Roundtable 5/2/2014

[14:55] <+Xion4ever> Hey there, Shard.
[14:56] <ShardofTruth> Hi everyone:-)
[14:56] <Byzantinefire> Hello.
[14:56] <darkfalcon3274> HEI JUYS
[14:57] <darkfalcon3274> when we getting started
[14:58] <+Xion4ever> Is everyone good now, or is it too soon from the original [listed] time?
[14:59] <darkfalcon3274> which was what?
[14:59] <+Xion4ever> 7pm UTC
[15:00] <darkfalcon3274> which is 2 pm eastern?
[15:01] <darkfalcon3274> i think now's an acceptable start time
[15:01] <darkfalcon3274> if we're nopt waiting on anyone
[15:02] <+Xion4ever> Not that I know of...
[15:02] <darkfalcon3274> anyone have any objections?
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[15:03] <Byzantinefire> Well not at the present time.
[15:03] <+Xion4ever> Let's take this point by point, okay?
[15:03] <darkfalcon3274> you opened two different browser tabs, didn't you, Gexus?
[15:04] <darkfalcon3274> ok, let's do this thing, as the saying goes
[15:04] <Gexus_> I have no idea what I'm doing xD
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[15:05] <darkfalcon3274> you'll suvive
[15:05] <darkfalcon3274> *survive
[15:05] <darkfalcon3274> alrighty
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[15:06] <darkfalcon3274> first off, following up from last time, erry said KHI in interested in working with us
[15:07] <darkfalcon3274> which is damn cool
[15:07] <+Xion4ever> Heck yeah.
[15:07] <darkfalcon3274> he's AFK, but it wasn't much of a question
[15:08] <Ethy> I'm glad you guys think so lol we think it'll be pretty cool working with you guys
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[15:09] <darkfalcon3274> good deal
[15:12] <Ethy> I was talking to Erry about it but we didn't get too far into the specifics. I understand you guys would like to feature our news on your Wiki, but how would this be done? And what were you guys looking to get back from us in this deal?
[15:14] <darkfalcon3274> well, for one thing, turning over our Trinity Archives news feature
[15:15] <darkfalcon3274> having it be "powered by KH Insider" would be one goal
[15:16] <darkfalcon3274> granted, it's still an awfully slow time news-wise, but we haven't been as up-to-speed as we should be
[15:17] <darkfalcon3274> even things like the KHX events we haven't been covering
[15:17] <darkfalcon3274> on our news
[15:17] <ShardofTruth> I think it's possible to simply link the newsfeed of KHInsider in our Trinity Archives, at least with the right plugins.
[15:18] <Gexus_> so, something like RSS feeds?
[15:18] <+Luxerion|AFK> woops
[15:18] <+Luxerion|AFK> is it happening now?
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[15:18] <darkfalcon3274> HEY ERRY
[15:19] <darkfalcon3274> you didn't miss much
[15:19] <+Luxerion> hi
[15:20] <Ethy> Hey Erry
[15:21] <darkfalcon3274> so the question is largely on the other side, am i right?
[15:23] <darkfalcon3274> i.e. what can we contribute to you guys?
[15:24] <Ethy> Yeah
[15:25] <+Luxerion> well, if khi is going to offer their journalism to us, what would khi think is an equal resource to theirs?
[15:29] <darkfalcon3274> we have the information in our articles, and we have editors
[15:30] <darkfalcon3274> i imagine the most likely question would be, would there be something you would like from our editors?
[15:30] <Gexus_> before we properly discuss that, just to clarify, were you thinking of just implementing the KHI RSS feed to your trinity archive?
[15:31] <darkfalcon3274> would it be that simple?
[15:33] <ShardofTruth> I know it's possible, displaying the news needs a bit more testing though.
[15:34] <Gexus_> Yeah, we'd need to figure out how it's done, I suppose
[15:36] <darkfalcon3274> so we'll ask porplemontage
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[15:36] <ShardofTruth> The hardest part is really just to display the things you want. I imagined it would be the date, a headline with the link to your site and a reasonable excerpt..
[15:36] <Gexus_> yeah, right
[15:37] <Gexus_> exactly
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[15:37] <Gexus_> I suppose if we can agree on that and discuss how to implement that further, we can talk about the next subject
[15:38] <darkfalcon3274> we'll research it
[15:38] <darkfalcon3274> or get porple to do it
[15:38] <Gexus_> sorry, I meant, if we could discuss how to implement that properly later
[15:39] <darkfalcon3274> alright
[15:39] <darkfalcon3274> so next item?
[15:39] <Gexus_> right
[15:40] <darkfalcon3274> ...oh lord, the next item
[15:40] <darkfalcon3274> fine
[15:40] <darkfalcon3274> byz
[15:40] <Byzantinefire> Oh right Affiliations with Disney Wiki.
[15:40] <darkfalcon3274> how's it going with that
[15:40] <Byzantinefire> Well i will get dork here right now.
[15:42] <+Xion4ever> While he's doing that...Thanks again, KHI guys. ^_^
[15:42] <Byzantinefire> http://community.wikia.com/wiki/WAM_Hall_of_Fame
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[15:43] <darkfalcon3274> ok?
[15:43] <darkfalcon3274> mazal tov?
[15:43] <darkfalcon3274> it's pretty cool
[15:43] <Gexus_> I'm sorry, I think they're having a bad connection at the moment
[15:44] <Gexus_> anyway
[15:44] <Byzantinefire> Well Disney Wiki has grown alot this year especially with the purchase of Star Wars and Marvel.
[15:45] <darkfalcon3274> was that this year?
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[15:45] <Byzantinefire> Last year and this year.
[15:46] <darkfalcon3274> ok, so can you summarize the situation?
[15:46] <darkfalcon3274> since we're just sitting here
[15:47] <darkfalcon3274> if not, we can come back to this
[15:47] <Byzantinefire> Well i figured KHWiki might be a grear asset to Disney Wiki.
[15:48] <Byzantinefire> and viceversa.
[15:48] <+Luxerion> hey fm
[15:49] <FifteenthMember> I'm here!
[15:49] <FifteenthMember> Hi guys
[15:49] <Byzantinefire> *great
[15:49] <darkfalcon3274> what kind of assest/assest
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[15:51] <Byzantinefire> Well Kingdom Hearts is mostly Disney and there are more than 20,000 pages on Disney Wiki right now.
[15:51] <FifteenthMember> Sorry to go back guys, but about the partnership with KHI: If there's nothing explicit that we can offer to KHI, I'd like to point out that we're still going to provide "free advertisement" with the Trinity Archives
[15:51] <FifteenthMember> So at least that's something solid we can give
[15:52] <Byzantinefire> http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Topic:Kingdom_Hearts_(series)
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[15:54] <FifteenthMember> wb NZ
[15:54] <darkfalcon3274> i didn't really leave
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[15:54] <+Xion4ever> Bad link, Byzantinefire.
[15:54] <darkfalcon3274> i just refreshed IRC on my phone
[15:54] <Byzantinefire> What so you mean Bad link?
[15:55] <darkfalcon3274> FM, do you have anything to say about the current status of things at DW?
[15:55] <+Xion4ever> The link says the topic does not exist on the Disney Wiki.
[15:56] <FifteenthMember> Well, I've be honest
[15:56] <FifteenthMember> *I'll
[15:56] <darkfalcon3274> the closing ) wasn't included in the link
[15:56] <Byzantinefire> Oh i see.
[15:56] <FifteenthMember> I haven't really been checking up much on the DisneyWiki lately
[15:56] <FifteenthMember> (Too much time with Skyrim)
[15:56] <darkfalcon3274> http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Topic:Kingdom_Hearts_(series)
[15:56] <darkfalcon3274> nope. still didn't work
[15:56] <darkfalcon3274> copy-paste
[15:56] <FifteenthMember> So we really need to ask KSM since he's active there, I believe
[15:57] <darkfalcon3274> right
[15:57] <Byzantinefire> http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Kingdom_Hearts Well maybe just this then.
[15:57] <FifteenthMember> I can't comment on the affiliation with the Disney Wiki, though, since my opinions would be bias
[15:58] <FifteenthMember> given my past interactions with their staff.
[15:58] <FifteenthMember> I'm guessing KSM will come to the RT later since his school finishes about now, if I recall correctly
[15:59] <FifteenthMember> So should we postpone this agenda point for later this roundtable?
[15:59] <Byzantinefire> Might as well i'm choking up.
[15:59] <darkfalcon3274> the template looks horrible in monobook
[15:59] <darkfalcon3274> and i'm not changing my skin :P
[16:00] <Byzantinefire> Well it looks alright in skin.
[16:00] <Pea14733> It looks horrible even in Oasis
[16:00] <+Xion4ever> Along with KSM, it wouldn't hurt for some Disney Wikia staff to drop in.
[16:00] <Pea14733> Especially the background
[16:01] <+Xion4ever> *for that discussion
[16:01] <FifteenthMember> Here you go NZ
[16:01] <FifteenthMember> http://i.imgur.com/7zKhEIj.png
[16:02] <Byzantinefire> Its a good background its for May the 4th.
[16:02] <darkfalcon3274> "objects"?
[16:02] <FifteenthMember> NZ, plot items
[16:03] <FifteenthMember> They pretty much all either link to this page
[16:03] <FifteenthMember> http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Universe_of_Kingdom_Hearts
[16:03] <FifteenthMember> Or that page
[16:03] <darkfalcon3274> if they're plot items, they should be under Universe or Plot Elements
[16:03] <darkfalcon3274> sea-salt ice cream isn't
[16:03] <FifteenthMember> http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Black_coat#Black_Coat
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[16:04] <FifteenthMember> Sea salt ice cream is a thing in Disney Parks too, though
[16:04] <FifteenthMember> I think that's why it's still there
[16:04] <Byzantinefire> Thank you for coming Dork.
[16:04] <FifteenthMember> Wait, what?
[16:05] <FifteenthMember> http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Plot_Elements_in_Kingdom_Hearts?diff=1161148&oldid=1160782
[16:05] <darkfalcon3274> byz...
[16:05] <FifteenthMember> We agreed that the Disney Wiki didn't need the entire transcript of every letter written by Mickey
[16:05] <Byzantinefire> Well you agreed.
[16:05] * FifteenthMember sighes
[16:06] <FifteenthMember> *sighs
[16:06] <darkfalcon3274> play nice, byz
[16:06] <darkfalcon3274> seriously
[16:06] <Byzantinefire> Fine i will just remove it.
[16:06] <Disneydork> I'm really not completely sure why I'm here XD
[16:07] <Disneydork> Byz just asked me to come
[16:07] <FifteenthMember> I'm going back on what I said earlier. It's repeated behaviour like this which makes me reluctant to affiliate with Disney Wiki :<
[16:07] <+Xion4ever> @Disneydork: Staff input on this discussion. That, and another voice for the Disney Wiki.
[16:07] <darkfalcon3274> we are kinda hoping for an update
[16:07] <darkfalcon3274> KSM isn't here
[16:08] <Disneydork> @FifteenthMember I understand and we've been working on it slowly (albeit slower than you and I both wish)
[16:08] <darkfalcon3274> byz didn't really tell us how things are going
[16:08] <darkfalcon3274> so, yeah
[16:08] <Byzantinefire> Because i was unsure and nervious.
[16:09] <darkfalcon3274> if you can tell us how things are going, that'd be at least three kinds of awesome
[16:10] <Disneydork> I know I've added the KHWiki template to images that we borrowed
[16:10] <Byzantinefire> Well i added the KHWikiGallery template to most of the galleries.
[16:10] <darkfalcon3274> nice
[16:10] <Disneydork> and a couple users (myself included) have reworded some of the pages
[16:11] <Byzantinefire> http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Mickey_Mouse/Gallery/Video_Games
[16:12] <FifteenthMember> I'm going to ask a question.
[16:12] <FifteenthMember> Why does the Disney Wiki want an affiliation with us?
[16:12] <FifteenthMember> As in, what do you want to gain out of it and how will it benefit us?
[16:13] <Byzantinefire> Its i that wants the affiliation i want KHWiki to acnoledge Disney Wiki.
[16:14] <Neumannz> The question stays the same
[16:14] <FifteenthMember> And the second part to the question, please: How will it benefit us?
[16:14] <Disneydork> well for one, I hope that kh wiki users will check out the disney wiki as well as disney users checking out the KH wiki
[16:14] <Disneydork> you're logo will be on the affiliations section on the front page of the wiki
[16:14] <Byzantinefire> Nicely said Dork.
[16:14] <Neumannz> You know, we've never really done External Links, have we
[16:15] <FifteenthMember> Nothing apart from links to SE websites
[16:16] <Neumannz> Wouldn't hurt to start doing that for characters
[16:16] <Byzantinefire> Also Disney Wiki has more information on Disney characters than KHWiki as well shorts, films and tv shows.
[16:17] <Neumannz> Did we ever sort things out with FF wiki?
[16:17] <Byzantinefire> http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/The_Sorcerer's_Apprentice for example.
[16:17] <FifteenthMember> What happened with the FF Wiki?
[16:18] <+Luxerion> well, i think its just, ffwiki links to khwikia then khwikia links to us and that's how it works, i remember i switched it once and ffwiki had a talk amongst themselves and it just stuck with the khwikia i think
[16:18] <FifteenthMember> Oh
[16:18] <Neumannz> 9_9
[16:18] <Neumannz> Whatever
[16:19] <FifteenthMember> I'm going to raise another worry I have about affiliating with DisneyWiki
[16:19] <FifteenthMember> And I'm hoping everyone will take it with understanding. I don't want to offend anyone.
[16:20] <Neumannz> I AM IMMEDIATELY OFFENDED
[16:20] <Disneydork> go on
[16:20] <FifteenthMember> In my opinion, Wikipedia has a higher quality of writing and professionalism than DisneyWiki
[16:21] <Disneydork> I'm glad we agree :P
[16:21] <Disneydork> DisneyWiki has been expanding and growing, no doubt, but there are tons of pages that still need work
[16:21] <FifteenthMember> And considering the KHWiki's initial aims were to be independant and display extensive information professionally
[16:22] <FifteenthMember> The DisneyWiki sort of "morals and ethics" doesn't suit ours.
[16:22] <Neumannz> That's the wrong term, I think
[16:22] <FifteenthMember> For example, we broke away from Wikia while DisneyWiki aims to be top in its WAM charts
[16:22] <Disneydork> can you explain what you mean by that?
[16:23] <FifteenthMember> I guess, I mean "goals"
[16:23] <Byzantinefire> Well its improved in terms of morals.
[16:23] <+Xion4ever> We can't hold it against them for staying with Wikia. That is solely their decision; we have no say in that.
[16:23] <FifteenthMember> or motives. I can't think of a right word :<
[16:23] <+Xion4ever> He means the whole stealing articles from other Wikis/us.
[16:23] <+Xion4ever> *articles, images- anything/everything
[16:23] <FifteenthMember> Xion, I don't mean that
[16:23] <+Xion4ever> ?
[16:23] <Neumannz> Goals/motives works
[16:23] <Byzantinefire> Well most of that has be retified Xion.
[16:23] <FifteenthMember> I mean DisneyWiki's goal of being the biggest with the most amount of pages
[16:24] <+Xion4ever> There we go.
[16:24] <FifteenthMember> While we focus on quality over quantity
[16:24] <Byzantinefire> Well that is just a bonus.
[16:24] <Neumannz> "Priorities"
[16:24] <Byzantinefire> I want both quality and quantity.
[16:24] <Disneydork> @FifteenthMember I understand what you mean by now
[16:24] <Disneydork> by that*
[16:24] <Neumannz> That's the word you wanted
[16:24] <FifteenthMember> NZ, yes!
[16:25] <+Luxerion> i think the problem with copying articles directly is that wikia doesn't allow you to delete pages willy nilly, i.e. when we tried removing khwikia
[16:25] <Disneydork> I mean we can't just purge the wiki of sub-par pages, but we have to find a system to improve
[16:26] <Neumannz> True
[16:26] <Neumannz> Stuff takes time
[16:26] <Neumannz> I do not envy your position
[16:27] <FifteenthMember> In my opinion: there's no rush to become affiliated
[16:27] <FifteenthMember> So, take time to work out a system and do whatever that is needed to do
[16:28] <Neumannz> Do you think we should revisit this regularly?
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[16:28] <Byzantinefire> I suppose.
[16:29] <Disneydork> yeah. I don't feel a huge rush, though I could see it in the future
[16:30] <Neumannz> It could be nice being able to link character articles
[16:30] <Disneydork> we can begin work on fixing articles
[16:30] <FifteenthMember> Once the Disney Wiki editors believe they sorted everything out, they can approach us again and we can make a refined decision?
[16:30] <FifteenthMember> NZ, link to them in the origin section instead of Wikipedia?
[16:30] <FifteenthMember> Or as an "External Link"
[16:31] <Neumannz> External links
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[16:31] <Neumannz> The way Wikipedia would do it
[16:31] <Byzantinefire> Well i also want more users from here like Ninjashiek.
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[16:31] <Neumannz> You mean quality control-types?
[16:31] <+Cheisa> so whats been discuss so far
[16:32] <Neumannz> We talked khi partnership, now we're doing Disney
[16:32] <+Cheisa> so khi ended up being?
[16:33] <+Cheisa> *how did
[16:33] <Neumannz> We're going to look into linking a feed directly to the trinity archives
[16:33] <Byzantinefire> Well yeah.
[16:35] <+Cheisa> alright
[16:36] <Neumannz> Well, I don't know, you'll have to see who has interest
[16:36] <Neumannz> Politely
[16:36] <Neumannz> And only ask once
[16:37] <Disneydork> if that's all, I'll be going now
[16:37] <Neumannz> ok
[16:38] <Neumannz> Any other points anyone wants to make on this?
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[16:42] <Neumannz> Alrighty then
[16:42] <Neumannz> Next item?
[16:42] <+Xion4ever> End of Year Event 2014
[16:44] <+Luxerion> alrighty, we need a format for the end of year events
[16:46] <+Luxerion> are we gonna do them every two years? when exactly should they start and end? what kinds of things do we want to do? ones with prizes, ones w/o? etc. stuff like that
[16:46] <FifteenthMember> brb
[16:47] <+Luxerion> that's only if we plan to go along with making them something we want to commit to, otherwise we should just do them whenever we feel like.
[16:48] <+Xion4ever> I think that all depends on who/how many people help out with the event, right?
[16:51] <+Luxerion> yeah, although, we should have a relatively small group working on the event, so that a lot of people can join
[16:51] <+Xion4ever> Right.
[16:52] <+Xion4ever> I was going to say, depending on the users, using that information you could decide the time.
[16:53] <+Xion4ever> Every two years gives you a decent amount of time to plan/work/etc. However, if you have a strong small group or a lot of help, you might decide against having the extra time.
[16:54] <Neumannz> Yeah
[16:54] <+Luxerion> i think i'll just post up this issue on a forum and see what i get from there
[16:54] <Neumannz> Or rotating teams
[16:54] <Neumannz> *alternating
[16:55] <Neumannz> Sure
[16:56] <Neumannz> So what can we settle here
[16:59] <+Luxerion> i think what i want to know now is that, our prizes, what are we going to give out if its a competition against users rather than within the kh universe (a la keyblade war).
[17:00] <Neumannz> Admin privileges for a week ;p
[17:01] <+Luxerion> wow
[17:01] <+Luxerion> lol
[17:01] <+Xion4ever> Ha, we used to do that on here with op powers.
[17:04] <+Luxerion> how about one of the rules of being on the group is that you chip in towards a cash prize or something? we could do amazon vouchers?
[17:05] <+Xion4ever> Sounds fair.
[17:07] <+Luxerion> alright, i'll note these down and make a forum later on, lets move onto the next thing on the agenda
[17:08] <+Luxerion> 'MegaProject: Arise update?' reaaaaally not sure about this because not much has been done apart from trying to get people to projects.
[17:08] <+Xion4ever> I can update on what I've been doing on the image part, but I think you guys have seen the work from the Recent Changes.
[17:09] <+Xion4ever> Oh, I created a "what is left to do" for two of the projects. Feel free to add to/delete/whatever. http://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=Forum:Updating_our_Projects&t=20140425220633#Project_Details
[17:10] <+Xion4ever> Other than that, I've got nothing.
[17:11] <darkfalcon3274> what do we need?
[17:11] <+Xion4ever> On?
[17:13] <darkfalcon3274> for moving projects along
[17:14] <+Xion4ever> Just more people working on them, I suppose.
[17:14] <+Luxerion> basically, yeah
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[17:14] <+Xion4ever> Ah, here we go. Just in time, Keyblade.
[17:15] <FifteenthMember> HI
[17:15] <KeybladeSpyMaste> How late am I?
[17:15] <FifteenthMember> Im back
[17:15] <+Xion4ever> We're wrapping up the MegaProject: Arise update.
[17:15] <darkfalcon3274> couple hours
[17:15] <+Xion4ever> *topic
[17:16] <KeybladeSpyMaste> oh, cool
[17:16] <+Xion4ever> Anything you'd like to add?
[17:16] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Not much. Um, don't know if its been mentioned, but the Home Project (what I named the Main Page Project) kind of slowed down
[17:18] <darkfalcon3274> what do you need?
[17:18] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Right now, a discussion. It started pretty well, at first.
[17:19] <KeybladeSpyMaste> then it kind of died. http://www.khwiki.com/Forum:MegaProject:_Arise_-_Main_Page_Revamp
[17:20] <+Xion4ever> This is going to take time. We don't have a lot of people editing the Wiki as a whole anyways.
[17:20] <+Xion4ever> School vacations are coming up for a lot of US editors, maybe that will help.
[17:21] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Well, I don't mean right now. It's more of a "Remember that this is going on too" kind of deal.
[17:22] <KeybladeSpyMaste> That was all, it's more a reminder than anything.
[17:23] <darkfalcon3274> ok
[17:23] <+Xion4ever> Next topic is Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide.
[17:24] <+Luxerion> nez's.
[17:24] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Too late, I'm graduating. Could of used that last year.
[17:24] <KeybladeSpyMaste> :)
[17:24] <+Xion4ever> </ref>
[17:26] <darkfalcon3274> ok
[17:26] <darkfalcon3274> so
[17:27] <darkfalcon3274> guys
[17:27] <darkfalcon3274> i wanna do something for kryten
[17:27] <darkfalcon3274> kind of a send-off
[17:28] <+Xion4ever> Hell yes.
[17:28] <darkfalcon3274> i wanted to gauge interest
[17:28] <darkfalcon3274> i have an idea about a comic
[17:28] <darkfalcon3274> if we can get someone to do it
[17:29] <darkfalcon3274> maybe commission an artist
[17:29] <+Luxerion> well, with the right materials, i could make one using khmobile/recoded stuffs
[17:31] <darkfalcon3274> hmmm, maybe
[17:32] <darkfalcon3274> a sprite comic could be interesting
[17:32] <darkfalcon3274> anyway, i have a vague idea of a script
[17:33] <darkfalcon3274> the short version is, comic-us are doing the roundtable in a boardroom
[17:33] <darkfalcon3274> we get to an agenda item regarding kryten's signing off
[17:34] <FifteenthMember> Yes NZ
[17:34] <FifteenthMember> I was thinking the same
[17:34] <darkfalcon3274> some of us give some short thoughts/feelings about kryten leaving
[17:35] <darkfalcon3274> someone says something about it being an end of an era
[17:35] <darkfalcon3274> i (sorry) give a short speech about how we will stay committed to the quality kryten
[17:35] <darkfalcon3274> *kryten's always represented
[17:36] <darkfalcon3274> and in the end i retire kryten's swively office room chair to a "hall of fame" type room
[17:37] <darkfalcon3274> and say something about keeping the seat warm for him
[17:37] <FifteenthMember> Perfect
[17:38] <+Xion4ever> I'm game.
[17:38] <FifteenthMember> I'd imagine the tone would be a more happy and jokey one rather than a sad and regretful one though
[17:40] <darkfalcon3274> i kinda imagined it in the style of El Goonish Shive
[17:41] <darkfalcon3274> which is a good balance, i think
[17:41] <FifteenthMember> I don't know what that is
[17:41] <darkfalcon3274> www.egscomics.com
[17:41] <FifteenthMember> Yeah, that looks fine
[17:41] <darkfalcon3274> i don't know if the artist does commissions, but if there was interest i could ask him
[17:41] <+Xion4ever> That would be cool.
[17:41] <FifteenthMember> We'd want to keep this as a surprise for KK though right?
[17:42] <+Xion4ever> I don't see why not
[17:42] <darkfalcon3274> it's unlikely he'll drop in to see it, but yeah
[17:42] <FifteenthMember> Meaning, we'd want to limit any talk about it on the Wiki and keep it for the IRC
[17:42] <darkfalcon3274> *to see that we're doing it
[17:42] <darkfalcon3274> mmhm
[17:43] <+Xion4ever> I've gotta go.
[17:43] <FifteenthMember> I could do a "short thought/feeling about kryten leaving" cos he taught me 70% of what I know on the Wiki
[17:44] <+Xion4ever> If you guys finalize/decide what you need from us users (money, comments, whatever) let me know.
[17:44] <darkfalcon3274> sure
[17:44] <+Xion4ever> Since we're wanting this off Wiki and I can't guarantee any active IRC time, feel free to Facebook or email me.
[17:44] <darkfalcon3274> ok
[17:44] <+Xion4ever> This is a good idea though. Really nice. ^_^
[17:45] <+Xion4ever> I'll see you guys later.
[17:45] <Sora1995> oh, the RT
[17:45] <Sora1995> did i miss it? :S
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[17:45] <darkfalcon3274> we'll need to see who wants in on this so i can actually write a script
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[17:45] <darkfalcon3274> FM, it would be great if you could do a thing
[17:46] <FifteenthMember> Yeah, I'd be happy to do something
[17:46] <darkfalcon3274> erry?
[17:46] <FifteenthMember> How long do you want it to be? A short quip or a few paragraphs?
[17:48] <darkfalcon3274> anyway, i'll need to decide who to include as characters (including maybe a basic design), and i'll need some blurbs to incorporate
[17:48] <darkfalcon3274> short-ish, i think
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[17:48] <darkfalcon3274> since i want a bunch of them
[17:48] <FifteenthMember> Okay
[17:48] <+Luxerion> yes?
[17:49] <darkfalcon3274> would you be able to do a blurb?
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[17:50] <+Dragoon> blurb?
[17:50] <darkfalcon3274> yes
[17:50] <FifteenthMember> NZ, once you've worked out the details, email me the instructions for what I have to do.
[17:50] <darkfalcon3274> a short thing about kryten
[17:51] <darkfalcon3274> that i can work into the script
[17:53] <+Dragoon> alright
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[17:53] <darkfalcon3274> doesn't have to be now
[17:54] <FifteenthMember> I haven't been here long enough but would be worth if anyone from the Keyhole wants to do a blurb?
[17:54] <darkfalcon3274> i'll start outlining first
[17:54] <darkfalcon3274> if they can
[17:54] <FifteenthMember> Since they probably knew KK from before the merge.
[17:55] <darkfalcon3274> i'd prefer editors who spend time here, just because it makes sense to put them into the roundtable scenario, but it doesn't have to be
[17:55] <FifteenthMember> That's okay too
[17:56] <FifteenthMember> To keep things light-hearted, let's add a joke with the roundtable scenario
[17:56] <FifteenthMember> Like, do something funny with the agenda point that comes up before KK's one
[17:56] <FifteenthMember> That also sets the roundtable scene.
[17:57] <Neumannz> Sure
[18:00] <darkfalcon3274> anyway, in the meantime, we'll need to check with people
[18:01] <darkfalcon3274> see who wants in
[18:01] <FifteenthMember> It's good that we're doing something for KK because with all the stuff he did, he deserves more than a few goodbye messages.
[18:02] <darkfalcon3274> mmhm
[18:02] <darkfalcon3274> so that's that bit
[18:02] <darkfalcon3274> next item?
[18:03] <FifteenthMember> Err, FU images
[18:03] <darkfalcon3274> heheheh
[18:03] <darkfalcon3274> "FU"
[18:03] <FifteenthMember> lol
[18:03] <FifteenthMember> "In case I can't make it, I want to throw in my thoughts. This is simply a suggestion/question on whether we should use the same featured user award image, or make a new one. I've made a draft of one I just put together on Wednesday here (note the colors can be altered), and I made one for this month with the old format. FM has made a new nomination, noting that Shard made a different
[18:03] <FifteenthMember> version for MEX in the past (the little "Birthday Medal" is here), and we could do something like that. It's more a simple "Do we want to change it or leave it alone?" kind of topic."
[18:04] <FifteenthMember> I'm so/so about it.
[18:04] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Like I said, minor detail/question, just a suggestion.
[18:04] <FifteenthMember> We can change it if we want but I don't mind leaving it as it is too
[18:04] <darkfalcon3274> we could change it every so often, not every time
[18:05] <darkfalcon3274> once or twice a year, maybe?
[18:05] <FifteenthMember> Or arbitarily?
[18:05] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Well, I didn't mean every time. I just meant from here on, we use a different one from the one we've used in the past (i.e. we simply replace the existing medal)
[18:06] <FifteenthMember> If we do that, we need to update the banner
[18:06] <FifteenthMember> http://www.khwiki.com/images/5/53/FeaturedUserHeader.png
[18:06] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I doubt that'd be too hard.
[18:07] <KeybladeSpyMaste> We'd just use the old one and the new one, and alternate (old, new, old, new, etc.)
[18:07] <FifteenthMember> KSM's one looks good
[18:08] <FifteenthMember> I don't think we should alternate between them
[18:08] <+Dragoon> i feel like it should be changed
[18:08] <+Dragoon> entirely
[18:09] <+Dragoon> from the old fu image, because the older one is an upscaled version of a mirage arena icon
[18:09] <darkfalcon3274> fair point
[18:10] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Huh, I didn't even notice that.
[18:10] <FifteenthMember> Seeing as the Wiki seems to be beginning a new time period with the revival of these community projects and KK's leave, the new FU image would be used for all FUs starting now
[18:10] <FifteenthMember> So starting from Ultima Spark
[18:10] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Yeah, that's what I meant.
[18:10] <KeybladeSpyMaste> By alternating them, I meant for the header.
[18:11] <darkfalcon3274> ok
[18:12] <+Dragoon> well, i think we should just altogether get a new header :/
[18:13] <FifteenthMember> That means I'll get the old badge :D
[18:14] <FifteenthMember> Cos I didn't get my badge from September 2012 :P
[18:15] <KeybladeSpyMaste> That's another thing. FM and LightRoxas (the last one to actually get his name on the home page) didn't get their badges. Do we give them the new ones? (I say yes, or leave it up to them)
[18:16] <+Dragoon> new ones
[18:16] <+Dragoon> we should just get rid of the old one and, if we're going to leave it, keep it just for archiving's sake
[18:17] <FifteenthMember> I kinda want the old one if you guys don't mind cos it marks the end of the 2012 era of FUs and also
[18:17] <FifteenthMember> It matches my userpage colour :P
[18:18] <KeybladeSpyMaste> The other important part of it is: what should the new one look like. Like FM mentioned, I made a draft/concept I liked.
[18:25] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Ok, I've got to go. Have a mother's day activity I've got to get to.
[18:25] <darkfalcon3274> ok
[18:25] <KeybladeSpyMaste> If you guys need me to make the image, just message me on my talk page.
[18:25] <darkfalcon3274> anything else to cover?
[18:26] <darkfalcon3274> KSM, you wanna do a blurb?
[18:26] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Nope, that's it as far as that topic goes. I'll have to get back to you on that, NZ, but I don't see why not.
[18:26] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Yeah, I'll do a blurb
[18:26] <darkfalcon3274> cool
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[18:27] <darkfalcon3274> alright, any final business?
[18:27] <darkfalcon3274> that was the last agenda item
[18:27] <darkfalcon3274> i need to go in a second, too
[18:28] <FifteenthMember> No, I don't think so
[18:28] <FifteenthMember> Nice rt toady
[18:28] <FifteenthMember> *today
[18:28] <darkfalcon3274> anybody logging?
[18:28] <FifteenthMember> Dragoon?
[18:30] <darkfalcon3274> ...should i do it, then?
[18:30] <FifteenthMember> Sure, unless anyone objects
[18:31] <darkfalcon3274> ok, done