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Jan 19th, 2015
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  1. Never tell your password to anyone.
  2. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: are you here about the memes?
  3. MY BOY MASON: no memes
  4. MY BOY MASON: its time for you to gitgud
  5. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: NO MEMES??
  6. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i already read any url and watched any video you can send me
  7. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i'm99% certain of that
  8. MY BOY MASON: So you know about chaq
  9. MY BOY MASON: chris
  10. MY BOY MASON: and simplydota?
  11. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i read chaq's guide when it came out
  12. MY BOY MASON: yet you dont play mid
  13. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: yes i do.
  14. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: my most played role is mid and position 5
  15. MY BOY MASON: pos5 is guaranteed loss
  16. MY BOY MASON: I dont see why people do it
  17. MY BOY MASON: I only do it when i have to waste time for some lpq game
  18. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i used to think that but now i don't. i'm really good with CM and VS. lately i've drank the kool aid and just try to put faith in my teammates and hope for the best
  19. MY BOY MASON: damn
  20. MY BOY MASON: that sucks
  21. MY BOY MASON: literally a pussy player right here
  22. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i dunno what exactly link you mean by chris and simplydota
  23. MY BOY MASON: you will never win like that
  24. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: welli could keep playing DP and keep winning 62% with her
  25. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: but its like playing dota on autopilot
  26. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: my eyes just glaze over shes so boring
  27. MY BOY MASON: I'll give you an introduction, dont blogpost meanwhile
  28. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: also you have to buy an urn or bracer or something on her now with the combination of her str nerf and other heroes doing more damage
  29. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and that kind of fucked her
  30. MY BOY MASON: dont blogpost
  31. MY BOY MASON: so i can write
  32. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: im going to the store to get a mountain dew (tm)
  33. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: write all you want
  34. MY BOY MASON: good
  35. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: ill be back in like 15
  36. MY BOY MASON: Chaq is the guide I used to learn about mid and have an understanding of lasthitting and switching my keyboard aroudn for efficiency.
  37. MY BOY MASON: Chris is my good friend, he is a semi pro and a legit player
  38. MY BOY MASON: Here is his feeder acc that he turned around and uses to coach. Look at that winrate.
  39. MY BOY MASON: http://www.dotabuff.com/players/123447796/matches
  40. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: >maining TA and slark
  41. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i'm not ever gonna play like that man
  42. MY BOY MASON: Look at the matches
  43. MY BOY MASON: He plays anything
  44. MY BOY MASON: TA and slark was to ensure his student would get a win
  45. MY BOY MASON: Look at, Venge Enigma, IO, NP
  46. MY BOY MASON: Even pudge
  47. MY BOY MASON: just consistent
  48. MY BOY MASON: He has some videos on youtube that goes on his thought process. You can watch them, there is especially one TA video that shows a game where is he is supposed to lose and throw. But by playing near perfect he wins with a low score of 7/0
  49. MY BOY MASON: I'll link
  50. MY BOY MASON: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9nwEvnTtp5pJJgORSdNFgA
  51. MY BOY MASON: This is a lane guide, and shows how you win offlane
  52. MY BOY MASON: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTUwNdyDG98
  53. MY BOY MASON: This is him playing with Slark and talking about how to not get greedy and to play smart
  54. MY BOY MASON: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aevEjb8bqOs
  55. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: re:slark and TA we have a philosophical difference bcause playing those heroes doesn't make you good at the game, it makes you good at those heroes. played well for 10 minutes you exceed the enemy's ability to control or kill you and automatically win the game. that's the pussy shit.
  56. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: same reason i played DP so much.
  57. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: going to store.
  58. MY BOY MASON: You main
  59. MY BOY MASON: thats the problem
  60. MY BOY MASON: he gets nerfed and then u cant play
  61. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i don't main. DP is less than 8% of my played games.
  62. MY BOY MASON: who cares
  63. MY BOY MASON: you keep saying dp
  64. MY BOY MASON: i really dont care, if you want to gitgud
  65. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: http://www.dotabuff.com/players/15865/heroes?metric=played look at my spread.
  66. MY BOY MASON: you will learn and not blogpost
  67. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: I play more different heroes on average than most players.
  68. MY BOY MASON: im not finished
  69. MY BOY MASON: im skimming the videos
  70. MY BOY MASON: that are good for you
  71. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: thanks. brb.
  72. MY BOY MASON: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi14AVe2PDw
  73. MY BOY MASON: Skip to 28, look how he wins mid by playing the game
  74. MY BOY MASON: 28 mins
  75. MY BOY MASON: Not necessary to watch that one fully
  76. MY BOY MASON: But the Slark and Weaver are a must watch, he just dominates whilst talking on about why. His students don't play carry, they play other positions mostly, so he is neutral and goes on why he is winning and why. They are good videos.
  77. MY BOY MASON: Next is the last
  78. MY BOY MASON: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3MBnrM5rtvHUSaQGNrSTjrQcne6dlfYg
  79. MY BOY MASON: This is the best shit, it actually helped me a lot, he actually goes on about the errors at different K's of MMRs.
  80. Patrick Swayze's Ghost is now Away.
  81. MY BOY MASON: Although the title is optimistic (Improve Your MMR Instantly!)
  82. MY BOY MASON: It fucking did.
  83. MY BOY MASON: Watch all of them, they are 1h long each but they are lessons. Not Na'Vi 3 min tricks to easy mmr abuse.
  84. MY BOY MASON: that you often see to get views
  85. MY BOY MASON: So here they are in order incase you cant be bothered to scroll up:
  86. MY BOY MASON: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTUwNdyDG98
  87. MY BOY MASON: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aevEjb8bqOs
  88. MY BOY MASON: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi14AVe2PDw
  89. MY BOY MASON: (skip to around 28 mins)
  90. MY BOY MASON: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3MBnrM5rtvHUSaQGNrSTjrQcne6dlfYg
  91. MY BOY MASON: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QMBvPsQZZ8
  92. MY BOY MASON: (This is iceiceice invoker guide, it was actually quite good as he talks about the other player being trash and he is winning
  93. MY BOY MASON: atm because iceiceice is being too passive
  94. MY BOY MASON: and is tunnelvisioning
  95. MY BOY MASON: But then he says "I can also play the game"
  96. MY BOY MASON: and fucking wrecks the other player mid and rants about how stupid he was not checking the other players mana pool which most low mmr players dont do
  97. MY BOY MASON: There are a bunch of shit I can list you dont know, but if you watch these videos you will understand the game more and more. Please dont blogpost about some fuckign picks or that you know the game. Accept it, you don't. You are just trying to find a reason that you are shit. I was fucking 3k mmr a time ago. Now I can beat my 6k mmr friend mid and I now play smurfs just to have fun. Drop this main like I did and learn the game.
  98. MY BOY MASON: Nowadays I play with 5-6k mmr players, no one knows that I was 3k mmr at one point as it doesn't show. I'm hugely different in playstyle. I make accounts to practice heroes and fuck around, I dont want to ruin my second mmr with some troll games as I dont like LPQ.
  99. MY BOY MASON: If you click my profile, you can see a gray avatar guy. He is 6k. He also has 10 smurfs, some other guys on my friends list on this acc are his smurfs.
  100. MY BOY MASON: This is because we want challenge in these pubs, not going against FotM mainers, although we go against them these guys also have the odds against them as we are much better.
  101. MY BOY MASON: Please don't reply with your shoddy story as to why you are bad. Admitting is wrong is the first step, enlarge this Steam window and read it all. I don't have time to give you a psychology report. The shit I listed is all I needed to git gud when I was fucking trash at one point. Replays never helped me, watching these guys under stress fucking helped me a lot.
  102. MY BOY MASON: Also here is a link,
  103. MY BOY MASON: http://dota2gym.com/pages/misc/thoughts
  104. MY BOY MASON: I can't say I used it but skimming through is stuff I know already but it could help you as a reminder of the shit you don't know. this link will not help you become good. It is more like a checklist. Go visit the videos, they are teachers.
  105. Patrick Swayze's Ghost is now Online.
  106. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i ended up talking to this guy at the gas station about the vidya for like 20 minutes, im back
  107. MY BOY MASON: nice
  108. MY BOY MASON: read my shit
  109. MY BOY MASON: dont blogpost
  110. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i know the game
  111. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i do shit like check the other players mana pool
  112. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: theres nothing i dont do
  113. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you have to understand i've been playing video games for almost 30 years
  114. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: every skill that exists in dota is natural to me
  115. MY BOY MASON: pls m8, go do the stuff. No blogposting if you were any good you would not have this discussion with me. Literally dunning krueger
  116. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i am probably twice as oldas you are
  117. MY BOY MASON: Dunning krueger, sorry
  118. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: okay bye
  119. MY BOY MASON: please
  120. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: tl;dr
  121. MY BOY MASON: read
  122. MY BOY MASON: my
  123. MY BOY MASON: shit
  124. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: being insulting isn't the way to get anyone to listen to you
  125. MY BOY MASON: im not being insulting you are literally going by the dunning krueger marks
  126. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you'd realize that if you weren't like 16 and just "trying to help me" because you're clearly on adderall
  127. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: it's dunning-kruger.
  128. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: don't spit out something that you don't even know the name of.
  129. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: it makes you look stupid to educated people.
  130. MY BOY MASON: of course, I know how to spell it but I can't multitask your feelings and grammar nazism
  131. MY BOY MASON: read my shit
  132. MY BOY MASON: take a breather if you are riled up
  133. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i already closed the window, it's gone.
  134. MY BOY MASON: dont worry
  135. MY BOY MASON: I can pastebin it
  136. MY BOY MASON: for you
  137. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you lost me the moment you said "dunning krueger"
  138. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you have to get past things like that to effectively converse with people.
  139. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i'm not one of these teen kids on d2g.
  140. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i'm not going to brook that disrespect
  141. MY BOY MASON: Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i know the game
  142. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i do shit like check the other players mana pool
  143. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: theres nothing i dont do
  144. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you have to understand i've been playing video games for almost 30 years
  145. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: every skill that exists in dota is natural to me
  146. MY BOY MASON: you wrote that
  147. MY BOY MASON: did you not?
  148. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because it's true
  149. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: give me a hero to play and watch my game
  150. MY BOY MASON: You are trash, but you wrote that. How are you not a prime example of dunning krueger
  151. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: see what you take from that
  152. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: that'd be more informative for both of us
  153. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: why are you being insulting?
  154. MY BOY MASON: Watching the videos would help you more than I could
  155. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i don't care to be told i'm trash
  156. MY BOY MASON: You never been coached before?
  157. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i don't talk to people about this game outside of shitposting on dd2g
  158. MY BOY MASON: You think a coach will be nice to you if you won't change
  159. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: who said i wouldn't change?
  160. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i said don't be disrespectful.
  161. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i am a scientist. the moment proof is available that there is a better way to do something my position immediately changes
  162. MY BOY MASON: I'm your coach if you take me, I will be mean to you to break your attitude.
  163. MY BOY MASON: That's how we do it now.
  164. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you can't break my attitude.
  165. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i'm 32.
  166. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you're a kid.
  167. MY BOY MASON: I don't care.
  168. MY BOY MASON: In dota 2 world, you dont have an age
  169. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i have a college degree and have worked high level jobs. i live with my girlfriend.
  170. MY BOY MASON: to me you are a student who needs help
  171. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you are a hotpocket man.
  172. MY BOY MASON: Yes
  173. MY BOY MASON: I do it for free
  174. MY BOY MASON: So
  175. MY BOY MASON: Do you seek help or not
  176. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: spec my game
  177. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: give me a hero to play
  178. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i didn't say to coach it
  179. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i said to spec it
  180. MY BOY MASON: Okay
  181. MY BOY MASON: I will chec
  182. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: be quick
  183. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: 20 seconds
  184. MY BOY MASON: pick any mid hero
  185. MY BOY MASON: TA if you will
  186. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: huskar already took mid
  187. MY BOY MASON: okay
  188. MY BOY MASON: can you take offlane
  189. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: 'm oflane puck
  190. MY BOY MASON: nice
  191. MY BOY MASON: perfect
  192. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: against AA invoker void TA brood
  193. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: so basically they're fucked automatically by my pick
  194. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you really think i'm trash? lawl
  195. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i don't play particularly well when i know people are watching me
  196. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: excuses aren't gonna help though
  197. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: just warning you
  198. MY BOY MASON: I don't care for the end results. This is to see at what skill level you are. It is very common in coaching.
  199. MY BOY MASON: You say you play fine and know gamemechanics.
  200. MY BOY MASON: I doubt it, now we will see.
  201. MY BOY MASON: I will give you small tips but commend on shit you do. Don't play like dendi.
  202. MY BOY MASON: If you go 10/0, it doesn't matter as you couldve jsut beaten 1k mmr
  203. MY BOY MASON: This is about player performance
  204. MY BOY MASON: Ok first, off you have two fucking salves.
  205. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: misclick
  206. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: literal misclick
  207. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: probably have never done that in my life
  208. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: didnt even realize
  209. MY BOY MASON: And are diving two players under their own creeps giving them all the reason to try to kill you
  210. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: no, i wasn't diving under tower.
  211. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i'm puck.
  212. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: stop typing nonsense.
  213. MY BOY MASON: Yes, bbut you are also puck with no hp
  214. MY BOY MASON: And sticks
  215. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: stop commenting on everything
  216. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: it's distracting
  217. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: thanks
  218. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: save comments for after game
  219. MY BOY MASON: You have never been coached
  220. MY BOY MASON: I will commend
  221. MY BOY MASON: ignore the window
  222. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: what mmr are you even?
  223. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because if you don't agree on me harassing and killing AA like i did
  224. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: then you're bad.
  225. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because there's no way i could be killed there.
  226. MY BOY MASON: I don't agree with you harassing AA, go fucking creep block. All he needs is a tango and a rotation from someone and you are fucking dead
  227. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: then you're wrong
  228. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: simple as that
  229. MY BOY MASON: Don't chat
  230. MY BOY MASON: Pay attention to the game
  231. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i watch minimap 100% of the time
  232. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: at ALL times
  233. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: nobody can rotate
  234. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i know where they are
  235. MY BOY MASON: You have 0/2
  236. MY BOY MASON: Kill creeps
  237. MY BOY MASON: Why the fuck did you upgrade to magic wand against void and aa
  238. MY BOY MASON: That's 200g gone
  239. MY BOY MASON: Go farm bottle so you can actually harass
  240. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: stop
  241. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: after game
  242. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you are distracting me
  243. MY BOY MASON: No this is how coaching works
  244. MY BOY MASON: You dont move around a lot, you keep going away from void when he is a melee. Even ES harasses him.
  245. MY BOY MASON: Kill creeps and harass
  246. MY BOY MASON: Don't go treads first
  247. MY BOY MASON: Get bottle
  248. MY BOY MASON: and boots
  249. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: ok
  250. MY BOY MASON: As you are maxing orb
  251. MY BOY MASON: Send it when es stuns
  252. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: NOS HIT THANKS BRO
  253. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: DURRRRR
  254. MY BOY MASON: or when Void is trapped between creeps
  255. MY BOY MASON: as he cant move away
  256. MY BOY MASON: you have full mana but dont use it
  257. MY BOY MASON: you are not invoker
  258. MY BOY MASON: dont go 3-1-1 as puck
  259. MY BOY MASON: its more viable to go 2-2-1
  260. MY BOY MASON: As the dmg from the burst is much reliable as they can try to dodge your orb
  261. MY BOY MASON: You couldnt kill him off there
  262. MY BOY MASON: and he comes back to chrono you
  263. MY BOY MASON: You are puck, go bottle first not boots. if you were a real offlaner boots first and stout would work
  264. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i don't need micromanagement
  265. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: these things come down to your opinion
  266. MY BOY MASON: you have 9 lh, thats like 1cs/min
  267. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: fucking died talking to you
  268. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because i'm not csing
  269. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: stop fucking adderalling out bro
  270. MY BOY MASON: I told you dont chat
  271. MY BOY MASON: Play the game
  272. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i don't need you to comment on every little thing
  273. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: comment on GREATER things
  274. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: IDEAS
  275. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: NOTIONS
  276. MY BOY MASON: This is literally how you coach in dota
  277. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: no, it's not
  278. MY BOY MASON: you are not playing the game
  279. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you don't know how to fucking do a single thing in life kid
  280. MY BOY MASON: that may be but I know how to play dota
  281. MY BOY MASON: Now go back to the game and stop sounding witty
  282. MY BOY MASON: Dont hit the siege turret which is behind the tower, the creeps will do it for you. You wasted time when you couldve hit the t1 tower
  283. MY BOY MASON: One thing I notice a lot is that you watch the minimap and not your screen
  284. MY BOY MASON: If you see enemies on the minimap
  285. MY BOY MASON: instaclick there
  286. MY BOY MASON: and check their items
  287. MY BOY MASON: you dont do that
  288. MY BOY MASON: Void having full mana means he can come and chrono someone
  289. MY BOY MASON: due to the mana changes on his ult
  290. MY BOY MASON: Ulting brood was a waste, if someone rotates now you are dead. he has full hp and you have no detection
  291. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i turned off message notifications
  292. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i won't see these until after game
  293. MY BOY MASON: good
  294. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: timestamp your messages
  295. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: based on in game time
  296. MY BOY MASON: 13:00 You are csing against two other teammates. You have a bottle, spam your shit and get the 3 last hits
  297. MY BOY MASON: You wont get ganked as 3 v 1
  298. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: stupid death to brood -_-
  299. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: wastedmy orb
  300. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: this is the type of shit i do when i'm being watched that i don't do solo
  301. MY BOY MASON: 13:30 You have a sentry early down. That only works on riki and bh.
  302. MY BOY MASON: Having early sentry down notifies brood that it is there when you attack her spiderlings whilst they are invis
  303. MY BOY MASON: Now she can happily creepcut near the top instead of the bottom
  304. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: we're going to auto lose due to disconnect
  305. MY BOY MASON: As my first messages said I dont care about end score
  306. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: this is why my win rate doesn't rise
  307. MY BOY MASON: or your kda
  308. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: not player skill
  309. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: shit like this
  310. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: *I* CARE ABOUT IT
  311. MY BOY MASON: If you read my shit that you tried to remove, you wouldve realized what I am trying to learn you
  312. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and meepo can't play meepo
  313. MY BOY MASON: I really wish you would stop talking, go play the game. You really never check what mana or items people have or ping them out/their items. You said you do shit like this
  314. MY BOY MASON: That simplydota first video, goes on about this its amazing
  315. MY BOY MASON: But you want this hard and raw
  316. MY BOY MASON: fyi. you should have 70-90 lh at 15 mins. A carry usually gets 80-90 at 10 mins for comparison
  317. MY BOY MASON: You are also puck
  318. MY BOY MASON: Using your orb and rift on a creepwave should secure 5 lh easily
  319. MY BOY MASON: If you farmed like I do you would have a blink by now and treads 1 min later
  320. MY BOY MASON: from a quick kill with dagger
  321. MY BOY MASON: You autoattack, please stop with that
  322. MY BOY MASON: If you cant get the cs, just use your ability
  323. MY BOY MASON: You for no reason used your coil on a terrorblade who can swap your health and go into metamorphosis state
  324. MY BOY MASON: You silenced him by walking up to him, that guy is fucking at t2 tower
  325. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: meepo tower dives t3 them blames me for dying
  326. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: he's trash
  327. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and slark abandoned
  328. MY BOY MASON: I dont care
  329. MY BOY MASON: play the game
  330. MY BOY MASON: you said you do, but you dont
  331. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: huskar should've gone in
  332. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and didn't
  333. MY BOY MASON: your screen movement is horrid. You move your mouse in short distances
  334. MY BOY MASON: Oh nevermind
  335. MY BOY MASON: You move your screen to your hero a lot
  336. MY BOY MASON: dont do that
  337. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: um no
  338. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: there's no reason there's anything wrong with that
  339. MY BOY MASON: Here is what you do
  340. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: it's to center my screen
  341. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i middle mouse pan
  342. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you probably dont even middle mouse pan
  343. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: which means youre mechanically bad
  344. MY BOY MASON: It looks horrid, it shows you no information you already know
  345. MY BOY MASON: You just have this awkward cutting
  346. MY BOY MASON: You should be looking at other lanes
  347. MY BOY MASON: and see what other people are doing
  348. MY BOY MASON: and then cut back
  349. MY BOY MASON: I scout and check what my teammates have, creep eq, and look for enemies
  350. MY BOY MASON: then I cut back
  351. MY BOY MASON: that takes 5 seconds at most, it is an update to uinderstand what his happening
  352. MY BOY MASON: so that I dont challenge void whilst he has full mana and a fucking mom
  353. MY BOY MASON: whilst I expect my teammate with boots only to come and help
  354. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: this team is awful
  355. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: how can you even compare me to them
  356. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: when they just tried to rosh with no vision
  357. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: with all missing
  358. MY BOY MASON: You are not playing well I gotta say
  359. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and they wont go where brood is
  360. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because game is already lost
  361. MY BOY MASON: All I get are excuses and insults
  362. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: push team 4v5 and my team is bad
  363. MY BOY MASON: Play the game
  364. MY BOY MASON: You are not doign it
  365. MY BOY MASON: 99% of the time youa re looking at your own hero
  366. MY BOY MASON: stop
  367. MY BOY MASON: Dont heal up with bottle at treads at str
  368. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: im mentally given up already
  369. MY BOY MASON: put it on agility
  370. MY BOY MASON: and heal up
  371. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: first useful thing youve said.
  372. MY BOY MASON: No
  373. MY BOY MASON: you are being annoying and cherrypicking information that is useful to you.
  374. MY BOY MASON: You now think tread switching is the higher end shit
  375. MY BOY MASON: thats how bad it is
  376. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i tread switch.
  377. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i just never thought about it with bottle.
  378. MY BOY MASON: You couldve sent orb at brood you sent it at the creeps
  379. MY BOY MASON: He is sieging
  380. MY BOY MASON: and you send them at the creeps
  381. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i shot it at brood she dodged.
  382. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: wrong.
  383. MY BOY MASON: Yes but at an awkward angle
  384. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: oh great slark came back to feed.
  385. MY BOY MASON: you sent it to the leftmost
  386. MY BOY MASON: position
  387. MY BOY MASON: of the web
  388. MY BOY MASON: where nobody generally is
  389. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i can't play with you talking to me
  390. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because i am compelled to respond
  391. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and its taken me totally out of the game
  392. MY BOY MASON: brood will naturally hide to the right near the trees
  393. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: cant farm or last hit
  394. MY BOY MASON: No
  395. MY BOY MASON: I am watching you and you are just lingering
  396. MY BOY MASON: running around
  397. MY BOY MASON: you dont have a plan
  398. MY BOY MASON: literally no plan
  399. MY BOY MASON: you just sulk in the forest
  400. MY BOY MASON: and occassionally respond to me to pass time
  401. MY BOY MASON: You let 2 cs pass by
  402. MY BOY MASON: because you were tunnelvisioning that blink at sideshop 3 sec early
  403. MY BOY MASON: really stupid, dont ignore creeps
  404. MY BOY MASON: if you think you are gonna get ganked suddenly, you can always instapurchase it with quickbuy
  405. MY BOY MASON: you are also doing 2k mmr shit by never having tps
  406. MY BOY MASON: You look at the minimap a lot, but dont click over there
  407. MY BOY MASON: you have no idea what is going on in the teamfights aswell
  408. MY BOY MASON: Again now you are scouting brood and invoker
  409. MY BOY MASON: and dont know what level, mana or items they have
  410. MY BOY MASON: You bursted the easiest jungle creeps with your only escapes in the enemy jungle
  411. MY BOY MASON: dont do that
  412. MY BOY MASON: last hit properly with auto attack unless it is a stack or bigger creeps
  413. MY BOY MASON: You are also trying to gank finally as lvl 12 at 30 mins
  414. MY BOY MASON: When you bursted at those jungle creeps you were left with 50 mana, not smart
  415. MY BOY MASON: Blinking out wont always work if the invoker is good adn just simply right clicks you
  416. MY BOY MASON: and tornados
  417. MY BOY MASON: You call your team trash but you have yet to participate in a teamfight with your lvl 1 coil
  418. MY BOY MASON: Again the mousemovement is really bad
  419. MY BOY MASON: Now they fight mid and you head to look at a jungle camp to ward
  420. MY BOY MASON: You used orb in the jungle, aiming at the other medium camp but you dont even at the creeps there since you have no idea what position the jungle creeps are at
  421. MY BOY MASON: that is really alarming
  422. MY BOY MASON: again you keep bottling up with str treads
  423. MY BOY MASON: agility for efficiency
  424. MY BOY MASON: as you wont have to switch to int
  425. MY BOY MASON: to lose mana from that bottle
  426. MY BOY MASON: or gain extra str
  427. MY BOY MASON: now you put down a ward against a void walking down to you
  428. MY BOY MASON: are you some kind of pro now gonna dodge a potential chron
  429. MY BOY MASON: its a fight for invoker
  430. MY BOY MASON: you instead dont look at the time 31.50 when there is no rune obviouslty
  431. MY BOY MASON: but you still check
  432. MY BOY MASON: let invoker get away
  433. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: uhh
  434. MY BOY MASON: and wait there 10 seconds
  435. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you're telling me shit like
  436. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i was going to miss the medium camp with orbs
  437. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: im sorry but its just not even possible
  438. MY BOY MASON: you did
  439. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: dont comment on things like that
  440. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: um no
  441. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: they're mud golems
  442. MY BOY MASON: You did
  443. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: no, i did not
  444. MY BOY MASON: you didnt know that
  445. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: they were mud golems
  446. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: yes that's why i shot an orb
  447. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because i was fighting mud golems
  448. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and hoped the other camp would be otherwise
  449. MY BOY MASON: you are inefficient as fuck
  450. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: instead of giving advice you're making shit up, assuming i'm garbage and lying
  451. MY BOY MASON: you even farm the mudgolems
  452. MY BOY MASON: as a puck
  453. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because you are watching me
  454. MY BOY MASON: that is just stupid
  455. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and my mind is out of the game
  456. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because of early abandon
  457. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and talking to you
  458. MY BOY MASON: you spent one full minute trying to kill them
  459. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: when i talk to a person in the game it puts my mind
  460. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: completely out of the game
  461. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: im barely playing
  462. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i cant do this
  463. MY BOY MASON: the thing is
  464. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and you ay outright lies like i missed the camp with orb
  465. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: which is a lie
  466. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you cannot miss the camp with orb if you aim at it
  467. MY BOY MASON: you are just like any player that says "i dont care, its unranked/ranked I just want to have fun
  468. MY BOY MASON: or some excuse
  469. MY BOY MASON: "I hope we lose i wont play"
  470. MY BOY MASON: but
  471. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: except i dont say that
  472. MY BOY MASON: you guys are so trash
  473. MY BOY MASON: you cant even play the gmae
  474. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i say i do everything i can to try and get better
  475. MY BOY MASON: if you tried
  476. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: dude im not reading anything you said
  477. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: goodbye
  478. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: fucking nasty little kid
  479. MY BOY MASON: wow
  480. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: learn to interact with people
  481. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: fat little virgin faggot
  482. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: im glad i wasted your time
  483. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: probably 3.8k mmr
  484. MY BOY MASON: You think im insulting you when you play badly and wont take constructive criticism
  485. MY BOY MASON: You are saying you dont care
  486. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: youre a nasty little fat virgin
  487. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: go suck a fat dick
  488. MY BOY MASON: I mean you play cs
  489. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you arent cut out to give advice
  490. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: no, i dont
  491. MY BOY MASON: Think of me as a glock player
  492. MY BOY MASON: whilst everyone has m4a1
  493. MY BOY MASON: at the last round
  494. MY BOY MASON: And going
  495. MY BOY MASON: man im out of it
  496. MY BOY MASON: i dont care
  497. MY BOY MASON: i have the potential to help
  498. MY BOY MASON: but no fuck this last round
  499. MY BOY MASON: this is lost anyway
  500. MY BOY MASON: lmao!!!!!!!
  501. MY BOY MASON: Come on
  502. MY BOY MASON: Don't be like that
  503. MY BOY MASON: The time you start improving is when you play the game you have installed on your computer.
  504. MY BOY MASON: If you are 32 and sucking in DotA 2 BY CHOICE then I think it is time to uninstall. See this is the first personal insult.
  505. MY BOY MASON: You dont want me to talk like that
  506. MY BOY MASON: Neither do I
  507. MY BOY MASON: I am pointing out the mistakes I feel are important for you to look at
  508. MY BOY MASON: I'm not even giving you the real tips, just directing you to auto-pilot shit anyone can do that you won't.
  509. MY BOY MASON: Your team won in the end with a braindead meepo and huskar
  510. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i already removed you
  511. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: how am i still getting your messages
  512. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: yes i contributed 0 to that game and we won
  513. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and that is why i dont "get better" at dota
  514. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because you cant play with good players
  515. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: unless you boost or smurf
  516. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i had literally
  517. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: no contribution whatsoever
  518. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: to that game
  519. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and we won
  520. Patrick Swayze's Ghost is now Offline.
  521. MY BOY MASON: Seriously, I tried to help you. But you don't want help. It's scary. The only way I think you could get help if you actually paid for tutoring from some site so that you have an incentive.
  522. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you don't try to help.
  523. Patrick Swayze's Ghost is currently offline, they will receive your message the next time they log in.
  524. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you just insult like a 4chan user.
  525. MY BOY MASON: This is the first match
  526. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: it is your whole personality.
  527. MY BOY MASON: This is how it always goes
  528. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: a website you use built who you are.
  529. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you have no personality of your own
  530. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and you say shit that is patently wrong
  531. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: like i shouldn't have harassed AA at the beginning
  532. MY BOY MASON: I tutor randoms that want help, we always do the first game to see what skill level they really are then we break those errors.
  533. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i could not be killed and could escape with orb
  534. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and got the kill
  535. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: so you were outright wrong
  536. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: about the FIRST THING
  537. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: YOU SAID
  538. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: so you are in no position to give me advice whatsoever
  539. MY BOY MASON: So far you have been telling me you are out of it, but now that you win.
  540. MY BOY MASON: You tell me that you actually helped your team win
  541. MY BOY MASON: with no coils in teamfights or even teamfight participation
  542. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: um
  543. MY BOY MASON: except that one near sideshop where void tried to gank you
  544. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you didnt even read my messages
  545. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: where i just said 3 times
  546. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i contributed nothing
  547. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: ims aying
  548. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: when the first thing out of your mouth is outright wrong
  549. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you cannot tell me anything about the game
  550. MY BOY MASON: I dunno
  551. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: harassing AA like i did was the right thing to do
  552. MY BOY MASON: that example is more like
  553. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because he had no way to fight back
  554. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: its me having game sense
  555. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: which you lack
  556. MY BOY MASON: I did right one thing, now nullify the other stuff !!!
  557. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and probably being a better player
  558. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: than you
  559. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: how many other video games
  560. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: have you ever put time into
  561. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: other than dota?
  562. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: becuase that matters
  563. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i bet the answer is 1 or 0
  564. MY BOY MASON: I dont get this, I'm coaching you and all you want to do is get personal with me.
  565. MY BOY MASON: For what reason?
  566. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because you cant shut your mouth with the way you talk
  567. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: in an insulting manner
  568. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you arent coaching me
  569. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because you told me one useful thing
  570. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and otherwise you insulted
  571. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and lied
  572. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and said INCORRECT THINGS
  573. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: LIKE THE VERY FIRST THING YOU SAID
  574. MY BOY MASON: I dunno, you go to places like 4chan but expect it to be reddit hubox. Also my insults are me commenting on stuff you said I should comment on.
  575. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because you dont have a feel for the game
  576. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: boy
  577. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: ive been on 4chan since 2006
  578. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: ive been on the internet since 1994
  579. MY BOY MASON: See
  580. MY BOY MASON: again
  581. MY BOY MASON: you get too personal
  582. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: ive been part of groups that were
  583. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: 10 times worse
  584. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: than 4chan ever was
  585. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: "expect it to be reddit"
  586. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you have that typical teen mentality
  587. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: LOLA NYONE I DONT LIKE IS REDDIT
  588. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: BECAUSE THINGS ARE BLACK AND WHITE TO ME
  589. MY BOY MASON: Where does it give you the right to be offended when you are clearly asking for help?
  590. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX
  591. MY BOY MASON: Who gave you the right to cry when I am doing the first match basis as a coach
  592. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: your screen movement is horrid. You move your mouse in short distances
  593. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: shit like this is not helpful
  594. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i KNOW you edge pan
  595. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: my screen movement is far better than yours
  596. MY BOY MASON: I don't understand, I have had sea players who give me respect and tell me that they understand that their errors was stupid and should be fixed
  597. MY BOY MASON: I even use voice chat with them, you want me to comment on you through steamchat window and get surprised that you cant pay attention
  598. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i have higher apm than you
  599. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: my screen is exactly where i want it at all times
  600. MY BOY MASON: You say you have higher APM, but 99% of your time
  601. MY BOY MASON: you have your hero in view
  602. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: own up to the fact that the first thing you told me was wrong
  603. MY BOY MASON: and flick to it every other second
  604. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and realize that when the first thing out of your mouth is wrong
  605. MY BOY MASON: how do you get high APM from that?
  606. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: nobody cares about anything else you say
  607. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: its called a first impression
  608. MY BOY MASON: I dunno, that flicking was the first shit I've seen it used nonironcally wrongl and being defended.
  609. MY BOY MASON: Like how do you get information from the game
  610. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: are you kidding me?
  611. MY BOY MASON: by having your hero 99% in the center of the screen
  612. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: edge pan is inexact movement
  613. MY BOY MASON: and not looking at other stuff
  614. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you cant control where you want the screen to be accurately
  615. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: middle mouse pan or wasd pan is the only way a good player moves
  616. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: that game wasnt an example of my games
  617. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: that game was an example of me playing position 5 puck
  618. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: while i talk to a guy
  619. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and get aggravated by him constantly messaging
  620. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: and have an abandon
  621. MY BOY MASON: You are advocating for mechanics you dont cant even properly use. what use for you does it have then
  622. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: i had 0 focus ever in the game
  623. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: LOL
  624. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: yeah ill go edge pan
  625. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: so i can not have control over where my screen is in an accurate manner
  626. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: objectively inferior
  627. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: step your game up edge panner
  628. MY BOY MASON: I could give a gun to a guy with no arms, and he'd give me reasons why the gun is deadly but he couldnt use it
  629. MY BOY MASON: that's what you are doing atm
  630. MY BOY MASON: You literally had no idea what items the other team had
  631. MY BOY MASON: or their levels
  632. MY BOY MASON: You gank as lvl 12 puck solo ion their jungle at 30 mins
  633. MY BOY MASON: and dont even find anyone there
  634. MY BOY MASON: for 3 mins
  635. MY BOY MASON: then you leave and go into your side of the map
  636. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: saying the mouse movement is bad is outright wrong
  637. MY BOY MASON: go to the jungle
  638. MY BOY MASON: and hit golems for 1 mins
  639. MY BOY MASON: dont want to play the game but end up 0/5/9 as puck and now say you were pos5 when offlane
  640. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: because i have better control over my camera than most players
  641. MY BOY MASON: No you do not, most of the time you pray that some hero walks into your camera shot so that you know he is actually there
  642. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: yes, i do
  643. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: im done talking to you
  644. MY BOY MASON: You can't say shit like that, you don't even click on your minimap
  645. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: you dont have the chops to give advice
  646. Patrick Swayze's Ghost: bye
  647. MY BOY MASON: I dunno
  648. MY BOY MASON: Kinda retarded to give statements like that
  649. MY BOY MASON: and expect no one to counter you
  650. MY BOY MASON: There is a replay feature
  651. MY BOY MASON: Go download said match
  652. MY BOY MASON: look at your perspective
  653. MY BOY MASON: and the brainless meepo
  654. MY BOY MASON: He will still be better than you with the camera
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