DF Game Club: Broken Age Act 2 (part 1 plus devchat)

(07:03:45) Syd: Hi Marius!
(07:03:46) Cheeseness: Syd: Wait, I didn't?
(07:03:47) Marius: Hello!
(07:03:49) ReidHarrisCooper: MAJUS!
(07:03:51) Cheeseness: In that case, let me sort it out :F
(07:03:52) Syd: Cheeseness: Nope
(07:03:55) Cheeseness: Hey Majus :D
(07:04:00) Marius: Helllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
(07:04:01) Sven_Q45: hi
(07:04:06) flesk: Hi there.
(07:04:07) Syd: We'll be starting shortly.
(07:04:09) thesporkman: Majus!
(07:04:12) ReidHarrisCooper: It's a Party now!
(07:04:13) flesk: And Sven.
(07:04:14) Sven_Q45: little too late cuz of my computer.
(07:04:22) Syd: Just give Cheese some time to fix the stream title and then we'll get things going
(07:04:28) salty-horse: Helllllllooooooooooooooo
(07:04:52) ReidHarrisCooper: It's a Bueno Party
(07:04:58) ReidHarrisCooper: a Major Bueno Party
(07:05:03) Marius: Yay :)
(07:05:06) Marius: How are y'all?
(07:05:10) Sven_Q45: I finished it today.
(07:05:20) Sven_Q45: Hi, Marius. Good
(07:05:39) Syd: There's a creepy ice cream truck outside of my house right now. I might be in a horror movie.
(07:05:42) BadAsp: I finished it quite some time ago
(07:05:43) ReidHarrisCooper: <--- really looking forward to see the next full game from you two Marius.  I couldn't play most of the Tour games since they were multiplayer.
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(07:06:08) Sven_Q45: I stucked on one puzzle really long. :D
(07:06:09) JelDeRebel: soo who here is at work?
(07:06:11) Permafry_42: anyone else still have a lot of broken age achievements to unlock?
(07:06:17) Marius: Oh ya there is a lot of MP, but check out No One Lift Behind and Make Like A Tree :) :)
(07:06:24) flesk: I have a ton of them left to unlock.
(07:06:29) flesk: Didn't replay act 1 yet.
(07:06:33) ReidHarrisCooper: Which was the Punching One?
(07:06:36) thesporkman: I still have to replay the first act
(07:06:44) Fhqwhgod: 8 more achievements for me
(07:06:46) beansmyname: Permafry_42: Several. And I still have to finish Act 2.
(07:06:55) Permafry_42: 15 left for me XC
The_Mad_Pirate thesporkman
(07:07:02) ReidHarrisCooper: Let me check
(07:07:06) Marykate_The_Behaved: Okay... I still have no video
(07:07:11) Cheeseness: thesporkman: There are going to be some spoilers for the first hour or two of Act 2
Marius Marykate_The_Behaved
(07:07:16) Cheeseness: Marykate_The_Behaved: We haven't started yet >_<
(07:07:25) kisak: I survived the game a couple days ago, 10 steam achievements to go
(07:07:27) Marius: Test test, colors?
(07:07:30) Marykate_The_Behaved: Okay...
(07:07:31) flesk: ReidHarrisCooper: There's a punching 'chievo in Broken Age too?
(07:07:34) Marius: Ooh colors.
(07:07:42) Fhqwhgod: colours
(07:07:47) Valiant_Cookie: The speedrun achievment was fun to get
(07:07:53) Syd: The stream title will look off if you haven't refreshed the page, so don't worry about that. It should be correct for anyone that joins from here on out.
(07:07:56) JelDeRebel: I started playing act 1 when act 2 was out XD
(07:07:57) thesporkman: I've beat the whole game, I just haven't replayed act 1 for the achievments.
(07:08:02) salty-horse: now that more people are here, I can try getting attention to this real-world monkey island look-alike location: https://twitter.com/saltyhorse/status/596057540217020418
(07:08:05) Marius: Is there a way to have a bigger chatwindow?
(07:08:07) ReidHarrisCooper: Flesk: Oh sorry, I was talking to Marius... in the Tour Bueno there's a game where a Detective punches his way through the game
(07:08:39) Syd: There's a thing below the chat to pop it out into a second window
(07:08:56) Marius: Oh yeah, the punchy one is Employee of the Day, a real Sos Sosowski experience
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(07:09:10) Syd: Hey DFAnna!
(07:09:13) thesporkman: Anna!
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(07:09:15) Cheeseness: Hey DFAnna :)
(07:09:16) Valiant_Cookie: welcome anna
(07:09:18) Marius: Yay woah! Much better
(07:09:19) DFAnna: hiiii! <3
(07:09:21) salty-horse: hi
(07:09:21) ReidHarrisCooper: Oh boy!
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(07:09:25) Cheeseness: Alrighty, let's get this show on the road \o/
(07:09:26) DFAnna: majus hiiii :D!
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(07:09:40) ValiantCookie: now it should fit
(07:09:40) Marius: Yay it's Anna!! Hiiiii!!
(07:09:42) ReidHarrisCooper: Anna and Marius...
(07:09:43) Sven_Q45: Lol logging off is very helpfull if your Windows is really stuck. :D
(07:09:45) JelDeRebel: !! it's anna
(07:09:56) Marius: HOW ARE YOU?
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(07:10:28) Syd: Permafry_42: You ready to get this thing going?
(07:10:30) JelDeRebel: anna always make me think of chicken
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(07:10:51) ReidHarrisCooper: Marius:  Please take whatever you learned from SOS... combine it with your werewolf game and make a super full length game... Thanks ;)
(07:10:57) Permafry_42: 1 moment, twitch is being mean XC
(07:11:05) DFAnna: i'm good! thanks everyone for joining
(07:11:11) JelDeRebel: punc htztich
(07:11:13) JelDeRebel: twitch
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(07:11:27) Fhqwhgod: Jel go home you're drunk
(07:11:28) Syd: Twitch likes to be mean
(07:11:30) Fhqwhgod: already
(07:11:34) Syd: Make sure you're using the right stream key, Perma
(07:11:36) Marius: Haha Thanks :) SOS has a very unique way to make games, it's hard to keep up the speed. He is a fast wizard genius
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(07:11:46) Permafry_42: k it should be live
(07:11:56) Fhqwhgod: we are live indeed
(07:11:57) JelDeRebel: i'm not drunk, but this keyboard at work is azerty, i got qwerty at home
(07:11:58) Syd: We're live!
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(07:12:14) ReidHarrisCooper: Azerty?!?!
(07:12:16) ValiantCookie: here we go
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(07:12:21) ReidHarrisCooper: that's a thing?!?
(07:12:27) Syd: Yep
(07:12:27) Sven_Q45: lol
(07:12:29) JelDeRebel: yes azerty is the standard in belgium
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(07:12:41) JelDeRebel: buut since i use my pc for gaming, i use qwerty
(07:12:41) ReidHarrisCooper: I need to go find that later
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(07:12:59) Marykate_The_Behaved: TY permafry
(07:13:05) Fhqwhgod: That's why WSAD with no control change option is always a bad idea
(07:13:07) Marykate_The_Behaved: YAY
(07:13:08) ReidHarrisCooper: Anna: I forget this... You're Georgian right?
(07:13:08) JelDeRebel: is the stream on? or do I have to reload this page
(07:13:14) Marius: Broken Age Act 2 everybody!!
(07:13:15) ValiantCookie: streams live
(07:13:17) Fhqwhgod: so many different layouts across the world
(07:13:18) Cheeseness: Pause and play, JelDeRebel
(07:13:18) Marykate_The_Behaved: It just started
(07:13:24) Syd: The stream is on. Make sure you don't have somehting blocking Twitch
(07:13:25) Marykate_The_Behaved: And I have video.... <3 <3
(07:13:27) salty-horse: who are these children? why are they in shock? what happened?
Marius Marykate_The_Behaved
Marius Marykate_The_Behaved
(07:13:28) Fhqwhgod: the stream is on
(07:13:30) BadAsp: Yay, title screen!
(07:13:33) Permafry_42: let's enjoy the awesome music for a moment =D
(07:13:37) Marykate_The_Behaved: I love DF
(07:13:42) Marius:  1st puzzle. Press "Continue"
(07:13:47) Marykate_The_Behaved: <3 <3
(07:13:51) Cheeseness: Right, so, for anybody who's not aware, Marius was an intern during the game's early development (you might remember him from back in the early episode of the documentary)
(07:13:52) ReidHarrisCooper: What do we do?
(07:13:57) Syd: If pausing/unpausing doesn't work, you can go directly to http://www.twitch.tv/dfgameclubtemp/
(07:13:59) salty-horse: MEOW GAME
(07:14:03) Cheeseness: And DFAnna was senior gameplay programmer (hope I got that right :D )
(07:14:04) JelDeRebel: great at least y work isn't blocking the stream
(07:14:05) Permafry_42: oops lol
(07:14:07) Syd: Or try a different browser
(07:14:10) ReidHarrisCooper: This was a hard part of the game
(07:14:12) Permafry_42: wrong save file to continue lol
(07:14:30) Marykate_The_Behaved: Have I gone on at length about how much I've loved DFA/BA?
(07:14:31) thesporkman: We need a "I wonder what happens in Act 2 of Broken Age" video from Majus.
(07:14:35) ValiantCookie: first puzzle, loading the right save file!
The_Mad_Pirate thesporkman
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(07:14:41) Cheeseness: thesporkman: We totally do!
(07:14:46) ReidHarrisCooper: OMG!  Majus!
(07:14:48) ReidHarrisCooper: do that!
(07:14:49) Marius: I worked on the beginning of Act 1 of Broken Age, doing some animatics.
(07:14:51) Permafry_42: love the art in this cutscene a lot
(07:14:53) Sven_Q45: Permafry_42 Had the same problem.
(07:14:55) JelDeRebel: you have gone on at length about being a scary bff, marykate
(07:14:55) ValiantCookie: Marius: now that the game is out, can you tell us what parts you worked on?
(07:14:55) ReidHarrisCooper: Even postmotem!
(07:14:57) Marykate_The_Behaved: <3 <3
(07:15:04) Syd: Reminder: No spoiler discussion in the chat, don't talk about anything that's beyond what's being streamed.
(07:15:07) flesk: DFAnna got bored of waiting for the game to start. :/
(07:15:08) Cheeseness: Marius: When you made your application, what expectations did you have for the game?
(07:15:12) Cheeseness: flesk: Ha ha
(07:15:13) Syd: Some people haven't finished act 2 yet.
(07:15:14) salty-horse: hug!
(07:15:18) Marius: I have to say that I love this intro. How quiet it is and that there's no dialogue. So well done.
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(07:15:31) ReidHarrisCooper: How do we choose what part to start?
(07:15:38) ReidHarrisCooper: I say Shay
(07:15:38) BadAsp: Best cliffhanger ever
(07:15:43) salty-horse: WHAAAAAAA
(07:15:44) JelDeRebel: yeah don't spoil that they kill that one guy...oops
(07:15:44) Syd: Whatever part Perma feels like going with I guess
(07:15:48) ReidHarrisCooper: Shay
(07:15:50) Sven_Q45: I started Act 2 with Shay.
(07:15:53) DFAnna: choose either and switch often :D
(07:15:55) ReidHarrisCooper: do Shay for... reasons
(07:15:56) JelDeRebel: vella
(07:16:00) Syd: Looks like it's Shay time
(07:16:02) Fhqwhgod: I started with Vella both times
(07:16:05) Permafry_42: i love shay's face
(07:16:06) Cheeseness: We're planning to switch a bunch
(07:16:11) flesk: I started act 1 with Vella, so I did Shay first this time.
(07:16:15) ReidHarrisCooper: No, this is why Shay... so we go right into discussion.
(07:16:16) ValiantCookie: Rule #1. use the spoon with everything
(07:16:26) Syd: I started with Shay for act 1, started with Vella for act 2, got stuck quickly, and went back to Shay for a while. :P
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(07:16:30) JelDeRebel: I started act 1 vella, act 2 shay
(07:16:33) salty-horse: spoon everyone
(07:16:40) Cheeseness: DFAnna: What were your expectations for the project when the crowdfunding campaign ended? Did you have any idea of what was ahead of you?
(07:16:47) Sven_Q45: Act 1: Vella, Act 2: Shay.
(07:16:53) BadAsp: Freaked out when I first saw that
(07:16:56) salty-horse: WHAAAAAAAAAA
(07:16:57) DFAnna: i didn't even know i was going to be on the project, actually :D
(07:17:01) ReidHarrisCooper: And so now we can go straight into discussion over this reveal... and our feelings
(07:17:01) ElaineMarley: I started with Vella and switched once II made it to the spaceship interior, 'cause I was curious about Shay's reaction too.
(07:17:02) ValiantCookie: How can the computer be real if I'm not real?
(07:17:08) BadAsp: I thought he was just still a computer or an orb thing or whatever
(07:17:12) Marius: ValiantCookie: I made a bunch of animatics for the cloud colony and some for the spaceship
(07:17:17) DFAnna: it was going to be a small thing, mainly for the documentary
(07:17:22) ValiantCookie: cool
(07:17:22) DFAnna: 2 Player Productions approached us
(07:17:35) Cheeseness: Right
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(07:17:47) DFAnna: because they wanted to film what it was like to develop a game from zero concept to fully completed project
(07:18:11) salty-horse: awww spoon
(07:18:11) ElaineMarley: Bless the spoon aww
(07:18:13) ReidHarrisCooper: This part of the story should be in the postmortem.  The story of how the project came to be BEFORE the kickstarter even.
(07:18:15) DFAnna: we didn't expect it to blow up the way it did :D
(07:18:22) Marius: Cheeseness: I seriously had no clue what the DFA could become when I applied. But I knew it would become oldschooly
(07:18:22) JelDeRebel: i backed it for the docuentary mos part, never been into pnc games
(07:18:24) DFAnna: spoon is my personal favorite
(07:18:32) DFAnna: i would request more spoon lines
(07:18:33) flesk: DFAnna: Do you know why they approached Double Fine specifically?
(07:18:33) BadAsp: seagulls are cute
(07:18:36) Fhqwhgod: I'm a knife person
(07:18:39) ReidHarrisCooper: That line confuses me
(07:18:40) Syd: In my second playthrough of act 1, I did lots of using items on stuff they weren't meant for and got some funny surprises
(07:18:44) ReidHarrisCooper: Always knew...
(07:18:46) Syd: Like using the air canister on Marek
(07:18:54) Syd: "Want a hit off this air tank, man?"
(07:18:56) ReidHarrisCooper: What age did he last see them?
(07:18:57) Cheeseness: Hah
(07:19:15) salty-horse: Shay is really small
(07:19:17) JelDeRebel: sporks all the way
(07:19:20) flesk: Yeah, it's really neat that there are so many unique responses.
(07:19:21) kisak: man what was I thinking, I should have talked to all the birds to see if there was a special response
(07:19:24) DFAnna: i don't know why it was DF specifically.. or how they even knew of us.  maybe they liked one of our games or thought tim was very funny
(07:19:25) Sven_Q45: I didn´t play Act 2 with subtitles.-
(07:19:44) ValiantCookie: I need to go through hunting for lines I missed. like in Act 1 you throw away the axe after chopping the tree, imagine all the axe murdering I missed in shellmound!
(07:19:47) Cheeseness: It seems to have worked out to be a good partnership
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(07:19:49) DFAnna: subtitles are useful for one of the puzzles
(07:19:56) Fhqwhgod: Sven: that made a certain part harder I guess
(07:19:59) salty-horse: I didn't like spending time in this room because of all the choking whistling
(07:20:19) thesporkman: Yeah, I felt so bad for Marshal Dune.
(07:20:21) Syd: He can solve that puzzle to stop that noise pretty quickly if he chooses to
(07:20:28) ReidHarrisCooper: Camden's work on that choke is awesome though
(07:20:31) DFAnna: yeah, it's been amazing to have them in the office -- they make game dev interesting to watch which is tough
(07:20:40) flesk: I always play with subtitles when I can. I know which puzzle you mean.
(07:20:45) salty-horse: DFAnna, unless you have musical sense :D
(07:20:48) DFAnna: because so much of it is honestly quite boring
(07:20:50) ReidHarrisCooper: Anna: Is it going to be an adjustment when they leave?
(07:20:52) DFAnna: yes :D! true
(07:20:54) Cheeseness: DFAnna: Do you think that relationship is going to continue after Massive Chalice and the DFA doc wraps up?
(07:21:01) Syd: It feels wrong to play an adventure game without subtitles if the option is available.
(07:21:05) ValiantCookie: Spoon sounds so concerned about the choking risk
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(07:21:12) thesporkman: I actually solved this one before talking to Alex, which led to a slight bug. Marshal Dune mentions something that hadn't happened yet.
(07:21:20) Cheeseness: Hey Nemoder
(07:21:20) BadAsp: I played Act 2 without them because I didn't need them
(07:21:28) Nemoder: heyo
(07:21:33) Marius: Haha, he gives an honest "No"-answer to the hexagon question, while he is choking. I love this guy.
(07:21:36) Cheeseness: I didn't use subtitles either
(07:21:50) DFAnna: i hope they don't leave :D but i don't think it's going to change a whole lot in terms of development (except we'll miss them terribly), because they're amazingly good at making us feel comfortable around a camera.
(07:22:13) DFAnna: we're at a point where we can forget there is a camera on us
(07:22:17) JelDeRebel: can't play without subtitles. english is already hard enough forus foreigners
(07:22:20) ElaineMarley: I like doing a first playthrough without subs so they won't spoil the comic timing.
(07:22:31) Marius: I may be weird if 2PP wouldnt be there anymore.
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(07:22:39) DFAnna: which i never thought i'd be able to say, because being filmed all the time was very difficult for me at first
(07:22:45) ReidHarrisCooper: Look... it's Blossom!
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(07:22:54) salty-horse: there are still a few bugs where graphics overlay the subtitles. was a "known shippable" for part 1
(07:23:03) BadAsp: I love Car'l
(07:23:11) Marius: I love Carols character design, I had much fun drawing her for an animatic where she looses her knife
(07:23:11) Sven_Q45: JelDeRebel Steam wanted me to play in German. But I changed that. I´m used to the English voice from Act 1.
(07:23:22) Cheeseness: ElaineMarley: I think it depends on the game and how the dialogue has been written - take Monkey Island 1 and 2. Those lines are "delivered" better without voice, I think - even though the actors are talented, the lines were just written with the intention that they'd be read
(07:23:25) Fhqwhgod: Ewwwwww German
(07:23:38) JelDeRebel: i wished the documentary had subtitles, guess i'll have to wait for the boxed release
(07:23:39) Syd: I saw Shay's mouth go out of place for a split second during some of his early dialogue with Marek in act 1 after act 2 released but I'm not sure if that has been patched yet.
(07:23:44) salty-horse: BLOSSOM!
(07:23:47) thesporkman: I love how every single NPC has their own little subplot and arc. Very Grim Fandango.
(07:24:00) DFAnna: re the subtitle bugs where some stuff overlays the subtitles -- it would actually be weirder to have the subtitles appear over the graphics, because most of them are important to look at
(07:24:08) DFAnna: i tried that :D
(07:24:11) JelDeRebel: actually wasn't there a project for all sorts of docu sly?ubtitles in different languages that got canned somewhere ear
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(07:24:31) ElaineMarley: Even the cutlery have their own little drama going on, it's so great.
(07:24:38) salty-horse: DFAnna, in some cases, the subtitles are moved to appear below the graphics. But in the star charts and Hexipal it's behind
(07:24:48) Permafry_42: i love this scene soooo much
(07:24:49) DFAnna: thesporkman, yes Tim is very good at writing bit characters and making them feel like they have a rich life in the game world
(07:24:55) ReidHarrisCooper: Cosmonopedia?
(07:24:58) Permafry_42: the trolling is so awesome
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(07:25:08) ReidHarrisCooper: Where is that?  I want the Cosmonopedia...
(07:25:14) salty-horse: err.. it's behind the hexipal only before you try to wire it. then it's in front
(07:25:14) ReidHarrisCooper: Anna:  Can that be made?
(07:25:21) ValiantCookie: Naw who would believe that
(07:25:23) ElaineMarley: lol raise your hands if you thought Alex was future Shay
(07:25:29) salty-horse: ElaineMarley, :D
(07:25:30) Cheeseness: Ha ha, so this dialogue about future/past Shay/Alex feels like it's a response to community speculation
(07:25:33) BadAsp: *raises hand*
(07:25:40) Fhqwhgod: I guess this was inspired by all the theories in the forum
(07:25:47) Syd: I didn't, it didn't feel like a plot device Tim would use.
(07:25:47) Marius: The future-me-joke is so good.
(07:25:51) ElaineMarley: I thought they were clones XD
(07:25:54) Sven_Q45: I liked that Jennifer Hale was on board too. :)
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(07:26:03) Syd: But teasing that in the trailer was a good choice, heh
(07:26:05) Cheeseness: Syd: Right
(07:26:08) Permafry_42: *raisess hand*
(07:26:14) ValiantCookie: Cheeseness: the only question is, how much of it was foresight when they knew they were splitting the game, or reaction to fans
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(07:26:15) DFAnna: ReidHarrisCooper, i think direct that to Tim :D
(07:26:27) Cheeseness: ValiantCookie: I think it was entirely reactionary
(07:26:29) DFAnna: Cheeseness, I believe it was :D
(07:26:32) Sven_Q45: I also thought Alex was Shay. :D
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(07:27:01) DFAnna: a lot of our playtesters told us this as well
(07:27:15) DFAnna: most of the story was there from the get-go
(07:27:15) Cheeseness: DFAnna: What were the biggest hurdles you faced early in development? What type of stuff does a senior gameplay programmer focus on at the start of a project like this?
(07:27:16) ReidHarrisCooper: Anna: It's only cause I just realized it was said... so I'll make sure I'll send a note to Tim.  I'm still waiting for the Google Docs share though.
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(07:27:24) thesporkman: I act one, Alex never introduces himself to Shay. The first time you hear his name is during the Mog Chothra fight. Was that intentional or an oversight?
(07:27:28) ElaineMarley: I feel there was a step-up to the animation on the characters in Act 2. It's sooo good.
(07:27:34) DFAnna: we were able to split the game because we were coming up to a good stopping point in the story
(07:27:42) Cheeseness: thesporkman: Do you mean never introduces himself to Vella?
(07:27:50) thesporkman: yes
(07:28:12) salty-horse: thesporkman, I think the community posted a bug about it on the forum or something
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(07:28:30) Sven_Q45: I only played Act 1 as beta.
(07:28:34) Cheeseness: Hey Ben! :D
(07:28:37) ValiantCookie: DFAnna, I suppose there is a technical reason for it not being there. But did you guys try to include skipping dialog line by line at all?
(07:28:43) salty-horse: how much of the plot was settled before act 1 shipped?
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(07:29:12) Marius: Beeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
(07:29:13) Cheeseness: Just got word from Tim that he'll join us if he can, but he's not sure if he'll be able
(07:29:27) thesporkman: I want to see what Marek's cello costume looked like.
(07:29:36) Syd: Come back to us, Ben!
(07:29:42) salty-horse: Kirk-talk
(07:29:48) thesporkman: And how old is Marek anyway?
(07:29:49) Syd: Ohh, possible Tim
(07:29:56) DFAnna: brb one second guys, just saying bye to some friends who stopped by
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(07:30:16) Syd: That repeat of the future-me joke was pretty good
(07:30:20) JelDeRebel: soo are there any po culture references i'm not seeing or aren't there any?
(07:30:21) salty-horse: past-me
(07:30:22) Marius: The future-me-joke has a fantastic payoff when Dad shows up
(07:30:25) salty-horse: it's a twist on the joke
(07:30:26) Cheeseness: :D
(07:30:27) ElaineMarley: I don't think that was actually Marek in a costume, it could have just been a cello fitted with a speaker, which Marek spoke through remotely.
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(07:30:51) ReidHarrisCooper: Diamond Age
(07:30:56) salty-horse: ElaineMarley, then why would a wolf costume have to be actually Marek in person?
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(07:31:07) Cheeseness: Ben, we miss you
(07:31:08) Syd: Remember, please keep quiet on anything that would be considered a spoiler at the point the stream is at.
(07:31:12) ValiantCookie: salty-horse: budget cuts
(07:31:13) salty-horse: sorry
(07:31:38) Syd: You hadn't quite hit Marek spoilers yet but you were getting close. :P
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(07:31:46) ElaineMarley: salty-horse it comes up later in the game.
(07:31:50) salty-horse: Marek does say he's in a costume in act 1
(07:31:55) Syd: Yeah
(07:32:00) salty-horse: ElaineMarley, whoops. sorry. hadn't gotten there yet
(07:32:16) salty-horse: Cheeseness, !
(07:32:17) salty-horse: pencil!
(07:32:19) Syd: Was just reminding because Marek discussion could easily go into spoiler territory if not handled carefully
(07:32:21) salty-horse: only now!
(07:32:35) Cheeseness: salty-horse: It's still there!
(07:32:43) JelDeRebel: spoilers are dangerous yo
(07:32:52) salty-horse: Cheeseness, it just now appeared
(07:32:55) thesporkman: Alex giving Shay five tasks is an interesting break from the 3 Trials structure.
(07:33:05) Cheeseness: salty-horse: Yeah, I know. It doesn't go away though
(07:33:23) salty-horse: thesporkman, agreed, but it's a bit of a stretch, since some missions are totally blocked by others
(07:33:45) Cheeseness: I think that gating was important
(07:33:47) Sven_Q45: Ooooh the Haxipal puzzle...
(07:33:49) salty-horse: oh I missed those few seconds. I wanted to see how you realize this is a charging station
(07:33:53) Syd: Good ol' spoon, always helpful.
(07:34:26) Permafry_42: good time to swap
(07:34:32) salty-horse: SWAP!
(07:34:43) salty-horse: to the chron-o-jon!
(07:34:53) Fhqwhgod: I looooooove that beginning
(07:34:59) BadAsp: One of my favorite characters
(07:35:08) Xoryn: I love the knife. My favourite character ^^
(07:35:19) DFAnna: hello back
(07:35:22) salty-horse: I missed the knife saying something when Shay cuts the cord in act 1
(07:35:24) Cheeseness: Welcome back, DFAnna
(07:35:25) JelDeRebel: I do find the cotrols to select items from that menu a bit awkward, or maybe it's because the game also supports touch controls i guess
(07:35:41) ReidHarrisCooper: Dutch the Knife...
(07:35:48) BadAsp: DEATH FROM ABOVE!
(07:35:49) Fhqwhgod: how does Vella know what space is?
(07:36:01) ValiantCookie: Homicidal knife, 2nd best character in the game
(07:36:02) JelDeRebel: is that knie going to kill ella?
(07:36:03) salty-horse: Fhqwhgod, I think her world has technology
(07:36:03) ReidHarrisCooper: Why would Vella know about space?
(07:36:05) JaceTachi: knife best character of the game
(07:36:07) thesporkman: In act one, Shay's story only really has one 3 Trials section, but Vella's has two. Was Shay's section supposed to be shorter, or were things cut?
(07:36:13) ReidHarrisCooper: They have video games and TV show
(07:36:15) ValiantCookie: People see stars at night
(07:36:19) ElaineMarley: JelDeRebel in the Options menu you can choose whether you prefer to click or to drag
(07:36:39) JelDeRebel: really? holy shit
(07:36:51) Syd: Vella's world has electricity and such, so they probably know what space is.
(07:36:57) JelDeRebel: marry me, elaine
(07:37:05) DFAnna: ValiantCookie, about line skipping not being available -- it's because we had fully animated cutscenes and it wasn't entirely clear where a line skip would take you, since a lot of the time the story-telling was through only animation.  it just looked bad and inconsistent. i had the feature working but we just didn't like it
(07:37:07) salty-horse: DFAnna, did anyone else get the bug where none of the toolbar menus buttons work?
(07:37:15) Marius: thesporkman: It has kinda the same length since Vella has more environments to explore.
(07:37:38) ValiantCookie: Ah thanks
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(07:37:50) JaceTachi: lol
(07:38:00) salty-horse: aww knifey
(07:38:10) ValiantCookie: I thought Vella's act 1 was a lot longer than shays
(07:38:22) CecilRousso: Knifey is the best.
(07:38:31) DFAnna: Cheeseness, the biggest hurdles were: we initially didn't really know what kind of game we were going to be making, and that because Tim had to run the company in addition to this project, a lot of the smaller decisions fell on Lee and me and it was a lot of pressure to do the right thing
(07:38:54) Cheeseness: It felt like it was a lot of pressure
(07:38:55) ElaineMarley: It is ValiantCookie or at least on my speedrun
(07:39:16) Xoryn: This puzzle makes me think of the Full Throttle gate puzzle.
(07:39:23) salty-horse: so, the family never heard that robotic voice that fixes the space part?
(07:39:38) Cheeseness: I really feel like Vella's dialogue here with cutting the tube a second time leads players in the wrong direction - she seems to talk about needing to climb higher, not have something to fall onto
(07:40:01) Syd: I guess the ship was never damaged to the point that the robotic voice needed to do anything before
(07:40:16) ReidHarrisCooper: What I found funny about most of the Vella puzzles in the ship were actually really easy and had the ILLUSION of being difficult
(07:40:22) salty-horse: Syd, good point
(07:40:38) kisak: I spent at least 3 hours on this screen
(07:40:39) thesporkman: I thought the falling aspect was well hinted at.
(07:40:45) Sven_Q45: Yes but I don´t like time puzzles.
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(07:40:55) salty-horse: the voice in my inventory tells me to kill everyone
(07:40:55) ReidHarrisCooper: The falling aspect is actually super hinted at
(07:40:57) Syd: I got stuck on getting the second hose for this puzzle. It felt like an additional line of dialogue about having something to fall onto might have helped. :P
(07:41:06) Cheeseness: thesporkman: Vella says that she would fall too far, but she keeps talking about how she can't reach the bit she needs to cut
(07:41:06) ReidHarrisCooper: It's there
(07:41:13) salty-horse: why didn't knifey say "yes yes yes" when shay cut the cord? :(
(07:41:14) ReidHarrisCooper: you just need to pay attention
(07:41:26) JelDeRebel: too much spoiler for me atm, i'm not that far XD
(07:41:35) Cheeseness: ReidHarrisCooper: I paid attention :D
(07:41:38) thesporkman: The "I can't reach it" part is the hint that you need to climb it and then cut.
(07:41:46) ValiantCookie: There needed to be more of a hint for needing to cut the long hose
(07:42:02) Syd: What I thought needed to be done was find the right panel to stand on to cut the cable from, so landing on one of those platforms didn't really occur to me
(07:42:09) salty-horse: my friend really got stuck with the UI of the long hose, where you need to click and drag instead of just click
(07:42:15) ElaineMarley: Disturbing line from Dutch there
(07:42:19) thesporkman: There's also a lot of good visual hinting. The the frayed parts of the hose stand out really well.
(07:42:20) ReidHarrisCooper: more of a hint would ruin it and then fall into the well... that was easy
(07:42:24) Sven_Q45: I needed a long time to figure out that I have to cut the hose.
(07:42:31) Permafry_42: yea same
(07:42:37) Syd: I know it's a fine line to walk between too hard and too easy
(07:42:38) salty-horse: same
(07:42:43) ValiantCookie: are there multiple solutions to this puzzle?
(07:42:48) ReidHarrisCooper: No
(07:42:51) ReidHarrisCooper: just one
(07:42:51) ValiantCookie: I used the middle pipe on the left
(07:42:53) salty-horse: does it matter where you connect the long hose?
(07:42:54) ValiantCookie: and middle on the right
(07:42:56) JelDeRebel: how can there be multiple solutions?
(07:42:56) Permafry_42: it changes every time you play
(07:43:04) BadAsp: I just connected it right on the first try
(07:43:09) BadAsp: I think the solution's random
(07:43:10) salty-horse: I got it on the first try so it didn't make sense
(07:43:11) thesporkman: Vella can also jump down onto the right panel without cutting. A lot of experimentation is possible to show you exactly how everythng works.
(07:43:13) Cheeseness: ReidHarrisCooper: I agree - it didn't need more in the way of prompts, just less dialogue about not being able to reach stuff or needing to get higher
(07:43:17) salty-horse: wheeeeee
(07:43:27) Marius: DFAnna: How are people in the office doin'?
(07:43:29) Cheeseness: Oh, I'd never seen her jump down
(07:43:31) ReidHarrisCooper: this puzzle was a headache just cause I suck at hand eye stuff
(07:43:34) salty-horse: it's weird that the claw was mog chothra's tentable
(07:43:34) ValiantCookie: I got this quickly by luck in my playthrough, but had a lot of trouble in my speedrun
(07:43:38) ElaineMarley: I think the long hose you can connect wherever,
(07:43:43) Sven_Q45: Yes I hated the random generator. :D
(07:44:06) DFAnna: Marius, good but not as good as we could be (if you were there)
(07:44:15) Fhqwhgod: random stuff is always good to weed out players that use walkthroughs :)
(07:44:19) Cheeseness: DFAnna: At what point did you decide to randomise some of the puzzle solutions and why?
(07:44:31) Marius: Shutup
(07:44:42) Cheeseness: I'm with Fhqwhgod. I *really* appreciate that there are random bits :3
(07:45:00) ValiantCookie: I wonder if the game uses the same random seed throughout the game. do the pressure pipes always correlate to the hexipal puzzle?
(07:45:32) Cheeseness: ValiantCookie: I think it does. Either that or the wiring patterns were suspiciously close on my second playthrough
(07:46:02) ElaineMarley: I think it's cool that it's randomised. Wasn't the route Guybrush had to take in Monkey Island 2 randomised too, or not?
(07:46:20) Permafry_42: swap!
(07:46:28) Fhqwhgod: no the route was the same I think
(07:46:31) Sven_Q45: ElaineMarley With the ship? Yes.
(07:46:35) ReidHarrisCooper: Anna: I was ... looking through the code and saw other wiring for the Hexipal...other than the four we use.  Are those actually something that can be done?  (ex: window washing action)
(07:46:41) thesporkman: Vella has so many awesome and hilarious lines in act 2.
(07:46:43) ValiantCookie: Where did shay see the pyramid before?
(07:46:48) flesk: I really liked the background in Shay's bedroom in this act.
(07:46:57) Fhqwhgod: oh yeah the treasure root. I thought the endgame route
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(07:47:09) ValiantCookie: is that related to the "intuition" theory, or is it like the mountain from the train
(07:47:16) salty-horse: look at dad's hand when he crosses his arms
(07:47:20) Permafry_42: humongous entertainment did that all the time
(07:47:21) ElaineMarley: Aww stream not working for me :(
(07:47:25) DFAnna: Cheeseness, I thought it might be more fun to have people find out that their puzzle solutions didn't match and have to tell each other *how* they solved the puzzles rather than just give away the solutions
(07:47:25) salty-horse: it appears bent badly
(07:47:29) Cheeseness: ElaineMarley: Try pausing and playing
(07:47:31) thesporkman: Is there anything pyramid shaped on the Prima Doom visuals?
(07:47:48) ElaineMarley: Third time's the charm. Got it now!
(07:48:05) DFAnna: ReidHarrisCooper, there is a special wiring that no one has found yet to my knowledge
(07:48:07) Fhqwhgod: as a chemist I liked the pH balance puzzle
(07:48:08) DFAnna: but just one
(07:48:11) JelDeRebel: can you pause the stream while I make croque monsieur?
(07:48:34) Cheeseness: DFAnna: If that's the achievement related pattern, then there are a couple of people who have it at least (somebody mentioned it in the notes thread)
(07:48:36) ReidHarrisCooper: Anna: Are those also randomized per play though?
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(07:48:58) Sven_Q45: Random: The wiring but in the end it wasn´t that difficult. But in the end I liked that puzzle! :)
(07:49:05) ElaineMarley: Ooh DFAnna any hints
(07:49:16) thesporkman: The initial ph is randomized too, isn't it?
(07:49:21) ValiantCookie: yeah
(07:49:24) Marius: Man that poor tree
(07:49:34) salty-horse: ok good night and have fun playing. got to go
(07:49:36) ReidHarrisCooper: Wielding, Washing...
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(07:49:49) thesporkman: That poor, poor tree.
(07:49:50) Permafry_42: if anyone figures it out let me know and I'll be sure to show it on the last stream
(07:50:02) Syd: I like that there was a genuine dialogue puzzle with the tree. I don't really see those too often.
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(07:50:08) Sven_Q45: I liked the ph puzzle. And it wasn´t hard.
(07:50:23) ValiantCookie: Syd I like that it has multiple solutions
(07:50:26) thesporkman: The ph puzzle was really clever.
(07:50:43) Fhqwhgod: getting one of the ingrediants was the hard part for me
(07:50:44) Cheeseness: DFAnna, Marius: Do you have a favourite character in the game?
(07:50:46) ValiantCookie: The ph puzzle made me feel smart
(07:50:56) ValiantCookie: trick question, spoon.
(07:50:56) Marius: Oh I dont want to spoil the dialog-puzzle, but this kind of puzzle we wanted to implement in Host Master 2
(07:50:59) Syd: The tree never really catches a break
(07:51:04) JelDeRebel: that tree is my favourite character so far
(07:51:04) ElaineMarley: I love that there quite a few educational bits of dialogue and puzzles in Broken Age
(07:51:12) JelDeRebel: does the tree have a name?
(07:51:17) ReidHarrisCooper: Host Master 2!
(07:51:21) thesporkman: I can't wait for Mostly Walking to play the game. Bill's going to love the tree puns.
(07:51:26) DFAnna: my favorite is spoon
(07:51:30) BadAsp: Tell me how you really feel about her, Dialogue tree
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(07:51:41) ReidHarrisCooper: That's what DoubleFine needs to do more of : Mini flash games on the site!
(07:51:41) Cheeseness: Tree jokes are hard
(07:51:46) Marius: By the way DFAnna polished the dialog in Host Master 2
(07:51:49) Nemoder: the tree jokes were really.. sappy
(07:52:00) DFAnna: :D! it was my pleasure
(07:52:46) JelDeRebel: i thin ksome itemis missing XD
(07:52:53) JelDeRebel: i think some item is missing
(07:53:04) thesporkman: Broken Age 2 should be about the Dialogue Tree leading an uprising against the humans.
(07:53:04) Cheeseness: Host Master 2 is great :D
(07:53:06) ValiantCookie: #1 irritation, when you are trying to move between Meriloft and Shellmound quickly, and from shellmound you can see the exit and double click you way fast. but from meriloft it takes forever to walk, esp. out of the house
(07:53:16) ReidHarrisCooper: I believe our streamer knows how to beat the game.  He's just giving a full experience
(07:53:25) Cheeseness: Yeah, Permafry has finished the game before
(07:53:31) Nataly: I just loved the idea of Mr. Huggy
(07:53:32) KingMarth [chatzilla@hide-324E8F29.cg.shawcable.net] entered the room.
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(07:53:42) Marius: My favorite character: One of the knitted-friends in the train-puzzle, who screams "I'M SURE HE HAD HIS REASONS!" while falling down a pit.
(07:53:47) Cheeseness: Hi KingMarth
(07:53:52) ValiantCookie: Lol
(07:53:54) Cheeseness: Hi Nataly
(07:53:56) Nemoder: this puzzle here got me stuck longer than any other
(07:53:59) Syd: Shay is too good at hugs for the snake
(07:54:02) ValiantCookie: I gotta go :( happy adventuring everyone
(07:54:03) Nataly: Hi Cheeseness
(07:54:05) Cheeseness: It took me a while to work this one out
(07:54:08) BadAsp: I figured out this one
(07:54:12) JelDeRebel: now blow that horn
(07:54:13) ReidHarrisCooper: There were no hints to this puzzle
(07:54:13) Cheeseness: Have fun, ValiantCookie! Thanks for stopping by
(07:54:16) Syd: As soon as I stuck around long enough to see the snake start getting tired it clicked for me
(07:54:20) ReidHarrisCooper: Jel: Nope...
(07:54:23) KingMarth: Heya. Yeah, this one helped me get past a stuck area
(07:54:26) Fhqwhgod: I did it first try
(07:54:33) Nemoder: i didn't figure it out, i just wanted shay to die at this point :s
(07:54:34) thesporkman: I love what's beyond the snake.
(07:54:35) ValiantCookie: Syd, I was just hoping for another achievement haha
(07:54:41) Nataly: I noticed him breathing heavily really quick. Plus I always try to see if I can "die" :P
(07:55:00) CecilRousso: oper: There were like six or seven hints to this puzzle. Not sure if all were intentional from DF, but I think I saw that many signs pointing to this solution.
(07:55:05) Cheeseness: I feel like this, and the tree joke puzzle both lend themselves toward being more discoverable to people who appreciate the game's writing
(07:55:08) ElaineMarley: Yeah thesporkman i loved that too
(07:55:12) Marius: The snake puzzle: I like how Shay is howing his love for "real" danger here again.
(07:55:26) thesporkman: The snake puzzle was the first one I solved, before even visiting most of the areas.
(07:55:53) ReidHarrisCooper: The only disappointing to this was I really wanted to see more Shellmound
(07:55:55) Permafry_42: swap!
(07:55:56) Marius: "howing"? what did I want to write there?
(07:56:00) JelDeRebel: now if we could jump down that cliff
(07:56:08) Sven_Q45: First I didn´t know you just have to wait a bit at the snake. :D
(07:56:13) ReidHarrisCooper: Anna:  Was there Shellmound that was cut?  Or was this always the plan?
(07:56:22) NatalyE [natalye@C5212176.A78BA1CD.A73F70CA.IP] entered the room.
(07:56:24) CecilRousso: Oh, I forgot using the snake with the rest of the inventory. :\ Lot's of missed dialogue there I assume.
(07:56:53) Cheeseness: But who is *behind* sweetie pie?
(07:56:53) KingMarth: Sweetie Pie makes much more sense as a name to someone from Sugar Bunting, I take it
(07:56:54) Sven_Q45: Marius You wanted to write showing. ;)
(07:57:01) Marius: aaaah
(07:57:02) Marykate_The_Behaved: WHO IS BEHIND SWEETIE PIE?
(07:57:03) Marius: thanks
(07:57:05) Marius: haha
(07:57:06) DFAnna: i don't actually think anything at all was cut except stuff that didn't really make sense in the story
(07:57:07) Marykate_The_Behaved: I had a dream about that...
(07:57:31) ***Marykate_The_Behaved is going back to behaving.... but that was NOT my fault
(07:57:39) Marykate_The_Behaved: OR IT'S ALL HEAD
(07:57:40) Sven_Q45: Marius First I thought: What is "howing." :D
(07:57:47) Marykate_The_Behaved: ...Sorry.
(07:57:48) thesporkman: I love that the characters all project their own genders on to the hexipals.
(07:58:00) ReidHarrisCooper: DFAnna: Actually something WAS cut because the puzzle was changed/rearranged, but I was told to keep this info off till a later chat.
(07:58:11) ***Marykate_The_Behaved apologizes again.
(07:58:14) ElaineMarley: I love how Shay thinks of the Hexipals as male and Vella and Rocky as female.
(07:58:31) Cheeseness: So, Vella refers to all the hexipals as female, and Shay refers to all of them as male. I interpret them as characters projecting their own impressions rather than the hexipals having inherent gender within the game
(07:59:12) DFAnna: ReidHarrisCooper, really? i'm not sure which puzzle you mean. we def changed a lot of stuff as we were developing but
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(07:59:25) CecilRousso: Mom sounds like a mob boss when dutch talks about her.
(07:59:29) ElaineMarley: In Act 1 the Druids mention a battle of Volgentoll between Mogs and humans. Where did that come from? Is it like the word Gemethys which came from Alex saying "Get me this!".
(07:59:36) Cheeseness: Everything sounds mob related when Dutch talks
(07:59:45) ReidHarrisCooper: Anna: I'll DM you cause it was a conversation I had with Tim.
(07:59:49) thesporkman: In some of the knife's lines, Nick slips into his Max voice. :D
(08:00:15) CecilRousso: I wish I had a voice like that. Very few things sound mob related when you're swedish.
(08:00:31) KingMarth: The crying faces are kind of creepy. Unfortunately you can't change all of them
(08:00:35) Sven_Q45: Nick Jameson and Jennifer Hale. Reasons to play it in English. :D
(08:00:56) BadAsp: Sven_Q45 2 out of 20
(08:00:59) BadAsp: reasons
(08:01:17) Sven_Q45: BadAsp Ok... :D
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(08:01:30) Syd: I think the entire English cast is great. :)
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(08:01:44) Cheeseness: Marius: What sort of stuff have you been up to since leaving Double Fine?
(08:01:45) Marius: Totally
(08:01:54) Marius: CRYING
(08:02:06) Cheeseness: Aww <3
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(08:02:08) Marius: No I finished school just a month ago actually
(08:02:14) ReidHarrisCooper: Marius also has been making great games
(08:02:20) Cheeseness: And a documentary \o/
(08:02:20) NatalyE: switched to another client :)
(08:02:26) ReidHarrisCooper: Marius: Wait... how did that fit into the tour?
(08:02:33) Marius: I teamed up with Benedikt Hummel and we gave us the name Major Bueno and made flash games.
(08:02:47) NatalyE: but I actually have to go to sleep, so enjoy the game all!
(08:02:54) Cheeseness: Thanks for coming, NatalyE :)
(08:03:12) Marius: Last January and February we did a roadtrip through europe, visiting 11 european Indies and make 11 games. And there are 11 web-episodes.
(08:03:13) ReidHarrisCooper: HAHA!
(08:03:24) ReidHarrisCooper: Man, when the game gets so dark and adult..
(08:03:29) NatalyE: Maybe next week I'll be able to stay longer :) good night!
(08:03:47) Sven_Q45: shame
(08:03:55) Marius: ReidHarrisCooper: the tour was my diploma-project, so a part of school.
(08:04:27) ReidHarrisCooper: Marius:  What if any are there chances of having Tour Bueno be a Physical product?  is that possible with all the teamups even?
(08:04:27) Cheeseness: DFAnna: Did you tweet some stats about the number of assets in Act 2 (acts 2 and 3 I guess) a while back? I seem to recall seeing some numbers about sprite counts and hours of dialogue, but I can't put my hands on them
(08:04:44) Permafry_42: vella can be pretty mean
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(08:04:51) BadAsp: I like when Vella tries to impersonate Shay's voice
(08:04:56) Cheeseness: Vella has no remorse or accountability \o/
(08:04:57) DFAnna: Cheeseness, I think Oliver did. I can try to track it down
(08:05:00) flesk: Marius: Didn't know you made a documentary. I followed the updates on Twitter though.
(08:05:02) BadAsp: And she's barely even met him! XD
(08:05:43) Marius: ReidHarrisCooper: For now the games and the documentaries are all free the play/watch online. I dont think we will make a physical version of that for now.
(08:06:02) Cheeseness: It's interesting that Marek recognises her
(08:06:04) ReidHarrisCooper: I'm not really sure what happens in terms of Mom not believing Vella and then... doing so cause... reasons.
(08:06:09) Cheeseness: It suggests that he had the ability to see more than Shay did
(08:06:09) KingMarth: "I'm sorry I pretended to be Shay, but it was easier than convincing you I was me."
(08:06:26) Marius: You can find it all on tourbueno.com :) Sadly, the servers aren't the best, and loading times might be long. It helps a bit to click on the HD-button, which will turn HD off and speeds up the loading
(08:06:47) thesporkman: I love how all of the "creatures" were caricatures of the real maidens.
(08:06:47) ReidHarrisCooper: Cheese: Marek obviously had a view screen that showed what was really happening outside the ship but doesn't explain the reasons for the "attacks"
(08:07:03) JelDeRebel: soo how many more df club nights is this going to take?
(08:07:13) Cheeseness: JelDeRebel: We have 4 sessions planned
(08:07:34) JelDeRebel: plenty of time to atch up i guess
(08:07:35) Sven_Q45: Yeah 4 sessions!!
(08:07:52) ReidHarrisCooper: DFAnna:  How do you personally feel about some of the very left open questions to Broken Age plot/story?
(08:07:52) Cheeseness: ReidHarrisCooper: Maybe, or maybe he'd been in communication with other characters in Vella's world
(08:08:01) Sven_Q45: Majus Did you do animation for Act 1?
(08:08:07) Sven_Q45: +s
(08:08:36) Cheeseness: 7.6 hours of cutscenes https://twitter.com/p1xelcoder/status/567784404963045376
(08:08:40) DFAnna: ReidHarrisCooper i think it was meant to be "hey they built a bridge, there are so many possibilities and so much hope now".  i felt like it was just wrapped up enough, personally
(08:08:55) DFAnna: it left things open to interpretation while wrapping things up where it was necessary
(08:09:02) Marius: Sven_Q45: Yes actually! When I started the internship, Ray teached me a bit of Maya. I did some animations for some maidens in the maidens feast
(08:09:10) JelDeRebel: and to milk it with sequels
(08:09:12) JelDeRebel: nahj/k
(08:09:15) Marius: For example the water-maiden-idle-animation :)
(08:09:33) ReidHarrisCooper: Marius:  You did the animatics for the original teaser that 2 Player produced didn;t you?
(08:09:48) Syd: Marek's voice ever-so-vaguely reminds me of Alan Rickman, though I can't quite put my finger on why.
(08:09:56) Syd: It's just something about the way he talks
(08:09:58) Marius: I tested my first maya-aniamtions on the lumberjack :) I remember doing walk- and run-cycles, but also there was one where a ball hits his head and he looks confused :)
(08:10:14) Cheeseness: Syd: A bit of nasalness maybe?
(08:10:30) CecilRousso: If Starwars has taught us anything, it's that it's always preferable to explain less then expected then too much in a story. #Midichlorians
(08:10:35) ElaineMarley: Syd It reminds you of Snape's voice in Potter Puppet Pals
(08:10:43) Permafry_42: i love the pictures
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(08:10:53) ReidHarrisCooper: Anna: Okay... I accept that answer.  It fits to Tim's style of writing to many of his games as well, not wanting to be so direct to allow the viewer to make decisions based on their own world view, experiences from life and other media
(08:11:05) Syd: ElaineMarley: Yeah, it's probably a bit closer to that than Alan Rickman. :P
(08:11:08) Marius: ReidHarrisCooper: Yes, they asked me to do an animatic for the first teaser, that was neat :)
(08:11:20) Cheeseness: Was that the 90,000 friends teaser?
(08:11:25) ReidHarrisCooper: Marek actually is one of the most polished voice actors in Video Game History
(08:11:27) Cheeseness: Or the one before that?
(08:11:29) ReidHarrisCooper: and Anime
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(08:11:51) Cheeseness: Who here made their own notes for this puzzle
(08:12:13) flesk: I did.
(08:12:22) Permafry_42:  made notes for the wiring puzzle, that was time consuming
(08:12:27) ReidHarrisCooper: I took some notes Cheese and on second playthrough discovered something
(08:12:29) thesporkman: I thought all the shoe clues stood out a little too much. It would have been nice if they were buried among other more random tidbits. As it is, it seems like Shay was REALLY obsessed with shoes.
(08:12:30) Syd: I did as well, though I had to brute-force the color because I couldn't nail that variable.
(08:12:30) Sven_Q45: I didn´t make any notes. :D But I should have. :D
(08:12:33) ReidHarrisCooper: Mom tells you the answer!
(08:12:36) Marius: Cheeseness: There was the friends line, but I believe it was still the first teaser
(08:12:36) Permafry_42: i'll probably have to do that again on the 4th session
(08:13:07) ReidHarrisCooper: Perma: No... you don't... Mom gives you the answer!
(08:13:07) CecilRousso: Got pattern and color right here, but had to make notes and think a lot to get the size right.
(08:13:25) ReidHarrisCooper: You really didn't need much guess work
(08:13:31) Cheeseness: ReidHarrisCooper: Permafry is talking about the wiring puzzles
(08:13:47) ReidHarrisCooper: Oh... yeah... randomness means notes every playthrough
(08:13:52) Cheeseness: :)
(08:13:55) ReidHarrisCooper: NO
(08:13:58) ReidHarrisCooper: wrong way
(08:14:02) ReidHarrisCooper: Bad Permafry
(08:14:08) thesporkman: Sometimes when you go through Nadine, Vella calls her "Mel."
(08:14:21) ReidHarrisCooper: You did it wrong Permafry
(08:14:25) Cheeseness: For anybody who's finished the game, there's a thread here where people have been sharing their notes http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/16940/
(08:14:41) DFAnna: i've seen 2 playtesters solve all the puzzles without taking notes and it was downright freaky :D  i needed to take notes while testing
(08:14:45) KingMarth: Permafry's going for maximum content, not fastest completion
(08:14:46) ReidHarrisCooper: there you go!
(08:14:54) ReidHarrisCooper: No
(08:14:57) ReidHarrisCooper: Not yet
(08:15:09) Sven_Q45: DFAnna Shame I only tested Act 1.
(08:15:17) Cheeseness: I didn't take many notes. The ones I put up on the forums were a little embellished. I had the wiring patterns committed to memory
(08:15:21) ReidHarrisCooper: Permafry back to through the teleporter in the front
(08:15:29) ReidHarrisCooper: No
(08:15:34) ReidHarrisCooper: NO!
(08:15:40) ReidHarrisCooper: Permafry.... wrong way!
(08:15:42) Cheeseness: It's OK :)
(08:16:01) flesk: Did you stop to look at the view in the bedroom? I really liked that.
(08:16:07) Permafry_42: yes =D
(08:16:13) ReidHarrisCooper: did that work?
(08:16:15) Cheeseness: Yep
(08:16:18) Syd: ReidHarrisCooper: Remember that there's something like a 30 second delay to the stream. Perma would be seeing your warnings well after he's taken the action. :P
(08:16:19) ReidHarrisCooper: Oh it did work that way too?
(08:16:22) Sven_Q45: Yes
(08:16:35) ReidHarrisCooper: I always went the other way!
(08:16:43) flesk: How objects transform when going from "space" to the real view and back.
(08:17:00) Cheeseness: flesk: It's a nice effect, ywah
(08:17:19) BadAsp: This took me a long while to answer
(08:17:27) DFAnna: Cheeseness i believe it :D  but i'm happy that you posted the notes all the same. i love that thread on the forums.  it's like people sharing their inner thoughts about these puzzles i was making for ages
(08:17:30) Syd: Butt-Butt!
(08:17:33) Sven_Q45: flesk Didn´t know that.-
(08:17:33) thesporkman: Yeah, that seagull that turns into an asteroid in Shay's room is awesome.
(08:17:46) ElaineMarley: I answered this correctly based purely on Shay's personality
(08:17:48) JelDeRebel: mr. huggy o_O
(08:17:49) BadAsp: I saw the picture of Shay with the toy snake
(08:17:56) BadAsp: And he called the snake Mr. Huggy
(08:17:58) Cheeseness: DFAnna: It's been great to see different people's approaches to stuff in that thread!
(08:18:01) flesk: I think you see it in other rooms too, but that's where it's most noticable.
(08:18:10) BadAsp: I thought like Shay would when I answered question 2
(08:18:24) BadAsp: This one I had to write notes
(08:18:36) ReidHarrisCooper: keep things fresh by never repeating a color or a pattern
(08:18:51) ReidHarrisCooper: so the only hard thing is the size without the clues
(08:19:04) DFAnna: true story about this dialog tree -- i sent Tim a last-minute email to ask Jennifer Hale to record all the responses because i misread Tim's intentions with it.  we used her recordings because it was so funny to hear her say them
(08:19:05) Cheeseness: Permafry_42: Aww, we could've gotten it wrong a couple of times
(08:19:11) thesporkman: Those solid blue boots broke your son's heart! He wanted red with skulls! Damn your system!
(08:19:14) DFAnna: "mr... butt but"
(08:19:20) DFAnna: butt*
(08:19:32) Cheeseness: :D
(08:19:42) Permafry_42: awwh sorry forgot about doing it wrong; my bad XC
(08:19:43) KingMarth: The size was one of the easiest for me, the medical report clue was one of the longest so it stands out
(08:19:52) ReidHarrisCooper: Now I need to replay it just to hear all THAT
(08:20:00) BadAsp: The medical report confused me
(08:20:10) Sven_Q45: Bastila! :D
(08:20:13) Cheeseness: The medical report is the clue for the black and white photo
(08:20:19) Cheeseness: Since that has a shoe size on it
(08:20:23) thesporkman: Jennifer Hale says "Chothra" a lot differently than the other characters.
(08:20:34) DFAnna: it's true, she does
(08:20:35) Sven_Q45: She did?
(08:21:01) DFAnna: have all of you played the game already?
(08:21:04) Syd: Marekai reveal, dun-dun-duuun
(08:21:08) ReidHarrisCooper: I want to see Marek's trumpet costume
(08:21:14) Cheeseness: DFAnna: There are some people who haven't finished the game yet
(08:21:19) BadAsp: When I saw that reveal I was like "Oh he's DEFINITELY a villain"
(08:21:21) Permafry_42: so I'll be ending today's stream after this cutscene, to end it on a twist
(08:21:22) DFAnna: oh i see
(08:21:28) Cheeseness: We're going to try to keep discussion most about the stuff that we're covering during each session
(08:21:32) Cheeseness: mostly^
(08:21:40) KingMarth: I'm pretty sure that you need to get the shoe color by elimination, so it relies on having four color options where you know it can't be three of them
(08:21:48) Sven_Q45: DFAnna I did today.
(08:21:58) DFAnna: ah, cool :D
(08:21:59) ReidHarrisCooper: I finished it 3 times so far...
(08:22:05) DFAnna: whoa!
(08:22:09) thesporkman: I like the little skull on the bottom. Something very Grim about it.
(08:22:12) Cheeseness: So, I wonder how old Marekai is
(08:22:14) ReidHarrisCooper: and then I played to get screen shots for fan art drawings
(08:22:14) ElaineMarley: 3 times as well
(08:22:28) Sven_Q45: thesporkman Dito.
(08:22:29) Permafry_42: that way we can have enough stuff to do over the next 3 streams
(08:22:30) CecilRousso: Beat the game today, Navigating through the forums to avoid spoilers have been a bit difficult the last couple of weeks.
(08:22:31) ElaineMarley: Got all achievements :)
(08:22:33) ReidHarrisCooper: Marekai is at least 500 years old
(08:22:35) DFAnna: ReidHarrisCooper have you tried the speed run?
(08:22:40) Permafry_42: thanks again for everyone joining us today!
(08:22:48) BadAsp: Yay!
(08:22:50) DFAnna: thanks for coming guys :D!
(08:22:50) Cheeseness: I'm hoping to have a go at the speed run soon
(08:22:58) DFAnna: <3
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(08:22:58) Marius: It was a pleasure!
(08:23:00) Cheeseness: Yay, thanks for coming DFAnna and Marius!
(08:23:00) ReidHarrisCooper: Anna: Nope... I'm going for the other achievements and other experiences.
(08:23:01) Syd: Thanks to everyone that joined us, and thanks Permafry_42 for streaming!
(08:23:03) DFAnna: and thanks for playing the game
(08:23:04) KingMarth: ReidHarrisCooper: Assuming the same Marekai?
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(08:23:23) Marykate_The_Behaved: TY Anna!
(08:23:26) DFAnna: bye everyone!!
(08:23:27) Marykate_The_Behaved: Ty everyone!!!
(08:23:29) Sven_Q45: DFAnna One reason. I needed a few days to solve the wiring puzzle. lol
(08:23:30) Marykate_The_Behaved: <3 <3 <3
(08:23:32) Permafry_42: if we end up finishing early on stream 4 i might do a speed run of the game and see how fast i can play through it
(08:23:32) BadAsp: bai
(08:23:34) Cheeseness: Everybody is welcome to hang around and continue chatting about the game. That's all for the stream for today though
(08:23:38) ReidHarrisCooper: Bye Anna... enjoy your weekend
(08:23:39) KingMarth: Thanks for coming, DFAnna
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(08:23:42) ElaineMarley: Lots of love, everyone
(08:23:48) flesk: Thanks for joining DFAnna and Marius, and for streaming Permafry_42.
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(08:23:51) beansmyname: thanks to all the peoples! see ya all next week!
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(08:23:53) Cheeseness: \o/
(08:23:54) ReidHarrisCooper: Hope Monday you guys can start announcing some DF stuff
(08:23:57) thesporkman: Thanks, Majus and Anna!
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(08:23:58) DFAnna: see you all soon!
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(08:24:07) ReidHarrisCooper: Thanks Marius... Games soon Please!
(08:24:09) Cheeseness: Don't forget to leave a comment in the forum thread http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/17001/
(08:24:09) Syd: See you all at the next session!
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(08:24:24) Marykate_The_Behaved: <3 <3
(08:24:25) Marius: Yes let's hang when you play part 2
(08:24:27) Permafry_42: gotta go now, moving day today and i still need to take apart my computer. Cheers!
(08:24:31) Marykate_The_Behaved: TY, Cheese.
(08:24:36) Cheeseness: My pleasure :)