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  1. [11:47:44 PM] aturtledoesbite: Alright, I guess I'll cut things here.
  2. [11:47:46 PM] MachuPichu: Why not faceran and RB?
  3. [11:47:50 PM] aturtledoesbite: Players: adv0catus, RaceBandit, Precarious, MachuPichu, racefan12, CrownHeiress, Sherlockian_4869, SilentSand
  4. [11:47:53 PM] racefan12: Pregame announcement: Woon is a nub
  5. [11:47:54 PM] adv0catus: faic* and race
  6. [11:47:57 PM] aturtledoesbite: Generating roles.
  7. [11:48:03 PM] RaceBandit: Why not just call me Bandit, Jojo, or Josh?
  8. [11:48:04 PM] MachuPichu: 8 people woo.
  9. [11:48:07 PM] Precarious: back
  10. [11:48:12 PM] MachuPichu: Well I didn't know you were called Josh
  11. [11:48:20 PM] Sherlockian_4869: Josh is such an icky name
  12. [11:48:26 PM] Sherlockian_4869: You're michael now.
  13. [11:48:28 PM] Precarious: I see I missed a brief Space Jam reference?
  14. [11:48:28 PM] Sherlockian_4869: K?
  15. [11:48:29 PM] SilentSand: hey bandit
  16. [11:48:30 PM] Precarious: :(
  17. [11:48:34 PM] SilentSand: hey racenub
  18. [11:48:36 PM] racefan12: but Sand is Michael
  19. [11:48:36 PM] racefan12: I think
  20. [11:48:39 PM] MachuPichu: I posted the Space Jam themesong as pregame
  21. [11:48:41 PM] occooa: sand is michael
  22. [11:48:42 PM] MachuPichu: You even commented on it.
  23. [11:48:43 PM] Sherlockian_4869: then Sand can be Cody.
  24. [11:48:46 PM] MachuPichu: damn it Prec.
  25. [11:48:50 PM] occooa: this is a surprising amount of people
  26. [11:48:50 PM] racefan12: ...
  27. [11:49:05 PM] occooa: hahah racebandit and racefan12
  28. [11:49:08 PM] occooa: gg
  29. [11:49:17 PM] Precarious: I didn't actually see the youtube link Machu
  30. [11:49:20 PM] racefan12: Anyway
  31. [11:49:21 PM] MachuPichu: ;_;
  32. [11:49:27 PM] Precarious: But I'm going to listen now :D
  33. [11:49:37 PM] MachuPichu: :)
  34. [11:49:41 PM] MachuPichu: Gotta get pumped up
  35. [11:49:46 PM] aturtledoesbite: Sending roles now.
  36. [11:49:57 PM] occooa: so the only thing going on is turtle is doing a mafia?
  37. [11:50:01 PM] MachuPichu: mhmm
  38. [11:50:02 PM] occooa: is adv0 here?
  39. [11:50:05 PM] MachuPichu: mhmm
  40. [11:50:05 PM] adv0catus: (Yes.)
  41. [11:50:06 PM] racefan12: I think I actually watched Space Jam when it came out, but I was 6, so I don't remember if/when it happened
  42. [11:50:13 PM] occooa: did you do trivia today, adv0?
  43. [11:50:15 PM] adv0catus: (Let's give turtle a minute, please.)
  44. [11:50:15 PM] MachuPichu: racefan watch it again.
  45. [11:50:18 PM] occooa: I thought it was supposed to be on Saturday
  46. [11:50:30 PM] Precarious: Space Jam encapsulates the 90s. Jordan, Loony Tunes, and Wayne Knight
  47. [11:50:36 PM] To adv0catus: You are a mafia member. Your partner is CrownHeiress. You win when nothing can stop you from achieving victory. (that is, if town loses the majority of players)
  48. [11:50:39 PM] MachuPichu: and Bill Murray
  49. [11:50:43 PM] Precarious: ^
  50. [11:51:07 PM] To RaceBandit: You are the Investigator. You may choose one person to investigate each night, and I will tell you whether they are Town or Mafia.
  51. [11:51:38 PM] To Precarious: You are the Bomb. If you are lynched, whoever places the final vote on you is killed as well. You are Town.
  52. [11:51:48 PM] To RaceBandit: (P.S. You are Town.)
  53. [11:51:49 PM] Precarious: cool, thanks (reply)
  54. [11:52:21 PM] To MachuPichu: You are the Ghost. If you are killed, you may continue talking in the game. However, you may not vote after dying. You are Town.
  55. [11:52:43 PM] To racefan12: You are the Vigilante. Each night, you may elect to kill one person if you so choose. You are Town.
  56. [11:52:45 PM] MachuPichu: Am I allowed to stalk people at night too after I die? ^^ (reply)
  57. [11:53:06 PM] To MachuPichu: Your powers are fully described in that whisper.
  58. [11:53:28 PM] MachuPichu: understood. (reply)
  59. [11:53:50 PM] To CrownHeiress: You are the Mafia Roleblocker. Your partner is adv0catus. In addition to a nightkill, each night, you may choose one person who cannot use their power that night. You win when the Town members no longer hold majority.
  60. [11:54:03 PM] CrownHeiress: Thanks! (reply)
  61. [11:55:00 PM] To Sherlockian_4869: You are the President. If you are tied for the highest vote with another person, that person will be lynched instead of you every time. As well, your vote breaks ties.
  62. [11:55:28 PM] To SilentSand: You are the Doctor. You may protect one person each night, however you may not protect the same person on consecutive nights. You are Town.
  63. [11:55:37 PM] To Sherlockian_4869: (P.S. You are Town.)
  64. [11:55:41 PM] aturtledoesbite: Everyone confirm.
  65. [11:55:44 PM] RaceBandit: I probably should pre-write my role PMs.
  66. [11:55:45 PM] Sherlockian_4869: fir
  67. [11:55:46 PM] RaceBandit: .confirm
  68. [11:55:46 PM] adv0catus: .mrifnoC
  69. [11:55:48 PM] SilentSand: Self-protect? (reply)
  70. [11:55:55 PM] CrownHeiress: /Confirm.
  71. [11:55:57 PM] MachuPichu: confirm
  72. [11:56:02 PM] SilentSand: conflirmatory
  73. [11:56:02 PM] To SilentSand: You may, but as with everyone else, not on consecutive nights.
  74. [11:56:20 PM] racefan12: /confirm
  75. [11:56:33 PM] Precarious: /confirm like an eighth grader in catholic school
  76. [11:56:43 PM] aturtledoesbite: >_<
  77. [11:56:52 PM] adv0catus: lol Precarious.
  78. [11:56:53 PM] Precarious: you're welcome
  79. [11:56:57 PM] MachuPichu: Not always Prec.
  80. [11:57:05 PM] aturtledoesbite: Anyway, the day begins. You have 30 minutes. You may not call for an extension. You may not elect not to lynch anyone.
  81. [11:57:05 PM] Sherlockian_4869: I don't get it
  82. [11:57:17 PM] adv0catus: Plurality? Reveal?
  83. [11:57:35 PM] racefan12: Woon is an 8th grader in catholic school
  84. [11:57:45 PM] aturtledoesbite: Plurality is in effect. Lynched players are revealed to everyone. Nightkilled players are revealed to the killer(s).
  85. [11:57:56 PM] Precarious: Okay, do we know anything about the set-up?
  86. [11:58:01 PM] adv0catus: No.
  87. [11:58:04 PM] RaceBandit: Janitor again <_<
  88. [11:58:04 PM] To adv0cauts: P.S. You may whisper CrownHeiress at any time.
  89. [11:58:04 PM] Kong Bot: adv0cauts cannot be reached. Please try again later.
  90. [11:58:13 PM] Sherlockian_4869: Janitor?
  91. [11:58:14 PM] To adv0catus: P.S. You may whisper CrownHeiress at any time.
  92. [11:58:21 PM] adv0catus: Thanks. (reply)
  93. [11:58:25 PM] To CrownHeiress: P.S. You may whisper adv0catus at any time.
  94. [11:58:29 PM] adv0catus: Already did, though. :P (reply)
  95. [11:58:30 PM] Precarious: Time to speculate then. Since we have a fairly large number of players, there's probably more than one mafia
  96. [11:58:31 PM] CrownHeiress: Already started. (reply)
  97. [11:58:40 PM] adv0catus: 7, right?
  98. [11:58:44 PM] MachuPichu: 8 I think
  99. [11:58:45 PM] Sherlockian_4869: 8
  100. [11:58:48 PM] Sherlockian_4869: jjhk
  101. [11:58:54 PM] RaceBandit: 7P probably is two scum.
  102. [11:59:00 PM] MachuPichu: I've actually never met Sherlock before I don't think. Hi I'm Machu. I ninja people.
  103. [11:59:10 PM] Precarious: 5-3 weighs to heavily toward mafia, so I'm guessing we're dealing with 6-2 or 5-2-1
  104. [11:59:12 PM] adv0catus: Sherlock = Woon
  105. [11:59:12 PM] Sherlockian_4869: Ello Machu. Happy birthday.
  106. [11:59:12 PM] racefan12: sherlock = woon
  107. [11:59:14 PM] Sherlockian_4869: lkmcxz,mndsfsfdsdfkdf
  108. [11:59:29 PM] Precarious: Possibly 6-1-1, but that's less likely
  109. [11:59:35 PM] SilentSand: woon = Sherlock
  110. [11:59:42 PM] Sherlockian_4869: the variable is on the left
  111. [11:59:43 PM] adv0catus: I think 5/2/1 is more likely.
  112. [11:59:49 PM] MachuPichu: ^
  113. [11:59:53 PM] adv0catus: But the 3rd party is probably a non-killing one.
  114. [12:00:02 AM] adv0catus: 2 NKs is harsh.
  115. [12:00:17 AM] Precarious: 5-2-1 also represents a sort of worst case scenario, so let's start from that
  116. [12:00:18 AM] racefan12: What non-killing third party would there be? Survivor? Jester?
  117. [12:00:20 AM] RaceBandit: Insert Vigilante into town side. *shot*
  118. [12:00:26 AM] adv0catus: Yeah, faic.
  119. [12:00:27 AM] RaceBandit: probably survivor
  120. [12:00:43 AM] adv0catus: Although, a Jester would have probably shown up by now.
  121. [12:00:43 AM] Precarious: If we mislynch and there's a nightkill, it becomes 3-2-1
  122. [12:00:43 AM] racefan12: I hate survivors
  123. [12:00:54 AM] RaceBandit: why?
  124. [12:01:09 AM] Sherlockian_4869: they can't win
  125. [12:01:16 AM] racefan12: I just see them as a distraction from the game
  126. [12:01:19 AM] Precarious: I played a bulletproof survivor once. It was glorious.
  127. [12:01:30 AM] adv0catus: Silent is playing? Crown, how you doing?
  128. [12:01:42 AM] SilentSand: I am playing, yeah
  129. [12:01:48 AM] adv0catus: Hi.
  130. [12:01:53 AM] Sherlockian_4869: Hello.
  131. [12:02:05 AM] MachuPichu: I have to pee but I can wait until night.
  132. [12:02:07 AM] RaceBandit: Actually, since I go to bed at or before midnight, I'm not sure I'll have time for my game. sorry. :/
  133. [12:02:08 AM] CrownHeiress: Sorry! I'm playing Crystal Story at the same time.
  134. [12:02:14 AM] MachuPichu: How much time left in this day?
  135. [12:02:20 AM] racefan12: too many people to keep track of the player list in my head
  136. [12:02:20 AM] adv0catus: Aww, RB.
  137. [12:02:28 AM] adv0catus: We have until XX:30?
  138. [12:02:38 AM] CrownHeiress: Yeah, a ton of time.
  139. [12:02:46 AM] MachuPichu: kk brb then
  140. [12:02:46 AM] adv0catus: But no extension and we have to lynch.
  141. [12:03:11 AM] CrownHeiress: Yup.
  142. [12:03:12 AM] RaceBandit: [If there are absolutely no votes at all when the deadline hits, what will determine the lynch?]
  143. [12:03:20 AM] adv0catus: RNG?
  144. [12:03:33 AM] RaceBandit: (I'm asking because I thought of that scenario during AitR.)
  145. [12:03:40 AM] RaceBandit: (Err, AotR)
  146. [12:03:49 AM] Precarious: assuming 5-2-1, mislynch and nk takes us to 3-2-1, so it makes more sense than an NL. But in 6-2, there's an argument to be made for NL
  147. [12:03:50 AM] racefan12: I was gonna say "Whoever the Vigilante shoots", but I don't want to beat a running joke into the ground
  148. [12:04:00 AM] Precarious: In general, NL tends to work against town though
  149. [12:04:01 AM] RaceBandit: We don't get NLs.
  150. [12:04:04 AM] adv0catus: Precarious, we can't NL.
  151. [12:04:08 AM] aturtledoesbite: If there is a tie for the highest vote (including 0), the lynched player will be randomly chosen from those in the lead.
  152. [12:04:12 AM] Precarious: ah, okay
  153. [12:04:13 AM] MachuPichu: back
  154. [12:04:34 AM] adv0catus: So, basically it's Plurality including 0.
  155. [12:04:54 AM] Precarious: if I get lynched by 0, does anyone blow up? (reply)
  156. [12:05:31 AM] To Precarious: I do, because to let the day end at 0 votes is so unbelievably insane my head would explode.
  157. [12:05:42 AM] To Precarious: But to answer the question you meant to ask, no.
  158. [12:05:50 AM] CrownHeiress: Sounds like it.
  159. [12:06:19 AM] MachuPichu: So we're at a standstill right now?
  160. [12:06:27 AM] racefan12: Looks like it
  161. [12:07:32 AM] MachuPichu: hmm. Not sure if people are taking mid-day naps or what.
  162. [12:07:43 AM] CrownHeiress: It's hard to decide what to do.
  163. [12:07:47 AM] SilentSand: I'm just thinking over other people's ideas.
  164. [12:07:50 AM] adv0catus: I just have nothing new to say and don't want to dominate chat.
  165. [12:07:51 AM] CrownHeiress: There's a lot of people.
  166. [12:07:59 AM] Precarious: we're kind of at an impasse. I may randomly vote for someone soon and see what happens, but I want to review the chat first
  167. [12:08:01 AM] CrownHeiress: And no one's quite sure of roles.
  168. [12:08:21 AM] aturtledoesbite: Oh, there is one more rule I should mention.
  169. [12:08:23 AM] SilentSand: That's it for me.
  170. [12:08:28 AM] aturtledoesbite: There are no hammers.
  171. [12:08:34 AM] adv0catus: Hmm.
  172. [12:08:34 AM] RaceBandit: o.o
  173. [12:08:37 AM] racefan12: ?
  174. [12:08:43 AM] Sherlockian_4869: um
  175. [12:08:45 AM] CrownHeiress: Whazza wha...?
  176. [12:08:54 AM] SilentSand: That's gonna make this game take a while.
  177. [12:09:26 AM] MachuPichu: ^
  178. [12:09:33 AM] racefan12: Only think I can take that to mean is that, even if majority is reached, the person isn't lynched until the end of the day
  179. [12:09:43 AM] aturtledoesbite: That is exactly what that means.
  180. [12:09:45 AM] racefan12: thing*
  181. [12:09:46 AM] SilentSand: That's how I understand it.
  182. [12:09:50 AM] Precarious: Which is really going to lengthen the game
  183. [12:10:08 AM] Precarious: that does suggest that the ability to insta-hammer could be adverse for town
  184. [12:10:12 AM] aturtledoesbite: The length of a given day will be modified by the number of living players.
  185. [12:10:45 AM] racefan12: What do you mean, Prec?
  186. [12:10:57 AM] Precarious: We've been assuming 5-2-1 as a worst case scenario
  187. [12:11:18 AM] racefan12: yeah
  188. [12:11:18 AM] Precarious: The inability to hammer could prevent mafia quick hammers, which suggests that the ratio could be even worse
  189. [12:11:26 AM] Precarious: maybe like 4-2-2 or something
  190. [12:11:26 AM] racefan12: hm
  191. [12:11:27 AM] RaceBandit: As in 5-3?
  192. [12:11:36 AM] CrownHeiress: Shiiiit...
  193. [12:11:46 AM] SilentSand: 5-3 would be horrible.
  194. [12:11:47 AM] CrownHeiress: Five-three would be bitchin' bard.
  195. [12:11:48 AM] Precarious: 5-3 seems too unbalanced, particularly with no announcement of a bloodless night 1
  196. [12:11:48 AM] MachuPichu: so a 50% chance to not vote town today?
  197. [12:11:50 AM] CrownHeiress: * hard.
  198. [12:12:26 AM] Precarious: It's just speculation; I'm just not sure why else there would be a no hammering policty
  199. [12:12:27 AM] adv0catus: Sorry, was distracted for a moment.
  200. [12:12:30 AM] Precarious: *policy
  201. [12:12:30 AM] racefan12: I mean, he could just be throwing stuff in to throw stuff in. I'm seeing a lot of things I don't normally see in chat mafias, though that's probably just from me not playing in forever
  202. [12:12:40 AM] adv0catus: Do you guys think the no hammer rule is for balance or maybe because of a role?
  203. [12:12:56 AM] RaceBandit: Wait, I just realized... Bluji mafias usually don't have hammers.
  204. [12:13:00 AM] Precarious: I had argued for balance a little while ago, but let's consider the latter possibility
  205. [12:13:16 AM] Precarious: Really? Why don't they? Let's see if that could apply here
  206. [12:13:16 AM] adv0catus: I know you did.
  207. [12:13:25 AM] adv0catus: The latter is the first thing to pop into my head, to be honest.
  208. [12:13:37 AM] adv0catus: The no hammer doesn't really feel like something atdb would just throw in.
  209. [12:13:48 AM] racefan12: Forum mafias usually don't get enough people voting for hammers to happen, at least in my experience
  210. [12:14:12 AM] Precarious: and I just realized...I could be the reason you added that rule o_O (reply)
  211. [12:14:22 AM] SilentSand: Well
  212. [12:14:46 AM] SilentSand: The intent of the rule probably is best noted from the fact turtle didn't remember to mention it at the beginning.
  213. [12:14:56 AM] SilentSand: Which leads me to believe it's just thrown in.
  214. [12:15:06 AM] racefan12: Fair point
  215. [12:15:10 AM] CrownHeiress: This is going to be a really long game, isn't it?
  216. [12:15:11 AM] adv0catus: That's true.
  217. [12:15:17 AM] adv0catus: Yes, it would seem to be so.
  218. [12:15:44 AM] Precarious: So, with the understanding that we can't hammer, it might be a good time to start voting and see what happens
  219. [12:15:59 AM] racefan12: I mean, turtle could just want to see how a bunch of sleep-deprived people play Mafia
  220. [12:16:04 AM] CrownHeiress: I had no idea it was going to be this long. I have to make a six hour drive tomorrow...
  221. [12:16:17 AM] CrownHeiress: That would be brilliant, Race, but also a dick move.
  222. [12:16:28 AM] Precarious: [vote: Sherlockian] because we haven't heard from Woon in a while
  223. [12:16:34 AM] adv0catus: Each subsequent Day will be shorter, so hopefully it won't take too long.
  224. [12:16:47 AM] CrownHeiress: Bandwagoning?
  225. [12:17:07 AM] Precarious: as far as I know, that was the first vote anyone has made for anyone
  226. [12:17:10 AM] aturtledoesbite: Ten minutes. Votes: Sherlockian_4869 - 1 (Precarious)
  227. [12:17:11 AM] adv0catus: Although I agree with Precarious, I'm not going to vote yet for Crown's reasoning.
  228. [12:17:26 AM] adv0catus: Precarious is the first vote of the game.
  229. [12:17:41 AM] CrownHeiress: Isn't he usually?
  230. [12:17:47 AM] adv0catus: Or me.
  231. [12:18:10 AM] Woon1957: Searching for the right tab
  232. [12:18:11 AM] Woon1957: uuuh
  233. [12:18:13 AM] Precarious: actually, I usually like to hold back with my votes to some degree, but there's no possibility of a hammer here, so there's no real value to restraint
  234. [12:18:31 AM] CrownHeiress: Well, what's the risk of voting for Prec?
  235. [12:18:33 AM] adv0catus: Plurality.
  236. [12:18:37 AM] CrownHeiress: I mean, he's really good.
  237. [12:18:50 AM] racefan12: Still, though, you run up against the deadline, so you can't just throw votes around
  238. [12:19:02 AM] adv0catus: ^
  239. [12:19:15 AM] CrownHeiress: No, definitely have to play smart.
  240. [12:19:23 AM] Precarious: we have time now, and there's no risk of accidental lynching, so now is the time to see what happens.
  241. [12:19:23 AM] CrownHeiress: Bleh, it's been so long since I played this.
  242. [12:19:25 AM] racefan12: The risk of voting for Prec is the same as the risk of voting for anyone else--he could be town
  243. [12:19:37 AM] CrownHeiress: He could also be a Mafia.
  244. [12:19:51 AM] CrownHeiress: But the odds are in your point's favor.
  245. [12:19:51 AM] racefan12: Of course
  246. [12:19:57 AM] racefan12: yeah
  247. [12:20:00 AM] Precarious: voting for anyone because they might be a mafia doesn't make sense, since every player is statistically more likely to be town
  248. [12:20:22 AM] Precarious: of course, since we have to lynch, this is essentially an RNG day anyway, but the idea is to vote for who we think is most likely to be mafia, for whatever reason
  249. [12:20:30 AM] RaceBandit: Except in SoC, which... was a balancing failure I gotta admit.
  250. [12:20:40 AM] CrownHeiress: SoC?
  251. [12:20:43 AM] RaceBandit: Storm of Chaos.
  252. [12:20:47 AM] RaceBandit: http://www.kongregate.com/forums/36-forum-games/topics/310549-racebandits-storm-of-chaos
  253. [12:20:51 AM] CrownHeiress: Oooh...
  254. [12:20:58 AM] RaceBandit: Oh sorry we have another game to play right now.
  255. [12:21:08 AM] Precarious: (I'll read that later"
  256. [12:21:11 AM] Precarious: )
  257. [12:21:12 AM] Sherlockian_4869: Right, sorry
  258. [12:21:21 AM] Precarious: Okay, Woon, so where have you been?
  259. [12:21:43 AM] MachuPichu: Apologizing for my own absence. I'm being subsequently distracted by my gf.
  260. [12:21:46 AM] adv0catus: As it stands now, I'm leaning towards policy lynching RB or Woon.
  261. [12:21:47 AM] Sherlockian_4869: too many tabs
  262. [12:22:23 AM] aturtledoesbite: Five minutes. Votes: Unchanged.
  263. [12:22:30 AM] Sherlockian_4869: DL?
  264. [12:22:32 AM] MachuPichu: five? I have 8 by my clock.
  265. [12:22:37 AM] racefan12: I dislike policy lynching in general, but at this point, what else is there to do
  266. [12:22:38 AM] RaceBandit: Somehow, I think Woon and I are ... less likely to be scum because of the inactivity actually :/
  267. [12:22:40 AM] CrownHeiress: I have eight on my clock as well.
  268. [12:22:45 AM] aturtledoesbite: The day started at 11:57 PM. It ends at 12:27 AM.
  269. [12:22:55 AM] MachuPichu: kk
  270. [12:23:01 AM] RaceBandit: Although it might just be the past Resistance games getting to me... Resistance 1, Clockwork Factories, Fort Caspian...
  271. [12:23:02 AM] adv0catus: So, we have 5 minutes.
  272. [12:23:02 AM] CrownHeiress: Hm.
  273. [12:23:06 AM] Sherlockian_4869: are you buddying or something?
  274. [12:23:20 AM] RaceBandit: Although she probably should say SOMETHING.
  275. [12:23:26 AM] Precarious: if there's a tie, is it RNG-broken, or the first person voted for? (reply)
  276. [12:23:34 AM] CrownHeiress: Buddying?
  277. [12:23:36 AM] To Precarious: RNG-broken, as said above.
  278. [12:23:45 AM] RaceBandit: Referring to scumbuddies.
  279. [12:23:51 AM] RaceBandit: I forgot how exactly it works.
  280. [12:23:58 AM] CrownHeiress: Dude, who invents all of these terms.
  281. [12:24:08 AM] adv0catus: A scum tries to associate themselves with a Townie to look Town themselves.
  282. [12:24:10 AM] Precarious: The idea is that by indirectly defending Woon, you're trying to get Woon on your side
  283. [12:24:19 AM] adv0catus: Eh.
  284. [12:24:23 AM] Precarious: sort of, anyway
  285. [12:24:25 AM] adv0catus: [Vote: Sherlockian]
  286. [12:24:25 AM] CrownHeiress: Me?
  287. [12:24:32 AM] Precarious: I meant Race
  288. [12:24:32 AM] CrownHeiress: I'm a scumbuddy??
  289. [12:24:36 AM] RaceBandit: No. Me.
  290. [12:24:38 AM] racefan12: RaceBandit
  291. [12:24:39 AM] CrownHeiress: Oh...
  292. [12:24:53 AM] Precarious: Oh right, we have both Races in this game. RaceBandit
  293. [12:25:01 AM] RaceBandit: Bandit and Fan.
  294. [12:25:18 AM] Sherlockian_4869: Face.
  295. [12:25:18 AM] Precarious: [/unvote Woon]
  296. [12:25:26 AM] adv0catus: What, why?
  297. [12:25:28 AM] racefan12: This is almost as confusing as being around other Codys
  298. [12:25:35 AM] aturtledoesbite: (hello)
  299. [12:25:40 AM] adv0catus: ^
  300. [12:25:41 AM] SilentSand: back
  301. [12:25:45 AM] racefan12: (Exactly my point)
  302. [12:25:46 AM] CrownHeiress: More terms...
  303. [12:25:49 AM] Precarious: Because I'm not sure whether it's the best option, and it's getting close to the end
  304. [12:25:50 AM] SilentSand: You think you have a problem with names, race?
  305. [12:25:52 AM] MachuPichu: is SS in this?
  306. [12:25:52 AM] SilentSand: Try Michael.
  307. [12:25:58 AM] SilentSand: Yeah, I'm in this.
  308. [12:26:16 AM] racefan12: What other option is better?
  309. [12:26:23 AM] Precarious: So, we have to lynch someone. Does anyone have an argument to be made for anyone?
  310. [12:26:24 AM] adv0catus: Woon is barely active and when she is, she's not contributing anything at all.
  311. [12:26:48 AM] RaceBandit: I have no idea. My scumdar ****ing sucks.
  312. [12:26:48 AM] MachuPichu: There really is no argument right now. All activities are both equally suspicious and innocent.
  313. [12:26:53 AM] SilentSand: The only other option we have is to lynch somebody else.
  314. [12:26:59 AM] Sherlockian_4869: [Vote: RaceBandit]
  315. [12:27:02 AM] aturtledoesbite: The day is over. Please stop posting.
  316. [12:27:02 AM] MachuPichu: [vote: woon] Just to get the game going I guess.
  317. [12:27:07 AM] MachuPichu: ****ing ninja
  318. [12:27:12 AM] racefan12: wow
  319. [12:27:16 AM] adv0catus: (lol.)
  320. [12:27:25 AM] Sherlockian_4869: :3 (reply)
  321. [12:27:30 AM] aturtledoesbite: RaceBandit is lynched. He was the Investigator.
  322. [12:27:36 AM] Sherlockian_4869: ****
  323. [12:27:38 AM] CrownHeiress: Time stamps says it was at 12:26
  324. [12:27:44 AM] CrownHeiress: It should still count.
  325. [12:27:54 AM] aturtledoesbite: Crown, timestamps go off of your computer's clock.
  326. [12:28:01 AM] racefan12: Day ends when Turtle says it ends
  327. [12:28:14 AM] racefan12: Also, that
  328. [12:28:14 AM] Precarious: He could have provided a 1-minute warning
  329. [12:28:20 AM] MachuPichu: It's not worth drama. I got ninja'd.
  330. [12:28:28 AM] aturtledoesbite: In any case, it is now Night. Everyone please stop posting. If you have a night action, send it in. (And Prec is right, I could have. I will in the future.)
  331. [12:29:11 AM] To adv0catus: I don't care which of you sends in the nightkill.
  332. [12:29:11 AM] SilentSand: protect prec (reply)
  333. [12:29:23 AM] adv0catus: Crown will send it in. (reply)
  334. [12:29:27 AM] CrownHeiress: Kill MachuPichu. (reply)
  335. [12:29:43 AM] racefan12: As much as I would like to use my ability on Prec... I'm not going to kill anyone, and I'm going to hope that I somehow don't die. (reply)
  336. [12:29:55 AM] To CrownHeiress: And a roleblock?
  337. [12:30:10 AM] CrownHeiress: Precarious. (reply)
  338. [12:30:41 AM] aturtledoesbite: Night is over. Continue not posting until I give a day time limit.
  339. [12:31:04 AM] To Precarious: You have been roleblocked. If you are lynched today, no one will blow up.
  340. [12:31:30 AM] Precarious: Am I allowed to say that, if I should choose to? (reply)
  341. [12:32:01 AM] aturtledoesbite: The sun rises, and all seven of you find Pichu's dead body. Including, it would seem, Pichu itself. His ghost remains, able to speak. Not that he can enforce his vote anymore.
  342. [12:32:15 AM] To Precarious: That is your prerogative.
  343. [12:32:23 AM] MachuPichu: jerks.
  344. [12:32:35 AM] adv0catus: Y'know how it's Day - Twilight - Night? It should be Night - Dusk - Day. :3
  345. [12:32:40 AM] adv0catus: So, one kill.
  346. [12:32:50 AM] aturtledoesbite: It is now Day 2. You have 25-ish minutes, until XX:58.
  347. [12:32:52 AM] Sherlockian_4869: Anyway anyway to elaborate my vote counts a little more than others
  348. [12:32:58 AM] adv0catus: Doesn't exclude a third party, just reinforces the Survivor.
  349. [12:33:07 AM] aturtledoesbite: Players: adv0catus, Precarious, MachuPichu, racefan12, CrownHeiress, Sherlockian_4869, SilentSand
  350. [12:33:27 AM] aturtledoesbite: (Note: you can't re-kill Pichu.)
  351. [12:33:28 AM] Precarious: There was more than one kill in terms of night actions. I was roleblocked--explicitly, by which I mean turtle told me I was roleblocked
  352. [12:33:54 AM] racefan12: ...Are you saying you had a kill?
  353. [12:34:03 AM] CrownHeiress: Or he tried to save someone.
  354. [12:34:24 AM] Precarious: I'm saying neither. What I am saying, is that there was at least one other explicitly active night action.
  355. [12:34:48 AM] adv0catus: Why are you likening it to a kill? >_>
  356. [12:34:56 AM] racefan12: ^
  357. [12:34:58 AM] Sherlockian_4869: What are you trying to say :<?
  358. [12:35:02 AM] Precarious: Poor word choice I guess
  359. [12:35:19 AM] adv0catus: I find that a bit hard to believe, coming from you.
  360. [12:35:25 AM] racefan12: Well, in any event, Prec claimed to have a night action
  361. [12:35:48 AM] SilentSand: Prec did?
  362. [12:35:58 AM] CrownHeiress: Yes.
  363. [12:35:58 AM] Precarious: For the moment, I'm not going to confirm or deny that.
  364. [12:36:03 AM] SilentSand: I thought Prec just got a roleblocked notification.
  365. [12:36:07 AM] Precarious: I did.
  366. [12:36:08 AM] adv0catus: I don't think he did.
  367. [12:36:14 AM] SilentSand: That's neither a yes or no.
  368. [12:36:15 AM] adv0catus: He's just confirming that there's a roleblocker out there.
  369. [12:36:22 AM] adv0catus: Well, saying there's one - it's not confirmed, yet.
  370. [12:36:23 AM] CrownHeiress: Why would you get a roleblock notification if it doesn't apply to ou?
  371. [12:36:27 AM] CrownHeiress: * you?
  372. [12:36:31 AM] racefan12: Why would he get a roleblock notification if he didn't attempt to use an action
  373. [12:36:31 AM] CrownHeiress: Seems a bit redundant.
  374. [12:36:36 AM] SilentSand: Because you were still roleblocked.
  375. [12:36:38 AM] racefan12: Yeah
  376. [12:36:38 AM] Sherlockian_4869: Stop being confusing
  377. [12:36:44 AM] racefan12: ^
  378. [12:36:57 AM] adv0catus: The argument can be made either way.
  379. [12:37:26 AM] CrownHeiress: True.
  380. [12:37:41 AM] racefan12: I mean, I wouldn't want to reveal the presence of a roleblocker unless it was necessary to do so, but I guess that's just a mod choice
  381. [12:37:47 AM] RaceBandit: (signing off. goodnight.)
  382. [12:37:52 AM] racefan12: night
  383. [12:37:55 AM] SilentSand: Anyways, was that "Vote counts a little bit extra" a joke, woon?
  384. [12:38:03 AM] adv0catus: (Bye.)
  385. [12:38:14 AM] Precarious: ('night)
  386. [12:38:19 AM] Sherlockian_4869: Why would it? Race was lynched and I was the only voter.
  387. [12:38:31 AM] Precarious: we also know that ties are RNG-broken
  388. [12:38:38 AM] racefan12: Yeah
  389. [12:38:38 AM] adv0catus: It was tied between you and RB.
  390. [12:38:57 AM] Sherlockian_4869: I break the RNG
  391. [12:39:03 AM] racefan12: Though I must point out that turtle didn't say he used RNG...
  392. [12:39:05 AM] MachuPichu: You weren't the only voter. adv0 voted
  393. [12:39:09 AM] MachuPichu: Unless he unvoted and I didn't see it.
  394. [12:39:15 AM] adv0catus: I didn't unvote.
  395. [12:39:30 AM] MachuPichu: And adv0 also voted first. Perhaps a double vote is in play?
  396. [12:39:33 AM] adv0catus: atdb: do you use a RNG to break a tie?
  397. [12:39:48 AM] Precarious: It was 1-1 as far as we know. Either Woon is telling the truth and has a doublevote or something similar, or it was RNG-broken and came up against Bandit
  398. [12:39:49 AM] SilentSand: That's what I saw woon as claiming, machu
  399. [12:40:14 AM] adv0catus: Either Woon is lucky and the RNG sided with her or she has a double vote and there wasn't a tie.
  400. [12:40:16 AM] racefan12: He said he uses RNG to break ties. He didn't say he used RNG for that particular lynch, is my point. So maybe it wasn't a tie.
  401. [12:40:16 AM] Sherlockian_4869: no reason I would lie, I wasn't aware of the RNG
  402. [12:40:33 AM] adv0catus: The only real way to tell is for her to vote for someone and then we get a vote count.
  403. [12:40:43 AM] Sherlockian_4869: I never said I had a doublevote
  404. [12:40:51 AM] racefan12: Unless it doesn't show up in a votecount
  405. [12:40:54 AM] adv0catus: It's implied.
  406. [12:41:00 AM] Sherlockian_4869: well ignore the implication
  407. [12:41:08 AM] adv0catus: Enlighten us, then?
  408. [12:41:12 AM] Sherlockian_4869: Tiebreaker
  409. [12:41:20 AM] racefan12: I mean, Woon could be telling the truth, and she just has one vote, unless there's a tie and then whoever Woon voted for (if anyone) is lynched
  410. [12:41:21 AM] adv0catus: Ah, ok.
  411. [12:42:11 AM] racefan12: In which case... I'd say that's more likely to be a Town role, but in a game like this, I'm hesitant to say anything
  412. [12:42:25 AM] CrownHeiress: Could be given the Vigilante role.
  413. [12:42:34 AM] adv0catus: Alright, so our Cop (Bandit) is dead, we have an rb with an unknown alignment, Woon breaks ties and Precarious may have a night action.
  414. [12:42:46 AM] racefan12: We don't know that there's a Vig
  415. [12:42:59 AM] adv0catus: There was only one kill.
  416. [12:43:03 AM] adv0catus: Unless there's a one-shot.
  417. [12:43:05 AM] CrownHeiress: I thought the 5-2-1 was the most likely...
  418. [12:43:11 AM] CrownHeiress: Plus there was role bock.
  419. [12:43:12 AM] SilentSand: Vig might have chosen to not act for now.
  420. [12:43:14 AM] CrownHeiress: * block.
  421. [12:43:30 AM] SilentSand: I mean, going from 5-2-1 to 2-2-1 would have been god awful
  422. [12:43:32 AM] MachuPichu: And Machu is a spooky ghosty.
  423. [12:43:44 AM] racefan12: ^@ss
  424. [12:43:46 AM] CrownHeiress: Yeah, what's up with that.
  425. [12:43:51 AM] racefan12: Wait, Machu can still talk?
  426. [12:43:55 AM] MachuPichu: Yes.
  427. [12:43:56 AM] adv0catus: Forgot about you, but you're not really in play since you can't vote.
  428. [12:43:57 AM] Precarious: That's his ability
  429. [12:43:58 AM] CrownHeiress: Can you still vote?
  430. [12:44:00 AM] MachuPichu: No.
  431. [12:44:07 AM] CrownHeiress: Huh.
  432. [12:44:13 AM] MachuPichu: So basically I'm an annoying voice in everyone's head that will try to be logical.
  433. [12:44:14 AM] racefan12: He can't vote, but he can still participate in discussion
  434. [12:44:18 AM] racefan12: That's useful
  435. [12:44:19 AM] CrownHeiress: I suppose that would cause trouble at the polling booth...
  436. [12:44:20 AM] SilentSand: Well, all of Machu's opinions are town opinions.
  437. [12:44:24 AM] MachuPichu: ^
  438. [12:44:27 AM] SilentSand: Machu IS town, right?
  439. [12:44:29 AM] adv0catus: Not necessarily.
  440. [12:44:32 AM] racefan12: ^
  441. [12:44:37 AM] adv0catus: Yeah, he's not really confirmed.
  442. [12:44:48 AM] racefan12: He was killed, so role not revealed
  443. [12:45:00 AM] Precarious: A mafia ghost would be very bastard, and it would also suggest that there's a town-aligned killing player
  444. [12:45:06 AM] adv0catus: Role was revealed, but not alignment.
  445. [12:45:16 AM] Precarious: So I think Machu is highly likely to be town
  446. [12:45:23 AM] adv0catus: Precarious, or two one-player Mafias.
  447. [12:45:43 AM] adv0catus: Yeah, it makes sense for MP to be Town - I wasn't disputing that - it's just bad to assume he is.
  448. [12:45:55 AM] Precarious: fair enough
  449. [12:46:01 AM] CrownHeiress: One player Mafias? You mean they're separate and don't contact?
  450. [12:46:12 AM] CrownHeiress: * contact one another?
  451. [12:46:15 AM] Precarious: That's the idea
  452. [12:46:19 AM] Precarious: When does the day end?
  453. [12:46:24 AM] racefan12: Two mafia groups would mean two kills, though
  454. [12:46:28 AM] CrownHeiress: 11 minutes.
  455. [12:46:28 AM] adv0catus: It's possible and one with held a kill for some reason, or it's Precarious.
  456. [12:46:42 AM] Kadleon: (damn you xx:00 timezones, damn you)
  457. [12:46:51 AM] Sherlockian_4869: What's DL?
  458. [12:47:03 AM] racefan12: Yeah, but we've already discussed how multiple kills seems unlikely
  459. [12:47:25 AM] adv0catus: I know.
  460. [12:47:38 AM] racefan12: aturtledoesbite: It is now Day 2. You have 25-ish minutes, until XX:58.
  461. [12:47:38 AM] CrownHeiress: Even with the role block?
  462. [12:47:45 AM] adv0catus: My scenario was far-fetched (intentionally) but just explaining how MP isn't 100% guaranteed Town.
  463. [12:48:01 AM] racefan12: Role block could have blocked something besides a kill, or nothing at all, as discussed
  464. [12:48:07 AM] Precarious: So, question for everyone: this is a closed game, and there's no way to confirm claims. The (presumed) cop is dead. What are the pros and cons to roleclaiming?
  465. [12:48:31 AM] Sherlockian_4869: meh I already did
  466. [12:48:44 AM] Precarious: I mean for other people\
  467. [12:48:47 AM] MachuPichu: con#1 mafia could lie.
  468. [12:49:05 AM] Sherlockian_4869: would*
  469. [12:49:18 AM] adv0catus: Well, it's a one-time deal to try and catch scum. But once the initial claims are over, they're back under the radar and know everyone's role.
  470. [12:49:23 AM] CrownHeiress: I don't mind roleclaiming.
  471. [12:49:27 AM] CrownHeiress: Nothing to hid.
  472. [12:49:29 AM] CrownHeiress: * hide.
  473. [12:49:38 AM] SilentSand: If we did roleclaim.
  474. [12:49:39 AM] racefan12: Yeah, they would lie, but they'd have to claim Vanilla, otherwise they'd risk a counterclaim
  475. [12:49:47 AM] SilentSand: I'd like to know what everyone did last night.
  476. [12:49:55 AM] MachuPichu: I died.
  477. [12:50:02 AM] adv0catus: You don't think there's any Vanilla?
  478. [12:50:05 AM] SilentSand: I believe that.
  479. [12:50:05 AM] CrownHeiress: So we don't claim sides but do claim abilities?
  480. [12:50:07 AM] Precarious: The issue is more what adv0 said, I think. It would provide the mafia a guide on who to target. At the same time, it helps frame the game
  481. [12:50:12 AM] Sherlockian_4869: finished my origami TARDIS and went to sleep.
  482. [12:50:21 AM] SilentSand: If woon has a vote ability, I doubt vanilla.
  483. [12:50:22 AM] Precarious: So I wanted to hear opinions on if it would be worth it.
  484. [12:50:34 AM] adv0catus: I don't think just yet.
  485. [12:50:48 AM] racefan12: There's probably multiple Vanilla, adv0. So multiple vanilla roleclaims wouldn't be suspicious, like it would if there were multiple (say) Doctor claims
  486. [12:51:00 AM] adv0catus: Obviously.
  487. [12:51:06 AM] Precarious: I ask because it's presumably 4-2 or 3-2-1. In which case, a mislynch presumably ends the game.
  488. [12:51:25 AM] adv0catus: The way you worded it, it made it seem like you were saying there's no Vanilla, so someone claiming it is scum to try to avoid role claiming.
  489. [12:51:50 AM] racefan12: I meant that they would claim mafia because it can't really be countered
  490. [12:51:56 AM] racefan12: vanilla*
  491. [12:52:08 AM] adv0catus: Gotcha.
  492. [12:52:09 AM] aturtledoesbite: Sorry, was AFK. RaceBandit was Town.
  493. [12:52:09 AM] racefan12: I hate thinking late at night
  494. [12:52:13 AM] Precarious: If we're in lylo/milo, I see no real reason to hold back, unless we think it will worsen the situation
  495. [12:52:34 AM] racefan12: I
  496. [12:52:35 AM] racefan12: I
  497. [12:52:38 AM] racefan12: ...
  498. [12:52:40 AM] Precarious: ?
  499. [12:52:40 AM] adv0catus: Well, Precarious, do you think roleclaiming will get us all the scum at once?
  500. [12:52:46 AM] racefan12: I'm just a natually cautious person
  501. [12:52:57 AM] adv0catus: Otherwise, if we don't get them all, we've handed the remaining the game on a silver platter.
  502. [12:53:15 AM] SilentSand: Prec is worried that if we don't, they have the game anyways.
  503. [12:53:17 AM] Precarious: I disagree with that logic personally. I feel that claims provide a basis for analysis
  504. [12:53:26 AM] Precarious: And what Silent said
  505. [12:54:00 AM] Precarious: The thing is, we can't be sure we're in lylo/milo because it's a closed setting, but I think it's likely
  506. [12:54:12 AM] aturtledoesbite: Oh, sorry. 4 minutes left. Votes: haha what is a vote
  507. [12:54:26 AM] CrownHeiress: We do need to vote.
  508. [12:54:30 AM] Precarious: how do i cast ballot
  509. [12:54:36 AM] CrownHeiress: Brackets?
  510. [12:54:38 AM] Sherlockian_4869: Cross out the player
  511. [12:54:38 AM] adv0catus: If you guys think it's worth the risk and the net benefit is in the Town's favour, then I'll support it.
  512. [12:54:43 AM] Precarious: it was a joke
  513. [12:54:48 AM] CrownHeiress: Oh.
  514. [12:54:50 AM] racefan12: Is this back to the Florida hanging chad thing?
  515. [12:54:52 AM] Precarious: on a serious note, I do think we should roleclaim
  516. [12:55:00 AM] CrownHeiress: I'll go first.
  517. [12:55:04 AM] Precarious: (it was that combined with how do i shot web)
  518. [12:55:10 AM] racefan12: I dislike roleclaiming in general, personally
  519. [12:55:16 AM] CrownHeiress: Then don't.
  520. [12:55:22 AM] CrownHeiress: But it's suspicious.
  521. [12:55:28 AM] MachuPichu: I want to know Woon's role.
  522. [12:55:37 AM] adv0catus: She is the Tie Breaker.
  523. [12:55:37 AM] SilentSand: Crown, if you want to reveal, reveal.
  524. [12:55:42 AM] Precarious: You know what, we're running short on time, I'm claiming
  525. [12:55:44 AM] Sherlockian_4869: POTUS
  526. [12:55:49 AM] CrownHeiress: I was the role blocker.
  527. [12:55:52 AM] CrownHeiress: Sorry Prec. :/
  528. [12:55:53 AM] adv0catus: The reason I pointed out racefan's comment is because I'm Vanilla.
  529. [12:56:00 AM] racefan12: "Was"?
  530. [12:56:06 AM] CrownHeiress: Well, "am".
  531. [12:56:10 AM] CrownHeiress: It doesn't go away.
  532. [12:56:11 AM] racefan12: Oh
  533. [12:56:13 AM] Precarious: Bomb: if I'm lynched, the last voter dies. Except not today, because my explosiveness is roleblocked
  534. [12:56:21 AM] Precarious: And yes, it's Bomb, not VT or Supersaint
  535. [12:56:32 AM] racefan12: ...Roleblock affected the day after?
  536. [12:56:39 AM] adv0catus: Weird.
  537. [12:56:44 AM] Precarious: so I was told by turtle
  538. [12:56:46 AM] SilentSand: Any other claims?
  539. [12:56:57 AM] SilentSand: If woon serious claimed
  540. [12:57:00 AM] SilentSand: 3/6 claims
  541. [12:57:00 AM] aturtledoesbite: 60 seconds.
  542. [12:57:08 AM] SilentSand: I'm claiming doctor.
  543. [12:57:08 AM] Precarious: are we allowed to vote extension?
  544. [12:57:11 AM] adv0catus: No.
  545. [12:57:12 AM] CrownHeiress: No
  546. [12:57:20 AM] aturtledoesbite: you guys have had twenty-five minutes
  547. [12:57:23 AM] Precarious: [vote adv0catus] because I'm skeptical of a vanilla claim
  548. [12:57:29 AM] racefan12: I mean, we could just go Survivor purple rock mode
  549. [12:57:30 AM] CrownHeiress: Wait, seriouly?
  550. [12:57:30 AM] adv0catus: [Vote: Precarious]
  551. [12:57:30 AM] racefan12: Or that
  552. [12:57:33 AM] CrownHeiress: * seriously
  553. [12:57:35 AM] Sherlockian_4869: [Vote: adv0]
  554. [12:57:36 AM] racefan12: Or that...
  555. [12:57:40 AM] adv0catus: Okay.
  556. [12:57:43 AM] CrownHeiress: You just extend it for another 25??
  557. [12:57:51 AM] adv0catus: No.
  558. [12:58:02 AM] CrownHeiress: Oh, mis-read.
  559. [12:58:03 AM] aturtledoesbite: And the day is over. Stop posting.
  560. [12:58:03 AM] CrownHeiress: Sorry.
  561. [12:58:16 AM] Kadleon: (He's saying you guys have had 25 minutes. You won't be getting an extension probably)
  562. [12:58:35 AM] aturtledoesbite: adv0catus is lynched. He was a mafia scumbag. And yes, what Kad said.
  563. [12:58:50 AM] aturtledoesbite: It is now Night. Send in your actions if you have them.
  564. [12:58:57 AM] SilentSand: protect myself (reply)
  565. [12:59:01 AM] To CrownHeiress: You may still talk with adv0 if you like.
  566. [12:59:07 AM] CrownHeiress: Thanks. (reply)
  567. [12:59:08 AM] To adv0catus: You may still talk with Crown if you like.
  568. [12:59:15 AM] adv0catus: Oh, ok. (reply)
  569. [01:00:09 AM] racefan12: I believe Woon because that role isn't something you make up, I believe Prec with my fingers crossed, I believe Crown because no counterclaim, so... I'll Vig SilentSand and pray (reply)
  570. [01:01:05 AM] CrownHeiress: Kill Sherlockian, no roleblock. (reply)
  571. [01:01:39 AM] aturtledoesbite: The sun rises. Sherlockian_4869 is found dead.
  572. [01:01:57 AM] aturtledoesbite: It is now Day 3. You have 20 minutes, with the day ending at XX:22.
  573. [01:02:12 AM] SilentSand: Current claims
  574. [01:02:16 AM] SilentSand: Prec: bomb
  575. [01:02:21 AM] SilentSand: Crown: RB
  576. [01:02:24 AM] To CrownHeiress: Woon was as she said, a role I labeled "President".
  577. [01:02:25 AM] SilentSand: Sand: Doctor
  578. [01:02:32 AM] SilentSand: Race is left to claim.
  579. [01:02:34 AM] racefan12: 4 players left, one mafia confirmed dead.
  580. [01:02:48 AM] SilentSand: Prec confirms Crown's ability
  581. [01:02:52 AM] aturtledoesbite: Players: Precarious, (MachuPichu), racefan12, CrownHeiress, Sherlockian_4869, SilentSand
  582. [01:02:57 AM] aturtledoesbite: wait no
  583. [01:03:06 AM] racefan12: woon is dead
  584. [01:03:06 AM] aturtledoesbite: Players: Precarious, (MachuPichu), racefan12, CrownHeiress, SilentSand
  585. [01:03:15 AM] CrownHeiress: Well, I did own up to it, and as an act of good faith, I didn't role block anyone.
  586. [01:03:18 AM] racefan12: Did you protect anyone, SS?
  587. [01:03:20 AM] MachuPichu: Sand why didn't you protect me. :(
  588. [01:03:27 AM] SilentSand: I protected Prec N1
  589. [01:03:39 AM] MachuPichu: probably for the better.
  590. [01:03:43 AM] racefan12: And N2?
  591. [01:03:46 AM] CrownHeiress: Makes sense.
  592. [01:03:47 AM] SilentSand: Myself.
  593. [01:04:19 AM] Precarious: Okay, I have a sort of plan
  594. [01:04:27 AM] racefan12: Makes sense... I claim Vig, trying to kill Sand last night because I believed everyone else. So someone's lying.
  595. [01:04:42 AM] Precarious: But it depends on racefan claiming, and also on one other thing
  596. [01:04:50 AM] SilentSand: I say it's you, race.
  597. [01:04:54 AM] Precarious: Here's what I think
  598. [01:05:03 AM] Kadleon: Does the ghost affect endgame? (reply)
  599. [01:05:08 AM] racefan12: It's either Prec or Crown, from my point of view
  600. [01:05:11 AM] Precarious: No one counterclaimed Crown as a roleblocker
  601. [01:05:17 AM] racefan12: Yeah
  602. [01:05:20 AM] Kadleon: Like, in case of 2v1 and ghost, would it be considering MyLo or LyLo? (reply)
  603. [01:05:28 AM] Sherlockian_4869: /bah
  604. [01:05:31 AM] Precarious: Unfortunately, that's not proof of alignment
  605. [01:05:45 AM] To Kadleon: Since the ghost cannot vote, it does not play into endgame situations.
  606. [01:05:52 AM] Precarious: Let's assume for a moment Crown is town
  607. [01:05:52 AM] Kadleon: Alright. (reply)
  608. [01:06:07 AM] Precarious: If so, from my perspective either race or Sand is mafia
  609. [01:06:31 AM] Precarious: If we lynched one (incorrectly), Crown could rb the other, and we could lynch that one tomorrow
  610. [01:06:39 AM] Precarious: However, that falls apart if Crown is mafia obviously
  611. [01:06:56 AM] adv0catus: Damnit, I could make an argument for racefan being scum. (reply)
  612. [01:07:05 AM] CrownHeiress: Huh.
  613. [01:07:24 AM] racefan12: ...Mafia roleblocker, really? (reply)
  614. [01:07:24 AM] SilentSand: I find vig unlikely.
  615. [01:07:33 AM] SilentSand: And I'll point out that doctors are a standard.
  616. [01:07:48 AM] Precarious: Okay, well let's build from that. Race, why did you target Sand?
  617. [01:07:51 AM] adv0catus: (Trying... not... to... comment...)
  618. [01:08:18 AM] SilentSand: He explained already.
  619. [01:08:20 AM] racefan12: I believed the claims of Prec, Woon, and Crown, so I targeted Sand
  620. [01:08:30 AM] Precarious: fair enough
  621. [01:08:36 AM] Kadleon: I feel Prec is maf (reply)
  622. [01:08:40 AM] racefan12: Of course, I failed to consider the possibility of Crown being Mafia Roleblocker
  623. [01:08:52 AM] Kadleon: (no spoilers ofc) (reply)
  624. [01:09:08 AM] SilentSand: Actually wait
  625. [01:09:09 AM] SilentSand: Derp
  626. [01:09:13 AM] racefan12: ...Which now seems the most likely scenario to me
  627. [01:09:38 AM] Precarious: I'm trying to figure out if there are any scenarios where we can auto-win
  628. [01:09:44 AM] SilentSand: Race, why did you claim vig when you did?
  629. [01:09:51 AM] SilentSand: You asked for my N2 protect.
  630. [01:10:00 AM] SilentSand: And then claimed kill and role where it worked.
  631. [01:10:06 AM] racefan12: I wanted to see why my kill didn't go through first
  632. [01:10:21 AM] CrownHeiress: But I didn't role block you.
  633. [01:10:26 AM] MachuPichu: So who would want me dead r1 and woon dead r2 but not Prec, who already knocked off one mafia?
  634. [01:10:29 AM] SilentSand: Yeah, but I protected myself.
  635. [01:10:30 AM] racefan12: SS protected himself
  636. [01:10:35 AM] CrownHeiress: Oh yeah.
  637. [01:10:38 AM] SilentSand: Which I think race took and ran with.
  638. [01:10:38 AM] CrownHeiress: Derp, sorry.
  639. [01:10:44 AM] Precarious: Woon also voted for adv0, and because of the vote was essentially confirmed town
  640. [01:11:19 AM] CrownHeiress: Well, there is a notification when you're role is blocked.
  641. [01:11:32 AM] adv0catus: (your*)
  642. [01:11:34 AM] CrownHeiress: If it had been RB, Race would have known.
  643. [01:11:38 AM] CrownHeiress: Yes, your
  644. [01:11:39 AM] CrownHeiress: *.
  645. [01:11:42 AM] racefan12: Right
  646. [01:11:44 AM] CrownHeiress: Sorry, it's hella late.
  647. [01:11:55 AM] CrownHeiress: And I have to drive six hours tomorrow.
  648. [01:11:55 AM] racefan12: I didn't get a notification
  649. [01:12:12 AM] aturtledoesbite: Ten minutes.
  650. [01:12:28 AM] Precarious: I'm pretty sure for obvious reasons you're not going to tell me this, but it can't hurt to ask: can a mafioso use a nightkill and a separate ability on the same night? (reply)
  651. [01:12:45 AM] To Precarious: -_-
  652. [01:12:58 AM] Precarious: pretty please? :P (reply)
  653. [01:13:11 AM] SilentSand: Race, why did you refrain from claiming yesterday?
  654. [01:14:04 AM] racefan12: Just because I don't like claiming in general unless I think it helps the game
  655. [01:14:24 AM] racefan12: But anyway, I see no reason not to [Vote: Crown]
  656. [01:14:40 AM] CrownHeiress: [Vote: Racefan]
  657. [01:14:40 AM] SilentSand: Why are you considering crown as maf?
  658. [01:14:50 AM] CrownHeiress: I'm going with Silent on this.
  659. [01:14:53 AM] Precarious: this is how I see it: the roleblock the survivor guarantees a win unless Crown is the mafia
  660. [01:15:09 AM] CrownHeiress: Well, if we don't kill Race, I'll just role block him.
  661. [01:15:15 AM] CrownHeiress: No qualms after that vote.
  662. [01:15:19 AM] Precarious: so, IF one of race or Sand is the mafia, it doesn't matter which one
  663. [01:15:32 AM] Precarious: Basically, I'm trying to decide if Crown is mafia
  664. [01:15:47 AM] SilentSand: Here's my breakdown, feel free to comment
  665. [01:15:47 AM] racefan12: Yeah, that's basically the game in a nutshell
  666. [01:16:06 AM] SilentSand: Prec is likely town because he bothered to initiate a vote on another scum.
  667. [01:16:18 AM] Precarious: Roleblocker is a fairly common mafia role. Moreover, the no-roleblock last night could have been because she had to use her kill and couldn't use both
  668. [01:16:35 AM] Precarious: BUT, she claimed it without prompting, which confirmed what I said
  669. [01:16:36 AM] SilentSand: Crown is a roleblocker of unknown alignment, but same as what prec said, prec ninjad me.
  670. [01:16:37 AM] racefan12: Right
  671. [01:16:46 AM] SilentSand: Race claimed vig when it was easy, and not before.
  672. [01:17:02 AM] SilentSand: Crown wanted the roleclaim.
  673. [01:17:15 AM] SilentSand: Possibly to make sure things were cleared up with the block.
  674. [01:17:15 AM] CrownHeiress: I think it made sense.
  675. [01:17:26 AM] SilentSand: Possibly wanted to use it as a reason to be thought town.
  676. [01:17:27 AM] CrownHeiress: Plus, Prec's a smart cookie.
  677. [01:18:15 AM] aturtledoesbite: 4 minutes. Votes: racefan12 - 1 (Crown), CrownHeiress - 1 (race)
  678. [01:18:29 AM] SilentSand: So wait
  679. [01:18:32 AM] SilentSand: Is scumbag a role?
  680. [01:18:41 AM] Sherlockian_4869: (lol)
  681. [01:19:08 AM] aturtledoesbite: ...Are you asking me, Sand?
  682. [01:19:11 AM] SilentSand: Yes.
  683. [01:19:19 AM] SilentSand: Sorry for the lack of formal asking
  684. [01:19:25 AM] aturtledoesbite: "Mafia" is an alignment.
  685. [01:19:53 AM] Precarious: This is how I see it. Mathematically, I'm leaning toward assuming Crown is town, because it gives us a 2-in-3 chance in pure numbers
  686. [01:19:56 AM] SilentSand: If "Mafia scumbag" is only alignment.
  687. [01:20:04 AM] SilentSand: There's no reason for the other maf to have an ability
  688. [01:20:04 AM] racefan12: I think he's asking if "scumbag" is an indicator of anything other than a vanilla mafia
  689. [01:20:07 AM] Precarious: But roleblocker is frequently a mafia role, so pure numbers might not be accurate
  690. [01:20:30 AM] aturtledoesbite: Race, no, adv0 was mafia-flavored ice cream.
  691. [01:20:41 AM] SilentSand: [vote: race]
  692. [01:20:49 AM] racefan12: Why not, SS? There could be a vanilla mafia and a vanilla RB... much more likely than two mafia power roles
  693. [01:20:51 AM] SilentSand: I doubt that crown has a role and is scum then.
  694. [01:20:59 AM] racefan12: Er, mafia rB*
  695. [01:21:07 AM] aturtledoesbite: One minute.
  696. [01:21:20 AM] adv0catus: (urfaic is ice cream.)
  697. [01:21:24 AM] racefan12: Prec, in your hands
  698. [01:21:24 AM] Precarious: I don't know what to do
  699. [01:21:26 AM] SilentSand: I find the two power roles to be the more likely scenario then the one power role.
  700. [01:21:34 AM] Precarious: [vote race] :(
  701. [01:21:39 AM] racefan12: Two mafia power roles is real imbalanced
  702. [01:21:51 AM] Sherlockian_4869: (WALRUS WALRUS WALRUS)
  703. [01:21:59 AM] racefan12: smh
  704. [01:22:01 AM] MachuPichu: clocks ticking down.
  705. [01:22:02 AM] aturtledoesbite: The day is over. Stop postng.
  706. [01:22:03 AM] aturtledoesbite: *posting
  707. [01:22:15 AM] aturtledoesbite: racefan12 is dead. He was the Town Vigilante.
  708. [01:22:28 AM] aturtledoesbite: It is now Night. Send in your action, if you have one.
  709. [01:22:48 AM] CrownHeiress: Is it just three of us left? (reply)
  710. [01:22:50 AM] SilentSand: protect prec (reply)
  711. [01:22:53 AM] To CrownHeiress: Yes.
  712. [01:23:05 AM] CrownHeiress: Kill Silent. Prec left standing will be poetic. (reply)
  713. [01:23:26 AM] aturtledoesbite: The sun rises.
  714. [01:23:37 AM] CrownHeiress: ROLE BLCOK. (reply)
  715. [01:23:40 AM] aturtledoesbite: SilentSand lies dead.
  716. [01:24:13 AM] aturtledoesbite: Precarious is surprised. Before he can turn his gaze to the other living player, CrownHeiress has already stabbed him.
  717. [01:24:20 AM] Precarious: Hold on
  718. [01:24:22 AM] Kadleon: o, gg wp
  719. [01:24:23 AM] aturtledoesbite: Mafia wins.
  720. [01:24:27 AM] Precarious: I didn't reveal my final plan piece
  721. [01:24:29 AM] Precarious: Town wins
  722. [01:24:30 AM] adv0catus: Good game. <3
  723. [01:24:37 AM] Kadleon: /in for next
  724. [01:24:38 AM] Precarious: Watch and learn
  725. [01:24:42 AM] Sherlockian_4869: lal gg crown
  726. [01:24:46 AM] CrownHeiress: Woot woot!
  727. [01:24:49 AM] Precarious: [vote Crown]
  728. [01:24:50 AM] racefan12: ...
  729. [01:24:50 AM] CrownHeiress: Sorry Prec.
  730. [01:24:54 AM] Sherlockian_4869: [Vote: Crown]
  731. [01:24:58 AM] SilentSand: wait
  732. [01:24:59 AM] Kadleon: [Vote: Crown]
  733. [01:25:02 AM] SilentSand: clearly
  734. [01:25:06 AM] SilentSand: the last vote is on prec
  735. [01:25:06 AM] Kadleon: /in for next
  736. [01:25:06 AM] aturtledoesbite: Prec, it doesn't work that way, sorry.
  737. [01:25:09 AM] SilentSand: meaning they both die
  738. [01:25:14 AM] SilentSand: everyone is dead
  739. [01:25:15 AM] Precarious: This is a 1 v 1 where town wins, because if Crown lynches me, I take her with me
  740. [01:25:16 AM] aturtledoesbite: Anyway.
  741. [01:25:17 AM] Kadleon: Nope.
  742. [01:25:17 AM] SilentSand: long live the king
  743. [01:25:21 AM] Kadleon: Precarious was endgamed.
  744. [01:25:28 AM] CrownHeiress: Wah-wah.
  745. [01:25:30 AM] MachuPichu: so Machu's the only one living?
  746. [01:25:31 AM] aturtledoesbite: Final Roles.
  747. [01:25:34 AM] Sherlockian_4869: STALEMATE
  748. [01:25:34 AM] Precarious: :(
  749. [01:25:34 AM] Kadleon: Mafia games would have low mafia wins if it happened that way.
  750. [01:25:36 AM] aturtledoesbite: adv0catus - Mafia, RaceBandit - Investigator, Precarious - Bomb, MachuPichu - Ghost, racefan12 - Vigilante, CrownHeiress - Mafia Roleblocker, Sherlockian_4869 - President, SilentSand - Doctor
  751. [01:25:37 AM] CrownHeiress: No, you're dead, Machu.
  752. [01:25:38 AM] Sherlockian_4869: pls turdle
  753. [01:25:42 AM] MachuPichu: I'm a spooky ghostie.
  754. [01:25:47 AM] Kadleon: /in
  755. [01:25:47 AM] Kadleon: pls
  756. [01:25:50 AM] SilentSand: Eh
  757. [01:25:50 AM] Kadleon: /in for next
  758. [01:25:51 AM] adv0catus: We got lucky with RaceBandit being lynched Day 1.
  759. [01:25:52 AM] Precarious: sorry guys
  760. [01:25:56 AM] Kadleon: pls ;-;
  761. [01:25:57 AM] racefan12: ...Was there a point to Machu being a ghost?
  762. [01:25:57 AM] SilentSand: Admitting my self protect was a bad idea
  763. [01:26:05 AM] Kadleon: I've not chat mafia in literal month
  764. [01:26:13 AM] MachuPichu: It's bedtime for Machu
  765. [01:26:15 AM] aturtledoesbite: (I call Woon's role "President" because that's what I've heard it as. It basically means tiebreaker.)
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