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- >Twilight's existence revolving around good student
- That's a massive exagerration. She's usually reading, studying, helping her friends, going to trade days... As for studying, that's what she'd do with her own time, anyways.
- >Crystal Empire
- Look, I've covered this already and told you why she would be unwise to handle it herself, with 4 different points, none of which you've even acknowledged. I'm not going to repeat myself. I refer you back to my previous comment.
- >Making it worse
- So, sending an omnipotent ally to solve a problem is making the problem worse?
- >Random unicorn
- Because you said saving the world is too much stress on Twilight. As to your other questions, see: "Crystal Empire" and "Making it worse"
- >sold up the river
- And that reflects poorly on Celestia, how? Need-to-know basis, keeping info secret because it could end the world if your enemies find out - it's pretty normal stuff.
- >Celestia's strength.
- Those are random numbers. Your arguments are only that Celestia's powerful - not that she's far more powerful than Twilight, so it does nothing to refute my point that Twilight isn't far behind Celestia in terms of power. Celestia moves the sun because it's her talent, but she's still not god-tier, or she could easily solve every problem herself, wouldn't have been defeated by Chrysalis, and could've defeated Tirek.
- And more importantly, aside from her special talent of raising the sun, everything else she's done isn't too far off from the sorts of things Twilight has done. Celestia made it so Discord couldn't steal the Elements, but it was Twilight and co. who actually wielded them, who Celestia HAD to rely on to defeat him - because her and her friends, were actually more powerful and could do something that Celestia couldn't - defeat Discord. And defeat Nightmare Moon, for that matter. Or save the world from those plunder-seed-vines. Or defeat Tirek.
- HECK, Celestia wasn't being lazy and making Twilight do things for her - Celestia couldn't do any of those things. NMM presumably defeated her, she was powerless against Discord and the Changelings, she was taken by the vines, and selflessly sacrificed her magic to Twilight so Tirek couldn't take it. The one thing she could've done - the Crystal Empire - I've offered 4 points on why she would be unwise to, none of which you've replied to. 5, if you count the "she assessed the risk and trusted that Twilight could handle it, so she couldn't really do any better than Twilight" point. Which she pretty much outright stated in the first 5 minutes of the episode. "I am confident you can do this." "What if I fail?" "You won't."
- As for the Glimmerventure, the opener was the map calling them there, and presumably Celestia didn't even know about the town, and in the finale, she was never given an opportunity to respond at all. Not even mentioning that Twilight's her own princess now, to boot.
- >Lessons
- And you're really great at spinning them in a horrible negative light that isn't reflective at all of what happened.
- >Metaphor
- Your comments are insubstantial.
- >Replacement
- You made up some stuff about Celestia then proceeded to bash her about it. Good job. Just make sure to leave some straw for the ponies.
- >RR
- Now I'm confused. What are you even talking about? The "we can't send your friends across, too?" Twilight found a way to open the portal at will, not to send everyone across at once, and Spike is hardly equivalent to 5 other ponies - especially in biomass terms.
- >Sociality, making friends
- Celestia was helping her study. She told Twilight to make friends. Well, even then, Twilight mostly ignored it, which is actually a pretty good indication that, yes, Twilight did ignore her advisement, and even continued to do so when she got to Ponyville and kept trying to brush the rest of the mane 6 off.
- >Non-insane options
- See: "Crystal Empire"
- >Sombra alone
- Moondancer broke down in front of her, not the other way around... This has more to do with Twilight caring a tremendous amount about tests. Have you ever actually seen, been around, or even been one of those straight-A students who care a lot? Yeah. That's a personality thing, not Celestia's fault.
- >[You're] insane.
- For making a rhetorical, sarcastic remark meant to illustrate that if you carefully know a situation it's not needless endangerment because you know the risk is very low, because your measures to handle it are sufficient?
- >Messaging.
- There's misinformation here. I want to shoot it down in case someone else catches it.
- >only an completely egotistical douche would do that. True, one has to make a solid case...
- So, you strongly disagreed, then in the next sentence you repeated basically what I was saying...
- >Predictions
- The stuff about Celestia isn't predictions. It's interpretations.
- As for Celestia, no, I just detest this ridiculously pessimistic interpret-everything-as-terribly-as-possible attitude. It would be death and stupidity if I didn't have solid grounding, but I do.
- It would be bias if I had to intentionally mis-interpret things in ways they were obviously not meant to be interpreted to make my points stand, but unlike you, I don't have to do that to make my points. Not only that, but I could even end this entire discussion now by just citing how Celestia's /supposed/ to be portrayed, how she's obviously meant to come off as, despite the writers' effectiveness at portraying her that way.
- But instead of arguing how she's supposed to come off as, I've decided to go a step further and argue how she actually comes off as.
- And, so, wait, not caring much about something but being vaguely optimistic is a strawman position?
- >In general
- So, can you offer any actual back up for your claims, or do I have to keep explaining what happened canonically?
- I suggest you take a short break from fanfics, forums, etc., and actually see what the canonical show itself is like.
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