Investigation of Skydemon and Crazedplayer

Investigation of Skydemon and crazed player by shamu.

https://epicmafia.com/game/5335793/review -maf vegges

Crazed is oracle and sky blue, crazed orcs outside of sky. D1, Skydemon interacts with crazed once, and crazed never says anything about sky. D2, crazed says 'orc claim first' and sky proceeds to claim orc.  Crazed had no reason to trust sky with the rs considering the lack of reads on eachother. Crazed dies revealing mafia, and other mafia vegges.

https://epicmafia.com/game/5341374 - town wins

Sky is doc and crazed is blue. Sky is doc and crazed is blue. Orc dies and reveals blue, janitor is lynched in cop cc's. N2 mafia kills blue and sky is on cop. D1 neither player outs reads on eachother and pushed the same person in cops. D2 crazed says, 'doc claim' and then shortly thereafter 'I am doc'. Sky lets crazed rs even though there had been no prior interaction between them. Crazed leads a lynch, and then sky follows it without complaint. Mafia kills crazed assuming he's doc and they lose.

This game alone should be enough to convict someone of cheating.

https://epicmafia.com/game/5347618/review - Town wins
Crazed is lawyer and sky is cop. Sky just so happens to check crazed 'the law' while crazed gives the idea of no janning. Crazed then innos sky even after sky typed 'I'm the real cop and I'm not getting fucking lynched d1, and since you pussies won't believe me if I don't c/p here it is Cra'. After that he changes his report (making him look more suspicious). Sky goes on to win the game with reports.
Almost definite game throwing.

Additional games -
https://epicmafia.com/game/5335690/review Their first game together this round. Crazed was orc and Sky was cop, they both picked snowie at about the same time. Crazed got n1ed, the game went on fine, where it looks like nothing suspicious was happening, but a comment at the end of the game kinda caught my eye, sky said "orc u did ur job too!" and when crazed brought up that maf nked, sky acted as if he knew he was maf the whole time, yeah he checked him twice in a row, but I think Crazed with the gy vision told him the maf. This game was nothing major, but with the other games I've looked at, it kinda fits with them. - ponylove

https://epicmafia.com/game/5335834/review Sky dying seemed to turn it into a town win? Cop got lynched d1, and the game turned around pretty quickly for town, but by reading, sky seemed to be trying to win, which hints at the possibility crazed is kinda "throwing" for him, which is also relfected by their stats this round. -ponylove

https://epicmafia.com/game/5335765/review Not really a suspicious game, it just shows they know each other, I think that's made pretty clear. -ponylove

https://epicmafia.com/game/5341333 - mafia wins
Sky is mafia and crazed is blue. They barely interact d1, and crazed seemed to barely be trying. When sky fos'd him instead of defending himself or making his case he appealed to sky to vote the other person he fos'd. -shamu

sky maf, crazed town :I'm pretty convinced the last day Crazed knew sky was maf, like he voted him, but sky was just like, oh crazed is maf, basically trying to get him hammered, and crazed didn't say much about it. - ponylove

Throughout many of the games here they barely interact with eachother d1 even when pregame they are seen talking to eachother.

Finishing thoughts - Crazedplayer and skydemon likely cheated in some of their games, with possible throwing by crazed in others.
Of the 11 games they share, sky won 7 lost 1 and 3 did not count. There are many cases where crazed or sky seem to obtain information they did not have before, and they know eachother.

Crazed has admitted to cheating before in the past
 CrazedPlayer2h 1m
Mana

    crazedplayer.

Years later and I am still remembered. Ty
- from the cheating database thread

Crazed is also Craz a previously banned user who definitely has cheated.
https://epicmafia.com/report/34925 in this report Craz defends it in first person implying the similarities.
Both players also came out of nowhere to enter this round.

Crazed also claims not to know Skydemon
My friend? I only met Sky this this week or last week. I don't even know who sky really is TBH.
-Round 446 Discussion.