cp_Benk: really have to be mr negative nancy?
DRDONUTMAN: all of you are pissing me off
cp_Benk: How? Nobody even fought with eachother that scrim
DRDONUTMAN: id rather not talk about it when im already mad
cp_Benk: ok but i actually thought that was a decent scrim. Sure we made our fair share of mistakes but that's why we're an open team and they're an IM team
cp_Benk: the biggest thing is that we played together and didn't fight over bullshit
cp_Benk: and having you say like "You all pissed me off that scrim ect ect we didn't even try to win" doesn't help
DRDONUTMAN: you want to know what bothers me the most, the thing that changed, the thing that happened that made us bad, when we were good as fuck in the preseason
cp_Benk: I think it's possible that you just had lower expecations in the preseason
DRDONUTMAN: no
DRDONUTMAN: we were better
DRDONUTMAN: we were scrimming Im teams
DRDONUTMAN: 4-3 vs mason's team
DRDONUTMAN: we were beating every open team easily
cp_Benk: I can't really comment on that
cp_Benk: but getting frustrated over it doesn't help
cp_Benk: we've been having a lot of trouble with fighting with eachother
cp_Benk: and i tried really hard to set a positive atmosphere tonight
cp_Benk: and to some extend it worked because nobody yelled at eachother even though we got 5-0'd
DRDONUTMAN: ill tell you once this round ends
DRDONUTMAN: k
DRDONUTMAN: in the preseason, everyone listened to me
DRDONUTMAN: everytime i gave you guys advice you'd take it and improve
DRDONUTMAN: or told you what you did wrong, youd listen
DRDONUTMAN: now everytime i criticize someone i get jumped like a fucking nerd walking down a back alley
DRDONUTMAN: and no offense but you guys listen to kapoww too much
DRDONUTMAN: ik now more about the game than him, and i ACTAULLY PLAY WITH YOU GUYS
DRDONUTMAN: everyday im on the same team and mumble
DRDONUTMAN: i know you guys inside and out because i scrim with you multiple times everyday
DRDONUTMAN: but you take outsider's advice instead of mine
DRDONUTMAN: that's theo nly thing that's changed from preseason to now
DRDONUTMAN: and guess what, we fucking suck dick
DRDONUTMAN: like when i told you you should get flashed
DRDONUTMAN: i palyed medic for a top im team for a whole season
DRDONUTMAN: with the 2 best scouts in the div
DRDONUTMAN: did you honestly not think i didnt know what i was talking about
DRDONUTMAN: tht was what bothered me so much
cp_Benk: ok i get your point
cp_Benk: i just didn't see any reason to split the uber
cp_Benk: but there's no point arguing over a specific thing
DRDONUTMAN: it was just me cland was already dead because he got droppda nd i was running out of ammo
DRDONUTMAN: im just bringing up an example of what happens EVERY day
DRDONUTMAN: any little piece of advice is
DRDONUTMAN: oh calm down donut
DRDONUTMAN: oh thats mean dount
DRDONUTMAN: blah blah donut
cp_Benk: I think everybody feels that way
DRDONUTMAN: im not gonna sugar coat shit so you feel gooda bout yourself
cp_Benk: btw anotehr change between now and preseason is that you were main calling
cp_Benk: so naturally we pushed at better times
DRDONUTMAN: ya but even on the "off days" foster bitched about
DRDONUTMAN: we were still way better
DRDONUTMAN: everyone got a taste of greatnessi n the pre season and thought they were finally good
DRDONUTMAN: and boy does it suck now
DRDONUTMAN: cant even 5-0 teams anymore
cp_Benk: well it seems to me that you think the problem is that we aren't willing to take advice
DRDONUTMAN: youa re willing
DRDONUTMAN: but from kapoww and techno
DRDONUTMAN: who arent on this team
DRDONUTMAN: when someone who is on yor team
DRDONUTMAN: can play at their level
DRDONUTMAN: and actaully plays wih you everyday
DRDONUTMAN: i learned how to play tf2 with "the great" pure seanbud and lange
DRDONUTMAN: you guys pass up the greatest thing that has ever happened to you
DRDONUTMAN: an almost invitep layer coming down to open to help ppl get better
DRDONUTMAN: and have a little fun in the process
DRDONUTMAN: and this is why im so grouchy every day
DRDONUTMAN: you guys just dont let me help you
DRDONUTMAN: it's ridiculous
cp_Benk: So how can we try to fix it?
cp_Benk: IMO
cp_Benk: number one needs to be focusing on keeping everybody calm durring scrims
cp_Benk: which is what i tried to do tonight
cp_Benk: because nobody's going to resopnd well to criticism if they're already mad
DRDONUTMAN: people need to get rid of their undeserved egos
cp_Benk: then we watch demos afterwards and that's where you can teach
DRDONUTMAN: you can watch demos yourself and easily see what you did wrong
DRDONUTMAN: ideally
DRDONUTMAN: justl isten to me when i tell you something mid game
cp_Benk: what do you want us to learn from you then
DRDONUTMAN: and watch an invite demo afterwards
DRDONUTMAN: if you want
DRDONUTMAN: otherwise just ask questions
DRDONUTMAN: if you dont ask ill never kno what you're wondering
cp_Benk: ok