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  1. [00:45:55 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : So, who wants to discuss characterization?
  2. [00:50:35 22/07/13] @ Darc : Sure, I'm down.
  3. [00:50:51 22/07/13] @ Darc : I pretty much bored everyone with my TTRPG lectures again.
  4. [00:51:21 22/07/13] @ Darc : So something interesting would surely liven up chat.
  5. [00:51:22 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : It's for the anime idea thing we had yesterday.
  6. [00:51:35 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : I have the skills to make some sort of manga of it.
  7. [00:51:52 22/07/13] @ Florian : nah i was on minecraft
  8. [00:52:02 22/07/13] @ Florian : will re read stat stuf'f
  9. [00:52:49 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : I was telling Zell off for even thinking I might want to ask Deena to not move out
  10. [00:53:08 22/07/13] @ Darc : Good on you, Cat.
  11. [00:53:19 22/07/13] @ Darc : So yeah, please do go on, ToA.
  12. [00:53:57 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : anyone who is so fucking dumb as to try making a painting of a painting set without knowing what a painting set looks like doesn't deserve to live in the walls of Carthage
  13. [00:54:26 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit :
  14. [00:54:53 22/07/13] @ Darc : Wat.
  15. [00:54:53 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : Let's see, J said that she, Kik, and Commander are part of the giant robot police force, and I'm the high school student. Darc is the main villain, and Florian is the assistant of the main villain. That's what we have so far.
  16. [00:56:16 22/07/13] @ Darc : Well, I can help in writing fluff for the world and setting and whatnot.
  17. [00:56:57 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : I know I have the sempai love interest, and we have the Vespa armor.
  18. [00:57:03 22/07/13] @ Darc : It's a skill that's mandatory for anyone who plays TTRPGs yet has a few gripes about the setting when GMing.
  19. [00:57:05 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : only reason I gave her my painting set was out of pity
  20. [00:57:15 22/07/13] @ Darc : Hm...
  21. [00:57:17 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : and because she was offering scale armor for it
  22. [00:57:44 22/07/13] @ Darc : Do we have any logical rhyme or reason that Vespa Scooters are becoming giant robots?
  23. [00:58:16 22/07/13] @ Darc : Or would it be more of a Power Rangers kind of thing where they become one BIG giant robot after merging?
  24. [01:00:43 22/07/13] @ Darc : Wb, J.
  25. [01:01:04 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : I think it's our own armor. I know we have to fight your magic monster types using the armor.
  26. [01:02:08 22/07/13] @ J : thanks
  27. [01:02:26 22/07/13] @ Darc : Ohok.
  28. [01:02:39 22/07/13] @ Darc : So moreso body armor than giant mech suits?
  29. [01:02:59 22/07/13] @ J : i wasn't planning on combining them but yeah, body armor
  30. [01:04:32 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : So, how did this giant robot police force even come to be? And why do I have the armor?
  31. [01:04:54 22/07/13] @ J : still haven't thought of a good reason for a high school kid being on the team
  32. [01:04:57 22/07/13] @ Darc : I got it!
  33. [01:05:51 22/07/13] @ Darc : So, first off, the Giant Robot Police Force was an initiative made by the government that was shut down for being 'too costly' despite massive amounts of 'anonymous donations' to the project.
  34. [01:07:03 22/07/13] @ Darc : So, everyone linked to the project that could potentially bring to light the nature of what they actually intended to do with the GRPF Initiative were immediately laid off.
  35. [01:07:07 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : Anonymous Donations?
  36. [01:07:49 22/07/13] @ Darc : We've established that I'm a crazy rich BBEG trying to raise an army, and well, what better than getting giant mechs?
  37. [01:07:54 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : And then enter Darc and his Darc Magic.
  38. [01:08:31 22/07/13] @ J : heh pun...
  39. [01:08:32 22/07/13] @ Darc : That, or we can even circumvent that with "Mechs not being my style" and said donations could be the work of the second season's BBEG.
  40. [01:09:35 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : You're the villain. You decide.
  41. [01:09:46 22/07/13] @ Darc : So yeah, the crew from the GRPF Initiative can be the adult main cast.
  42. [01:10:55 22/07/13] @ Darc : ^^I like the latter, personally, magic's fun when it's not defined as lame shit like "Ermahgerd I can level mountains and sink islands!"
  43. [01:11:06 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : And I'm apparently the overall main character.
  44. [01:11:47 22/07/13] @ Darc : So yeah, here's how I see it starting. This is subject to everyone else's opinions, but yeah, just pitching an idea.
  45. [01:12:21 22/07/13] @ Darc : Darc and his Crime Syndicate/Demon Army/??? announce their intent to conquer the city, then the world.
  46. [01:13:04 22/07/13] @ J : oh no!
  47. [01:13:10 22/07/13] @ J : the whooole world?
  48. [01:13:23 22/07/13] @ Darc : The GRPF Initiative Crew respond by quickly making makeshift suits of battle armor out of everyday vehicles, with at least one Vespa in the bunch, mandatory.
  49. [01:13:57 22/07/13] @ Darc : So, this is our first three episodes right there.
  50. [01:14:19 22/07/13] @ Darc : ToA is just the casual observer, seemingly the main character that's on the outside looking in.
  51. [01:16:08 22/07/13] @ Darc : And then during one fateful incident, he's actually right on the scene during a battle between Darc and the heroes of "The World's Honorably Fighting Muscle Brigade" fighting, and the heroes lose. Also, please note that the name is a filler for an actual team name.
  52. [01:16:50 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : And I step in.
  53. [01:16:55 22/07/13] @ J : awesome
  54. [01:16:55 22/07/13] @ Darc : Yup.
  55. [01:17:14 22/07/13] @ J : and the kid's actually turns the battle around
  56. [01:17:20 22/07/13] @ Darc : With the extra person in tow, Darc loses, makes his retreat.
  57. [01:17:38 22/07/13] @ Florian : lol
  58. [01:17:44 22/07/13] @ J : for now
  59. [01:17:49 22/07/13] @ Darc : ToA gets added to the team because their bacon would have been smoked without his help, so he's a pretty cool guy.
  60. [01:17:57 22/07/13] @ Darc : There we go.
  61. [01:17:58 22/07/13] @ J : then Asian is assigned a spot on the team
  62. [01:18:15 22/07/13] @ Darc : That's a basic plot summary for at least four episodes/chapters.
  63. [01:18:25 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : Whenever Darc attacks, I have to get an excuse to get out of class.
  64. [01:19:17 22/07/13] @ J : or when you're being "called to work" I run into class, grab you and drag you out of the school, always slamming a doctors note on your poor confused teachers desk
  65. [01:19:41 22/07/13] @ Darc : Oh, and for the first few episodes to open up the setting to the reader/viewer, the "HERO SQUAD" kicks Darc's ass.
  66. [01:19:48 22/07/13] @ Darc : This is a rule.
  67. [01:19:54 22/07/13] @ J : leading to fall gags where the teacher trys to stand in the door and gets knocked out of the way
  68. [01:20:05 22/07/13] @ J : of course
  69. [01:20:12 22/07/13] @ Darc : Their first loss has to conveniently be right before ToA joins up.
  70. [01:20:21 22/07/13] @ J : if you won and the plot thickened right off how the hell would we drag this out?
  71. [01:20:58 22/07/13] @ Darc : Yup.
  72. [01:21:21 22/07/13] @ Darc : And it justifies adding a random bystander who decided to help into the team.
  73. [01:22:06 22/07/13] @ Darc : Oh, and I vote for a Dengeki Stryker style of approach to the heroes and villains in their off-hours.
  74. [01:22:07 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : .
  75. [01:22:09 22/07/13] @ J : awesome
  76. [01:22:30 22/07/13] @ J : awha?
  77. [01:22:32 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : if you're putting me in a giant robot thing my robot needs to be a lion
  78. [01:22:40 22/07/13] @ Darc : I'll explain it.
  79. [01:23:05 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : that's the kind of robot I use
  80. [01:23:16 22/07/13] @ Darc : So, we have our heroes and villains. Both sides wear costumes or disguises or haveatyou into battle.
  81. [01:23:35 22/07/13] @ Darc : Sometimes, said haveatyou doesn't mask their identity properly.
  82. [01:23:40 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : I have a school uniform.
  83. [01:24:13 22/07/13] @ Darc : Yet even then, when both the heroes and villains are going about day to day life, in their normalfag clothes, they might even see eachother.
  84. [01:24:45 22/07/13] @ Darc : Yet, they can't draw a connection between J and "Vespa Black", for example.
  85. [01:25:13 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : nobody ever recognizes me in my puppet body
  86. [01:25:22 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : because cat=/= person
  87. [01:25:38 22/07/13] @ Darc : Yet to the same coin, each character remains distinct for the reader.
  88. [01:26:28 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : And everyone knows me because I step in without a Vespa.
  89. [01:26:32 22/07/13] @ J : oh I see
  90. [01:26:34 22/07/13] @ Darc : So it's just something that adds a bit of wackiness that comes from having your villains and heroes both (or try to) be normal folks off hours.
  91. [01:26:49 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : So, when I do get a Vespa, they already know who I am.
  92. [01:27:05 22/07/13] @ J : heck a hero could even have regular conversations with a villain
  93. [01:27:11 22/07/13] @ J : be neighbors and whatnot
  94. [01:27:20 22/07/13] @ Darc : Yep.
  95. [01:27:31 22/07/13] @ Darc : That's the Dengeki Stryker approach.
  96. [01:28:26 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : hell puppet body can be its own robot instead of a bunch of metal blocks stuck together
  97. [01:29:46 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : like an iron man suit or some shit
  98. [01:31:05 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : So, how would everyone's personality be?
  99. [01:32:14 22/07/13] @ Florian : i dunno what we are talking about anymore
  100. [01:33:02 22/07/13] @ Darc : Hm...
  101. [01:33:15 22/07/13] @ Darc : Darc as a character...
  102. [01:34:03 22/07/13] @ J : you know what
  103. [01:34:08 22/07/13] @ Darc : He's proud of being evil, and likes to up the ante, but believes that evil has standards.
  104. [01:34:15 22/07/13] @ J : I don't want to be a token girl!
  105. [01:34:24 22/07/13] @ J : I can be better than that
  106. [01:34:29 22/07/13] @ Darc : You don't gotta be.
  107. [01:34:33 22/07/13] @ Florian : ???
  108. [01:34:51 22/07/13] @ Florian : seriously what are we talking about
  109. [01:35:00 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : butts
  110. [01:35:16 22/07/13] @ Darc : DF Animu/Mango
  111. [01:35:27 22/07/13] @ Florian : ahh
  112. [01:35:35 22/07/13] @ Darc : Archives are your fireend, Trace.
  113. [01:35:44 22/07/13] @ Darc : But never confuse a fireend for a friend.
  114. [01:35:49 22/07/13] @ Florian : yeah
  115. [01:35:55 22/07/13] @ J : where we the heroes fight evil monsters to defend our city by being part of a giant robot police force of justice!
  116. [01:36:19 22/07/13] @ Darc : Fireends are highly irritable and may or may not subject you to long bouts of indigestion.
  117. [01:37:27 22/07/13] @ Florian : is trace a seperate character?
  118. [01:37:34 22/07/13] @ J : yeah
  119. [01:37:39 22/07/13] @ Darc : I would assume so.
  120. [01:37:44 22/07/13] @ Florian : cool
  121. [01:38:01 22/07/13] @ Darc : After all, Trace and Florian are separate folks in DF Canon.
  122. [01:38:09 22/07/13] @ J : a seperate character from Florian?
  123. [01:38:16 22/07/13] @ J : oh ok
  124. [01:38:18 22/07/13] @ J : yeah
  125. [01:38:27 22/07/13] @ J : trace can get a robot too
  126. [01:39:22 22/07/13] @ Florian : yay
  127. [01:39:37 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : I think my teacher should be named Mr. Hall.
  128. [01:42:02 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : Should the first episode/chapter throw us right on the day of Darc's initial invasion or should if explain everything first?
  129. [01:42:31 22/07/13] @ J : throw us right in
  130. [01:42:47 22/07/13] @ J : peaceful cityscape and then, an explosion
  131. [01:42:53 22/07/13] @ Florian : yup
  132. [01:42:55 22/07/13] @ J : "attention citizens!"
  133. [01:43:06 22/07/13] @ Florian : how moat animu's start
  134. [01:43:09 22/07/13] @ J : "activate giant robot police force GO!"
  135. [01:43:13 22/07/13] @ Florian : *most
  136. [01:43:31 22/07/13] @ Florian : then tbe build up too it
  137. [01:43:37 22/07/13] @ Darc : Hm...
  138. [01:44:01 22/07/13] @ Darc : From the way I pitched it, I'd say that it'd start with villain invasion announcement.
  139. [01:44:24 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : So yeah, throw us right in.
  140. [01:44:53 22/07/13] @ Florian : heh "Ladies and Genrlemen you are being invaded. I apologise for any inconvenience caused
  141. [01:45:00 22/07/13] @ Florian : "
  142. [01:45:03 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : Does Darc get robots too or are we sticking with the magical monsters?
  143. [01:45:30 22/07/13] @ Darc : But no explosions rocking the city. Evil has standards, so while it'll rob a bank and extort taxpayer dollars, it won't involve those that won't raise a hand in protest.
  144. [01:46:04 22/07/13] @ J : so crime, but not terrorism
  145. [01:46:08 22/07/13] @ J : ...kinda
  146. [01:46:15 22/07/13] @ Florian : and thatsbwhy we are the police amd not part of the armed foeces
  147. [01:46:28 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : But we have robot armor.
  148. [01:46:40 22/07/13] @ Darc : Well, not so much the police as vigilanties with robot armor.
  149. [01:46:44 22/07/13] @ J : because we're fighting magic monsters
  150. [01:47:15 22/07/13] @ Darc : Also, Darc can work in a few upgrades to his ranks further down the road.
  151. [01:47:29 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : I guess the best description of myself would be wild and outrageous while also being serious when I gotta be
  152. [01:47:42 22/07/13] @ Darc : That way generic mook 3 can at least become generic mook 3 in a mech suit.
  153. [01:47:52 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : and I like weird out of the box improvised attacks. Those are fun
  154. [01:47:55 22/07/13] @ Florian : lol
  155. [01:48:22 22/07/13] @ Florian : dunno what trace would be like
  156. [01:49:29 22/07/13] @ J : i need to go to bed
  157. [01:49:39 22/07/13] @ Florian : kk
  158. [01:49:46 22/07/13] @ J : night all
  159. [01:49:59 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : Night.
  160. [01:50:09 22/07/13] @ Florian : night J
  161. [01:51:22 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : Let's see. Darc says his announcement and the magical monsters wreak havoc, but are careful in not destroying things. But they do destroy things anyway. Just accidentally.
  162. [01:52:00 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : The police try to stop them, but the bullets can't injure the magical monsters.
  163. [01:52:41 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : RAINBOWS CAN
  164. [01:52:55 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : CAUSE FUCK YEAH ALL THE COLORS!!!
  165. [01:52:58 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : That's when the Vespa Armor TEam(placeholder name. We'd have to give Vespa royalties if we depict them with their name) step in.
  166. [01:53:04 22/07/13] @ Darc : HARMONY HARMONY OH LOVE
  167. [01:53:33 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : At first, they can handle it, but then they can't once Darc actually comes to town.
  168. [01:53:42 22/07/13] @ Florian : so what type of robot suits are we using
  169. [01:53:50 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : I WILL FIGHT DARC!!!
  170. [01:53:59 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : I'm pretty used to it by now
  171. [01:54:07 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : Robot suits that can battle magic.
  172. [01:54:10 22/07/13] * Commander Catspirit pulls out a fresh salmon and smacks Darc inthe face
  173. [01:54:22 22/07/13] @ Florian : appleseed style?
  174. [01:54:40 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : SUPER FIST OF THE SALMON
  175. [01:54:43 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : SALMON ROCKET
  176. [01:55:08 22/07/13] * Commander Catspirit swallows the salmon and fires the head and bones out in a blaze of rocket fuel filled glory
  177. [01:55:11 22/07/13] @ Florian : http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/2477199809_ebab9cd256_o.jpg
  178. [01:55:20 22/07/13] * Darc melts
  179. [01:55:25 22/07/13] @ Florian : sorta like this with the dual arm system
  180. [01:56:34 22/07/13] * Commander Catspirit strikes a power ranger pose
  181. [01:56:44 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : I was thinking something along the lines of Kamen Rider Den-O(for some reason) and Gundam.
  182. [01:56:59 22/07/13] @ Darc : Ah yeah, also, Darc's troops would be considered much more dangerous if he weren't forcing them to follow his heavy handed morals.
  183. [01:57:58 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : That opens up a plotline for a rebellious troop/
  184. [01:58:31 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : And with robots vs magic, I feel like some science vs magic arc would start.
  185. [01:58:34 22/07/13] @ Darc : And also, as I suggested before, the case where Florian temporarily takes command.
  186. [01:58:52 22/07/13] @ Florian : is trace gonna be on a wanted list cause hes identical to florian
  187. [01:59:21 22/07/13] @ Darc : We could make them distinct from each other in different ways.
  188. [01:59:25 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : last time I watched Gundam was like...
  189. [01:59:38 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : in the 90's
  190. [01:59:40 22/07/13] @ Florian : gundam are huge
  191. [01:59:53 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : all my giant robot show knowledge comes from Gurren Lagann
  192. [01:59:59 22/07/13] @ Darc : ie: Florian has longer hair, looks more feminine, ect, ect.
  193. [02:00:07 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : which is pretty crazy
  194. [02:00:08 22/07/13] @ Darc : Maybe a different haircolor, idunno.
  195. [02:00:53 22/07/13] @ Florian : mayhe
  196. [02:01:20 22/07/13] @ Darc : But yeah, being typical of BBEGs for this genre, Darc gets his shit slapped by the heroes, but this time, he's left in considerably worse shape than usual.
  197. [02:02:48 22/07/13] @ Darc : And after barely managing to make it back to his base of operations safely, Florian goes all Ninja Maid + Yandere and temporarily takes control of operations while Darc's busy getting various broken bones treated.
  198. [02:03:26 22/07/13] @ Florian : oh god yandere
  199. [02:03:47 22/07/13] @ Darc : And since Florian's plans don't follow Darc's format of using small forces to stir up minor trouble to attract the heroes, the whole city is attacked en masse.
  200. [02:04:36 22/07/13] @ Florian : fuck da police
  201. [02:05:05 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : And then the heroes step in. As usual.
  202. [02:05:29 22/07/13] @ Darc : Heroes are managing to break even for a while, holding everything back until Florian shows up with their groups bigassdoommech/unkillableeldrichabomination/nuclear satellite.
  203. [02:05:39 22/07/13] * Commander Catspirit pulls out his glorious rainbow sword
  204. [02:06:44 22/07/13] @ Darc : Wait, gotta link something in the next post for lulz.
  205. [02:06:50 22/07/13] @ Darc : This may be a bit lengthy.
  206. [02:07:05 22/07/13] @ Florian : pretty hard to stop a yandere
  207. [02:08:18 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : Unless the guy her affection is towards can do something, yeah a yandere is pretty hard to stop.
  208. [02:09:43 22/07/13] @ Darc : And then right before she's actually able to cash in on her threat of vaporizing everything, Darc gets better and calls off the attack, lecturing Florian about how "EVIL HAS STANDARDS!" before sending her to the time out corner.
  209. [02:10:14 22/07/13] @ Darc : Because Lawful Evil doesn't bullshit when it comes to the standards of being evil.
  210. [02:10:55 22/07/13] @ Florian : heh
  211. [02:11:43 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : And then I cry because that was the sweetest thing ever.
  212. [02:13:01 22/07/13] @ Darc : And well, with Evil has standards, that solidifies Darc as just a minor Season 1 villain, and Season 2's villain will be considerably more dangerous, mostly due to not having standards.
  213. [02:13:07 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : drill claws
  214. [02:13:48 22/07/13] @ Florian : wonder who s2's boss os
  215. [02:13:51 22/07/13] @ Florian : is
  216. [02:14:13 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : Would Florian's reign be considered Season 1's finale?
  217. [02:15:43 22/07/13] @ Darc : I'd think so, cause it's hard for anyone to take a villain seriously after he just made the call that stopped the place from becoming a pile of ash.
  218. [02:16:55 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : There has to be some filler focusing in on me trying to get sempai to notice me, too, but that's just filler.
  219. [02:17:14 22/07/13] @ Florian : cool
  220. [02:19:28 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : if you call this person sempai in front of my character he'll backhand you or something
  221. [02:19:51 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : I'm at school.
  222. [02:20:04 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : just sayin
  223. [02:20:06 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : You wouldn't be there for me to say sempai in front of you.
  224. [02:20:10 22/07/13] @ Florian : lol
  225. [02:20:16 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : just sayin'
  226. [02:20:36 22/07/13] @ Florian : he could
  227. [02:21:44 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : Whenever we battle Darc, we'd fight in a quarry so that none of the city gets damaged.
  228. [02:21:53 22/07/13] * Commander Catspirit twirl's his puppet body's metal hand around
  229. [02:23:31 22/07/13] @ Darc : But think of the miners!
  230. [02:24:40 22/07/13] ThatOneAsian : I am a miner!
  231. [02:25:14 22/07/13] @ Florian : i think trace could be the rich model
  232. [02:25:18 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : well I'm a senior!
  233. [02:25:24 22/07/13] @ Commander Catspirit : RESPECT YO
  234. [02:26:31 22/07/13] @ Florian : different for the facet hes modeling fornthe oppisite gender of course
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