The latest in Dom5: C'tis, Yomi

[13:26]	Guile113	Huh, EA Ctis nerf
[13:26]	Guile113	I mean, relatively, there's only so much more you can do to those guys
[13:27]	Guile113	Sacred serpents are not a recruitable: they can only be summon ally'd by Lizard Kings in a temple
[13:27]	Ironybot	...but why did EA C'tis need nerfing?
[13:28]	Guile113	It works that way for all Ctis now, but MA and LA pretty much ignore the serpents, so...
[13:32]	Ironybot	Well, maybe they'll get something else to make up for it. Or not, and just suffer.
[13:41]	Guile113	So far, just suffer: but they do have like 6+ weeks of beta
[13:42]	Guile113	Oh, Ctis got Swimming
[13:42]	Guile113	So they can ford rivers in summer
[13:42]	Guile113	Oh, did I disclose how New Yomi works?
[13:42]	Guile113	It turned them into an entirely different gimmick nation
[13:43]	Ironybot	Is this replacing old Yomi, or...?
[13:43]	Guile113	Yeah, they're 'fixing' it
[13:43]	Guile113	Well, not entirely different, I misspoke
[13:44]	Ironybot	I liked Yomi...
[13:44]	Guile113	So now, Yomi takes a 25% income hit, and can't recruit oni: so the 75% income is just for Hanyas and Bandits.
[13:44]	Guile113	Irony, you'll always have dom4 Yomi
[13:45]	Ironybot	...
[13:45]	Guile113	Instead, temple provinces will produce Oni, freespawn style. Not a ton: a couple of oni per turn, plus heat scales produce the fire oni and cold scales the cold oni
[13:45]	Guile113	Mountain temples produce like an extra oni a turn
[13:46]	Guile113	So your heartland will be all-temples, which honestly it probably already was to push Yomi's turmoil dominion
[13:47]	Guile113	So the temples kind of work with Yomi's established plan of 'infinite temples, turtle until can push outward with onis
[13:47]	Guile113	Which honestly I kind of hate that onis have to use that strategy when they should be out pillaging and whatnot, but it should feel pretty similar to before?
[13:48]	Guile113	It does mean each lost temple is directly killing your ability to fight wars. Raiders would be nightmarish.
[13:49]	Guile113	Apparently the temples are 200g? Which is nice. I'd call it a buff overall, unless you're getting your shit pushed in by xibalba or whatever
[13:49]	Guile113	It does mean you'll probably have to choose between having your ranged oni and your aoe oni
[13:49]	Guile113	prior to game-start
[13:50]	Guile113	Yomi now also has half-effect temp scales like Ragha (but honestly I forget how that works), and pillaging/raiding gives you more gold
[13:51]	Guile113	Like, instead of 30 gold from a raid you might get 60
[14:44]	Ironybot	I'm really not a fan of freespawn nation paradigms. Being able to choose where your production occurs and not needing to worry about constantly sweeping through your holdings to gather up new minions is important.
[14:45]	Ironybot	This new Yomi doesn't sound completely unworkable but it does sound like a nation that I will enjoy playing less than I did the last one.