[08:18] <Mad_Hatter> the real news is that Kim Dotcom is going free
[08:19] <Mad_Hatter> Search warrants used when 70 New Zealand police raided the mansion of the suspected kingpin of an Internet piracy ring were illegal, a New Zealand court ruled on Thursday, dealing a blow to the FBI's highest profile global copyright theft case.
[08:19] <WordOnTheWind> Noc: What, the thing on the forum?
[08:19] <WordOnTheWind> I wouldn't know, I don't pay attention to that stuff.
[08:19] <UristMcStoutHorn> >twaddle
[08:19] <UristMcStoutHorn> I like you Mad_Hatter
[08:20] <Noc> M e too
[08:20] <Mad_Hatter> Oh thank you
[08:20] <Mad_Hatter> I believe that puts you in the minority
[08:20] <Noc> Awwwwwwww
[08:20] <Noc> Are you ugly?
[08:20] <Noc> Fat?
[08:20] <Noc> Only cool on the internet?
[08:20] <UristMcStoutHorn> Also: Kim Dotcom, wasn't that the... uh...  megaupload guy?
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[08:21] <Mad_Hatter> I'm not fat or ugly!
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[08:21] <Noc> He did a classic insider trading, and everyone fell for it
[08:22] <Nimrod> ooo
[08:22] <Nimrod> ForgeQuest got another update.
[08:22] <Noc> Wuts that?
[08:22] <Nimrod> Another game I'm following.
[08:22] <Mad_Hatter> Noc: I'm sometimes perceived as being slightly abrasive
[08:22] <Mad_Hatter> Kim Dotcom is indeed the megaupload guy
[08:22] <Nimrod> "Sometimes" may be an understatement.
[08:22] <Noc> How do I pm someone on livechat plugin?
[08:22] <Nimrod> It does seem fairly often.
[08:22] <Mad_Hatter> AKA Kim Schmitz
[08:23] <Mad_Hatter> AKA Kim Jim Vestor
[08:23] <Mad_Hatter> AKA Kimble
[08:23] <Benguin>  /query NAME message
[08:23] <WordOnTheWind> Noc: Ye queried me properly earlier, I just didn't respond.
[08:23] <Mad_Hatter> AKA Bitbug
[08:23] <Benguin> @ noc
[08:23] <Noc> i get it now
[08:23] <Benguin> oh, you don't need to adda message
[08:23] <@Lazerus> oh god its dark and i havent gotten anything done >.<
[08:23] <Benguin> that's if yo use /msg
[08:23] <Benguin> you*
[08:23] <Mad_Hatter> Noc: He hurt a lot of people with his investment scam
[08:23] <Noc> Anyways, could any kind individual bump my thread?
[08:24] <Mad_Hatter> that's only one of his crimes
[08:24] <Noc> I like him
[08:24] <Nimrod> lol clans
[08:24] <Nimrod> Noc
[08:24] <Mad_Hatter> only because you don't know him

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08:28] <Mad_Hatter> Noc: He robbed old people of their money
[08:28] <Noc> This is just the same
[08:28] * Nimrod thinks clan groupings are ridiculous.
[08:28] <Mad_Hatter> Noc: Your attitude is rather cutthroat
[08:29] <Noc> Anyone home?
[08:29] <Mad_Hatter> you don't have to hide the fact that you like him
[08:29] * Nimrod puts on his ...What? face.
[08:29] * weefreemen (~weefreeme@81.168.55.81) Quit ( Quit: meow )
[08:29] <UristMcStoutHorn> Most of us are hope, probably.
[08:29] <Mad_Hatter> he really is a scumbag though
[08:29] <@Marketh> I'm not hope
[08:29] <Mad_Hatter> of the worst kind
[08:29] <Pozuski|Craft> mc really does nothing to help my fear of the dark =s
[08:30] * Lazerus (~Lazerus@42.241.132.183) Quit ( Ping timeout: 245 seconds )
[08:30] <Pozuski|Craft> hat who we talking bout?
[08:30] <Noc> I like him
[08:30] <Mad_Hatter> Kim Dotcom
[08:30] <UristMcStoutHorn> All this talk of clans and such, and evil scumbags...
[08:30] * UristMcStoutHorn fires up Dwarf Fortress
[08:30] <Noc> Speaking of clans...
[08:30] <tramsan> I am hope incarnate.
[08:30] <Mad_Hatter> he's likely going free
[08:30] <Noc> Anybody willing to bump my thread?
[08:30] * bartwe2 (bartwe@mail.ortec.com) Quit ( Ping timeout: 260 seconds )
[08:30] <Noc> It isn't a giant request
[08:30] <@Marketh> why bump it
[08:31] <Mad_Hatter> http://twitter.com/#!/Kim_Dotcom
[08:31] <@Marketh> if people are interested in it, they'd respond to it
[08:31] <Mad_Hatter> yeah noc that really is pandering
[08:31] <Mad_Hatter> you apparently need to spice it up a little
[08:31] <Noc> How?
[08:31] <Noc> It's very spiced up
[08:31] <Pozuski|Craft> give it a theme ppl can relate to?
[08:31] <Noc> I even made a corp. to go with it
[08:31] <Nimrod> Oh, he is scum.

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[08:33] <Disreputable_Dog> He is a con man. :/
[08:33] <Mad_Hatter> yes he is
[08:33] <Noc> He's smart
[08:33] <Nimrod> But it's like the last straw.
[08:33] <Mad_Hatter> he's also a coward
[08:33] <Pozuski|Craft> i love cod battered and fried long john silvers do it right
[08:33] <Mad_Hatter> and a snitch
[08:33] <Mad_Hatter> he hurt a lot of people
[08:33] <Noc> How is he a coward?
[08:33] <Nimrod> "snitch"
[08:33] <Nimrod> What do people mean by that?
[08:33] <Mad_Hatter> people?
[08:33] <Mad_Hatter> have you heard someone else call him that?
[08:33] <Nimrod> No, I just mean in general.
[08:33] <Nimrod> Which is why I use the plural.
[08:33] <Noc> brb
[08:34] <Mad_Hatter> it means ratting someone out
[08:34] <Noc> Trying to spice up my clan...
[08:34] <Mad_Hatter> usually getting them in trouble in some way
[08:34] <Mad_Hatter> in this case he did it to those closest to him
[08:34] <Mad_Hatter> to save his own ass
[08:34] <Mad_Hatter> and he hurt a lot of people in the process
[08:34] <Nimrod> :|
[08:34] <Nimrod> I'm not sure I can call snitching a negative thing.
[08:35] <@Marketh> Nimrod, basically he used people who thought he was their friend
[08:35] <@Marketh> This is a negative thing
[08:35] <Nimrod> That is.
[08:35] <Mad_Hatter> He used them sure, but he also took some heat
[08:35] <@Marketh> If you can't trust a friend, then it is always a negative thing
[08:35] <Mad_Hatter> and ruined peoples lives to save his ass
[08:35] <Noc> o?
[08:35] <Noc> People shouldn't have let him
[08:36] <Mad_Hatter> nearly ruined mine
[08:36] <Noc> IT'
[08:36] <Noc> It's not his fault
[08:36] <@Marketh> Noc, how is it not his fault?
[08:36] <Nimrod> I'm still sort of lost on what happened as a group for there to be any snitching.
[08:36] <Noc> How did he nearly ruin your life?
[08:36] <@Marketh> He had choices
[08:36] <@Marketh> He made the wrong choices, it was his choice to make
[08:36] <@Marketh> Thus it is his fault
[08:36] <Noc> No
[08:36] <Noc> Fool me once, shame on you, fool me tice, shame on me

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[08:39] <DevilBro> yo dude, it's totally your fault when someone shoots you
[08:39] <Noc> Devilbro I agree
[08:39] <DevilBro> don't let people shoot you
[08:39] <Noc> Exactly
[08:39] <DevilBro> i don't agree
[08:39] <DevilBro> <.<'
[08:39] <Pozuski|Craft> ...
[08:39] <@Marketh> you can't do something about something you don't actually know about yet
[08:39] <DevilBro> don't put words in my mouth
[08:39] <@Marketh> you can't stop a murder from happening until you know it is going to happen
[08:39] <Mad_Hatter> and preceed to work with the feds in what led an unprecedented wave of BBS busts
[08:39] <Noc> That's not a fair analogy
[08:39] <Mad_Hatter> a lot of good guys went down
[08:39] <@Marketh> how is it not fair
[08:39] <Mad_Hatter> did jail time
[08:40] <@Marketh> do you have ANY idea how conning works?
[08:40] <@Marketh> Seriously
[08:40] <Noc> YEs, I do
[08:40] <Mad_Hatter> lives ruined to varying degrees
[08:40] <Mad_Hatter> he threatened me personally
[08:40] <@Marketh> Then the analogy works just fine
[08:40] <Noc> So?
[08:40] <Noc> It does not

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[08:40] <Noc> They DID know about it
[08:40] <Mad_Hatter> there was a good year of my life when I anticipated the crashing of windows heralding my downfall
[08:40] <@Marketh> Noc, it isn't always as simple as knowing
[08:40] <Noc> He didn't use a seperate identity, now did he?
[08:41] <DevilBro> yeah because every human would let another human ruin their lives for lulz
[08:41] <Mad_Hatter> Noc: He went by the name Bitbug back then
[08:41] <Mad_Hatter> he has many aliasaes
[08:41] <Mad_Hatter> aliases
[08:41] <Noc> That's an alias, not a seperat ID
[08:41] * DevilBro lifts an eyebrow
[08:41] <Nimrod> :|
[08:41] * WordOnTheWind apples a palm to her own face.
[08:41] * Nimrod slams his face through multiple desks
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[08:42] <Noc> My alias may be NOC, but I can't make a 900,000$ investment under the name 'Noc"
[08:42] <Noc> Usually not, atleast

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[08:48] <Noc> Anyways, so I'm solely concerned about my clan at the moment
[08:48] <Nimrod> So the BBSes were being used by pirates
[08:48] <Nimrod> And that's why
[08:48] <Noc> Anyone bump a thread for me and I'll give you the Mediosa informations page pic
[08:48] <WordOnTheWind> Noc, I don't think a single person here wants to support you in your endeavor after your flagrant display of mental quastionability and moral bankruptcy.

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[08:54] <Noc> I'm conviced the majority of you have no idea how clans work
[08:54] <@Marketh> Nimrod, it has no subscription if that is what you mean by "pay"
[08:54] <tramsan> Also there'd just be a slew of blank lines. =|
[08:54] <DevilBro> you join a clan, you dos tuff together
[08:54] <Nimrod> Marketh: No, I mean I wouldn't buy the game.
[08:54] <DevilBro> end of the story
[08:54] <@Marketh> Ah
[08:54] <@Marketh> fair enough
[08:54] <DevilBro> *do stuff
[08:54] <Noc> No...
[08:55] <Mad_Hatter> he doesn't want to join a clan
[08:55] <nuthulu> Also by technical law i'm part of clan macleod
[08:55] <@Marketh> Noc, not every body makes a clan for the sake of being all serious
[08:55] * Lazerus| is now known as Lazerus
[08:55] <Nimrod> I only looked more at Starbound solely because I was told it'd have a Mac version.
[08:55] <Mad_Hatter> he's pretending that it's because its too big and it will be too chaotic
[08:55] <@Marketh> Some people actually join clans just to have fun with friends and people they know within games
[08:55] <Nimrod> Making it worth my time to buy it. >_>
[08:55] <WordOnTheWind> As you said, it's ancient history.  The scenarios have already unfolded and while there may be lingering thoughts and feelings from those involved, nothing will change what has happened and so there's no need to be upset over it.
[08:55] <Mad_Hatter> but the real reason is because he wants to be in charge of it

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