 4:25:33 PM] Pocket: ok so...google adwords is about $1 per click
  1561. [5/13/2014 4:26:19 PM] Pocket: there's 14800 monthly searches for multipool vs terms like scrypt asic which gets 6600 searches
  1562. [5/13/2014 4:26:41 PM] Pocket: sha256 mining gets 50 searches a month
  1563. [5/13/2014 4:26:58 PM] Pocket: best mining pool / multipool get like 100 searches a month
  1564. [5/13/2014 4:27:05 PM] Pocket: $1 per click...
  1565. [5/13/2014 4:28:43 PM] Logan: I would not use Google adwords. It doesn't get to the guys with the big rigs. Hell, I have searched for best multipool and I have 80 mhz.
  1566. [5/13/2014 4:28:51 PM] Pocket: checking reddit right now
  1567. [5/13/2014 4:29:57 PM] Pocket: no adspace available on reddit for the subreddits bitcoinmining litecoinmining and cryptocurrency
  1568. [5/13/2014 4:30:01 PM] Pocket: all bought out
  1569. [5/13/2014 4:30:17 PM] Pocket: where do the guys with the asic machines look
  1570. [5/13/2014 4:31:16 PM] Logan: Where would you look if you had a massive asic rig?
  1571. [5/13/2014 4:32:47 PM] Pocket: i've not done much mining
  1572. [5/13/2014 4:32:50 PM] Pocket: coinwarz i guess
  1573. [5/13/2014 4:33:13 PM] Logan: ...
  1574. [5/13/2014 4:36:52 PM] Pocket: http://bitcoinchain.com/pools
  1575. [5/13/2014 4:36:56 PM] Pocket: pretty cool
  1576. [5/13/2014 4:37:13 PM] Koontas: Honestly, I think a good idea would be joining as many facebook groups as possible and posting in there.
  1577. [5/13/2014 4:37:42 PM] Koontas: There's a good group called Cryptocoin Speculators that has a lot of activity. You'd have to join with your real profile though.
  1578. [5/13/2014 4:43:11 PM] Pocket: big miners know what they're doing in crypto, i don't think they really search the web for coins to mine
  1579. [5/13/2014 4:43:38 PM] Logan: Sorry, I'm still stuck on "coinwarz" being a legitimate suggestion...
  1580. [5/13/2014 4:44:11 PM] Pocket: where would you look
  1581. [5/13/2014 4:44:25 PM] Pocket: i assume most big money miners are in btc
  1582. [5/13/2014 4:44:40 PM] Koontas: barwizi does not want to pay for advertising...
  1583. [5/13/2014 4:44:54 PM] Pocket: well, we've done pretty good without paying for it so far
  1584. [5/13/2014 4:45:28 PM] Logan: Fucking coinwarz?
  1585. [5/13/2014 4:50:32 PM] Pocket: if we're paying for it, maybe bitcointalk?
  1586. [5/13/2014 4:51:20 PM] Koontas: i think they do some auction shit
  1587. [5/13/2014 5:10:15 PM] Logan: Coinwarz
  1588. [5/13/2014 7:21:08 PM | Edited 7:21:30 PM] Koontas: So, time to move our miners onto noirpool like we voted on?
  1589. [5/13/2014 7:21:53 PM] Koontas: It's ready for us.
  1590. [5/13/2014 7:22:29 PM] Logan: I would like to wait a few days until the issues are ironed out
  1591. [5/13/2014 7:23:09 PM] Koontas: alright
  1592. [5/13/2014 7:36:36 PM] Pocket: hey koontas
  1593. [5/13/2014 7:36:39 PM] Pocket: what was that guys idea
  1594. [5/13/2014 7:37:05 PM] Koontas: eh?
  1595. [5/13/2014 7:37:36 PM] Pocket: the guy on bct thread who wanted to tell us his idea
  1596. [5/13/2014 7:41:55 PM] Koontas: I am formally pro active about Noirshares as a business and also a shareholder in
  1597. the company.
  1598.  
  1599. I will show you my next phase which you can use as a general fund to financial
  1600. freedom.
  1601.  
  1602. My next phase is to tackle the bitcoin financial market since mining will only
  1603. generate a lot of power and only gaining little pieces of the true money that's out
  1604. there. The real money right now is the volatile state of the bitcoin price.
  1605.  
  1606. First, let me take you to a blog
  1607.  
  1608. http://99bitcoins.com/btc-robot-review-real-results-from-bitcointalk-users-scam/
  1609.  
  1610. Now with this I assume with your teams knowledge and background one can say that
  1611. something like this can be done. A possible way to control the actions of the
  1612. market.
  1613.  
  1614. I am not one for building programs but only taking a path which I will try. The
  1615. market right now is almost bottoming out on the price. Which futures seeing at
  1616. possibly in the 300 per U/S dollars can truly understand that this robot might work.
  1617. What I mean is the only way to go is up. It was the price that the robot was showing
  1618. not the Bitcoins it accumulated and that's what we need right now to fund the
  1619. company.
  1620.  
  1621. Remember. Phones are bitcoin ready. Web browsers are coming online. Merchants are
  1622. gearing up and estimators are predicting that 17 million bitcoin wallets will be
  1623. born this year.
  1624.  
  1625. It's a thought.
  1626.  
  1627. Yours truly,
  1628.  
  1629. Nrsinv
  1630. [5/13/2014 7:45:30 PM] Pocket: lol what
  1631. [5/13/2014 7:45:37 PM] Pocket: that's his idea
  1632. [5/13/2014 7:45:42 PM] Pocket: for us to use a trading bot
  1633. [5/13/2014 7:46:35 PM] Koontas: i don't even get it
  1634. [5/13/2014 7:47:18 PM] Logan: wtf?
  1635. [5/13/2014 7:47:48 PM] Logan: 17 million BTC wallets will be created this year? wtf does that have to do with us?
  1636. [5/13/2014 7:48:13 PM] Koontas: I don't get it...
  1637. [5/13/2014 7:48:31 PM] Logan: No kidding, what is there to get?
  1638. [5/13/2014 7:48:42 PM] Pocket: has to be a troll
  1639. [5/13/2014 9:21:13 PM] Logan: I didn't receive btc/nrs accounts for everyone, could you please get these to me soon as possible?
  1640. [5/13/2014 9:36:51 PM] argakiig: You have mine correct?
  1641. [5/13/2014 9:37:44 PM] Logan: Yes
  1642. [5/13/2014 10:43:01 PM] Koontas: Pocket, you should probably send an email to all investors requesting BTC and NRS addresses. At some point we'll need to combine btctalk name, email address, %, BTC addy, NRS addy.
  1643. [5/13/2014 10:43:19 PM] Koontas: Arg is putting something together to make payouts super easy for Logan.
  1644. [5/13/2014 10:43:21 PM] Pocket: yea, i already made a new chart based off the email list you gave me
  1645. [5/13/2014 10:43:35 PM] Pocket: i will send out email blast for that info and make a new chart
  1646. [5/13/2014 10:43:37 PM] Koontas: should compare that to Logan's investor list
  1647. [5/13/2014 10:43:43 PM] Pocket: yea
  1648. [5/13/2014 11:02:39 PM] Barwizi: wow, i decided to compare costs for mining with a friend in san diego
  1649. [5/13/2014 11:03:17 PM] Barwizi: he's paying $185/kwh
  1650. [5/13/2014 11:04:33 PM] Barwizi: thats ~$900 per month for 5 rigs, no wonder people arent buying hardware that much
  1651. [5/13/2014 11:07:42 PM] Barwizi: the chinese supplier is charging $225 to host
  1652. [5/13/2014 11:08:20 PM] Barwizi: so i decided to google the average price of electricity
  1653. [5/13/2014 11:08:58 PM] Barwizi: and realized both Russia and Zim actually have low rates in comparison to the rest of the world
  1654. [5/13/2014 11:09:36 PM] Barwizi: :D
  1655. [5/15/2014 10:18:52 AM] argakiig: where are the miners pointed?
  1656. [5/15/2014 10:19:03 AM] argakiig: or do we only have 1THS up right now?
  1657. [5/15/2014 10:19:12 AM] Pocket: last i heard it was cureconi?
  1658. [5/15/2014 10:19:50 AM] Logan: Curecoin
  1659. [5/15/2014 10:20:08 AM] argakiig: k was just wondering
  1660. [5/15/2014 10:20:41 AM] Koontas: Anyone hear from Barwizi?
  1661. [5/15/2014 10:32:25 AM | Edited 10:32:57 AM] Koontas: I am not handling any discussions or negotiations that require payment anymore. Whoever holds the NRS/BTC will be responsible for making any deals until this shit gets squared away. I'm sick of people asking when they'll be paid and not being able to give them an answer. It makes us look like amateurs.
  1662. [5/15/2014 10:36:09 AM] Koontas: Also, I should note I'm the one who personally had to sign the contract so again, I'm personally responsible.
  1663. [5/15/2014 10:36:20 AM] Koontas: Again, not the way things should be.
  1664. [5/15/2014 10:36:59 AM] Pocket: all the funds are in barwizi control yeah
  1665. [5/15/2014 10:37:16 AM] Koontas: Everything is in Barwizi's control.
  1666. [5/15/2014 10:37:21 AM] Pocket: this is why some dev needs to make group wallet with multi-sig transaction approval
  1667. [5/15/2014 10:37:50 AM] Pocket: any person with the wallet info can start the transaction, but the approved group members need to give their consent to the transaction approval
  1668. [5/15/2014 10:38:15 AM] Koontas: I don't care about that right now. There are easy, easy solutions to these issues.
  1669. [5/15/2014 10:38:29 AM] Pocket: you mean like barwizi just making the payments lol
  1670. [5/15/2014 10:38:40 AM] Koontas: And control of the miners.
  1671. [5/15/2014 10:39:03 AM] Koontas: They WERE on Curecoin, but they're definitely not now...
  1672. [5/15/2014 10:39:10 AM] Pocket: yikes
  1673. [5/15/2014 10:39:31 AM] Koontas: So they're not on Cure or BTC...wasting 5th/s worth of mining power.
  1674. [5/15/2014 10:40:03 AM] Koontas: Only $125/day, no big deal.
  1675. [5/15/2014 10:42:30 AM] Koontas: Sorry for the rant, but this shit needs to get fixed ASAP. We will FAIL if we dont get this resolved.
  1676. [5/15/2014 10:42:40 AM] Pocket: agreed
  1677. [5/15/2014 11:12:46 AM] Logan: Fair enough, we will have to run it by Barwizi tonight and come up with a solution.
  1678. [5/15/2014 11:32:47 AM] Logan: We could split it up into thirds
  1679. [5/15/2014 11:33:26 AM] Logan: That way, individual risk is reduced and we will be prompt with payments.
  1680. [5/15/2014 11:43:00 AM] Koontas: I'm fine with that, it just needs to be spread out.
  1681. [5/15/2014 4:58:11 PM] Koontas: Also, I hate to say it but I don't think we can count on James to be very much help with the wallet in the future...
  1682. [5/15/2014 4:58:28 PM] Pocket: busy man
  1683. [5/15/2014 4:58:42 PM] Koontas: He seems to be going through a Robin Hood phase and doesn't really care even though we'll pay him.
  1684. [5/15/2014 4:59:38 PM] Koontas: So essentially, we have no qt dev resource.
  1685. [5/15/2014 5:19:47 PM] argakiig: I can work on it. I just haven't had a chance either
  1686. [5/15/2014 5:20:14 PM] argakiig: I can look at it tonight and tomorrow.
  1687. [5/15/2014 6:32:49 PM] argakiig: There is still 4 mhs on ebt... wth
  1688. [5/15/2014 8:01:56 PM] argakiig: Wrong room btw
  1689. [5/15/2014 9:49:23 PM] Barwizi: ;(
  1690. [5/15/2014 9:49:37 PM] Barwizi: Koontas makes me look useless
  1691. [5/15/2014 9:49:50 PM] Koontas: No no no
  1692. [5/15/2014 9:49:54 PM] Koontas: That's not what I'm saying!
  1693. [5/15/2014 9:52:16 PM] Barwizi: hehehe, i get moopy when i'm drunk
  1694. [5/15/2014 9:52:24 PM] Barwizi: let me sleep oans
  1695. [5/15/2014 9:52:29 PM] Koontas: haha, no worries, i was crabby earlier
  1696. [5/15/2014 9:52:36 PM] Barwizi: i'll get serious once it's worn off
  1697. [5/15/2014 9:52:46 PM] Koontas: :)
  1698. [5/17/2014 5:44:32 PM] Koontas: FYI - James is not interested in taking on the wallet updates and honestly doesn't sound interested in doing much on NRS going forward.
  1699. [5/17/2014 5:44:54 PM] Koontas: "So I've made a decision about helping. I have invented a bitcion 2.0 concept that I'm going to turn into a coin and I'm going to focus all my attention at that until the IPO. It would be fun to bring the features you describe to NRS, but, in terms of crypto, I'm going to be singular in purpose for a while, so I'll basically be declining any commission work indefinitely."
  1700. [5/17/2014 7:00:45 PM] Logan: That is disappointing
  1701. [5/17/2014 7:01:53 PM] Koontas: Yeah, it is.
  1702. [5/17/2014 7:01:58 PM] Koontas: He's a damn good wallet dev.
  1703. [5/17/2014 7:02:08 PM] Koontas: Arg, we need to search out a new one.
  1704. [5/17/2014 7:09:52 PM] Logan: disappointing that he is off to make just another coin.
  1705. [5/17/2014 7:10:14 PM] Koontas: And work on EBT...
  1706. [5/17/2014 7:10:26 PM] Koontas: But, I like EBT so can't complain about that.
  1707. [5/17/2014 7:10:39 PM] Koontas: Totally sucks though, we'll get on finding someone.
  1708. [5/17/2014 10:43:15 PM] Koontas: How do you guys think we should go about finding people? We need a forum administrator (who has experience) and a qt dev.
  1709. [5/17/2014 10:43:33 PM] Koontas: I'd hate to post on the forum for the qt dev
  1710. [5/17/2014 10:43:37 PM] Koontas: forum admin, sure
  1711. [5/17/2014 10:50:54 PM] Pocket: Can post bounties in bct announce
  1712. [5/17/2014 10:52:55 PM] Koontas: I just feel like posting for a qt dev wouldn't make us look good..
  1713. [5/17/2014 10:53:27 PM] Koontas: We would need to vote on a salary for a forum admin and forum moderator
  1714. [5/17/2014 11:03:15 PM] Logan: No one we would want would respond to a general forum post for a qt dev.
  1715. [5/17/2014 11:03:44 PM] Logan: Maybe we could ask around other dev teams for someone in the qt space that needs a project?
  1716. [5/17/2014 11:04:00 PM] Logan: Maybe coins that are on the verge of dying?
  1717. [5/17/2014 11:04:29 PM] argakiig: a lot of them are on the verge of dying cause of the developers. and we probably wouldnt want those anyways.
  1718. [5/18/2014 11:36:03 AM] Barwizi: the pool has a problem
  1719. [5/18/2014 11:36:39 AM] Barwizi: i have had 1 Th pointed at it for most of the week yet the payout is not makng sense
  1720. [5/18/2014 11:37:21 AM] Barwizi: right now there's been 3 Th pointed for over 1 and half hours, it's not reflecting
  1721. [5/18/2014 11:39:01 AM] argakiig: they changed the ip that the pool was on sometime this week
  1722. [5/18/2014 11:39:18 AM] argakiig: you may need to restart em incase they are looking at the old ip
  1723. [5/18/2014 11:39:59 AM] Barwizi: ok
  1724. [5/18/2014 12:35:17 PM] argakiig: it showing up now?
  1725. [5/18/2014 12:44:27 PM] Koontas: Don't think so.
  1726. [5/18/2014 8:02:40 PM] Koontas: So, 6 hours in, what does the board think?
  1727. [5/18/2014 8:04:11 PM] Logan: Our pool volume needs to triple before we start hitting the 3m break even trag that I calculated.
  1728. [5/18/2014 8:04:18 PM] Logan: This is a great start though
  1729. [5/18/2014 8:04:44 PM] Koontas: Okay, good info.
  1730. [5/18/2014 8:17:18 PM] Logan: sorry, I forgot that we are only getting 75% so we would need a little more than that.
  1731. [5/18/2014 8:20:49 PM] Logan: Right now, based on the amount of NRS being purchased (i.e. Really rough calc), we would be getting around 0.0054 so if we assume the cost was 3 BTC then we will break even if 6 months if we triple the volume.
  1732. [5/18/2014 8:27:20 PM] Pocket: i am being asked about pool fee...do i tell them 3%
  1733. [5/18/2014 8:27:49 PM] Koontas: yes
  1734. [5/18/2014 8:27:52 PM] Koontas: can't lie...
  1735. [5/18/2014 8:28:07 PM] Pocket: yeah, just trying to think of a better way to say 3% lol
  1736. [5/18/2014 8:28:16 PM] Koontas: all good
  1737. [5/18/2014 8:28:34 PM] Koontas: he's trying to figure out what we're doing for their pool
  1738. [5/18/2014 8:28:44 PM] Pocket: like...1.5/50 or something
  1739. [5/18/2014 8:28:50 PM] Pocket: whose pool
  1740. [5/18/2014 8:28:57 PM] Koontas: lemon coin, i think that's him
  1741. [5/18/2014 8:29:08 PM] Pocket: lemon coin? lol gonan be confusing with limecoin
  1742. [5/18/2014 8:29:25 PM] Logan: Didn't you hear about my sideproject? Lemon and Lime coin
  1743. [5/18/2014 8:29:31 PM] Koontas: lol
  1744. [5/18/2014 8:29:33 PM] Pocket: called spritecoin
  1745. [5/18/2014 8:29:35 PM] Koontas: sprite coin?
  1746. [5/18/2014 8:29:37 PM] Koontas: hahaha
  1747. [5/18/2014 8:29:37 PM] Pocket: with their powers combined
  1748. [5/18/2014 8:29:52 PM] Pocket: need 1 lemon and 1 lime coin each to get a sprite coin
  1749. [5/18/2014 8:30:03 PM] Logan: Powers combined? Captain Planet coin?
  1750. [5/18/2014 8:30:08 PM] Pocket: need 1 of each color of the rainbow to get a skittles token
  1751. [5/18/2014 9:49:06 PM] Barwizi: a single chain with 6 difficulties and 6 different rewards for each difficulty with 6 different block types. 666coin
  1752. [5/18/2014 9:49:20 PM] Barwizi: coming soon
  1753. [5/18/2014 9:50:00 PM] Koontas: alrighty
  1754. [5/18/2014 10:32:07 PM] Logan: godzirra just gobbled up another share. We need to add him to the thinktank
  1755. [5/18/2014 10:32:18 PM] Koontas: have him pm me
  1756. [5/18/2014 10:32:24 PM] Pocket: his skype is godzirra8
  1757. [5/18/2014 10:32:30 PM] Pocket: holy shit did he pay 4btc again?!
  1758. [5/18/2014 10:45:19 PM] Logan: I would guess so
  1759. [5/18/2014 10:45:27 PM] Pocket: jebus lol
  1760. [5/18/2014 10:45:59 PM] Koontas: yea we'll get him in, sent him a request
  1761. [5/18/2014 10:46:52 PM] Logan: With the increased pool volume, we are on track to be clearing .01 BTC per day in pool revenue. That puts our breakeven point at 300 days (10 months).
  1762. [5/18/2014 10:46:54 PM] Pocket: busoni saying in trollbox NRS wallet is unstable, but not the reason for withdrawal issues
  1763. [5/18/2014 10:47:15 PM] Pocket: busoni@poloniex: yvg1900, well, at least it WAS unstable. It hasn't given us trouble recently.
  1764. [5/18/2014 10:47:35 PM] Logan: what a dick, that issue lasted a weekend.
  1765. [5/18/2014 10:47:59 PM] Logan: how much money has he made off our coin? Such little respect.
  1766. [5/18/2014 10:48:03 PM] Koontas: On to Cryptsy soon enough...
  1767. [5/18/2014 10:48:07 PM] Koontas: No respect.
  1768. [5/18/2014 10:48:09 PM] Pocket: busoni@poloniex: yvg1900, the withdrawal issue was just too many tiny inputs, I needed to collect them. Could happen to any wallet.
  1769. [5/18/2014 11:41:06 PM] Koontas: Should start thinking about distribution for this:
[5/18/14, 9:49:26 PM] Barwizi: a single chain with 6 difficulties and 6 different rewards for each difficulty with 6 different block types. 666coin
  1770. [5/18/14, 9:49:39 PM] Barwizi: coming soon
  1771. [5/19/2014 5:41:25 AM] cass: [19.05.14 14:41:01] cass: http://www.noirpool.com/minerinfo
  1772. [19.05.14 14:41:07] cass: pool doesn't' work
  1773. [19.05.14 14:41:14] cass: network timeout
  1774. [5/19/2014 9:18:57 AM] Barwizi: So the Noir Group had their first board meeting, afterwards they took a picture
  1775. [5/19/2014 9:19:02 AM] Barwizi: here is a copy
  1776. [5/19/2014 9:19:12 AM] *** Barwizi sent anonymous_masks.jpg ***
  1777. [5/19/2014 10:38:34 AM] Pocket: i got banned from hard ocp forum
  1778. [5/19/2014 10:38:38 AM] Pocket: for 1 post about noirpool
  1779. [5/19/2014 10:44:23 AM] Barwizi: wow
  1780. [5/19/2014 10:44:37 AM] Barwizi: so....
  1781. [5/19/2014 10:45:01 AM] Barwizi: i just got a quote for 10 Th sha256 @ 13000
  1782. [5/19/2014 11:01:06 AM] Logan: Speaking of expanding the mining operation, now that we have got the pool running smoothly. Pocket, do you want to go over the proposal we put together?
  1783. [5/19/2014 11:02:03 AM] Pocket: is it time
  1784. [5/19/2014 11:02:39 AM] Pocket: i guess we should start talking about it
  1785. [5/19/2014 11:02:42 AM] Koontas: Put it up on tricider whenever you're ready...assume we want to vote here then on to the GF if it passes the board?
  1786. [5/19/2014 11:03:05 AM] Pocket: yeah good plan, here's the proposal, read it and then we'll do a board vote
  1787. [5/19/2014 11:03:39 AM] Logan: board vote on Tricider (for clarity)
  1788. [5/19/2014 11:04:09 AM] Pocket: everyone, the proposal behind this link is for how the General Fund could potentially handle the mining, please read this and then look for a tricider vote incoming regarding this proposal
  1789.  
  1790. https://docs.google.com/document/d/17plp6_to0xEJpPq8U1NXnGLULJ9Z13oqy1AI8DefcLk/edit?usp=sharing
  1791. [5/19/2014 11:05:11 AM] Koontas: This doesn't make sense "The Noir Group General Fund members will receive a substantial chunk of BTC/NRS from the sale of shares "
  1792. [5/19/2014 11:05:41 AM] Koontas: Aren't the shares covering the equipment?
  1793. [5/19/2014 11:05:51 AM] Pocket: noir mining co opens as a new venture fund with shares for sale
  1794. [5/19/2014 11:06:19 AM] Pocket: incoming investment may be larger than cost of machine purchase
  1795. [5/19/2014 11:06:55 AM] Pocket: tricider link http://tricider.com/brainstorming/1aXbj
  1796. [5/19/2014 11:07:10 AM] Koontas: Unless there is a 100% guarantee all hardware will be hosted in a data center I will not be voting in favor.
  1797. [5/19/2014 11:07:32 AM] Pocket: yeah that's a good point
  1798. [5/19/2014 11:09:32 AM] Barwizi: actually , not one data center but maybe three or four
  1799. [5/19/2014 11:09:47 AM] Barwizi: to keep with the decentralized theme
  1800. [5/19/2014 11:10:20 AM] Barwizi: i would say not only different centers , but if possible in different countries altogether
  1801. [5/19/2014 11:11:42 AM] Koontas: I'm going to vote No for now...I just don't see the benefit at this point.
  1802. [5/19/2014 11:13:57 AM] Barwizi: 2.5 months isnt bad
  1803. [5/19/2014 11:14:02 AM] Barwizi: but i'll tentatively say maybe
  1804. [5/19/2014 11:14:34 AM] Barwizi: if Logan can work it out including hosting fees, then yes
  1805. [5/19/2014 11:29:56 AM] Pocket: btc-mike is still asking about the pre-mine, he is trying to add NRS to his website cpucoinlist.com
  1806. [5/19/2014 11:30:14 AM] Pocket: i told him one pre-mine block at #10
  1807. [5/19/2014 11:30:25 AM] Koontas: lol that's very deceptive
  1808. [5/19/2014 11:30:31 AM] Pocket: it's what iw as told
  1809. [5/19/2014 11:33:52 AM] Koontas: yea, but not giving them the amount is kinda shitty...
  1810. [5/19/2014 11:34:15 AM] Pocket: what's the amount?
  1811. [5/19/2014 11:34:57 AM] argakiig: Check the explorer. Not near a computer atm
  1812. [5/19/2014 11:35:43 AM] argakiig: 250000
  1813. [5/19/2014 11:36:09 AM] Pocket: says block size 200
  1814. [5/19/2014 11:36:54 AM] Pocket: is that 16000 NRS?
  1815. [5/19/2014 11:43:56 AM] argakiig: It was 250000 nrs. Goto The Transaction And Look At The Output
  1816. [5/19/2014 11:45:00 AM] Pocket: ohh i see it
  1817. [5/19/2014 11:45:00 AM] Pocket: ok
  1818. [5/19/2014 11:45:16 AM] Pocket: how do i explain it? dev salaries marketing and such?
  1819. [5/19/2014 11:45:22 AM] Koontas: That's an insane amount of NRS...we could be posting insane bounties even using just a tiny bit of it.
  1820. [5/19/2014 11:47:30 AM] Koontas: Also, we're to the point where we need to find an hour per week all of us can get on here and chat.
  1821. [5/19/2014 11:47:43 AM] Koontas: We're all on here at different times and I feel like we're not moving anything along...
  1822. [5/19/2014 11:47:51 AM] Pocket: i am gonna say it's for bouties, dev salaries, marketing, etc
  1823. [5/19/2014 11:48:10 AM] Koontas: yeah that's fine, just make sure you clarify salaries were voted on by GF
  1824. [5/19/2014 11:51:46 AM] Koontas: alright, now that pocket responded, let's bury that post lol
  1825. [5/19/2014 11:51:50 AM] Pocket: lmao
  1826. [5/19/2014 12:18:12 PM] Pocket: at least one post
  1827. [5/19/2014 12:18:16 PM] Pocket: to bury
  1828. [5/19/2014 1:00:20 PM] Pocket: pinwc4: I have been mining at Noirpool for a bit over half a day and thought I would give some feedback. While the idea of mining there and getting NRS back is great right now it is very ineffective. I have about 1.2 TH/s pointed at it (SHA256 pool) and with the amount of NRS I am getting from Noirpool it is about 1/5th the amount than if I were to just mine BTC directly and buy NRS with that BTC.
  1829.  
  1830. While I know that this is just the beginning it is surprising to see it be that much less. I can not speak for scrypt mining as I do not do that but at least for SHA256 multipool it needs more coins and better calculations for what to mine and exchange.
  1831. [5/19/2014 1:43:10 PM] Koontas: Barwizi, can you tell us how much NRS NG has in our account?
  1832. [5/19/2014 1:47:16 PM] Koontas: I would like to set a deadline of 5/23 to get all of our finances in order. To me, that means we are in a place where Logan can send weekly financial status updates that include our BTC and NRS balances as well as the amount of NRS stake earned over a given period.
  1833. [5/19/2014 1:47:59 PM] Pocket: important
  1834. [5/19/2014 1:49:25 PM] Koontas: With such a large premine and all of the money raised with the share sales we MUST ensure we're accounting for those coins and documenting where they are going. People are asking, and we need to have something we can point them add to aleviate their concerns.
  1835. [5/19/2014 2:26:05 PM] Logan: I think this is both important for credibility plus price support. Asiacoin had a premine that people didn't find out about until later and it dropped like a stone and got delisted everywhere. Now obviously their premine was extreme but the point remains.
  1836. [5/19/2014 2:44:14 PM] argakiig: linux .pro inbound
  1837. [5/19/2014 2:44:26 PM] argakiig: just making sure it works
  1838. [5/19/2014 2:55:35 PM] argakiig: we're looking at needing 10+ths to find a block in a reasonable time AFAIK
  1839. [5/19/2014 2:56:33 PM] argakiig: the more viable option would be to figure out how to proxy through NOMP
  1840. [5/19/2014 3:09:52 PM] Koontas: I need input ASAP.
  1841. [5/19/2014 3:10:33 PM] Koontas: There's an idea to use another pool to mine BTC for our pool... Essentially point to noirpool SHA, that poitns to another pool, pays out, buy NRS with our pool, pay out NRS.
  1842. [5/19/2014 3:11:00 PM] Koontas: We have 2 options. Pay to have bitcrypt build this and we own it, or split it with them somehow.
  1843. [5/19/2014 3:11:04 PM] Koontas: I need to know what you guys think.
  1844. [5/19/2014 3:12:01 PM] Koontas: We would be the only pool that does this as far as I know.
  1845. [5/19/2014 3:15:27 PM] argakiig: There was another one that has implemented this. I forget who.
  1846. [5/19/2014 3:15:35 PM] argakiig: But if they can do it sure.
  1847. [5/19/2014 3:18:33 PM] Koontas: Do we want to pay them outright and own it or work something else out?
  1848. [5/19/2014 4:14:12 PM] Koontas: USE THIS DOCUMENT TO TRACK ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING GOING FORWARD. IF IT GETS DISCUSSED, ADD IT, IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA, ADD IT, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, ADD IT. EVERYTHING GOES HERE: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hsYMu6GkW5Y-MJ1RMCsPVH1tj5EVnVaO5MsO84fZv3Q/edit#gid=0
  1849. [5/19/2014 4:14:21 PM] Koontas: BOOKMARK IT NOW, CHECK IT REGULARLY.
  1850. [5/19/2014 4:14:28 PM] Koontas: You guys like caps?
  1851. [5/19/2014 4:14:36 PM] Pocket: hurts
  1852. [5/19/2014 4:14:38 PM] Pocket: slightly
  1853. [5/19/2014 4:14:43 PM] Koontas: did you read it though?
  1854. [5/19/2014 4:15:01 PM] Koontas: you'll even get the privilege of knowing my real name...
  1855. [5/19/2014 4:15:05 PM] Koontas: just use the doc. everyone.
  1856. [5/19/2014 4:15:27 PM] Pocket: we all know your real name, eric cartman
  1857. [5/19/2014 4:15:39 PM] Koontas: :P
  1858. [5/19/2014 4:16:15 PM] Koontas: all you guys have to do is add whatever, i will keep the doc clean and prioritized
  1859. [5/19/2014 4:16:40 PM] Pocket: i like this better than trello, sadly
  1860. [5/19/2014 4:17:12 PM] Koontas: yes, understood
  1861. [5/19/2014 4:17:15 PM] Koontas: it's easier
  1862. [5/19/2014 4:22:16 PM] Logan: We should just take our miners off it. No one else is using SHA
  1863. [5/19/2014 4:22:58 PM] Koontas: ill add it to the list
  1864. [5/19/2014 4:25:07 PM] Koontas: see line 2
  1865. [5/19/2014 10:03:23 PM] Koontas: Barwizi??
  1866. [5/19/2014 10:10:34 PM] Koontas: Tell us about your plans for the next 2 weeks.
  1867. [5/19/2014 10:35:48 PM] Logan: I feel that we need to fast track the resurrection of NRB since we have already announced it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=364180.100
  1868. [5/19/2014 10:40:35 PM] Pocket: what can we use NRB for
  1869. [5/19/2014 10:41:26 PM] Pocket: dimes to NRS's dollars?
  1870. [5/19/2014 10:41:49 PM] Pocket: lower tx fees, faster tx times, low stake reward, etc?
  1871. [5/19/2014 10:42:45 PM] Pocket: tipping
  1872. [5/19/2014 10:42:51 PM] Logan: Honestly? I think we will have to figure that out later.
  1873. [5/19/2014 10:43:18 PM] Logan: Now that we have said we are doing this, we have to stick by it otherwise we will constantly have people refer to this post and say 'this is what you said'
  1874. [5/19/2014 10:43:51 PM] Pocket: i know bar was interested, i'm sure he has an idea of what he wants to do with it
  1875. [5/19/2014 10:44:48 PM] Logan: I want to get it updated, merged mined asap so we can focus on more important things
  1876. [5/19/2014 10:44:55 PM] Pocket: that's for sure
  1877. [5/19/2014 10:45:07 PM] Koontas: amen.
  1878. [5/19/2014 10:45:34 PM] Koontas: maybe yvg can do that on his own without bar?
  1879. [5/19/2014 10:46:05 PM] Logan: yvg is looking into the merge mining
  1880. [5/19/2014 10:46:58 PM] Logan: Also please don't mention that we are even considering updating anything in general chat until we make a public annoucement. The NRB market is really thin if I recall, 1 BTC would send it up 10x.
  1881. [5/19/2014 10:47:06 PM] Pocket: yea
  1882. [5/19/2014 11:09:17 PM] argakiig: well gnite
  1883. [5/19/2014 11:09:19 PM] argakiig: im off
  1884. [5/20/2014 8:40:47 AM] Logan: Multi pool hash has dropped off significantly. Be that as it were, we can't really spin-off the mining as it could be seen as trying to offload a failure.
  1885. [5/20/2014 9:34:54 AM] argakiig: What do you mean?
  1886. [5/20/2014 9:44:19 AM] Pocket: x11 should bump pool popularity
  1887. [5/20/2014 10:41:11 AM] Logan: The spin-off proposal is a no go until we have a stable and profitable multi pool.
  1888. [5/20/2014 10:41:28 AM] Pocket: yea
  1889. [5/20/2014 10:43:37 AM] Barwizi: Logan and Koontas take point
  1890. [5/20/2014 10:43:49 AM] Barwizi: I'll be busy with Arg and yvg for a while
  1891. [5/20/2014 10:44:03 AM] Koontas: Yea, we're on it.
  1892. [5/20/2014 10:44:19 AM] Koontas: I do need Arg to finish the payment app before you steal him though.
  1893. [5/20/2014 10:44:43 AM] Barwizi: we'll keep you updated, since we have a DAS, i am pushing a DAC out hopefully in the next 7 days
  1894. [5/20/2014 10:44:50 AM] Barwizi: ok, i can start without him
  1895. [5/20/2014 10:45:12 AM] Barwizi: i'll need him for some QT and something special
  1896. [5/20/2014 10:46:33 AM] Koontas: Okay, I need you to take the miners current pointed at the pool and point them at eligius with this payout address: 1C8zwNYAuXTmtRAUG9EzVQYjivDsysjBeh
  1897. [5/20/2014 10:47:41 AM] Pocket: bar can you PM me with the details of this next DAC so I can get started on some graphics and press release
  1898. [5/20/2014 10:51:28 AM] Barwizi: Pocket, be honest, you want an ear in the nerd factory
  1899. [5/20/2014 10:51:35 AM] Koontas: hahaha
  1900. [5/20/2014 10:51:41 AM] Barwizi: (cool)
  1901. [5/20/2014 10:52:03 AM] Pocket: i will hear at some point :P
  1902. [5/20/2014 10:52:34 AM] Pocket: better sooner than later, time is important here while we have nice attention from the community
  1903. [5/20/2014 11:12:04 AM] Barwizi: quick spoiler, while everyone is still working on Bitcoin 2.0 and 2.2 , we have begun the first tentative steps towads a 3.0 implementation
  1904. [5/20/2014 11:13:25 AM] Koontas: :O
  1905. [5/20/2014 11:13:40 AM] Pocket: that's barely a tickling of the nutsack
  1906. [5/20/2014 11:14:55 AM] Pocket: BUT....it's nice to be able to claim forefront tech, 3.0
  1907. [5/20/2014 11:16:13 AM] Barwizi: using every angle we have we must push this out befor the next Bitcoin 2.0 conference.... i'm sure some teams will feel very inadaquate
  1908. [5/20/2014 11:16:32 AM] Pocket: LOL
  1909. [5/20/2014 11:16:40 AM] Pocket: awesome
  1910. [5/20/2014 11:17:24 AM] Pocket: it's like showing up to the car show with a modded Honda and putting it next to a TESLA
  1911. [5/20/2014 11:18:39 AM] Pocket: and bitcoin is a Ford Model T
  1912. [5/20/2014 11:54:54 AM] Koontas: How can we move forward on this task?
  1913. "Provide a weekly financial status update to the board that includes at least the following: NG BTC balance, NG NRS balance, BTC income by source for last week and overall, NRS income by source for last week and overall, all expenditures, NRS stake earned for last week and overall."
  1914. [5/20/2014 1:04:12 PM] Pocket: what do you guys think of this idea: Brand new coin, download the wallet and install, and it generates free coin everyday just for keeping the wallet open. meanwhile in the background we are using the wallet to mine other coins or do calculations for us. the free coins for the users can actually be redeemed or traded on the exchanges, basically let us install this app on your computer and you get free money
  1915. [5/20/2014 1:04:33 PM] Pocket: automatically mining at noirpool.com or something
  1916. [5/20/2014 1:04:49 PM] Pocket: it will be picked up by the hordes of "free" chasers
  1917. [5/20/2014 1:22:28 PM] Logan: Bots ho
  1918. [5/20/2014 1:22:49 PM] Pocket: ourbots
  1919. [5/20/2014 1:23:20 PM] Pocket: but thinking about this next to bar talking about 3.0 stuff, the 3.0 stuff is more important haha
  1920. [5/20/2014 1:26:27 PM] Barwizi: current obssesion by these so called "thinkers" is to make so many random apps without actually exploring the gift of the blockchain
  1921. [5/20/2014 1:26:48 PM] Barwizi: a truly secure irreversible blockchain has so many applications
  1922. [5/20/2014 1:27:09 PM] Barwizi: not DNS, not music , not Medical stuff
  1923. [5/20/2014 1:27:33 PM] Barwizi: think about it, a pure accounting system , completely incorruptible
  1924. [5/20/2014 1:27:55 PM] Barwizi: an analysis engine whose raw data is the experience of years
  1925. [5/20/2014 1:28:08 PM] Pocket: trying to build a system to sell to a government?
  1926. [5/20/2014 1:28:25 PM] Barwizi: a voting system that cannot have 106% votes
  1927. [5/20/2014 1:28:35 PM] Barwizi: a payroll with no ghost workers
  1928. [5/20/2014 1:29:27 PM] Barwizi: Not governments, but using these combined systems we can build the OS you speak of so much
  1929. [5/20/2014 1:29:35 PM] Barwizi: a "tools" OS
  1930. [5/20/2014 1:30:51 PM] Barwizi: that has "transaction processing" through coins, consensus evaluation through distributed voting system, internal accounting systems through blockchains
  1931. [5/20/2014 1:31:11 PM] Barwizi: and even private messaging through push chains
  1932. [5/20/2014 1:31:46 PM] Pocket: i still can't think of what to name this beast
  1933. [5/20/2014 1:31:49 PM] Barwizi: even higher functions like torrenting through DHT via truncated hashes
  1934. [5/20/2014 1:32:12 PM] Pocket: barwizi, so that sounds like multi-chains, or yvgs blockrope or whatever
  1935. [5/20/2014 1:32:23 PM] Barwizi: if they though BTC was hard to track, imagine when the tech is used for toreents
  1936. [5/20/2014 1:33:02 PM] Barwizi: it's a single chain , multi-thread system that you could possibly subscribe and unsubscribe on a per thread basis, dependent on your needs
  1937. [5/20/2014 1:44:24 PM] Pocket: NEM has a pretty crazy new wallet... but i think it will be web based.. https://googledrive.com/host/0Bwfe5MzvbH9wc1ZkSGFUYjN6QnM/dashboard.html
  1938. [5/20/2014 1:45:28 PM] Pocket: it's like..facebook meets crypto and blocktech
  1939. [5/20/2014 1:45:30 PM] Barwizi: Basically, Pocket, mining is about luck...so why not really emphasize that without stepping on any toes
  1940. [5/20/2014 1:45:32 PM] Barwizi: ?
  1941. [5/20/2014 1:45:49 PM] Pocket: you're a smart man bar-wise-ey
  1942. [5/20/2014 1:45:51 PM] Barwizi: trust me, my idea is well worth it if we can prove the concept
  1943. [5/20/2014 1:47:19 PM] Logan: I was thinking of a private paste bin on chain.
  1944. [5/20/2014 1:48:20 PM] Koontas: Bar, check on the miners por favor.
  1945. [5/20/2014 1:48:32 PM] Koontas: connected but slow
  1946. [5/20/2014 1:49:19 PM] Barwizi: hmm,
  1947. [5/20/2014 1:49:30 PM] Barwizi: (5s):970.6G (avg):830.0Gh/s | A:37823 R:7232 HW:22 WU:17.2/m
  1948. [5/20/2014 1:49:51 PM] Koontas: so strange, the pool is reporting 103gh/s
  1949. [5/20/2014 1:50:40 PM] Barwizi: (5s):990.6G (avg):360.0Gh/s | A:485623 R:34425 HW:2 WU:57.9/m
  1950. [5/20/2014 1:51:33 PM] Barwizi: (5s):770.6G (avg):750.0Gh/s | A:55823 R:8532 HW:108 WU:27.4/m
  1951. [5/20/2014 1:51:40 PM] Koontas: shit ton of rejects, that's why
  1952. [5/20/2014 1:51:44 PM] Barwizi: that the three pointed
  1953. [5/20/2014 1:52:28 PM] Barwizi: my net is uplink 256kbps and down 1mbps
  1954. [5/20/2014 1:52:46 PM] Barwizi: i can try rebooting
  1955. [5/20/2014 1:52:57 PM] Barwizi: or change the share difficulty
  1956. [5/20/2014 1:53:26 PM] Koontas: for the hell of it try connecting to uk1.ghash.io:3333 / Koontas.worker1 / 12345
  1957. [5/20/2014 1:53:55 PM] Koontas: we'll see if we get a better connection and they have 0 fees
  1958. [5/20/2014 1:54:16 PM] Koontas: you can use Koontas.worker1, Koontas.worker2, Koontas.worker3
  1959. [5/20/2014 1:54:27 PM] Barwizi: (5s):1.014T (avg):1.017Th/s | A:13984 R:0 HW:2 WU:60.8/m
  1960. [5/20/2014 1:54:31 PM] Barwizi: one is up
  1961. [5/20/2014 1:54:39 PM] Barwizi: give me the link again
  1962. [5/20/2014 1:55:01 PM] Koontas: eligius is here: http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1C8zwNYAuXTmtRAUG9EzVQYjivDsysjBeh
  1963. [5/20/2014 1:55:51 PM] Koontas: we should try some on ghash though to see if we have less issues
  1964. [5/20/2014 2:02:13 PM] Barwizi: (5s):36.57M (avg):579.9Gh/s | A:32831 R:256 HW(cat) WU:32.4/m
  1965. [5/20/2014 2:02:31 PM] Barwizi: (5s):4.653G (avg):367.1Gh/s | A:62399 R:7232 HW:38 WU:19.7/m
  1966. [5/20/2014 2:12:38 PM] Koontas: So, I don't generally get much feedback on how you guys think things are going... If you have any feedback on the operations, how I'm doing, what you want me to do more or less of, etc, please feel free to let me know. You can post it in here or PM me...all about being open and transparent.
  1967. [5/20/2014 2:15:07 PM] Pocket: you're a fat asshole eric cartman
  1968. [5/20/2014 2:15:32 PM] Pocket: sorry if you're fat IRL
  1969. [5/20/2014 2:15:39 PM] Pocket: go to the gym
  1970. [5/20/2014 2:15:43 PM] Koontas: haha, i'm not fat IRL
  1971. [5/20/2014 2:15:51 PM] Koontas: lol I ride 100+ miles / week...
  1972. [5/20/2014 2:16:23 PM] Pocket: nice, i got a madone 5.9, classic
  1973. [5/20/2014 2:16:46 PM] Koontas: :P
  1974. [5/20/2014 2:16:50 PM] Koontas: domane 4.5
  1975. [5/20/2014 2:17:04 PM] Koontas: just put some new mavic's on it
  1976. [5/20/2014 2:17:07 PM] Pocket: noice
  1977. [5/20/2014 2:51:32 PM] Logan: I need more clarity on financial information and control.
  1978. [5/20/2014 2:58:26 PM] cass: Am 20.05.14, um 22:44 hat Pocket geschrieben:
  1979. > NEM has a pretty crazy new wallet... but i think it will be web based.. https://googledrive.com/host/0Bwfe5MzvbH9wc1ZkSGFUYjN6QnM/dashboard.html
  1980.  
  1981. if you provide me backend technique i could make such an awesome design for your wallet also np :)
  1982. [5/20/2014 3:16:03 PM] Logan: NEM is Web based wallet
  1983. [5/20/2014 3:19:20 PM] cass: yes on a web based wallet we're able to awesome design
  1984. [5/20/2014 3:19:33 PM] cass: my knowledge with qt creator lacks
  1985. [5/20/2014 3:19:57 PM] cass: i tried it but i'll need more free time to dive more into
  1986. [5/20/2014 5:47:35 PM] Koontas: NoirSplit - Automating Your Group Coin Distribution
  1987. [5/20/2014 5:47:50 PM] Koontas: (if anyone mentions this outside of this chat I will slaughter you)
  1988. [5/20/2014 5:57:52 PM] Pocket: For fees? Profit?!
  1989. [5/20/2014 6:04:47 PM] Pocket: Can we sell it?
  1990. [5/20/2014 6:05:40 PM] Koontas: The thought is that we would take a % fee of each transaction based on amount being distributed amongst payees. We would also charge a small fee for new coins that want to be added to the site.
  1991. [5/20/2014 6:06:24 PM] Koontas: The problem now is determining how this can be a 100% automated DAC since we will be taking fees in the coin being distributed (which may not always be on an exchange).
  1992. [5/20/2014 6:31:11 PM] Koontas: very rough mocks here: https://noirinvestmentgroup.mybalsamiq.com/projects/payshare/grid
  1993. [5/20/2014 6:53:30 PM] Logan: Basically we would have a sliding scale depending on the amount distributed. 2% for small amounts .05% for large amounts. This would not only provide value to our shareholders but it would gather a mailing list of people who we could sell further services to.
  1994. [5/20/2014 6:56:22 PM] Koontas: (y) Need to have some discussions with Arg about what can/cannot be done.
  1995. [5/20/2014 6:57:09 PM] Pocket: Bitsplitter
  1996. [5/20/2014 6:57:15 PM] Pocket: (y)
  1997. [5/20/2014 6:57:34 PM] Logan: I think that this could be an easy service to provide and an easy website to make look sexy. I don't think that it will generate a lot of income but I think it will help establish a lot of credibilty
  1998. [5/20/2014 6:57:49 PM] Koontas: not available pocket
  1999. [5/20/2014 6:58:17 PM] Koontas: I think if we can market this to mining group buys and the like we'll be golden.
  2000. [5/20/2014 6:58:52 PM] Logan: Another idea that I was kicking around was including 50% for NRS holders. Just doing a snapshot for everyone holding over 1,000 NRS and include them in the distribution.
  2001. [5/20/2014 6:58:58 PM] Koontas: There are plenty of cases where people need to split up coins by % or share qty.
  2002. [5/20/2014 6:58:59 PM] Logan: SplitBits?
  2003. [5/20/2014 6:59:58 PM] Koontas: nope
  2004. [5/20/2014 7:00:04 PM] Pocket: I actually think this would be a well used service, auto payment options are slim
  2005. [5/20/2014 7:01:59 PM] Koontas: pocket, can you gather some examples of sites with a style you think would be appropriate?
  2006. [5/20/2014 7:08:12 PM] Pocket: ya sure
  2007. [5/20/2014 7:12:13 PM] Pocket: http://www.workday.com/applications/human_capital_management/payroll_solutions.php
  2008.  
  2009. http://www.adp.com/solutions/services/payroll-services.aspx
  2010. [5/20/2014 7:13:11 PM] Koontas: http://www.paysha.com/
  2011. [5/20/2014 7:14:38 PM] Logan: I was thinking more like this: https://www.bitrated.com/
  2012. [5/20/2014 7:15:02 PM] Pocket: that's better
  2013. [5/20/2014 7:15:06 PM] Koontas: (y) very basic
  2014. [5/20/2014 7:15:16 PM] Logan: clean
  2015. [5/20/2014 7:15:22 PM] Pocket: more tool, less stuff
  2016. [5/20/2014 7:15:22 PM] Koontas: indeed
  2017. [5/20/2014 7:16:23 PM] Logan: Pocket - Can you start contacting individuals who are missing addresses directly? This is taking too long to get some simple addresses.
  2018. [5/20/2014 7:17:13 PM] Pocket: I did earlier today
  2019. [5/20/2014 7:17:16 PM] Pocket: PMd everyone on the forum
  2020. [5/20/2014 7:18:00 PM] Logan: I mean direct email to those individuals, they are probably not checking the forum
  2021. [5/20/2014 7:18:21 PM] Pocket: I did that today too
  2022. [5/20/2014 7:18:28 PM] Logan: Okay
  2023. [5/20/2014 7:18:38 PM] Pocket: i contacted them with everything i got, and also searched alternate methods of contacting them based on their user profiles
  2024. [5/20/2014 7:18:47 PM] Koontas: ie. stalking
  2025. [5/20/2014 7:18:50 PM] Logan: haha
  2026. [5/20/2014 7:18:58 PM] Koontas: ;)
  2027. [5/20/2014 7:19:01 PM] Pocket: i have more names and addresses than expected
  2028. [5/20/2014 7:19:07 PM] Pocket: less btc/nrs addresses than needed
  2029. [5/20/2014 7:36:36 PM] Logan: SplitBTC are bitriven (my favorite) are available
  2030. [5/20/2014 7:36:40 PM] Logan: and not
  2031. [5/20/2014 7:36:43 PM] Logan: are
  2032. [5/20/2014 7:36:49 PM] Logan: Bitriven.com
  2033. [5/20/2014 7:36:51 PM] Logan: that is good
  2034. [5/20/2014 7:38:32 PM] Logan: payrive?
  2035. [5/20/2014 7:38:36 PM] Logan: payrive.com
  2036. [5/20/2014 7:40:04 PM] Logan: coinrive
  2037. [5/20/2014 7:40:33 PM] Logan: This is also fun: Liverive.com
  2038. [5/21/2014 9:20:39 AM] Koontas: We need to get more BTC in our Poloniex account ASAP for the pool.
  2039. [5/21/2014 10:06:09 AM] Pocket: is the pool spending more than it's earning?
  2040. [5/21/2014 10:07:23 AM] Koontas: No, but BTC transfers from Cryptsy to Polo only occur weekly.
  2041. [5/21/2014 10:08:35 AM] Pocket: ah
  2042. [5/21/2014 10:14:46 AM] Pocket: can we get like 5-10 NRS for 9WNaWbwAdfq5EYvXNtSVWgQJUtCxXqDCFX
  2043. she wrote http://bitcoinmafia.com/bittys-blog/review-noirshares-multipool-noirpool/
  2044. [5/21/2014 10:37:33 AM] Koontas: I am going to suggest we halt all development excluding our payout system until we get our house in order.
  2045. [5/21/2014 10:39:08 AM] Koontas: I have a lot of concerns right now and they are not being addressed quick enough.
  2046. [5/21/2014 10:39:20 AM] Koontas: I am very, very frustrated with the way things are going right now.
  2047. [5/21/2014 11:28:42 AM] Logan: Well with the pool, we had complains about profitability and payout timing. Once we get more coins that are more profitable, I think that should turn around.
  2048. [5/21/2014 11:28:51 AM] Logan: X11 for example.
  2049. [5/21/2014 11:49:08 AM] Koontas: I disagree. Profitability may be an issue with SHA but there are shit tons of scrypt miners out there...
  2050. [5/21/2014 11:49:27 AM] Koontas: 2 posts and a few tweets are not going to get people on the site, plain and simple.
  2051. [5/21/2014 12:05:50 PM] Logan: True. So you are feeling we dropped the ball on the promo side, I agree but the technical issues at launch didn't help.
  2052. [5/21/2014 12:06:16 PM] Koontas: Yep.
  2053. [5/21/2014 12:07:12 PM] Logan: Andrew is freaking out a bit. Can I tell him about the payout product?
  2054. [5/21/2014 12:08:04 PM] Koontas: Sure, I dont care...
  2055. [5/21/2014 12:09:14 PM] Logan: Okay, he just wants to feel that things are moving along. 50 BTC bag, we don't want him to be nervous.
  2056. [5/21/2014 12:09:42 PM] Koontas: Well, they aren't. So I get it.
  2057. [5/21/2014 12:12:19 PM] Pocket: LGD is looking for a sha multipool
  2058. [5/21/2014 12:12:24 PM] Pocket: can we build for them
  2059. [5/21/2014 12:16:11 PM] Koontas: We can do whatever they want if they pay for it.
  2060. [5/21/2014 12:16:41 PM] Pocket: cost?
  2061. [5/21/2014 12:17:57 PM] Pocket: nvm found it
  2062. [5/21/2014 12:21:55 PM] Pocket: hey, it's not just 2 posts and a few tweets..a bit unfair to say that
  2063. [5/21/2014 12:22:22 PM] Pocket: i contacted several different mining related blogs, and also got banned from a few mining forums
  2064. [5/21/2014 12:24:54 PM] Logan: Direct them to our pool contractor
  2065. [5/21/2014 12:37:44 PM] Koontas: Well, if we don't see links, we don't know what's being done Pocket.
  2066. [5/21/2014 12:37:54 PM] Koontas: Maybe I missed them?
  2067. [5/21/2014 12:38:01 PM] Koontas: I saw a blog....
  2068. [5/21/2014 12:38:58 PM] Pocket: i was putting them all in trello until we stopped using that
  2069. [5/21/2014 12:39:07 PM] Pocket: now i just been guerilla-ing it
  2070. [5/21/2014 12:39:50 PM] Pocket: i'm just gonna compile my own reports
  2071. [5/21/2014 12:41:01 PM] Koontas: Please do! Are you waiting for someone to tell you to do it?
  2072. [5/21/2014 12:41:14 PM] Koontas: I give all of you permission to take some initiative.
  2073. [5/21/2014 12:41:26 PM] Pocket: well like i said i was using trello
  2074. [5/21/2014 12:41:28 PM] Pocket: lol
  2075. [5/21/2014 12:41:51 PM] Pocket: but i feel like it's more effective for me to keep track in a google doc
  2076. [5/21/2014 12:41:58 PM] Pocket: which is what i'm gonna do
  2077. [5/21/2014 12:42:17 PM] Koontas: Beautiful. Thats fine.
  2078. [5/21/2014 1:00:58 PM] Koontas: I know you're all likely thinking "what an asshole..." but I don't know how else to express my concern about our lack of organization.
  2079. [5/21/2014 1:01:53 PM] Pocket: we are in turbulent crypto waters, it's natural
  2080. [5/21/2014 1:02:47 PM] Koontas: Yeah but it doesn't have to be this way. I do this shit for a living. I can give you guys every tool in the world to stay organized but if it's not taken seriously it's not worth the effort.
  2081. [5/21/2014 1:03:30 PM] Koontas: I know how developers work, they don't want to "waste time" on the formalities but they're there for a reason.
  2082. [5/21/2014 1:07:15 PM] Koontas: Well Cryptsy passed on us again. Just sent out their new coin tweet.
  2083. [5/21/2014 1:07:34 PM] argakiig: well fuck them
  2084. [5/21/2014 1:18:11 PM] Logan: Geez, Craptsy strikes again.
  2085. [5/21/2014 1:45:35 PM] Koontas: We are now 100% out of BTC on the pool so all payments will fail.
  2086. [5/21/2014 1:45:41 PM] Koontas: Doubtful they'll catch up either.
  2087. [5/21/2014 1:46:42 PM] Koontas: I take that back .01 but that wont last long.
  2088. [5/21/2014 3:27:46 PM] Logan: Barwizi will have to send that over asap.
  2089. [5/21/2014 3:31:31 PM] Logan: To go back to our bitrive.com idea. One thought is that we can add a giveaway away type mechanism that people can use for their projects. So instead of having a team enter each payee, people can add themselves after creating an account. This would get us a lot of email addresses for people interested in crypto that we can burst to when we launch noirSpace.
  2090. [5/21/2014 3:44:34 PM] Koontas: Good idea.
  2091. [5/21/2014 4:19:00 PM] Logan: French bounty is taken care of: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619791.0
  2092. [5/21/2014 5:19:45 PM] Koontas: (y)
  2093. [5/21/2014 6:10:49 PM] Koontas: I am going to add a post to our thread looking for assistance with the following to see if we get any bites:
- Marketing / Writing
- Forum Administrator
- qt Developer
- Front-end Developer

We need help.
  2094. [5/21/2014 6:11:13 PM] Koontas: I'm NOT trying to replace anyone, but we need help.
  2095. [5/21/2014 6:22:22 PM] Pocket: Interns
  2096. [5/21/2014 6:22:28 PM] Pocket: Needed
  2097. [5/21/2014 6:57:47 PM] Koontas: What if we clone BC for someone and take a % to distribute to NRS holders?
  2098. [5/21/2014 7:21:05 PM] Logan: There are a couple groups already rolling out POS coins then distributing a percentage to their coin holders. BC doesn't bring anything new to the table, I would like to see a Monero clone before BC. That said, what do you mean 'for someone'? Like they want their own coin but don't know how to do it?
  2099. [5/21/2014 7:21:50 PM] Koontas: They are a team that just fired their dev.
  2100. [5/21/2014 7:22:30 PM] Koontas: We literally just have to clone it, do whatever needs to be done to allow NRS holders to redeem and turn it over...
  2101. [5/21/2014 7:22:56 PM] Logan: Okay, that is interesting. That would also keep them coming back for improvements. I like that, it shouldn't take too long, I don't think.
  2102. [5/21/2014 7:23:22 PM] Logan: I would be up for that.
  2103. [5/21/2014 7:23:26 PM] Koontas: Plus, it's kind of a proof of concept for the redemption.
  2104. [5/21/2014 7:23:31 PM] Koontas: I reached out to yvg and Bar.
  2105. [5/21/2014 7:24:05 PM] argakiig: nc2 is coin2.0?
  2106. [5/21/2014 7:24:08 PM] Logan: That is what I am thinking, we need to test that out at some point. We could also test out bitrive.com for the distribution.
  2107. [5/21/2014 7:24:20 PM] Koontas: That's their other coin apparently Arg.
  2108. [5/21/2014 7:24:33 PM] argakiig: odd
  2109. [5/21/2014 7:24:41 PM] argakiig: their op calls it c2
  2110. [5/21/2014 7:24:43 PM] Koontas: They got rid of their dev...
  2111. [5/21/2014 7:24:44 PM] argakiig: and NC2
  2112. [5/21/2014 7:24:46 PM] argakiig: which is it?
  2113. [5/21/2014 7:25:06 PM] Koontas: i dunno, they said nc2
  2114. [5/21/2014 7:25:07 PM] Logan: NC2 is coin 2
  2115. [5/21/2014 7:25:15 PM] Logan: That is just the symbol on poly
  2116. [5/21/2014 7:25:19 PM] argakiig: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483847.0
  2117. [5/21/2014 7:25:29 PM] Koontas: Bittzy, n3lz, slidey
  2118. [5/21/2014 7:25:30 PM] Koontas: no clue
  2119. [5/21/2014 7:25:31 PM] argakiig: bounties are c2
  2120. [5/21/2014 7:25:42 PM] argakiig: symbol are nc2
  2121. [5/21/2014 7:25:47 PM] Koontas: Saw they needed help and thought it would be a good opportunity to test this out.
  2122. [5/21/2014 7:26:18 PM] Koontas: So if we use our distribution engine we literally just have to clone and take a premine.
  2123. [5/21/2014 7:26:41 PM] Koontas: Oh wait...that doesn't work.
  2124. [5/21/2014 7:27:01 PM] argakiig: hrm?
  2125. [5/21/2014 7:27:04 PM] Koontas: cause we'd have to give them NRS
  2126. [5/21/2014 7:27:17 PM] argakiig: is it a new coin
  2127. [5/21/2014 7:27:20 PM] Koontas: we want NRS holders to be able to redeem for this new coin...
  2128. [5/21/2014 7:27:21 PM] argakiig: or c2?
  2129. [5/21/2014 7:27:28 PM] Koontas: they want BC cloned
  2130. [5/21/2014 7:27:31 PM] Koontas: for a new coin
  2131. [5/21/2014 7:27:51 PM] argakiig: ah so fast PoW then variable PoS
  2132. [5/21/2014 7:28:05 PM] Koontas: (nod)
  2133. [5/21/2014 7:32:17 PM] Logan: arga - how long would that take to clone it? Also how difficult is it to take a snapshot?
  2134. [5/21/2014 7:33:01 PM] argakiig: snapshot wouldnt be hard. cloning it wouldnt be too hard either AFAIK
  2135. [5/21/2014 7:33:25 PM] argakiig: its just allocating the percentage of the premine to the existing nrs addresses that could prove to be the challenge
  2136. [5/21/2014 7:33:34 PM] argakiig: that would be something bar would know more about
  2137. [5/21/2014 7:41:42 PM] Koontas: We could just clone, take 1% and distribute amongst GF as our first test
  2138. [5/21/2014 7:42:13 PM] Koontas: Basically I think we should take 20% of any premine they want.
  2139. [5/21/2014 7:44:44 PM] Logan: Well I can think of two ways to be the distribution.
  2140. [5/21/2014 7:45:14 PM] Logan: 1. Import NRS keys into the client and have the wallet distribute the funds to them.
  2141. [5/21/2014 7:45:22 PM] Koontas: They want something quick, they have their ANN all ready to go...keep that in mind.
  2142. [5/21/2014 7:45:27 PM] Logan: Lame because people have to show their keys.
  2143. [5/21/2014 7:45:31 PM] Koontas: ah true
  2144. [5/21/2014 7:46:51 PM] Logan: 2. We do a snapshot, have the premine go to a temporary wallet location we control. Dump the premine and purchase NRS, this NRS is then distributed to the NRS addresses we have in the percentage we had at snapshot.
  2145. [5/21/2014 7:47:09 PM] Koontas: lol I was thinking that too
  2146. [5/21/2014 7:47:42 PM] Logan: Also a 'it will take more time' method: We get people to 'claim their premine' on bitrive.com.
  2147. [5/21/2014 7:47:47 PM] Koontas: but as an NRS holder would it be weird to just receive NRS for an unknown reason?
  2148. [5/21/2014 7:47:55 PM] Koontas: we don't want to really publicize this...
  2149. [5/21/2014 7:48:21 PM] Logan: Basically you give us your address, we match it up then we distribute to their new special wallet that you provided.
  2150. [5/21/2014 7:48:29 PM] Logan: So do they want to keep this on the DL?
  2151. [5/21/2014 7:48:49 PM] Koontas: Oh no, but I think we should if we're gonna dump their coins, buy and distribute NRS
  2152. [5/21/2014 7:48:51 PM] Koontas: that's just not nice
  2153. [5/21/2014 7:48:52 PM] Koontas: lol
  2154. [5/21/2014 7:49:06 PM] Koontas: I'd prefer we find a way to distribute this new coin to NRS holders.
  2155. [5/21/2014 7:49:12 PM] Logan: Okay, why don't we throw it into a temporary wallet then we have some time to figure out what to do.
  2156. [5/21/2014 7:49:57 PM] Koontas: I think we've got to somewhat time it with their release to ensure our holders get the coin soon after launch before it hits a big exchange.
  2157. [5/21/2014 7:52:16 PM] Logan: Just had an idea. Maybe we can get them to sign a message to a certain account from their NRS address with their 'new coin' address? We then go through, link it up with their pecentage after XX days and distribute.
  2158. [5/21/2014 7:52:55 PM] Logan: I think that is the winner right there.
  2159. [5/21/2014 7:53:09 PM] Koontas: Arg? ^^
  2160. [5/21/2014 7:56:47 PM] Koontas: So, like this logan? 
1 - Announce snapshot date
2 - Take snapshot of addresses
3 - Provide list of addresses 
4 - Download Coin X wallet
5 - Sign message from NRS address in list with Coin X address
6 - NG verifies signature and distributes Coin X
  2161. [5/21/2014 7:57:42 PM] Logan: Exactly and we keep everything that isn't claimed after a month or something.
  2162. [5/21/2014 7:59:49 PM] Pocket: This is great
  2163. [5/21/2014 7:59:56 PM] Pocket: Can we do this for other coin groups
  2164. [5/21/2014 7:59:59 PM] Koontas: Pocket!
  2165. [5/21/2014 8:00:04 PM] Koontas: FOCUS DAMNIT!
  2166. [5/21/2014 8:00:08 PM] Pocket: Sorry I was at finery
  2167. [5/21/2014 8:00:10 PM] Pocket: Sinner
  2168. [5/21/2014 8:00:12 PM] Pocket: Dinner
  2169. [5/21/2014 8:00:18 PM] Koontas: You are a sinner!
  2170. [5/21/2014 8:00:20 PM] Koontas: ;)
  2171. [5/21/2014 8:00:32 PM] Pocket: Autocorrect, you are a cruel mistress
  2172. [5/21/2014 8:00:40 PM] Koontas: haha
  2173. [5/21/2014 8:01:02 PM] Koontas: Once we have confirm from Arg this is reasonable we can move forward.
  2174. [5/21/2014 8:11:08 PM] Koontas: Alright, learning more here...
  2175. [5/21/2014 8:13:21 PM] Koontas: So basically they have a coin that is 100% distributed (60 million) they want to fork it to BC and increase to 65 million cap + stake
  2176. [5/21/2014 8:14:17 PM] Logan: We would need more than 1%
  2177. [5/21/2014 8:14:35 PM] Koontas: 1 million?
  2178. [5/21/2014 8:15:47 PM] Logan: That would be almost .5 Newcoin for each NRS so that would work out well. So 1,000 NRS would be like 450ish newcoin.
  2179. [5/21/2014 9:11:08 PM] argakiig: so they want the current coin changed to PoS with an extra 5mill PoW phase added?
  2180. [5/21/2014 9:21:44 PM] Koontas: something like that
  2181. [5/21/2014 9:22:02 PM] Koontas: u gotz the skillz? :)
  2182. [5/21/2014 9:54:04 PM] argakiig: i can try but i think it might require forking
  2183. [5/21/2014 9:54:42 PM] Logan: I think they would be fine with a fork
  2184. [5/21/2014 9:55:03 PM] Koontas: join their IRC... Coin2
  2185. [5/21/2014 9:55:06 PM] Logan: Koontas, do we have an agreement with them yet?
  2186. [5/21/2014 9:55:20 PM] Koontas: want to make sure we can do it first...
  2187. [5/21/2014 10:05:25 PM] Pocket: How the heck do we press release something like this, or do we at all
  2188. [5/21/2014 10:05:53 PM] Pocket: It's just like... Work the Noir Group did because we could, but not really related to anything in the mission statement
  2189. [5/21/2014 10:05:58 PM] Koontas: We helped their community, they're helping ours.
  2190. [5/21/2014 10:08:11 PM] Pocket: This affects all nrs holders, not just the Gen fund
  2191. [5/21/2014 10:08:43 PM] Pocket: It's... Kind of like a massive faucet? Lol
  2192. [5/21/2014 10:09:30 PM] Pocket: But force them to all register their nrs and new coin address with an email in order to collect would be nice
  2193. [5/21/2014 10:09:42 PM] Pocket: I love email blasting...
  2194. [5/21/2014 10:10:29 PM] Logan: Yeah, that is one of the big benefits of bitrive
  2195. [5/21/2014 10:14:33 PM] Koontas: Well, we have .006btc on poloniex for the pool. Guess I better stop mining...
  2196. [5/21/2014 10:15:13 PM] Koontas: (angry)
  2197. [5/21/2014 10:15:39 PM] Pocket: Oh, the new coin distribution goes only to Gen find?
  2198. [5/21/2014 10:15:45 PM] Pocket: Fund*
  2199. [5/21/2014 10:15:55 PM] Koontas: no
  2200. [5/21/2014 10:16:00 PM] Koontas: all NRS holders
  2201. [5/21/2014 10:16:05 PM] Pocket: OK......
  2202. [5/21/2014 10:16:27 PM] Pocket: We're definitely not gonna give away all the new coin lol
  2203. [5/21/2014 10:16:42 PM] Logan: No, we will have a window and then we will keep the rest
  2204. [5/21/2014 10:16:42 PM] Pocket: Unless we can send announcements to wallets
  2205. [5/21/2014 10:17:27 PM] Logan: You snooze, you lose, just like people who left PTC in exchange wallets
  2206. [5/21/2014 10:17:42 PM] Pocket: We don't have to announce to our people as quickly, mainly we have to move fast for nc2, but we can take our time distributing the new coins on our end
  2207. [5/21/2014 10:18:15 PM] Pocket: Gotta write up the press release in a way that makes Noir Group look awesome
  2208. [5/21/2014 10:24:09 PM] Koontas: I sent .02 to poloniex so the pool doesn't topple over: https://blockchain.info/tx/efec3b938a90efbeb22870780bb92dde2f242862739de2b3c6bdd03c469d4943
  2209. [5/21/2014 10:43:30 PM] Pocket: Where's batwizi, someone turn on the batsignal
  2210. [5/21/2014 10:43:51 PM] Koontas: I dunno, need him or Arg.
  2211. [5/21/2014 10:58:04 PM] Koontas: Heading to bed guys. Pocket go talk to those guys in #Coin2 on IRC.
  2212. [5/21/2014 11:03:37 PM] argakiig: Won't be able to do anything tonight yet
  2213. [5/21/2014 11:03:49 PM] argakiig: Son is being difficult
  2214. [5/22/2014 12:37:38 AM] Barwizi: My son too
  2215. [5/22/2014 12:37:57 AM] Barwizi: I will address all of you very soon
  2216. [5/22/2014 12:38:06 AM] Barwizi: Just a few more hours
  2217. [5/22/2014 7:03:40 AM] Logan: Did I ever tell you guys how great my daughter is? No, she is terrible too.
  2218. [5/22/2014 10:21:09 AM] Koontas: I'm taking the next few days off of doing any "work". I'll be around for general chat but that's it. If anyone wants to work on anything in the google doc or reach out to the Coin2 guys, feel free...
  2219. [5/22/2014 11:09:43 AM] Logan: No worries. I'll spearhead the clone project and make sure that is moving.
  2220. [5/22/2014 11:51:46 AM] Pocket: in coin2 chat keeping them alive
  2221. [5/22/2014 11:52:38 AM] Koontas: thx Pocket
  2222. [5/22/2014 12:04:38 PM] Pocket: 65 million , PoS at 8% (probably) staking after 2 weeks or 30 days
  2223. [5/22/2014 12:04:50 PM] Pocket: if needed they can make a decision on the stake right now
  2224. [5/22/2014 12:25:56 PM] Logan: Well we need to find out from Arga how hard is this and how soon it can get done then we can hammer out a deal with them.
  2225. [5/22/2014 12:54:53 PM] argakiig: the coin is PoW currently?
  2226. [5/22/2014 12:55:10 PM] argakiig: cause im not quite sure what would be required to switch it to PoS.
  2227. [5/22/2014 12:55:16 PM] argakiig: but when I get home I can look into it
  2228. [5/22/2014 12:57:40 PM] Logan: Okay, awesome, let's talk tonight then
  2229. [5/22/2014 1:03:23 PM] Pocket: it's PoS like communitycoin
  2230. [5/22/2014 1:03:34 PM] Pocket: double spend attack occurred on mintpal due to low confirmations
  2231. [5/22/2014 1:07:02 PM] Koontas: May want to be careful about what we say we're working on in the other chat...
  2232. [5/22/2014 1:07:10 PM] Koontas: The fact of the matter is, we have no clue what is or is not being worked on.
  2233. [5/22/2014 1:07:11 PM] Pocket: yea
  2234. [5/22/2014 1:07:27 PM] Pocket: i'm just running with what is in the OP
  2235. [5/22/2014 1:08:02 PM] Koontas: thats fine, just don't want people disappointed
  2236. [5/22/2014 1:08:03 PM] Pocket: the important thing is we're still working
  2237. [5/22/2014 1:08:09 PM] Koontas: are we?
  2238. [5/22/2014 1:08:14 PM] Pocket: aren't we?
  2239. [5/22/2014 1:08:15 PM] Pocket: lol
  2240. [5/22/2014 1:08:18 PM] Koontas: what are we working on? i have no clue.
  2241. [5/22/2014 1:08:23 PM] Koontas: i seriously have no clue.
  2242. [5/22/2014 1:08:26 PM] Pocket: well, that's your job
  2243. [5/22/2014 1:08:30 PM] Pocket: you don't actually do anything
  2244. [5/22/2014 1:08:31 PM] Koontas: yeah well i can't do my job
  2245. [5/22/2014 1:08:33 PM] Pocket: except make sure others do things
  2246. [5/22/2014 1:08:42 PM] Koontas: i'm not being given the information i need to do my job
  2247. [5/22/2014 1:08:45 PM] Pocket: me too
  2248. [5/22/2014 1:08:50 PM] Pocket: i rely on the scraps barwizi throws down at me
  2249. [5/22/2014 1:08:51 PM] Pocket: lol
  2250. [5/22/2014 1:08:51 PM] Koontas: i cannot get a response out of barwizi to save my life
  2251. [5/22/2014 1:08:54 PM] Pocket: which is what i work with
  2252. [5/22/2014 1:09:04 PM] Pocket: the rest i have to hocus pocus into creation
  2253. [5/22/2014 1:09:04 PM] Koontas: well, until we see something, dont talk about it
  2254. [5/22/2014 1:09:17 PM] Pocket: kind of trying to read his mind about the direction he's trying to go
  2255. [5/22/2014 1:09:28 PM] Koontas: well that may bite us in the ass
  2256. [5/22/2014 1:09:37 PM] Pocket: so far so good
  2257. [5/22/2014 1:09:41 PM] Pocket: will be more careful
  2258. [5/22/2014 1:09:47 PM] Pocket: i agree
  2259. [5/22/2014 1:09:57 PM] Koontas: eh not just you
  2260. [5/22/2014 1:10:03 PM] Koontas: all of us, i like to talk about it too
  2261. [5/22/2014 1:10:10 PM] Koontas: just feeling VERY uncertain right now
  2262. [5/22/2014 1:10:46 PM] Pocket: lots of moves happening on crypto right now, just be secure in the fact that bar is looking steps ahead
  2263. [5/22/2014 1:11:04 PM] Pocket: gotta look 2-3-4 steps ahead and work on them now so that by the time we're ready with them, the market will be ready for us
  2264. [5/22/2014 1:11:19 PM] Koontas: I need answers and I'm not getting them. That does not leave me feeling secure.
  2265. [5/22/2014 1:11:39 PM] Pocket: yeah, could use more input from devs
  2266. [5/22/2014 1:11:49 PM] Koontas: I need to know what is going on with our finances.
  2267. [5/22/2014 1:11:51 PM] Koontas: Period.
  2268. [5/22/2014 1:11:56 PM] Koontas: I dont give a shit about anything else right now.
  2269. [5/22/2014 1:11:57 PM] Pocket: that part has been a consistent dark spot
  2270. [5/22/2014 1:12:05 PM] Koontas: If we don't have solid finances we are wasting our time here.
  2271. [5/22/2014 1:12:36 PM] Koontas: We have a 500k premine, people will want to know where it's going.
  2272. [5/22/2014 1:12:45 PM] Pocket: holy shit 500k? thought it was 250k
  2273. [5/22/2014 1:12:51 PM] Pocket: lmao
  2274. [5/22/2014 1:12:53 PM] Koontas: Whatever it is...
  2275. [5/22/2014 1:12:57 PM] Koontas: Who knows.
  2276. [5/22/2014 1:13:04 PM] Pocket: that block 10 shows 250k
  2277. [5/22/2014 1:13:15 PM] Koontas: ok then 250k
  2278. [5/22/2014 1:13:22 PM] Koontas: still have no clue how much NG has
  2279. [5/22/2014 1:13:36 PM] Pocket: yeah
  2280. [5/22/2014 2:55:51 PM] Pocket: ppl asking why we didn't have a gen fund vote on the multipool
  2281. [5/22/2014 3:28:00 PM] Logan: It is only because we are hitting the chicken / egg issue of getting multi pool hash.
  2282. [5/22/2014 3:28:25 PM] Logan: If it has huge hash and was paying out then they would love it.
  2283. [5/22/2014 3:28:47 PM] Pocket: i think it's good for our overall infrastructure regardless, but after BC the craze did die down
  2284. [5/22/2014 3:59:10 PM] Koontas: We still need BTC sent to poloniex for the pool.
  2285. [5/22/2014 4:16:31 PM] Pocket: barwizi pool needs btc to float at the exchanges
  2286. [5/22/2014 4:17:00 PM] Barwizi: how much?
  2287. [5/22/2014 4:17:19 PM] Barwizi: btw, why would the pool need us to fork out money again?
  2288. [5/22/2014 4:17:38 PM] Koontas: grndnpnd can explain in the other chat
  2289. [5/22/2014 4:17:57 PM] Koontas: something to do with fees and how the transfers work
  2290. [5/22/2014 4:19:53 PM] *** Barwizi sent Proposal for new DAC.docx ***
  2291. [5/22/2014 4:21:31 PM] Pocket: it's like a buffer fund because of delays in transfers between pool and exchange
  2292. [5/22/2014 4:23:31 PM] Pocket: LOL
  2293. [5/22/2014 4:23:43 PM] Pocket: some of the concepts are even above bar's head?!
  2294. [5/22/2014 4:24:09 PM] Pocket: yvg just too smart ;(
  2295. [5/22/2014 4:24:32 PM] Barwizi: lol, he's had my entire lifetime to get smarter and some
  2296. [5/22/2014 4:28:16 PM] Pocket: nice, noirspace proporsal NEM style wallet in QT form, noir content store as a block/window inside the noirspace, along with other dac module blocks
  2297. [5/22/2014 4:28:47 PM] Pocket: could be DACs, could be free/productivity apps, feeds
  2298. [5/22/2014 4:35:39 PM] Barwizi: I realised that we were tossing ideas but not making any formal proposals, which is bad because we need to understand and nitpick the full scope of a project and it can actually be improved if everyone can see what it is exactly we are aiming for
  2299. [5/22/2014 4:36:20 PM] Pocket: this is not anything that needs to be approved by the gen fund is it, it's just us working on NRS
  2300. [5/22/2014 4:37:27 PM] Barwizi: That depends on how you look at it.
  2301. [5/22/2014 4:38:19 PM] Barwizi: if yvg agrees that we do the mulit-PoW inside NRS and we get a QT dev to do the wallet mods to NRS as well, then we wont need any votes
  2302. [5/22/2014 4:38:28 PM] Barwizi: it simply becomes an update
  2303. [5/22/2014 4:38:38 PM] Barwizi: and i kinda like the idea
  2304. [5/22/2014 4:39:05 PM] Barwizi: rather have it all in one, which makes it easier to handle than a lot of programs each needing maintanance
  2305. [5/22/2014 4:39:50 PM] Barwizi: we are short on QT devs, sowe need to approach the guys who have already done mods to other wallets in the general direction we want
  2306. [5/22/2014 4:40:04 PM] Koontas: IMO we need James...
  2307. [5/22/2014 4:40:21 PM] Koontas: Barwizi, do you want to try to entice him with your new idea?
  2308. [5/22/2014 4:41:05 PM] Barwizi: Hmm, no
  2309. [5/22/2014 4:41:11 PM] Koontas: Alright.
  2310. [5/22/2014 4:41:28 PM] Koontas: Well, I have absolutely no suggestions for Qt devs. I've asked everyone I know and made a post in our thread with no response.
  2311. [5/22/2014 4:43:34 PM] Barwizi: you mentioned silk coin
  2312. [5/22/2014 4:43:48 PM] Barwizi: can we entice that dev maybe?
  2313. [5/22/2014 4:44:31 PM] Koontas: Entice with what?
  2314. [5/22/2014 4:48:31 PM] Barwizi: a bit of coin
  2315. [5/22/2014 4:48:32 PM] Barwizi: BTC
  2316. [5/22/2014 4:49:59 PM] Koontas: So you want to pay another dev with no obligation to NG to work on a completely new concept?
  2317. [5/22/2014 4:50:24 PM] Koontas: It's going to hard to borrow a dev from a coin that's currently still developing.
  2318. [5/22/2014 4:50:52 PM] Barwizi: We have to compromise
  2319. [5/22/2014 4:51:05 PM] Barwizi: ah, but money talks
  2320. [5/22/2014 4:51:52 PM] Koontas: Alright, I'll reach out and put you guys in touch...
  2321. [5/22/2014 4:54:24 PM] *** Pocket sent noirspace1.jpg ***
  2322. [5/22/2014 4:54:35 PM] Pocket: just a quick photoshop....
  2323. [5/22/2014 5:02:57 PM] Pocket: who downloaded it, can u share
  2324. [5/22/2014 5:02:59 PM] Pocket: i gotta shut down my comp
  2325. [5/22/2014 6:38:01 PM] Logan: Isn't Myraid already a multiPOW?
  2326. [5/22/2014 8:27:59 PM] Koontas: Yeah, I'm not sure of the difference.
  2327. [5/22/2014 9:02:41 PM] argakiig: so hasing things out with nc2
  2328. [5/22/2014 9:02:53 PM] argakiig: seeing what the scope would entail
  2329. [5/22/2014 9:03:39 PM] Logan: Okay
  2330. [5/22/2014 9:03:53 PM] Koontas: lol this was such a random deal
  2331. [5/22/2014 9:08:49 PM] argakiig: K so they want a BC clone with a 62m premine to reimburse nc2 holders, plus 1m premine for NG, followed by a 7m PoW phase
  2332. [5/22/2014 9:09:28 PM] argakiig: and win osx and linux qt's
  2333. [5/22/2014 9:09:42 PM] argakiig: we have free reign on coin specifications
  2334. [5/22/2014 9:11:30 PM] Koontas: I vote (y) (also gives us the opportunity to test out manual distribution)
  2335. [5/22/2014 9:12:55 PM] Logan: Well we want to auto it as we will use it in the future
  2336. [5/22/2014 9:12:55 PM] argakiig: as in sign a transaction to include your GF NRS address and you will be given your share?
  2337. [5/22/2014 9:13:04 PM] Logan: Yeah, that was my idea
  2338. [5/22/2014 9:13:13 PM] argakiig: I like
  2339. [5/22/2014 9:13:26 PM] Koontas: Yea, that was a great idea.
  2340. [5/22/2014 9:13:47 PM] argakiig: assuming we have a complete list of GF NRS addresses by then
  2341. [5/22/2014 9:14:00 PM] Koontas: all addresses over certain limit, not just GF
  2342. [5/22/2014 9:14:01 PM] Logan: We would have it from the snapshot
  2343. [5/22/2014 9:14:10 PM] argakiig: ok well back in a few wife and baby becon
  2344. [5/22/2014 9:14:16 PM] argakiig: and snapshot, even better
  2345. [5/22/2014 9:14:41 PM] Logan: I was thinking of doing a 1,000 NRS cut off so it encourages people to acquire more if they are short
  2346. [5/22/2014 9:15:08 PM] Koontas: Will the little guys complain?
  2347. [5/22/2014 9:16:23 PM] Logan: It is only .3 BTC
  2348. [5/22/2014 9:17:47 PM] Logan: It will also encourage people to consolidate smaller amounts together, which will destroy POS
  2349. [5/22/2014 9:17:51 PM] Logan: coin days
  2350. [5/22/2014 9:47:04 PM] Koontas: I'm just going to throw this out there...curious what you think. I feel like everyone in this group has done a hell of a lot of work lately and we deserve to be rewarded a little. I'd propose that a small % of the 1m coins we will receive be split amongst board members.
  2351. [5/22/2014 9:47:41 PM] Logan: maybe the non-redeemed portion?
  2352. [5/22/2014 9:48:03 PM] Koontas: non-redeemed after 30 days?
  2353. [5/22/2014 9:48:15 PM] Koontas: or 2 weeks?
  2354. [5/22/2014 9:48:52 PM] Logan: Well if it goes more than 30 days then I don't think they will ever be redeemed
  2355. [5/22/2014 9:48:58 PM] Koontas: yep
  2356. [5/22/2014 9:49:07 PM] Koontas: i think 2 weeks is plenty of time personally
  2357. [5/22/2014 9:49:13 PM] Koontas: people are either paying attention or they're not
  2358. [5/22/2014 9:49:24 PM] Logan: Well I am worried about the big bag holder who goes on vacation
  2359. [5/22/2014 9:49:42 PM] Koontas: yea fair enough
  2360. [5/22/2014 9:49:53 PM] Logan: Well let's give it two weeks publically and we can always wait another week or two unofficially.
  2361. [5/22/2014 9:50:29 PM] Koontas: (y)
  2362. [5/22/2014 10:08:05 PM] argakiig: k so got them switching to Silkcoin
  2363. [5/22/2014 10:08:25 PM] argakiig: that way I can learn my way around its programming and pull stuff from it into the NRS wallet :P
  2364. [5/22/2014 10:08:32 PM] Koontas: nice!
  2365. [5/22/2014 10:08:36 PM] Logan: Nice, good thinking
  2366. [5/22/2014 10:12:41 PM] argakiig: k
  2367. [5/22/2014 10:12:49 PM] argakiig: so they would want a pool for PoS phase as well
  2368. [5/22/2014 10:12:55 PM] argakiig: if we want to do that
  2369. [5/22/2014 10:13:14 PM] Logan: We can arrange that probably
  2370. [5/22/2014 10:13:27 PM] argakiig: K so this should work quite nicely then
  2371. [5/22/2014 10:13:31 PM] Logan: There would be an additional cost, but let's not worry just yet
  2372. [5/22/2014 10:13:37 PM] argakiig: yeah there would
  2373. [5/22/2014 10:13:46 PM] argakiig: I am going to run a pool for them for the PoW phase
  2374. [5/22/2014 10:13:53 PM] Koontas: i'm sure they'll have coin left over too from their distro....
  2375. [5/22/2014 10:14:34 PM] argakiig: this is shaping up quite nicely.
  2376. [5/22/2014 10:15:44 PM] Logan: Not just that, but I am sure that they will have additional improvements in mind later that we could do for them.
  2377. [5/22/2014 10:25:12 PM] Pocket: ... How do I explain this in a press release lol
  2378. [5/22/2014 10:25:42 PM] Pocket: Noir Group is doing work, and using this coin job as a test for our new dac
  2379. [5/22/2014 10:25:49 PM] Pocket: Or something
  2380. [5/22/2014 10:26:37 PM] Koontas: well, we still need to work out the distribution...i'm not sure how we could automate the process we'd need for this
  2381. [5/22/2014 10:27:21 PM] Koontas: unless we could automate checking of signatures for submitted addresses
  2382. [5/22/2014 10:28:25 PM] argakiig: You don't yet
  2383. [5/22/2014 10:32:53 PM] Logan: Koontas, we could set up a simple sign up webpage that people enter three fields. Signature, new NC2 address, and their email (so we can burst them later). We feed all of these into a CSV, do a check of the signature and then we can use bitrave to distribute it.
  2384. [5/22/2014 10:33:10 PM] Koontas: (y)
  2385. [5/22/2014 10:35:15 PM] Logan: 4 fields, we would need their NRS address as well
  2386. [5/22/2014 10:35:50 PM] Logan: Well 3 fields, we can use the email address as their signature message...
  2387. [5/22/2014 10:36:00 PM] Koontas: email required and requires confirmation?
  2388. [5/22/2014 10:36:25 PM] Koontas: signature should be the new coin address
  2389. [5/22/2014 10:36:43 PM] Logan: Well to verify the signature we need the address, the message, and the signature.
  2390. [5/22/2014 10:36:55 PM] Logan: the new coin address should be the message
  2391. [5/22/2014 10:37:14 PM] Koontas: gotcha
  2392. [5/22/2014 10:37:22 PM] Logan: In fact, we can test this right now.
  2393. [5/22/2014 10:37:38 PM] Logan: 9XBRWfQyH7SC5Jd5mfxr9n48qq9xKdmmSe my NRS
  2394. [5/22/2014 10:38:15 PM] Logan: Ad585n838RnVM7y8Ay9GFPAyP1C46i5X31 my message
  2395. [5/22/2014 10:38:29 PM] Logan: INAeentjz35BmBKIeyAzoV1gRA2g6qzumSUNc6qvwwJhONo0+u50cUeerxSRxV2nxvZQpV6Jsfo5Fkwj13YXw+I=
  2396. [5/22/2014 10:38:32 PM] Logan: My signature.
  2397. [5/22/2014 10:39:06 PM] Logan: Koontas - open the NRS wallet and go to File - Verify message and let me know if it works.
  2398. [5/22/2014 10:40:43 PM] Koontas: what did i do wrong? http://puu.sh/8XuUz.png
  2399. [5/22/2014 10:43:45 PM] Logan: The top line would be my NRS line, the only thing in the second box should be my message (Ad...)
  2400. [5/22/2014 10:44:40 PM] Koontas: k
  2401. [5/22/2014 10:45:20 PM] Koontas: verified
  2402. [5/22/2014 10:47:32 PM] Logan: Cool right?
  2403. [5/22/2014 10:47:41 PM] Logan: This is an easy way to verify accounts in the future.
  2404. [5/22/2014 10:47:50 PM] Logan: and we don't need private keys
  2405. [5/22/2014 10:48:16 PM] Koontas: Yea, that's great.
  2406. [5/23/2014 12:15:48 AM] Logan: We got asked to be an exhibitor in a Bitcoin conference in Vienna on May 30th... 7 day warning... Jeez, amateurs.
  2407. [5/23/2014 12:16:22 AM] Logan: We couldn't afford it either way but who gives 7 days notice.
  2408. [5/23/2014 9:49:00 AM] Barwizi: if all goes well your tier one benefits will be NRS, tier 2 will be a much rare NRB and finally the jackpot tier 3 that gives you the super cool very rare Noir-something
  2409. [5/23/2014 2:19:00 PM] *** Pocket sent noirspace1.jpg ***
  2410. [5/23/2014 3:03:06 PM] *** Pocket sent noirspace1.jpg ***
  2411. [5/23/2014 3:03:13 PM] Pocket: cleaned up a little bit
  2412. [5/23/2014 4:40:44 PM] Pocket: lol @ coin2 infighting
  2413. [5/23/2014 4:41:47 PM] argakiig: serious
  2414. [5/23/2014 4:42:26 PM] Pocket: if i'm reading this correctly, mintpals gigantic wallet caused 51% on their PoS network?
  2415. [5/23/2014 4:45:52 PM] Koontas: Guys, if anyone sees Barwizi, we need the eligius mining address changed to: 1LmAPLKxhp3kvGS9rFTUpkaBgg1YfSD3i5
  2416. [5/23/2014 4:46:15 PM] Koontas: Poloniex can't handle eligius apparently...
  2417. [5/23/2014 4:55:38 PM] Koontas: Do we have all BTC/NRS addresses collected yet?
  2418. [5/23/2014 4:56:29 PM] Pocket: im missing grnd, andrew, hermancoin, username here, 8bithero, barwizi, 261954178, cc5alive
  2419. [5/23/2014 4:56:31 PM] Pocket: tiau
  2420. [5/23/2014 4:56:52 PM] Pocket: emailed them, PM them on forum, no other method to contact
  2421. [5/23/2014 4:59:20 PM] Koontas: alright, well, whoever doesn't give an address buy sunday is not getting the first NRS payout...
  2422. [5/23/2014 4:59:43 PM] Pocket: can i post that in the forum
  2423. [5/23/2014 4:59:47 PM] Pocket: need addresses by sunday for first payout
  2424. [5/23/2014 5:00:02 PM] Koontas: Wait til Arg confirms good on his end.
  2425. [5/23/2014 5:00:08 PM | Edited 5:00:59 PM] Koontas: But fine once confirmed.
  2426. [5/23/2014 5:04:54 PM] argakiig: I will have it by sunday
  2427. [5/23/2014 5:17:58 PM] Koontas: Alright Pocket, Sunday it is.
  2428. [5/23/2014 5:20:01 PM] Koontas: I'm making some nice strategic NRS buys for our shareholders. (y)
  2429. [5/23/2014 5:20:06 PM] Koontas: Trying to get as many as I can.
  2430. [5/23/2014 5:21:30 PM] Pocket: ? What do you mean
  2431. [5/23/2014 5:21:45 PM] Pocket: Gen fund buying nrs?
  2432. [5/23/2014 5:21:51 PM] Koontas: I mean I'm buying NRS for the GF from the mining btc...
  2433. [5/23/2014 5:22:16 PM] Koontas: The 3th/s that was pointed at noirpool before is on eligius and I'm using the btc to buy nrs so we can pay GF
  2434. [5/23/2014 5:23:05 PM] Pocket: Nice, how'd that cure coin mining go
  2435. [5/23/2014 5:23:26 PM] Koontas: You'd have to ask Barwizi, as far as I know they aren't in the wallet Logan has.
  2436. [5/23/2014 5:25:02 PM] Koontas: There is either a bot on NRS buys or someone watching like a freaking hawk.
  2437. [5/23/2014 5:25:47 PM] Pocket: Lol are you trying to bid low
  2438. [5/23/2014 5:26:08 PM] Koontas: I got some at .0003
  2439. [5/23/2014 5:26:56 PM] Pocket: Use the funds to put a buy wall until Sunday, then buy at market
  2440. [5/23/2014 5:27:16 PM] Pocket: With whatever left
  2441. [5/23/2014 5:36:10 PM] Pocket: Is there a front end for the bit rive distribution, where ppl can see list of addresses and % payout
  2442. [5/23/2014 5:36:37 PM] Pocket: So Gen fund for example can see transactions list
  2443. [5/23/2014 5:36:50 PM] argakiig: There can be, there currently is not
  2444. [5/23/2014 5:37:03 PM] argakiig: though that wont be ready by sunday
  2445. [5/23/2014 5:37:08 PM] Pocket: It's a great way to show off the whole DAC thing
  2446. [5/23/2014 5:38:09 PM] Pocket: It's OK, just need to show it eventually so investors can audit, and so other coin groups can see the potential and want to use the service
  2447. [5/23/2014 5:38:34 PM] argakiig: What I am currently making is just a back end internal tool
  2448. [5/23/2014 5:38:45 PM] argakiig: I was not aware we had chosen to expand it to a full DAC
  2449. [5/23/2014 5:55:09 PM] Pocket: Koontas and logan explanation previously made it look like it, taking % of transaction, collecting emails, etc
  2450. [5/23/2014 5:55:16 PM] Pocket: Bitrive and such
  2451. [5/23/2014 5:56:10 PM] argakiig: no, I have a backend tool in the works. we had not finalized any sort of DAC for it.
  2452. [5/23/2014 5:56:18 PM] argakiig: we had discussed making one
  2453. [5/23/2014 5:56:26 PM] argakiig: but as far as I know it had not been finalized
  2454. [5/23/2014 5:56:45 PM] Pocket: Ok yeah that's coo, doesn't need to be dac yet
  2455. [5/23/2014 5:57:00 PM] Pocket: Is nice idea for dac though eventually
  2456. [5/24/2014 12:22:58 AM] cass: Hey dudes
  2457. [5/24/2014 12:23:10 AM] cass: i got problems with nrs osx wallet
  2458. [5/24/2014 12:23:22 AM] cass: can't start anymore after try to install the current version
  2459. [5/24/2014 12:23:48 AM] cass: is there an error log anwhere so i can maybe check why
  2460. [5/24/2014 5:39:15 PM] Koontas: We are NOT sending out NRS to our GF holders tomorrow. The 3th/s of pointers were pointed back to the BTC address only Barwizi has control of and there's no point in sending them just over 500 NRS.
  2461. [5/24/2014 5:39:54 PM] argakiig: cass in the app dir check debug.log
  2462. [5/24/2014 5:43:42 PM | Removed 5:54:29 PM] Koontas: This message has been removed.
  2463. [5/24/2014 5:43:52 PM | Removed 5:54:27 PM] Koontas: This message has been removed.
  2464. [5/24/2014 5:44:28 PM | Removed 5:54:23 PM] Koontas: This message has been removed.
  2465. [5/24/2014 5:44:40 PM | Removed 5:54:19 PM] Koontas: This message has been removed.
  2466. [5/24/2014 5:53:29 PM] Pocket: Bar
  2467. [5/24/2014 6:54:10 PM] Logan: I don't think that I distributed this to the rest of the board but here is my distribution plan for NoirSpace. Any feedback is welcome. Mergemining is togglable (toggleable?).
  2468. [5/24/2014 6:54:12 PM] Logan: http://puu.sh/8ZvYI.xlsx
  2469. [5/25/2014 1:51:55 AM] *** cass has left ***
  2470. [5/25/2014 11:33:43 PM] Koontas: Pocket - we need to get a post up to get people to start applying to replace cass. Have them post resume in the thread and then we'll vote.
  2471. [5/25/2014 11:35:02 PM] Barwizi: oh, well
  2472. [5/25/2014 11:35:02 PM] Barwizi: i am already thinking of going H.A.M on the wallet interface a bit
  2473. [5/25/2014 11:36:24 PM] Barwizi: gonna spend the dya trying to get it to look like the silkcoin wallet first
  2474. [5/25/2014 11:37:48 PM] Koontas: Bar, Arg may have some tips for you.
  2475. [5/25/2014 11:38:15 PM] Barwizi: i think he's busy
  2476. [5/25/2014 11:38:31 PM] Barwizi: asked him to look at something, he hasnt responded
  2477. [5/25/2014 11:38:41 PM] Koontas: yea, he hasn't been around today
  2478. [5/25/2014 11:39:14 PM] Barwizi: have you looke
  2479. [5/25/2014 11:39:22 PM] Barwizi: at the NEM web wallet?
  2480. [5/25/2014 11:39:31 PM] Koontas: I saw some images...
  2481. [5/25/2014 11:39:58 PM] Barwizi: yeah, i want a hybrid of the two
  2482. [5/25/2014 11:40:28 PM] Barwizi: with the nem stuff dealing with NoirSpace material and the silk stuff dealing with blockchain stuff
  2483. [5/25/2014 11:40:44 PM] Barwizi: i'm gonna try it out and see what happens
  2484. [5/25/2014 11:40:52 PM] Koontas: sounds good
  2485. [5/25/2014 11:41:22 PM] Barwizi: later if yvg gets back to me, we can add the NRB and NRT stuff
  2486. [5/25/2014 11:41:34 PM] Barwizi: or should it be NRL?
  2487. [5/25/2014 11:48:29 PM] Logan: I am fine with either one.
  2488. [5/25/2014 11:48:41 PM] Barwizi: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4691.0
  2489. [5/25/2014 11:49:03 PM] Barwizi: seems, the Lottery part will have competition
  2490. [5/25/2014 11:50:38 PM] Logan: Suspended because chancecoin didn't get traction
  2491. [5/25/2014 11:51:18 PM] Logan: I don't see the gambling section being huge until it is user friendly and you can bring in fiat.
  2492. [5/25/2014 11:55:38 PM] Logan: Disappointing that Cass took off without saying anything.
  2493. [5/25/2014 11:59:48 PM] Barwizi: meh, i tend to just "brush my shoulder"
  2494. [5/26/2014 12:01:55 AM] Barwizi: the nice part about the way i intend to implement it is it's just raising the focus on how producing the right hash has always been about luck
  2495. [5/26/2014 12:02:17 AM] Barwizi: it requires no extra input from the user ergo, user friendly and hash green
  2496. [5/26/2014 1:32:16 AM] Barwizi: ok, so programming mode "ON"
  2497. [5/26/2014 3:52:49 AM] Barwizi: so, first thing is to upgrade the code base, we need to go up and start using leveldb
  2498. [5/26/2014 3:52:49 AM] Barwizi: i think that is very important
  2499. [5/26/2014 6:42:51 AM] Barwizi: Idea has been proven, i talked with the originator of the algorithm and he said it's possible
  2500. [5/26/2014 6:43:01 AM] Barwizi: just needs clean conditions that wont clash
  2501. [5/26/2014 6:43:12 AM] Barwizi: so Arg, asap please
  2502. [5/26/2014 6:43:38 AM] Barwizi: i am already upgrading the codebase to add leveldb and newer json
  2503. [5/26/2014 6:43:49 AM] Barwizi: later i will look into adding libzeerocoin
  2504. [5/26/2014 9:42:47 AM] Pocket: Thought we weren't going anon
  2505. [5/26/2014 2:32:11 PM] Koontas: What is our official statement on the pool Barwizi?
  2506. [5/26/2014 2:49:53 PM] Pocket: I wrote temporarily down while we make some improvements
  2507. [5/26/2014 3:45:54 PM] Barwizi: The upcoming update will also cut total NRS from 5 million down to 2.5
  2508. [5/27/2014 10:29:23 AM] Pocket: how bad is it that ypool will be mad
  2509. [5/27/2014 10:32:15 AM] argakiig: honestly w/e
  2510. [5/27/2014 10:33:24 AM] Koontas: i dont think it's a big deal
  2511. [5/27/2014 10:34:40 AM] Pocket: ok so the vote is
  2512. [5/27/2014 10:34:57 AM] Pocket: Should we end PoW phase for NRS early (around 3 million instead of 5 million) and go directly to PoS only
  2513. [5/27/2014 10:35:04 AM] Pocket: Yes/No
  2514. [5/27/2014 11:01:47 AM] Pocket: are we gonna give an exact number for the end of PoW, like a block # or total NRS number
  2515. [5/27/2014 11:08:10 AM] Barwizi: what is the current block number?
  2516. [5/27/2014 11:08:44 AM] Barwizi: how goes the pool?
  2517. [5/27/2014 11:08:52 AM] argakiig: 36990
  2518. [5/27/2014 11:08:52 AM] Koontas: how goes what on the pool?
  2519. [5/27/2014 11:09:06 AM] Barwizi: we need to do this at the same time as we relaunch the pool and release updated wallet
  2520. [5/27/2014 11:09:17 AM] Koontas: are you talking about merge mining again?
  2521. [5/27/2014 11:09:21 AM] Barwizi: yup
  2522. [5/27/2014 11:09:24 AM] Barwizi: yes
  2523. [5/27/2014 11:09:26 AM] Barwizi: yeah
  2524. [5/27/2014 11:09:31 AM] Barwizi: hell yes
  2525. [5/27/2014 11:09:43 AM] Koontas: Okay, let me be clear, there will be NO MERGE MINING ON THE POOL until we have a dev that can do it...
  2526. [5/27/2014 11:09:48 AM] Koontas: We've said that a million times now...
  2527. [5/27/2014 11:09:56 AM] Koontas: Give us a dev and we'll get it done.
  2528. [5/27/2014 11:10:06 AM] Barwizi: да
  2529. [5/27/2014 11:10:33 AM] Koontas: If it was as easy as you say it is, it would be done by someone...
  2530. [5/27/2014 11:10:39 AM] Barwizi: actually we can just use P2Pool
  2531. [5/27/2014 11:11:32 AM] Barwizi: apparently all we need to do is run it with the command lines indicating which and how many daemons we are running
  2532. [5/27/2014 11:11:47 AM] Koontas: ill talk to grndnpnd and his team about it
  2533. [5/27/2014 11:11:48 AM] Barwizi: i'll try that setup @ home
  2534. [5/27/2014 11:12:00 AM] Barwizi: so i can also give feedback
  2535. [5/27/2014 11:16:46 AM] Pocket: so do i hold the vote for ending PoW
  2536. [5/27/2014 11:16:53 AM] Pocket: or send it now
  2537. [5/27/2014 11:17:27 AM] Barwizi: I think lets do it
  2538. [5/27/2014 11:17:37 AM] Pocket: what # NRS or block
  2539. [5/27/2014 11:34:31 AM] argakiig: anyone see poloniex appears to be down.
  2540. [5/27/2014 11:35:01 AM] Pocket: yup
  2541. [5/27/2014 11:37:43 AM] Pocket: but we're on cryptsy ;D
  2542. [5/27/2014 11:37:47 AM] Pocket: so f u poloniex
  2543. [5/27/2014 11:40:01 AM] Koontas: poloniex has been a POS lately...takes 10+ attempts for me to login...
  2544. [5/27/2014 11:40:47 AM] Barwizi: lol, a PoS
  2545. [5/27/2014 11:40:54 AM] Koontas: ;)
  2546. [5/27/2014 11:41:22 AM] Pocket: i am preparing for a community promotions campaign i've tentatively named "Noird Rush"
  2547. [5/27/2014 11:41:33 AM] Pocket: feedback appreciated
  2548. [5/27/2014 11:43:04 AM] Barwizi: once we cut off the PoW
  2549. [5/27/2014 11:43:22 AM] Barwizi: and have a pool running, we'll start destroying NRS
  2550. [5/27/2014 11:43:26 AM] Barwizi: (devil)
  2551. [5/27/2014 11:43:39 AM] Barwizi: untl there is one million left
  2552. [5/27/2014 11:43:54 AM] Barwizi: then we'll go bull
  2553. [5/27/2014 12:22:29 PM] Pocket: noird rush thoughts https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZAaXf-_5FSNOHySra_S7iLclO2wbyOwVN_g_PIeyWBc/edit?usp=sharing
  2554. [5/27/2014 12:34:56 PM] Pocket: is yvg part of ypool?
  2555. [5/27/2014 1:05:28 PM] Koontas: no
  2556. [5/27/2014 1:24:54 PM] Pocket: what do you guys think of buying out specific altcoins who have DAC style functionality and installing them into NoirSpace
  2557. [5/27/2014 1:25:32 PM] Pocket: or do we just try to become so enticing that they approach us to have them be in the space
  2558. [5/27/2014 1:27:44 PM] Pocket: at some point i think absorbing other coins is gonna happen
  2559. [5/27/2014 1:39:51 PM] Pocket: Techo051 - Hi, just wondered if you could explain the rationale a bit for ending the POW phase. I imagine this would have a big impact on how NRS is perceived by everyone except the general fund members. It would be similar to the NXT IPO ending early and I personally think it could have a large, negative effect on the price. Obviously you are putting it to a vote, but I just wondered if you could explain some of the benefits you see coming from this (aside from the obvious one that large current stakeholders won't suffer further dilution).
  2560.  
  2561. Thanks!
  2562. [5/27/2014 1:49:40 PM] Koontas: Are there any coins that did not depreciate in value once PoW ended?
  2563. [5/27/2014 1:49:53 PM] Barwizi: actually, i think most gained value as they became scarce
  2564. [5/27/2014 1:49:53 PM] Barwizi: ie if they do not have absurd PoS rates
  2565. [5/27/2014 1:50:04 PM] Koontas: (and do not respond with "NRS is not a coin")
  2566. [5/27/2014 1:51:02 PM] Barwizi: ha lol
  2567. [5/27/2014 1:52:03 PM] Koontas: Okay, really haven't been following others so much lately...
  2568. [5/27/2014 1:53:53 PM] Barwizi: coins are destroyed through tx fees at a very high rate on this chain, in half a year i suspect people will complain about tx fees if we end PoW now, which is good because if we reduce the # but push for more value per unit through DAS and DACs then we have a high possibility of making it big
  2569. [5/27/2014 7:45:51 PM] Pocket: some Chinese promoters contacted me, saying they are interested in promoting NRS
  2570. [5/27/2014 7:46:51 PM] Pocket: standard QQ chat, some giveaways, votes on mintpal, Chinese versions of our site and texts, etc
  2571. [5/27/2014 7:47:04 PM] Pocket: get us onto ecf
  2572. [5/27/2014 7:48:23 PM] Pocket: they are promoting vtc, redd
  2573. [5/27/2014 8:01:39 PM] Pocket: lotto
  2574. [5/27/2014 8:01:42 PM] Pocket: win
  2575. [5/27/2014 8:01:50 PM] Pocket: they think NRS is very special because it's different from "coins" lol
  2576. [5/27/2014 8:02:15 PM] Koontas: how much do they want?
  2577. [5/27/2014 8:02:52 PM] Pocket: talking right now, they have a list of things they do, will put into a document for review shortly
  2578. [5/27/2014 8:03:05 PM] Pocket: apparently we need a Chinese wallet
  2579. [5/27/2014 8:03:06 PM] Pocket: lol
  2580. [5/27/2014 8:03:17 PM] Koontas: hm oook
  2581. [5/27/2014 8:18:03 PM] Pocket: they say they are real bullish on NRS
  2582. [5/27/2014 8:18:10 PM] Pocket: so they don't want too much NRS to start
  2583. [5/27/2014 8:35:29 PM] Pocket: 2000 NRS for a Chinese site, giveaways to Chinese community, mintpal votes, qq channel and moderation, several Chinese blog and social media outreaches, etc
  2584. [5/27/2014 8:37:07 PM] argakiig: ummm
  2585. [5/27/2014 8:37:11 PM] argakiig: wow
  2586. [5/27/2014 8:37:18 PM] Pocket: Chinese forums
  2587. [5/27/2014 8:37:22 PM] Pocket: and addition to ecoin fund
  2588. [5/27/2014 8:37:47 PM] Pocket: I want to tell him start at like 200 nrs
  2589. [5/27/2014 8:37:59 PM] argakiig: you do realize thats close to .8-1bitcoin
  2590. [5/27/2014 8:38:02 PM] argakiig: a bit steep
  2591. [5/27/2014 8:38:35 PM] Pocket: yeah to start its a bit high
  2592. [5/27/2014 8:42:00 PM] Pocket: oh...their QQ group can reach thousands of ppl in the same chat room.. so they give away even .5 NRS at a time, still thousand
  2593. [5/27/2014 8:42:02 PM] Pocket: LOL
  2594. [5/27/2014 8:44:41 PM] Pocket: ok they want 500 NRS as a starter
  2595. [5/27/2014 8:44:44 PM] Pocket: they will send results
  2596. [5/27/2014 8:44:47 PM] Pocket: and then we can reevaluate
  2597. [5/27/2014 8:44:51 PM] Pocket: 500 NRS gamble on china
  2598. [5/27/2014 8:55:11 PM] Pocket: yay nay
  2599. [5/27/2014 11:51:19 PM] Barwizi: ok
  2600. [5/27/2014 11:51:43 PM] Barwizi: i thought the wallet supports Chinese
  2601. [5/28/2014 10:32:05 AM] Koontas: can we remove "Stocks" from our bitcointalk thread...
  2602. [5/28/2014 10:32:10 AM] Koontas: we have nothing to do with stocks...
  2603. [5/28/2014 10:35:24 AM] Pocket: yeah but it's the closest comparison we have
  2604. [5/28/2014 10:35:36 AM] Pocket: i'll try to think of another way to describe it
  2605. [5/28/2014 11:08:47 AM] Pocket: need 5 NRS for 9WNaWbwAdfq5EYvXNtSVWgQJUtCxXqDCFX bitcoinmafia
  2606. [5/28/2014 1:05:13 PM] Pocket: looks like we're ending PoW early.. http://tricider.com/brainstorming/1bVSg
  2607. [5/28/2014 1:37:17 PM] Barwizi: SOURCES=db/builder.cc db/c.cc db/dbformat.cc db/db_impl.cc db/db_iter.cc db/filename.cc db/log_reader.cc db/log_writer.cc db/memtable.cc db/repair.cc db/table_cache.cc db/version_edit.cc db/version_set.cc db/write_batch.cc table/block_builder.cc table/block.cc table/filter_block.cc table/format.cc table/iterator.cc table/merger.cc table/table_builder.cc table/table.cc table/two_level_iterator.cc util/arena.cc util/bloom.cc util/cache.cc util/coding.cc util/comparator.cc util/crc32c.cc util/env.cc util/env_posix.cc util/env_win.cc util/filter_policy.cc util/hash.cc util/histogram.cc util/logging.cc util/options.cc util/status.cc port/port_posix.cc
  2608. MEMENV_SOURCES=helpers/memenv/memenv.cc
  2609. CC=cc
  2610. CXX=g++
  2611. PLATFORM=OS_LINUX
  2612. PLATFORM_LDFLAGS=-pthread
  2613. PLATFORM_LIBS=
  2614. PLATFORM_CCFLAGS= -fno-builtin-memcmp -pthread -DOS_LINUX -DLEVELDB_PLATFORM_POSIX
  2615. PLATFORM_CXXFLAGS= -fno-builtin-memcmp -pthread -DOS_LINUX -DLEVELDB_PLATFORM_POSIX
  2616. PLATFORM_SHARED_CFLAGS=-fPIC
  2617. PLATFORM_SHARED_EXT=so
  2618. PLATFORM_SHARED_LDFLAGS=-shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,
  2619. PLATFORM_SHARED_VERSIONED=true
  2620. [5/28/2014 1:38:27 PM] Pocket: coolstorybro
  2621. [5/28/2014 4:29:39 PM] Koontas: Just an FYI I'll be out of town tonight through Monday so I won't be around much at all this weekend.
  2622. [5/28/2014 6:45:57 PM] Koontas: Barwizi, are you already working on the necessary updates to cut off PoW? Looks like that will pass.
  2623. [5/28/2014 6:47:22 PM] Barwizi: we'll do those mods when we have cleared the new codebase, currently tryna upload a copy so arg can take a look
  2624. [5/28/2014 6:47:33 PM] Koontas: (y)
  2625. [5/28/2014 7:02:33 PM] Koontas: I had a technical writer reach out today offering to help if needed.
  2626. [5/30/2014 12:31:09 PM] Pocket: any updates barwizi
  2627. [5/30/2014 12:31:28 PM] Pocket: what do i tell fearful shareholders
  2628. [5/30/2014 12:31:46 PM] Pocket: i've been giving general comfort lol
  2629. [5/30/2014 12:51:27 PM] Logan: I could also use a general update from everyone.
  2630. [6/1/2014 7:32:21 PM] Barwizi: (y)
  2631. [6/1/2014 7:32:50 PM] Barwizi: maybe i'm a dick CEO
  2632. [6/1/2014 7:33:04 PM] Barwizi: but rather than kiss ass
  2633. [6/1/2014 7:33:48 PM] Barwizi: i have been trying to perfect my codebase port
  2634. [6/1/2014 7:34:03 PM] Barwizi: so excuse while i dircet and develop
  2635. [6/1/2014 7:34:19 PM] Barwizi: i'm usually touchy
  2636. [6/1/2014 7:34:26 PM] Barwizi: but fuck
  2637. [6/1/2014 7:34:53 PM] Barwizi: the fuck do i need to deal with faithless people fpr
  2638. [6/1/2014 7:35:22 PM] Barwizi: i make some a CDO, stand up for them, but they leave the group for their fridge
  2639. [6/1/2014 7:35:50 PM] Barwizi: then remoce and try to distance themselves from us
  2640. [6/1/2014 7:36:16 PM] Barwizi: and even ask us to help their quitter attitude?
  2641. [6/1/2014 7:37:52 PM] Barwizi: i'm here half drunk and trying to install the second set of power supplies, bought out of pocket and someone is asking me
  2642. [6/1/2014 7:37:55 PM] Barwizi: [Sunday, June 01, 2014 1:27 AM] cass:
  2643.  
  2644. <<< Hi Barwizi… Could you pls delete me from the NRS BTCT ANN Thread. I'm not longer available. This would be great. thx c
  2645. [6/1/2014 7:38:55 PM] Logan: Yeah, I asked Pocket to do that.
  2646. [6/1/2014 7:39:08 PM] Barwizi: sorrry guys if we aint paying, but how about we do something worth it that has % for everyone?
  2647. [6/1/2014 7:39:24 PM] Barwizi: and rather than bitching, i am doing it alone
  2648. [6/1/2014 7:39:38 PM] Logan: if we ain't paying? What do you mean?
  2649. [6/1/2014 7:40:20 PM] Barwizi: he told me he wanted to be paid, and i told him, we can do that at the peril of the group as a whole
  2650. [6/1/2014 7:40:47 PM] Barwizi: because we are yet to be prfitable
  2651. [6/1/2014 7:40:51 PM] Logan: oh geez, is that why he left?
  2652. [6/1/2014 7:41:04 PM] Barwizi: yes
  2653. [6/1/2014 7:41:23 PM] Logan: wtf, the group voted for a three month payment schedule
  2654. [6/1/2014 7:41:29 PM] Logan: i.e. We would pay at the end of June
  2655. [6/1/2014 7:41:42 PM] Logan: That was the whole arrangement from the get go
  2656. [6/1/2014 7:41:47 PM] Logan: He didn't even discuss it with me
  2657. [6/1/2014 7:42:24 PM] Barwizi: that what has me wondering, i am even here, trying to mix time with my baby, time to drink, time to code and time to find a new job
  2658. [6/1/2014 7:42:36 PM] Barwizi: i dont put it out
  2659. [6/1/2014 7:43:17 PM] Barwizi: only you Logan knew half of what i was juggling
  2660. [6/1/2014 7:44:05 PM] Barwizi: Fuck that, now i want to perfect my code port then the QT, so i can push the NG success faster
  2661. [6/1/2014 7:44:22 PM] Barwizi: last shit i need is these jump skirts
  2662. [6/1/2014 7:44:50 PM] Logan: Well it is disappointing that if he had just talked to me about it then I could have set the record straight and he would still be around.
  2663. [6/1/2014 7:44:58 PM] Barwizi: it's not easy for anyone, but reslience has made the biggest names in the world
  2664. [6/1/2014 7:45:48 PM] Barwizi: we all have problems, and leaving the group is fine, but if you start trying to distance yourself
  2665. [6/1/2014 7:46:08 PM] Barwizi: it is an insult to what we have achieved and will achieve
  2666. [6/1/2014 7:46:53 PM] Pocket: Resilience (y)
  2667. [6/1/2014 7:48:02 PM] Barwizi: 36 hours, and i ported NRS to the silkcoin wallet, it connects but i still have a few more additions, then i'll dela with QT.
  2668. [6/1/2014 7:49:06 PM] Barwizi: i did it at home, no need for someone to tell me what to do, coz noone among the GF invested for monetary profit alone
  2669. [6/1/2014 7:49:52 PM] Barwizi: people showed trust in my ability to DO, and i Built a team of DOERS
  2670. [6/1/2014 7:51:10 PM] Barwizi: and it's really tough to swallow that someone will work with us, then not only leave us, but later try to "not" be part of what we have done
  2671. [6/1/2014 7:51:34 PM] Barwizi: anywae,
  2672. [6/1/2014 7:51:52 PM] Barwizi: i'll try upload a new QT so you guys can try it later
  2673. [6/1/2014 7:52:53 PM] Barwizi: it's 5 am, so if i miss a line..i'll wor on it soon
  2674. [6/1/2014 9:47:32 PM] argakiig: well im back from camping
  2675. [6/1/2014 9:47:38 PM] argakiig: it was a fun weekend lemme tell you
  2676. [6/1/2014 10:00:25 PM] Logan: My wife detests camping, I never get to go
  2677. [6/1/2014 10:00:48 PM] argakiig: it was so fun
  2678. [6/1/2014 10:00:51 PM] argakiig: i havent gone in years
  2679. [6/2/2014 12:30:12 AM] Barwizi: now u r jus being evil
  2680. [6/2/2014 1:04:19 AM] Pocket: I had a rough breakup with my girl this weekend, ex now I guess can't call her mine anymore. . May be sad for a little bit but will return to normal function shortly
  2681. [6/2/2014 4:24:40 PM] Logan: Those suck but you will bounce back. Just keep busy.
  2682. [6/2/2014 4:25:05 PM] Pocket: yup
  2683. [6/2/2014 4:25:22 PM] Pocket: gonna be making some presentations at the local chambers of commerce about crypto
  2684. [6/2/2014 4:25:31 PM] Pocket: hopefully my public speaking skills will get me some fans
  2685. [6/2/2014 4:25:38 PM] Logan: We need to give some sort of timeline and specifications of our next project. The natives are getting restless.
  2686. [6/2/2014 4:25:52 PM] Logan: Nice, great opportunity
  2687. [6/2/2014 4:26:20 PM] Pocket: purely education for the community to be prepared for crypto
  2688. [6/2/2014 4:26:44 PM] Pocket: and not get burnt
  2689. [6/2/2014 4:30:45 PM] Logan: It is a low risk speaking engagement on a subject that you are extremely strong with. You should do as many of those as possible as it will build up your skill set
  2690. [6/2/2014 4:31:23 PM] Pocket: later on as i develop relationships i plan to have deeper level seminars talking about advanced topics
  2691. [6/2/2014 4:31:55 PM] Logan: It is surprisingly valuable. I have trouble finding junior staff who can present
  2692. [6/2/2014 4:32:51 PM] Pocket: but right now there are so many people who want to get involved but don't know anything about crypto and will no doubt get burnt that i feel somewhat responsible to educate them to protect them at least a little
  2693. [6/2/2014 4:34:03 PM] Pocket: i'm not gonna sell them on any cryptos or convince them bitcoin is good or anything, i just want them to be informed and make an educated decision because like it or not, bitcoin is now part of our world
  2694. [6/2/2014 4:34:08 PM] Logan: That too, I suppose
  2695. [6/2/2014 7:36:14 PM] Koontas: Well gents, I'm back.
  2696. [6/2/2014 7:36:26 PM] Logan: Welcome back, how did it go?
  2697. [6/2/2014 7:36:52 PM] Koontas: It was pretty awesome man. Lake Tahoe is BEAUTIFUL.
  2698. [6/2/2014 7:37:11 PM] Logan: You have literally done more work than I have in my entire life
  2699. [6/2/2014 7:41:14 PM] Koontas: haha
  2700. [6/2/2014 7:41:32 PM] Koontas: It was, by far, the most challenging thing I have ever done in my life.
  2701. [6/2/2014 7:41:35 PM] Koontas: No doubt about that.
  2702. [6/2/2014 10:13:49 PM] Koontas: what is this? "MinterBankBot – DAS that stakes for you, taking the head(ache) out of (stake)! Deposit to the minterbot and watch your balance grow!"
  2703. [6/2/2014 10:13:54 PM] Koontas: Listed: http://www.coinssource.com/crypto-coins/noirshares/
  2704. [6/2/2014 10:16:07 PM] Logan: Just an idea I had. Basically instead of running a wallet, you could just deposit it with minterbot and it would do the POS for you and just take a percentage.
  2705. [6/2/2014 10:16:53 PM] Koontas: aaah ok
  2706. [6/2/2014 10:16:58 PM] Koontas: interesting (y)
  2707. [6/2/2014 10:17:17 PM] Logan: I posted it on noirbitstalk a while back, it is by no means an official project.
  2708. [6/3/2014 1:05:47 AM] Pocket: Very interesting chat with my incoming housemates
  2709. [6/3/2014 1:06:06 AM] Pocket: Just asking them about btc and doge meme and stuff
  2710. [6/3/2014 1:06:13 AM] Pocket: How much they know etc
  2711. [6/3/2014 1:06:22 AM] Pocket: They're I their early 20s
  2712. [6/3/2014 1:06:37 AM] Pocket: We have a long way to go hehe
  2713. [6/3/2014 1:06:58 AM] Pocket: Btc came and kinda went for us, but the rest of the world barely is waking up to it
  2714. [6/3/2014 11:36:45 AM] Koontas: So where have the miners been for the past 5 days?
  2715. [6/3/2014 11:42:08 AM] argakiig: looks like on and off at eligius
  2716. [6/3/2014 11:42:18 AM] Koontas: mostly off.
  2717. [6/3/2014 11:42:43 AM] Koontas: Fucking NRB...
  2718. [6/3/2014 11:42:52 AM] Koontas: oy vey...we should have just let it die and never said a word about it
  2719. [6/3/2014 11:44:12 AM] Koontas: What we need is a REAL development timeline that we can publish.
  2720. [6/3/2014 11:44:14 AM] Koontas: That's what people want.
  2721. [6/3/2014 11:44:29 AM] Koontas: We keep dropping hints and talking about multiple projects but giving them nothing firm.
  2722. [6/3/2014 12:04:23 PM] Koontas: I want a development plan with dates by Friday. This is a serious, serious cluster fuck right now and people have NO CLUE what we're doing.
  2723. [6/3/2014 12:04:37 PM] Koontas: Pocket, we're overcommunicating about bullshit.
  2724. [6/3/2014 12:04:43 PM] Koontas: Shit that may never ever ever come to fruition.
  2725. [6/3/2014 12:05:05 PM] Koontas: Barwizi said a while ago NoirEx was being nixed but it's still in the OP and no information ever relayed...
  2726. [6/3/2014 12:07:28 PM] Barwizi: around, trying my new connection
  2727. [6/3/2014 12:08:19 PM] Koontas: Bar, we gotta try to get a development calendar out... Godzirra is NOT joking around about bringing whales in, but, he's catching a lot of bullshit chatter in the other room.
  2728. [6/3/2014 12:08:56 PM] Koontas: We need to committ to 1-2 significant updates and give them solid dates and a solid plan for what we're doing.
  2729. [6/3/2014 12:09:14 PM] Koontas: Bar, we need one of your old school posts like you made in the NRB thread about the future. That will go a long ways for us.
  2730. [6/3/2014 12:10:03 PM] Barwizi: in the chat or the thread?
  2731. [6/3/2014 12:10:13 PM] Pocket: Koontas you're right, I've just been communicating fluff because I don't have much to go off of
  2732. [6/3/2014 12:10:18 PM] Koontas: Bitcointalk thread.
  2733. [6/3/2014 12:24:29 PM] Logan: I agree with Koontas
  2734. [6/3/2014 12:25:34 PM] Logan: On NRB, we have already said we are doing a relaunch as recently as May, we can't kill it now.
  2735. [6/3/2014 12:46:47 PM] Koontas: Alright, let's do our best to avoid "fluff" in the future... People take what we say very, very literally.
  2736. [6/3/2014 12:46:59 PM] Koontas: We need to only speak with facts.
  2737. [6/3/2014 1:42:48 PM] Pocket: any thoughts on blockchain maintenance, when the thing just gets too big how we can trim or archive or remove old blocks
  2738. [6/3/2014 1:43:09 PM] Pocket: maybe put a date id and force people to move every couple years or something
  2739. [6/3/2014 1:43:22 PM] Pocket: and then old ID empty blocks get deleted
  2740. [6/3/2014 1:43:38 PM] Pocket: or something
  2741. [6/3/2014 1:43:53 PM] Pocket: even possibly destroying old blocks that have coins in them still
  2742. [6/3/2014 1:44:06 PM] Pocket: for inactivity
  2743. [6/3/2014 2:56:55 PM] Koontas: FYI - READ THIS: http://gigaom.com/2014/06/03/sec-charges-owner-of-bitcoin-sites-for-selling-unregistered-securities/
  2744. [6/3/2014 3:01:20 PM] Logan: Damn
  2745. [6/4/2014 9:47:54 AM] Koontas: I think we should sell the 5th/s of miners.
  2746. [6/4/2014 10:07:26 AM] Koontas: Do we have NRS addresses for all GF holders?
  2747. [6/4/2014 10:09:40 AM] Pocket: yes except one or two
  2748. [6/4/2014 10:10:15 AM] Koontas: Do we have them in a spreadsheet with percentages so I can send out the 749 NRS I have to be distributed?
  2749. [6/4/2014 10:10:18 AM] Koontas: I can do it manually...
  2750. [6/4/2014 10:10:53 AM] Koontas: Also, we really fucked this one up...people are going to laugh when they get 10 NRS as a payment...
  2751. [6/4/2014 10:11:23 AM] Pocket: yikes
  2752. [6/4/2014 10:11:35 AM] Koontas: Yea, well the miners have not been doing shit for at least a week...
  2753. [6/4/2014 10:11:47 AM] Koontas: http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1Nf7PswAM87DWXfRLWxVVTjb8BYK3qfQuS
  2754. [6/4/2014 10:11:52 AM] Pocket: i only have the NRS addresses, they're not attached to %s
  2755. [6/4/2014 10:11:59 AM] Pocket: i will try to add today
  2756. [6/4/2014 10:12:08 AM] Koontas: logan may have it
  2757. [6/4/2014 10:12:16 AM] Pocket: yeah his spreadsheet has the %s but no addresses
  2758. [6/4/2014 10:12:25 AM] Koontas: ah ok
  2759. [6/4/2014 10:12:29 AM] Pocket: dunno if it's better to add %s to the one i made, or addresses to the one he made
  2760. [6/4/2014 10:13:01 AM] Pocket: ...i assume better to add my info to his spreadsheet, emails and addresses, since his has formulas
  2761. [6/4/2014 10:13:13 AM] Pocket: yeah thats better, i'll give him the info
  2762. [6/4/2014 11:46:18 AM] Koontas: I want you all to know that I have decided to leave NoirGroup due to lack of commitment to any projects and lack of organization. I have tried my hardest to get this team organized, however, you can see from the issues we have had with the mining and even getting a simple wallet update out that things are not going as they should. I had a great time working with all of you on this and wish you the best of luck.
  2763. [6/4/2014 12:16:21 PM] Koontas: Alright guys, Bar and I have had a lengthy conversation and are reaching resolution on some of the issues I have expressed previously causing me to want to leave the group.
  2764. [6/4/2014 12:18:15 PM] Koontas: First of all, regarding the miners. They have been moved and will be pointed to ghash.io once they are up and running. ghash.io provides immediate payout, unlinke Eligius and will allow us to easier split the funds between NG holdings and GF payouts. 50% of all mined BTC will be distributed to GF holders as NRS. This will go a LONG way with the GF holders, will show that we keep our word and will give them something to brag about while helping the NRS price.
  2765. [6/4/2014 12:22:40 PM] Koontas: Second, regarding the development efforts. Barwizi has provided me with a rough timeline for the updates he has proposed yesterday which I will share in here shortly. We DO still need some help on the Qt side of things...this is going to have to be a group effort to help find someone who can give us a hand.
  2766. [6/4/2014 12:26:43 PM] Koontas: And lastly, regarding the groups financials. For now, 100% of our income is coming from the mining operation. Taking 50% of the mining profits and holding for future dev efforts, etc. should aleviate some of the concerns and we will provide a new, public address showing how much is in our account and we can provide an output of our expenses. We will need to determine how much, if any, NRS is available to the group to use for dev efforts. The financials are a huge concern of mine, only because this is how people judge the health of the group. We MUST ensure we're being 100% transparent moving forward and I will do what I can do assist Logan to ensure he gets what he needs.
  2767. [6/4/2014 12:29:26 PM] Koontas: I NEVER wanted to leave the group and this was not intended to be a threat in order to gain traction on these issues, however, I'm glad we're on a path to resolving them. With that being said, I'm going to give this another shot and find it in myself to give everyone a little more credit and have a little more faith than I have been lately. We REALLY need to build this team up a little more and having access to the BTC/NRS from the mining will help us in that area as well. We all realize nobody wants to work for free so we need to find a way to get some work done that can help us bring in some more income.
  2768. [6/4/2014 12:29:56 PM] Pocket: there's a 250k premine i've been telling people is gonna be used for dev and promotions and stuff, not sure if that's what the premine is actually for, but it's not a small premine
  2769. [6/4/2014 12:30:16 PM] Pocket: and none of the gen fund or board is able to really access it
  2770. [6/4/2014 12:38:20 PM] Pocket: ok barwizi gonna give premine report once new wallet is released since it will allow export functions of expenses
  2771. [6/4/2014 12:38:35 PM] Pocket: since much of it went to early dev costs
  2772. [6/4/2014 12:39:35 PM] Barwizi: oh well
  2773. [6/4/2014 12:40:12 PM] Barwizi: just wanna point out that while my dwnlink is 1 mbps...my uplink stubbornly refuses to pass 20 kbps
  2774. [6/4/2014 12:40:41 PM] Barwizi: so, yeah, it's gonna take a whiel for the pre-alpha of the new wallet to make it
  2775. [6/4/2014 12:41:18 PM] Pocket: put it on a cd and mail it to us :P
  2776. [6/4/2014 12:42:44 PM] Barwizi: you'd probably get it faster that way
  2777. [6/4/2014 12:52:34 PM] Pocket: how about "stackchain"
  2778. [6/4/2014 12:52:45 PM] Pocket: for the new thing
  2779. [6/4/2014 12:53:26 PM] Pocket: as a name
  2780. [6/4/2014 12:53:51 PM] Pocket: it's like a stack of blocks that move together
  2781. [6/4/2014 12:54:24 PM] Barwizi: lets get it to work first
  2782. [6/4/2014 3:16:02 PM] Koontas: Here is the information for ghash.io:
  2783. stratum+tcp://uk1.ghash.io:3333 OR stratum+tcp://us1.ghash.io:3333
  2784. [6/4/2014 3:16:42 PM] Koontas: Worker = NoirMin.(workerID) ex. NoirMin.1, NoirMin.2, etc.
  2785. [6/4/2014 3:16:51 PM] Koontas: Password = anything
  2786. [6/4/2014 3:17:32 PM] Koontas: I will be able to set up the account so it automatically pays 50% to two different addresses.
  2787. [6/4/2014 3:17:48 PM] Koontas: Again, 50% to NG savings, 50% to buy NRS to pay GF holders
  2788. [6/4/2014 7:01:22 PM] Barwizi: Assuming a cryptographically secure hashing function Hash(x) and a Sequental-
  2789. Memory-Hard hashing function BirthdayHash(x) such as scrypt the algorithm for this
  2790.  
  2791. proof of work can be defined as follows:
  2792.  
  2793. Given a block of data D, calculate H = Hash(d).
  2794.  
  2795. Find nonce A and nonce B such that BirthdayHash(A +H) == BirthdayHash( B+H)
  2796.  
  2797. If Hash(H + A + B) < TargetDifficulty then a result has been found, otherwise keep
  2798.  
  2799. searching.
  2800. [6/4/2014 7:01:41 PM] Barwizi: those are the basics of Momentum
  2801. [6/4/2014 7:02:08 PM] Barwizi: what i want to do is add an extra variable C
  2802. [6/4/2014 7:05:10 PM] Barwizi: and make it so that BirthdayHash (a+h) == BirthdayHash(b+h) Hash(h+a+b) <Targ diff solves a block that awards NRS while BirthdayHash (a+h) == BirthdayHash (c+h) Hash(h+a+c) <Targ diff solves a block that awards NRB
  2803. [6/4/2014 7:06:27 PM] Barwizi: if we can get this to work, then additionally, i would like to have a hash(a+b+c+h) < Targ difficulty, and this awards the Noir Lotto rewards,
  2804. [6/4/2014 7:07:48 PM] Barwizi: if successful, the wallet will be simply called the Noir Wallet since it will contain all Noir products, namely NRB, NRS and the new Noir Lotto
  2805. [6/4/2014 7:20:29 PM] Barwizi: Arg and I will be sharing the CDO position for a while until we find a developer that sticks
  2806. [6/4/2014 7:21:14 PM] Koontas: I've got my eyes out...
  2807. [6/4/2014 7:24:40 PM] Barwizi: i understand that many investors are worried about slow progress, but my ideas take time because i always wach the landscape and how everyone else is faring
  2808. [6/4/2014 7:26:01 PM] Barwizi: if you look at chancecoin, and the aborted version from Freetrade working under Bitshares, you'll see that gambling is not receiving the positive response people expected, more like devs expected
  2809. [6/4/2014 7:26:04 PM] Koontas: I know it's tough, but we need to find a way to squeeze in little updates while working on these projects that take months.
  2810. [6/4/2014 7:27:47 PM] Barwizi: i think this is because they are causing too much diversion and split of resources, in a way they are following the same path as scrypt kiddies in that everything new they have done has divided resources and required more setup time, confusion fro the average user and even more technical mumbo jumbo
  2811. [6/4/2014 7:28:45 PM] Barwizi: most people dont like having tojump on every new coin in order to pull a profit, on the off-chance that it will get listed
  2812. [6/4/2014 7:29:28 PM] Barwizi: so, i came up with this plan to kill a whole flock of birds with one stone, while at the same time making serious technical advancements
  2813. [6/4/2014 7:30:00 PM] Barwizi: lol, and producing the first 3.0 chain with such high level integration
  2814. [6/4/2014 7:30:54 PM] Barwizi: all our plans for NoirSpace can be implemented in the new codebase thereby ensuring we have a one size fits all solution
  2815. [6/4/2014 7:31:38 PM] Barwizi: the only drawback i have thus noticed would be how to move to a mobile platform, hopefully, we'll have a dev to advise us on how to get there
  2816. [6/5/2014 12:01:47 AM] Pocket: Bar, this means easier multi wallet yeah? Especially if the coins are forked to Noir chain
  2817. [6/5/2014 12:02:15 AM] Pocket: To ride on it
  2818. [6/5/2014 12:24:11 AM] Barwizi: yes..."riding" , you like riding huh?
  2819. [6/5/2014 12:25:14 AM] Pocket: Just trying to get descriptive with the naming and description :)
  2820. [6/5/2014 12:26:28 AM] Barwizi: lol
  2821. [6/5/2014 12:26:45 AM] Barwizi: i'm off to work , arg and i are collaborating on the code
  2822. [6/5/2014 9:30:31 AM] Koontas: [6/4/14, 3:16:02 PM] Koontas: Here is the information for ghash.io:
  2823. stratum+tcp://uk1.ghash.io:3333 OR stratum+tcp://us1.ghash.io:3333
  2824. [6/4/14, 3:16:42 PM] Koontas: Worker = NoirMin.(workerID) ex. NoirMin.1, NoirMin.2, etc.
  2825. [6/4/14, 3:16:51 PM] Koontas: Password = anything
  2826. [6/5/2014 10:40:53 AM] argakiig: just a heads, im going to be in and out for most of today, and the rest of the week during 1-8 or so moving the inlaws
  2827. [6/5/2014 10:43:00 AM] argakiig: I vote we start a NG investors room on skype
  2828. [6/5/2014 10:43:08 AM] argakiig: rather than have the thinktank
  2829. [6/5/2014 10:43:16 AM] argakiig: maybe rename it to the investors
  2830. [6/5/2014 10:45:03 AM] Koontas: That's a good idea.
  2831. [6/5/2014 10:45:35 AM] argakiig: that way we have a place the people godzirra gets in to goto
  2832. [6/5/2014 11:04:05 AM] Pocket: good idea
  2833. [6/5/2014 11:04:24 AM] Pocket: are we keeping the think tank
  2834. [6/5/2014 11:04:30 AM] Pocket: i think everyone in there is in the GF
  2835. [6/5/2014 11:04:40 AM] Pocket: except a few
  2836. [6/5/2014 11:14:30 AM] Koontas: If/when we need help I have found someone...he offered to take over VOOT in their thread so I hit him up...
  2837. [6/5/2014 11:17:12 AM] Barwizi: miners should be on ghash
  2838. [6/5/2014 11:17:17 AM] Barwizi: now
  2839. [6/5/2014 11:18:34 AM] Pocket: koontas: new voot dev for our QT?
  2840. [6/5/2014 11:22:39 AM] Koontas: indeed.
  2841. [6/5/2014 12:03:40 PM] Koontas: You can see the stats on Ghash.io by logging in using the following:
  2842. User = NoirMin
  2843. PW = noirftw1
  2844. [6/5/2014 12:05:03 PM] Koontas: I've updated the minumum difficulty to 1024 which is standard for 1th/s
  2845. [6/5/2014 12:23:36 PM] argakiig: I will make a stats page here before too long
  2846. [6/5/2014 12:23:45 PM] argakiig: so others can view it without logging in
  2847. [6/5/2014 2:30:37 PM] Koontas: Pocket, if nobody objects, you can announce that the first payout will be Sunday.
  2848. [6/5/2014 2:47:02 PM] Pocket: objection deadline friday 5pm PST
  2849. [6/5/2014 7:36:15 PM] Pocket: What do you guys think about me talking about nrs at our local chambers of commerce
  2850. [6/5/2014 7:36:54 PM] Pocket: I'm doing seminars on crypto in general and digital assets into the future beyond bitcoin, but also talking about bitcoin, I think nrs is way too advanced for most people though
  2851. [6/5/2014 7:37:03 PM] Pocket: I'm trying to pull baby boomers as my audience
  2852. [6/5/2014 7:37:28 PM] Pocket: Cuz they got the money lol
  2853. [6/5/2014 7:40:50 PM] Pocket: Mainly trying to keep them informed and educated so they can get involved in crypto without being assraped and hopefully have a positive opinion of crypto in general because of me
  2854. [6/5/2014 8:17:25 PM] Pocket: david parker at cryptocoinsnews.com just emailed me regarding an available banner ad spot, got 800 clicks and 400k impressions over the last 30 days, they want $2750 USD for a month
  2855. [6/5/2014 8:17:35 PM] Pocket: damn
  2856. [6/5/2014 8:17:48 PM] Pocket: inflated
  2857. [6/5/2014 9:00:22 PM] argakiig: so really simple http://nrs.argakiig.us/miner/
  2858. [6/5/2014 9:00:25 PM] argakiig: work in progress
  2859. [6/5/2014 9:00:44 PM] argakiig: but simple text based framework people can use to check miner stats
  2860. [6/5/2014 9:22:37 PM] argakiig: question do we have a Noir Group Emblem?
  2861. [6/5/2014 9:22:43 PM] argakiig: or just use the NoirShares one?
  2862. [6/5/2014 9:23:25 PM] argakiig: NVM using the crossed N
  2863. [6/5/2014 9:23:29 PM] Pocket: there's one made by cass, but I think we should make all new logos
  2864. [6/5/2014 9:25:29 PM] Logan: Pocket, feel free. I think we are fine with it.
  2865. [6/5/2014 9:25:43 PM] Logan: The logos are fine.
  2866. [6/5/2014 9:25:45 PM] Pocket: cool
  2867. [6/5/2014 9:25:49 PM] Pocket: yeah we can do with or without
  2868. [6/5/2014 9:25:54 PM] argakiig: http://nrs.argakiig.us/miner/
  2869. [6/5/2014 9:25:55 PM] argakiig: thoughts?
  2870. [6/5/2014 9:26:24 PM] argakiig: dont broadcast it right now
  2871. [6/5/2014 9:26:43 PM] argakiig: what that is doing is callling the API every time the page is loaded
  2872. [6/5/2014 9:27:05 PM] argakiig: i will be taking polling samples every min shortly
  2873. [6/5/2014 11:06:52 PM] Barwizi: yawn
  2874. [6/5/2014 11:06:59 PM] Barwizi: i'm late for work
  2875. [6/5/2014 11:07:06 PM] Barwizi: but i dont want to get out of bed
  2876. [6/5/2014 11:07:40 PM] Koontas: welcome to my life
  2877. [6/5/2014 11:08:33 PM] Koontas: I can't wait to show you guys what I work on at my job!
  2878. [6/5/2014 11:08:51 PM] Koontas: Unfortunately you'll have to wait til mid-2015
  2879. [6/5/2014 11:09:47 PM] Barwizi: well, you'll have to wait until you have a national disaster of epic proportions to see me on your shores, unless i get the new job i am vying for
  2880. [6/5/2014 11:10:05 PM] Koontas: well Bar, I'd hope to see you under different conditions
  2881. [6/5/2014 11:10:32 PM] Barwizi: how about that, me in the USA for work, with diplomatic advantages
  2882. [6/5/2014 11:10:58 PM] Koontas: oh boy
  2883. [6/5/2014 11:11:02 PM] Barwizi: that would put all the officers in the same country
  2884. [6/5/2014 11:11:10 PM] Barwizi: risky
  2885. [6/5/2014 11:11:12 PM] Koontas: nope
  2886. [6/5/2014 11:11:15 PM] Koontas: logan is in Canada
  2887. [6/5/2014 11:11:33 PM] Barwizi: oh yeah
  2888. [6/5/2014 11:11:56 PM] argakiig: same continient
  2889. [6/5/2014 11:12:04 PM] argakiig: spelling i know :/
  2890. [6/5/2014 11:12:59 PM] Logan: Blame Canada
  2891. [6/5/2014 11:13:10 PM] argakiig: ok
  2892. [6/5/2014 11:13:43 PM] Barwizi: well, if i get off work early i can look at some items
  2893. [6/5/2014 11:13:47 PM] Barwizi: of intrest
  2894. [6/5/2014 11:18:15 PM] Koontas: Blame Canada!
  2895. [6/5/2014 11:18:20 PM] Koontas: Logan, you like South Park?
  2896. [6/5/2014 11:18:32 PM] Logan: of course
  2897. [6/5/2014 11:18:41 PM] Koontas: Nice!
  2898. [6/5/2014 11:18:52 PM] Barwizi: lol, just got a call from my boss, gotta freshen up and go
  2899. [6/5/2014 11:19:04 PM] Koontas: I've seen every South Park and have watched 99% when aired on Wednesday nights.
  2900. [6/5/2014 11:19:06 PM] Barwizi: says he "needs" me
  2901. [6/5/2014 11:19:20 PM] Koontas: have a good day at the job Bar!
  2902. [6/5/2014 11:19:22 PM] Barwizi: the pay should reflect his "need"
  2903. [6/5/2014 11:19:26 PM] Barwizi: thanks
  2904. [6/5/2014 11:19:30 PM] Koontas: haha agreed
  2905. [6/5/2014 11:22:53 PM] Logan: Koontas - South Park is a show of our generation. It is like Bevis & Butthead in terms of timeliness.
  2906. [6/5/2014 11:24:26 PM] argakiig: http://nrs.argakiig.us/miner/
  2907. [6/5/2014 11:24:41 PM | Edited 11:24:45 PM] argakiig: we now have a stats page for our miners
  2908. [6/5/2014 11:24:53 PM] argakiig: its publishable wherever
  2909. [6/5/2014 11:25:02 PM] argakiig: and updates every minute
  2910. [6/5/2014 11:25:02 PM] Koontas: Yea man it is. I used to have my friends over to my parents house every Wednesday and we'd go in the basement, get stoned and watch south park.
  2911. [6/5/2014 11:25:15 PM] Koontas: Nice work Arg!
  2912. [6/5/2014 11:25:41 PM] Pocket: if I wanted to learn to code for the group, what should I learn
  2913. [6/5/2014 11:25:43 PM] Logan: Imagination land? best shows ever
  2914. [6/5/2014 11:25:52 PM] argakiig: gonna start adding graphs and auto update
  2915. [6/5/2014 11:25:59 PM] Pocket: like maybe if I wanted to build dac
  2916. [6/5/2014 11:26:04 PM] Pocket: or touch the QT
  2917. [6/5/2014 11:26:15 PM] argakiig: if you wanna do QT C++
  2918. [6/5/2014 11:26:24 PM] argakiig: and then learn specifically the QT
  2919. [6/5/2014 11:26:27 PM] argakiig: toolset
  2920. [6/5/2014 11:28:31 PM] Koontas: Logan, agreed. Imaginationland blew my mind.
  2921. [6/5/2014 11:33:56 PM] Koontas: Logan, you should have received some BTC to the address.
  2922. [6/5/2014 11:38:33 PM] Pocket: just spoke with genesis coin, makers of bitcoin atm
  2923. [6/5/2014 11:38:47 PM] Pocket: they're considering darkcoin, ethereum atm, and mastercoin atm
  2924. [6/5/2014 11:39:11 PM] Pocket: bitcoin is gonna brand itself as a bank
  2925. [6/5/2014 11:39:24 PM] Pocket: all the atm guys are branding as banks now
  2926. [6/5/2014 11:40:06 PM] Pocket: global banks here we come
  2927. [6/6/2014 12:17:45 AM | Edited 12:17:57 AM] Koontas: Pocket, go ahead and post that first payout in NRS will be Sunday for GF holders.
  2928. [6/6/2014 12:18:11 AM] Koontas: big fucking bold letters
  2929. [6/6/2014 12:18:15 AM] Pocket: haha
  2930. [6/6/2014 12:18:47 AM | Edited 12:18:51 AM] Koontas: we're doing it. we've got the 3th/s mining with 50% going towards them
  2931. [6/6/2014 12:19:13 AM] Pocket: just NRS? are we paying btc too?
  2932. [6/6/2014 12:19:37 AM] Koontas: I don't see a need to pay BTC, we should pay in NRS only.
  2933. [6/6/2014 12:19:53 AM] Koontas: until there's something else we release, then we'll split it up
  2934. [6/6/2014 12:19:58 AM] Pocket: k
  2935. [6/6/2014 12:20:52 AM] Pocket: feel like i should make a letter accompanying the payout to the gen fund
  2936. [6/6/2014 12:21:03 AM] Pocket: mini update, explain why they got as much as they did, etc
  2937. [6/6/2014 3:08:16 PM] Pocket: https://www.apstr.co/
  2938. [6/6/2014 3:08:20 PM] Pocket: http://avalonic.com/
  2939. [6/6/2014 3:09:05 PM] Pocket: just got off the phone with a marketing contact in Canada, talked ot him for an hour about NRS and NG
  2940. [6/6/2014 3:09:10 PM] Pocket: he mentioned avalonic and apstr
  2941. [6/6/2014 3:11:27 PM] Pocket: might be good to look into
  2942. [6/6/2014 3:11:39 PM] Pocket: also, are we trying to position ourselves as a platform like eth and maidsafe?
  2943. [6/6/2014 4:04:51 PM] Koontas: It would be cool if we could take the mining stats page and make it a general Noir stats page with exchange prices, volume, etc.
  2944. [6/6/2014 4:33:25 PM] Koontas: Miners are down. We gotta keep a close eye on them this weekend so we can give everyone a nice payout on Sunday.
  2945. [6/6/2014 5:51:30 PM] argakiig: I like that idea
  2946. [6/6/2014 5:51:36 PM] argakiig: will see what I can do
  2947. [6/6/2014 8:32:21 PM] Pocket: Check this out from myriad, multi Algo merged mining and auto exchange multipool http://coinjoint.info/myriadcoin-release-mammmp/
  2948. [6/6/2014 8:35:28 PM] argakiig: thats an interesting take on merge mining
  2949. [6/6/2014 8:35:29 PM] Logan: Well do you really need it to be a multipool at that point?
  2950. [6/6/2014 8:35:58 PM] argakiig: shares that dont find blocks are passed to other coins.
  2951. [6/6/2014 8:36:07 PM] argakiig: what about the shares that are successful
  2952. [6/6/2014 8:36:21 PM] Logan: Well I guess they lose out?
  2953. [6/6/2014 8:36:49 PM] argakiig: im more excited about the electrum based wallet
  2954. [6/6/2014 8:36:57 PM] argakiig: dont have to dl the whole blockchain
  2955. [6/6/2014 8:37:11 PM] Logan: electrum is pretty cool that way
  2956. [6/6/2014 8:37:19 PM] argakiig: http://coinjoint.info/myriadcoin-gets-electrum-based-wallet/
  2957. [6/6/2014 8:37:35 PM] Logan: that said, I either have coins online or in an offline wallet. I don't really need to 'spend' my Bitcoin.
  2958. [6/6/2014 8:39:18 PM] Logan: I think Myraid has a lot going for it.
  2959. [6/6/2014 8:39:30 PM] Logan: Pretty impressed with their progress
  2960. [6/6/2014 8:42:10 PM] Logan: NC2 switching to a new blockchain, I guess they got someone else to do it.
  2961. [6/6/2014 8:43:23 PM] argakiig: yeah
  2962. [6/6/2014 8:43:30 PM] argakiig: they told me we took too long getting back to them
  2963. [6/6/2014 8:43:52 PM] argakiig: my response was I was told by nelson to hold off while you sorted specifications out
  2964. [6/6/2014 8:43:55 PM] Logan: ? They told us to wait
  2965. [6/6/2014 8:43:59 PM] argakiig: yeah
  2966. [6/6/2014 8:44:06 PM] argakiig: they dont communicate with eachother well
  2967. [6/6/2014 8:44:12 PM] Logan: Oh well
  2968. [6/6/2014 8:45:17 PM] Logan: People in this space are so flaky
  2969. [6/6/2014 8:57:52 PM] Koontas: Yea, they definitely didn't have their shit together...
  2970. [6/7/2014 1:22:24 PM] Koontas: How far off are we from being able to confirm Barwizi's plan will work?
  2971. [6/7/2014 1:42:07 PM] Koontas: Maybe we can find a time we can all be on and chat for a few minutes on Sunday?
  2972. [6/7/2014 1:57:27 PM] argakiig: Moving the inlaws but I can try
  2973. [6/7/2014 2:17:07 PM] Logan: I'll be working but if I get an hour warning then I can make time for it.
  2974. [6/7/2014 11:59:09 PM] Barwizi: i'll be free at 1800 GMT
  2975. [6/8/2014 9:53:07 AM] Koontas: If you guys want me to send out the GF NRS I can but I need addresses and percentages.
  2976. [6/8/2014 10:43:22 AM] Logan: We need BTC & NRS for Barwizi then we are just missing out two people but that is fine, they had enough warning.
  2977. [6/8/2014 10:44:28 AM] Koontas: Barwizi, you want your NRS from the payout? :^)
  2978. [6/8/2014 10:45:30 AM] Barwizi: of course
  2979. [6/8/2014 10:45:42 AM] Koontas: haha i thought so!
  2980. [6/8/2014 10:45:55 AM] Logan: Please provide me with a NRS & BTC address
  2981. [6/8/2014 10:46:02 AM] Barwizi: was reading electrum code
  2982. [6/8/2014 10:46:12 AM] Barwizi: hoping we can adapt
  2983. [6/8/2014 10:47:00 AM] Barwizi: 1CCuamNem7kaEFUxHTLCQUMhpiHds4sdpA
  2984. [6/8/2014 10:47:05 AM] Barwizi: \BTC
  2985. [6/8/2014 10:47:55 AM] Barwizi: 9Ziz6Rdkqgqk7KioUguWcc1TD6UMVEkRHW NRS
  2986. [6/8/2014 10:53:56 AM] Koontas: I was waiting for a 9Barwizi... address
  2987. [6/8/2014 10:54:18 AM] Logan: haha
  2988. [6/8/2014 10:54:36 AM] Barwizi: lol, cant seem to get the vanity to work
  2989. [6/8/2014 10:54:53 AM] Koontas: :)
  2990. [6/8/2014 10:55:24 AM] Barwizi: have you tried?
  2991. [6/8/2014 10:55:32 AM] Koontas: I haven't.
  2992. [6/8/2014 11:00:17 AM] Logan: So we are missing addresses for cc5alive & Tiau. 3.97% & 0.36% Are we okay to proceed without them?, i.e. They lose their distribution this week.
  2993. [6/8/2014 11:01:22 AM] Koontas: we have made multiple posts and sent multiple PM's, correct?
  2994. [6/8/2014 11:02:30 AM] Barwizi: i'm selling ech GF share @ 30 BTC
  2995. [6/8/2014 11:04:05 AM] Logan: Yes, I believe that Pocket also emailed them
  2996. [6/8/2014 11:04:09 AM] Koontas: ok
  2997. [6/8/2014 11:04:18 AM] Logan: Pocket, can you confirm?
  2998. [6/8/2014 11:39:30 AM] Pocket: Cc5 said he'd get me an Addy asap, but he hasn't still... Been a few days
  2999. [6/8/2014 11:39:59 AM] Pocket: Also, syscoin http://247cryptonews.com/syscoin-not-just-a-coin-but-an-all-in-one-financial-system/
  3000. [6/8/2014 11:48:07 AM] Logan: Syscoin sounds like hot air
  3001. [6/8/2014 11:48:22 AM] Pocket: A lot of it
  3002. [6/8/2014 11:48:43 AM] Pocket: But, they're reaching for the biggrr picture
  3003. [6/8/2014 11:49:11 AM] Pocket: A bigger picture
  3004. [6/8/2014 11:49:36 AM] Logan: Pocket, can you post a 'last warning' for GF payout for the address in the thread?
  3005. [6/8/2014 11:49:42 AM] Pocket: K
  3006. [6/8/2014 11:50:25 AM] Logan: Just so the two can't come back and say you never let us know
  3007. [6/8/2014 11:52:53 AM] Pocket: Why don't we just hold onto their payouts for like a month or two or three or something and if they show up to collect, cool, if they don't, they turnover to gf
  3008. [6/8/2014 12:06:45 PM] Pocket: Or, if it's scripted payouts then we can't hold onto them?
  3009. [6/8/2014 3:01:14 PM] Koontas: We have 1156 NRS to distribute. (y)
  3010. [6/8/2014 4:20:29 PM] Koontas: Logan do you want to or do you want me to?
  3011. [6/8/2014 4:40:06 PM] Pocket: How should I explain to the gf
  3012. [6/8/2014 4:40:53 PM] Pocket: Just some small proceeds from mining, smaller than we expect to pay usually because of startup situation, but payouts will be regular from here forward
  3013. [6/8/2014 4:40:57 PM] Pocket: ?
  3014. [6/8/2014 5:05:45 PM] Pocket: I will also give a little update, maybe I can tease something about the new software or block chain tech
  3015. [6/8/2014 5:06:23 PM] Pocket: Like... We are porting a new wallet, or new block chain will change the way we process multiple chains?
  3016. [6/8/2014 5:07:02 PM] Koontas: I'll leave Barwizi to answer how he wants to tease that. I do not want to give away too much that would give anyone a chance to try to copy...
  3017. [6/8/2014 5:07:31 PM] Pocket: Right
  3018. [6/8/2014 5:08:18 PM] Pocket: I also want to make sure we tease something that will actually happen, and if they aren't confident enough in the new chain tech then I don't want to talk about it
  3019. [6/8/2014 5:08:27 PM] Pocket: Like the irc implementation we said we would include
  3020. [6/8/2014 5:08:52 PM] Pocket: But hopefully with silk coin wallet implementation we can get multiple birds with one stone
  3021. [6/8/2014 5:09:00 PM] Pocket: Since that has irc
  3022. [6/8/2014 6:51:57 PM] Logan: Koontas - Can you do it? I am in the middle of trying to get something finished tonight
  3023. [6/8/2014 7:00:02 PM] Koontas: Yep, no prob. Sending it out now.
  3024. [6/8/2014 7:33:30 PM] Koontas: Payments have been sent. 1150 distributed logan, you can add the calc to your spreadsheet if you want
  3025. [6/8/2014 10:24:16 PM] Koontas: Looks like the miners all went down.
  3026. [6/8/2014 10:26:20 PM] argakiig: more than an hour ago :/
  3027. [6/8/2014 10:27:22 PM] Koontas: Yea. Bar, when will the addl 2th/s be moved?
  3028. [6/9/2014 10:22:55 AM] argakiig: miners are down again :/
  3029. [6/9/2014 10:29:59 AM] Barwizi: data centre says they've been up all day
  3030. [6/9/2014 10:30:32 AM] Barwizi: koontas pass me a link so i can look into them
  3031. [6/9/2014 10:31:48 AM] Koontas: https://ghash.io/
  3032. [6/9/2014 10:31:49 AM] Koontas: [Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:03 PM] Koontas:
  3033.  
  3034. <<< User = NoirMin
  3035. PW = noirftw1
  3036. [6/9/2014 10:34:28 AM] argakiig: Or nrs.argakiig.us/miner
  3037. [6/9/2014 11:48:41 AM] argakiig: now 2 miners are down
  3038. [6/9/2014 11:48:44 AM] argakiig: :/
  3039. [6/9/2014 12:19:34 PM] Pocket: being able to stack multiple chains together, mine them all at once, would there be a limitation to the number of different coins we can backpack?
  3040. [6/9/2014 12:19:54 PM] Pocket: piggyback
  3041. [6/9/2014 2:34:00 PM] Koontas: Pocket, you mentioned the other day we should turn the bigger room into an investor chat. I'm all for it... Easiest way would be to email or message them all and have them add you so you can add them to the chat.
  3042. [6/9/2014 2:34:10 PM] Koontas: I dont really want a post in the forum about it though....
  3043. [6/9/2014 2:36:09 PM] Pocket: sure, i will send email update
  3044. [6/9/2014 2:45:30 PM] Koontas: you can exclude andrew, lol
  3045. [6/9/2014 2:45:40 PM] Pocket: lol
  3046. [6/9/2014 2:45:58 PM] Pocket: will we boot non-GF members
  3047. [6/9/2014 2:46:16 PM] Koontas: nah...
  3048. [6/9/2014 2:46:20 PM] Pocket: also i want to solidify our long-term vision
  3049. [6/9/2014 2:46:32 PM] Pocket: i'm blowing a lot of hot air trying to survive questions from inquiring folks
  3050. [6/9/2014 2:46:43 PM] Koontas: I agree with that Pocket.
  3051. [6/9/2014 2:46:48 PM] Koontas: 120%
  3052. [6/9/2014 2:46:59 PM] Pocket: basically i've been telling people our focus is the best digital asset management software
  3053. [6/9/2014 2:47:18 PM] Pocket: with a focus on creating the most liquid asset class, digital
  3054. [6/9/2014 2:47:54 PM] Pocket: it's an asset that can be used as a corporate share, can represent certificates, etc, but be spent like liquid cash
  3055. [6/9/2014 2:47:59 PM] Koontas: Right now people have been getting attention by releasing whitepapers and roadmaps...if we can do that we would be golden.
  3056. [6/9/2014 2:48:33 PM] Pocket: the platform we create will allow for the management of these liquid digital assets, while giving us a platform for people to use their NRS to buy/sell ownership in DACs
  3057. [6/9/2014 2:48:41 PM] Koontas: Also, if we say we're going to do something, that'll encourage us to get it done quicker.
  3058. [6/9/2014 2:48:52 PM] Pocket: NG builds some DACs, while we also encourage 3rd party developers to build DACs for our platform
  3059. [6/9/2014 2:49:32 PM] Pocket: which is why i'm curious in regards to how many chains we can stack on the new system
  3060. [6/9/2014 2:49:48 PM] Pocket: are we gonna be able to run every DAC we tokenize on the same stack chain?
  3061. [6/9/2014 2:53:58 PM] Pocket: when the exchange is functioning the way we envision, we would be able to turn companies into DACs and list them on our platform?
  3062. [6/9/2014 2:54:21 PM] Koontas: what exchange?
  3063. [6/9/2014 2:54:35 PM] Koontas: as far as i know the exchange idea is long dead...
  3064. [6/9/2014 2:54:37 PM] Pocket: the exchange we hope to think about possibly consider building
  3065. [6/9/2014 2:54:48 PM] Pocket: lol
  3066. [6/9/2014 2:55:31 PM] Koontas: We're not quite at the level we'd need to be at to handle an exchange IMO.
  3067. [6/9/2014 2:55:36 PM] Pocket: i completely agree
  3068. [6/9/2014 2:55:43 PM] Pocket: but if we really do things well, it would be part of the picture
  3069. [6/9/2014 2:55:55 PM] Koontas: Yep, definitely would need to step it up a notch.
  3070. [6/9/2014 2:56:14 PM] Pocket: I've been saying things like, "NoirShares is aiming to be part of the most liquid asset class in the world. The NoirShares platform allows for the representation of rigid assets like certificates, titles, shares, etc. while also providing the ability to spend them like liquid cash."
  3071. [6/9/2014 2:57:40 PM] Koontas: Do we know if yvg has had a chance to look at the code and/or what next steps are?
  3072. [6/9/2014 2:57:49 PM] Koontas: If we need help, there are people we can hire.
  3073. [6/9/2014 3:09:16 PM] Pocket: i'm studying ethereum and maidsafe right now, people have been asking if we are comparable as a platform
  3074. [6/9/2014 3:11:32 PM] Pocket: can we send 20 NRS to 9bKCuzqPq4nXr2GvhdjS9xZJQJKPctUx9y Mitch Callahan with saucal.com he's learning about NRS from me right now and is making a presentation for the group on what he can do to re-brand / re-build our site/logo etc
  3075. [6/9/2014 3:11:56 PM] Koontas: yes i will send
  3076. [6/9/2014 3:14:53 PM] Pocket: damnit ethereum making progress
  3077. [6/9/2014 3:14:59 PM] Pocket: looking good..
  3078. [6/9/2014 3:20:51 PM] Koontas: sent pocket
  3079. [6/9/2014 3:22:24 PM] Pocket: we are as much of a DAC platform as ETH and PTS ya
  3080. [6/9/2014 3:23:13 PM] Koontas: yes indeed
  3081. [6/9/2014 3:23:44 PM] Pocket: we're really not that different from ethereum
  3082. [6/9/2014 3:23:53 PM] Pocket: what's the main difference
  3083. [6/9/2014 3:23:57 PM] Pocket: the blockchain tech
  3084. [6/9/2014 3:25:10 PM] Koontas: the main difference i'm noticing between us and a lot of these other groups is branding
  3085. [6/9/2014 3:25:38 PM] Koontas: IMO we need to find a way to really get our name out there
  3086. [6/9/2014 3:25:50 PM] Pocket: i'm saying that while ethereum and maidsafe and those guys are leaving the platform very open ended (build anything! change the world!) we're focusing on altcoin productivity
  3087. [6/9/2014 3:25:52 PM] Koontas: however, i have no fucking clue how to do that...
  3088. [6/9/2014 3:26:27 PM] Pocket: we're focusing on the here and now of the crypto environment
  3089. [6/9/2014 3:27:02 PM] Pocket: gotta manage the coins so multi wallet, gotta get profits and run our projects so DACs , DAOs, exchanging, and tokenizations, stack chain mining, news, etc
  3090. [6/9/2014 3:27:15 PM] Pocket: eth and maidsafe are like hey use our platform to build whatever
  3091. [6/9/2014 3:32:06 PM] Pocket: ethereum's yellow paper is also pretty full
  3092. [6/9/2014 3:41:11 PM] Koontas: what makes it yellow and not white?
  3093. [6/9/2014 3:41:17 PM] Koontas: did someone pee on it?
  3094. [6/9/2014 3:41:25 PM] Pocket: (puke)
  3095. [6/9/2014 3:41:31 PM] Pocket: http://gavwood.com/Paper.pdf
  3096. [6/9/2014 3:41:36 PM] Pocket: https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/%5BEnglish%5D-White-Paper#blockchain-and-mining
  3097. [6/9/2014 3:42:16 PM] Koontas: doctors...
  3098. [6/9/2014 3:42:51 PM] Pocket: i want to go legit like ethereum
  3099. [6/9/2014 3:42:58 PM] Pocket: but with a focus on our target audience, crypto users
  3100. [6/9/2014 3:43:12 PM] Pocket: making software for them right here right now, multi wallet, exchange, tokenization, etc
  3101. [6/9/2014 3:43:18 PM] Pocket: ethereum and maidsafe leave it too open-ended
  3102. [6/9/2014 3:43:28 PM] Pocket: hey...use our platform to do...these things..or whatever...
  3103. [6/9/2014 3:44:13 PM] Pocket: they have a big team and community now... check the bottom https://www.ethereum.org/
  3104. [6/9/2014 3:45:02 PM] Pocket: and none of the people in the photos look very sketch or unwholesome lol
  3105. [6/9/2014 3:46:07 PM] Koontas: haha yeah
  3106. [6/9/2014 4:01:13 PM] Pocket: so...when the new chain tech is ready, i can approach coin groups, or they can come to us, and run on our chain and network?
  3107. [6/9/2014 4:01:38 PM] Pocket: load/bloat might get extreme unless barwizi says we can stack as many chains as we want?
  3108. [6/9/2014 7:03:17 PM] Barwizi: 'LLO ALL
  3109. [6/9/2014 7:04:40 PM] Barwizi: i'm kinda stuck now, i'll upload some changes to the new codebase but we seem to be having an issue where only a few blocks sync then it stops
  3110. [6/9/2014 7:05:30 PM] Barwizi: hopefully yvg can sya something son since we need the initial codebase to work flawlessyly befor merging the chains
  3111. [6/9/2014 8:10:28 PM] argakiig: yeah bar, thats the same issue I was having
  3112. [6/9/2014 8:10:40 PM] argakiig: 2 blocks would pass checkpoints and then stop
  3113. [6/10/2014 9:36:11 AM] Pocket: http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/NRS/
  3114. [6/10/2014 9:36:31 AM] Pocket: We are on the biggest alt exchange in China
  3115. [6/10/2014 9:36:37 AM] Pocket: Bigger than bter
  3116. [6/10/2014 9:36:48 AM] Pocket: Maybe time to pay the Chinese promoters
  3117. [6/10/2014 9:37:09 AM] Pocket: Coordinate with upcoming release
  3118. [6/10/2014 10:18:09 AM] Pocket: Chinese comments on btc38 about nrs are really positive
  3119. [6/10/2014 11:14:41 AM] Koontas: oh nice!
  3120. [6/10/2014 11:51:33 AM] Pocket: with the crazy amount of POS coins out there, logan's minterbot would be really nice in the multi wallet... manage all the coins in one wallet, have them all stake in the same place..don't need to have 20 wallet QTs open...
  3121. [6/10/2014 11:51:43 AM] Pocket: minterbot gets a cut of stake..fed to GF
  3122. [6/10/2014 11:51:45 AM] Pocket: or noir group
  3123. [6/10/2014 1:42:52 PM] Koontas: Barwizi, does yvg have the time right now to look at the code or should I bring someone else in?
  3124. [6/10/2014 4:22:17 PM] Koontas: Pocket, can you fill this out? https://www.altcoincalendar.info/coins/new
  3125. [6/10/2014 4:22:59 PM] Pocket: we're pretty old coin lol
  3126. [6/10/2014 4:23:28 PM] Koontas: it's alright...
  3127. [6/10/2014 4:23:44 PM] Koontas: at least then it'll be in their database
  3128. [6/10/2014 4:23:57 PM] Pocket: when did NRS start?
  3129. [6/10/2014 4:23:57 PM] Koontas: "When you add and confirm your coin, then we will aprove it and you will get free tweet and facebook post that your coin was added to our calendar. This will give you publicity."
  3130. [6/10/2014 4:24:11 PM] Pocket: Jan 13th according to btc38
  3131. [6/10/2014 4:24:22 PM] Koontas: 2/13
  3132. [6/10/2014 4:30:38 PM] Pocket: done
  3133. [6/10/2014 4:30:41 PM] Pocket: awaiting admin approval
  3134. [6/10/2014 4:38:57 PM] Pocket: https://www.altcoincalendar.info/coins/549-NRS
  3135. [6/10/2014 4:41:09 PM] Pocket: should we throw some sort of party for 1k twitter followers
  3136. [6/10/2014 5:07:00 PM] Koontas: Pocket when should we expect to hear from saucal?
  3137. [6/10/2014 7:04:44 PM] Pocket: Soon, I told him we need to prepare for next release
  3138. [6/10/2014 9:43:55 PM] Koontas: (y)
  3139. [6/10/2014 10:49:40 PM] Koontas: So, we should consider filling Cass' spot on the team....
  3140. [6/10/2014 10:50:55 PM] Pocket: what exactly did cass do
  3141. [6/10/2014 10:51:19 PM] Koontas: front-end dev
  3142. [6/10/2014 10:51:29 PM] Pocket: all?
  3143. [6/10/2014 10:51:31 PM] Pocket: any?
  3144. [6/10/2014 10:51:33 PM] Koontas: but we'd replace him with a more versatile dev
  3145. [6/10/2014 10:52:00 PM] Koontas: someone who can do front end, back end, qt, blockchain...
  3146. [6/10/2014 10:52:20 PM] Pocket: exists such a weapon?
  3147. [6/10/2014 10:52:45 PM] Koontas: well, someone like arg...
  3148. [6/10/2014 10:52:49 PM] Koontas: all around skillz
  3149. [6/10/2014 10:54:55 PM] Barwizi: [Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:52 PM] Pocket:
  3150.  
  3151. <<< exists such a weapon?
  3152. [6/10/2014 10:55:04 PM] Barwizi: (nod)
  3153. [6/10/2014 10:55:58 PM] Pocket: hey bar
  3154. [6/10/2014 11:02:07 PM] Pocket: I like leaguecoin's legal statement lol https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622801.0
  3155. [6/10/2014 11:05:29 PM] argakiig: ey if there was someone else like me that would be awesome
  3156. [6/10/2014 11:05:38 PM] argakiig: so many irons in the fire right now
  3157. [6/10/2014 11:05:41 PM] argakiig: :/
  3158. [6/11/2014 12:06:15 AM] Pocket: :\
  3159. [6/11/2014 12:24:55 AM] Barwizi: :/\
  3160. [6/11/2014 12:25:27 AM] Barwizi: i got home, sat a few minutes, then my neighbor had a miscariage
  3161. [6/11/2014 12:25:37 AM] Barwizi: guess who had to drive
  3162. [6/11/2014 12:25:57 AM] Barwizi: :(
  3163. [6/11/2014 12:26:19 AM] Barwizi: i'll get back to you guys in a while, i need some sleep
  3164. [6/11/2014 12:26:59 AM] Barwizi: can't even go get food in the kitchen, (lazy+tired+ hungover+ life)
  3165. [6/11/2014 12:27:19 AM] Barwizi: i'll read it all when i can make sense of it
  3166. [6/11/2014 11:59:41 AM] Pocket: mitch with saucal also looking to make a coin, may consider having us build it and run it on NRS platform
  3167. [6/11/2014 12:10:20 PM] Koontas: Awesome, feel free to loop me in when needed.
  3168. [6/11/2014 1:40:08 PM] Koontas: we have been somewhat called out on bitcointalk...
  3169. [6/11/2014 1:42:53 PM] Pocket: on it
  3170. [6/11/2014 1:51:22 PM] Koontas: (y)
  3171. [6/11/2014 2:24:11 PM] Pocket: myriad releasing SMS wallet, send money via text message
  3172. [6/11/2014 2:30:22 PM] Koontas: Damn, new 100mh/s scrypt miners coming out for $2k USD...
  3173. [6/11/2014 2:30:44 PM] Koontas: Resellers who orders 20 get 20% off...so buy 20, sell 16, 4 for free...
  3174. [6/11/2014 5:05:28 PM] Koontas: DO NOT REGISTER OR DO ANYTHING, BUT: http://noirgroup.vanillaforums.com/
  3175. [6/11/2014 5:05:41 PM] Koontas: I'm going to see what I can do with it tonight...
  3176. [6/11/2014 5:06:40 PM] Koontas: I'm also using a 30 day trial of their cloud forum assuming that everything could also be done with their opensource software and plugins...
  3177. [6/11/2014 7:50:21 PM] Koontas: I should mention that on that board/forum there is a "General Fund Members" section that is EASILY restricted. Tested on an account...
  3178. [6/11/2014 10:35:28 PM] Pocket: Is it reaching too far to think that maybe we could rebuild the Internet as we know it onto some kind of block chain based system
  3179. [6/11/2014 10:37:06 PM] argakiig: IMHO yes
  3180. [6/11/2014 10:37:25 PM] Pocket: Shit
  3181. [6/11/2014 10:37:28 PM] argakiig: to an extent you could
  3182. [6/11/2014 10:37:37 PM] argakiig: but people want instant data
  3183. [6/11/2014 10:37:50 PM] Barwizi: lol
  3184. [6/11/2014 10:38:04 PM | Edited 10:38:12 PM] argakiig: also the blockchain bloat would be enormous
  3185. [6/11/2014 10:38:45 PM] Barwizi: even with micro blockchain tech it would be pointless, the internet is a network so any form of records defeats the purpose since we all want anonymity
  3186. [6/11/2014 10:39:16 PM] Barwizi: the only thing that can be used viably is DHT and node based ideas
  3187. [6/11/2014 10:39:40 PM] Koontas: pocket, you definitely think big...
  3188. [6/11/2014 10:45:07 PM] Pocket: Was at a tech mixer today
  3189. [6/11/2014 10:45:36 PM] Koontas: how'd it go?
  3190. [6/11/2014 10:46:16 PM] Pocket: Lots of interesting folks lol... And way fewer qualified coders than expected
  3191. [6/11/2014 10:46:28 PM] Koontas: lol
  3192. [6/11/2014 10:46:34 PM] Pocket: I definitely blew them away with everything beyond bitcoin...
  3193. [6/11/2014 10:48:41 PM] Pocket: Mainly went to introduce myself, slowly will delve deeper each week
  3194. [6/11/2014 10:50:09 PM] Pocket: Will try to push ethereum's strategy of real world meetups
  3195. [6/11/2014 10:50:31 PM] Pocket: We can claim to compete directly with them and maidsafe yeah?
  3196. [6/11/2014 10:50:53 PM] Koontas: I would say that's fair.
  3197. [6/11/2014 11:09:55 PM] Pocket: I been telling people we are similar, but we also have a focus on DAC for real application in crypto environment
  3198. [6/12/2014 10:41:26 AM] Pocket: at some point i'd like to be able to approach real world businesses and tell them I can DAC-ify their company
  3199. [6/12/2014 10:41:37 AM] Pocket: as much as we are able
  3200. [6/12/2014 10:42:03 AM] Pocket: if the company is a good candidate for such a thing
  3201. [6/12/2014 1:14:20 PM] Koontas: Bar, what's the status of the 2th/s of miners not pointed at ghash?
  3202. [6/12/2014 1:15:22 PM] Koontas: I don't want to jinx anything but the 3th/s appear to be more stable than they have previously the past 12-18 hours
  3203. [6/12/2014 2:09:12 PM] Pocket: i've been using the term digital asset management, but goddamn adobe is already pushing digital assets as text or media files that are formatted into a binary source including the rights to use them
  3204. [6/12/2014 2:10:20 PM] Pocket: ...can we jump on that train? make a chain that stores digital media assets and the rights to use them are the address/key
  3205. [6/12/2014 2:10:53 PM] Pocket: photoshop files, art logos, pictures, copyrighted stuff
  3206. [6/12/2014 2:31:31 PM] Koontas: would be super bloated
  3207. [6/12/2014 4:03:18 PM] Koontas: Another Maidsafe coin... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650221.new#new
  3208. [6/12/2014 10:38:20 PM] Pocket: http://www.reddit.com/r/futuristparty/comments/27vk4k/maidsafe_is_creating_a_new_decentralized_internet/ comments are good
  3209. [6/13/2014 11:28:01 AM | Edited 11:30:29 AM] Barwizi: in a clear show of how little the crypto crowd understands BTC 2.0 and derivatives, look at the first comment made on the link pocket posted
  3210. [6/13/2014 11:28:18 AM] Barwizi: this is why i try to shy from openining the hood tooo much,
  3211. [6/13/2014 11:28:28 AM] Barwizi: i want users to simply point and click
  3212. [6/13/2014 11:29:09 AM] Barwizi: the moment non-technicals start having to try understand what it is your product does, you have lost the war
  3213. [6/13/2014 2:22:25 PM] Koontas: Any chance we can all be around at 9pm pst or so?
  3214. [6/13/2014 2:22:34 PM] Koontas: Have an opportunity to discuss with everyone.
  3215. [6/13/2014 3:11:07 PM] Pocket: That pob idea by saucal team is pretty fun
  3216. [6/13/2014 3:11:50 PM] Koontas: http://pastebin.com/WxYTW8hf
  3217. [6/13/2014 3:11:50 PM] Pocket: And very potent
  3218. [6/13/2014 3:11:58 PM] Koontas: Yes, but probably way premature for us...
  3219. [6/13/2014 3:12:02 PM] Pocket: Great attack /rescue concept
  3220. [6/13/2014 3:12:12 PM] Koontas: Sounds like they want something before we'll be able to even get our update out...
  3221. [6/13/2014 3:12:36 PM] Koontas: So we likely will not be able to help them IMO.
  3222. [6/13/2014 9:01:47 PM] Logan: I think we have too much diversification of efforts
  3223. [6/13/2014 9:02:51 PM] Koontas: Indeed.
  3224. [6/13/2014 9:04:08 PM] Logan: That said, I would love to get the inside scoop on the next coins that they are going to be buying
  3225. [6/13/2014 9:04:46 PM] Koontas: what do you mean?
  3226. [6/13/2014 9:05:30 PM] Logan: Well whatever burn coin that they announce next should have a bump (particularly if it is low cap)
  3227. [6/13/2014 9:12:32 PM] Koontas: ah yes
  3228. [6/13/2014 9:38:41 PM] Logan: Every time I post the new updated share registry, I am always woried about doing A. Wiener.
  3229. [6/13/2014 9:40:36 PM] Koontas: lol
  3230. [6/13/2014 11:10:54 PM] Koontas: Logan, can you please review? http://ng.argakiig.us/test.php
  3231. [6/13/2014 11:11:08 PM] Koontas: Once you confirm payments can start being sent out whenever we hit 500 NRS or 1 BTC.
  3232. [6/13/2014 11:11:39 PM] Logan: This isn't the real version
  3233. [6/13/2014 11:11:53 PM] Logan: I had to cut out some smaller shareholders to do the test with a small amount
  3234. [6/13/2014 11:12:02 PM] argakiig: it will work with anything over 500 now
  3235. [6/13/2014 11:12:31 PM] argakiig: so add those 2 back
  3236. [6/13/2014 11:12:36 PM] argakiig: and we are g2g for now
  3237. [6/13/2014 11:13:06 PM] Barwizi: my electricity bill for last month came in
  3238. [6/13/2014 11:13:22 PM] Barwizi: i think i'll be claiming from the group guys
  3239. [6/13/2014 11:22:50 PM] Koontas: FYI: You have
  3240. 472.3291764 NRS
  3241. [6/13/2014 11:24:46 PM] Barwizi: who, the whole group?
  3242. [6/13/2014 11:25:28 PM] Koontas: that's what's in holding for payout
  3243. [6/13/2014 11:25:40 PM] Barwizi: cool\
  3244. [6/13/2014 11:25:59 PM] Koontas: I've been making good buys if I do say so myself.
  3245. [6/14/2014 12:47:43 AM] Pocket: Can i share that link?
  3246. [6/14/2014 12:47:56 AM] Koontas: nooooo
  3247. [6/14/2014 12:48:30 AM] Pocket: Would be great press for our dac efforts.... Automated payouts! Look!
  3248. [6/14/2014 12:48:58 AM] Koontas: That URL cannot be made public...
  3249. [6/14/2014 12:49:10 AM] Koontas: On 6/13/14, at 11:22 PM, argakiig wrote:
  3250. > so for now the security on that payout page is its anonymity
  3251. so i recommend making sure they csv is uploaded each time you run a payout, and dont send nrs unless its being paid out shortly
  3252. [6/14/2014 12:49:26 AM] Koontas: so no, don't share it
  3253. [6/14/2014 12:49:37 AM] Koontas: and, it's not automated. i still have to send to the address.
  3254. [6/14/2014 12:50:53 AM] Pocket: Ok
  3255. [6/14/2014 2:31:52 AM] Barwizi: anybody here?
  3256. [6/14/2014 8:02:09 AM] Pocket: Sup
  3257. [6/14/2014 8:02:17 AM] Pocket: 8am pst
  3258. [6/14/2014 8:45:07 AM] Barwizi: Your approximate maximum potential earnings at the current network difficulty of 11,756,551,916.90 and maintaining your 3-hour average hash rate of 21.07 Gh/s is 0.00090149 BTC per day.
  3259. [6/14/2014 8:45:18 AM] Barwizi: oh how the mighty have fallen
  3260. [6/14/2014 8:46:28 AM] Barwizi: lol, ~ 3 years to get a bitcoin
  3261. [6/14/2014 8:56:09 PM] Logan: I just updated the write up for my NRS post, can someone review it?
  3262. [6/14/2014 8:56:41 PM] Logan: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=565623.msg6163898#msg6163898
  3263. [6/14/2014 8:57:12 PM] Koontas: (y) looking now
  3264. [6/14/2014 8:58:57 PM] argakiig: looks good
  3265. [6/14/2014 8:59:27 PM] Logan: thanks
  3266. [6/14/2014 9:00:26 PM] Koontas: (y)
  3267. [6/14/2014 9:00:42 PM] argakiig: hey barwizi you around?
  3268. [6/14/2014 9:43:34 PM] Logan: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=518894.0
  3269. [6/14/2014 9:44:58 PM] Koontas: All done on the backend I'm sure...
  3270. [6/14/2014 9:45:07 PM] Koontas: not in the blockchain
  3271. [6/14/2014 9:45:08 PM] Koontas: obviously
  3272. [6/14/2014 9:45:18 PM] Koontas: cool nonetheless
  3273. [6/14/2014 9:45:32 PM] Logan: Yeah, it is cool
  3274. [6/14/2014 9:46:12 PM] Koontas: and "holytransaction".... (facepalm)
  3275. [6/14/2014 9:46:26 PM] Logan: Oh I know
  3276. [6/14/2014 9:46:34 PM] Logan: Terrible, jesus
  3277. [6/14/2014 9:46:40 PM] Koontas: haha
  3278. [6/14/2014 9:46:46 PM] Logan: *groan*
  3279. [6/14/2014 10:01:12 PM] argakiig: pocket you there?
  3280. [6/14/2014 10:01:28 PM] argakiig: I need the login to the website please
  3281. [6/14/2014 10:01:36 PM] argakiig: to the ftp server
  3282. [6/14/2014 10:11:35 PM] Pocket: Cassiopaia / noirftw
  3283. [6/14/2014 10:11:39 PM] Pocket: Or noirwins
  3284. [6/14/2014 10:13:00 PM] Logan: Can we change that?
  3285. [6/14/2014 10:13:36 PM] Pocket: Yeah
  3286. [6/14/2014 10:17:06 PM] argakiig: cassiopaia doesnt work
  3287. [6/14/2014 10:17:32 PM] argakiig: noirwins doesnt work either
  3288. [6/14/2014 10:17:41 PM] argakiig: less the ftp is not gwinnett.dreamhost.com
  3289. [6/14/2014 10:18:01 PM] Pocket: Try noirftw again, I reset pw to it
  3290. [6/14/2014 10:18:59 PM] argakiig: that is it
  3291. [6/14/2014 10:19:01 PM] argakiig: TY
  3292. [6/14/2014 10:22:15 PM] argakiig: [Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:15 PM] godzirra:
  3293.  
  3294. <<< But nrs also has a funding issue no?
  3295. [6/14/2014 10:22:16 PM] argakiig: what?
  3296. [6/14/2014 10:22:20 PM] argakiig: where did he get that from?
  3297. [6/14/2014 10:22:28 PM] Koontas: that i'm not sure of
  3298. [6/14/2014 10:22:44 PM] Koontas: maybe because he doesn't see us posting bounties?
  3299. [6/14/2014 10:22:47 PM] Koontas: dunno
  3300. [6/14/2014 10:22:59 PM] argakiig: perhaps cause work is mostly handled internally
  3301. [6/14/2014 10:23:12 PM] Koontas: yeah
  3302. [6/14/2014 10:30:05 PM] Logan: I wouldn't say that, I am sure that he recognizes the fact that we are not sitting on a lot of surplus cash to internally fund development for the long term
  3303. [6/14/2014 10:30:51 PM] Logan: with a million+, we all know that invictus is going to be around for a while. We are sitting on hundreds of dollars so obviously we don't have the same security
  3304. [6/14/2014 10:36:44 PM] Koontas: Do you think it's appropriate for us to release a whitepaper on what's being worked on?
  3305. [6/14/2014 10:37:07 PM] Koontas: I know barwizi has one written up and I have someone that can review and spruce it up a bit I think.
  3306. [6/15/2014 12:19:03 AM] Pocket: http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/282m8m/charles_hoskinson_left_ethereum/
  3307. [6/15/2014 12:22:37 AM] Barwizi: hi all
  3308. [6/15/2014 12:23:23 AM] Koontas: (wave)
  3309. [6/15/2014 12:23:34 AM] argakiig: hey ya,
  3310. [6/15/2014 12:23:52 AM] argakiig: was wondering what the remaining 2ths was pointed at
  3311. [6/15/2014 12:26:09 AM] Barwizi: i tried to revive the other and nearly burn my hair off when the p/s supply blew
  3312. [6/15/2014 12:26:17 AM] Barwizi: there is currently 4 Th pointed
  3313. [6/15/2014 12:26:39 AM] Barwizi: until i can go with the new p/s
  3314. [6/15/2014 12:26:45 AM] Barwizi: which is monday morning
  3315. [6/15/2014 12:27:26 AM] Barwizi: the other one will unfortunately have to just perform at 750 GH/s
  3316. [6/15/2014 12:27:51 AM] Barwizi: the fourth blade is costing in down time and repairs
  3317. [6/15/2014 12:30:35 AM] argakiig: the 4th is at ghash as well?
  3318. [6/15/2014 12:31:26 AM] Barwizi: no, that was still on eligius, but it can be moved
  3319. [6/15/2014 12:31:53 AM] Logan: Well I mentioned in the thread that we were using the other two machines for covering costs. I think that is fine.
  3320. [6/15/2014 12:33:15 AM] Koontas: We should ultimately have 3 addresses: hosting fees, savings, GF NRS and the hosting fees % should be adjusted every difficulty change to ensure we're covering our mining costs
  3321. [6/15/2014 12:38:16 AM] Barwizi: anyone else having sync issues?
  3322. [6/15/2014 12:38:46 AM] argakiig: http://puu.sh/9uhLK/4dea647920.png
  3323. [6/15/2014 12:38:48 AM] argakiig: not I
  3324. [6/15/2014 12:39:02 AM] Koontas: no sir
  3325. [6/15/2014 12:39:03 AM] argakiig: just got a new block even
  3326. [6/15/2014 12:40:17 AM] Logan: I am synced
  3327. [6/15/2014 12:41:59 AM] Barwizi: i'm stuck at 2659 blocks left
  3328. [6/15/2014 12:42:06 AM] Barwizi: ok, it's moving now
  3329. [6/15/2014 1:13:58 AM] Barwizi: Guys, i think that we should split development efforts into satans fork
  3330. [6/15/2014 1:15:20 AM] argakiig: meaning?
  3331. [6/15/2014 1:15:32 AM] Barwizi: there is a urgent need for us to release something so i say let's release Noir Lotto on Friday
  3332. [6/15/2014 1:15:38 AM] Barwizi: as a seperate entity
  3333. [6/15/2014 1:16:12 AM] Barwizi: it will give investors the impression of progress and give idle CPUs something to do
  3334. [6/15/2014 1:16:48 AM] Barwizi: our development efforts have been hitting walls and delays that we are starting to look a lot like invictus
  3335. [6/15/2014 1:17:38 AM] argakiig: what coin type?
  3336. [6/15/2014 1:18:06 AM] argakiig: Momentum PoS?
  3337. [6/15/2014 1:18:14 AM] Barwizi: this will keep people busy while we focus on the meerged chain, and once it is complete, we can simply take a snap shot of our chains and import them into one chain
  3338. [6/15/2014 1:18:27 AM] argakiig: basically outline the stats and tell me what wallet you want to base it off
  3339. [6/15/2014 1:18:30 AM] Barwizi: we can't have PoS on lotto
  3340. [6/15/2014 1:18:32 AM] Koontas: when you say "simply", is it really simple?
  3341. [6/15/2014 1:18:52 AM] Koontas: (seriously curious)
  3342. [6/15/2014 1:18:59 AM] Barwizi: i helped develop the code for importing balances...so it is simple
  3343. [6/15/2014 1:19:08 AM] Koontas: (y)
  3344. [6/15/2014 1:19:08 AM] Barwizi: (cool)
  3345. [6/15/2014 1:19:24 AM] argakiig: so coin specs and algo
  3346. [6/15/2014 1:19:43 AM] argakiig: and then what wallet we are looking to clone and I can take a look at it
  3347. [6/15/2014 1:20:09 AM] Koontas: SC wallet
  3348. [6/15/2014 1:20:16 AM] Koontas: well, kinda
  3349. [6/15/2014 1:20:21 AM] Koontas: it has shit we won't need yet
  3350. [6/15/2014 1:20:25 AM] Koontas: ie. exchange rates
  3351. [6/15/2014 1:21:48 AM] Barwizi: actually come to think of it, we can do PoS
  3352. [6/15/2014 1:21:56 AM] Barwizi: but it will be micro stake
  3353. [6/15/2014 1:22:13 AM] Barwizi: just to keep people intrested in keeping their nodes online
  3354. [6/15/2014 1:23:04 AM] Barwizi: the best codebase would either be a modified sha256 that doest work with ASICs
  3355. [6/15/2014 1:23:16 AM] Barwizi: or a NRS clone
  3356. [6/15/2014 1:23:43 AM] Barwizi: the biggest advantage of a clone of NRS is that yvg can get it merged mining in a matter of days
  3357. [6/15/2014 1:24:22 AM] Barwizi: the lotto must have 3 rewards
  3358. [6/15/2014 1:24:57 AM] Barwizi: ARg did you look at the part of momentum i asked you to look at?
  3359. [6/15/2014 1:25:14 AM] argakiig: i did
  3360. [6/15/2014 1:25:23 AM] argakiig: but it still didnt make any sense to me
  3361. [6/15/2014 1:25:31 AM] argakiig: i get the concept
  3362. [6/15/2014 1:25:43 AM] argakiig: but the implementation I am not sure how to work it
  3363. [6/15/2014 1:25:49 AM] Barwizi: that is the only real major change we need to make, ie from 2 extra variables, to maybe 4
  3364. [6/15/2014 1:26:11 AM] Barwizi: so a half difficuly reward would require 2/4
  3365. [6/15/2014 1:26:37 AM] Barwizi: the next 3/4 and the grand prizes are 4/4
  3366. [6/15/2014 1:26:53 AM] Barwizi: in the smae way that if you get 4 correct in a lotto you get a small amount
  3367. [6/15/2014 1:27:11 AM | Edited 1:27:18 AM] Barwizi: if you get 5 sorrect you get a larger amount and jackpot is 6 correct
  3368. [6/15/2014 1:28:09 AM] Barwizi: we just add the extra variables, then modify the "verify" function to have conditions, ie for each possible case
  3369. [6/15/2014 1:28:44 AM] Barwizi: basically nesting if statements in that function and the reward function
  3370. [6/15/2014 1:30:04 AM] Koontas: I think we should plan merge mining 2 weeks after launch, no earlier.
  3371. [6/15/2014 1:30:33 AM] Koontas: Get some mining attention on it rather than just having it added to what people are mining now...
  3372. [6/15/2014 1:41:44 AM] Barwizi: yup
  3373. [6/15/2014 1:42:01 AM] Barwizi: so do you prefer momentum or a mod of sha256
  3374. [6/15/2014 5:51:45 AM] Barwizi: this week we go to war
  3375. [6/15/2014 5:51:55 AM] Barwizi: Friday will have the alpha out
  3376. [6/15/2014 8:15:46 AM] Logan: If we are doing the Lotto, can we point the hash at a multipool and direct the revenue to a wallet we control?
  3377. [6/15/2014 8:16:11 AM] Logan: We could then pay out part of that as the winnings?
  3378. [6/15/2014 2:28:25 PM] Koontas: Barwizi, I'd say momentum unless you want to wait a couple weeks for me to get my new miners. (chuckle)
  3379. [6/15/2014 2:28:30 PM] Koontas: Pocket, you around?
  3380. [6/15/2014 3:46:05 PM] Pocket: In and out, sup
  3381. [6/15/2014 3:46:08 PM] Pocket: At church
  3382. [6/15/2014 3:46:28 PM] Pocket: Gonna be busy for the next two hours starting in 15 min
  3383. [6/15/2014 3:47:00 PM] Koontas: Just want to make sure you get caught up on NoirLotto sooner than later.
  3384. [6/15/2014 3:47:12 PM] Koontas: But do your thing man, it can wait.
  3385. [6/15/2014 3:47:37 PM] Pocket: I've been reading
  3386. [6/15/2014 3:48:24 PM] Pocket: I do need to get some tech info but I will try to build an infographic for this if I can
  3387. [6/15/2014 3:51:51 PM] Logan: Don't push payment until I am ready
  3388. [6/15/2014 3:53:04 PM] Koontas: waiting for you and arg to both confirm before sending logan
  3389. [6/15/2014 3:53:44 PM] Logan: Okay, sweet
  3390. [6/15/2014 4:21:41 PM] Koontas: If we could get our own NoirLotto Pool set up that would be ideal.
  3391. [6/15/2014 8:02:03 PM] argakiig: :/
  3392. [6/15/2014 8:02:07 PM] argakiig: miners are down again
  3393. [6/15/2014 9:38:18 PM] Barwizi: hello
  3394. [6/15/2014 9:39:36 PM] Barwizi: I need help making some decisions, after much consideration i have decided to use NRS as the codebase for NoirLotto
  3395. [6/15/2014 9:39:48 PM] Koontas: (y)
  3396. [6/15/2014 9:41:55 PM] Barwizi: we have three possible options on implementation, namely 1) Modification of momentum algorithm to simulate/exagerate conditions of "chance" 2) cook up a reward algorithm that doles out rewards in random blocks and 3) a combination of the two
  3397. [6/15/2014 9:42:41 PM] Barwizi: the modification of Momentum will mean there will be no gpu miner for a while
  3398. [6/15/2014 9:43:09 PM] Koontas: good
  3399. [6/15/2014 9:43:18 PM] Barwizi: the modification of reward algorithm will offset the difference between people with huge hash power and those with a single PC
  3400. [6/15/2014 9:44:07 PM] argakiig: i like the momentum
  3401. [6/15/2014 9:44:24 PM] argakiig: I would honestly like to keep it a cpu coin for a while
  3402. [6/15/2014 9:45:16 PM] argakiig: how is it possible to setup a reward algo that is truely random?
  3403. [6/15/2014 9:48:44 PM] Barwizi: it will be pseudo-random as no real random number grnerator exists
  3404. [6/15/2014 9:49:23 PM] Barwizi: anothe of my concerns is keeping people intrested, for that i have figured two options
  3405. [6/15/2014 9:51:23 PM] Barwizi: we could 1) have a micro mining reward awarded for solving blocks, this may keep a few mining, or 2) Do a snapshot, so that everyone starts with a little something while they wait on their luck
  3406. [6/15/2014 9:52:19 PM] Barwizi: I have only two areas of concern, 1) do we enable PoS, and 2) should we limit the money supply?
  3407. [6/15/2014 9:58:07 PM] Koontas: well, if we're going to merge mine it with NRS then no, no need for PoS
  3408. [6/15/2014 9:58:35 PM] Koontas: I don't think we should limit the money supply but the rewards shouldn't be ridiculous.
  3409. [6/15/2014 9:58:52 PM] Koontas: Logan, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the premine allocation.
  3410. [6/15/2014 10:00:32 PM] Logan: I would need to have a better idea of how the whole thing would work.
  3411. [6/15/2014 10:01:13 PM] Barwizi: basically all the technical stuff we are doing is to try and reduce the odds between a small miner and a farm
  3412. [6/15/2014 10:01:39 PM] Barwizi: to introduce a certain level of fairness and randomness
  3413. [6/15/2014 10:02:05 PM] Barwizi: so that basically all anyone has to do is fire up a wallet and let it mine
  3414. [6/15/2014 10:02:11 PM] Barwizi: even with one thread
  3415. [6/15/2014 10:02:51 PM] Koontas: how fast can we make the block time?
  3416. [6/15/2014 10:02:51 PM] Barwizi: so, if it finds a valid hash, depending on the reward algo, you may win or get a small amount
  3417. [6/15/2014 10:03:09 PM] Barwizi: blocktime for a lotto maust be "how slow"
  3418. [6/15/2014 10:03:50 PM] Koontas: i was thinking fast blocks, small reward, very random so a lot of people get rewarded often but with small, random amounts
  3419. [6/15/2014 10:04:19 PM] Barwizi: with that you run the risk of a series of fast high rewards
  3420. [6/15/2014 10:04:32 PM] Koontas: but, still random
  3421. [6/15/2014 10:04:36 PM] Logan: Well there has to be something at stake right?
  3422. [6/15/2014 10:04:45 PM] Barwizi: we'd have to craft it very expertly
  3423. [6/15/2014 10:05:41 PM] Barwizi: another concern of mine is whether we should destroy huge swathes of the money supply after the lotto
  3424. [6/15/2014 10:06:12 PM] Barwizi: if someone wins, as you know most lottos take a % ]
  3425. [6/15/2014 10:06:51 PM] Barwizi: how will the allocation be done?
  3426. [6/15/2014 10:07:06 PM] Barwizi: say we take 15% of all winnings
  3427. [6/15/2014 10:07:23 PM] Koontas: let's just make sure we're being reasonable
  3428. [6/15/2014 10:07:33 PM] Barwizi: that maintains us with roughly 15% of the blockchain
  3429. [6/15/2014 10:07:44 PM] Barwizi: lol, some lottos take 25%
  3430. [6/15/2014 10:07:50 PM] Barwizi: for "charity"
  3431. [6/15/2014 10:08:07 PM] Barwizi: anyway we are still discussing
  3432. [6/15/2014 10:08:30 PM] Koontas: (y)
  3433. [6/15/2014 10:08:52 PM] Barwizi: so say with that 15% i say 5% goes into company address, 5% to GF holders
  3434. [6/15/2014 10:09:11 PM] Koontas: It would be cool if we could take a % of that and do a weekly "super" lotto.
  3435. [6/15/2014 10:09:29 PM] Barwizi: ok, so let me revise
  3436. [6/15/2014 10:09:41 PM] Koontas: just throwin ideas out
  3437. [6/15/2014 10:10:17 PM] Barwizi: if we give GF holders only some coin in the genesis block, or send it to them
  3438. [6/15/2014 10:10:27 PM] Barwizi: we need not give them a %
  3439. [6/15/2014 10:10:46 PM] Barwizi: then we just say 10% of every winning goes into a "pot"
  3440. [6/15/2014 10:10:49 PM] Koontas: anything for NRS holders in general?
  3441. [6/15/2014 10:11:10 PM] Barwizi: that will be won , once a month, by playing real numbers
  3442. [6/15/2014 10:11:26 PM] Barwizi: Not sure how we can play that out
  3443. [6/15/2014 10:11:59 PM] Barwizi: unless we use the original metric i had stipulated
  3444. [6/15/2014 10:12:25 PM] Barwizi: say 10000 NRS = 1 NRT
  3445. [6/15/2014 10:13:27 PM] Logan: Well one thought is that people have to donate their hash to participate.
  3446. [6/15/2014 10:13:28 PM] Barwizi: at current rates each GF share is ~ 6 BTC
  3447. [6/15/2014 10:13:39 PM] Barwizi: which is 24000 NRS
  3448. [6/15/2014 10:13:54 PM] Logan: we then use that hash to harvest other coins and sell those.
  3449. [6/15/2014 10:14:40 PM] Barwizi: that means each GF share will equiv an additional 2.4 NRT
  3450. [6/15/2014 10:15:20 PM] Barwizi: so apart from your holdings, you will recieve additional tokens because you are a GF holder
  3451. [6/15/2014 10:16:11 PM] Barwizi: as for the "pot" and using people's hash we can combine the two if we can finally sort out the pool mess
  3452. [6/15/2014 10:17:03 PM] Barwizi: we need a merged-multi-pool, where by miners mine and earn while at the same time chancing for the Pot once a week
  3453. [6/15/2014 10:18:02 PM] Barwizi: ie, you become eligible if you have been mining on the pool for a total of 18*7 hours in a single week
  3454. [6/15/2014 10:18:44 PM] Barwizi: this taking into consideration power cuts and connection issues and the release of intresting coins, and grandma coming to see you etc
  3455. [6/15/2014 10:20:44 PM] Barwizi: micro block reward of 0.001 NRT
  3456. [6/15/2014 10:21:01 PM] Barwizi: with lotto blocks @ 100 NRT
  3457. [6/15/2014 10:22:24 PM] Barwizi: so first are we going to do a snapshot?
  3458. [6/15/2014 10:22:47 PM] Koontas: Yes.
  3459. [6/15/2014 10:23:04 PM] Koontas: Ultimately we should have a "whitepaper" when we announce the snapshot...
  3460. [6/15/2014 10:23:43 PM] Barwizi: i will draft one
  3461. [6/15/2014 10:24:04 PM] Barwizi: actually, no white paper
  3462. [6/15/2014 10:24:15 PM] Barwizi: these tend to be browsed and not read
  3463. [6/15/2014 10:24:25 PM] Barwizi: we need a new medium
  3464. [6/15/2014 10:24:26 PM] Koontas: I don't mean full whitepaper, just an explanation.
  3465. [6/15/2014 10:24:35 PM] Barwizi: oh, ok
  3466. [6/15/2014 10:25:01 PM] Koontas: who, what, where, when, why, how
  3467. [6/15/2014 10:25:13 PM] Barwizi: we need a NoirPaper
  3468. [6/16/2014 7:00:14 AM] Barwizi: Arg , we are gonna need that snapshot tool
  3469. [6/16/2014 9:44:40 AM] Pocket: NoirBets, LottoNoir, LuckyNoir, Noir in the Hole, NoirDDL, CasinoNoir, Noir of Fortune
  3470. [6/16/2014 10:03:09 AM] Pocket: NoirBooks
  3471. [6/16/2014 10:13:51 AM] Koontas: If we're getting into any sort of gambling I want to know right now.
  3472. [6/16/2014 10:15:57 AM] Pocket: there's two elements here as far as i'm aware, the mining aspect and the actual betting
  3473. [6/16/2014 10:16:06 AM] Pocket: mining is still kinda gambling according to bar, which i agree
  3474. [6/16/2014 10:16:24 AM] Pocket: but i think we're stuck between wagers and lotteries
  3475. [6/16/2014 10:16:37 AM] Barwizi: the betting is still in discussion but the NoirLotto is a go
  3476. [6/16/2014 10:16:41 AM] Koontas: Anything that is considered "gambling" in the US I will not be involved in...
  3477. [6/16/2014 10:16:54 AM] Koontas: Mining is not gambling in the US.
  3478. [6/16/2014 10:17:02 AM] Pocket: but mining "is" gambling
  3479. [6/16/2014 10:17:08 AM] Barwizi: hehehehe
  3480. [6/16/2014 10:17:13 AM] Koontas: I'm talking technically pocket.
  3481. [6/16/2014 10:17:14 AM] Barwizi: dont you just love that
  3482. [6/16/2014 10:17:30 AM] Pocket: you mean legally speaking
  3483. [6/16/2014 10:17:33 AM] Koontas: Yes.
  3484. [6/16/2014 10:17:39 AM] Pocket: if we call mining "gambling" in our descriptions, then it will be regulated as such
  3485. [6/16/2014 10:18:07 AM] Barwizi: it's called noir lotto
  3486. [6/16/2014 10:18:13 AM] Barwizi: more of "luck" than gambling
  3487. [6/16/2014 10:18:14 AM] Pocket: but if we say mining via our algo is intended for chaotic number generation and block assignment then it would be ignored
  3488. [6/16/2014 10:18:23 AM] Koontas: If it's a grey area, I want to avoid it. Too much sniffing around in this space right now.
  3489. [6/16/2014 10:18:31 AM] Pocket: basically we can't market it as gambling
  3490. [6/16/2014 10:18:34 AM] Pocket: even though it is
  3491. [6/16/2014 10:18:42 AM] Barwizi: try marketing " chaotic # generation "
  3492. [6/16/2014 10:18:42 AM] Koontas: I'd advise the group to do the same.
  3493. [6/16/2014 10:18:50 AM] Pocket: lol right?
  3494. [6/16/2014 10:19:00 AM] Pocket: that's the whole premise for the guys like entropybits or whatever
  3495. [6/16/2014 10:19:08 AM] Pocket: hey look at us, our algos are random
  3496. [6/16/2014 10:19:15 AM] Pocket: you put one and one together to decide if it's gambling or not
  3497. [6/16/2014 10:19:38 AM] argakiig: link?
  3498. [6/16/2014 10:21:14 AM] Pocket: entropycoin i mean
  3499. [6/16/2014 10:21:47 AM] Pocket: they don't say anything about random number generation in their announce, but the word entropy implies it
  3500. [6/16/2014 10:21:50 AM] Barwizi: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxCtiOzdwvPyU2tIMGdpeUNqQ3c/edit?usp=sharing
  3501. [6/16/2014 10:27:51 AM] Koontas: I'm begging you guys...stop using the term "gambling"...
  3502. [6/16/2014 10:28:38 AM] Pocket: lol
  3503. [6/16/2014 10:28:41 AM] Pocket: agreed
  3504. [6/16/2014 10:28:51 AM] Pocket: i'm gonna start saying fate instead
  3505. [6/16/2014 11:11:26 AM] Pocket: you'd think that a coin like burnercoin would use their name to its full effect and do the IPO POB attack thing
  3506. [6/16/2014 12:00:57 PM] Koontas: pocket what did you email GF members? i didnt get anything
  3507. [6/16/2014 12:01:41 PM] Pocket: invitation to skype chat
  3508. [6/16/2014 12:01:50 PM] Pocket: dunno how many missed the invite
  3509. [6/16/2014 12:02:02 PM] Koontas: ah ok
  3510. [6/16/2014 12:51:24 PM] Pocket: are we really gonna lotto
  3511. [6/16/2014 12:51:31 PM] Pocket: we need lawyers lol
  3512. [6/16/2014 12:52:07 PM] Barwizi: for the QT we dont need lawyers
  3513. [6/16/2014 1:56:12 PM] Koontas: I hope this helps with the price a little bit...support has dwindled...
  3514. [6/16/2014 8:56:27 PM] Pocket: went to another tech mixer today
  3515. [6/16/2014 8:56:33 PM] Pocket: orange county ca
  3516. [6/16/2014 8:56:42 PM] Pocket: there was an older gentleman, maybe 60
  3517. [6/16/2014 8:57:04 PM] Pocket: no college degree, no real skills, but he was announcing to everyone that he had the solution to USA's unemployment
  3518. [6/16/2014 8:57:19 PM] Koontas: communism?
  3519. [6/16/2014 8:57:22 PM] Pocket: well
  3520. [6/16/2014 8:57:31 PM] Pocket: he's creating an internet documentary/live show
  3521. [6/16/2014 8:57:35 PM] Pocket: with these claims
  3522. [6/16/2014 8:57:49 PM] Pocket: he was explaining to us at the mixer so that we'd be able to jump in first lol
  3523. [6/16/2014 8:58:00 PM] Pocket: basically his concept is something along the lines of "America's Corporation:
  3524. [6/16/2014 8:58:02 PM] Koontas: lucky you, how much did it cost?
  3525. [6/16/2014 8:58:05 PM] Pocket: anyone and everyone can join.
  3526. [6/16/2014 8:58:15 PM] Pocket: make your own work.
  3527. [6/16/2014 8:58:46 PM] Pocket: to a certain point, I can see what he's getting at.
  3528. [6/16/2014 8:59:23 PM] Pocket: i replied to an interested party today via email
  3529. [6/16/2014 8:59:33 PM] Pocket: Hi Ryan,
  3530. NRS is an interesting concept in many ways, we are pushing the boundaries of business using technology. What would you say is your most effective skill? Your enthusiasm has brought you to an interesting place and opportunities are everywhere. There are set positions available, but many of us create our own work. Most importantly, what would you like to do? We look forward to hearing from you!
  3531.  
  3532. hyz
  3533.  
  3534. On 6/16/2014 6:16 PM, Ryan Watton wrote:
  3535. > Hey...saw that you were looking for help on this front in the bitcointalk ANN. I definitely count as an enthusiast for NRS and only wish I had taken action when I first saw the thread posted (I remember and think it will haunt me for the rest of my life that I didn't jump on the opportunity but that is one of those things...).
  3536. >
  3537. > At any rate, I would like to help. What can I do? Anything I need to describe about myself? I'm relatively new to the crypto community but well versed on how to interwbz. Your time is appreciated!
  3538. >
  3539. > Ryan
  3540. [6/16/2014 10:40:12 PM] Pocket: Well, this is where I may or may not be suitable. I am a Psych major and am able to mediate discussion content and provide context to any given dialogue. I was a discussion moderator on a forum an alternative news forum for five years. Other than that, I really am just an enthusiast...
  3541.  
  3542. It's relevant that I mentioned that I am new to the crypto community; my technical knowledge is next to nothing. That is where a lot of the valid communication occurs within the bitcointalk threads I have been a part of. However, translating the technical jargon into layman's terms is something that I can do and that is something that might be an important aspect as the crypto community grows into mainstream.
  3543.  
  3544. I love Noirshares as a concept and before I started tracking bitcointalk threads I had already invested in the Maidsafe IPO the minute it went live. So when I saw that you guys were talking with them I got a bit excited as I have been reading their forums and have been informing people around me about what they are doing...which includes some social media involvement on contextual news stories.
  3545.  
  3546. Admittedly, I may not have any experience that would be relevant for you guys and that is cool. I always figure that simple communication never hurts anything and at the very least, I am pleased that you replied and will certainly watch and support you guys on my own time.
  3547.  
  3548. Have a great evening and I appreciate your taking the time to interact...
  3549.  
  3550. Ryan
  3551. [6/16/2014 10:45:26 PM] Logan: I am not reading that wall
  3552. [6/16/2014 10:45:45 PM] Pocket: you'll find the time
  3553. [6/17/2014 7:28:00 AM] Barwizi: Arg your title shall nw be CDO, CTO goes back in the closet
  3554. [6/17/2014 7:28:40 AM] Barwizi: after phase 1 of NoirLotto, i would like us to revise the charting documents to make them closer to reality
  3555. [6/17/2014 7:28:46 AM] Barwizi: please let us find the time
  3556. [6/17/2014 5:58:04 PM] Koontas: FYI - we have 1268 NRS to distribute when ready.
  3557. [6/17/2014 6:10:14 PM] Logan: Okay, I will update the distribution worksheet tonight
  3558. [6/17/2014 6:16:17 PM] Barwizi: i will push the code changes to stop PoW
  3559. [6/17/2014 6:16:30 PM] Barwizi: on NRS
  3560. [6/17/2014 6:17:38 PM] Barwizi: i believe block 60000 will be the last
  3561. [6/17/2014 6:18:11 PM] Barwizi: resulting in NRS going into a pure PoS phase
  3562. [6/17/2014 6:18:15 PM] Koontas: why not 50000?
  3563. [6/17/2014 6:18:30 PM] Barwizi: 50000 is 3000 blocks away
  3564. [6/17/2014 6:18:33 PM] Koontas: yea
  3565. [6/17/2014 6:18:35 PM] Koontas: i know
  3566. [6/17/2014 6:18:39 PM] Barwizi: ok, i guess it can do
  3567. [6/17/2014 6:18:52 PM] Barwizi: we'll need some real PR on this
  3568. [6/17/2014 6:19:02 PM] Koontas: pocket is your man!
  3569. [6/17/2014 6:19:56 PM] Barwizi: on another note, with the help of an outside developer, i have nearly completed crafting the NoirLotto reward code
  3570. [6/17/2014 6:20:14 PM] Koontas: wow
  3571. [6/17/2014 6:21:23 PM] Barwizi: tommorrow we will begin modifying momentum to make the odds even worse, although i just want to point out that this may make it extremely hard to get even the micro blocks
  3572. [6/17/2014 6:21:26 PM] Barwizi: hehehehe
  3573. [6/17/2014 6:22:56 PM] Barwizi: Please keep in mind that the modifications being made to Momentum for NoirLotto are a pre-cursor to the "merged" chain i have proposed and the Noirlotto platform will act as a alpha for what we eventually intend to implement with our merged wallet
  3574. [6/17/2014 6:24:20 PM] Barwizi: we need to decide on the house %
  3575. [6/17/2014 6:27:19 PM] Barwizi: once i push the mods, in the next two hours, i'll need Pocket to make the announce and we'll need new windows and mac walles built
  3576. [6/17/2014 6:32:12 PM] Pocket: We announcing today?
  3577. [6/17/2014 6:32:49 PM] Logan: No, I don't think we really even know what we are announcing.
  3578. [6/17/2014 6:33:03 PM] Pocket: (y)
  3579. [6/17/2014 6:41:58 PM] Barwizi: actually, at this rate you are announcing in a few hours
  3580. [6/17/2014 6:42:14 PM] Barwizi: i'm nearly done modfying NRS to go pure PoS
  3581. [6/17/2014 6:50:46 PM] Logan: Okay, I have updated the distribution worksheet so if Argakiig is ready, we can try out a distribution.
  3582. [6/17/2014 6:50:58 PM] argakiig: do it
  3583. [6/17/2014 6:51:17 PM] Koontas: what's the site?
  3584. [6/17/2014 6:51:31 PM] Logan: Arga- you removed the buttons, no?
  3585. [6/17/2014 6:51:46 PM] Logan: http://ng.argakiig.us/test.php
  3586. [6/17/2014 6:52:11 PM] Koontas: alllllright, here she goes
  3587. [6/17/2014 6:53:45 PM] Pocket: So awesome
  3588. [6/17/2014 6:53:47 PM] argakiig: nope
  3589. [6/17/2014 6:53:56 PM] argakiig: if there are less than 500nrs no buttons
  3590. [6/17/2014 6:54:28 PM] Logan: good thinking
  3591. [6/17/2014 6:56:57 PM] Barwizi: changes are syncing to the git
  3592. [6/17/2014 7:02:26 PM] Barwizi: done, Arg, if you can, please verify my changes
  3593. [6/17/2014 7:06:49 PM] argakiig: looks good will build windows and check it
  3594. [6/17/2014 7:07:07 PM] Barwizi: great thanks
  3595. [6/17/2014 7:07:31 PM] Barwizi: since i cant sleep, i'm moving on to Noirlotto again
  3596. [6/17/2014 7:07:40 PM] Barwizi: i'll be online till i pass out
  3597. [6/17/2014 7:07:50 PM] Barwizi: if you need anything, just holla
  3598. [6/17/2014 7:08:56 PM] Logan: Koontas, Arga. Hold off on pushing the button, one sec.
  3599. [6/17/2014 7:09:37 PM] argakiig: this seems to be a good method
  3600. [6/17/2014 7:09:41 PM] argakiig: 3 checks :P
  3601. [6/17/2014 7:14:42 PM] Logan: Okay. It is ready to go. Arga, do you want to push the button?
  3602. [6/17/2014 7:14:57 PM] argakiig: button is gone
  3603. [6/17/2014 7:15:02 PM] argakiig: i will run payouts
  3604. [6/17/2014 7:15:10 PM] Logan: Sounds great
  3605. [6/17/2014 7:17:58 PM] Logan: Received it
  3606. [6/17/2014 7:18:04 PM] Logan: Beautiful
  3607. [6/17/2014 7:18:05 PM] argakiig: ran :P
  3608. [6/17/2014 7:18:08 PM] argakiig: txid "b0a6160da68f9fcc04cdd80646abfd9780da9a808f6fa9730a131209feb6a12c"
  3609. [6/17/2014 7:18:36 PM] Pocket: interesting, does it use the same txid for every split payment
  3610. [6/17/2014 7:18:47 PM] argakiig: yes
  3611. [6/17/2014 7:18:52 PM] argakiig: well use txid for everyone
  3612. [6/17/2014 7:18:55 PM] argakiig: its sendmany
  3613. [6/17/2014 7:19:07 PM] argakiig: its a wonderful thing
  3614. [6/17/2014 7:53:49 PM] Pocket: are we going to update the pool with the new chain and such?
  3615. [6/17/2014 11:28:56 PM] Logan: [Tuesday, June 17, 2014 11:27 PM] bo zhou:
  3616.  
  3617. <<< i found that the wallet have to open if you want get more stakes
  3618. [6/18/2014 12:08:13 AM] Barwizi: 4790 sent to each officer
  3619. [6/18/2014 12:08:16 AM] Barwizi: more to come
  3620. [6/18/2014 12:08:33 AM] Barwizi: not going home yet ;(
  3621. [6/18/2014 12:08:48 AM] Barwizi: but someone was kind enough to bring my laptop
  3622. [6/18/2014 1:06:08 AM] Barwizi: I need NoirLotto Images
  3623. [6/18/2014 1:06:11 AM] Barwizi: icons
  3624. [6/18/2014 6:58:28 AM] Barwizi: no confirmation of recieved part of payments?
  3625. [6/18/2014 7:40:22 AM] Logan: Yeah, I got it. Thanks for making it.
  3626. [6/18/2014 8:01:12 AM] Koontas: Confirmed, thanks Bar.
  3627. [6/18/2014 9:08:18 AM] Pocket: got mine too, thanks
  3628. [6/18/2014 9:09:03 AM] Pocket: icons were all made by cass, I don't have the original asset files or vectors
  3629. [6/18/2014 9:09:19 AM] Pocket: i will try to get from him
  3630. [6/18/2014 9:09:44 AM] Pocket: and maybe magic something together
  3631. [6/18/2014 9:24:00 AM] Barwizi: No i need ones specific to NoirLotto
  3632. [6/18/2014 9:24:55 AM] Barwizi: to keep in line with Logan and Koontas advice about how gambling laws are in your backward countries (rofl)
  3633. [6/18/2014 9:25:08 AM] Barwizi: i have tentatively named it NoirTokens
  3634. [6/18/2014 9:28:15 AM] Pocket: (y)
  3635. [6/18/2014 9:29:58 AM] Barwizi: only just got home, so excited to get to coding, last night i met a new dev who knows his c++
  3636. [6/18/2014 9:30:20 AM] Barwizi: if you look at the git, go on NRS then change branch to NoirLotto
  3637. [6/18/2014 9:30:29 AM] Barwizi: you'll see how much activity there has been
  3638. [6/18/2014 9:31:12 AM] Barwizi: we are gonna do it again tonight and everynight, if we dont get tired, we are planning to start on NoirHub if all goes well
  3639. [6/18/2014 9:31:29 AM] Barwizi: NoirHub is the project name for NoirSpace + the merged wallet
  3640. [6/18/2014 9:31:55 AM] Barwizi: apparently there are plugins that allow direct interaction with FB , twitter and instagram
  3641. [6/18/2014 9:32:25 AM] Pocket: What? How fb and instagram
  3642. [6/18/2014 9:33:07 AM] Barwizi: i was just told about it yesterday, i want to reseach them in a few hours
  3643. [6/18/2014 10:33:54 AM] Koontas: when are we announcing cutoff of PoW?
  3644. [6/18/2014 10:36:22 AM] Logan: I think that Arga is still reviewing
  3645. [6/18/2014 10:36:47 AM] Barwizi: i promised pocket a few words on it
  3646. [6/18/2014 10:36:54 AM] Barwizi: got caught up with code i forgot
  3647. [6/18/2014 10:36:59 AM] Barwizi: i'll do it now
  3648. [6/18/2014 10:44:13 AM] argakiig: its good i just need to finish building it
  3649. [6/18/2014 10:48:15 AM] Pocket: is NRTolkiens gonna be done with a snapshot
  3650. [6/18/2014 10:48:46 AM] Barwizi: that is a huge issue that i have been contemplating
  3651. [6/18/2014 10:49:01 AM] Barwizi: due to it's lottery nature it seems rather dubious
  3652. [6/18/2014 10:49:26 AM] Barwizi: perhaps we should have an officer vote on it
  3653. [6/18/2014 10:49:42 AM] Pocket: or a gen fund vote?
  3654. [6/18/2014 10:50:02 AM] Barwizi: obviously a snapshot means ordinary NRS holders will be happy, but then we run the risk of having too much money in circulation
  3655. [6/18/2014 10:50:22 AM] Barwizi: yeah
  3656. [6/18/2014 10:50:43 AM] Koontas: I think it would be a good idea to give NRS holders a very SMALL amount, if anything it'll get them interested.
  3657. [6/18/2014 10:50:45 AM] Barwizi: anything so long as it is not just my executive decision
  3658. [6/18/2014 10:51:03 AM] Barwizi: but how to scale that little bit?
  3659. [6/18/2014 10:51:21 AM] Koontas: we dont have a max money supply do we?
  3660. [6/18/2014 10:51:39 AM] Barwizi: no, with a lottery that wont work
  3661. [6/18/2014 10:51:57 AM] Koontas: what is the max reward?
  3662. [6/18/2014 10:52:09 AM] Barwizi: i have opted for 100 NRT
  3663. [6/18/2014 10:52:29 AM] Barwizi: with micro rewards of 0.01 NRT for the unlucky blocks
  3664. [6/18/2014 10:52:32 AM] Koontas: what if we do 3k NRT for the snapshot?
  3665. [6/18/2014 10:52:58 AM] Barwizi: then divvy it up between al NRS holders?
  3666. [6/18/2014 10:53:04 AM] Barwizi: that will be a lot of math
  3667. [6/18/2014 10:53:17 AM] Koontas: yes
  3668. [6/18/2014 10:53:25 AM] Barwizi: maybe arg can write a small cron that will do it
  3669. [6/18/2014 10:53:54 AM] Barwizi: because basically we'll be saying 2.3 mill NRS == 3k NRT
  3670. [6/18/2014 10:55:18 AM] Barwizi: 1 NRT = 766 NRS
  3671. [6/18/2014 10:55:36 AM] Pocket: how about calling them NoirChips or NoirBlocks instead of Tokens, since the available supply is lower and should be considered more rare, and making it like 2.3k or 23k NoirBlocks or Chips
  3672. [6/18/2014 10:56:37 AM] Pocket: like 1000/1
  3673. [6/18/2014 10:57:18 AM] Pocket: or 100/1
  3674. [6/18/2014 10:57:45 AM] Barwizi: the chain style doesnt work with limits
  3675. [6/18/2014 10:58:11 AM] Barwizi: we're planning on roughly 1 jackpot block per week
  3676. [6/18/2014 10:58:47 AM] Barwizi: so you can imagine, in a year only ~ 5200 coins produced via jackpot
  3677. [6/18/2014 10:59:00 AM] Koontas: Just so i'm clear, we are not asking for additional funding for this, correct?
  3678. [6/18/2014 10:59:43 AM] Barwizi: the dev who is helping me has agreed to be paid after launch, it gives him incentive to make the algos sound and fluid
  3679. [6/18/2014 11:00:09 AM] Barwizi: we need to agree on % that goes to the house, i had stated 15%
  3680. [6/18/2014 11:00:27 AM] Koontas: 2%
  3681. [6/18/2014 11:00:31 AM] Barwizi: ie every jackpot winner gives 15 coins to the company and retains 85
  3682. [6/18/2014 11:00:39 AM] Koontas: thats absolutley INSANE
  3683. [6/18/2014 11:00:41 AM] Barwizi: 2% is way too small
  3684. [6/18/2014 11:00:47 AM] Pocket: well....USA income taxes is like...30%
  3685. [6/18/2014 11:00:49 AM] Pocket: lol
  3686. [6/18/2014 11:01:40 AM] Pocket: in crypto the funds don't get diluted around the zombie establishment, so you get more for your money while you're at it
  3687. [6/18/2014 11:03:26 AM] Koontas: I would say 5% max. Any more than that and it would be shunned.
  3688. [6/18/2014 1:38:17 PM] Koontas: Bar, probably not a good idea to tell people you've dumped 130k NRS...
  3689. [6/18/2014 1:39:54 PM] argakiig: ^
  3690. [6/18/2014 1:41:38 PM] Barwizi: oh
  3691. [6/18/2014 1:42:01 PM] Barwizi: didnt know someone was an avid follower of my address
  3692. [6/18/2014 1:42:10 PM] Koontas: you said it in the other chat...
  3693. [6/18/2014 1:42:24 PM] Koontas: chocobo knew you had 190k somehow...
  3694. [6/18/2014 1:44:29 PM] Barwizi: thats what i mean, i dont klnow how he knew how much i had before
  3695. [6/18/2014 1:44:45 PM] Koontas: yea
  3696. [6/18/2014 1:45:42 PM] Koontas: That selling also really fucking hurt the price...just my $.02...
  3697. [6/18/2014 1:45:56 PM] Barwizi: no it didnt
  3698. [6/18/2014 1:46:02 PM] Koontas: oh come on
  3699. [6/18/2014 1:46:14 PM] Barwizi: when i was selling the price was going up
  3700. [6/18/2014 1:46:14 PM] Koontas: that's over 40btc at current prices
  3701. [6/18/2014 1:46:30 PM] Barwizi: and it stayed up for long afterwards
  3702. [6/18/2014 1:46:32 PM] Pocket: well, paired with grnd getting hacked and other things, we survived pretty ok lol
  3703. [6/18/2014 1:47:03 PM] Koontas: alright, well good to know nobody else has a problem selling their NRS...I won't feel so bad when I decide to...
  3704. [6/18/2014 1:47:03 PM] Barwizi: would you like a screenshot as proof?
  3705. [6/18/2014 1:47:07 PM] Koontas: no i wouldnt
  3706. [6/18/2014 1:47:37 PM] Barwizi: where was i supposed to just get money?
  3707. [6/18/2014 1:47:50 PM] Barwizi: i had things to take care off
  3708. [6/18/2014 1:48:03 PM] Koontas: That's fine, I get it. Gotta dump the premine at some point...
  3709. [6/18/2014 1:48:20 PM] Barwizi: i wont aologise for events in my life
  3710. [6/18/2014 1:48:25 PM] Koontas: Not asking you to.
  3711. [6/18/2014 1:48:33 PM] Barwizi: yeah, whatever
  3712. [6/18/2014 1:48:40 PM] Koontas: Just saying putting 130k NRS for sale does not help the price...
  3713. [6/18/2014 1:48:55 PM] Barwizi: just how long do you think it took to sell it?
  3714. [6/18/2014 1:49:26 PM] Koontas: That's not the point. The point is that you were constantly placing sell orders which drives the price down...
  3715. [6/18/2014 1:49:35 PM] Koontas: And right now, we have NOTHING to help the price...
  3716. [6/18/2014 1:49:37 PM] Barwizi: you are running off on your own tangent, let me remind you there was a point when that was the daily volume
  3717. [6/18/2014 1:49:46 PM] Koontas: there is no volume.
  3718. [6/18/2014 1:49:58 PM] Barwizi: for nearly two weeks
  3719. [6/18/2014 1:50:00 PM] Koontas: there's little to no interest right now, most orders are sell orders...
  3720. [6/18/2014 1:50:21 PM] Barwizi: Koontas, is my job to maintain volume?
  3721. [6/18/2014 1:50:26 PM] Koontas: I've been asking for something to help NRS for ages now...and we come up with a project that has nothign to do with NRS?
  3722. [6/18/2014 1:50:29 PM] Barwizi: is my job to develop?
  3723. [6/18/2014 1:50:30 PM | Edited 1:50:38 PM] Koontas: No it's pockets job...
  3724. [6/18/2014 1:50:37 PM] Barwizi: is my job to innovate?
  3725. [6/18/2014 1:50:38 PM] Pocket: i need material to promote..
  3726. [6/18/2014 1:50:43 PM] Koontas: exactly pocket
  3727. [6/18/2014 1:51:07 PM] Barwizi: i am innovating and developing, may i ask what you are doing?
  3728. [6/18/2014 1:51:20 PM] Koontas: you SAY you're innovating and developing, we haven't seen shit...
  3729. [6/18/2014 1:51:34 PM] Koontas: I can't do shit because I have no clue what the fuck is going on because it changes HOURLY.
  3730. [6/18/2014 1:51:49 PM] Koontas: Tell me that is not true.
  3731. [6/18/2014 1:51:51 PM] Pocket: there isn't much choice in this arena, we can only wait for the devs
  3732. [6/18/2014 1:51:55 PM] Koontas: I have no clue what the fuck is going on.
  3733. [6/18/2014 1:52:01 PM] Koontas: And yes, I am angry.
  3734. [6/18/2014 1:52:14 PM] Koontas: Because once again this is an unorganized shit show.
  3735. [6/18/2014 1:52:26 PM] Barwizi: well, ask those who look at the git, i'm sure they tell you that in a few short hours i modded the NRS code to move to PoS already and in the same night, i made the Noirlotto template
  3736. [6/18/2014 1:52:36 PM] Koontas: Write fucking specs THEN develop. Do develop off a whim, that's fucking stupid...
  3737. [6/18/2014 1:52:42 PM] Barwizi: it's unorganized to you
  3738. [6/18/2014 1:52:57 PM] Koontas: Well if it's organized to you then you aren't communicating to the rest of the group.
  3739. [6/18/2014 1:53:23 PM] Barwizi: to me it is clear as day, i submitted code, and asked arg to look at it. when he is good and ready he will make a build on windows and confirm
  3740. [6/18/2014 1:53:50 PM] Koontas: nobody gives two shits about cutting off pos...that's not new and innovative...
  3741. [6/18/2014 1:53:50 PM] Barwizi: then we will make it available to pocket
  3742. [6/18/2014 1:53:56 PM] Koontas: in fact, it's going to drive the price down
  3743. [6/18/2014 1:54:00 PM] Koontas: because nobody will be interested
  3744. [6/18/2014 1:54:17 PM] Pocket: i think it's fine, we can end mining because everyone who wanted to get in on the mining has done so by now
  3745. [6/18/2014 1:54:33 PM] Koontas: then what?
  3746. [6/18/2014 1:54:36 PM] Pocket: stake will increase supply
  3747. [6/18/2014 1:54:47 PM] Pocket: software releases will generate market buzz
  3748. [6/18/2014 1:54:49 PM] Barwizi: now i am working on NRT, and i will only say something when i hit a major milestone, else, as an officer you have access to all th e repos on github, ie, you can check on progress yourself without need for hand holding
  3749. [6/18/2014 1:54:55 PM] Koontas: yea, software releases....
  3750. [6/18/2014 1:55:09 PM] Pocket: lol, what else can we do koontas
  3751. [6/18/2014 1:55:14 PM] Koontas: hope and pray
  3752. [6/18/2014 1:55:23 PM] Pocket: bar and yvg and arga doing their best
  3753. [6/18/2014 1:55:27 PM] Pocket: no reason not to
  3754. [6/18/2014 1:55:35 PM] Koontas: yvg is doing nothing
  3755. [6/18/2014 1:56:57 PM] Pocket: well, same point stands, all crypto communities rely very heavily on their software devs
  3756. [6/18/2014 1:57:15 PM] Pocket: noir hub is a great big step, and i hope we get there sooner than later
  3757. [6/18/2014 1:57:21 PM] Barwizi: there was talk of blowing a lot of hot steam up people's asses, now that the talk is over and work is actually being done, in the middle of the night you should note, i still have you complaining
  3758. [6/18/2014 1:57:36 PM] Koontas: show me the fucking money.
  3759. [6/18/2014 1:57:58 PM] Pocket: i guess looking at the git is as close to that as you're gonna get
  3760. [6/18/2014 1:58:07 PM] Barwizi: just simply making sure that these two will be online ontime is taking a toll on my mind, i really don't need much else
  3761. [6/18/2014 1:58:29 PM] Barwizi: unless you want to get up and join the developing team
  3762. [6/18/2014 1:58:40 PM] Pocket: but koontas' sense of urgency is important
  3763. [6/18/2014 1:59:17 PM] Pocket: i think we are moving on a decent schedule
  3764. [6/18/2014 1:59:20 PM] Koontas: Things are just adding up...half salary...bar selling 130k...NRS price declining...nothing released for months...
  3765. [6/18/2014 1:59:29 PM] Koontas: Pocket, compared to other groups we're moving at a snails pace.
  3766. [6/18/2014 1:59:50 PM] Pocket: in terms of actual dev yes we are moving slowly, but i think the forward thinking concepts will make us rocket past the other groups
  3767. [6/18/2014 1:59:56 PM] Pocket: once the dev is complete
  3768. [6/18/2014 2:00:41 PM] Pocket: software to help me manage my altcoin headache? one multiwallet that does all the staking and such? offline OK? etc
  3769. [6/18/2014 2:00:56 PM] Pocket: people will start to see the real benefit there
  3770. [6/18/2014 2:01:40 PM] Pocket: SC wallet as a base, plus bar's new stacking chain, plus multi wallet, plus +++
  3771. [6/18/2014 2:03:31 PM] Pocket: plus DACs that pay dividends, stake that pays like interest, stocks that spend like cash, so much to love
  3772. [6/18/2014 2:03:38 PM] Barwizi: i pushed a new codebase, then updated the current one, and am pushin Noirlotto in the last two weeks
  3773. [6/18/2014 2:03:53 PM] Koontas: that's all just a dream right now...
  3774. [6/18/2014 2:04:13 PM] Barwizi: so yes, please do tell me, what more can i do?
  3775. [6/18/2014 2:04:42 PM] Barwizi: maybe i should quit my daily job?
  3776. [6/18/2014 2:05:01 PM] Barwizi: sell my kid maybe?
  3777. [6/18/2014 2:05:14 PM] Koontas: Don't worry about it...
  3778. [6/18/2014 2:05:22 PM] Barwizi: i've provided two options, pick one and run with it
  3779. [6/18/2014 2:05:33 PM] Barwizi: either you go for the new codebase
  3780. [6/18/2014 2:05:47 PM] Barwizi: or you go with the updted NRS that cuts PoW
  3781. [6/18/2014 2:06:24 PM] Barwizi: in the mean time, can i get back to work before you discourage me?
  3782. [6/18/2014 2:06:35 PM] Barwizi: and i was in such good spirits
  3783. [6/18/2014 2:06:36 PM] Koontas: Have at it, I'm not saying anything more about it.
  3784. [6/18/2014 2:06:54 PM] Pocket: it's koontas's job bar, remember
  3785. [6/18/2014 2:07:28 PM] Pocket: lol
  3786. [6/18/2014 2:07:29 PM] Koontas: It's fine Pocket, I'll be the angry asshole all the time...
  3787. [6/18/2014 2:07:49 PM] Koontas: As long as shit gets done you guys can think I'm the biggest fuck in the world...
  3788. [6/18/2014 2:08:00 PM] Pocket: well, how about both
  3789. [6/18/2014 2:08:01 PM] Pocket: ;)
  3790. [6/18/2014 2:08:12 PM] Koontas: that works too
  3791. [6/18/2014 2:08:15 PM] Pocket: haha
  3792. [6/18/2014 2:09:03 PM] Pocket: COO = chief ...overbearing...officer..
  3793. [6/18/2014 2:09:08 PM] Pocket: or something
  3794. [6/18/2014 2:09:57 PM] Barwizi: i understand frustration
  3795. [6/18/2014 2:10:23 PM] Barwizi: it's just that i have it too, plus anxiety issues
  3796. [6/18/2014 2:12:02 PM] Barwizi: soon enough
  3797. [6/18/2014 2:12:27 PM] Barwizi: ah. tell you what, can i have some workable icons for NRT ?
  3798. [6/18/2014 2:15:49 PM] Pocket: cass not responding, what exactly do you need
  3799. [6/18/2014 2:26:46 PM] Barwizi: i'll try him
  3800. [6/18/2014 2:27:31 PM] Pocket: i asked him for vector files, haven't heard back yet
  3801. [6/18/2014 2:43:08 PM] Barwizi: pocket should i leave the PoS move to you and arg, seeing as i have already completed my part and we just need a windows build to make it official?
  3802. [6/18/2014 2:46:34 PM] Koontas: I want the "postmine" set to 5% and a published breakdown of how the 5% will be allocated (Logan I'll leave that to you).
  3803. [6/18/2014 2:46:51 PM] Koontas: Barwizi how much are we paying this other dev?
  3804. [6/18/2014 2:47:28 PM] Barwizi: i'm hoping he wont remain "the other dev" for long
  3805. [6/18/2014 2:47:40 PM] Barwizi: i hav propositioned him to join the group
  3806. [6/18/2014 2:47:51 PM] Koontas: Who is it?
  3807. [6/18/2014 2:48:15 PM] Barwizi: lol, i'll tell you privately
  3808. [6/18/2014 2:48:25 PM] Koontas: Ok
  3809. [6/18/2014 2:49:31 PM] Barwizi: the dev charge was 3.5 BTC
  3810. [6/18/2014 3:01:07 PM] Koontas: Bar, what do you think about making the big lotto ~1/week rather than ~1/month?
  3811. [6/18/2014 3:01:50 PM] Barwizi: lol, already figured that out
  3812. [6/18/2014 3:01:56 PM] Koontas: ok
  3813. [6/18/2014 3:02:03 PM] Barwizi: we are reworking the specs
  3814. [6/18/2014 3:02:14 PM] Koontas: (y)
  3815. [6/18/2014 3:03:17 PM] Barwizi: here's the current reward structure
  3816. [6/18/2014 3:03:40 PM] Barwizi: micro rewards vary in the range 0.01-0.03
  3817. [6/18/2014 3:04:07 PM] Barwizi: then weekly jackpot is in the range 100-150
  3818. [6/18/2014 3:04:41 PM] Koontas: we should avoid the term "jackpot" pocket (ie. jackpotcoin)
  3819. [6/18/2014 3:05:06 PM] Barwizi: we need a word
  3820. [6/18/2014 3:05:15 PM] Koontas: ill find one
  3821. [6/18/2014 3:05:16 PM] Barwizi: yes, jackpot wont work
  3822. [6/18/2014 3:06:31 PM] Koontas: let's call it the "kitty" (cat)
  3823. [6/18/2014 3:06:41 PM] Koontas: lol apparently that's another word for jackpot
  3824. [6/18/2014 3:18:04 PM] Pocket: Lol really
  3825. [6/18/2014 3:18:15 PM] Koontas: yup
  3826. [6/18/2014 3:18:42 PM] Pocket: Can call it a gift?
  3827. [6/18/2014 3:36:54 PM] Barwizi: well?
  3828. [6/18/2014 3:37:05 PM] Barwizi: Arg?
  3829. [6/18/2014 4:25:34 PM] argakiig: yes?
  3830. [6/18/2014 4:26:00 PM] Barwizi: eta on windows build?
  3831. [6/18/2014 4:26:17 PM] argakiig: when i get home it should be finished
  3832. [6/18/2014 4:26:25 PM] Barwizi: (y)
  3833. [6/18/2014 5:39:08 PM] Logan: I think we should propose a project vote to the general fund and get a mandate from them on what our direction should be.
  3834. [6/18/2014 5:43:28 PM] Pocket: Ya, give them some responsibility
  3835. [6/18/2014 5:46:12 PM] Pocket: The responsibility of ownership
  3836. [6/18/2014 5:46:30 PM] Barwizi: yeah, cool
  3837. [6/18/2014 5:47:19 PM] Barwizi: so Pocket and Koontas Arg says he'll have a build soon, we'll need a Mac Build but we can announce the update with source and linux only
  3838. [6/18/2014 5:47:57 PM] Koontas: Alright, I'll see if I can find someone to do the mac build.
  3839. [6/18/2014 5:48:12 PM] Koontas: Pocket, what's the plan?
  3840. [6/18/2014 7:01:45 PM] Pocket: I announce the update
  3841. [6/18/2014 7:02:08 PM] Pocket: Does this require everyone to dl a new wallet
  3842. [6/18/2014 7:02:11 PM] Pocket: Mandatory
  3843. [6/18/2014 7:04:44 PM] Barwizi: As soon as Arg gives you the windows build, it's up to u
  3844. [6/18/2014 7:04:48 PM] Barwizi: m sleeping
  3845. [6/18/2014 7:04:51 PM] Barwizi: later
  3846. [6/18/2014 7:05:20 PM] Koontas: Yes, requires everyone to DL the new wallet so update the topic in the OP
  3847. [6/18/2014 7:05:27 PM] Koontas: reach out to cryptsy and polo...
  3848. [6/18/2014 7:10:35 PM] argakiig: win is not ready im having to do some debugging
  3849. [6/18/2014 7:13:00 PM] argakiig: will have to look at it more when I get home. checked in on it via remote, and it was errored.
  3850. [6/18/2014 7:13:08 PM] argakiig: so will work on it and see what I can find
  3851. [6/18/2014 9:10:30 PM] argakiig: so i think i found it
  3852. [6/18/2014 9:10:35 PM] argakiig: trying to build again
  3853. [6/18/2014 9:10:40 PM] argakiig: and then will watch to make sure
  3854. [6/18/2014 9:11:03 PM] Logan: I'm getting my ass kicked...
  3855. [6/18/2014 9:11:16 PM] argakiig: eh?
  3856. [6/18/2014 9:12:41 PM] Logan: Chocobo is just giving me a hard time. Making me feel all flushed. He is right through.
  3857. [6/18/2014 9:13:14 PM] argakiig: yeah, I think though a lot of this is cause of grndnpnd and barwizi having their spat the other day
  3858. [6/18/2014 9:19:59 PM] Logan: Very publicly.
  3859. [6/18/2014 9:20:24 PM] argakiig: so setback with qt
  3860. [6/18/2014 9:20:34 PM] argakiig: the changes pulled from ebt are incomplete
  3861. [6/18/2014 9:20:43 PM] argakiig: so im trying to figure out whats missing and get it working
  3862. [6/18/2014 9:21:00 PM] argakiig: http://puu.sh/9A2yv/5dc75209e9.png
  3863. [6/18/2014 9:21:03 PM] argakiig: see, so fun
  3864. [6/18/2014 9:43:52 PM] Koontas: I'm leaving the group. Barwizi, you should be ashamed...
  3865. [6/18/2014 9:44:12 PM] Koontas: Feel free to explain it to everyone...250k postmine...
  3866. [6/18/2014 9:44:16 PM] *** Koontas has left ***
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