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  1. Jun 20 20:00:00 [## Class Started at Mon Jun 20 20:00:00 UTC +7 2016 ##]
  2. Jun 20 20:00:00 <batul> ----------SESSION STARTS----------
  3. Jun 20 20:00:01 <kunalk> hi everyone :)
  4. Jun 20 20:00:02 <priyanka> is there anyone from gorakhpur?
  5. Jun 20 20:00:06 <kushal> Roll Call
  6. Jun 20 20:00:10 <akahat> Good evening...
  7. Jun 20 20:00:10 * avik ([email protected]) has joined
  8. Jun 20 20:00:11 <lambainsaan> Rhitik Bhatt
  9. Jun 20 20:00:12 <SRvSaha> Saurav Saha
  10. Jun 20 20:00:12 <mitra00> Shubhodeep Mitra
  11. Jun 20 20:00:12 * shobhitupadhyay ([email protected]) has joined
  12. Jun 20 20:00:13 <code_geek> Shantanu Acharya
  13. Jun 20 20:00:14 <ShaswataD> Shaswata Dutta
  14. Jun 20 20:00:15 <thisisashwani> Ashwani Pandey
  15. Jun 20 20:00:16 <c0mrad3> Tummala Dhanvi
  16. Jun 20 20:00:16 <rahuldecoded_> Rahul Bhattacharjee
  17. Jun 20 20:00:17 * suhailahmed is now known as shmed
  18. Jun 20 20:00:17 <gumil> Agung Gumilang
  19. Jun 20 20:00:17 <abstatic> Abhishek Shrivastava
  20. Jun 20 20:00:18 <dep123> DEEPANSHU KAPOOR
  21. Jun 20 20:00:18 <sandeepmaity09> Sandeep Maity
  22. Jun 20 20:00:19 <prasantrai> Prasant rai
  23. Jun 20 20:00:19 <abk> Abheek
  24. Jun 20 20:00:20 <iyogeshjoshi> Yogesh Joshi
  25. Jun 20 20:00:20 <kunalk> Kunal Kumar
  26. Jun 20 20:00:20 <JRodDynamite> Jason Estibeiro
  27. Jun 20 20:00:20 <rohan_h> Rohan Hazra
  28. Jun 20 20:00:22 <shmed> Syed Suhail Ahmed
  29. Jun 20 20:00:22 <arkro> Saikat Kumar Dey
  30. Jun 20 20:00:24 <akash23> Akash Agarwal
  31. Jun 20 20:00:24 * poonam has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
  32. Jun 20 20:00:24 <rhnvrm> Rohan Verma
  33. Jun 20 20:00:24 <priyanka> Priyanka sharma
  34. Jun 20 20:00:25 <shobhitupadhyay> shobhit upadhyay
  35. Jun 20 20:00:27 <akahat> Amol Kahat
  36. Jun 20 20:00:27 <riskarsh> Utkarsh Shukla
  37. Jun 20 20:00:28 <vbhjain> vaibhav jain
  38. Jun 20 20:00:29 <mahesh5> Mahesh Gahlot
  39. Jun 20 20:00:31 <iKshitij> Kshitij
  40. Jun 20 20:00:32 <gkadam> ganesh kadam
  41. Jun 20 20:00:34 <saru> Saran Teja
  42. Jun 20 20:00:34 <PrashantJ> Prashant Jamkhande
  43. Jun 20 20:00:35 <ketank> ketan kumar
  44. Jun 20 20:00:35 <arthar360> Athava Deshmukh ( kushal , In train, have network issues, would leave around 7:15PM)
  45. Jun 20 20:00:36 <prashaant> Prashant Sharma
  46. Jun 20 20:00:41 <yASH_> Yashwanth M
  47. Jun 20 20:00:42 <nishapoyarekar> Nisha Poyarekar
  48. Jun 20 20:00:46 * sdas (c0374fa8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.55.79.168) has joined
  49. Jun 20 20:00:47 <anushil051> Anushil Kumar
  50. Jun 20 20:00:49 <avik> Avik Mukherjee
  51. Jun 20 20:00:57 <sdas> Subhradip Das
  52. Jun 20 20:00:59 <gobinda_> Gobinda Akhuli
  53. Jun 20 20:01:02 * suniva ([email protected]) has joined
  54. Jun 20 20:01:02 <buvanesh_kumar> Buvanesh Kumar
  55. Jun 20 20:01:05 <vharsh> Harsh Vardhan
  56. Jun 20 20:01:18 * ak_d ([email protected]) has joined
  57. Jun 20 20:01:18 <Ultimatepritam> Pritam Mondal
  58. Jun 20 20:01:19 <sayan> Sayan Chowdhury
  59. Jun 20 20:01:20 <acetakwas> Tosin Animashaun
  60. Jun 20 20:01:21 <shalaka> Shalaka shastri
  61. Jun 20 20:01:25 <Kamlesh> Kamlesh Chaudhari
  62. Jun 20 20:01:27 <suniva> Suniva Priyadarshini
  63. Jun 20 20:01:28 <prabhatsharma> prabhat sharma
  64. Jun 20 20:01:34 <pabitra> Pabitra PaTI
  65. Jun 20 20:01:45 <mupadhye> Upadhye Madhuri
  66. Jun 20 20:01:51 <kushal> Around 52 nicks :)
  67. Jun 20 20:01:56 <ak_d> Akhilesh Dhaundiyal
  68. Jun 20 20:02:03 <trishnag> Trishna Guha
  69. Jun 20 20:02:04 <jargonmonk> Aniket Khisti
  70. Jun 20 20:02:10 * deeksha19 (b6414ae4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.65.74.228) has joined
  71. Jun 20 20:02:21 <sandy_> sandeep kumar choudhary
  72. Jun 20 20:02:23 * akshays ([email protected]) has joined
  73. Jun 20 20:02:26 <snarwade> Suraj Narwade
  74. Jun 20 20:02:35 <kushal> Okay
  75. Jun 20 20:02:36 <tejasgadsing> tejas gadsing
  76. Jun 20 20:02:38 <deeksha19> Deeksha Aruloli
  77. Jun 20 20:02:38 * abhishekg5_ ([email protected]) has joined
  78. Jun 20 20:02:49 <akshays> akshay shipurkar
  79. Jun 20 20:02:49 <kushal> Let us begin.
  80. Jun 20 20:02:53 * yodebu_nit has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
  81. Jun 20 20:02:57 <sayali2507> Sayali Korpade
  82. Jun 20 20:02:57 * abhishekg5 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  83. Jun 20 20:03:00 <kushal> clearqueue
  84. Jun 20 20:03:00 <batul> Queue is cleared.
  85. Jun 20 20:03:05 <budhram> Budhram Gurung
  86. Jun 20 20:03:22 <satya4ever> Satyajit Bulage
  87. Jun 20 20:03:39 * Silenced ([email protected]) has joined
  88. Jun 20 20:03:41 <kushal> Now type ! if you have any question related to the "how to ask smart questions" doc.
  89. Jun 20 20:03:49 * abhishekg5_ is now known as abhishekg5
  90. Jun 20 20:03:51 <kushal> Anyone?
  91. Jun 20 20:04:04 <kushal> Great :D
  92. Jun 20 20:04:18 * arthar360 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  93. Jun 20 20:04:23 <priyanka> !
  94. Jun 20 20:04:29 * nansari|afk has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  95. Jun 20 20:04:30 * buvanesh_kumar has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  96. Jun 20 20:04:36 * yajushi ([email protected]) has joined
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  99. Jun 20 20:04:47 * shauryak_3 ([email protected]) has joined
  100. Jun 20 20:04:50 <kushal> next
  101. Jun 20 20:04:50 <batul> priyanka please ask your question.
  102. Jun 20 20:05:01 * grepRoot (uid140986@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ebxcikbqxspfqzdt) has joined
  103. Jun 20 20:05:03 * prayashm has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
  104. Jun 20 20:05:04 * mitra00 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  105. Jun 20 20:05:07 <chirath> ChirathR
  106. Jun 20 20:05:30 <priyanka> What if we have small questions but not smart? Should we ask or not?
  107. Jun 20 20:05:42 * poonam (0ec31ced@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.195.28.237) has joined
  108. Jun 20 20:05:48 * abhishekcs10 ([email protected]) has joined
  109. Jun 20 20:05:51 <kushal> priyanka, yes, first type in google, if you can not find any answer, then ask.
  110. Jun 20 20:05:51 * harshal23 (7aa82a42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.168.42.66) has joined
  111. Jun 20 20:05:57 <kushal> I mean then ask here.
  112. Jun 20 20:06:07 <avik> !
  113. Jun 20 20:06:09 <nishapoyarekar> priyanka, giyf
  114. Jun 20 20:06:10 <priyanka> kushal, okay thanks
  115. Jun 20 20:06:11 <kushal> next
  116. Jun 20 20:06:11 <batul> avik please ask your question.
  117. Jun 20 20:06:20 <budhram> +1 kushal
  118. Jun 20 20:06:38 * vivekshelar ([email protected]) has joined
  119. Jun 20 20:06:42 <avik> how to google as wel as participate here
  120. Jun 20 20:06:50 <kushal> nishapoyarekar, I never knew this term.
  121. Jun 20 20:06:56 <priyanka> nishapoyarekar, what is giyf?
  122. Jun 20 20:07:09 <yASH_> Google is your friend
  123. Jun 20 20:07:10 <nishapoyarekar> priyanka, google is your friend
  124. Jun 20 20:07:12 <rahuldecoded_> google is your fried
  125. Jun 20 20:07:13 <suniva> google is your friend
  126. Jun 20 20:07:14 * buvanesh_kumar (buvanesh@nat/redhat/x-dopshniidemvdatd) has joined
  127. Jun 20 20:07:14 <sandy_> priyanka: google is your friend
  128. Jun 20 20:07:18 <gkadam> nishapoyarekar, :D
  129. Jun 20 20:07:20 * imack ([email protected]) has joined
  130. Jun 20 20:07:24 <rahuldecoded_> *friend
  131. Jun 20 20:07:25 <ketank> lolzz
  132. Jun 20 20:07:26 <yASH_> First letter caps guys
  133. Jun 20 20:07:27 <kushal> avik, There can be two applications running in your computer.
  134. Jun 20 20:07:34 <nishapoyarekar> kushal, ironically its there in the document ;)
  135. Jun 20 20:07:38 <CuriousLearner> Sanyam Khurana
  136. Jun 20 20:07:47 <kushal> ketank, Please stop saying that word.
  137. Jun 20 20:07:49 * ankushg07 ([email protected]) has joined
  138. Jun 20 20:07:54 <kushal> nishapoyarekar, Means I should read it again tonight.
  139. Jun 20 20:07:55 <fhackdroid> priyanka, ask a question and be stupid for 5 sec then not ask one and be stupid for the rest of your life
  140. Jun 20 20:08:04 <avik> yes but not my focus, sorry
  141. Jun 20 20:08:07 <sandeepmaity09> !
  142. Jun 20 20:08:10 <code_geek> It's Under STFW
  143. Jun 20 20:08:12 <kushal> fhackdroid, Nice.
  144. Jun 20 20:08:12 <acetakwas> avik:: You can use multiple monitors if you have another monitor.
  145. Jun 20 20:08:23 <nishapoyarekar> +1 fhackdroid
  146. Jun 20 20:08:25 <kushal> everyone stop please.
  147. Jun 20 20:08:28 <rtnpro> fhackdroid, +1
  148. Jun 20 20:08:30 <kushal> next
  149. Jun 20 20:08:30 <batul> sandeepmaity09 please ask your question.
  150. Jun 20 20:08:37 <sandeepmaity09> Send plain text mail not HtML . What does that mean ?
  151. Jun 20 20:08:42 <akshays> fhackdroid +1
  152. Jun 20 20:08:49 <sandeepmaity09> and what's the MIME ?
  153. Jun 20 20:08:51 * tuxmaniac ([email protected]) has joined
  154. Jun 20 20:08:53 <priyanka> fhackdroid, thank you.
  155. Jun 20 20:08:56 <kushal> sandeepmaity09, That is not part of the first document.
  156. Jun 20 20:09:12 <kushal> sandeepmaity09, Please ask it again after 2 minutes when I ask for the second one.
  157. Jun 20 20:09:19 <poonam> i am getting an error "/dev/mapper/live-rw does not exist while installation of fedora 23 on oracle vm ,do anyone have solution for it
  158. Jun 20 20:09:25 <sandeepmaity09> ohk
  159. Jun 20 20:09:26 * arthar360 ([email protected]) has joined
  160. Jun 20 20:09:38 <kushal> Any more question about the first link?
  161. Jun 20 20:09:48 <kushal> poonam, you can join #fedora and ask for help.
  162. Jun 20 20:10:11 <priyanka> !
  163. Jun 20 20:10:32 <kushal> next
  164. Jun 20 20:10:33 <batul> priyanka please ask your question.
  165. Jun 20 20:10:37 <budhram> kunalk, since I missed first day and I didn't get with "first link"?
  166. Jun 20 20:10:38 <priyanka> What is a blog and it's need?
  167. Jun 20 20:11:10 <kushal> priyanka, just type the exact same thing on google.com
  168. Jun 20 20:11:13 * devmodem (modem@nat/redhat/x-ysppthzlobkhthsr) has joined
  169. Jun 20 20:11:17 <rohan_h> budhram, http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
  170. Jun 20 20:11:18 <kushal> And you will see the magic of google.
  171. Jun 20 20:11:24 * abhishekg5_ ([email protected]) has joined
  172. Jun 20 20:11:27 <kushal> Read the first link.
  173. Jun 20 20:11:30 <avik> kushal, +1
  174. Jun 20 20:11:34 * abhishekg5 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
  175. Jun 20 20:11:35 <ShaswataD> kushal, +1
  176. Jun 20 20:11:41 <budhram> thanks rohan_h
  177. Jun 20 20:11:47 <kushal> Everyone stop giving these +1s
  178. Jun 20 20:11:50 <kushal> Next, https://dgplug.org/irclogs/mbuf_1stclass.log press ! if you have any question.
  179. Jun 20 20:11:54 * abhishekg5_ is now known as abhishekg5
  180. Jun 20 20:12:18 * hazel_nut (01164476@gateway/web/freenode/ip.1.22.68.118) has joined
  181. Jun 20 20:12:18 <vharsh> !
  182. Jun 20 20:12:46 <sayan> ext
  183. Jun 20 20:12:49 <sayan> next
  184. Jun 20 20:12:49 <batul> vharsh please ask your question.
  185. Jun 20 20:12:59 <vharsh> Page#12 Are the extra > bad?
  186. Jun 20 20:13:05 * sayali2507_ ([email protected]) has joined
  187. Jun 20 20:13:20 <vharsh> Does > show up as colorful lines in THunderbird?
  188. Jun 20 20:13:32 <vharsh> <EOF>
  189. Jun 20 20:13:33 <kushal> Generally does not iirc.
  190. Jun 20 20:13:37 * AndroUser ([email protected]) has joined
  191. Jun 20 20:13:39 * kushal does not use Thunderbird.
  192. Jun 20 20:13:50 * avik has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  193. Jun 20 20:13:57 <rtnpro> vharsh, you use > to quote lines
  194. Jun 20 20:14:02 * sayali2507 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
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  196. Jun 20 20:14:12 * sayali2507_ is now known as sayali2507
  197. Jun 20 20:14:14 <rtnpro> vharsh, and they can be nested as well
  198. Jun 20 20:14:30 <rtnpro> vharsh, it's usually helpful in answering to mails inline
  199. Jun 20 20:14:43 <vharsh> hmm, To me the mails look confusing
  200. Jun 20 20:14:43 <sayan> next
  201. Jun 20 20:14:43 <batul> No one is in queue.
  202. Jun 20 20:14:46 * shashank (75d67f2e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.214.127.46) has joined
  203. Jun 20 20:14:58 <kushal> Any question?
  204. Jun 20 20:14:59 <vharsh> I have to look at the time stamps to understand who started the thread, etc
  205. Jun 20 20:15:10 <rtnpro> vharsh, but don't overdo it, as it will make your mail difficult to read
  206. Jun 20 20:15:13 * sneo ([email protected]) has joined
  207. Jun 20 20:15:22 <vharsh> Please, elaborate the digest mode part,sometime (page#17)
  208. Jun 20 20:15:26 * iKshitij has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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  210. Jun 20 20:16:02 <rtnpro> vharsh, digest mode means that you get a bunch of mailing list mails (once a week, say) at once
  211. Jun 20 20:16:20 <kushal> Someone please paste a link to a digest mode reply :)
  212. Jun 20 20:16:38 <rtnpro> vharsh, it's not that useful if you really want to be interactive in a mailing list conversation
  213. Jun 20 20:16:40 <vharsh> What mistake has happened? Has some user copied the previous email?
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  218. Jun 20 20:17:13 <acetakwas> vharsh:: How do you mean?
  219. Jun 20 20:17:14 <vharsh> <EOF>
  220. Jun 20 20:17:19 * Silenced has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
  221. Jun 20 20:17:26 * arthar360_ ([email protected]) has joined
  222. Jun 20 20:17:35 <moizsajid_> kushal, http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2008-April/040535.html
  223. Jun 20 20:17:36 <vharsh> acetakwas, In the page#20 of http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf
  224. Jun 20 20:17:38 * arthar360 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  225. Jun 20 20:17:47 * pyadav ([email protected]) has joined
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  227. Jun 20 20:17:54 <kushal> moizsajid, not to me, but to vharsh :)
  228. Jun 20 20:18:00 * prayashm ([email protected]) has joined
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  230. Jun 20 20:18:00 * prayashm (~prayashm@unaffiliated/prayashm) has joined
  231. Jun 20 20:18:01 <moizsajid_> sorry
  232. Jun 20 20:18:07 * ashim ([email protected]) has joined
  233. Jun 20 20:18:12 <kushal> No need to say sorry :)
  234. Jun 20 20:18:14 <chandankumar> simple example of digest mode https://paste.fedoraproject.org/382099/66428680/
  235. Jun 20 20:18:17 <kushal> Anyone else any question?
  236. Jun 20 20:18:36 <vharsh> kushal, I'll need some more time to examine this. I am slow with mails <EOF>
  237. Jun 20 20:18:37 * tgtanya (6a338251@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.51.130.81) has joined
  238. Jun 20 20:19:03 <pabitra> !
  239. Jun 20 20:19:05 <vharsh> hmm, it seems 10 mails are delivered as one.
  240. Jun 20 20:19:09 * tabrez ([email protected]) has joined
  241. Jun 20 20:19:22 <kushal> next
  242. Jun 20 20:19:22 <batul> pabitra please ask your question.
  243. Jun 20 20:19:22 <praveenkumar> pabitra: go ahead with your question.
  244. Jun 20 20:19:28 <pabitra> went through the digest mail... still not clear
  245. Jun 20 20:19:47 * akash23 has quit (Quit: I was standing in the park wondering why frisbees got bigger as they get closer. Then it hit me.)
  246. Jun 20 20:19:47 <pabitra> does it collects only the highlighted texts from each mail ?
  247. Jun 20 20:20:07 <pabitra> or bunches 10-15 mails in one and delivers it ??
  248. Jun 20 20:20:08 <Ultimatepritam> moizsajid, he forgot to change the subject line, and so the conversation continued on same thread. Is this a example of Digest mode ?
  249. Jun 20 20:20:21 <tabrez> kushal,sorry i got late,just came from office
  250. Jun 20 20:20:33 <kushal> tabrez, no problem
  251. Jun 20 20:20:39 * abhishekcs10 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
  252. Jun 20 20:20:59 <lambainsaan> pabitra: Digest Mail means you get one mail in a week, but it is a summary of whatever other people got over the week.
  253. Jun 20 20:21:12 * abhishekcs10 ([email protected]) has joined
  254. Jun 20 20:21:13 <SRvSaha> kushal: Is the digest mail randomly selecting some of the mails from the previous mails in a week and sending them at a time.?
  255. Jun 20 20:21:30 * dhanesh95 ([email protected]) has joined
  256. Jun 20 20:21:36 * yoda__ ([email protected]) has joined
  257. Jun 20 20:21:37 <moizsajid_> Ultimatepritam, I guess so. Can anybody comment on it?
  258. Jun 20 20:21:49 <kushal> https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-admin/node19.html
  259. Jun 20 20:21:55 * pythonista (3bb2dace@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.178.218.206) has joined
  260. Jun 20 20:21:55 <pabitra> same question as of SRvSaha
  261. Jun 20 20:21:57 <akshays> even i have the same doubt as SRvSaha
  262. Jun 20 20:22:16 <acetakwas> Digest mode works based on your type of subscription. It is user-specific in a way.
  263. Jun 20 20:22:17 * shastri ([email protected]) has joined
  264. Jun 20 20:22:20 * Silenced ([email protected]) has joined
  265. Jun 20 20:22:24 <yoda__> hi.. sorry iam late
  266. Jun 20 20:22:41 <sayan> next
  267. Jun 20 20:22:42 <batul> No one is in queue.
  268. Jun 20 20:22:47 <acetakwas> If you subscribe for mails "per day," then you'd get batch of emails at the end of each day
  269. Jun 20 20:22:49 <kushal> basically it is bad.
  270. Jun 20 20:22:55 <sayan> kushal: +1
  271. Jun 20 20:22:56 <acetakwas> That is if there are any emails for that day
  272. Jun 20 20:23:04 * yodebu_nit ([email protected]) has joined
  273. Jun 20 20:23:05 * yodebu_nit ([email protected]) has left
  274. Jun 20 20:23:15 <sayan> No more questions?
  275. Jun 20 20:23:16 <kushal> acetakwas, Thanks for the explanation :)
  276. Jun 20 20:23:18 * yodebu_nit ([email protected]) has joined
  277. Jun 20 20:23:19 <SRvSaha> acetakwas: +1
  278. Jun 20 20:23:19 <indiabhi> hi got late as well, read the conversation.
  279. Jun 20 20:23:21 <indiabhi> !
  280. Jun 20 20:23:22 * ashim has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  281. Jun 20 20:23:26 <sayan> next
  282. Jun 20 20:23:26 <batul> indiabhi please ask your question.
  283. Jun 20 20:23:33 <acetakwas> However, if you subscribe for a week or some other time frame, then the batches would come after that time
  284. Jun 20 20:23:36 <indiabhi> what does mailman does?
  285. Jun 20 20:23:48 <kushal> indiabhi, please do not ask questions directly
  286. Jun 20 20:23:52 <acetakwas> Yes, kushal is right.
  287. Jun 20 20:23:56 <kushal> indiabhi, type ! and wait for your turn.
  288. Jun 20 20:24:07 <sayan> indiabhi: https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/
  289. Jun 20 20:24:10 <AndroUser> !
  290. Jun 20 20:24:24 <sayan> next
  291. Jun 20 20:24:24 <praveenkumar> next
  292. Jun 20 20:24:24 <batul> AndroUser please ask your question.
  293. Jun 20 20:24:24 <batul> No one is in queue.
  294. Jun 20 20:24:25 * punarvasu510 ([email protected]) has joined
  295. Jun 20 20:24:31 * prash (31cd5c41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.205.92.65) has joined
  296. Jun 20 20:24:35 <AndroUser> +1 means ?
  297. Jun 20 20:24:38 <Ultimatepritam> acetakwas, As when I subscribe to any wordpress blogs there I can see some Delivery Frequency options
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  299. Jun 20 20:24:48 * abhishekg5 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
  300. Jun 20 20:24:50 <sayan> AndroUser: I support you on that comment
  301. Jun 20 20:24:50 <praveenkumar> AndroUser: you agree on someone's point.
  302. Jun 20 20:25:05 * kashyap638 ([email protected]) has joined
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  304. Jun 20 20:25:09 * vivekshelar has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
  305. Jun 20 20:25:14 <AndroUser> thanks
  306. Jun 20 20:25:21 <yASH_> AndroUser: it means that you support a point. Usually people Call it kudos
  307. Jun 20 20:25:36 <yoda__> !
  308. Jun 20 20:25:37 <abstatic> !
  309. Jun 20 20:25:39 <sayan> next
  310. Jun 20 20:25:40 <batul> yoda__ please ask your question.. abstatic you are next. Get ready with your question.
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  314. Jun 20 20:25:48 <acetakwas> Ultimatepritam:: That is not a mailing list
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  316. Jun 20 20:25:55 <indiabhi> !
  317. Jun 20 20:26:00 <yoda__> what is the topic for today's class?
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  319. Jun 20 20:26:06 <acetakwas> That means you want the blog/site to send you periodic emails about their service/product
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  323. Jun 20 20:26:24 <acetakwas> You usually don't reply to such emails
  324. Jun 20 20:26:33 <sayan> yoda__: primarily Q/A on the communication guidelines
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  328. Jun 20 20:26:55 <acetakwas> yoda__:: Mostly, question and answers so far.
  329. Jun 20 20:27:04 <yoda__> !
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  331. Jun 20 20:27:16 <praveenkumar> next
  332. Jun 20 20:27:16 <batul> abstatic please ask your question.. indiabhi you are next. Get ready with your question.
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  335. Jun 20 20:27:19 <sayan> yoda__: communication is one of the important foundation in open source
  336. Jun 20 20:27:23 <sayan> next
  337. Jun 20 20:27:23 <batul> indiabhi please ask your question.. yoda__ you are next. Get ready with your question.
  338. Jun 20 20:27:31 <srinidhir> !
  339. Jun 20 20:27:34 <sayan> next
  340. Jun 20 20:27:35 <batul> yoda__ please ask your question.. srinidhir you are next. Get ready with your question.
  341. Jun 20 20:27:38 <abstatic> What is "GPG-signed email that comes with header/footer" ?
  342. Jun 20 20:27:50 <indiabhi> I guess my college uses mailman, so we had a problem in which there was a trouble relating to storage space, basically it creates another attachment everytime user sends another email how does gmail and other mail services handles it?
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  344. Jun 20 20:28:12 <praveenkumar> abstatic: https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x135.html
  345. Jun 20 20:28:14 <Ultimatepritam> acetakwas, Thank you. I think I understood. :)
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  350. Jun 20 20:28:51 <yoda__> can you elaborate why communication is so important in open source?
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  352. Jun 20 20:29:08 <acetakwas> Ultimatepritam:: :)
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  354. Jun 20 20:29:24 <sayan> indiabhi: scaling the storage server!?
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  356. Jun 20 20:30:14 <Ultimatepritam> yoda__ : because OpenSource is a Community of free minded people.
  357. Jun 20 20:30:14 * neha_s ([email protected]) has joined
  358. Jun 20 20:30:14 <snarwade> yoda__, communication is important because open source is driven by community
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  360. Jun 20 20:30:14 <sdas> yoda__: communication is important everywhere...that's how people will understand and will help you
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  362. Jun 20 20:30:17 <rahuldecoded_> yoda__ developing is not one hand task. that's why we need to communicate. In open source we reach people through out the globe
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  365. Jun 20 20:30:36 <sayan> yoda__: so primary we communicate via IRC/Mailing list so you need to follow the guidelines so that the person you are communicating to understands
  366. Jun 20 20:30:40 <praveenkumar> yoda__: 1. if you don't communicate then nobody will know about your work. 2. you might endup wasting lot of time for a problem which is already solved
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  369. Jun 20 20:30:55 <sayan> next
  370. Jun 20 20:30:56 <batul> srinidhir please ask your question.
  371. Jun 20 20:30:59 <srinidhir> Can we get the schedule of topics covered, it would really help pre class prep!
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  373. Jun 20 20:31:09 <indiabhi> sayan, probably using some data structure to keep track of different attachments sent to multiple user and storing it in just one place rather than duplicating it.
  374. Jun 20 20:31:10 <abhishekcs10> !
  375. Jun 20 20:31:22 <kushal> srinidhir, Nope, as it is still difficult for us to make that.
  376. Jun 20 20:31:22 * Anandprakash_ ([email protected]) has joined
  377. Jun 20 20:31:27 <acetakwas> yoda__:: Communication allows people working on a project to understand themselves.
  378. Jun 20 20:31:41 <indiabhi> anyways mailman came to my mind, will go through their doc and visit there irc for further discussion :0
  379. Jun 20 20:31:53 <praveenkumar> next
  380. Jun 20 20:31:54 <batul> abhishekcs10 please ask your question.
  381. Jun 20 20:31:55 <yoda__> i got it.
  382. Jun 20 20:31:57 <abhishekcs10> how do we use Wiki for documentation...??
  383. Jun 20 20:32:05 * waheguru ([email protected]) has joined
  384. Jun 20 20:32:07 <acetakwas> yoda__:: You can communicate via IRC (like this), mailing list, Slack or more channels.
  385. Jun 20 20:32:22 <Anandprakash_> Hi,can anyone please tell me how to join summer training
  386. Jun 20 20:32:24 * abhishekg5_ ([email protected]) has joined
  387. Jun 20 20:32:27 <kushal> abhishekcs10, You write things in a wiki, and others will read it.
  388. Jun 20 20:32:31 <kushal> That is how.
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  390. Jun 20 20:32:37 <prashaant> Anandprakash_, fill the google form on dgplug.org
  391. Jun 20 20:32:40 <kushal> Anandprakash_, you are in the training.
  392. Jun 20 20:32:48 <Anandprakash_> I have filled
  393. Jun 20 20:32:50 <rahuldecoded_> abhishekcs10 Wiki documentation help end user the use their product. If acts like a guide.
  394. Jun 20 20:32:51 <kushal> Anandprakash_, Attend the sessions here.
  395. Jun 20 20:33:05 <Anandprakash_> okay
  396. Jun 20 20:33:06 <rahuldecoded_> *IT
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  398. Jun 20 20:34:08 <abhishekcs10> one should prefer Wiki or blog for their projects...??
  399. Jun 20 20:34:19 <moizsajid_> !
  400. Jun 20 20:34:27 <acetakwas> abhishekcs10:: Both (it depends)
  401. Jun 20 20:34:49 <acetakwas> abhishekcs10:: Your blog mostly would be edited by you alone
  402. Jun 20 20:34:58 <punarvasu510> next
  403. Jun 20 20:35:09 <punarvasu510> sorry!
  404. Jun 20 20:35:10 <acetakwas> But a wiki allows more people to collaboratively edit a document
  405. Jun 20 20:35:26 <abhishekcs10> +1 acetakwas
  406. Jun 20 20:35:29 <yoda__> !
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  409. Jun 20 20:35:34 <abhishekcs10> thank you...:)
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  411. Jun 20 20:35:48 <shauryak_3> !
  412. Jun 20 20:35:51 <sayan> next
  413. Jun 20 20:35:52 <batul> moizsajid_ please ask your question.. yoda__ you are next. Get ready with your question.
  414. Jun 20 20:35:54 <moizsajid_> Is wiki documentation for end users or for developers?
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  416. Jun 20 20:36:02 <sayan> moizsajid_: both
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  421. Jun 20 20:36:45 <chandankumar> moizsajid, sometimes wiki is used as a white board to share their ideas about the project.
  422. Jun 20 20:37:14 <moizsajid_> got it!
  423. Jun 20 20:37:15 <sayan> moizsajid_: developers can have documentation, READMEs as wiki
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  426. Jun 20 20:37:42 <yoda__> is there any doc or blog related to today's class?
  427. Jun 20 20:37:46 <sayan> moizsajid_: maybe those developers also create pages for end users too
  428. Jun 20 20:37:47 <sayan> next
  429. Jun 20 20:37:47 <batul> yoda__ please ask your question.. shauryak_3 you are next. Get ready with your question.
  430. Jun 20 20:37:53 * richa (richa@nat/redhat/x-jrlopnnpfwzacihw) has joined
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  432. Jun 20 20:38:11 <sayan> yoda__: doc? as in?
  433. Jun 20 20:38:20 <SRvSaha> !
  434. Jun 20 20:38:20 <SRvSaha> How is Wiki different from Documentation?
  435. Jun 20 20:38:37 <sayan> next
  436. Jun 20 20:38:38 <batul> shauryak_3 please ask your question.. SRvSaha you are next. Get ready with your question.
  437. Jun 20 20:38:42 <yoda__> Documentation for any software which open source community use
  438. Jun 20 20:38:43 <shauryak_3> can someone give me an example of how they used a blog for their project? a link perhaps?
  439. Jun 20 20:39:09 * hiro_dev ([email protected]) has joined
  440. Jun 20 20:39:41 <praveenkumar> shauryak_3: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Main_Page
  441. Jun 20 20:39:43 <ShaswataD> http://www.slimframework.com/blog/
  442. Jun 20 20:39:46 <yoda__> How a communication tool works.A general idea which one can go through
  443. Jun 20 20:40:06 <abhishekcs10> !
  444. Jun 20 20:40:13 <chandankumar> shauryak_3, like rtnpro uses his blog to talk about his project http://www.rtnpro.com/ircb-0-1-1-released/
  445. Jun 20 20:40:19 <sayan> shauryak_3: you search for a project's + blog on google
  446. Jun 20 20:40:22 <sayan> next
  447. Jun 20 20:40:24 <batul> SRvSaha please ask your question.. abhishekcs10 you are next. Get ready with your question.
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  450. Jun 20 20:40:54 <sayan> next
  451. Jun 20 20:40:54 <batul> abhishekcs10 please ask your question.
  452. Jun 20 20:40:59 <abhishekcs10> How we use laTex for documentation...?
  453. Jun 20 20:41:06 <SRvSaha> How is Wiki different from Documentation?
  454. Jun 20 20:41:21 <kushal> abhishekcs10, It is a big thing.
  455. Jun 20 20:41:29 <kushal> abhishekcs10, Takes time to learn
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  458. Jun 20 20:41:35 <abhishekcs10> is it used in wiki as well..?
  459. Jun 20 20:41:37 <yASH_> !
  460. Jun 20 20:41:48 <sayan> Documentation is a generic term
  461. Jun 20 20:41:51 <lambainsaan> SRvSaha: Wiki answers questions like what is the coding standards that is used in the project while documentation give you the functions present in the framework. Not sure.
  462. Jun 20 20:42:09 <tejasgadsing> !
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  464. Jun 20 20:42:22 <AndroUser> !
  465. Jun 20 20:42:23 <acetakwas> sayan:: +1
  466. Jun 20 20:43:00 <SRvSaha> sayan: Ok. Documentation is the Abstract thing that is made up of wikis, blogs <eof>
  467. Jun 20 20:43:00 <punarvasu510> SRvSaha Wiki is used for documentation
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  469. Jun 20 20:43:04 <rahuldecoded_> !
  470. Jun 20 20:43:09 <sayan> Documentation is docs related to a software on how to use it? Installation etc
  471. Jun 20 20:43:22 <sayan> where wiki is a website maintained by a communnity
  472. Jun 20 20:43:28 <priyanka> <eof>==?
  473. Jun 20 20:43:30 <sayan> s/where/whereas
  474. Jun 20 20:43:31 <acetakwas> In my opinion, "Documentation" is a more formal/official release.
  475. Jun 20 20:43:33 <sayan> next
  476. Jun 20 20:43:33 <batul> yASH_ please ask your question.. tejasgadsing you are next. Get ready with your question.
  477. Jun 20 20:43:36 <yASH_> Do I have to use blowfish encryption for this ? Because I heard passwords sent through Nickserv and Chanserv are not encrypted if your connection is not encrypted
  478. Jun 20 20:44:06 <acetakwas> As a developer you want to check the documentation for technical specifications.
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  480. Jun 20 20:44:18 <moizsajid_> yASH_, good question
  481. Jun 20 20:44:19 <tabrez> sayan, what is s/where
  482. Jun 20 20:44:36 <yASH_> Thanks !!
  483. Jun 20 20:44:41 <sayan> yASH_: communication in IRC happends over plaintext
  484. Jun 20 20:44:56 <sayan> tabrez: use ! to ask questions
  485. Jun 20 20:44:57 <sayan> next
  486. Jun 20 20:44:59 <batul> tejasgadsing please ask your question.. AndroUser you are next. Get ready with your question.
  487. Jun 20 20:45:00 <tejasgadsing> what is latex?
  488. Jun 20 20:45:11 <punarvasu510> !
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  490. Jun 20 20:45:22 <tabrez> !
  491. Jun 20 20:45:23 <praveenkumar> tejasgadsing: https://www.latex-project.org/
  492. Jun 20 20:45:29 <sayan> tejasgadsing: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+mailman
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  494. Jun 20 20:45:40 <AndroUser> is it required to read whole wiki to understand the project ?
  495. Jun 20 20:45:41 <sayan> next
  496. Jun 20 20:45:41 <batul> AndroUser please ask your question.. rahuldecoded_ you are next. Get ready with your question.
  497. Jun 20 20:45:43 <yoda__> !
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  500. Jun 20 20:45:56 <akahat> tejasgadsing, Latex is tool for creating documentation pdf. Follow above praveenkumar's link
  501. Jun 20 20:45:57 <tejasgadsing> praveenkumar,sayan thanks
  502. Jun 20 20:46:00 * richa has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
  503. Jun 20 20:46:02 <abhishekg5_> tabrez, it is used to correct anything you previously wrote wrong
  504. Jun 20 20:46:06 <acetakwas> AndroUser:: No.
  505. Jun 20 20:46:10 <CuriousLearner> AndroUser, it depends.
  506. Jun 20 20:46:11 <praveenkumar> AndroUser: depend on how much you already know about that project.
  507. Jun 20 20:46:15 <sayan> AndroUser: use ! to ask questions
  508. Jun 20 20:46:18 <sayan> next
  509. Jun 20 20:46:18 <batul> rahuldecoded_ please ask your question.. punarvasu510 you are next. Get ready with your question.
  510. Jun 20 20:46:19 <rahuldecoded_> respond Inline in email. Should we reply inline the opening thread where Question is asked or we can reply to the responded mail too?
  511. Jun 20 20:46:29 * shauryak_3 ([email protected]) has joined
  512. Jun 20 20:46:31 <abhishekg5_> tabrez, s/"wrong_phrase"/"correct_phrase"
  513. Jun 20 20:46:31 <Anandprakash_> !
  514. Jun 20 20:46:38 <AndroUser> thanks...i used !
  515. Jun 20 20:46:56 <tabrez> thanks abhishekg5
  516. Jun 20 20:46:57 * iKshitij ([email protected]) has joined
  517. Jun 20 20:47:04 <CuriousLearner> rahuldecoded_, you can respond to any mail. You keep the response inline so that it would be easy to track in what context a reply has been made.
  518. Jun 20 20:47:05 <praveenkumar> rahuldecoded_: It means you should reply inline to whatever question/query/suggestion you want to make against.
  519. Jun 20 20:47:07 <sharique> !
  520. Jun 20 20:47:08 <sayan> rahuldecoded_: reply inline to the email you want to respond
  521. Jun 20 20:47:14 <sayan> next
  522. Jun 20 20:47:14 <batul> punarvasu510 please ask your question.. tabrez you are next. Get ready with your question.
  523. Jun 20 20:47:17 <punarvasu510> What is yaSH talking about? The encryption part. Why do we need it?
  524. Jun 20 20:47:32 * poonam (0ec31ced@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.195.28.237) has joined
  525. Jun 20 20:47:57 <sayan> punarvasu510: encryption is needed so that no one can spy on our activity
  526. Jun 20 20:48:00 <sayan> next
  527. Jun 20 20:48:00 <batul> tabrez please ask your question.. yoda__ you are next. Get ready with your question.
  528. Jun 20 20:48:04 <tabrez> got the answer
  529. Jun 20 20:48:08 <sayan> tabrez: cool
  530. Jun 20 20:48:13 <sayan> next
  531. Jun 20 20:48:13 * rahuldecoded_ Thanks :)
  532. Jun 20 20:48:13 <batul> yoda__ please ask your question.. Anandprakash_ you are next. Get ready with your question.
  533. Jun 20 20:48:14 <ashim> for higher security purpose
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  535. Jun 20 20:48:33 <yoda__> do we have any framework in python used for communicating?
  536. Jun 20 20:48:41 <sayan> punarvasu510: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+encryption+needed
  537. Jun 20 20:48:49 * avik ([email protected]) has joined
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  539. Jun 20 20:49:41 <sayan> yoda__: you need to be specific. which area of communicating?
  540. Jun 20 20:49:42 <arthar360_> sayan: 😄
  541. Jun 20 20:49:46 * aman935 ([email protected]) has joined
  542. Jun 20 20:49:46 <acetakwas> yoda__:: Not sure what you mean. A framework is some code written by someone (even you) which you can usually build an app around.
  543. Jun 20 20:49:46 * dhanesh95 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  544. Jun 20 20:50:04 <acetakwas> It's a like "skeletal" code.
  545. Jun 20 20:50:11 * dhanesh95 ([email protected]) has joined
  546. Jun 20 20:50:34 <sayan> yoda__: if you are looking for wiki engines - https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWikiEngines
  547. Jun 20 20:50:41 * chandankumar will connect from home.
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  550. Jun 20 20:51:13 <sayan> yoda__: if you are looking for Python IRC bouncers - github.com/waartaa/ircb
  551. Jun 20 20:51:15 * pythonista has quit (Quit: Page closed)
  552. Jun 20 20:51:21 <arthar360_> kushal: I have to leave
  553. Jun 20 20:51:22 <sayan> there are a few more
  554. Jun 20 20:51:26 <sayan> next
  555. Jun 20 20:51:26 <batul> Anandprakash_ please ask your question.. sharique you are next. Get ready with your question.
  556. Jun 20 20:51:26 <moizsajid_> sayan, lmgtfy.com -> cool website
  557. Jun 20 20:51:28 <Anandprakash_> any good tool or way to find work flow control of big python code
  558. Jun 20 20:51:36 <SRvSaha> !
  559. Jun 20 20:51:40 <yoda__> someone shared the link the link for slime framework which is wriiten in php.I was curious if there is any such framework built in python
  560. Jun 20 20:51:55 * abhishekg5__ ([email protected]) has joined
  561. Jun 20 20:51:56 <sayan> Anandprakash_: you can use a debugger like ipdb or pudb
  562. Jun 20 20:51:56 * abhishekg5__ is now known as abhishekg5
  563. Jun 20 20:52:28 <Anandprakash_> yes I am using it, what about pycallgraph, I want to explore it more..is it a good idea
  564. Jun 20 20:52:32 <CuriousLearner> yoda__, there are many like web2py, flask, django, tornado etc.
  565. Jun 20 20:52:35 <SRvSaha> sayan: Is framework the basic thing, on the top of which we can build something. How is it different from an API then?
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  568. Jun 20 20:52:56 <sayan> yoda__: http://flask.pocoo.org/ something that can be compared to slim
  569. Jun 20 20:53:00 <indiabhi> yoda__, for writing rest apis Django rest framework is good.
  570. Jun 20 20:53:07 <tabrez> !
  571. Jun 20 20:53:17 <kushal> We are moving out too much.
  572. Jun 20 20:53:18 <sayan> next
  573. Jun 20 20:53:18 <batul> sharique please ask your question.. SRvSaha you are next. Get ready with your question.
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  577. Jun 20 20:53:22 <sanketdg> yoda__: PHP and python are fundamentally different languages. As for web frameworks https://github.com/vinta/awesome-python#web-frameworks
  578. Jun 20 20:53:24 <sharique> can we consider README for a project on git sites as a documentation ?
  579. Jun 20 20:53:32 <kushal> No more python questions.
  580. Jun 20 20:53:42 <praveenkumar> sharique: depend on how good that written
  581. Jun 20 20:53:47 <ashim> !
  582. Jun 20 20:53:59 <sayan> sharique: yes, but depending on the detail in which it is explained
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  585. Jun 20 20:54:08 <sayan> next
  586. Jun 20 20:54:09 <batul> SRvSaha please ask your question.. tabrez you are next. Get ready with your question.
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  589. Jun 20 20:54:40 <sayan> next
  590. Jun 20 20:54:40 <batul> tabrez please ask your question.. ashim you are next. Get ready with your question.
  591. Jun 20 20:54:41 <SRvSaha> sayan: Is framework the basic thing, on the top of which we can build something. How is it different from an API then?
  592. Jun 20 20:54:46 <tabrez> sayan, wiki engines means search engines used to search any doc or related material?
  593. Jun 20 20:54:52 <kushal> SRvSaha, it is not part of the discussion.
  594. Jun 20 20:54:59 <thisisashwani> SRvSaha: api is there so as to easy your way to use some other application, while building your own!
  595. Jun 20 20:55:03 <kushal> Keep those questions for later.
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  597. Jun 20 20:55:10 <kushal> next
  598. Jun 20 20:55:10 <batul> ashim please ask your question.
  599. Jun 20 20:55:11 <avik> !
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  601. Jun 20 20:55:14 <ashim> what are supported data types
  602. Jun 20 20:55:15 <sayan> Only question regarding communications
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  604. Jun 20 20:55:26 <kushal> ashim, Not related here.
  605. Jun 20 20:55:27 <sayan> and communication guidelines
  606. Jun 20 20:55:29 <kushal> next
  607. Jun 20 20:55:30 <batul> avik please ask your question.
  608. Jun 20 20:55:49 * tmackin ([email protected]) has joined
  609. Jun 20 20:56:03 <avik> can we please come back to some conversation which beginers like me can comprehend?
  610. Jun 20 20:56:10 <kushal> avik, Yes, right
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  612. Jun 20 20:56:13 <kushal> We have to do that.
  613. Jun 20 20:56:18 <kushal> avik, Thanks for saying that.
  614. Jun 20 20:56:20 <punarvasu510> +1 aik
  615. Jun 20 20:56:22 <sayan> avik: yes, that's why we stopped
  616. Jun 20 20:56:27 <punarvasu510> *+1 avik
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  618. Jun 20 20:56:33 <abstatic> +1 avik
  619. Jun 20 20:56:33 <rahuldecoded_> :D
  620. Jun 20 20:56:38 <sayan> next
  621. Jun 20 20:56:39 <batul> No one is in queue.
  622. Jun 20 20:56:47 <kushal> https://dgplug.org/irclogs/mbuf_2ndclass.log Any questions on this?
  623. Jun 20 20:56:56 <jargonmonk> https://dgplug.org/summertraining16/
  624. Jun 20 20:56:57 * jiblet (jiblet@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-kugzrkhcqjgleqee) has joined
  625. Jun 20 20:57:04 <jargonmonk> sorry
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  628. Jun 20 20:57:34 <acetakwas> For those who want to ask questions that are as friendly to beginners, [I believe] you can do so after the class session ends.
  629. Jun 20 20:57:49 <kushal> acetakwas, That should be in the session
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  631. Jun 20 20:58:06 <kushal> People are asking random questions which has nothing to do with the session.
  632. Jun 20 20:58:13 <acetakwas> kushal:: s/are/"are not"
  633. Jun 20 20:58:13 <kushal> Any question on https://dgplug.org/irclogs/mbuf_2ndclass.log ?
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  636. Jun 20 20:58:23 <kushal> acetakwas, hehe :)
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  639. Jun 20 20:58:46 <ShaswataD> !
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  641. Jun 20 20:58:55 <sayan> next
  642. Jun 20 20:58:56 <batul> ShaswataD please ask your question.
  643. Jun 20 20:59:02 <ShaswataD> how to initiate communication with a mentor for the first time?
  644. Jun 20 20:59:19 * chshbh was afk
  645. Jun 20 20:59:27 * avik has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  646. Jun 20 20:59:28 <kushal> ShaswataD, Write a nice email.
  647. Jun 20 20:59:32 * Rnarwade ([email protected]) has joined
  648. Jun 20 20:59:38 <lambainsaan> !
  649. Jun 20 20:59:41 <indiabhi> !
  650. Jun 20 20:59:44 * avik ([email protected]) has joined
  651. Jun 20 20:59:50 <kushal> lambainsaan, you should not have any space.
  652. Jun 20 20:59:53 <kushal> next
  653. Jun 20 20:59:53 <batul> indiabhi please ask your question.
  654. Jun 20 20:59:58 <SRvSaha> !
  655. Jun 20 21:00:05 * yoda__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  656. Jun 20 21:00:06 <indiabhi> should i visit their irc channel or write to their mailing list?
  657. Jun 20 21:00:08 <lambainsaan> !
  658. Jun 20 21:00:19 <punarvasu510> !
  659. Jun 20 21:00:22 <SRvSaha> What is Linux generally referred to as GNU/Linux?
  660. Jun 20 21:00:54 * tbhosale has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
  661. Jun 20 21:00:55 * sidm (6f7dfc76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.111.125.252.118) has joined
  662. Jun 20 21:00:59 <kushal> indiabhi, You should do both.
  663. Jun 20 21:01:00 <punarvasu510> SRVSaha: wait till the bot asks you to ask your question
  664. Jun 20 21:01:06 <kushal> SRvSaha, Please wait for your turn.
  665. Jun 20 21:01:10 * abhishekg5 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  666. Jun 20 21:01:15 <sayan> SRvSaha: wait for your turn anyways we won't answer out of turn questions
  667. Jun 20 21:01:28 <sayan> next
  668. Jun 20 21:01:29 <batul> SRvSaha please ask your question.. lambainsaan you are next. Get ready with your question.
  669. Jun 20 21:01:36 * abhishekg5 ([email protected]) has joined
  670. Jun 20 21:01:40 <punarvasu510> lol
  671. Jun 20 21:01:50 <indiabhi> you missed my question?
  672. Jun 20 21:01:50 <SRvSaha> kushal: punarvasu510 : Sorry for that. Actually mistakenly I have stroked the Enter key-__-
  673. Jun 20 21:01:52 <kushal> indiabhi, Both.
  674. Jun 20 21:01:53 * sandy__ (0e6290aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.98.144.170) has joined
  675. Jun 20 21:02:20 <ashim> mera to janek man nhi krra jbse ye dialog box open hua
  676. Jun 20 21:02:21 <acetakwas> SRvSaha:: GNU is the operating system. Linux is a kernel. (I'll leave you to learn what a Kernel is.)
  677. Jun 20 21:02:24 <SRvSaha> What is Linux generally referred to as GNU/Linux?
  678. Jun 20 21:02:25 <manjaroi3_> Linux is simply a kernel. To make it a complete operating system gnu utilities and many other software are required. therefore GNU/Linux
  679. Jun 20 21:02:33 <chshbh> SRvsaha: because, linux is just a kernel, not the whole operating system, which includes contribution from many, so GNU/Linux signifies the whole os.
  680. Jun 20 21:02:46 <sayan> .link question
  681. Jun 20 21:02:46 <batul> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
  682. Jun 20 21:02:48 <sayan> SRvSaha: ^^
  683. Jun 20 21:02:49 <kushal> :)
  684. Jun 20 21:02:51 <shobhitupadhyay> !
  685. Jun 20 21:02:56 <kushal> SRvSaha, ^^^^^
  686. Jun 20 21:03:01 <abk> !
  687. Jun 20 21:03:13 <abhishekcs10> !
  688. Jun 20 21:03:13 <sayan> next
  689. Jun 20 21:03:14 <batul> lambainsaan please ask your question.. punarvasu510 you are next. Get ready with your question.
  690. Jun 20 21:03:18 <lambainsaan> How to find a mentor? I have been looking for someone who can guide me since a very long time. <EOM>
  691. Jun 20 21:03:29 * D1mz ([email protected]) has joined
  692. Jun 20 21:03:43 <vharsh> SRvSaha, Read what happened to a 14 year old guy when he said Linux instead of GNU/Linux to RMS :p
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  694. Jun 20 21:04:12 <iKshitij> !
  695. Jun 20 21:04:43 <AndroUser> !
  696. Jun 20 21:05:10 <Anandprakash_> !
  697. Jun 20 21:05:10 <kushal> lambainsaan, Now you are in the right place.
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  699. Jun 20 21:05:15 <kushal> lambainsaan, Continue with the training, and you will learn a lot.
  700. Jun 20 21:05:19 <kushal> next
  701. Jun 20 21:05:19 <batul> punarvasu510 please ask your question.. shobhitupadhyay you are next. Get ready with your question.
  702. Jun 20 21:05:19 <rahuldecoded_> kushal +1
  703. Jun 20 21:05:20 <punarvasu510> Is the agenda for today's session any different from that of yesterday's ?Just asking :)
  704. Jun 20 21:05:24 * SKPyne has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
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  706. Jun 20 21:05:55 <kushal> punarvasu510, What do you think are we doing?
  707. Jun 20 21:06:00 <kushal> Discussing the home task.
  708. Jun 20 21:06:07 * acetakwas ([email protected]) has joined
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  710. Jun 20 21:06:08 <kushal> That is the difference.
  711. Jun 20 21:06:10 <kushal> next
  712. Jun 20 21:06:11 <batul> shobhitupadhyay please ask your question.. abk you are next. Get ready with your question.
  713. Jun 20 21:06:13 <shobhitupadhyay> which communication create more impact and beneficial,voice or chat communication?
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  716. Jun 20 21:06:56 <acetakwas> shobhitupadhyay:: I think you should stick with what works best for you.
  717. Jun 20 21:07:00 <prashaant> shobhitupadhyay, both are use in different scenarios
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  719. Jun 20 21:07:09 <anushil051> email
  720. Jun 20 21:07:20 * priyanka ([email protected]) has joined
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  722. Jun 20 21:07:47 <prashaant> shobhitupadhyay, communication = right toot + right time + right people + right job read shaktimaan's slides
  723. Jun 20 21:08:03 * abhishekg5 ([email protected]) has joined
  724. Jun 20 21:08:07 <D1mz> +1 prashant
  725. Jun 20 21:08:16 <vharsh> +1 prashaant
  726. Jun 20 21:08:17 <indiabhi> +1 prashaant
  727. Jun 20 21:08:24 <tabrez> +1
  728. Jun 20 21:08:31 <a2batic> +1
  729. Jun 20 21:08:31 <acetakwas> And you usually get logs of chats, not really the case with voice of course.
  730. Jun 20 21:08:52 <kushal> next
  731. Jun 20 21:08:53 <batul> abk please ask your question.. abhishekcs10 you are next. Get ready with your question.
  732. Jun 20 21:08:55 <abk> there are some non-free distribution of linux, how are they different? i have googled it only to find about some extra driver support.
  733. Jun 20 21:09:07 <shobhitupadhyay> +1 prashant
  734. Jun 20 21:09:17 <shobhitupadhyay> +1 acetakwas
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  737. Jun 20 21:10:03 <priyanka> prashaant, +1
  738. Jun 20 21:10:10 * kuldeep (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) has joined
  739. Jun 20 21:10:25 <indiabhi> !
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  741. Jun 20 21:10:38 <acetakwas> abk:: Mostly that they are owned by companies that offer technical support
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  743. Jun 20 21:10:50 <kushal> Yes, many hardware does not have open source driver.
  744. Jun 20 21:11:15 <abk> ok :) so its just about the support. thanks
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  747. Jun 20 21:11:49 <sandeepkr> abk, because they contain software that is not free/libre.Interestingly it turns out to be drivers on most occasions.
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  750. Jun 20 21:12:42 <D1mz> even some multimedia codecs like mp3 are not free software
  751. Jun 20 21:12:55 * tbhosale ([email protected]) has joined
  752. Jun 20 21:13:08 <sandeepkr> D1mz, good point.
  753. Jun 20 21:13:48 <vharsh> Rival organizations(AMD vs Nvidea) scared that their competitors will steal their research.
  754. Jun 20 21:13:49 <kushal> Yes
  755. Jun 20 21:13:55 <kuldeep> D1mz, "even some multimedia codecs like mp3 are not free software" patent of the codec and implementation are two different things.
  756. Jun 20 21:13:55 <kushal> we can continue.
  757. Jun 20 21:13:58 <vharsh> Btw a good article with a horrifying end
  758. Jun 20 21:13:59 <vharsh> https://fedoramagazine.org/open-source-black-boxes-radioactivity/
  759. Jun 20 21:14:00 <kushal> next
  760. Jun 20 21:14:00 <batul> abhishekcs10 please ask your question.. iKshitij you are next. Get ready with your question.
  761. Jun 20 21:14:05 <abhishekcs10> So when we use term GNU/Linux which distribution (Ubuntu, Fedora etc.) are we referring to...?
  762. Jun 20 21:14:07 <sayan> next
  763. Jun 20 21:14:07 <batul> iKshitij please ask your question.. AndroUser you are next. Get ready with your question.
  764. Jun 20 21:14:23 <iKshitij> why dgplug group prefer Fedora over other linux dist ?
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  768. Jun 20 21:15:14 <priyanka> !
  769. Jun 20 21:15:24 <kushal> iKshitij, because we think it is the best distribution for developers and users.
  770. Jun 20 21:15:25 <kushal> next
  771. Jun 20 21:15:25 <batul> AndroUser please ask your question.. Anandprakash_ you are next. Get ready with your question.
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  773. Jun 20 21:15:33 <rahuldecoded_> iKshitij It is good for developers
  774. Jun 20 21:15:36 * lambainsaan ([email protected]) has joined
  775. Jun 20 21:15:41 <pksadiq> !
  776. Jun 20 21:15:48 <kushal> next
  777. Jun 20 21:15:48 <batul> Anandprakash_ please ask your question.. indiabhi you are next. Get ready with your question.
  778. Jun 20 21:15:48 <sayan> next
  779. Jun 20 21:15:48 <batul> indiabhi please ask your question.. priyanka you are next. Get ready with your question.
  780. Jun 20 21:15:49 <Anandprakash_> can any one please tell me a complete workflow of any linux command..means when we enter a command what is going inside...and how we can see the progress using stacktrace/any other?
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  784. Jun 20 21:16:04 <kushal> Anandprakash_, not part of this class.
  785. Jun 20 21:16:06 <kushal> next
  786. Jun 20 21:16:06 <batul> priyanka please ask your question.. pksadiq you are next. Get ready with your question.
  787. Jun 20 21:16:06 <indiabhi> how do u search inside irc logs? does google crawls irc logs as well? More importantly how do i find relevant information from irc logs?
  788. Jun 20 21:16:07 * abhishekg5 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
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  790. Jun 20 21:16:11 <priyanka> Kushal, what are some risks associated with Open Source Software?
  791. Jun 20 21:16:22 * yoda__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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  793. Jun 20 21:16:51 <kushal> indiabhi, Open the log in browser, press Ctrl+f to open the find box
  794. Jun 20 21:16:51 <acetakwas> indiabhi:: Use your web browser's "Find" feature (Ctrl+F)
  795. Jun 20 21:16:55 <iKshitij> Rahul Can you justify ! How ?
  796. Jun 20 21:17:08 <kushal> iKshitij, you will learn with time.
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  798. Jun 20 21:17:11 <kushal> next
  799. Jun 20 21:17:12 <batul> pksadiq please ask your question.
  800. Jun 20 21:17:20 <kushal> priyanka, I don't know any.
  801. Jun 20 21:17:27 <pksadiq> On what basis Fedora is considered to be the best for Developers? I have seen Debian GNU/Linux to have more software and community support
  802. Jun 20 21:17:30 <rahuldecoded_> !
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  804. Jun 20 21:17:41 <kushal> pksadiq, You will learn it with time.
  805. Jun 20 21:17:42 <kushal> next
  806. Jun 20 21:17:42 <batul> rahuldecoded_ please ask your question.
  807. Jun 20 21:17:54 <iKshitij> Kushal and Rahul Thank You.
  808. Jun 20 21:17:57 <rahuldecoded_> is irc chats are secured?
  809. Jun 20 21:18:01 <acetakwas> priyanka:: You could become popular :)
  810. Jun 20 21:18:09 <sayan> iKshitij: because Fedora works closely with Upstream, has updated packages, you get the latest things on Fedora
  811. Jun 20 21:18:09 <kuldeep> priyanka, "risks associated..." very broad
  812. Jun 20 21:18:13 <vharsh> priyanka, Check https://fedoramagazine.org/open-source-black-boxes-radioactivity/
  813. Jun 20 21:18:21 <chshbh> priyanka: its linear hierarchy can have some disadvantages too.
  814. Jun 20 21:18:36 <abhishekg5> rahuldecoded_, In what sense ?
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  816. Jun 20 21:18:58 <abhishekcs10> next
  817. Jun 20 21:18:58 <priyanka> vharsh, okay.
  818. Jun 20 21:19:02 <acetakwas> rahuldecoded_:: Simply, "No." It's in plain text.
  819. Jun 20 21:19:13 <sayan> next
  820. Jun 20 21:19:15 <batul> No one is in queue.
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  822. Jun 20 21:19:23 <priyanka> chshbh, okay.
  823. Jun 20 21:19:41 <kushal> Okay
  824. Jun 20 21:19:57 <priyanka> acetakwas, means?
  825. Jun 20 21:20:08 <acetakwas> priyanka:: That's a joke.
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  827. Jun 20 21:20:16 <D1mz> priyanka, AFAIK there are only 2 major distros that offer bleeding edge software, Arch and Fedora. Arch is not for beginners so Fedora is a better choice.
  828. Jun 20 21:20:17 <kushal> next
  829. Jun 20 21:20:18 <batul> No one is in queue.
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  831. Jun 20 21:20:36 <chshbh> +1
  832. Jun 20 21:20:48 <priyanka> acetakwas, ohh.
  833. Jun 20 21:20:59 <kushal> Next
  834. Jun 20 21:21:07 <kushal> For tomorrow read this https://dgplug.org/irclogs/mbuf_2ndclass.log
  835. Jun 20 21:21:11 <kushal> Ooops
  836. Jun 20 21:21:15 <kushal> wrong link
  837. Jun 20 21:21:19 <sandeepkr> D1mz, how can you say that arch is not for beginners? im not saying you are wrong im just looking for your reason
  838. Jun 20 21:21:25 <kuldeep> onething that distinquish Arch and Fedora, Arch is rolling release. `pacman -Syu` and you have all the latest packages
  839. Jun 20 21:21:43 <kushal> For tomorrow please go through https://dgplug.org/irclogs/mbuf_2ndclass.log
  840. Jun 20 21:21:46 * Silenced has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
  841. Jun 20 21:21:47 <kushal> Eeks
  842. Jun 20 21:21:55 <punarvasu510> !
  843. Jun 20 21:22:02 <kushal> https://dgplug.org/irclogs/2013/2013-07-17-ncoghlan.log
  844. Jun 20 21:22:09 <kushal> ^^ read this for tomorrow.
  845. Jun 20 21:22:10 <kuldeep> with Fedora, one has replace the current with "new release"
  846. Jun 20 21:22:32 <priyanka> D1mz, will you explain?
  847. Jun 20 21:23:08 <sanketdg> kuldeep: Arch definitely takes a lot of setup, whereas Fedora's installation and setup is a breeze compared to that.
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  849. Jun 20 21:23:36 <sanketdg> sandeepkr: ^
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  851. Jun 20 21:23:55 <D1mz> sandeepkr, The difficulty in installation and troubleshooting. This is because every installation is unique and the same solution may not work for everyone
  852. Jun 20 21:24:40 * surajd has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
  853. Jun 20 21:24:45 <acetakwas> When you look at so many tools online, and measure how much support they have for one OS (e.g Fedora vs Arch), you would usually find more of Fedora
  854. Jun 20 21:24:53 <D1mz> Arch has more chances of breaking when upgraded
  855. Jun 20 21:25:05 <acetakwas> Or Ubuntu (which I use)
  856. Jun 20 21:25:30 <abstatic> Ubuntu packages very old software
  857. Jun 20 21:25:47 <acetakwas> So, with Arch, you have less people holding your hands to guid you.
  858. Jun 20 21:25:52 * sidm (6f7dfc76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.111.125.252.118) has joined
  859. Jun 20 21:25:53 <acetakwas> s/guid/guide
  860. Jun 20 21:26:01 <thisisashwani> kushal: any other readings for tomorrow?
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  862. Jun 20 21:26:12 <iKshitij> kushal log of Jul 17 2013 ?
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  864. Jun 20 21:26:27 <rahuldecoded_> kushal I think the above link is above. So should we install python?
  865. Jun 20 21:26:29 <D1mz> No Arch has the top notch documentation of all distros
  866. Jun 20 21:26:31 <prashaant> everyone , don't get sentimental about which distro to use instead focus on the contribution part initially
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  868. Jun 20 21:26:43 <D1mz> +1
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  870. Jun 20 21:26:44 <kuldeep> Arch wiki is one place to get all info its awwsome. and afair there is a fork of Arch in which they are working for "beginners"
  871. Jun 20 21:26:48 <rahuldecoded_> kushal I think the above link is about python. So should we install python?
  872. Jun 20 21:26:55 <sayan> Read the link kushal gave
  873. Jun 20 21:26:57 <chshbh> +1
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  876. Jun 20 21:27:01 <abstatic> +1 kuldeep D1mz
  877. Jun 20 21:27:04 <vharsh> rahuldecoded_, python is there in most distros
  878. Jun 20 21:27:06 <rahuldecoded_> sayan ok
  879. Jun 20 21:27:09 <priyanka> +1 prashaant
  880. Jun 20 21:27:18 <sayan> And tomorrow you would require a Linux distro
  881. Jun 20 21:27:25 <android> !
  882. Jun 20 21:27:30 <sayan> so get it ready those who have not yet
  883. Jun 20 21:27:31 <sayan> next
  884. Jun 20 21:27:32 <batul> punarvasu510 please ask your question.. android you are next. Get ready with your question.
  885. Jun 20 21:27:34 <punarvasu510> Once we type "!", is there any way to get out of the queue?
  886. Jun 20 21:27:35 <sayan> next
  887. Jun 20 21:27:35 <batul> android please ask your question.
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  889. Jun 20 21:27:58 <sandy_> !
  890. Jun 20 21:27:59 <sayan> punarvasu510: no, maybe you can send a PR, first contribution :)
  891. Jun 20 21:28:01 <sayan> next
  892. Jun 20 21:28:02 <batul> sandy_ please ask your question.
  893. Jun 20 21:28:03 <android> how to contribute in open source as a beginner
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  895. Jun 20 21:28:08 <vharsh> !
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  897. Jun 20 21:28:18 <sandy_> what is best to dual boot or installon virtual
  898. Jun 20 21:28:29 <sayan> android: you will learn that here itself
  899. Jun 20 21:28:31 <sayan> next
  900. Jun 20 21:28:31 <batul> vharsh please ask your question.
  901. Jun 20 21:28:35 <anushil051> sandy_ dual boot
  902. Jun 20 21:28:36 <vharsh> How about recommending a documentary/movie related to linux/etc etc?
  903. Jun 20 21:28:41 <abstatic> sandy_ setting up dual boot is tricky. you might lose your data
  904. Jun 20 21:28:45 <rohan_h> android, https://sayanchowdhury.dgplug.org/how-to-get-started-with-open-source/
  905. Jun 20 21:28:46 <vharsh> I know one of them, Revolution OS
  906. Jun 20 21:28:53 <grepRoot> +1
  907. Jun 20 21:29:15 <sayan> sandy_: it good to get Linux install by somebody who knows if you are not that confident
  908. Jun 20 21:29:23 <grepRoot> You will get to know the FSF and open source debate.
  909. Jun 20 21:29:27 <sayan> else go for virtual installation
  910. Jun 20 21:29:28 <sandy_> abstatic so what method should i prefer?
  911. Jun 20 21:29:28 <sandeepkr> vharsh, i guess thats the only one.I might be wrong.
  912. Jun 20 21:29:29 <ShaswataD> vharsh, Aaron Swartz : Internets Own Boy
  913. Jun 20 21:29:55 <sayan> vharsh: google, plenty out there
  914. Jun 20 21:30:02 <grepRoot> +1, though you would mostly learn about aaron's life..
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  916. Jun 20 21:30:05 <vharsh> sandeepkr, There's one more "Code story linux", "Code rush" -> Mozilla
  917. Jun 20 21:30:07 <kuldeep> vharsh, RMS talks and gnu.org are useful to understand in broader view
  918. Jun 20 21:30:12 <gkadam> vharsh, Person of Interest or Mr. Robot
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  920. Jun 20 21:30:21 <mayurparik> what about installing dual boot, UEFI and Legacy
  921. Jun 20 21:30:22 <vharsh> Please recommend us some.
  922. Jun 20 21:30:22 <abstatic> sandy_ try installing on a vm first. if you feel comfortable then try dual boot. level of difficulty depends on the other os win7 < win8 < win10
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  924. Jun 20 21:30:49 <sandeepkr> +1 kuldeep
  925. Jun 20 21:30:51 <sayan> next
  926. Jun 20 21:30:51 <batul> No one is in queue.
  927. Jun 20 21:30:59 <vharsh> mayurparik, Plenty of videos on youtube.
  928. Jun 20 21:31:02 <sandy_> sayan: ther is no nobody in my circle who know, first i try to install ubuntu but can't
  929. Jun 20 21:31:32 <grepRoot> gkadam, +1 for POI but that is fiction but good for motivation.
  930. Jun 20 21:31:58 <indiabhi> haha Machine :p
  931. Jun 20 21:32:00 <chshbh> sandy_ : try Ubuntu on VMware, plenty of tutorials on how-to
  932. Jun 20 21:32:15 <gkadam> mayurparik, you need to check if uefi is enabled, or legacy support is enabled. by default uefi will support GPT partition , so you need to be aware of GPT, MBR and other things.
  933. Jun 20 21:32:21 <shauryak_3> sandy_, search on youtube you will find plenty of videos to dual boot
  934. Jun 20 21:32:23 <pabitrapati> I am not getting what we are discussing on vharsh's question
  935. Jun 20 21:32:32 <abk> youtube shows exactly how to install a linux distro plus google it'
  936. Jun 20 21:32:34 <sandy_> sayan: ended changing my all drive from primary to basic drive ,try create an empty partition but didn't work out
  937. Jun 20 21:32:43 <anushil051> sandy_:it's simple just make a bootable and make root,swap,home directory and install
  938. Jun 20 21:32:52 <pabitrapati> recommending a documentary/movie related to linux/etc etc
  939. Jun 20 21:33:08 <gkadam> grepRoot, yes. harold and root are my motivation! :D
  940. Jun 20 21:33:37 <grepRoot> gkadam: Oh, yeah!
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  942. Jun 20 21:34:07 <grepRoot> is the session over?
  943. Jun 20 21:34:09 <code_geek> sandy_, to install ubuntu alongside windows, refer to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FuLXIKLVjg
  944. Jun 20 21:34:11 <iKshitij> !
  945. Jun 20 21:34:18 <sandy_> anushil051: i try but when i choose 3rd option it show one c: drive and other all drive combine
  946. Jun 20 21:34:20 <prashaant> grepRoot, no
  947. Jun 20 21:34:21 <D1mz> I think persistent live usb is also a good alternative to dual boot
  948. Jun 20 21:34:27 <iKshitij> Sayan When I was trying to install Fedora dual boot with windows. (Windows PreInstalled). I was getting error " ". I asked the same on fedora forum. They asked me to change Drive to GPT from GMR. what is GPT or GMR
  949. Jun 20 21:34:47 <abstatic> D1mz, +1 but the OS of choice should be lightweight like puppy or lubuntu
  950. Jun 20 21:34:50 <sandy_> code_geek: thank's i will see
  951. Jun 20 21:34:51 * sayan got disconnected
  952. Jun 20 21:34:59 <mayurparik> +1 iKshitij
  953. Jun 20 21:35:00 <code_geek> welcome
  954. Jun 20 21:35:01 <grepRoot> Oh, didn't see kushal's message for a while. So thought.
  955. Jun 20 21:35:04 <ShaswataD> !
  956. Jun 20 21:35:08 <sayan> next
  957. Jun 20 21:35:09 <batul> iKshitij please ask your question.. ShaswataD you are next. Get ready with your question.
  958. Jun 20 21:35:11 * avik has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  959. Jun 20 21:35:12 <sayan> next
  960. Jun 20 21:35:13 <batul> ShaswataD please ask your question.
  961. Jun 20 21:35:17 <anushil051> sandy_:first make partition in windows then try you will see every drive
  962. Jun 20 21:35:18 * sdas has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
  963. Jun 20 21:35:19 <sayan> grepRoot: he is disconnected
  964. Jun 20 21:35:19 <iKshitij> Sayan When I was trying to install Fedora dual boot with windows. (Windows PreInstalled). I was getting error " ". I asked the same on fedora forum. They asked me to change Drive to GPT from GMR. what is GPT or GMR
  965. Jun 20 21:35:21 * joyceg has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
  966. Jun 20 21:35:22 <gkadam> iKshitij, it is MBR
  967. Jun 20 21:35:25 * lambainsaan ([email protected]) has left
  968. Jun 20 21:35:26 <ShaswataD> is the session over?
  969. Jun 20 21:35:30 * dhanesh95 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  970. Jun 20 21:35:31 <sayan> iKshitij: let's take this question after the sesssion
  971. Jun 20 21:35:31 * avik ([email protected]) has joined
  972. Jun 20 21:35:32 <iKshitij> sorry MBR
  973. Jun 20 21:35:32 * surajd ([email protected]) has joined
  974. Jun 20 21:35:36 <prashaant> ShaswataD, no
  975. Jun 20 21:35:37 <sayan> any more question?
  976. Jun 20 21:35:40 <iKshitij> okay
  977. Jun 20 21:35:42 <sayan> next
  978. Jun 20 21:35:42 <batul> No one is in queue.
  979. Jun 20 21:35:47 <sayan> Roll Call
  980. Jun 20 21:35:52 <vharsh> Harsh Vardhan
  981. Jun 20 21:35:53 <rohan_h> Rohan Hazra
  982. Jun 20 21:35:54 <rahuldecoded_> Rahul Bhattacharjee
  983. Jun 20 21:35:55 <gkadam> Ganesh Kadam
  984. Jun 20 21:35:55 <imack> Mahendra Yadav
  985. Jun 20 21:35:56 <ShaswataD> Shaswata Dutta
  986. Jun 20 21:35:56 <kunalk> Kunal Kumar
  987. Jun 20 21:35:56 <code_geek> Shantanu Acharya
  988. Jun 20 21:35:56 <gumil> Agung Gumilang
  989. Jun 20 21:35:58 <shauryak_3> Shaurya Kalia
  990. Jun 20 21:35:58 <JRodDynamite> Jason Estibeiro
  991. Jun 20 21:35:59 <chshbh> Avinash Madhukar
  992. Jun 20 21:36:00 <PrashantJ> Prashant Jamkhande
  993. Jun 20 21:36:01 <iKshitij> Kshitij
  994. Jun 20 21:36:01 <gobinda_> Gobinda Akhuli
  995. Jun 20 21:36:01 <snarwade> Suraj Narwade
  996. Jun 20 21:36:01 <Rnarwade> Rushiprasad Narwade
  997. Jun 20 21:36:01 <ketank> ketan ku ar
  998. Jun 20 21:36:02 <akshays> Akshay Shipurkar
  999. Jun 20 21:36:03 <grepRoot> Gourav Chawla
  1000. Jun 20 21:36:04 <punarvasu510> Alekhya Vellanki
  1001. Jun 20 21:36:04 <abstatic> Abhishek Shrivastava
  1002. Jun 20 21:36:05 <lambainsaan_> Rhitik Bhatt
  1003. Jun 20 21:36:06 <dep123> Deepanshu Kapoor
  1004. Jun 20 21:36:06 <vbhjain> vaibhav jain
  1005. Jun 20 21:36:07 <satya4ever> Satyajit Bulage
  1006. Jun 20 21:36:08 <suniva> Suniva Priyadarshini
  1007. Jun 20 21:36:08 <ak_d> Akhilesh Dhaundiyal
  1008. Jun 20 21:36:08 <real56> Varsha R
  1009. Jun 20 21:36:09 <riskarsh> Utkarsh Shukla
  1010. Jun 20 21:36:09 <mupadhye> Upadhye Madhuri
  1011. Jun 20 21:36:09 <sandeepmaity09> Sandeep Maity
  1012. Jun 20 21:36:10 <mayurparik> mayurparik
  1013. Jun 20 21:36:10 <priyanka> Priyanka Sharma
  1014. Jun 20 21:36:11 <abk> Abheek
  1015. Jun 20 21:36:11 <prashaant> Prashant Sharma
  1016. Jun 20 21:36:12 <avik> Avik Mukherjee
  1017. Jun 20 21:36:12 <arkro> Saikat Kumar Dey
  1018. Jun 20 21:36:15 <yASH_> Yashwanth M
  1019. Jun 20 21:36:15 <tbhosale> Tejshree Bhosale
  1020. Jun 20 21:36:16 <D1mz> Aditya Bayana
  1021. Jun 20 21:36:17 <tejasgadsing> Tejas gadsing
  1022. Jun 20 21:36:18 * dhanesh95 ([email protected]) has joined
  1023. Jun 20 21:36:19 <acetakwas> Tosin Animashaun
  1024. Jun 20 21:36:20 <madhuri> Madhuri Muley
  1025. Jun 20 21:36:20 <tabrez> Tabrez khan
  1026. Jun 20 21:36:21 <anushil051> Anushil Kumar
  1027. Jun 20 21:36:22 <shobhitupadhyay> shobhit upadhyay
  1028. Jun 20 21:36:24 <thisisashwani> Ashwani Pandey
  1029. Jun 20 21:36:42 <Kamlesh> Kamlesh Chaudhari
  1030. Jun 20 21:36:44 <jargonmonk> Aniket Khisti
  1031. Jun 20 21:36:52 <poonam> poonam jadhav
  1032. Jun 20 21:36:56 <neha_s> Neha
  1033. Jun 20 21:36:57 <sandeepkr> Sandeep Kumar
  1034. Jun 20 21:37:34 <punarvasu510> !
  1035. Jun 20 21:37:37 * abhishekg5 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
  1036. Jun 20 21:37:46 <batul> ----------SESSION ENDS----------
  1037. Jun 20 21:37:46 [## Class Started at Mon Jun 20 21:37:46 UTC +7 2016 ##]
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