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  7. Channel ID: -66528098
  8. Channel Name: Private Chat (alone)
  9. Listener: Siegfried Cohenberg
  10. Session started: 2015.01.19 08:46:23
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  13. [ 2015.01.19 08:46:28 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > you they cant log off right
  14. [ 2015.01.19 08:46:29 ] Aleisha Britt > sup dude
  15. [ 2015.01.19 08:46:34 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > from the right click menu
  16. [ 2015.01.19 08:46:42 ] Aleisha Britt > i said escape menu
  17. [ 2015.01.19 08:46:47 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > closing the game
  18. [ 2015.01.19 08:46:56 ] Aleisha Britt > and?
  19. [ 2015.01.19 08:46:57 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > are you purposely giving them bad advice
  20. [ 2015.01.19 08:47:03 ] Aleisha Britt > what?
  21. [ 2015.01.19 08:47:06 ] Aleisha Britt > lulz
  22. [ 2015.01.19 08:47:20 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > oh
  23. [ 2015.01.19 08:47:22 ] Aleisha Britt > they disappear from space if unaggressed
  24. [ 2015.01.19 08:47:28 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > yeah IF unaggressed
  25. [ 2015.01.19 08:47:38 ] Aleisha Britt > yeah well you obviously don't have them aggressed
  26. [ 2015.01.19 08:47:44 ] Aleisha Britt > you don't even have any backup
  27. [ 2015.01.19 08:47:52 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > is this d5
  28. [ 2015.01.19 08:47:58 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > does d5 have members in his corp
  29. [ 2015.01.19 08:48:12 ] Aleisha Britt > ask him
  30. [ 2015.01.19 08:48:29 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > so if a freighter jumps into our system
  31. [ 2015.01.19 08:48:32 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > 5b in cargo
  32. [ 2015.01.19 08:48:37 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > im the only one there
  33. [ 2015.01.19 08:48:42 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > would you tell them to log off
  34. [ 2015.01.19 08:49:07 ] Aleisha Britt > if you are bumping them yeah, safe logoff is good it forces you to aggress
  35. [ 2015.01.19 08:49:15 ] Aleisha Britt > or leave
  36. [ 2015.01.19 08:49:21 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > its usnfae
  37. [ 2015.01.19 08:49:22 ] Aleisha Britt > if you aggress it makes it harder for you to gank
  38. [ 2015.01.19 08:49:32 ] Aleisha Britt > since you are on 15 min timer and you need to draw concord away
  39. [ 2015.01.19 08:49:35 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > its an unsafe log off
  40. [ 2015.01.19 08:49:39 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > ok you know we aggress
  41. [ 2015.01.19 08:49:44 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > with 0 sp characters right
  42. [ 2015.01.19 08:49:46 ] Aleisha Britt > plus you don't even know if they started logoff
  43. [ 2015.01.19 08:49:55 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > we do
  44. [ 2015.01.19 08:49:58 ] Aleisha Britt > no you dont
  45. [ 2015.01.19 08:50:10 ] Aleisha Britt > safe logoff doesn't disappear from local
  46. [ 2015.01.19 08:50:20 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > how long have you been playing eve
  47. [ 2015.01.19 08:50:28 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > this conversation is raising a lot of red flags
  48. [ 2015.01.19 08:51:01 ] Aleisha Britt > dude you seemed like less of a dipshit than your buddies
  49. [ 2015.01.19 08:51:17 ] Aleisha Britt > don't become one :)
  50. [ 2015.01.19 08:51:22 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > well
  51. [ 2015.01.19 08:51:25 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > i want to inform you
  52. [ 2015.01.19 08:51:25 ] Aleisha Britt > my advice to you pick a better group of people to play with
  53. [ 2015.01.19 08:51:30 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > hold on
  54. [ 2015.01.19 08:51:37 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > [08:49:46] Aleisha Britt > plus you don't even know if they started logoff
  55. [ 2015.01.19 08:51:41 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > i watchlist everyone i bump
  56. [ 2015.01.19 08:51:46 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > if they log it tells me right away they log
  57. [ 2015.01.19 08:51:52 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > [08:49:32] Aleisha Britt > since you are on 15 min timer and you need to draw concord away
  58. [ 2015.01.19 08:51:58 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > when we aggress and they stay logoffed
  59. [ 2015.01.19 08:52:07 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > they warp 1m km off from their logoff spot
  60. [ 2015.01.19 08:52:11 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > in deadspace surrounded by nothing
  61. [ 2015.01.19 08:52:12 ] Aleisha Britt > you don't know if they STARTED safe logoff dude
  62. [ 2015.01.19 08:52:28 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > you cant safe log if targeted
  63. [ 2015.01.19 08:52:57 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > try it with an alt
  64. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:03 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > start the timer and lock the ship
  65. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:05 ] Aleisha Britt > ok well i didn't know that
  66. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:10 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > now you know
  67. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:18 ] Aleisha Britt > still log off is better than staying in space
  68. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:25 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > it
  69. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:26 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > isnt
  70. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:28 ] Aleisha Britt > because it forces you to engage and 15 min is not enough to form up
  71. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:30 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > we actually get most of our kills
  72. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:35 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > it is
  73. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:41 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > we get most of our kills from log offs
  74. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:47 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > they're easier
  75. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:49 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > they dont move
  76. [ 2015.01.19 08:53:56 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > the pod doesnt move
  77. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:01 ] Aleisha Britt > you need to scan in space and form up
  78. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:09 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > which we have 15m to do
  79. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:14 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > scanning takes less than a minute
  80. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:21 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > and if we need more time you know what we do
  81. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:27 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > we send another aggress alt to aggress him
  82. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:31 ] Aleisha Britt > yeah but you are not even in the system
  83. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:33 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > another 15m timer
  84. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:42 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > the fleet you mean
  85. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:44 ] Aleisha Britt > ah..
  86. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:48 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > we could stage
  87. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:49 ] Aleisha Britt > ok then
  88. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:51 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > 7 jumps out
  89. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:53 ] Aleisha Britt > yeah i see now
  90. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:54 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > and make it in time
  91. [ 2015.01.19 08:54:57 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > if soemone logs off
  92. [ 2015.01.19 08:55:00 ] Aleisha Britt > you can extend the timer i see
  93. [ 2015.01.19 08:55:05 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > even without extending
  94. [ 2015.01.19 08:55:09 ] Aleisha Britt > ok then i'm wrong
  95. [ 2015.01.19 08:55:17 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > has this been educational
  96. [ 2015.01.19 08:55:23 ] Aleisha Britt > yes thanks for the tip
  97. [ 2015.01.19 08:55:34 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > why are you in d5's corp
  98. [ 2015.01.19 08:55:34 ] Aleisha Britt > (your buddies are still dipshits btw :)
  99. [ 2015.01.19 08:55:46 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > ok thats fine
  100. [ 2015.01.19 08:56:26 ] Aleisha Britt > we are friends irl
  101. [ 2015.01.19 08:56:32 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > no way
  102. [ 2015.01.19 08:56:43 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > does he qq about "chode" in real life too
  103. [ 2015.01.19 08:56:43 ] Aleisha Britt > huh?
  104. [ 2015.01.19 08:57:25 ] Aleisha Britt > he's mostly right i think
  105. [ 2015.01.19 08:59:18 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > about
  106. [ 2015.01.19 08:59:36 ] Aleisha Britt > your poor attitude
  107. [ 2015.01.19 09:00:01 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > well we're not canadian
  108. [ 2015.01.19 09:00:08 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > oh sorry lad
  109. [ 2015.01.19 09:00:09 ] Aleisha Britt > i think he takes it a bit too personally but generally he's not wrong
  110. [ 2015.01.19 09:00:12 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > we ganked your freighter
  111. [ 2015.01.19 09:00:23 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > oopsies m8 wont happen again
  112. [ 2015.01.19 09:00:25 ] Aleisha Britt > that's not his message
  113. [ 2015.01.19 09:01:41 ] Aleisha Britt > i tihnk he always said ganking is a fine mechanic but the way code uses it to troll players is poor attitude
  114. [ 2015.01.19 09:02:03 ] Aleisha Britt > it's basically bad for the game
  115. [ 2015.01.19 09:02:17 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > we're actually healthy for the game imo
  116. [ 2015.01.19 09:02:22 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > need villians
  117. [ 2015.01.19 09:02:26 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > to make it interesting
  118. [ 2015.01.19 09:02:29 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > it'd be boring
  119. [ 2015.01.19 09:02:57 ] Aleisha Britt > yeah well your roleplay crosses over into RL abuse
  120. [ 2015.01.19 09:03:04 ] Aleisha Britt > that's super uncool
  121. [ 2015.01.19 09:03:34 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > rl abuse
  122. [ 2015.01.19 09:03:39 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > ehhh
  123. [ 2015.01.19 09:03:47 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > like i would consider rl abuse
  124. [ 2015.01.19 09:03:58 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > like attacking someone's faults in rl
  125. [ 2015.01.19 09:04:09 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > or just being really abusive
  126. [ 2015.01.19 09:05:22 ] Aleisha Britt > my understanding is that you troll people into anger with bonus rooms etc
  127. [ 2015.01.19 09:05:39 ] Aleisha Britt > just ganking their ship is enough
  128. [ 2015.01.19 09:05:43 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > oh
  129. [ 2015.01.19 09:05:45 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > bonus rooms are old
  130. [ 2015.01.19 09:05:49 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > e 1 is gone
  131. [ 2015.01.19 09:05:56 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > there are no bonus rooms anymore
  132. [ 2015.01.19 09:06:00 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > i even thought they went a bit far
  133. [ 2015.01.19 09:06:07 ] Aleisha Britt > i heard a month ago about it actually
  134. [ 2015.01.19 09:06:20 ] Aleisha Britt > in ag channel that you guys still do it
  135. [ 2015.01.19 09:06:32 ] Aleisha Britt > but tbh i think you did tone down
  136. [ 2015.01.19 09:06:33 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > is ag a reliable source
  137. [ 2015.01.19 09:06:36 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > or someone in code
  138. [ 2015.01.19 09:06:36 ] Aleisha Britt > and it's for the better
  139. [ 2015.01.19 09:07:29 ] Aleisha Britt > anyways i never heard you personally troll people
  140. [ 2015.01.19 09:07:39 ] Aleisha Britt > loyal and ac are just jerks
  141. [ 2015.01.19 09:08:15 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > hmmm
  142. [ 2015.01.19 09:08:19 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > like troll how
  143. [ 2015.01.19 09:08:35 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > theres a lot of different ways and methods used in trolling
  144. [ 2015.01.19 09:08:40 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > with varying levels of acceptance
  145. [ 2015.01.19 09:08:59 ] Aleisha Britt > it's a fine line between crossing over from villain roleplay into poor "content"
  146. [ 2015.01.19 09:09:06 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > i dont bother with any roleplay
  147. [ 2015.01.19 09:09:11 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > im more up front
  148. [ 2015.01.19 09:09:21 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > maybe a tiny bit of permit selling
  149. [ 2015.01.19 09:10:27 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > oh
  150. [ 2015.01.19 09:10:30 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > [09:07:29] Aleisha Britt > anyways i never heard you personally troll people
  151. [ 2015.01.19 09:10:32 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > i cant read
  152. [ 2015.01.19 09:10:41 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > yes loyal and the other agents are fine tear collectors
  153. [ 2015.01.19 09:11:19 ] Aleisha Britt > yeah well i believe even the term "tear collector" is basically bad for the game
  154. [ 2015.01.19 09:11:39 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > the block function exists for a reason
  155. [ 2015.01.19 09:11:55 ] Aleisha Britt > it's the atmosphere you create
  156. [ 2015.01.19 09:12:08 ] Aleisha Britt > people don't want to play with jerks
  157. [ 2015.01.19 09:12:27 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > perhaps you want to say
  158. [ 2015.01.19 09:12:29 ] Aleisha Britt > i'm fairly sure you made many people quit simply because they don't enjoy to be around the likes of you
  159. [ 2015.01.19 09:12:31 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > play in the same game with jerks
  160. [ 2015.01.19 09:12:41 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > i'm pretty sure i've made people uninstall
  161. [ 2015.01.19 09:12:47 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > after losing huge freighter losses
  162. [ 2015.01.19 09:12:48 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > like uh
  163. [ 2015.01.19 09:12:50 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > this guy
  164. [ 2015.01.19 09:12:58 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > Kill: Metuo Dred (Providence)
  165. [ 2015.01.19 09:13:05 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > i dont think hes logged on since
  166. [ 2015.01.19 09:13:24 ] Aleisha Britt > sure i believe it
  167. [ 2015.01.19 09:13:58 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > but thats just rage quitting
  168. [ 2015.01.19 09:14:00 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > like any game
  169. [ 2015.01.19 09:14:06 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > theres going to be winners and losers
  170. [ 2015.01.19 09:14:09 ] Aleisha Britt > well it depends on how you handled it
  171. [ 2015.01.19 09:14:14 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > in any game with 2 teams
  172. [ 2015.01.19 09:14:20 ] Aleisha Britt > sure there will be rage quitters
  173. [ 2015.01.19 09:14:34 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > like someone has to be ganked
  174. [ 2015.01.19 09:14:40 ] Aleisha Britt > but it doesn't help that you basically contact people later and troll them with permits
  175. [ 2015.01.19 09:14:48 ] Aleisha Britt > your permits are not designed for profit, they are designed for trolling
  176. [ 2015.01.19 09:14:54 ] Aleisha Britt > you coulda charged 100m easy
  177. [ 2015.01.19 09:15:08 ] Aleisha Britt > 10m is an obviously small amount that's not even worth the time collecting
  178. [ 2015.01.19 09:15:10 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > well i definitely dont charge 10m for ransoms :^)
  179. [ 2015.01.19 09:15:26 ] Aleisha Britt > so the 10m fee is designed purely for trolling
  180. [ 2015.01.19 09:15:49 ] Aleisha Britt > it basically gives you a reason to troll people by sending them a mail later
  181. [ 2015.01.19 09:16:02 ] Aleisha Britt > dude, not only we ganked you, but we are going to ask you for money
  182. [ 2015.01.19 09:16:08 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > a post gank mail has been around for ages though
  183. [ 2015.01.19 09:16:09 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > even i do that
  184. [ 2015.01.19 09:16:22 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > with nice kills
  185. [ 2015.01.19 09:16:24 ] Aleisha Britt > it's basically designed to outrage people
  186. [ 2015.01.19 09:16:33 ] Aleisha Britt > there's no other purpose to it
  187. [ 2015.01.19 09:16:37 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > well lets go back
  188. [ 2015.01.19 09:16:40 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > to real life sports
  189. [ 2015.01.19 09:16:46 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > you're at a football game
  190. [ 2015.01.19 09:16:48 ] Aleisha Britt > lol
  191. [ 2015.01.19 09:16:57 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > and your home team wins
  192. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:00 ] Aleisha Britt > real life sports has clear rules on unsportsmanlike behavior
  193. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:10 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > theres some opposing team fans right next to you
  194. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:14 ] Aleisha Britt > you get banned for any unsportsmanlike conduct
  195. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:20 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > nono fan to fan interaction
  196. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:21 ] Aleisha Britt > CODE is like nowhere near sportsmanlike conduct
  197. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:25 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > is what im refering to
  198. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:31 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > some real shit talk
  199. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:33 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > going on
  200. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:36 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > with sports fans
  201. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:43 ] Aleisha Britt > fans are too low of a bar to consider
  202. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:44 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > i'd compare post gank mails to that
  203. [ 2015.01.19 09:17:59 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > and people who play a space ship mmo arent
  204. [ 2015.01.19 09:18:03 ] Aleisha Britt > many people avoid sports events simply because of fans
  205. [ 2015.01.19 09:18:18 ] Aleisha Britt > also you are not a fan, you are the team
  206. [ 2015.01.19 09:18:41 ] Aleisha Britt > also your opponents are generally defenseless and beginners
  207. [ 2015.01.19 09:18:51 ] Aleisha Britt > so i think CODE is nowhere near comparison with sports
  208. [ 2015.01.19 09:19:00 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > sports fans
  209. [ 2015.01.19 09:19:02 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > maybe
  210. [ 2015.01.19 09:19:04 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > hmm?
  211. [ 2015.01.19 09:19:16 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > from your point of view
  212. [ 2015.01.19 09:19:29 ] Aleisha Britt > i dont' see the analogy
  213. [ 2015.01.19 09:19:39 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > ok i tried
  214. [ 2015.01.19 09:19:40 ] Aleisha Britt > yeah sports fans say nasty stuff
  215. [ 2015.01.19 09:19:48 ] Aleisha Britt > but you are not a fan, you are a player
  216. [ 2015.01.19 09:20:18 ] Aleisha Britt > plus sports teams grudges are mostly done in good spirit
  217. [ 2015.01.19 09:20:25 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > are they
  218. [ 2015.01.19 09:20:29 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > are ag/code grudges
  219. [ 2015.01.19 09:20:29 ] Aleisha Britt > ie friends poking friends
  220. [ 2015.01.19 09:20:31 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > dont in good sport
  221. [ 2015.01.19 09:20:33 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > done*
  222. [ 2015.01.19 09:20:44 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > like if i went to fanfest
  223. [ 2015.01.19 09:20:53 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > and was like
  224. [ 2015.01.19 09:20:55 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > yo im from code
  225. [ 2015.01.19 09:20:56 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > whats up
  226. [ 2015.01.19 09:21:16 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > people would just chuckle and say
  227. [ 2015.01.19 09:21:22 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > hey you ganked my empty freighter before
  228. [ 2015.01.19 09:21:32 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > ya bugger you
  229. [ 2015.01.19 09:22:12 ] Aleisha Britt > i think it depends on how you handled their gank
  230. [ 2015.01.19 09:22:29 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > and then sent them a tear mail
  231. [ 2015.01.19 09:22:36 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > #rekt
  232. [ 2015.01.19 09:22:42 ] Aleisha Britt > if you sent them lots of nasty mail maybe they won't even say anything to you
  233. [ 2015.01.19 09:23:53 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > but anyway
  234. [ 2015.01.19 09:23:56 ] Aleisha Britt > but yeah in the end i think some people are just more sensitive than others
  235. [ 2015.01.19 09:23:59 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > yeah we do a lot of trash talk
  236. [ 2015.01.19 09:24:07 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > and it makes people upset
  237. [ 2015.01.19 09:24:10 ] Aleisha Britt > some people will get pissed at it others have the thick skin to ignore it
  238. [ 2015.01.19 09:24:50 ] Aleisha Britt > some people even have history of RL abuse/theft from them so they take it personally
  239. [ 2015.01.19 09:25:46 ] Aleisha Britt > i think it's insensitive and poor taste not to recognize that some people are just inherently more sensitive than others and take it seriously and they have serious real pain IRL about their loss :)
  240. [ 2015.01.19 09:25:57 ] Aleisha Britt > as your website clearly shows
  241. [ 2015.01.19 09:26:04 ] Aleisha Britt > so you already know this
  242. [ 2015.01.19 09:26:08 ] Aleisha Britt > yet you continue doing it
  243. [ 2015.01.19 09:26:15 ] Aleisha Britt > that basically to me seems like you enjoy their pain
  244. [ 2015.01.19 09:26:31 ] Aleisha Britt > the pain is real even though it's about "space pixels" and you know it
  245. [ 2015.01.19 09:26:38 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > it is real
  246. [ 2015.01.19 09:26:40 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > people feel bad
  247. [ 2015.01.19 09:26:42 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > after being ganked
  248. [ 2015.01.19 09:26:48 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > and losing rl time invested stuff
  249. [ 2015.01.19 09:27:00 ] Aleisha Britt > so like i said there's a fine line between HTFU and excessive trolling
  250. [ 2015.01.19 09:27:12 ] Aleisha Britt > in my opinion you'd be far better off with a more moderate roleplay
  251. [ 2015.01.19 09:27:45 ] Aleisha Britt > you can continue doing exactly the same thing you do now but stop trolling people and change the tone of your website
  252. [ 2015.01.19 09:28:06 ] Aleisha Britt > and you'll get a whole lot more respect
  253. [ 2015.01.19 09:28:40 ] Aleisha Britt > it's the small things like the language you choose if you make it more lighthearted
  254. [ 2015.01.19 09:29:19 ] Aleisha Britt > [09:26:39] Siegfried Cohenberg > it is real people feel bad after being ganked and losing rl time invested stuff
  255. [ 2015.01.19 09:29:22 ] Aleisha Britt > so you recognize this
  256. [ 2015.01.19 09:29:49 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > yeah i have empathy
  257. [ 2015.01.19 09:30:13 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > but it doesnt stop me
  258. [ 2015.01.19 09:30:24 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > from dunking freighter pilots
  259. [ 2015.01.19 09:30:35 ] Aleisha Britt > that's fine tbh
  260. [ 2015.01.19 09:30:59 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > like uh
  261. [ 2015.01.19 09:31:04 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > when i stole my first freighter
  262. [ 2015.01.19 09:31:07 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > i felt really bad
  263. [ 2015.01.19 09:31:12 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > but it was hilarious that he fell for the scam
  264. [ 2015.01.19 09:32:17 ] Aleisha Britt > well this game allows this
  265. [ 2015.01.19 09:32:37 ] Aleisha Britt > there's a varied amount of follow up trolling you can do
  266. [ 2015.01.19 09:32:46 ] Aleisha Britt > e1 went too far clearly even by ccp's standard
  267. [ 2015.01.19 09:33:13 ] Aleisha Britt > you could be sportsmanlike pirates without trash talk
  268. [ 2015.01.19 09:33:33 ] Aleisha Britt > or change your roleplay into something unoffensive
  269. [ 2015.01.19 09:34:27 ] Aleisha Britt > some people will still take offense just from being ganked even if you don't say anything
  270. [ 2015.01.19 09:34:43 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > i'd rather
  271. [ 2015.01.19 09:34:46 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > offend people still
  272. [ 2015.01.19 09:34:51 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > people need to be offended
  273. [ 2015.01.19 09:34:57 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > dicks are needed in real life
  274. [ 2015.01.19 09:35:02 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > as well as in game
  275. [ 2015.01.19 09:36:31 ] Aleisha Britt > i'm not sure why
  276. [ 2015.01.19 09:36:52 ] Aleisha Britt > there are enough dicks IRL
  277. [ 2015.01.19 09:37:23 ] Aleisha Britt > people could look at EVE as a higher standard rather than a bunch of dicks just like RL
  278. [ 2015.01.19 09:37:38 ] Aleisha Britt > and your alliance has a wide reach
  279. [ 2015.01.19 09:37:51 ] Aleisha Britt > basically most pilots encounter you
  280. [ 2015.01.19 09:38:07 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > ye boi
  281. [ 2015.01.19 09:38:16 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > any highsec bear will get the g someday
  282. [ 2015.01.19 09:38:23 ] Aleisha Britt > and what do they learn? code are dicks :)
  283. [ 2015.01.19 09:38:39 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > no problem with that
  284. [ 2015.01.19 09:39:04 ] Aleisha Britt > i mean if your belief is that EVE needs dicks..
  285. [ 2015.01.19 09:39:15 ] Aleisha Britt > i don't think you have to contribute, there are enough dicks without you :)
  286. [ 2015.01.19 09:39:29 ] Aleisha Britt > you not personally
  287. [ 2015.01.19 09:39:34 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > its just a
  288. [ 2015.01.19 09:39:34 ] Aleisha Britt > but other code members rather
  289. [ 2015.01.19 09:39:37 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > discussion right now anyway
  290. [ 2015.01.19 09:39:41 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > a sharing of opinions
  291. [ 2015.01.19 09:39:46 ] Aleisha Britt > sure
  292. [ 2015.01.19 09:40:33 ] Aleisha Britt > i don't know if you are playing a devil's advocate or actually believe that eve needs evil in a sense that eve needs jerks :)
  293. [ 2015.01.19 09:40:52 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > yeah why not
  294. [ 2015.01.19 09:41:12 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > someone has to be the bad guy
  295. [ 2015.01.19 09:41:16 ] Aleisha Britt > i don't believe it improves players experience
  296. [ 2015.01.19 09:41:17 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > in a sandbox game
  297. [ 2015.01.19 09:41:27 ] Aleisha Britt > you can be enough of a bad guy by destroying their assets
  298. [ 2015.01.19 09:41:36 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > its just text based pvp
  299. [ 2015.01.19 09:41:40 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > and we're really good at it
  300. [ 2015.01.19 09:41:41 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > lol
  301. [ 2015.01.19 09:41:44 ] Aleisha Britt > that's actually healthy for economy otherwise there'd be crazy inflation
  302. [ 2015.01.19 09:42:32 ] Aleisha Britt > or rather asset devaluation
  303. [ 2015.01.19 09:43:08 ] Aleisha Britt > but outside of that i think your contribution is negative
  304. [ 2015.01.19 09:44:57 ] Aleisha Britt > but yeah i guess ccp doesn't ban you so they don't think you cross the line
  305. [ 2015.01.19 09:45:00 ] Aleisha Britt > it's arguable that you don
  306. [ 2015.01.19 09:45:03 ] Aleisha Britt > don't
  307. [ 2015.01.19 09:45:22 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > we're pretty polite in local
  308. [ 2015.01.19 09:45:39 ] Aleisha Britt > well people have different beliefs
  309. [ 2015.01.19 09:45:42 ] Aleisha Britt > very different
  310. [ 2015.01.19 09:45:50 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > like uh
  311. [ 2015.01.19 09:45:56 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > we refrain from using swear words
  312. [ 2015.01.19 09:45:57 ] Aleisha Britt > some people IRL believe that they should blow themselves up for some arbitrary cause
  313. [ 2015.01.19 09:46:06 ] Aleisha Britt > so we are just arguing about arbitrary beliefs
  314. [ 2015.01.19 09:46:42 ] Aleisha Britt > i'm not really sure why i think i might change your opinion when people can be conditioned to even blow themselves up instead of living a full life :)
  315. [ 2015.01.19 09:47:01 ] Aleisha Britt > we are just talking about a set of beliefs about how to play a game
  316. [ 2015.01.19 09:47:27 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > have you tried ganking yet
  317. [ 2015.01.19 09:47:47 ] Aleisha Britt > i'm sure it can be fun but i'd rather do it with a different group of people
  318. [ 2015.01.19 09:48:11 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > you should get d5
  319. [ 2015.01.19 09:48:20 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > make 1 day old alts and gank with us during a freighter fleet
  320. [ 2015.01.19 09:48:31 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > to see how a fleet is
  321. [ 2015.01.19 09:48:39 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > on our side
  322. [ 2015.01.19 09:53:31 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > anyway i think we're
  323. [ 2015.01.19 09:53:40 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > my original point being telling someone to log off is awful advice
  324. [ 2015.01.19 09:53:41 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > o/
  325. [ 2015.01.19 09:53:47 ] Siegfried Cohenberg > we're done*
  326. [ 2015.01.19 09:53:48 ] Aleisha Britt > o/
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