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  1. [23:21:01] Common channels for Artela|Away [[email protected]]: +#wtp, ~#uswpchat
  2. [23:21:01] <Artela|Away> hey there
  3. [23:21:12] Artela|Away [[email protected]] has just left #wtp
  4. [23:21:12] Common channels for Artela|Away [[email protected]]: ~#uswpchat
  5. [23:21:18] <ValiantThor> hi
  6. [23:21:29] <Artela|Away> you're going to be getting some flack right now I guess
  7. [23:21:30] <Artela|Away> lol
  8. [23:21:40] <Artela|Away> which means your little plan is working :D
  9. [23:22:00] <Artela|Away> for backup on the CIA side you have WildOwl who is now aware of the circumstances
  10. [23:22:37] <ValiantThor> I need to know: who was making the deal with AFA
  11. [23:23:05] <Artela|Away> Publically of course I'm having to strengthen the view that this is all rogue action to make you seem like a real threat, more believable for AFA
  12. [23:23:20] <ValiantThor> LMAO
  13. [23:23:23] <ValiantThor> c'mon
  14. [23:23:29] <ValiantThor> it was you?
  15. [23:23:45] <Artela|Away> nah
  16. [23:24:33] <Artela|Away> I'm just making sure everyone thinks you're doing this for realz
  17. [23:24:33] <Artela|Away> :D
  18. [23:24:33] <Artela|Away> but I'm aware I'm not around a lot, so you can trust WildOwl too if you need an ear or whatever
  19. [23:24:44] <Artela|Away> because this couple of days is where it gets intense
  20. [23:25:07] <ValiantThor> Please tell me: did AFA sell votes to USWP
  21. [23:25:25] <Artela|Away> as to exec talking to AFA - happens a lot - always trying to see if there is a way out of the potential for PTO
  22. [23:25:26] <Artela|Away> and no
  23. [23:25:32] <Artela|Away> AFA did not sell votes to USWP
  24. [23:25:49] <Artela|Away> we don't need their votes
  25. [23:25:54] <ValiantThor> But someone from USWP wanted a deal
  26. [23:26:13] <Artela|Away> that wasn't a party matter
  27. [23:27:04] <ValiantThor> So who is it. I was told I will get the logs today
  28. [23:27:11] <ValiantThor> from the AFA
  29. [23:28:01] <Artela|Away> as I said, exec level are always looking to do deals to get them to leave or to become inactive or to be controlled and play nice - happens every time a new CP comes into possible election, and all candidates look into things like that
  30. [23:28:42] <ValiantThor> I know, I was there whenFrost payed them out
  31. [23:28:52] <ValiantThor> I initiated it
  32. [23:29:02] <Artela|Away> well, our CP candidate was no different
  33. [23:29:43] <Artela|Away> at no point would any of them do something that threatens USA though
  34. [23:30:36] <Artela|Away> they are merely doing their bit - just like you are now and did alongside Frost
  35. [23:30:45] <Artela|Away> AFA are so guillable
  36. [23:30:47] <ValiantThor> So no deal was made, they were only approched by one person
  37. [23:30:49] <Artela|Away> makes me laugh
  38. [23:31:17] <Artela|Away> from what I know yes, they were approached by one person, no deal was actually made even though negotiations took place
  39. [23:31:34] <ValiantThor> Potus authorised it?
  40. [23:32:51] <ValiantThor> Anyway: what would have happebed if they took the offer?
  41. [23:33:00] <ValiantThor> *happened
  42. [23:33:16] <Artela|Away> well, what is happening with them taking the offer you have in place?
  43. [23:33:18] <ValiantThor> where would they have dropped their votes?
  44. [23:33:28] <Artela|Away> they move to wherever, they get sold up the river
  45. [23:33:30] <ValiantThor> for who?
  46. [23:34:05] <Artela|Away> and as far as I'm aware the deal would just have been to drop the votes for the official candidate instead of DrDevil
  47. [23:34:24] <Artela|Away> but I wasn't invovled in that deal
  48. [23:34:29] <Artela|Away> so can't verify it
  49. [23:35:35] <Artela|Away> I only heard of it after the fact
  50. [23:35:36] <Artela|Away> have you managed to get anything useful out of them yet?
  51. [23:35:45] <ValiantThor> my information is: this person from USWP wanted them to vote not in PP elections, but for other election
  52. [23:35:53] <Artela|Away> I'd've thought they were getting quite cagey about these sorts of deals now
  53. [23:35:56] <ValiantThor> Congressonal or Potus
  54. [23:36:02] <Artela|Away> and yeah, would have been CP election
  55. [23:36:05] <ValiantThor> and they did not make the deal
  56. [23:36:37] <ValiantThor> so what would have been done if they have taken the deal?
  57. [23:37:00] <ValiantThor> they would have been instructed to vote for a certain candidate?
  58. [23:37:08] <ValiantThor> and gain what?
  59. [23:37:13] <ValiantThor> cc? gold?
  60. [23:37:14] <Artela|Away> that I don't know - I assume that they would have not voted for the AFA candidate and instead voted the official candidate
  61. [23:37:19] <Artela|Away> proving loyalty
  62. [23:37:41] <Artela|Away> some of them genuinely do want into mainstream politics in USA now
  63. [23:38:00] <Artela|Away> the only way they can do that is by proving loyalty
  64. [23:38:12] <Artela|Away> because of everything they've done so far
  65. [23:39:03] <Artela|Away> once this is over with and they've been stung again and you have all the info that you _can_ get I'll make sure people know it was an official op so it doesn't count against you
  66. [23:39:44] <Artela|Away> until it's over though, I'm treating you as "a threat" in public lol
  67. [23:40:01] <Artela|Away> so apologies if you're getting flack from that
  68. [23:40:07] <ValiantThor> Mazzy:Cat is freaking out
  69. [23:40:29] <Artela|Away> I *can't* tell her
  70. [23:40:36] <Artela|Away> she's as secure as a damn sieve
  71. [23:40:41] <Artela|Away> leaks all over the place >.<
  72. [23:41:19] <Artela|Away> however, she'll be making sure there are as many blockers as possible for you to put above them on the ballot :D
  73. [23:41:45] <Artela|Away> don't forget the timing on that - it;ll be a bitch if that gets screwed up
  74. [23:42:08] <ValiantThor> So if the Serbs would prove their loyality - would something change?
  75. [23:42:41] <Artela|Away> if they can somehow show that they put eUSA first, and not eSerbia, then things could beging to change
  76. [23:42:50] <ValiantThor> and how can the prove anything???
  77. [23:43:10] <Artela|Away> well, only fighting for our alliance and country and not Serbia would be a start :P
  78. [23:43:20] <ValiantThor> Like doing damage against Serbia?
  79. [23:43:27] <ValiantThor> can't see that happen
  80. [23:43:30] <Artela|Away> and _not_ supporting Serbia
  81. [23:43:34] <Artela|Away> exactly
  82. [23:43:38] <Artela|Away> that's the problem
  83. [23:43:48] <Artela|Away> they can't be American AND Serbian
  84. [23:43:52] <Artela|Away> they have to choose
  85. [23:44:22] <Artela|Away> it's like I can't be American and British in the game - all that time we were on opposite sides I've fought against UK, even though it's where I started out
  86. [23:44:53] <Artela|Away> that's how you prove loyalty - you convert fully - you _become_ American
  87. [23:45:37] <Artela|Away> some can manage it
  88. [23:45:39] <Artela|Away> some can't
  89. [23:45:55] <Artela|Away> those that can't should go back to the country they support
  90. [23:46:05] <Artela|Away> really it's quite simple :)
  91. [23:47:54] <ValiantThor> But please tell me: you said you are going rogue against me
  92. [23:48:42] <Artela|Away> I said I'm supporting the view of everyone else that you have a rogue congress list building - if everyone is running around to do ATO it's no bad thing and lends credibility to you with AFA
  93. [23:49:12] <Artela|Away> *I* am not going rogue against you - and once this op is done and you have all you could get without harming USA then I'll make sure people know it was a CIA op
  94. [23:49:40] <Artela|Away> and for backup Wildowl knows and has proof of that as well
  95. [23:50:05] <Artela|Away> I will not throw you to the wind after the effort you have put in
  96. [23:50:58] <ValiantThor> But what do I need you for that?
  97. [23:52:27] <ValiantThor> ???
  98. [23:52:35] <Artela|Away> well, even if you prove yourself by not selecting any for congress, the fact that this happened will always make people think oddly - always best to let them know it was official so it doesn't potentially harm you politically
  99. [23:53:05] <Artela|Away> the whole "no smoke without fire" thing sticks unless it is quickly dealt with
  100. [23:53:57] <ValiantThor> why would it always make people think oddly?
  101. [23:54:54] <Artela|Away> Because you sometimes have a tendency to troll a little... and trolls have always tended to be the ones who have "gone to the AFA side"
  102. [23:55:01] <Artela|Away> people like CG
  103. [23:55:26] <Artela|Away> things aren't always because of what we do ourselves, they are sometimes people's perceptions
  104. [23:55:27] <ValiantThor> and how could can anything do me harm after the elections are over and all candidates were lined up on the ballot with blockers behind
  105. [23:55:40] <Artela|Away> and people will applaud you if we go public - they're always up for screwing with the AFA :)
  106. [23:56:25] <Artela|Away> If you don't want me to make it public knowledge I won't, but I will at least have to let the exec know
  107. [23:56:34] <Artela|Away> because they are flgging you as a threat right now
  108. [23:56:41] <Artela|Away> and that flag will need to be removed
  109. [23:56:52] <ValiantThor> who is they?
  110. [23:56:57] <Artela|Away> the government
  111. [23:57:23] <Artela|Away> I am one of the few who can get that removed with no big questions getting asked
  112. [23:57:52] <Artela|Away> as I said, I want to make sure that nothing hurts you politically because of this
  113. [23:58:09] <ValiantThor> look, I don't need anything public when the Congressional are over
  114. [23:58:13] <Artela|Away> ok
  115. [23:58:45] <Artela|Away> I'll just let the few who need to know get that flag against you removed then if that's all you want
  116. [23:59:38] <ValiantThor> but I need to know: who beside you knows. Because if the Government does not atm
  117. [23:59:48] <Artela|Away> just me and WildWol
  118. [00:00:36] <ValiantThor> When we were spaeking you told me tha Tyler is also ok to talk to
  119. [00:00:59] <ValiantThor> the first time when I've spoken with you
  120. [00:01:46] <Artela|Away> Yes, but he's not been about so I haven't talked to him about it, but I wanted to make sure one of my trusted people had the info in case I couldn't be around for any reaons, hence WildOwl
  121. [00:01:55] <Artela|Away> but Tyler can be trusted either way
  122. [00:02:01] <Artela|Away> he's used to DHS duties
  123. [00:02:31] <ValiantThor> ok, so can we meet with him, you him and me?
  124. [00:02:57] <Artela|Away> one of the reasons I haven't talked to Tyler is he's never on the same times as me :(
  125. [00:03:15] <ValiantThor> And oh, Gnilraps know it, right?
  126. [00:03:30] <Artela|Away> Gnilraps has no idea about this op at all
  127. [00:04:24] <Artela|Away> nor does Frost (who was the one flagging all the moves by serbs into your party)
  128. [00:05:51] <Artela|Away> join channel #artela
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