Never tell your password to anyone.
Friday, April 18, 2014
10:47 PM - Luna - VIHN'LL FIX IT: Cake.
10:47 PM - Luna - VIHN'LL FIX IT: How's the fix coming along?
10:48 PM - Luna - VIHN'LL FIX IT: Ellis just spoke about how eight people got infected.
10:48 PM - Luna - VIHN'LL FIX IT: Only on his friends list.
10:48 PM - CakeZ: Yeah, people are getting fucked
10:48 PM - Luna - VIHN'LL FIX IT: What does the trojan/virus/whatever do?
10:49 PM - Luna - VIHN'LL FIX IT: Ellis says it steals your steam pass.
10:49 PM - CakeZ: Steals your password, logs into your steam account, spams people with varied messages.
10:49 PM - CakeZ: Thus far, these.
10:49 PM - CakeZ: *cough*
10:49 PM - CakeZ: *cough*
10:49 PM - CakeZ: and 10:25 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: FIX IT VINH
10:25 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: FIX IT VINH
10:25 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: FIX IT VINH
10:25 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: FIX IT VINH
10:25 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: FIX IT VINH
10:25 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: FIX IT VINH
10:25 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: FIX IT VINH
10:26 PM - CakeZ: Aw shit, sorry for your loss, Corbulo.
10:27 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@ is now Online.
10:30 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=35468592
10:30 PM - CakeZ: You bask on your feet, Prodigy?
10:30 PM - CakeZ: Back*
10:30 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: Apparently.
10:30 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: I am unbanned from gmod.
10:30 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: And uh...
10:30 PM - VINH'LL FIX IT@@: Read: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=35468592
10:49 PM - CakeZ: The fix it vinh shit
10:51 PM - Luna - VIHN'LL FIX IT: wow
Saturday, April 19, 2014
11:05 AM - Luna - VIHN'LL FIX IT: sean danieli
11:05 AM - Luna - VIHN'LL FIX IT: Vihn fixed it
11:05 AM - Luna - VIHN'LL FIX IT: :)
11:05 AM - Luna - VIHN'LL FIX IT has changed their name to Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life.
11:10 AM - CakeZ: When?
11:10 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Here.
11:10 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I'll give you the post.
11:10 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: But, Garry released a patch.
11:10 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: My server got the update.
11:11 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1386818&p=44586110&viewfull=1#post44586110
11:11 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: But.
11:11 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Valve will need to patch their games also.
11:11 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Soo.
11:12 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I'm not going on any source games other than Gmod for a while
11:12 AM - CakeZ: Oh, so he was just making a point.
11:12 AM - CakeZ: I thought that, but wasn't sure
11:12 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Yeah.
11:12 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I believe he was showing that it COULD be done.
11:12 AM - CakeZ: Yep.
11:12 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: If the nastier people had their hands on it...
11:12 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: We'd be fucked.
11:12 AM - CakeZ: That's what the VINH'LL FIX IT shit was.
11:13 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Man.
11:13 AM - CakeZ: spooky
11:13 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Garry's Mod is a sacry place.
11:13 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: sacry.
11:13 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: fuck
11:13 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: my
11:13 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: english
11:13 AM - CakeZ: mine is garbagio as well
11:14 AM - CakeZ: i am discouraged by the failing snowballing method of spreading word
11:14 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: we need to talk sometime
11:14 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: like
11:14 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: on skype
11:14 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i miss you
11:14 AM - CakeZ: the shit i was throwing around like candy only got 932 hits
11:14 AM - CakeZ: lol i removed you yesterday
11:14 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: yyyy
11:14 AM - CakeZ: along with most people
11:14 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Oh, yes.
11:14 AM - CakeZ: i left IRL friends, Dex, a few c16 people, and maybe goose idk why
11:15 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I think Garrus might of died.
11:15 AM - CakeZ: br
11:15 AM - CakeZ: b
11:15 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: ok
11:17 AM - CakeZ: back
11:17 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: ok
11:17 AM - CakeZ: garrus died on wow and never came back
11:17 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I know.
11:18 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: He got sucked into its ass.
11:18 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I lol.
11:18 AM - CakeZ: I got absorbed by SWTOR for a bit.
11:18 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I was addicted to SAMP.
11:18 AM - CakeZ: I'm unfamiliar.
11:18 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: San Andreas Multiplayer.
11:18 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: It's fun as hell.
11:19 AM - CakeZ: Is it a call for GTAV? Heh.
11:19 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: A call?
11:19 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Oh.
11:19 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: You mean GTA:Online?
11:19 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: No, that shit is terrible.
11:20 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I mean Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
11:20 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Terrible graphics.
11:20 AM - CakeZ: I know, nevermind, lol.
11:20 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: But it's so fun to rp on there.
11:20 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: :(
11:21 AM - CakeZ: I'm sticking to the GMOD community for RP, though. You can't really make your own thing in MMO's unless you're alright with having no visual aid, ever.
11:21 AM - CakeZ: I mean text-based RP is great, but nobody was doing that in the MMO>
11:21 AM - CakeZ: All one liners and shit. At least there's less drama, though.
11:22 AM - CakeZ: Rather than say one-liner, I should say that it was incredibly uninteresting.
11:22 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Some MMO's are bad for RP.
11:22 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Like FE.
11:22 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Fuck FE.
11:22 AM - CakeZ: Eh
11:22 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Fallen Earth.
11:22 AM - CakeZ: lole
11:22 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: 3/4's of my community plays that game
11:22 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: and rps on it
11:23 AM - CakeZ is now Offline.
11:23 AM - CakeZ is currently offline, they will receive your message the next time they log in.
11:33 AM - CakeZ is now Online.
11:34 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: hey
11:34 AM - CakeZ: ded
11:34 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i saw you on some hl2rp server with 6 slots
11:34 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: are you making that
11:34 AM - CakeZ: Yeah.
11:34 AM - CakeZ: I've been working on it for a few months.
11:34 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I see.
11:34 AM - CakeZ: I'm working with someone else, as well
11:35 AM - CakeZ: For another RP. We're probably going to be closely tied.
11:35 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Hm.
11:35 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Is it going to be one community or is it going to be seperate?
11:36 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Or are you even making a community.
11:36 AM - CakeZ: I'm making a community, and his, depending on his finances, might become synonymous with mine.
11:36 AM - CakeZ: And I'm helping him with script development anyway.
11:37 AM - CakeZ: And I've provided him most of his materials; technically I own everything he has but the server hosting itself.
11:37 AM - CakeZ: But I don't pull that over people, usually.
11:38 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Cake. I'm just gonna throw this out there. If you ever need help with funding or scripting, as basic as my skill may be, I'm here. I've got a pretty strong basis for my community now. I'm deving forums and two servers. I've also got two scripters, but both of whom only work on weekends. So, if you need any assistance at all, my community is here. We go back, and I like to help my friends.
11:38 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I'm not asking anything in return.
11:38 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I just dislike not helping friends.
11:39 AM - CakeZ: Its alright. I'm taking this on as a personal project, kinda like AFTERMATH was; its not supposed to be 'to gain players and start a community', its current purpose is only to appease me by giving me something to do that I want to do.
11:40 AM - CakeZ: The thing I'm doing with ShiftKnife is for his benefit, and seeing my idea actualized, with a playerbase, if only for a time.
11:40 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Ah, I see.
11:40 AM - CakeZ: The offer is appreciated, though.
11:40 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: What is your idea, anyways?
11:41 AM - CakeZ: I don't really tell people much beyond a cover story.
11:41 AM - CakeZ: It is very easily improperly conveyed.
11:41 AM - CakeZ: It is a roleplaying server set in 2074, within the Half-Life universe, without modifications to the confirmed canon and lore as established in-game, and by Marc Laidlaw.
11:42 AM - CakeZ: In it, you take up the role of a soldier, whether it be conscript, volunteer, or of reluctant necessity, for the Universal Union, in a drastically different world in place of the Earth we see in the HL series.
11:44 AM - CakeZ: Quite a bit has occurred since the events of EP2, where I've developed, and am still developing, a timeline of events and lifestyles for the remaining human presence of Earth, for people to build their characters around. In it, you do not play as the blind, deafened solider of the Union. You have been taken from what you believed to be the perfect life, thrown into an unfamiliar existence not once mentioned by those who allowed you life.
11:46 AM - CakeZ: There's a focus on the largely uninvestigated aspects of the HL series, primarily teleportation, extra, inter, and intra-dimensional themes, and the idea of time. Another standing theme regards the presence of powers far beyond human comprehension, and their revelation to the group, which we label the 16NCU.
11:46 AM - CakeZ: And that's about all I tell people./
11:46 AM - CakeZ: Its a military RP that's story driven.
11:46 AM - CakeZ: And dynamic.
11:46 AM - CakeZ: Things change, people die, things don't go right, the story twists and curves.
11:47 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: That sounds rather intriguing.
11:47 AM - CakeZ: If you're not into the more-restrictive nature of MRP's, its not for you.
11:47 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I've never even done MRP, so I wouldn't know what to expect either way.
11:48 AM - CakeZ: Though there will be a wide berth for ways of thinking and personal expression, as made necessary by the environments, and factors tying each individual of the military unit together, preventing the AWOL plague in most MRP's.
11:48 AM - CakeZ: Oh.'
11:48 AM - CakeZ: Well, by that, then.
11:48 AM - CakeZ: There's this issue of people who have ideologies outside of the one of the military they belong to.
11:48 AM - CakeZ: Have you seen starship troopers?
11:48 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: No.
11:49 AM - CakeZ: Its one of the more popular subjects for MRP's.
11:49 AM - CakeZ: Alright, well, the earth has a unified, fascist government, and its-
11:49 AM - CakeZ: Nevermind, lol.
11:49 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Wait.
11:49 AM - CakeZ: The movie is a joke, the book is limited.
11:49 AM - CakeZ: Huh?
11:49 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I think Ellis might of explained the jist of it.
11:49 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: There's a federation or something, yes?
11:49 AM - CakeZ: Yeah, probably.
11:49 AM - CakeZ: Yeah.
11:50 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I think I might understand where you're heading with this.
11:50 AM - CakeZ: Its kinda beside the point, beyond people in the military who don't understand or agree with the fascist and ultra-violent solutions employed.
11:50 AM - CakeZ: So what people tend to do is want to go AWOL or switch sides.
11:51 AM - CakeZ: Given that MRP's of this nature are single-faction, you can't really consistently play someone who's left the military group that everyone else RP's as.
11:51 AM - CakeZ: That character essentially becomes an outside RP element that can only appear from time to time, at the volition of administration for event purposes, and he/she serves no developmental purpose for the person who created that character.
11:52 AM - CakeZ: That is incredibly discouraging, and limiting.
11:52 AM - CakeZ: Since the se MRP's often carry punishments or some other IC limitation to how people think, prevention of spreading anti-military ideas and the like.
11:52 AM - CakeZ: Quieting dissent, you know?
11:53 AM - CakeZ: Where in modern MRP's, you have to had joined the military for a reason, agreeing with it, or just being angry that you were drafted, if they use drafts.
11:54 AM - CakeZ: Rather than limit people's ways of thinking at an IC level, I have essentially removed the IC 'laws' of the military organization, and created a survivalistic military unit, forced by fear, to at least attempt to complete the operations ordered to them by the Union above.
11:54 AM - CakeZ: It should drive IC conflicts between characters who develop differing ideologies.
11:54 AM - CakeZ: Without allowing people to just up-and-leave, or kill other people.
11:55 AM - CakeZ: Since they won't be with the particular liberty to kill the other soldiers.
11:55 AM - CakeZ: Again, survivalistic, safety in numbers.
11:55 AM - CakeZ: As a failsafe, I have a little teleportation thing going to keep people in line, I suppose.
11:56 AM - CakeZ: In line meaning within a certain radius of something mobile.
11:56 AM - CakeZ: And this kind of stuff can change, based upon military successes and how people behave, the general mindset of the military unit.
11:56 AM - CakeZ: Yeee.
11:56 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Jesus fuck.
11:57 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: That sounds rather fun for rp.
11:57 AM - CakeZ: I'd hope so.
11:57 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: You're doing this all yourself?
11:58 AM - CakeZ: Mostly.
11:58 AM - CakeZ: I'm taking it incredibly slow.
11:58 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: You making custom maps also?
11:58 AM - CakeZ: No, just model hacks and script.
11:58 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Ah.
11:58 AM - CakeZ: I've collected 113 potential maps to use over the course of this, though.
11:58 AM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Holy shit.
11:58 AM - CakeZ: I'm really looking forward to what Iraq will play like.
11:59 AM - CakeZ: I'm trying to avoid a consistent HL2 theme.
11:59 AM - CakeZ: People seem to forget that Romania isn't the only place in the world.
12:00 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Huh.
12:00 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: So, it'd be taking place all over the world?
12:00 PM - CakeZ: Yeah, but not at random.
12:00 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: A military campaign then?
12:00 PM - CakeZ: Like, we won't be in an insurgency map one day, then a stalker map the next.
12:01 PM - CakeZ: There's a set of campaigns dictated by where we find ourselves.
12:01 PM - CakeZ: It'd be incredibly disorganized from the perspective of someone in character.
12:01 PM - CakeZ: Considering the reasons for our sudden moves between environments and areas of the Earth.
12:01 PM - CakeZ: But yeah, it wont be daily environmental changes.
12:02 PM - CakeZ: We'll go through sets of similar maps, and anyone who wants to have a non-story event should probably pick a map that's consistent in theme or environment with the campaign in progression.
12:02 PM - CakeZ: For example, if we're moving through Iraqi cities, someone shouldn't choose rp_city8. They should choose rp_wuste, or csdesert.
12:03 PM - CakeZ: And we'd have something to get us out of the populated area before we move back in. Implying the administration and I think it'd be a good idea to leave the campaign, that is.
12:04 PM - CakeZ: I'll see how it goes, though.
12:04 PM - CakeZ: The other guy's RP is still foggy for me.
12:04 PM - CakeZ: I don't really get it, and for him, it was kinda short notice.
12:04 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: I see.
12:05 PM - CakeZ: I would have liked him to administrate and run a second server on the same timeline as mine.
12:05 PM - CakeZ: He wants to do a two-faction military conflict and bystander R.
12:05 PM - CakeZ: RP.
12:05 PM - CakeZ: Mostly-static map selection.
12:06 PM - CakeZ: It would make the whole AWOL thing easier if and when the things preventing AWOL are eliminated ICly.
12:06 PM - CakeZ: But he has an aversion to the words Half-Life.
12:06 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: Huh.
12:07 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: So does my friend.
12:07 PM - CakeZ: A lot of people do.
12:07 PM - CakeZ: I don't like calling this a Military RP right off the bat, either.
12:07 PM - CakeZ: It makes me think of ShockCoreGaming.
12:07 PM - CakeZ: Shudders and crying.
12:08 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: /pats shoulder.
12:08 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: There there. It's okay.
12:08 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: We've all had scary experiences.
12:08 PM - CakeZ: spooks
12:08 PM - CakeZ: spooks are the scare be
12:08 PM - CakeZ: yrun
12:08 PM - CakeZ: yspoeoke server
12:08 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i remember rarp
12:08 PM - CakeZ: rarp
12:08 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: fucking venerable
12:08 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: ahahaha
12:08 PM - CakeZ: is venerable this emily person
12:09 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i think so
12:09 PM - CakeZ: lol
12:09 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: the guy
12:09 PM - CakeZ: someone on my friendslist was complaining about himher
12:09 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: posing as a chick
12:09 PM - CakeZ: idc if people genderbend
12:09 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: according to one of my dogs in my community
12:09 PM - CakeZ: just dont use it to garner attention
12:09 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: nor do i
12:09 PM - CakeZ: like opti
12:09 PM - CakeZ: opti uses it to garner attention
12:09 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: oh yes
12:10 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: did we ever figure out if ranameow is alive
12:10 PM - CakeZ: she is
12:10 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: amazing
12:10 PM - CakeZ: something happened though
12:10 PM - CakeZ: idk what
12:10 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: dex says she is a girl
12:10 PM - CakeZ: yeah
12:10 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: nuke said the opposite
12:10 PM - CakeZ: its too confusing though
12:10 PM - CakeZ: well you know nuke
12:10 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i know
12:10 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: crazy guy
12:10 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: funny too
12:11 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: add me on skype
12:11 PM - CakeZ: ugug
12:11 PM - CakeZ: i use ts3 now htough
12:11 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: oh
12:11 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: same here
12:11 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i have a ts3 server
12:11 PM - CakeZ: gime ur ip
12:11 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: ok
12:11 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: hre
12:11 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: pls no ddos
12:11 PM - CakeZ: i wont talk because im supposed to be doing homework
12:11 PM - CakeZ: implying i would
12:11 PM - CakeZ: im too busy with stupid shit regarding clockwork
12:11 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: 216.127.64.131:9946
12:12 PM - CakeZ: tldr kurozael is a fucking lying six year old twat
12:12 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i know
12:12 PM - CakeZ: and he needs to go away
12:12 PM - CakeZ: and studying legal is time consuming
12:12 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i read that you got b& off of c16
12:12 PM - CakeZ: did you know
12:12 PM - CakeZ: IP banned
12:12 PM - CakeZ: all posts removed
12:12 PM - CakeZ: account removed
12:12 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: wow
12:12 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: is he that scared of a coup
12:13 PM - CakeZ: its as if the highest rated person on the forum never existed
12:13 PM - CakeZ: it wasnt a coup lol
12:13 PM - CakeZ: we were trying to point something out
12:13 PM - CakeZ: to everyone else
12:13 PM - CakeZ: it worked for the most part
12:13 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: but is he scared of a coup
12:13 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: oh
12:13 PM - CakeZ: well probably
12:13 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: was it the tos
12:13 PM - CakeZ: what
12:13 PM - CakeZ: lol no
12:13 PM - CakeZ: not the tos
12:14 PM - CakeZ: its everything he's ever fucking done
12:14 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: oh
12:14 PM - CakeZ: all we did was make a bunch of departure threads
12:14 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i never followed conna
12:14 PM - CakeZ: see it was kinda a fuckup
12:14 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: he's too big of an hero
12:14 PM - CakeZ: because i got mad
12:14 PM - CakeZ: and when i get mad i get mad
12:14 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i know
12:14 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: you get mad
12:14 PM - CakeZ: we were supposed to make a bunch of departure threads to spook people, detailing why we left or telling people to ask on steam
12:15 PM - CakeZ: so the two supervisors
12:15 PM - CakeZ: other than audio
12:15 PM - CakeZ: he's our 'idgaf' internal agent
12:15 PM - CakeZ: so RJ and SomeSortOfDuck
12:15 PM - CakeZ: make departure threads
12:15 PM - CakeZ: a few days prior i said i'd leave if duck left
12:15 PM - CakeZ: so i make a departure thread
12:15 PM - CakeZ: kurozael takes note and locks t hem
12:15 PM - CakeZ: mind you this is a few days after something else i'll explain shortly
12:16 PM - CakeZ: he goes like
12:16 PM - CakeZ: 'oh good luck mates sorry that you're leaving'
12:16 PM - CakeZ: and he locks them
12:16 PM - CakeZ: mind you
12:16 PM - CakeZ: that's two supervisors and one crusader bailing
12:16 PM - CakeZ: so we start talking up all the other crusaders and legendaries
12:16 PM - CakeZ: 'hey guys this and this and this'
12:16 PM - CakeZ: and they all make departure threads save a few of them
12:16 PM - CakeZ: kurozael isnt online at this point
12:17 PM - CakeZ: so other people start getting like waddafaq
12:17 PM - CakeZ: and they start leaving
12:17 PM - CakeZ: finding out why and what's going on
12:17 PM - CakeZ: and kuro comes on
12:17 PM - CakeZ: that's when shit goes down
12:17 PM - CakeZ: he fucking deletes every goddamned departure thread
12:17 PM - CakeZ: all of them but rj's and duck's
12:17 PM - CakeZ: so i freak
12:18 PM - CakeZ: i thought the man would have the decency to allow us at least that
12:18 PM - CakeZ: so i start reposting mine, and a big gripe paragraph telling everyone exactly why we all fucking hate conna
12:18 PM - CakeZ: and he just keeps snipping it
12:18 PM - CakeZ: so i get angrier
12:18 PM - CakeZ: and i go
12:18 PM - CakeZ: "WHAT, CAN'T BAN US? Will it look incriminating?"
12:18 PM - CakeZ: cuz a few others were hounding questions on forums
12:19 PM - CakeZ: he was snipping those too
12:19 PM - CakeZ: so eventually, he deletes my account
12:19 PM - CakeZ: and everyone else ups and what the fucks
12:19 PM - CakeZ: and they either did the same or continued posting similar, bothering, insinuating, bringing it up
12:19 PM - CakeZ: just about everyone important left
12:19 PM - CakeZ: a few people deleted their plugin threads
12:19 PM - CakeZ: telling people to come to them for them
12:20 PM - CakeZ: they didnt want to be associated with c16
12:20 PM - CakeZ: and kurozael goes "no lol thats immature" and puts them back
12:20 PM - CakeZ: at this point i was on the highway on my phone
12:20 PM - CakeZ: so i keep making new accounts
12:20 PM - CakeZ: and he keeps IP banning cellphone towers
12:21 PM - CakeZ: but i keep posting and linking our facepunch thread in text
12:21 PM - CakeZ: and stuff
12:21 PM - CakeZ: and we later found out that he's pirated his store software
12:21 PM - CakeZ: so we've reported that
12:21 PM - CakeZ: uhh
12:21 PM - CakeZ: what elser
12:21 PM - CakeZ: oh i have legal ways to fuck him if he DMCA's me
12:22 PM - CakeZ: did you know that people can redistribute any of his products, according to his license
12:22 PM - CakeZ: without restriction
12:22 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i know
12:22 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: ellis told me
12:22 PM - CakeZ: so long as they dont modify it
12:22 PM - CakeZ: yeah and other things
12:22 PM - CakeZ: so what i want to do
12:22 PM - CakeZ: is open up a website to distribute
12:23 PM - CakeZ: but i'd have to get the schemas from something other than the c16 store
12:23 PM - CakeZ: so i dont have to agree to the ToS
12:23 PM - CakeZ: or just get someone else to do it
12:23 PM - CakeZ: for me
12:23 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: here
12:23 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i have
12:23 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: hl2rp
12:23 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: new vegas
12:23 PM - CakeZ: danek
12:23 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: and cider
12:23 PM - CakeZ: what
12:23 PM - CakeZ: are those the new ones or the gmodscripts .88a versions
12:23 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: new ones
12:23 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: :)
12:23 PM - CakeZ: oh swag
12:23 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: let me find the founder
12:23 PM - CakeZ: yeah and we made a crack that doesn't require a serial key
12:23 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: he bought cider
12:24 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i know
12:24 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i have it too
12:24 PM - CakeZ: its p great
12:24 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: for my nightmare server
12:24 PM - CakeZ: if you change your gamemode title with it conna can DMCA you
12:24 PM - CakeZ: so dont do that
12:24 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i havent
12:24 PM - CakeZ: ok
12:24 PM - CakeZ: if you want to, get a dev key
12:24 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: lol
12:24 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: gamemode title
12:24 PM - CakeZ: yeah like
12:24 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: do you mean the cw
12:24 PM - CakeZ: CW: Nightmare
12:25 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: or the full name
12:25 PM - CakeZ: either
12:25 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: fuk
12:25 PM - CakeZ: schemas are licensed separately from CW itself
12:25 PM - CakeZ: same license though
12:25 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: ok
12:25 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: so uh
12:25 PM - CakeZ: the thing i'm trying to figure out though
12:25 PM - CakeZ: is this 'publicly perform' concept
12:25 PM - CakeZ: i know that you cant redistribute a modified product for a fact
12:26 PM - CakeZ: but i dont know about using it publicly
12:26 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: wait
12:26 PM - CakeZ: and Creative Commons hasnt answered my email about it
12:26 PM - CakeZ: i know
12:26 PM - CakeZ: he doesnt follow his own license
12:26 PM - CakeZ: technically he can DMCA you for handing out plugins
12:27 PM - CakeZ: and if he can dmca for public performance of a modification he can DMCA anyone with a slightly modified schema
12:27 PM - CakeZ: like HaloRP and MERP
12:27 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: lol
12:27 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: this is spooky
12:27 PM - CakeZ: just for modifying
12:27 PM - CakeZ: this is why
12:27 PM - CakeZ: you dont fucking use Creative Commons licenses for software
12:27 PM - CakeZ: they explicitly say
12:27 PM - CakeZ: dont fucking do that
12:27 PM - CakeZ: and stop fucking emailing us about your legal problems please
12:27 PM - CakeZ: go use GPL
12:28 PM - CakeZ: which is the open source software licensing equivalent to CCPL
12:28 PM - CakeZ: but if you want to read up on the license he uses here you go
12:29 PM - CakeZ: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/legalcode
12:29 PM - CakeZ: and his ToS directly contradicts it
12:29 PM - CakeZ: "you cannot distribute c16 product"
12:29 PM - CakeZ: 3. License Grant. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Licensor hereby grants You a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual (for the duration of the applicable copyright) license to exercise the rights in the Work as stated below:

to Reproduce the Work, to incorporate the Work into one or more Collections, and to Reproduce the Work as incorporated in the Collections; and,
to Distribute and Publicly Perform the Work including as incorporated in Collections.
12:29 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: omfg
12:29 PM - CakeZ: to Distribute and Publicly Perform the Workto Distribute and Publicly Perform the Workto Distribute and Publicly Perform the Workto Distribute and Publicly Perform the Workto Distribute and Publicly Perform the Workto Distribute and Publicly Perform the Workto Distribute and Publicly Perform the Workto Distribute and Publicly Perform the Work
12:29 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: conna is an idiot
12:29 PM - CakeZ: ikr
12:30 PM - CakeZ: so if someone nabs CW without agreeing to the TOS
12:30 PM - CakeZ: and the only way to agree is to pay for it
12:30 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: so uh
12:30 PM - CakeZ: they can fucking hand it out for free
12:30 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: if i give it to you
12:30 PM - CakeZ: and hand out hte crack separately
12:30 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: you dont agree
12:30 PM - CakeZ: and tell people how to avoid DRM
12:30 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i'll just say that
12:30 PM - CakeZ: and they're legally safe
12:31 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: bah fuck it
12:31 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: i really dont care
12:31 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: lol
12:31 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: here
12:31 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: let me upload this shit
12:31 PM - CakeZ: dude not like he can tell how i got it and its not like i'd tell him
12:31 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: ofcourse
12:31 PM - CakeZ: anyway
12:31 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: but maybe he is super l33t haxor
12:31 PM - CakeZ: if he DMCA"s me
12:31 PM - CakeZ: i'm submitting a DMCA counter notification
12:31 PM - CakeZ: which mandates my content be restored until he takes me to court
12:32 PM - CakeZ: and there's things about that
12:32 PM - CakeZ: A.
12:32 PM - CakeZ: I can sue him for causing me difficulty.
12:32 PM - CakeZ: B.
12:32 PM - CakeZ: He takes me to court overseas, very expensive.
12:32 PM - CakeZ: C.
12:32 PM - CakeZ: He ignores it.
12:33 PM - CakeZ: And if he takes me to court overseas, I think I'll be alright. And if he loses the trial, I am entitled to financial compensation, and I can charge him for perjury.
12:33 PM - CakeZ: law works both ways conna
12:34 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: join ts
12:34 PM - CakeZ: oh yeah
12:34 PM - CakeZ: lost ip
12:34 PM - CakeZ: send
12:35 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: 216.127.64.131:9946
12:38 PM - CakeZ: http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1381164
12:38 PM - CakeZ: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
12:38 PM - Luna - GMOD is fixed resume life: lunaletsplay@gmail.com
12:40 PM - CakeZ: http://puu.sh/8f42E