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  1. The purpose of this thread is to explain through logical conclusions mixed with "plausible ideas" that magic is, in fact, pretty damn real. Of course since the source of all this is my own thought I may be a bit biased, but my explainations do not require occult, psychic, biblical, astral or whatever kind of typical fringe-knowledge.
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  3. Because of this I like to think that this thread will be very helpfull for people new to this board.
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  5. The definition of magic here is "manipulating physical reality". We're talking, for example, telekinesis, flying, throwing fireballs, manipulation of probability or just "making things happen" in general. Obviously you are not seeing a lot of this around you, but I can explain why.
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  7. But first of all you need to understand: You can already do this, and you probably did. And you did it in your DREAMS. Obviously that doesn't count, you may think, but the chances of reality itself just being a dream are extremely high. How so? Think of it this way: Science tells us that there are many, many different universes because of the string theory. Even if we don't believe in it the chance of the birth of our universe being a totally unique, special thing is pretty low considering that the requirements for it's birth - simple nonexistance - are easily met. So the chances of there being infinite universes is pretty high. The "problem" is, though: Each of these universes contains many, many virtual universes. Computers today are already very capable of creating virtual worlds. While we are not yet at the stage of moving conciousness there we will probably soon be and then it's only a matter of complexity as for how real a world has to seem in order to be officially considered "real". However, we are already way ahead of this. We ourself create virtual worlds every night - our brains are very capable computers and they throw us into reality simulations every night and usually we can't even tell that they are not real and if we do it's not because of a lack of quality of the simulation, but because weird shit happens there that doesn't make sense in the "real" world.
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  9. So, each brain has the potential to create a universe. Though while there already are people who go so "crazy" that they literally live in their own little world in their heads, let's keep it real though: What our brains can create is probably still not complex enough to keep up with the world we live in. That's not a problem though. Because the universe is way bigger then the world we actually observe, and way older then us. All it needs is ONE planet per universe where beings live that are capable of dreaming up universes and the chance of a the universe you just so happen to live in to be a dream or simulation skyrockets. And it goes without saying that this shit goes full Inception too, with dreams/simulations being possible WITHIN the dreams/simulations.
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  11. So, I think the point I tried to make has been made. While not entirely impossible, the chance of this universe being a dream is ridiculously high.
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  13. "Ok, cool, so what?", you may be thinking. "I still can't do in this dream what I can do in my own."
  14. Of course, and there are reasons for this.
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  16. First of all, obviously this dream is not dreamed by one person alone. There are many, many conciousnesses within this dream that also exist and also dream. I suspect that this is what makes such a complex universe possible in the first place, as more dreamers mean more processing power for the simulation. But that also means that the power over this dream is divided between every soul, which limits the individual amount of control you have. So you're not the allmighty god you are in your own dream.
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  18. However, another limiting factor is much bigger then this one. To be fair I must disclaim though that this is more of an idea then a logical conclusion. '''While you are currently inside of a dream, you are not in a dream-state'''. You are awake right now. You are not dreaming. This basically means that you experience this dream in a "experience"-mode, not a "create"-mode, so to speak. When you are asleep and dreaming you obviously create you own reality, so what's different?
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  20. For this you need to think about what makes you dream in the first place. The answer is: DMT. A drug your brain releases to put you into the dream-state. This substance is called the "spirit particle" by spiritual communities everywhere and most consider it the holy grail of spiritual drugs. However, if you were to just smoke that stuff you would just be send into an individual dream within yourself again or, if you are lucky, you astral project (but that's a different story entirely and I don't want to open that chapter right now). Obviously you don't go god-mode, quite the opposite you become a helpless, drooling little baby in this reality while having a very intense dream experience on the inside. Pretty cool, pretty usefull to get to know yourself and to get in touch with the universe on a spiritual level, but not magic. Why is that?
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  22. The problem is: It's simply too much of it at once, and it doesn't last long enough to take the amount you'd need to be "dreaming" in reality slowly. Some old tribes, especially in Africa, tried to solve this problem by creating a very complicated to brew potion that releases the DMT in a less agressive way, called ayahuasca, but it still sends you to your own dream-land, though from what I have heard in a less intense way. Still, not what we're looking for. (Though I'd still love to get my hands on this stuff.)
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  24. So we're running out of options if we want to become wizards, obviously. However, the solution is actually kind of simple. Your brain already is capable of producing it. We just have to trick it into producing the right amounts of DMT necessary. And, apparently, there is one method that works. Something many different monks, shamans or gurus did in the past, even including jesus (if he was actually real, that is): Staying in complete darkness and silence for a long time. In the past, many different spiritual communities did those "dark room meditations" (look that up on google) where they stayed in a cave meditating for days, weeks or even months and they came out enlightened, capable of levitation and telekinesis. I've even read forum posts about people doing this and afterwards they were capable of mild telekinesis.
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  26. The idea behind this is more simple then you'd think. Your brain releases DMT not only when you sleep, but also when you die. It causes all those near-death experiences you may have heard of. So when you want to trip on DMT all you have to do is make your brain think you are dead. Obviously I am simplifying things here to make it more understandable, but when you take away all sensoric inputs for your brain eventually it will conclude "well, if I cannot see, hear or feel anything, I'm probably dead lol" and react to it. This will cause your brain to release DMT over long periods of time which, after a certain amount, even stays in your body more or less permanently, which slowly put you into the dream-state while still allowing you to stay awake. It's important not to interrupt this, though, or else the body will just let go of the DMT just like it does when you stop dreaming. This basically tricks the system and you become capable of manipulating reality around you like you are in your dream, though still limited by the amounts of DMT in your body, your own psyche and the fact that you are not the only conciousness in this dream.
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  28. Of course this is much, much harder then it sounds, sitting or laying down completely still in complete darkness and silence doing nothing for two weeks. It's also very hard to find a place where you can pull this off while also having access to water and a toilet.
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  30. But - in theory - this SHOULD turn you into a might wizard! It's up to you if you believe this or not, I just wanted to share it and maybe spark some discussion about how one could make this work. Keep in mind that I brutally simplified this, I am aware that, for example, the chemical process is a bit more complicated then what I described.
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  32. Well, this wall of text has become big enough. Thanks for reading, make sure to report results if you actually try this!
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