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- Monday, October 20, 2014
- 5:09 AM - A Perfect Nurple: guys
- 5:09 AM - A Perfect Nurple: KiA brigading
- 5:09 AM - A Perfect Nurple: anyone following it?
- 5:12 AM - Chiral: what is brigading?
- 5:13 AM - A Perfect Nurple: great question
- 5:13 AM - A Perfect Nurple: brigading is the reddit term for when a group of people from one subreddit collectively decide to go fuck with comments/threads in another subreddit
- 5:13 AM - A Perfect Nurple: it's one of the few things that's against site-wide rules
- 5:13 AM - Chiral: ah, so its a raid
- 5:13 AM - A Perfect Nurple: yes.
- 5:14 AM - A Perfect Nurple: specifically brigading is mass upvoting/downvoting though
- 5:14 AM - A Perfect Nurple: raids generally come with that, but not always
- 5:14 AM - Chiral: fair enough, cant say im surprised, theyve fucked with pretty much everything else
- 5:14 AM - A Perfect Nurple: when the quinnspiracy started, a bunch of redditors got banned for the suspicion of coming from 4chan to do this
- 5:14 AM - A Perfect Nurple: with no evidence
- 5:15 AM - A Perfect Nurple: that was in that thread in /r/gaming that got like 30,000 deleted comments
- 5:15 AM - A Perfect Nurple: IIRC
- 5:15 AM - A Perfect Nurple: well, right now
- 5:15 AM - Chiral: she was also talking with one of the mods too from screenshots i saw on 4 chan back when it wasnt a hole
- 5:15 AM - A Perfect Nurple: yeah
- 5:16 AM - A Perfect Nurple: https://archive.today/4Ednx
- 5:16 AM - A Perfect Nurple: ^ that thread (only showing the relevant comment chain)
- 5:17 AM - A Perfect Nurple: a boston globe reporter shows up in a post that is nearly a full month old with a small amount of votes either way on it, and within hours 5 other subreddits link to it
- 5:17 AM - A Perfect Nurple: as well as some people linking on twitter
- 5:17 AM - A Perfect Nurple: and look at that insane amount of upvotes
- 5:17 AM - A Perfect Nurple: and the reddit gold
- 5:18 AM - A Perfect Nurple: (gift given by other users, generally in appreciation of the post)
- 5:18 AM - A Perfect Nurple: and look at the downvotes of some of the pro-gg responses
- 5:18 AM - A Perfect Nurple: it's all gotten more exaggerated since then, btw; that archive link is an hour or two old
- 5:19 AM - A Perfect Nurple: admins were notified, of course
- 5:19 AM - A Perfect Nurple: and one responded
- 5:19 AM - A Perfect Nurple: http://i.imgur.com/8f2zcQd.png
- 5:20 AM - A Perfect Nurple: however that admin, ocrasorm, might have a bit of an SJW bent. I'm not sure exactly, he's referenced in relation to banning a subreddit that some random SRS (ShitRedditSays-- the SJW hub for reddit) woman found offensive or some shit
- 5:21 AM - A Perfect Nurple: or maybe it was banning a person, I don't know
- 5:22 AM - A Perfect Nurple: (SRS is interesting, as an aside, 'cause it's a place that kind of actively encourages brigading-- each thread that is made links to a post that offends them and lists the current up/downvote numbers at the time of posting so they can all fuck with the numbers and marvel at their ability to collectively click on shit)
- 5:22 AM - A Perfect Nurple: (and it's for some reason not banned)
- 5:22 AM - Hisagi: https://8chan.co/v/src/1413796471585.webm
- 5:23 AM - Chiral: cause then youd be oppresing them obvs
- 5:23 AM - Ebola-chan: Who here a Goody Goodie?
- 5:23 AM - A Perfect Nurple: now, like I said
- 5:24 AM - A Perfect Nurple: bans are given for this sort of shit
- 5:24 AM - A Perfect Nurple: normally
- 5:24 AM - A Perfect Nurple: shadowbans in particular
- 5:24 AM - A Perfect Nurple: which are a type of ban where to the user, everything looks normal
- 5:24 AM - A Perfect Nurple: but no other users on the site can see their posts and their votes affect nothing
- 5:25 AM - A Perfect Nurple: it was started to combat spammers; if the spammers have no idea they've been banned, they keep spamming on that account instaed of creating a new one
- 5:25 AM - A Perfect Nurple: it seems to work pretty well for that, 'cause I've never actually seen spam on a reddit thread
- 5:25 AM - A Perfect Nurple: but it's occasionally used for non-spam reasons
- 5:26 AM - A Perfect Nurple: now, there was a screenshot of the original admin response
- 5:26 AM - A Perfect Nurple: there was another admin response which I haven't seen a screenshot or other actual proof of yet
- 5:26 AM - A Perfect Nurple: but the same guy who capped the first one said this:
- 5:26 AM - A Perfect Nurple: Edit Admin response.
- Yeah I have dealt with the vote brigading. We can not ban people, who are not subscribed to a subreddit, for commenting. The mods can ban them if they feel they are trolling/breaking rules. If they then evade subreddit bans we can take action.
- 5:27 AM - A Perfect Nurple: vote brigading = shadowban, but just commenting = no ban
- 5:27 AM - A Perfect Nurple: that's fair
- 5:27 AM - A Perfect Nurple: but what about this guy
- 5:27 AM - A Perfect Nurple: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2h36ue/another_poorlyresearched_hitpiece_from_the_boston/cle9pqb
- 5:27 AM - A Perfect Nurple: longbowrocks 10 points 6 hours ago
- Sorry I can only upvote once. ;_;
- 5:28 AM - A Perfect Nurple: http://www.reddit.com/user/longbowrocks
- 5:28 AM - A Perfect Nurple: I guess he didn't actually participate in the brigading by voting?
- 5:28 AM - A Perfect Nurple: he's not banned 'cause you can see his profile
- 5:28 AM - A Perfect Nurple: if he was banned you'd get a "user does not exist" message
- 5:28 AM - A Perfect Nurple: there are others
- 5:28 AM - A Perfect Nurple: you can check everyone who commented with anti-gg stuff in that thread
- 5:29 AM - A Perfect Nurple: if you have the time, you will probably see that the majority of them have never posted in KotakuInAction before
- 5:29 AM - A Perfect Nurple: and you may see activity in some of the anti-gg subreddits
- 5:29 AM - A Perfect Nurple: like GamerGhazi
- 5:29 AM - A Perfect Nurple: AgainstGamerGate
- 5:30 AM - A Perfect Nurple: BestOfOutrageCulture
- 5:30 AM - Chiral: yea it doesnt look like he has voted on anything else in KiA
- 5:30 AM - A Perfect Nurple: and apparently SubredditDrama
- 5:30 AM - A Perfect Nurple: or anythig with "SRS" in the title
- 5:30 AM - A Perfect Nurple: there's a whole network
- 5:31 AM - A Perfect Nurple: if I remember right they call themselves the femspiracy or some shit
- 5:31 AM - A Perfect Nurple: now
- 5:31 AM - A Perfect Nurple: a recap
- 5:31 AM - A Perfect Nurple: brigading happens
- 5:32 AM - A Perfect Nurple: more proof btw
- 5:32 AM - A Perfect Nurple: this posted by a mod and then censored for some reason
- 5:32 AM - A Perfect Nurple: http://i.imgur.com/uIrED3M.png
- 5:32 AM - A Perfect Nurple: and the dude who posted the highly upvoted comment linked to the thread on his twitter
- 5:32 AM - A Perfect Nurple: https://archive.today/8CNcQ
- 5:33 AM - A Perfect Nurple: it was also apparently linked on NeoGAF
- 5:33 AM - A Perfect Nurple: https://archive.today/POKfA
- 5:33 AM - Chiral: this is the upside of reddit over anon imageboards
- 5:33 AM - A Perfect Nurple: yeah
- 5:33 AM - Chiral: you can figure out whos fucking with you a lot easier
- 5:33 AM - A Perfect Nurple: although 8chan allows for some tracking of this shit
- 5:33 AM - A Perfect Nurple: 4chan probably did too
- 5:33 AM - A Perfect Nurple: but I never really visited
- 5:33 AM - A Perfect Nurple: anyway, brigading happens
- 5:34 AM - A Perfect Nurple: much proof
- 5:34 AM - A Perfect Nurple: admins say "we took care of it"
- 5:34 AM - A Perfect Nurple: brigaders remain unbanned
- 5:35 AM - A Perfect Nurple: meanwhile, pro-GG redditors get banned back in the early days of the movement for suspicion of the same thing
- 5:35 AM - A Perfect Nurple: https://imgur.com/a/f4WDf
- 5:35 AM - Peori entered chat.
- 5:35 AM - A Perfect Nurple: and oh fucking look, the admin that banned the pro-GG peeps was the very same who is looking into this vote brigading now
- 5:35 AM - A Perfect Nurple: http://i.imgur.com/dFIoxaZ.png
- 5:35 AM - A Perfect Nurple: Ocrasorm
- 5:36 AM - A Perfect Nurple: detailed story of that whole event here: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2gekjz/comprehensive_overview_of_gamergate_censorship_on/
- 5:36 AM - A Perfect Nurple: can't vouch for it 'cause I haven't read it but it's probably a good summary
- 5:36 AM - A Perfect Nurple: ..which I guess is me vouching for it? anyway
- 5:37 AM - Chiral: yea, welcome to how the world apparently is, SJW admins everywhere
- 5:37 AM - A Perfect Nurple: another fun connection, the dude who made the highly upvoted post? Jesse Singal
- 5:38 AM - A Perfect Nurple: the author of the article the original thread was about
- 5:38 AM - A Perfect Nurple: a Boston Globe writer
- 5:38 AM - A Perfect Nurple: https://archive.today/Sxcip#selection-641.3-641.15
- 5:38 AM - Legendsmith: I just don't know anymore
- 5:38 AM - Legendsmith: What's going on?
- 5:38 AM - Hisagi is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- 5:38 AM - A Perfect Nurple: I'll put all this into a pastebin or some shit in a second
- 5:38 AM - Legendsmith: Thanks
- 5:38 AM - Legendsmith: easier than reading 100 steam chat messages
- 5:39 AM - A Perfect Nurple: yeah
- 5:39 AM - A Perfect Nurple: now
- 5:39 AM - Legendsmith: “Depression Quest,” a well-regarded indie title
- 5:39 AM - Legendsmith: WELL
- 5:39 AM - Legendsmith: REGARDED
- 5:39 AM - Legendsmith: WELL REGARDED
- 5:39 AM - A Perfect Nurple: I know. But you've missed out on the truly interesting stuff if you haven't been reading until now
- 5:39 AM - A Perfect Nurple: today is monday
- 5:39 AM - Legendsmith: I haven't
- 5:40 AM - Legendsmith: I've been productive!
- 5:40 AM - Peori: they don't say who it's well regarded by :p
- 5:40 AM - Legendsmith: Heh
- 5:40 AM - A Perfect Nurple: the other day a LW or 2 promised a big 'black eye' for gamergate today
- 5:40 AM - A Perfect Nurple: people speculated a few things
- 5:40 AM - Legendsmith: heh
- 5:40 AM - Legendsmith: I managed to get my currently-nonfunctional moderator app to load in google hangouts
- 5:40 AM - Peori: like the eye of black cthulu?
- 5:40 AM - A Perfect Nurple: you jest
- 5:41 AM - A Perfect Nurple: but
- 5:41 AM - Legendsmith: Unassailably moderated debate soon, fellow gamergates
- 5:41 AM - A Perfect Nurple: there's a part of me that wonders if we aren't getting fucked over on reddit
- 5:41 AM - A Perfect Nurple: they could use this brigading situation as a reason to outright ban kotakuinaction
- 5:42 AM - Peori: we're getting fucked over everywhere
- 5:42 AM - A Perfect Nurple: leaving no pro-gamergate subs and like 6 anti ones
- 5:42 AM - Ebola-chan: What the fuck, is this guy real? He literally describes the Anti-GG side, but means us instead http://puu.sh/cjgum/d3615f9b20.png
- 5:42 AM - A Perfect Nurple: that would be a big 'black eye', no?
- 5:42 AM - A Perfect Nurple: KiA is one of the two big places to share info
- 5:43 AM - A Perfect Nurple: and the only one that isn't associated with a deeply tainted image for the average person
- 5:43 AM - A Perfect Nurple: reddit is awesome, everyone talks about reddit and knowingly shares shit from it
- 5:43 AM - A Perfect Nurple: the chans though, the imageboards, those are shady evil places where vans explode
- 5:44 AM - A Perfect Nurple: I don't want to be alarmist
- 5:44 AM - A Perfect Nurple: and this part is just speculation
- 5:44 AM - A Perfect Nurple: but there's definitely some shit happening; what the outcome will be, I don't know.
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