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  1. [ 2015.07.29 01:59:48 ] Evereconata Turmin > hi
  2. [ 2015.07.29 02:00:39 ] Callidus Official > i'm the PR director of The New Imperial Remnant. i'm told you're in contact with a guy called Nubkins Ernaga. can you verify this for me? sorry about the abruptness
  3. [ 2015.07.29 02:01:32 ] Evereconata Turmin > In contact is wrong because I have not had yet opportunity to personally meet them but yes I am going to co-operate with him and his corp if okay with him
  4. [ 2015.07.29 02:02:30 ] Callidus Official > hmmm. am I correct in saying that your corp has been contacted to build ships with him or for him?
  5. [ 2015.07.29 02:02:48 ] Evereconata Turmin > not yet, but that is the plan as far as I understand
  6. [ 2015.07.29 02:02:57 ] Evereconata Turmin > nothing has been agreed on
  7. [ 2015.07.29 02:03:39 ] Callidus Official > i asuume you've only dealt with agents of his?
  8. [ 2015.07.29 02:03:47 ] Evereconata Turmin > indeed
  9. [ 2015.07.29 02:04:22 ] Callidus Official > who exactly?
  10. [ 2015.07.29 02:05:39 ] Evereconata Turmin > do you want to enlighten me on your and your corp role in all this?
  11. [ 2015.07.29 02:07:13 ] Callidus Official > part of the reason for my rudeness so far has been because I'd rather play my cards a little closer to my chest. but I will absolutely tell you that he has also contacted us (through someone else) for a project in wormhole space
  12. [ 2015.07.29 02:08:06 ] Evereconata Turmin > all is cool, i just checked you with those guys.
  13. [ 2015.07.29 02:09:03 ] Evereconata Turmin > as far as i see their plan is solid even if they are a little bit rush rush but I am going eith them... I have been ratting alone in wh space no probs so I have limited experience of whs, (what can you really do alone there?)
  14. [ 2015.07.29 02:09:18 ] Callidus Official > do you trust them?
  15. [ 2015.07.29 02:10:12 ] Evereconata Turmin > i have been in dealings with one of their members and i have no reason to not trust. i loaned him some isk today, if he pay back on friday everything is cool
  16. [ 2015.07.29 02:11:33 ] Callidus Official > here's the thing, and the main reason I contacted you. i'd like to open a diplomatic channel between our two corps, and to ensure that this entire deal goes well for all parties involved. we were "introduced" to nubkins by rather violent means
  17. [ 2015.07.29 02:12:06 ] Evereconata Turmin > which side attacked?
  18. [ 2015.07.29 02:12:28 ] Callidus Official > he sent our leader a message when we were only a few days old stating that we had to pay a sum of 75 mil ISK otherwise he would destroy us. he did so in full knowledge that we didn't have the funds, and that we were new
  19. [ 2015.07.29 02:12:38 ] Callidus Official > we replied to that stating as much
  20. [ 2015.07.29 02:12:45 ] Callidus Official > very friendly given the circumstances
  21. [ 2015.07.29 02:12:56 ] Callidus Official > a day or so later he created a dummy corp and war decced us
  22. [ 2015.07.29 02:13:17 ] Callidus Official > capsuled our members and camped both gates and our home station hard
  23. [ 2015.07.29 02:13:55 ] Evereconata Turmin > for eve this is not new, but what gave the idea for co-operation?
  24. [ 2015.07.29 02:15:14 ] Callidus Official > nothing our side proposed after he told one of our diplomats in touch with him (he was generally rude and blocked all corp leaders including me) that he was bored of attacking us a day or so ago. then he approaches one of our members
  25. [ 2015.07.29 02:15:42 ] Callidus Official > recruits the guy to his corp, gives him a lot of money from what I understand
  26. [ 2015.07.29 02:15:54 ] Evereconata Turmin > was that guy danny?
  27. [ 2015.07.29 02:16:00 ] Callidus Official > that was exactly the guy
  28. [ 2015.07.29 02:17:36 ] Evereconata Turmin > ok, i understand that you have been mishandled, i said they are rush rush like they are hotheaded, how do i know maybe they are 12 year old. whatever they did maybe this their wh operation is still ok, old bored players can do weird things but what i
  29. [ 2015.07.29 02:18:05 ] Evereconata Turmin > have understood about this wh business goes very well with me which is harvest the resources and process them
  30. [ 2015.07.29 02:19:19 ] Callidus Official > perhaps. but he's done this to at least two other corps the same as us. I don't hold grudges, I just have my reservations about certain people's integrity. we're being approached to mine the ores, and give them to nubkins or you to make ships with.
  31. [ 2015.07.29 02:19:25 ] Evereconata Turmin > for to be sure when we go to wh space I suggest your side comes with at least as much firepower(=number of ships in your case) than them and I do promise to defend whoever gets attacked
  32. [ 2015.07.29 02:19:31 ] Evereconata Turmin > IF
  33. [ 2015.07.29 02:20:50 ] Evereconata Turmin > whatever ore/minerals I get from this operation will be used as agreed, i have no prior dealings with either side, I just gave the guy a ship when he had been shot down
  34. [ 2015.07.29 02:21:49 ] Callidus Official > that's very much appreciated. our corp is very very new. we started less than a week ago, and i myself started much the same time. so this is new territory for us and we're being careful not to make any mistakes
  35. [ 2015.07.29 02:22:22 ] Evereconata Turmin > your story matches exactlyu what danny told me about his history here when i talk with him 2 days ago, this is one mroe reason to at least believe in his integrity,,,, however it doesnt prove anything about nubking
  36. [ 2015.07.29 02:22:59 ] Callidus Official > however, I talked to danny only a few hours ago via our TS and he was not well prepared. I asked him what percentage we'd get from the operation, which set him back, and he blurted out a figure of 25%
  37. [ 2015.07.29 02:23:08 ] Callidus Official > i suspect that was made up on the spot
  38. [ 2015.07.29 02:23:24 ] Evereconata Turmin > anyway take cheap ships I think Ventures are pretty cool for first encounter in wh space, good mining ability and small loss of isk
  39. [ 2015.07.29 02:24:00 ] Evereconata Turmin > Look
  40. [ 2015.07.29 02:24:22 ] Evereconata Turmin > at this point its normal that things are unfinished and not all set
  41. [ 2015.07.29 02:24:38 ] Evereconata Turmin > he prolly made it up or they had talked about it. they havent talk about it to me
  42. [ 2015.07.29 02:25:24 ] Evereconata Turmin > forgive the guy for not being maybe really thought out every detaill and not able to say it straight to face, naturally not prepared would give bad image, maybe reason why not say so
  43. [ 2015.07.29 02:26:14 ] Evereconata Turmin > I cant really talk about any kind of % because I do not even know all involved parties or their share of the operation
  44. [ 2015.07.29 02:26:36 ] Callidus Official > well I know for certain that's he's lied about other things to danny before, however I understand your reasoning. i'm told there will be a meeting on TS a few days from know to discuss and finalize details. in regards to other parties,
  45. [ 2015.07.29 02:26:50 ] Callidus Official > i'm told it's just my corp, and 10 other people including nubkins and your corp
  46. [ 2015.07.29 02:26:55 ] Evereconata Turmin > What I do know is that I can process all material we can acquire no matter the means
  47. [ 2015.07.29 02:27:38 ] Callidus Official > i'm aslo told there will be an alliance created
  48. [ 2015.07.29 02:27:56 ] Evereconata Turmin > This was my request
  49. [ 2015.07.29 02:28:08 ] Evereconata Turmin > I do not want to disband my corp for any operation
  50. [ 2015.07.29 02:28:20 ] Evereconata Turmin > so i suggest alliance between corps
  51. [ 2015.07.29 02:29:04 ] Callidus Official > makes sense, no problems here
  52. [ 2015.07.29 02:29:51 ] Evereconata Turmin > how many people from your corp will be actively involved in this, lets say in terms of ships flying together in the mining fleet?
  53. [ 2015.07.29 02:30:42 ] Evereconata Turmin > I will bring 2-4 ships, 2 now and 2 more later
  54. [ 2015.07.29 02:30:50 ] Callidus Official > since the corp is relatively split in half between US and EU, and there's more miners than there are security, I'd say I can muster 10 man fleets at a time, possibly more if I have more time to organize
  55. [ 2015.07.29 02:31:09 ] Evereconata Turmin > do you have booster?
  56. [ 2015.07.29 02:32:18 ] Callidus Official > i'm sorry, I don't actually know what that is?
  57. [ 2015.07.29 02:32:29 ] Evereconata Turmin > command ship to boos mining
  58. [ 2015.07.29 02:32:33 ] Evereconata Turmin > boost
  59. [ 2015.07.29 02:32:47 ] Evereconata Turmin > I am asking because I am 3 weeks from flying Orca
  60. [ 2015.07.29 02:32:52 ] Evereconata Turmin > which is booster ship
  61. [ 2015.07.29 02:33:34 ] Evereconata Turmin > it can effectively double mining yield with right fitting/skills
  62. [ 2015.07.29 02:33:39 ] Callidus Official > ah we might have a guy with an orca soon or already
  63. [ 2015.07.29 02:33:43 ] Callidus Official > but i'm not sure
  64. [ 2015.07.29 02:33:52 ] Callidus Official > i'd say no for now
  65. [ 2015.07.29 02:34:24 ] Evereconata Turmin > I am not actively training for Orca right now but if it is needed I can beging training it
  66. [ 2015.07.29 02:34:30 ] Evereconata Turmin > 21 days
  67. [ 2015.07.29 02:34:51 ] Callidus Official > it would certainly be useful
  68. [ 2015.07.29 02:34:59 ] Evereconata Turmin > It will
  69. [ 2015.07.29 02:35:54 ] Evereconata Turmin > but without fleet for protection I will not fly it in wh space, would fall prey to any mid size pirate fleet
  70. [ 2015.07.29 02:36:42 ] Callidus Official > anyway, it's 4:30 AM for me, so I will let you be. i've added you as contact, hope to talk more tomorrow or another day. and we can assemble some protection consisting of cruisers/battlecruisers/battleships
  71. [ 2015.07.29 02:37:26 ] Callidus Official > o7
  72. [ 2015.07.29 02:37:31 ] Evereconata Turmin > ok, I ah an hor ahead of you,,, also do not bring battleships if pilots have poor skills
  73. [ 2015.07.29 02:37:45 ] Evereconata Turmin > cu, i wish best of luck for this co-op
  74. [ 2015.07.29 02:37:51 ] Callidus Official > same to you!
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