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  2. Session Start: Tue Oct 16 23:12:51 2012
  3. Session Ident: Anri
  4. [23:12] Session Ident: Anri (UtoNet, csarmi) ([email protected])
  5. [23:12] <Anri> there now?
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  7. 01[23:12] Anri is [email protected] * Anri
  8. 01[23:12] Anri is a registered nick
  9. 01[23:12] Anri on #fratzia #battlefields %#pulse &#recruiting &#guyana @#kla.leaders ~#klaministry &#officialjerks @#sleepy @#scandinavia &#kaer ~#simians
  10. 01[23:12] Anri using farnsworth.us.utonet.org UtoNet -- With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg!
  11. 01[23:12] Anri has been idle 0secs, signed on Tue Oct 16 13:21:39
  12. 01[23:12] Anri End of /WHOIS list.
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  14. 01[23:13] <csarmi> yes?
  15. 01[23:13] <csarmi> almost sleepijng but go on
  16. [23:13] <Anri> ohh bra
  17. 01[23:13] <csarmi> *sleeping
  18. 01[23:13] <csarmi> obvously not back 'typing1 form
  19. [23:13] <Anri> the night is young
  20. 01[23:13] <csarmi> I'm not
  21. [23:14] <Anri> how do you want to proceed with all of this?
  22. 01[23:14] <csarmi> I dunno. What do you mean exactly?
  23. [23:14] <Anri> You wanna win the age?
  24. 01[23:14] <csarmi> I'd prefer so.
  25. [23:14] <Anri> I am thinking about dropping banks really
  26. [23:15] <Anri> Or we can drop you, but since we been hitting someone i do not consider to be an enemy
  27. 01[23:15] <csarmi> Well I dunno the how and what. I prefer to be back at 30k. I'm not even sure how it's doable.
  28. [23:16] <Anri> You can win the age without reclaiming this id say
  29. [23:16] <Anri> if u have the CFs?
  30. 01[23:17] <csarmi> maybe yes, maybe no
  31. [23:17] <Anri> You hurt Calle rather badly with that move as well
  32. 01[23:17] <csarmi> you see
  33. [23:17] <Anri> So i dont see why we would return 7k acres to you at all
  34. 01[23:17] <csarmi> the 20-25k range isn't safe at all because anyone can 2x a bank to 22k
  35. 01[23:18] <csarmi> Because you kept razing into my war. What wouldyou have had me done, applaud?
  36. [23:18] <Anri> But you have the CFs, correct?
  37. [23:18] <Anri> No, you responded accordingly
  38. [23:18] <Anri> Ofc
  39. 01[23:18] <csarmi> You can manage calle back if you want. He's been down and up again from what Iseen, he's creative
  40. [23:18] <Anri> I would have done the exact same thing
  41. 01[23:18] <csarmi> he's at a bad spot at 13k tho.
  42. [23:19] <Anri> mmm calle is very creative if you want to put it like that. I agree.
  43. 01[23:19] <csarmi> I have the CF's that matter yes
  44. [23:19] <Anri> He be back in no time
  45. 01[23:19] <csarmi> can't CF everyone in this world, as i said
  46. 01[23:19] <csarmi> anyone can have anything up at 20k anytijme they want to
  47. [23:19] <Anri> So we CF for EoA and be over with this
  48. 01[23:19] <csarmi> that includes you
  49. [23:20] <Anri> Its just very problematic
  50. 01[23:20] <csarmi> as soon as I got my acres back, I'm fine with that
  51. [23:20] <Anri> We would not have hit you if i knew it was you
  52. 01[23:20] <csarmi> You can just explore calle to 20k and have him hit back down or anything, I'M sure you can be creative
  53. [23:20] <Anri> Well, we dont run charity unless i decide Apoplexia should be taken down a bit
  54. [23:20] <Anri> Well yea, if we decide too we can prob take you out here
  55. [23:20] <Anri> I mean bank fight is on
  56. 01[23:21] <csarmi> It's not charity or not, it's fair play in my book.
  57. [23:21] <Anri> I however still want to give you the chance to crown
  58. 01[23:21] <csarmi> At this point I couldn't care less about who takes out owho and what
  59. [23:21] <Anri> Since i sincerly dont consider you an enemy at all
  60. [23:21] <Anri> Should i take that as you do not want to crown?
  61. 01[23:21] <csarmi> I'm either back at 30k, or i dont care
  62. [23:21] <Anri> Because i think u crown if we CF here and now
  63. 01[23:21] <csarmi> I care about fair play, about building kd, and about land crown too es
  64. 01[23:22] <csarmi> in that order
  65. [23:22] <Anri> Well, we think different about fair play since game mechanics is crap right now
  66. 01[23:22] <csarmi> I don't think I'm being unreasonable after all this, if you put yourself in my shoes, you'll see why and how.
  67. [23:22] <Anri> There just is not room to give what we beleived was an enemy a chance to win because the other KD is stubborn enough to not WD
  68. [23:22] <Anri> it just dont work like that
  69. 01[23:23] <csarmi> and again, even if I didn't value fairnessabove all, 23k is just not a place i wanna be
  70. [23:23] <Anri> I am trying to be nice here instead of have a raze-fest against each other
  71. 01[23:23] <csarmi> me too
  72. 01[23:24] <csarmi> Anri, I don't say I can't see your point.
  73. [23:24] <Anri> bank world is tuff shit :/
  74. 01[23:24] <csarmi> But I wouldn'rt raze into war, ever.
  75. [23:24] <Anri> but the game allows this crap play
  76. 01[23:25] <csarmi> I wouldn't have believed even you guys would be low enouh to do so.
  77. [23:25] <Anri> well its a different thing when a stubborn ghetto decides who crowns or not
  78. 01[23:25] <csarmi> This crap play is allowed to police fakewars ands such, I expect
  79. [23:25] <Anri> its not a normal situation or a normal war
  80. [23:25] <Anri> how much did u tog for on 550k pessies?
  81. 01[23:26] <csarmi> I dunn. But I spőent all my gold AND soldiers aiding my KD.
  82. [23:26] <Anri> yes while in war
  83. 01[23:26] <csarmi> Normally, I didn't even have anything to build my army
  84. [23:26] <Anri> but in two days when u saw the end coming? 600k pessies and how much for a tog?
  85. 01[23:26] <csarmi> at one point, I was almost breakable by CQ
  86. [23:26] <Anri> U could prob have farmed our banks out after war
  87. 01[23:27] <csarmi> Yes, I saw war end would be coming and I stil chose to aid my kd 100%
  88. [23:27] <Anri> Should we sitt and watch it happen?
  89. [23:27] <Anri> ayee when u togging millions there was room for you to do that
  90. 01[23:27] <csarmi> that''s BS, how do you farm 19k with 35k, there are nw based gains
  91. [23:27] <Anri> Not good enough
  92. [23:28] <Anri> when i farm i hit people half my size if i have too for 50a
  93. 01[23:28] <csarmi> I never would have thought about attacking so low
  94. 01[23:28] <csarmi> a sec
  95. 01[23:28] <csarmi> my tea needs some sugar
  96. [23:28] <Anri> :P ok
  97. 01[23:29] <csarmi> Ghetto cats stole my sugar!
  98. 01[23:29] <csarmi> trus story, ask Elurin
  99. 01[23:30] <csarmi> I can see that you may be concerned by someone else having a 32k bank while you have 16k and 19k. Farmig reasons wouldn't even cross my mind though. Maybe because I'm not a farmer.
  100. 01[23:31] <csarmi> Shitplay people because they 'might shitplay you' is not smth I'd ever want to place in my philosophy.
  101. 01[23:31] <csarmi> also a lame excuse
  102. 01[23:31] <csarmi> wait i bought sugar, there we go
  103. 01[23:31] <csarmi> yips
  104. 01[23:32] <csarmi> So lemme tell you the story from my side.
  105. 01[23:32] <csarmi> I spend halfof an age educating my ghetto, making sure to find nice wars etc.
  106. 01[23:32] <csarmi> I find a fair and fun war. I work 10 straight days doing the war
  107. 01[23:32] <csarmi> as
  108. 01[23:32] <csarmi> bank
  109. 01[23:32] <csarmi> and
  110. 01[23:32] <csarmi> monarch
  111. 01[23:32] <csarmi> and
  112. 01[23:33] <csarmi> war leader
  113. 01[23:33] <csarmi> I'm sure you understand how taxing that is.
  114. 01[23:34] <csarmi> We ahve organized MV's, expose thieves runs, made sure people don't get chaine (yes, wake up every hour to send them the 3k solds to prevent military leaves)
  115. [23:34] <Anri> Why are you arguing all of this so much if you dont want to get #1 position?
  116. [23:34] <Anri> I smell a bit of BS right there Csarmi
  117. 01[23:35] <csarmi> Thene there goes someone razing right into my war, taking me down 7k, ruining my whole monday and tuesday, my whole age, taking the well-deserved warwin away from my guys (saw the unique counts right? impressive from semi-ghetto)
  118. [23:35] <Anri> If you wanted to win you could have trained up long ago
  119. 01[23:35] <csarmi> So instead of a propőer war finish and proper, relaxing war CF I get this
  120. [23:35] <Anri> i call BS again
  121. 01[23:36] <csarmi> i just kept aiding actually
  122. [23:36] <Anri> you could have drafted/train and won
  123. 01[23:36] <csarmi> we realized we were close to nw win about 1 day before you started razing
  124. [23:36] <Anri> so ofc you wanted to keep farming and take the win late
  125. 01[23:36] <csarmi> didn't even check that
  126. [23:36] <Anri> ok
  127. [23:36] <Anri> I will choose to beleive in your honesty
  128. [23:36] <Anri> from the outside we saw 550k pessies
  129. 01[23:36] <csarmi> I wanted them to surrender rather than claimthe 50% win
  130. [23:36] <Anri> and not anyone trying to get the auto-wd
  131. 01[23:37] <csarmi> I think they'd have
  132. [23:37] <Anri> you see how this looks
  133. [23:37] <Anri> I have not even mentioned this in the forum after all mess there
  134. 01[23:37] <csarmi> I never tried to have the auto-wd, it'd have happened naturally.
  135. [23:37] <Anri> It looks very dumb man
  136. [23:37] <Anri> it loooks as if you wanted to farm acres and keep income super high
  137. [23:37] <Anri> not get the win
  138. [23:37] <Anri> I know as a bank you get greedy
  139. [23:37] <Anri> it happens to everyone
  140. [23:38] <Anri> and i can see it happend to you also
  141. [23:38] <Anri> But a bank never admits that
  142. 01[23:38] <csarmi> Did you see my gold count too?
  143. [23:38] <Anri> i have never had more then 200k pessies
  144. [23:38] <Anri> with ToG
  145. [23:38] <Anri> but i know what i earned when i had that much
  146. 01[23:38] <csarmi> I didn't save up any
  147. [23:38] <Anri> and i know what jdorje togged on his almost 30k faery
  148. [23:39] <Anri> did u run 50% wages and active science?
  149. 01[23:39] <csarmi> I ran 200% wages
  150. [23:39] <Anri> how come?
  151. 01[23:39] <csarmi> and i had my science on active the whole war like i always do unless total lack of money
  152. 01[23:39] <csarmi> why would I run lower wages
  153. [23:39] <Anri> to get more gc?
  154. 01[23:39] <csarmi> didnt even cross my mind
  155. [23:40] <Anri> hmm ok
  156. 01[23:40] <csarmi> I had enough off/def to be flexible in my send outs
  157. [23:40] <Anri> Well, i dont want to be a douche here man. I think you were struck with a bit of greed even if you say otherwise
  158. 01[23:40] <csarmi> so that even if I get plagued and they train 40k on theri to offense, id be safe
  159. 01[23:41] <csarmi> I wanted to win the war in all accounts
  160. 01[23:41] <csarmi> land, honor, nw
  161. [23:41] <Anri> I cant imagine how someone would not train up to win if it were not for farming more acres
  162. 01[23:41] <csarmi> and have it funz for aslong as possible
  163. [23:41] <Anri> I dont buy this entire thing about you not playing for #1
  164. 01[23:42] <csarmi> Look
  165. [23:42] <Anri> You seem to be very much about getting back on 30k acres
  166. 01[23:42] <csarmi> 1) about not trainign up to claim win:
  167. 01[23:42] <csarmi> I believe that a war should end with one side withdrawing, hopefully the losing one.
  168. 01[23:42] <csarmi> (...)
  169. [23:43] <Anri> This is what i dont understand
  170. 01[23:43] <csarmi> So I didn't do anythign AGAINST passig the 50% mark, but didn't specically planneed for it either. It wasn't even close until the last day.
  171. 01[23:43] <csarmi> They ahve lost a 150k prov on saturday or so
  172. 01[23:44] <csarmi> and at the end the nw drop of theirs and nw gain of ours started to beome much sharper
  173. 01[23:44] <csarmi> usually it was 7.6 vs 4.3
  174. [23:44] <Anri> and u did not train up to win over all of that time?
  175. 01[23:44] <csarmi> even been at 7.2 4.7
  176. [23:44] <Anri> did you nw drop to stay closer in range to them also?
  177. 01[23:44] <csarmi> I didn't even think about it...
  178. 01[23:45] <csarmi> You mean before the war?
  179. 01[23:45] <csarmi> or in the war?
  180. [23:45] <Anri> in the entire war
  181. 01[23:45] <csarmi> I didn't nw drop
  182. [23:45] <Anri> im gonna smoke now
  183. [23:45] <Anri> you have my EoA cf if you want it
  184. [23:45] <Anri> else we keep fighting i guess
  185. 01[23:47] <csarmi> [23:41] <Anri> I dont buy this entire thing about you not playing for #1 <-- sure I'm playing for #1 (who would not, at this acres), but that's never been the top priority
  186. [23:48] <Anri> Ok so if u still want a remote chance on it we should CF each other for EoA and leave this behind
  187. 01[23:48] <csarmi> I've got to 30k with fair play. Which I got shit-played out of.
  188. [23:48] <Anri> I cant give back any acres after u razed down calle
  189. [23:48] <Anri> Its not how this works
  190. 01[23:48] <csarmi> Why not, it makes that easier actually.
  191. [23:49] <Anri> You played for #1, you did not take the win when you could do it long before
  192. [23:49] <Anri> Threat = removed
  193. [23:49] <Anri> Calle and apop played for #1
  194. 01[23:49] <csarmi> not asurprise
  195. [23:49] <Anri> playing field is even again
  196. [23:50] <Anri> its not a suprise to me either that you did not take the win when you could have
  197. [23:50] <Anri> all of this we only wanted to win is BS
  198. [23:50] <Anri> you wanted to farm acres man
  199. 01[23:50] <csarmi> its not BS
  200. [23:50] <Anri> ofc it is when you wanted to farm acres instead of get the win
  201. [23:50] <Anri> its more obvious then ever now
  202. [23:51] <Anri> Here i was and beleived we did something really dirty and felt rather bad about it
  203. [23:51] <Anri> Now i find out we really didnt cause you farmed so hard instead of getting the win
  204. 01[23:51] <csarmi> So you think I should have had tried to force them out?
  205. [23:51] <Anri> and you did it to get #1 clear position and be crown winner
  206. 01[23:52] <csarmi> by claiming 50% nw win?
  207. [23:52] <Anri> ofc
  208. [23:52] <Anri> long before
  209. 01[23:52] <csarmi> I just didn't think about thatat all.
  210. [23:52] <Anri> thats very easy to say dude
  211. [23:53] <Anri> and we should just take your word for that when you are #1 bank with free farming and crazy econ?
  212. 01[23:53] <csarmi> I was bogged down on the every-hour fights
  213. 01[23:54] <csarmi> I spent most of the war at 9% mana sharp
  214. 01[23:54] <csarmi> and in plague
  215. 01[23:54] <csarmi> only got to a stabilized good econ at about saturday evening
  216. 01[23:55] <csarmi> when I could think about such things as savbing up
  217. 01[23:55] <csarmi> even then, i ran into too low soldiers on sunday
  218. 01[23:56] <csarmi> Had to keep sending three-way
  219. 01[23:57] <csarmi> saturday we figure out about this nw thing that we were quite close and figured we'll be gaining nw fast enough for winning in 2 or 3 days
  220. 01[23:58] <csarmi> Before that, funny as it sounds, nw based gain didn't even cross our mind.
  221. Session Close: Wed Oct 17 00:00:00 2012
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  225. Session Start: Wed Oct 17 00:00:00 2012
  226. Session Ident: Anri
  227. [00:00] <Anri> Dont buy it
  228. 01[00:00] <csarmi> Dont buy what?
  229. [00:00] <Anri> 9% mana all war?
  230. [00:00] <Anri> cause u togged?
  231. 01[00:00] <csarmi> most
  232. [00:00] <Anri> no econ and no soldiers?
  233. 01[00:00] <csarmi> I kept togging
  234. [00:00] <Anri> you could have grown at any time you wanted
  235. 01[00:00] <csarmi> and I ket aiding out
  236. 01[00:00] <csarmi> *kept
  237. [00:01] <Anri> you could have grown and won by day 7
  238. [00:01] <Anri> without a single problem
  239. [00:01] <Anri> and still aid your KD as much as they wanted
  240. 01[00:01] <csarmi> I suppose I could have pumped nw at the cost of letting my kd mates down
  241. [00:01] <Anri> no
  242. [00:01] <Anri> you prob could have aided them also
  243. [00:01] <Anri> without any problems
  244. 01[00:01] <csarmi> I dunno Anri, it didnt seem like that to me. ASt day 4-7 I was pretty much all spent, all the time
  245. [00:01] <Anri> how many millions worth of gc did u tog?
  246. 01[00:01] <csarmi> total?
  247. 01[00:01] <csarmi> not a clue
  248. [00:02] <Anri> in one tog
  249. [00:02] <Anri> cmon
  250. 01[00:02] <csarmi> In the last day?
  251. [00:02] <Anri> 2-3 millions per tog?
  252. 01[00:02] <csarmi> I think togs were 1.5 or so
  253. 01[00:02] <csarmi> wait lemme think
  254. 01[00:03] <csarmi> i think income was 2.5 mill-ish
  255. 01[00:03] <csarmi> on sunday
  256. 01[00:03] <csarmi> on sunday my econ was quite good already
  257. 01[00:03] <csarmi> aha there i go
  258. 01[00:04] <csarmi> things are coming back
  259. 01[00:04] <csarmi> ever since thursday or so
  260. 01[00:04] <csarmi> I saw that i was quite close to my kd's half nw
  261. 01[00:04] <csarmi> was like 3.5. to 7.2 and such things
  262. 01[00:04] <csarmi> so I made it a prioroty to try to raise my nw
  263. 01[00:05] <csarmi> to pass the 50% mark of my kd and be able to swicth monarchy when needed, instead of having to get a lot of players online for vote switch
  264. 01[00:05] <csarmi> I never ould quite get it, not even by sunday when i was almost 4 mill and kd close on 8.1
  265. 01[00:05] <csarmi> *could
  266. 01[00:06] <csarmi> and I even made it a priority to soem extent. but when someone asked, I made sure to give
  267. 01[00:06] <csarmi> I was quite a noob bank to be honest, never even had much reserves
  268. 01[00:06] <csarmi> which I suppose I should, but always spent it
  269. [00:07] <Anri> tog is up to 80% of income
  270. [00:07] <Anri> so tog would be more like 2 mill gc
  271. [00:07] <Anri> plus the 2.5 mill gc per tick
  272. 01[00:07] <csarmi> 40-80
  273. [00:07] <Anri> thats 4.5 mill gc per tick with tog
  274. [00:07] <Anri> if u had a good cast
  275. 01[00:07] <csarmi> yup on sunday i made a profit
  276. 01[00:07] <csarmi> I even started to have a few millons reserve
  277. [00:07] <Anri> and under this entire time ghetto cats stole you?
  278. [00:08] <Anri> And this is not mentioned at all
  279. 01[00:08] <csarmi> nah they never stole me
  280. [00:08] <Anri> how is that not interfering in war?
  281. [00:08] <Anri> you said earlier they stole you
  282. 01[00:08] <csarmi> that was a joke
  283. 01[00:08] <csarmi> 'ghetto cats stole my sugar'
  284. 01[00:08] <csarmi> I was trying to find my sugar
  285. 01[00:08] <csarmi> for my tea
  286. 01[00:08] <csarmi> lol
  287. [00:08] <Anri> hmm ok :P
  288. [00:09] <Anri> well anyway i am not changing my mind. I think you are a good guy but somewhat you became greedy in that war and it turned into pure farming. Thus Simians said enough. If you would have wanted the win and been left alone you could have been so
  289. 01[00:09] <csarmi> I'm ot shitting you, my kd really took up all my gc adgold, i couldn't even pay them promptly all the time
  290. [00:09] <Anri> The greed had a price
  291. [00:09] <Anri> And right now i want to CF for EoA
  292. [00:10] <Anri> provs around that size gets maxed out TBs more then quickly
  293. [00:10] <Anri> Csarmi i am really trying to be nice here and best for us both is to CF for EoA and just move along
  294. [00:10] <Anri> you still have a chance to win
  295. [00:11] <Anri> and we dont have to raze each other out
  296. [00:11] <Anri> I dont buy your entire story
  297. [00:11] <Anri> and you must understand that from our perspective this looks very much as farming
  298. 01[00:11] <csarmi> I'd like my acres back Anri and I'm very much at the idc level right now.
  299. 01[00:12] <csarmi> I understand your persepective
  300. 01[00:12] <csarmi> dont give you the right to raze into other's wars
  301. [00:12] <Anri> Well we been in that idc level for entire age
  302. [00:12] <Anri> when someone is sitting on #1 with free growth in a war he can end then it becomes farming
  303. [00:12] <Anri> we had every right to stay in the competition instead of let you win by farming
  304. 01[00:13] <csarmi> I wasn't farming tho... You might hav thought so, but you could approah me anytime to ask me out on it. You never did.
  305. 01[00:14] <csarmi> And as for finishing the war up faster, sooner we could finish was probably monday or so. Atualyl, it probably would have.
  306. 01[00:14] <csarmi> I see your point man.
  307. 01[00:14] <csarmi> *Actually.
  308. 01[00:15] <csarmi> I understand why it might have looked like farming to you even if it wasn't so.
  309. 01[00:16] <csarmi> Just by giving up 5-7k acres you're already pulling acres off me 'for not finishing fast enough'
  310. [00:16] <Anri> So its all missunderstanding?
  311. 01[00:16] <csarmi> what misunderstanding?
  312. [00:16] <Anri> you forget you razed calle x6 times?
  313. 01[00:16] <csarmi> SoI did, after he 6xrazed me into war?
  314. [00:16] <Anri> so, we are even
  315. 01[00:16] <csarmi> we we aren't
  316. [00:16] <Anri> you did not end a war you could end by winning and kept farming
  317. 01[00:16] <csarmi> *well
  318. [00:17] <Anri> we ended it when u choose not to end it yourself after days of having the chance to do it
  319. 01[00:17] <csarmi> I couldnt end the war really faster
  320. [00:17] <Anri> when you are #1 you are watched
  321. [00:17] <Anri> you knew my banks was watching you and rest of the server as well
  322. 01[00:17] <csarmi> may have cut down 1 day the most
  323. [00:17] <Anri> when u kept war going u gave them a chance for me to say "ok" hit him down
  324. 01[00:18] <csarmi> As I said before.
  325. [00:18] <Anri> it was your own play that got you in this position
  326. [00:18] <Anri> you could have been sitting on lets say 28k acres with a WW
  327. 01[00:18] <csarmi> It never even crossed my mind that people would be so low as to raze into a war
  328. [00:18] <Anri> its not low at all when ur in that position without support
  329. [00:19] <Anri> and playing with 550k pessies without ending the war
  330. [00:19] <Anri> by training up
  331. [00:19] <Anri> cmon man
  332. 01[00:19] <csarmi> Told ya.
  333. [00:19] <Anri> there is more then you that play for #1
  334. 01[00:19] <csarmi> I only had 550k pezz on sunday
  335. [00:19] <Anri> why would we allow that farming?
  336. 01[00:19] <csarmi> things started to go up vers straight sine friday night or so
  337. [00:19] <Anri> even if you had it on sunday you had plenty of pessies to have 3 mill income with tog and win the war
  338. 01[00:19] <csarmi> *since
  339. [00:19] <Anri> no man
  340. [00:20] <Anri> you could have won day 7
  341. [00:20] <Anri> and ended it right there
  342. 01[00:20] <csarmi> I do know that even on saturday I ha zero resources in reserve
  343. [00:20] <Anri> you kept it going for farming reason
  344. [00:20] <Anri> its easier if you admit that
  345. 01[00:20] <csarmi> How could I have won day 7?
  346. [00:20] <Anri> by auto-wd ofc
  347. 01[00:20] <csarmi> a sec
  348. 01[00:22] <csarmi> at day 5 or 6
  349. 01[00:22] <csarmi> it was 7.2 mill vs 4.8 mill
  350. 01[00:22] <csarmi> na they just came to take down our 6k guy
  351. 01[00:23] <csarmi> now it's possible that at day 6 I can start thinking about auto-wd (i didnT)
  352. [00:23] <Anri> you did not even try
  353. [00:23] <Anri> and i beleive you could have made it
  354. 01[00:23] <csarmi> actually
  355. [00:23] <Anri> with proper strategy at mind
  356. 01[00:23] <csarmi> as i told you, i tried
  357. 01[00:23] <csarmi> I tried to get at least half my OWN kd nw
  358. [00:23] <Anri> nah not good enough
  359. 01[00:24] <csarmi> never even managed that
  360. [00:24] <Anri> I am really not stupid Csarmi
  361. [00:24] <Anri> or your not that good of a player and really missed all of this
  362. [00:24] <Anri> ?
  363. 01[00:24] <csarmi> check out the graph
  364. 01[00:24] <csarmi> http://www.utopiatargetfinder.eu/veil-of-shadows/active-wars?id=662
  365. [00:24] <Anri> It does not matter because we had legit reasons for our move
  366. 01[00:24] <csarmi> Soonest the auto-wd entered my mind was
  367. [00:24] <Anri> and now i really want a CF for EoA instead of raping each other down
  368. 01[00:24] <csarmi> at the 4.2 mill point for them
  369. 01[00:24] <csarmi> when tehy have just lost a prov
  370. 01[00:25] <csarmi> that was day 8 or rather even 9
  371. 01[00:25] <csarmi> cant make sense of timing on that scale and i got no muh record
  372. 01[00:26] <csarmi> I might have been stupid notto think of it earlier, but there was a lot of things I didnt tink of. For example, first day that ET/SW crossed my mind was day 6 or so...
  373. 01[00:27] <csarmi> It has been long workdays and longer utopia days, i had not much time for reflection, i just went with the flow
  374. 01[00:27] <csarmi> which usually had me under
  375. 01[00:27] <csarmi> I'm not sure you realize how taxing it was forme.
  376. 01[00:27] <csarmi> I hadn't slept a straight three hours
  377. 01[00:27] <csarmi> (brb)
  378. [00:28] <Anri> i had not sleept more then 3h entire weekend
  379. [00:28] <Anri> when i took decission to allow the hit
  380. [00:28] <Anri> does not matter really man
  381. [00:28] <Anri> i dont want to debatte all of this
  382. [00:28] <Anri> you think in one way i think in another
  383. [00:28] <Anri> im really sad it was you we hit, i really am
  384. [00:28] <Anri> but i cant change that
  385. [00:28] <Anri> it was a farm war after day 7
  386. [00:29] <Anri> i gtg now
  387. [00:29] <Anri> I wont be on til tmr now
  388. [00:29] <Anri> And apoplexia and calle is free hand over that time
  389. [00:29] <Anri> so either we CF now or game is on
  390. [00:29] <Anri> gf wants me to get to bed
  391. [00:29] <Anri> asap like right now
  392. [00:29] <Anri> so decide quick really
  393. [00:32] <Anri> i told calle and apoplexia if you make a move we raze you out even if you are to raze us
  394. 01[00:32] <csarmi> I give you the same deal I agve calle right after he razed me. You put me back to 28.4k and we're game. Ekse I just dc
  395. [00:32] <Anri> leaving for bed now
  396. 01[00:32] <csarmi> *else
  397. [00:32] <Anri> ok then
  398. 01[00:32] <csarmi> and i gave it to him
  399. 01[00:32] <csarmi> right at that moment after razes
  400. [00:32] <Anri> i have to set a bounce wave now i guess
  401. 01[00:32] <csarmi> he bullshited me
  402. [00:32] <Anri> and raze you out
  403. [00:32] <Anri> unwillingly
  404. [00:32] <Anri> thats not good for me
  405. [00:32] <Anri> i did not want to organize this
  406. [00:33] <Anri> and u wanted #1
  407. [00:33] <Anri> be smart here
  408. 01[00:33] <csarmi> well what we can do is
  409. 01[00:33] <csarmi> sleep one over this
  410. 01[00:33] <csarmi> and talk tomorrow
  411. [00:33] <Anri> we can do that but i will not change position
  412. [00:33] <Anri> you can sleep on my proposal
  413. [00:33] <Anri> ok?
  414. 01[00:33] <csarmi> sure
  415. [00:34] <Anri> goodie, bed and gf calls
  416. 01[00:34] <csarmi> may i post the logs up?
  417. [00:34] <Anri> gnite c ya tmr
  418. 01[00:35] <csarmi> i dont wanna doublepot things on forums
  419. [00:35] <Anri> You can post em up if you really want too but i dont see why
  420. 01[00:35] <csarmi> *doublepost
  421. 01[00:35] <csarmi> it addresses the same points mostly
  422. 01[00:35] <csarmi> that you brought up there as well
  423. [00:35] <Anri> i dont know why everything simians does must be knowledge to entire server
  424. [00:36] <Anri> but its up to you in the end
  425. 01[00:36] <csarmi> the only reason i wanna post this
  426. 01[00:36] <csarmi> is to address the things you came up with
  427. [00:36] <Anri> i am okey with it so do as you wish really
  428. [00:36] <Anri> i stand by my words
  429. 01[00:36] <csarmi> without having to spend an hour to put that into shape
  430. [00:36] <Anri> well i did not want to speak about it much
  431. [00:36] <Anri> but i am forced to make this diplomatic attempt
  432. [00:36] <Anri> nothing i wanted to do
  433. 01[00:36] <csarmi> okay have a good night for now
  434. [00:36] <Anri> its boring and i wish i did not have too
  435. [00:36] <Anri> lol
  436. 01[00:37] <csarmi> how do i reach you tomorrow
  437. 01[00:37] <csarmi> no irc
  438. [00:37] <Anri> i will be on irc from lunchtime to evening
  439. [00:37] <Anri> going to dentist tmr but other then that i am around here
  440. [00:37] <Anri> access irc by phone?
  441. 01[00:37] <csarmi> we talk the afternoon then i supose
  442. 01[00:37] <csarmi> see you
  443. [00:38] <Anri> c ya nn
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