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(Dynasty and Le_Troll were gbl'd for aimbotting while impersonating Kodinski and Korakoff)

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<+_Dynasty> Stack is still away from keyboard?
<@StackOverflow> ?
<+_Dynasty> Oh great, you're here
<+_Dynasty> I'm in need of someone to officiate a ban appeal,
<+_Dynasty> and people told me to contact you.
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<+Le_Troll> Sup
<+_Dynasty> Uhm.. a response would be appreciated..
<@StackOverflow> hold on
<+_Dynasty> Sure.
<+Le_Troll> What is the situation,
<@StackOverflow> so you were using the name "Kodinsky" ?
<+_Dynasty> Yep,
<+_Dynasty> Very stupid of me, shouldn't have been so childish,
<+_Dynasty> The Komrade's conceited behavior got to me, I've taken it too far.
<@StackOverflow> I assume somebody was playing with you as well?
<@StackOverflow> using the name "Korakoff"
<+_Dynasty> I'm unsure, I don't remember very well,
<@StackOverflow> well at the same time you were impersonating kodinsky, somebody in the same game was impersonating korakoff apparently
* @StackOverflow slaps PXYC around a bit with a large trout
<+_Dynasty> Yes that was my doings,
<+_Dynasty> And I apologize for it,
<+_Dynasty> I'm unsure of what else to say..
<+_Dynasty> I can assure you I will never do this again, what I did that day was solely on my observations of the Komrades
<+_Dynasty> I will not cross their paths, or even set my eyes on them after this point on.
* +_Dynasty slaps StackOverflow around a bit with a large fishbot
<@StackOverflow> well the reason you were banned wasn't so much the impersonating
<@StackOverflow> hopefully PXYC is able to shed a bit more light on the situation
<+_Dynasty> Oh, the other reason must've been when I turned on the aimbot for a few minutes,
<+_Dynasty> I hardly used it at all, I thought the banning was mainly the impresonations.
<+_Dynasty> And everyone else on the other team was using it, so I thought "why the hell not."
<@StackOverflow> no, it was the cheating
<+_Dynasty> Oh, well,
<@StackOverflow> I don't care about impersonating much, although it's a pretty silly thing to do in my opinion
<+_Dynasty> Yeah well, I agree with you
<+_Dynasty> and you guys do have my IP, and you can simply just ban me again if you catch me aimbotting..
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<+_Dynasty> and besides, there should be that patch coming up soon, so everyone will be screwed over,
<@StackOverflow> "everyone" being?
<@StackOverflow> those who use the aimbot?
<+_Dynasty> yep.
<+_Dynasty> Sorry, I thought I made that clear,
<+_Dynasty> my mistake.
<@StackOverflow> well it's not like a new one won't be made
<+_Dynasty> Of course, and that's where my IP banning will be taken place, then.
<@StackOverflow> and quite frankly, the only one's who are getting "screwed over" are those who screwed over other players in the first place
<+_Dynasty> Mhm, which is great, serves them right.
<+_Dynasty> As I've mentioned before, I only turned on the hacks because the the majority of the other team was using it,
<+_Dynasty> "quite frankly" I was just making that match fair,
<@StackOverflow> that's a horrible excuse
<+_Dynasty> but alas, hacking is wrong and I do apologize once again.
<@StackOverflow> and I highly doubt half the other team was cheating
<+_Dynasty> Yes, I agree with you completely,
<+_Dynasty> Really? That's suprising,
<+_Dynasty> well, I guess it's my word against yours.
<+Le_Troll> No actually, some servers I've visited had a lot of hackers,
<@StackOverflow> I'll talk with pxyc whenever he returns and see what he thinks. if anything, the ban will be shortened
<@StackOverflow> lots of servers lack ingame admins
<+_Dynasty> haha, shortened from permanent? I'd be happy with that.
<+_Dynasty> Who is PXYC? And why is he significant?
<+_Dynasty> The times when you were AFK, everyone said that you were the top-gun and you had the most authority
<+Le_Troll> ^
<@StackOverflow> well, that's kind of the case. but pxyc is the one who issued your ban. I prefer consulting with those who issued the ban before making a decision
<+_Dynasty> That's interesting, what kind of new information could you expect from pxyc?
<+_Dynasty> Couldn't his words just be as powerful as mine?
<+_Dynasty> Unless he recorded the incident, then I take back my words.
<@StackOverflow> recordings are common, but aren't always performed
<+_Dynasty> Hmm, well,
<+_Dynasty> I'm curious about this "shortened ban"
<+_Dynasty> What would my sentence be reduced down to?
<@StackOverflow> if anything the ban will be reduced to a week or two.
<+_Dynasty> hah, that's better than inifinity, great.
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<+Danko> o_O
<+Danko> what
<+Danko> "oh hey, I was impersonating a dude I don't like AND using an aimbot, can I get my ban shortened?"
<+Pavel_> wat
<+Danko> whatisgoingon
<+USABxBOOYO> 4I don't know
<+Danko> StackOverflow: what is going on?
<@StackOverflow> well I am currently eating crackers
<+_Dynasty> Actually, I wasn't asking for a ban shortening,
<+Danko> I don't get why this dude is getting his ban shortened
<+_Dynasty> I was asking for a ban lifting,
<+Danko> yeah, except you say "it's my word against pxyc's", and your word is <+_Dynasty> Oh, the other reason must've been when I turned on the aimbot for a few minutes,
<+Danko> I don't see what pxyc will say that will make you less guilty than you've already made yourself
<+_Dynasty> Exactly, there's no point in bringing PXYC here,
<+_Dynasty> I've already committed to my sins
<@StackOverflow> well the system is designed that admins who issue bans can lift them as well
<+_Dynasty> and I really hope you guys will give me a second chance.
<+Danko> ... I guess I don't see why the ban would be lifted or shortened
<+_Dynasty> What I did was harmless and I don't plan on ever doing it again,
<@StackOverflow> "harmless"
<@StackOverflow> cheating ruins the game
<+_Dynasty> Yes, did I hurt anyone?
<+_Dynasty> Yes well as I've told you before,
<+Danko> _Dynasty: if we had that attitude, everyone would be unbanned
<+Danko> just about the worst thing you can do in this game is cheat anyway
<+Danko> if that's harmless, then what's the point in banning people
<+_Dynasty> Because you don't know if they'll do it again
<+_Dynasty> and you've got my word that I won't.
<+_Dynasty> and If I do, you guys have my IP
<@StackOverflow> but how do we know it's honest
<+Danko> I ban based on actions, not promises
<@StackOverflow> look at it from both sides
<+Danko> it's especially worrisome that you weren't just aimbotting, you were pretending to be someone else and aimbotting
<+_Dynasty> Ok I see how bad I must look in this situation,
<+Danko> can't really look much worse tbh
<+USABxBOOYO> [20:28] <+_Dynasty> and If I do, you guys have my IP
<+USABxBOOYO> ...
<+Defaulter> well tbh could have been wrose, he could have impersonated sumone with a good reputation
<+_Dynasty> and I am just simply asking for a ban shorten,
<@StackOverflow> lol
<+_Dynasty> Haha.
<+Defaulter> worse*
<+Danko> I propose damnatio memoriae
<+_Dynasty> I don't understand, isn't it easy for you guys to reban me if I do something wrong?
<+Danko> we kill you and erase any trace that you ever existed
<+Danko> problem solved
<@StackOverflow> I just find it odd that at the very same time you were impersonating kodinsky, there was another user impersonat korakoff
<@StackOverflow> both of which were banned for cheating
<@StackOverflow> at the same time
<@StackOverflow> in the same match
<+_Dynasty> Well, I'm unsure of who that is, and I guess that proves that I'm not the only one disliking the Komrades behavior
<+_Dynasty> but setting all that aside, I've told you that I'm not going to cross paths with them
<+_Dynasty> or even acknowledge their presence, I just want to play again.
<+Defaulter> A man's word is only as good as his action's, and your's have proved less the savoury
<@StackOverflow> both from canada
<+Danko> delicious savory actions
<+_Dynasty> Well, I've learned from my mistakes, and if that isn't good enough for you, then I'm sorry you're so pessimistic.
<+_Dynasty> No offense, of course.
<@StackOverflow> I prefer the label "realist"
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<+_Dynasty> I prefer "pessimist"
<+Defaulter> Don't look at me _Dynasty, I have no power over your ban.
<+_Dynasty> To each his own.
<+_Dynasty> Rather than me not looking, why don't you just not provide your opinion?
<+_Dynasty> Why state your opinion if you have no power over my ban?
<+Danko> to help you understand why you are probably not getting unbanned
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<+Defaulter> pretty much what danko said.
<@StackOverflow> well this is a public channel
<+Danko> you did a bad thing, that's the consequence. If we have to unban everyone who says "I'll be good, I swear," the gbl is pretty much pointless
<+_Dynasty> Oh, thank you for doing that, but I didn't ask for that.
<+Le_Troll> Who's we?
<+Defaulter> heh, we don't give what people ask for, we give what we think they need and deserve.
<+Le_Troll> You are not part of this process.
<+_Dynasty> Sorry, I just don't enjoy having 2 people against me at one time,
<+_Dynasty> I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy it either, Danko/Defaulter
<+Defaulter> i've had much worse.
<+Danko> I don't impersonate and aimbot, so I've never had that problem
<+_Dynasty> Ooh, nice one, Danko.
<+_Dynasty> Props for that one, totally unexpected.
<@StackOverflow> _Dynasty, do you know Le_Troll?
<@StackOverflow> or vice versa
<+_Dynasty> You already know the answer.
<+Defaulter> _Dynasty, derp.
<@StackOverflow> ?
<+_Dynasty> -sigh-
<+_Dynasty> Yes, I know Le_Troll
<+Defaulter> how do you know him?
<+_Dynasty> Is it important?
<+Defaulter> yeh
<@StackOverflow> Le_Troll = korakoff impersonator
<@StackOverflow> way to go
<+Le_Troll> Oh snap,
<@StackOverflow> "you have my word"
<+Defaulter> _Dynasty, IS he your lil bro by chance?
<@StackOverflow> lol
<+_Dynasty> No, we have different IP addresses,
<+Le_Troll> ^
<+Defaulter> DO YOU?
<+_Dynasty> Unless you live away from your lil brother, Defaulter,
<+Defaulter> StackOverflow, I like this guy.
<+_Dynasty> I said you have my word on never impersonating and hacking again,
<@StackOverflow> but...but...
<+_Dynasty> what does that have anything to do with me knowing Le_Troll?
<@StackOverflow> your word is worthless :(
<+Danko> lol
<+Defaulter> oh zing
<+Defaulter> _Dynasty, so. how fo you know Le_Troll?
<+Defaulter> do*
<+Defaulter> what is he to you?
<@StackOverflow> you said you didn't know who was impersonating korakoff
<+_Dynasty> Defaulter are you by any chance a gamemaster or moderator of some sort?
<@StackOverflow> yet you were both banned
<@StackOverflow> and you are both here
<@StackOverflow> and you know each other
<+Defaulter> _Dynasty, no but the Q's im asking will heavily effect the outcome
<+Defaulter> as StackOverflow is proving
<+Danko> but they didn't know that they were both impersonating and aimbotting on the same server
<+_Dynasty> Sorry Defaulter, but if you aren't a moderator or gamemaster I have no obligation to answer you.
<@StackOverflow> I think it's pretty clear what the outcome of this will be
<+Defaulter> StackOverflow, i really like this guy.
<+Danko> unbans for everyone!
<+Danko> duh
<+USABxBOOYO> Where is my lawyer
<@StackOverflow> obviously
<@StackOverflow> he's no MIT graduate, but I agree
<+Defaulter> hello? 911!??? I think i just got trolled.
<+Defaulter> _Dynasty, do you use irc often?
<+_Dynasty> No, I was just here to request a ban lifting
<+Defaulter> _Dynasty, do you know what a host is?
<+_Dynasty> No, and I honestly don't care,
<+Defaulter> you should.
<+_Dynasty> Unless it would benefit me of some sort,
<+Defaulter> in a way.
<+Danko> short story: we know you and Le_Troll are the two imposters
<+Defaulter> it'l make you appear less stupid.
<+_Dynasty> Thank you, captain obvious.
<+Danko> your welcome
<+_Dynasty> I've kind of realized that,
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<+Danko> not sure why you are still here then
<+Defaulter> _Dynasty is [email protected]
<+Defaulter> Le_Troll is [email protected]
<+Defaulter> hummm
<+_Dynasty> I'm not going to give you the satisfaction,
<+Danko> I've already got all the satisfaction I need
<@Tank-> ... http://i.imgur.com/lRUT3.jpg
<@StackOverflow> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXcNQTa3zgs
<+Defaulter> _Dynasty, right. in all seriousness, your wasting your time. leave. you will not be getting unbanned.
<+Danko> oh god Tank-
<+Danko> I just had a heartattack
<+_Dynasty> you're*
<@Tank-> Ahaha
<+Defaulter> oh w0w
<+Le_Troll> So what are you trying to achieve then?
<+Danko> do your best jagger, StackOverflow
<+Defaulter> _Dynasty, in fact. stay. you are far to amusing
<+_Dynasty> Of course, anything for you
<+_Dynasty> I'm wondering
<+_Dynasty> How often do people come to this chat room requesting an unbanning?
<+Defaulter> http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1060/5124699989_a414738d44.jpg
<@StackOverflow> quite often
<+USABxBOOYO> Quite often actually
<+_Dynasty> Hmm, by the way you guys put it
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<+_Dynasty> you talk as if I'll never be able to play again,
<+Defaulter> inb4 "fuck da pohlice"
<+_Dynasty> If I'm not mistaken, surely I can change my IP and play again,
<+Defaulter> told yah ^
<@StackOverflow> surely I can do a cidr ban :D
<+_Dynasty> cidr?
<+_Dynasty> I'm unsure of what that is, educate me.
<@StackOverflow> well you seemed pretty confident, I figured you knew
<+_Dynasty> Oh that's unusual because I was confident about IP changing
<+_Dynasty> nothing about cidr,
<+Defaulter> pear cidr
<+Defaulter> <3
<+_Dynasty> But please, I'm still wondering what it is,
<+_Dynasty> Ah well, unfortunately you can't just ban me simply on my "word"
<+Defaulter> you seem familier, ever used the nick "DUMB<BAS>"?
<+Defaulter> it suits you
<+_Dynasty> after all a "man's word is only as good as his action's, and [mine] has proved less the savoury"
<+USABxBOOYO> Defaulter: ...
* +Danko bans Markham, Ontario
<+_Dynasty> No, I haven't used that nickname before.
<+Defaulter> USABxBOOYO, oh comon. it was kinda funny.
<+_Dynasty> but another question comes to mind
<+_Dynasty> since a cidr ban is impossible to get around
<+_Dynasty> why doesn't everyone do this?
<+Defaulter> They do.
<+_Dynasty> oh? then why wasn't I?
<+_Dynasty> To the best of my knowledge, I was IP banned,
<+USABxBOOYO> _Dynasty: Collateral damage
<+_Dynasty> I don't understand,
<+Defaulter> ^
<+Defaulter> ugh ninja'd
<+USABxBOOYO> Innocent people may get caught up in it
<+Danko> _Dynasty: cidr is an ip range
<+Defaulter> it causes collateral damage to perform
<@StackOverflow> In reality there are several thousand IPs banned
<+Defaulter> BUT in special cases StackOverflow is super happy to do it
<+Defaulter> heck he's supe rhappy to have an excuse to do it
<@StackOverflow> the gbl only shows ~1300
<+_Dynasty> Oh, so a cidr ban on a specific person will ban a ton of people?
<+Danko> ie: instead of banning 'c', we ban 'a-d' so you can change your ip, but you'll still be banned
<+_Dynasty> Sorry, it's late, I'm having difficulty understanding,
<+_Dynasty> stayed up too long,
<@StackOverflow> ip != person
<+_Dynasty> Interesting,
<+_Dynasty> So if I go down, I take a chunk of the population with me..
<+Danko> your population
<+USABxBOOYO> Not necessarily
<+_Dynasty> Not my population
<@StackOverflow> in reality, there would probably be no impact on our end
<+Danko> most people in your neighborhood probably don't play AoS
<+USABxBOOYO> It depends on things such as your ISP, etc.
<+_Dynasty> Le_Troll does,
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<+_Dynasty> And I'm not saying that it would have any impact
<+Danko> if some of your buddies at school in Markham, Ontario play, they might get banned as well
<+Danko> but probably not
<+_Dynasty> after all, you guys have 13k likes on Facebook!
<@StackOverflow> not sure what fb likes have to do with anything
<+_Dynasty> I am flattered that you guys considered me as a possibly cidr banning candidate, :')
<+_Dynasty> I love you guys.
<@StackOverflow> you aren't the first
<+_Dynasty> I am just glad to be part of them,
<+Defaulter> we cidr alot of idiots
<+Danko> in all likelyhood, it would only be you and Le_Troll who would be affected by a ban like that
<+_Dynasty> Mhm, believe what you like, Danko
<@StackOverflow> he's actually right
<+Danko> I guess I should listen to the guy who doesn't know what he is talking about
<+Defaulter> Tank-, pass that popcorn.
<+_Dynasty> I'm agreeing with you, Danko..
<@StackOverflow> networking
<+_Dynasty> What..
<@StackOverflow> how does it work
<@StackOverflow> inb4 net
<+Defaulter> netowrking, how the F**** do they work.
<+Danko> series of tubes
<@StackOverflow> it's rather easy to ban large subnets
<@StackOverflow> entire ISPs
<+Danko> think of it this way, _Dynasty
<+Danko> http://www.ip-adress.com/map/Map_of_Markham_in_Ontario_in_Canada/e07bf4d6205ac3ceacf8ca17fa0f0a29
<+Danko> everyone on-screen on that page will be banned
<@StackOverflow> lol park
<+Danko> in all likelihood, that's only you and Le_Troll
<+_Dynasty> Why do you only presume it's me and Le_Troll?
<+Danko> in fact, only people in that area who also have Rogers Cable would be banned
<+Danko> simple guess that I rarely even see canadian players
<+Defaulter> StackOverflow, ban that ENTIRE field
<+Danko> let alone ontario players
<+Defaulter> T_T
<@StackOverflow> would be easy to write a script to ban based on region
<+_Dynasty> Danko, do you wish to be a moderator in the near future?
<+_Dynasty> or are you one already, sorry I didn't ask before.
<+Danko> I am already
<+_Dynasty> Oh, interesting,
<@StackOverflow> I wish to be a moderator in the near future
<+_Dynasty> And I assume Defaulter, you are one also?
<+_Dynasty> oh l0l thats funny
<+USABxBOOYO> Defaulter is not
<+Defaulter> when i grow up, i want to be a stackoverflow
<+_Dynasty> Oh, well
<+Le_Troll> Baby steps,
<+Danko> better get started on those pancakes, Defaulter
<+Defaulter> o7
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<+_Dynasty> Best of luck Defaulter, you're doing a superb job at kissing ass,
<+Defaulter> lol
<+_Dynasty> Hopefully maybe we will meet again? Different IPs?
<+_Dynasty> Unless you guys cidr ban me first, LOL.
<+Defaulter> o/
<+Danko> ._.
<@StackOverflow> I don't think he realized how cidr works
<+Defaulter> StackOverflow, how's my ass kissing?
<+_Dynasty> Ah Stack, I don't really care
<+_Dynasty> Best of luck you guys,