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  1. #political @irc.undernet.org
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  3. If you're looking for the good stuff, look for the marker [1], way down.
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  5. 00:01:23 <NoComments> It's not difficult when you look at the price tag.
  6. 00:01:27 <@EdenOz> mac^^^ the authorities are backing police on these killings you have to tackle them
  7. 00:01:28 <textstring> People are idiots. It’s a guaranteed hit.
  8. 00:01:29 <Zeno> baimei you are forgiven :P
  9. 00:01:33 <NoComments> And then compare it to products of similar quality.
  10. 00:01:34 <z80> human and alien
  11. 00:01:36 <newbie> true that phedron
  12. 00:01:43 <mac^^^> EdenOz: true
  13. 00:01:43 <LionClan> I know Cyrus gets a lot of credit, but his grandson Artaxerxes II rebuilt the wall and sent the torah to jerusalem
  14. 00:02:06 → wook joined (~wook@123.166.231.126)
  15. 00:02:06 <_w0lf_> anyway the reality is jews and persians/iranians have a huge long history together..where both sides influened and educated each other
  16. 00:02:13 <pheadron> newbie, i wonder why mk4 doesnt come in?
  17. 00:02:14 <newbie> oh by the way I seen fncypants today talking about smelly cab driving persians
  18. 00:02:20 ← @baimei left (~baimei@Baimei.users.undernet.org): Leaving
  19. 00:02:21 <NoComments> textstring: I think the smartwatch push will be a failure. People don't want it like they wanted tablets.
  20. 00:02:26 <newbie> oh ok
  21. 00:02:31 <mac^^^> zeno and we need to change the law to where not only cities get sued but the individual cop also gets sued
  22. 00:02:41 <Zeno> NoComments I tend to agree, but the PR forms are pushing it hard
  23. 00:02:41 <pheadron> newbie, lol.. *shrugs* he's just a denizen of IRC
  24. 00:02:42 <textstring> I bet against that, NoComments
  25. 00:02:43 <NoComments> Every one I read has been saying "why would anyone want a smartwatch?"
  26. 00:02:55 <Zeno> mac^^^ agreed. there needs to be accountability
  27. 00:02:57 <_w0lf_> adults need tech toys waaaaa
  28. 00:03:06 <NoComments> And also "the PR will make it work, because people are stupid." But this is the people saying it about themselves.
  29. 00:03:08 <@wrathro> i have an iphone 6 plus, 2 ipads and a macbook pro....but i'm not considering the apple watch as of now
  30. 00:03:10 <_w0lf_> adults need tech toys to play with waaah
  31. 00:03:12 <pheadron> Guitardoc, do you guys have snow there?
  32. 00:03:13 <z80> otherwise yes
  33. 00:03:27 <@wrathro> mainly because i didn't care for wearing a watch
  34. 00:03:32 <z80> ufo are often observed at various bases
  35. 00:03:46 <textstring> I’m fucking drunk, why do I bother to think about what I want to link to?
  36. 00:03:50 <@EdenOz> bling to show off like i phone yes im broke, i dont own my house, im maxed out on my credit card but ive got an iphone
  37. 00:04:05 ⇐ VaranG|aN quit (~varangian@c122-76.i05-31.onvol.net) Read error: EOF from client
  38. 00:04:12 <Guitardoc> Pheadron we haven’t had snow here in 25 years
  39. 00:04:15 <pheadron> EdenOz, maybe you should get some extra credit cards
  40. 00:04:17 <z80> but the bases have general purpose optics
  41. 00:04:25 <@wrathro> btw, i don't use the macbook pro for any tasks as mundane as irc...that's what the ancient windows xp machine is for
  42. 00:04:27 <z80> not actual telescopes
  43. 00:04:30 <pheadron> dang. Guitardoc .. there was snow here last week, in n.c.
  44. 00:04:34 <textstring> http://youtu.be/H48idLrgFaU
  45. 00:04:36 <z80> you see
  46. 00:04:42 <Guitardoc> Up in the Sierras it snows
  47. 00:04:47 <pheadron> yup yup
  48. 00:04:49 <textstring> No, I don’t, z80
  49. 00:04:53 <pheadron> in tahoe..
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  51. 00:05:10 <z80> antarctica is not kind to machines
  52. 00:05:13 <textstring> Ski jumps and camel toes.
  53. 00:05:29 <NoComments> I have a Nokia, no tablet, and a desk-laptop that replaced my broken desktop.
  54. 00:05:38 <NoComments> I could buy new crap, but why?
  55. 00:05:55 <_w0lf_> the system needs more mindless consumption
  56. 00:05:57 <textstring> Nokia is dead.
  57. 00:05:57 <z80> normal forged steel can fracture
  58. 00:06:01 <NoComments> I'm waiting for the batteries in tablets to reach 1 month per charge, and have been waiting since day one.
  59. 00:06:02 <z80> for example
  60. 00:06:04 <newbie> baimei you are my hero
  61. 00:06:09 <NoComments> As it is, they're not worth it for me.
  62. 00:06:13 <_w0lf_> if people stop buying useless shit the economy suffers!
  63. 00:06:15 ⇐ George` quit (~chatzilla@62.232.109.123) Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140716183446]
  64. 00:06:18 <@EdenOz> pheadron well i dont own a iphone ive got a cheap android phone i bought off a guy for $30 who bought it in the phillipines and its sworked well for three years
  65. 00:06:27 <@baimei> newbie: for what?
  66. 00:06:29 <@baimei> hehe
  67. 00:06:35 <_w0lf_> buy consume spend!
  68. 00:06:37 <NoComments> textstring: It works, it makes phonecalls, it sends messages, I don't need more, others do, to each their phone.
  69. 00:06:45 <newbie> baimei I just like ya
  70. 00:06:56 <pheadron> EdenOz, there is no need for new tech if you dont use it .
  71. 00:07:04 <textstring> Nokia got bought out by Microsoft. Nokia is dead.
  72. 00:07:30 <NoComments> The company is dead, but my phone still works.
  73. 00:07:38 <textstring> Mine too.
  74. 00:07:45 <textstring> I have an N9.
  75. 00:07:57 <_w0lf_> nokia techs jumped into jolla a similar finnish phone maker
  76. 00:07:58 <NoComments> I have no idea what the model of mine is. I've had it for 9 years now.
  77. 00:08:07 <pheadron> EdenOz, i've got a laptop ..older ibm version w520 , its around almost 4 years old..but has a whopping 32gb of ram! cuz what i need to do needs lots of ram.
  78. 00:08:08 <_w0lf_> jolla is the new nokia...in europe at least
  79. 00:08:17 <textstring> Yep, _w0lf_
  80. 00:08:28 <textstring> And they are targetting China.
  81. 00:08:29 <pheadron> my gadget loving friend forced me to buy a tablet.
  82. 00:08:37 <textstring> And the Asian market.
  83. 00:08:41 <newbie> all this material stuff it doesnt mean anything you cant take all your possesions to the grave
  84. 00:08:42 <newbie> with you
  85. 00:08:45 <_w0lf_> there was a guy on irc who helped program the jolla os
  86. 00:08:57 <NoComments> newbie: Does anything matter when you're dead?
  87. 00:08:59 <_w0lf_> you enter world with nothing and exit world with nothing
  88. 00:09:01 <@baimei> newbie: thanks
  89. 00:09:04 <NoComments> newbie: Death nullifies all meaning.
  90. 00:09:10 <newbie> exactly NoComments
  91. 00:09:12 <z80> the recent Nasa probes approaching Ceres and Mercury
  92. 00:09:12 <@EdenOz> pheadron im not a real phone user , i just buy recharge voucher but i like to have it there if needed
  93. 00:09:19 <newbie> exactly NoComments
  94. 00:09:20 <z80> made me consider
  95. 00:09:27 <_w0lf_> death is the ultimate mysterious trip into infinity and the beyond
  96. 00:09:27 <NoComments> Some say that dying brings meaning to life, I say the opposite: that death is the great destroyer of meaning.
  97. 00:09:33 <pheadron> newbie, even toys matter when you are dead.. you should be buried wiht your dildos!
  98. 00:09:48 <_w0lf_> death is part of life and vice versa
  99. 00:09:49 <newbie> lol
  100. 00:09:51 <z80> the heat shielding on all those probes must be phenomenal
  101. 00:10:02 <@EdenOz> nocomments you sound like nobody in deadman
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  103. 00:10:09 <un> death is kind of the referent point many orient their lives toward and around
  104. 00:10:10 <NoComments> EdenOz: Never heard of it.
  105. 00:10:13 <z80> its incredible
  106. 00:10:27 <z80> to send a probe into space
  107. 00:10:35 <z80> for 30 years
  108. 00:10:36 <z80> lol
  109. 00:10:49 <NoComments> un: I see it as a human limit.
  110. 00:10:50 <newbie> thats why I say material things dont mean anything when your alive you cant take your worldly possesions with ya
  111. 00:10:54 <z80> without the electronics getting frozen
  112. 00:11:00 <NoComments> I find it interesting to think of death as a limit.
  113. 00:11:08 <textstring> z80: http://youtu.be/UxrtJYKGHLc
  114. 00:11:08 <z80> some feat
  115. 00:11:17 <_w0lf_> where you can observe a constant stream and cycle of birth and death in the world..perhaps thats where the hindu concept of reincarnation comes from...things constantly being born and dying
  116. 00:11:39 <@EdenOz> nobody johhny depp and nobody his indian poet guide to the crossover into death Robert Mitchum appeared in it, neil young bass soundtrack good movie
  117. 00:11:40 <newbie> wolf does that depend on what karma you caused doenst it
  118. 00:11:41 <_w0lf_> the cycles of the seaons etc
  119. 00:11:42 <newbie> ?
  120. 00:11:45 <pheadron> EdenOz, yah.. i wasnt likethat either..but im pretty much tied to it.. i misplaced my phone ..and it took 1 hour to find it in the office.
  121. 00:11:45 <pheadron> newbie, you should be buried with your tesla!
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  123. 00:11:46 <newbie> wolf does that depend on what karma you caused doenst it ?
  124. 00:11:52 <_w0lf_> i guess newbie
  125. 00:12:11 <un> NoComments, seems a fair guess the first human to live openly to be 1000 yrs old, is about 45 now
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  127. 00:12:36 <NoComments> un: I'm skeptical of such claims. And with good reason, right? That's a very big claim.
  128. 00:12:42 <un> karma would be more fisker than tesla btw
  129. 00:12:47 <DrRabbitfoot> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/09/1369700/-BREAKING-Iran-s-Foreign-Minister-responds-to-the-letter-from-47-Republican-Senators?detail=facebook_sf#
  130. 00:13:21 <un> NoComments, big and not. it was once a big claim to say so and so many calculations would be done by something which could be worn on a wrist for under a million dollars
  131. 00:13:23 <textstring> http://youtu.be/xFrGuyw1V8s
  132. 00:13:26 <JuanaTaco> All Ferguson court cases have been reassigned, per the MO supreme court.
  133. 00:13:30 <Zeno> Badass Journalist Shuts A Man Down After He Says Its Beneath Him To Be Interviewed By Her http://youtu.be/bOlpK6Yj5a4
  134. 00:13:31 <@EdenOz> pheadron yes well you need it for business though i preferred a landline, i got annoyed with salesmen calling all the time to hawk their products
  135. 00:13:36 <Zeno> Hi DrRabbitfoot :)
  136. 00:13:39 <NoComments> un: Right. I'm skeptical.
  137. 00:13:55 <DrRabbitfoot> howdy zeno
  138. 00:13:56 <z80> im running many various custom audio API's under Windows 7
  139. 00:13:57 <un> JuanaTaco, did you see the bangles photo of the one ferg judge? at his wedding apparently
  140. 00:13:58 <_w0lf_> tovarish
  141. 00:14:09 <z80> all in exclusive mode
  142. 00:14:11 <z80> lol
  143. 00:14:13 <newbie> wolf do you belive in karma
  144. 00:14:27 <_w0lf_> well actions have impact and influence...so yeah i guess i do
  145. 00:14:35 <newbie> oh ok
  146. 00:14:39 <_w0lf_> karma litteraly means intended action
  147. 00:14:39 <z80> which means i have close down various apps to find which one
  148. 00:14:48 <NoComments> _w0lf_: Do you believe in rebirth?
  149. 00:14:56 <un> JuanaTaco, http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/3/6/1425668811711/304e2ec7-51f5-49b7-a3c0-d326a5e549cd-bestSizeAvailable.jpeg nothing like celebrating those keypoints in a life of fixing tickets and so on
  150. 00:14:57 <z80> has access to the audio device
  151. 00:15:05 <Zeno> DrRabbitfoot I like this part from your URL : "I admit I felt quite a bit of schadenfreude as I read the words of this obviously intelligent and well read man lecturing these moronic Republicans about their own country's constitution and international law."
  152. 00:15:26 <_w0lf_> well people can change thier mentality and conciousness and live a different way..so in a sense they are reborn
  153. 00:15:41 <_w0lf_> perhaps if someone has a great insight in life that changes them...they are reborn in a sense
  154. 00:15:50 <NoComments> I don't believe in karma. Read a Marquis de Sade novel: the people in it do outrageously evil stuff, and never get punished, and one can draw a parallel between this moral and the life of the rich or powerful.
  155. 00:15:51 <z80> its bliss
  156. 00:15:53 <un> NoComments i'm hopeful but skeptical not for technical reasons..more the lack of social will to actually advance rather than profiteering from mass-kills or whatever humans as a group seem drawn toward rather than obvious medical advancements
  157. 00:16:15 <NoComments> If one is powerful enough, one can avoid the ill consequences of their acts.
  158. 00:16:16 <z80> Windows 7 is by the far the best operating system i have ever used
  159. 00:16:25 <newbie> wolf we must be where of mara for she is the goddess of suffering
  160. 00:16:32 <z80> there are no linits
  161. 00:16:33 <newbie> beware
  162. 00:16:38 <z80> limits
  163. 00:16:41 <textstring> I tihink people just buy patchouli ad and and a Prius.
  164. 00:16:47 <_w0lf_> well jesus said if you live by the sword you die by it...this is karma in essense...if you live and do violence in time some violence happens to you...kinda common sense
  165. 00:16:48 <un> if it was Justine, the mraquis supposedly wrote that while incarcerated--speaking of the punished
  166. 00:17:03 <un> marquis. Mr. Aquis hmm
  167. 00:17:17 <z80> lol
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  169. 00:17:28 <NoComments> un: The first person to reach 1000 years will be tremendously wealthy. Think of the disparity between poor and rich, when the rich will be able to buy these treatments.
  170. 00:17:48 <z80> Android is like a 1980s GUI with 10x the resolution
  171. 00:17:52 <_w0lf_> neuromancer the classic sci fi from william gibson said that nocommentws
  172. 00:17:56 <NoComments> This is not an argument against it, though.
  173. 00:18:03 <z80> funny?
  174. 00:18:12 <un> NoComments, actually that's an argument as to why a neutral personage might be the first vested--not some hyper well of geezer
  175. 00:18:19 <NoComments> I want the technology too, but I know that most of us will never have access to it in our lifetimes.
  176. 00:18:25 <z80> God i hate it
  177. 00:18:29 <NoComments> That is, if it's actually possible.
  178. 00:18:37 <NoComments> If we don't find an impossible roadblocker.
  179. 00:18:46 <z80> I used to be neutral against normal phones
  180. 00:18:50 <z80> analog ones
  181. 00:18:51 <_w0lf_> humans have always wanted some kind of immortality
  182. 00:19:03 <_w0lf_> myths and religion serve that purpose
  183. 00:19:08 <z80> but because of smartphones and tablets
  184. 00:19:08 <un> NoComments, that view's like the high school teacher who thought middle class americans could never afford to own their own computer, though--It assumes a high pricing
  185. 00:19:11 <textstring> I’m sexist. http://youtu.be/ka9mCmx9Jhs
  186. 00:19:18 <z80> i know hate ALL phones
  187. 00:19:20 <z80> now
  188. 00:19:25 <_w0lf_> i may die..but my legacy lives on...a rather normal universal human desire
  189. 00:19:30 <newbie> wolf that depends on what good you do in this life according to buddhism
  190. 00:19:31 <NoComments> un: Again, I'm not against it.
  191. 00:19:41 <un> NoComments, understand
  192. 00:19:44 <_w0lf_> newbie?
  193. 00:19:50 <NoComments> un: It will be high enough for most of us alive today to never be able to afford it.
  194. 00:20:15 <un> NoComments, it's not a personal focus btw. seems like some older folk into tech, so have increasing interest in that as they age though
  195. 00:20:18 <z80> indeed
  196. 00:20:32 <un> s/so/do
  197. 00:20:42 <newbie> wolf are afterlife depends on what good we do in this life
  198. 00:20:52 <newbie> according to buddhism
  199. 00:21:10 <_w0lf_> the human brain operates on electricity...the electronic computer brain uses electricity too
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  201. 00:21:21 — z80 is playing The Ballroom - Milk And Honey
  202. 00:21:22 <_w0lf_> the internet is just a global human consciousness
  203. 00:21:24 <NoComments> un: But will they share that technology? Imagine a divide between the first-world and the third-world where the first-world has 1000 years of life expectancy, and the third-world only 30 years. Imagine what power a technologist can amass in such a lifetime.
  204. 00:21:33 <z80> rock solid sunshine
  205. 00:21:51 <NoComments> It has so many implications.
  206. 00:22:01 <_w0lf_> nocomments i would expect some form of futuristic neo communist movement to challenge that
  207. 00:22:06 <textstring> God informs our pute emotions., _w0lf_
  208. 00:22:21 <textstring> lol
  209. 00:22:27 <un> NoComments, valid fear. but look at scaffolding the other way too..if each extension buys a few more years--the person benefiting from the extension will want the best minds working on it--and that may well involve sharing. india biotech comes to mind :)
  210. 00:22:31 <textstring> moment
  211. 00:22:43 <_w0lf_> if the rich are near immortal and poor live short lives....in time perhaps some futuristic neo socialist movement will start a revolution to change that
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  213. 00:23:02 <textstring> http://youtu.be/XECcMj4-wDg
  214. 00:23:05 <z80> lol
  215. 00:23:08 <NoComments> _w0lf_: As the communists have done until now, unsuccessfully. To hope that all problems raised by technology will be solved in a social revolution and by self-regulation is to forget that thousands of years of politics and wars.
  216. 00:23:22 <z80> the problem is
  217. 00:23:23 <NoComments> \to forget thousands
  218. 00:23:30 <_w0lf_> plato the founder of western philosopher proposed a socialistic system in the republic
  219. 00:23:33 <top18-> The treatment is fully actualized and implementable today
  220. 00:23:40 <un> could be the inversion has already started. note the comment above on choosing an economically neutral subject, to scaffold into a 1000 yr span
  221. 00:23:55 <_w0lf_> the ideas of communism fascism theocracy and capitalism are eternal ideas..some just have periods of more influence
  222. 00:23:57 ⇐ mary^ quit (mary_@cpe-71-74-251-183.neo.res.rr.com) Quit: Alcohol has never solved anyone's problems. Then again, neither has milk.
  223. 00:24:03 <un> would have to be someone not too easily bored--which qualifies most prolific irc chatters immediately btw ;)
  224. 00:24:03 <textstring> I’ve tried to suck my own dick.
  225. 00:24:09 <z80> its impossible to turn textstring into a NEO Socialist
  226. 00:24:12 <DrRabbitfoot> Police say suspect shot himself after officer shot him following armed robbery in Milwaukee; suspect in the hospital with serious injuries - http://www.milwaukeepolicenews.com/?p=5309
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  228. 00:24:18 <NoComments> un: Think of this: the cheapest, surest way of extending lifespan for the world's population is access to clean water, electricity, sanitation.
  229. 00:24:30 <z80> textstring wasnt a real hippie
  230. 00:24:38 ← shields left (~shields@cpe-108-183-237-164.twcny.res.rr.com): "Intellect is not an impelling but a directing force. Feeling alone can drive on the social train, whether for weal or woe."
  231. 00:24:44 <z80> he is devoid of vision
  232. 00:24:46 <un> NoComments, hence the olpc project
  233. 00:24:50 <z80> a victim
  234. 00:24:51 <_w0lf_> thousand years ago in ancient greece...democracies....fascism....theocracies all existed....nothing has changed really..we still see such systems with us
  235. 00:24:59 <z80> to his own deadening
  236. 00:25:07 <NoComments> In this context, a few wanting to drastically extend their lifespan, and with the money of the tax payers, is extremely selfish of them.
  237. 00:25:08 <textstring> You got me, z80
  238. 00:25:11 <newbie> yea and who thinks ayn rand milton freedman philosphy works
  239. 00:25:12 <z80> projections ;)
  240. 00:25:17 <z80> no sir
  241. 00:25:21 <un> NoComments, in other words, what was the most likely inexpensive way to spread info on those subjects
  242. 00:25:25 <textstring> Your vision worked out worked out well.
  243. 00:25:38 <z80> if a revolution is what you want
  244. 00:25:56 <un> NoComments, note the the apollo project apparently enabled olpc at one level
  245. 00:26:02 <z80> this is good as any other place to start
  246. 00:26:11 <textstring> You’re generation revolution was Beanny Babies.
  247. 00:26:19 — z80 slaps textstring around a bit with a large trout
  248. 00:26:19 <textstring> Your
  249. 00:26:21 <un> a manned mission to mars would enable other mass technologies also
  250. 00:26:34 <NoComments> un: I don't believe in trickle-down benefits in technology. It's too expensive.
  251. 00:26:34 <_w0lf_> space is the place
  252. 00:27:06 <z80> i dont want to scare you
  253. 00:27:12 <z80> or make waves
  254. 00:27:19 <_w0lf_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lDCYjb8RHk ---- textstring
  255. 00:27:22 <NoComments> I believe they exist, but I also believe it would have been cheaper to R&D for the public good in the first place... but that's not possible, ever. The military comes first... Sigh.
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  257. 00:27:45 <textstring> z80: http://youtu.be/lu3VTngm1F0
  258. 00:27:51 <z80> but its possible we have been warned to stay away from the Moon and Mars
  259. 00:27:54 <_w0lf_> all societies rely on force to survive and flourish
  260. 00:28:12 <_w0lf_> what is the state but simply a monopoly of force and aggression
  261. 00:28:27 <NoComments> And, the military are doing this thing, where instead of military technologies trickling down to consumers, they partner up with corporations who do commercial products that, when iterated enough, will be of military use.
  262. 00:28:33 <z80> also please dont stand so close to me
  263. 00:28:38 <ZShurp> NoComments, we need jobs programs. Military technology development is certainly more useful than digging ditches and filling them back in as Keynes recommended, yes?
  264. 00:28:39 <_w0lf_> internet and computer are military creations
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  266. 00:28:58 <_w0lf_> the military industrial complex created your computer and internet
  267. 00:29:06 <NoComments> People buying gaming machines are paying for the development of faster and faster chips that will bring benefits to the military.
  268. 00:29:06 <_w0lf_> it trickled down
  269. 00:29:17 <ZShurp> Also more useful than building Pyramids (the Ancient Egyptian Jobs Program). More useful than Bread and Circus too.
  270. 00:29:23 <textstring> It’s time to stop kidding around.
  271. 00:29:23 <NoComments> Or, think of ubiquitous cameras. That's passing the cost of mass surveillance to the consumer.
  272. 00:29:28 <z80> we are about to meet our masters
  273. 00:29:42 <ZShurp> Am I the *only* Keynesian that likes military spending? WTF???!!!
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  275. 00:29:53 <NoComments> _w0lf_: I know.
  276. 00:29:58 <_w0lf_> i used to work on military drones
  277. 00:29:59 <textstring> http://youtu.be/7mdIWaRi-7c
  278. 00:30:00 <z80> those two isolated lights on Ceres cant be ice
  279. 00:30:09 <ZShurp> _w0lf_, good job experience, yes?
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  281. 00:30:15 <_w0lf_> i worked for a military subcontractor
  282. 00:30:28 <z80> ..first contact
  283. 00:30:34 <textstring> Capitalist whore.
  284. 00:30:36 <_w0lf_> i liked it sure...my coworker was working on drones used in afghanistan..he was from afghanistan..amusing
  285. 00:30:47 <@EdenOz> so why not do some programs here on earth that solve real important needs like energy, greener technologies
  286. 00:30:50 <z80> please dont rub me
  287. 00:30:57 <_w0lf_> i was working on military drones used in afghanistan...with a leftist muslim afghani
  288. 00:31:03 <textstring> Again…hold on.
  289. 00:31:17 <ZShurp> EdenOz, the Navy is working on Cold Fusion :)
  290. 00:31:17 <_w0lf_> he was trying to convert me to islam as well hah
  291. 00:31:20 <NoComments> EdenOz: If it can't be used to kill people or make money, it's difficult to make it get traction.
  292. 00:31:21 <@EdenOz> or let the private market fund a mars mission
  293. 00:31:49 <@EdenOz> xprize mars
  294. 00:31:59 <NoComments> Too expensive.
  295. 00:32:09 <_w0lf_> i used to have acess the blueprints to us military drone radiators and oil coolers
  296. 00:32:09 <textstring> z80: http://youtu.be/7tnyDzpI-9s
  297. 00:32:14 <z80> and that thing on mercury
  298. 00:32:16 <ZShurp> how about a colonize Europa with bacteria from Antarctica mission?
  299. 00:32:34 <z80> that looks like an alien hive
  300. 00:32:37 <textstring> Let Islam colonize Europe.
  301. 00:32:50 <@EdenOz> those old prizes fortechnical development worked well, the marine chronometer,transatlantic flight
  302. 00:33:21 <z80> so thats two alien unknown objects about to be filmed at highres
  303. 00:33:24 <_w0lf_> i dont want to see my ancesteral homeland a islamic theocracy
  304. 00:33:30 <z80> within 60 days
  305. 00:33:37 <NoComments> You won't, _w0lf_. They don't stand a chance.
  306. 00:33:45 <CptMustard> _w0lf_: what are you doing to see that doesn't happen?
  307. 00:33:49 <_w0lf_> i have respect and knowledge of islam..but i wouldnt want to live under a islamic theocracy
  308. 00:34:03 <_w0lf_> well i am only one man...my impact on the world is limited
  309. 00:34:04 <ZShurp> It's rather disgusting that plutocracy is preferable to islamic theocracy :(
  310. 00:34:18 <NoComments> I think that they can have an Islamic theocracy in their country, but that they shouldn't impose it on other countries.
  311. 00:34:18 <textstring> Um hum
  312. 00:34:21 <_w0lf_> i just a drop in the ocean of humanity
  313. 00:34:30 <_w0lf_> a grain of sand in a cosmic beach
  314. 00:34:50 <z80> because of the potential power of my mind
  315. 00:35:01 <NoComments> ZShurp: Every government is shit, the thing is, which one is less shit?
  316. 00:35:03 <Yurtle> potentiality
  317. 00:35:03 <newbie> sunni had a theorcracy in Iraq until we killed sadam hussein
  318. 00:35:06 <textstring> You are all brilliant. v
  319. 00:35:09 <textstring> http://youtu.be/Rbm6GXllBiw
  320. 00:35:10 <newbie> sunni had a theorcracy in Iraq until we killed sadam hussein
  321. 00:35:11 <z80> i will create a Monolith
  322. 00:35:24 <z80> nasa suddenly finds
  323. 00:35:37 <textstring> Naan?
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  325. 00:35:45 <_w0lf_> naan bread is good
  326. 00:35:50 <_w0lf_> dipped in masala
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  328. 00:36:05 <ZShurp> NoComments, I just keep hoping we can do better than guano. Can't we at least have cow pies?
  329. 00:36:06 <newbie> wasnt the bath party socialist
  330. 00:36:08 <newbie> also
  331. 00:36:15 <_w0lf_> baath party
  332. 00:36:24 <newbie> yea them
  333. 00:36:26 <_w0lf_> iraq and syria both baathist at varios points
  334. 00:36:26 <mpphoto> socialist and secular
  335. 00:36:30 <_w0lf_> yup
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  337. 00:36:46 <mpphoto> not a theocracy
  338. 00:36:49 <_w0lf_> secular socialist military junta a la bashar al assad...or ISIS al baghadi..take your pick
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  340. 00:37:00 <_w0lf_> i choose bashar
  341. 00:37:05 <NoComments> ZShurp: For that, Americans have to push their government to do the right thing, and keep pushing, always, because governments always push against the people too.
  342. 00:37:13 <NoComments> It's a constant struggle.
  343. 00:37:23 <z80> i like the scifi aspect
  344. 00:37:25 <NoComments> And it's going to be like this forever.
  345. 00:37:32 <_w0lf_> we wont see a peaceful democractic and free society in the mid east...all arabic societies are authoritarian...and will be so for a long time
  346. 00:37:45 <z80> human history would forever be changed overnight
  347. 00:37:55 <@EdenOz> yes and ethnicly quite tolerant, we helped destroy that and scattered these people to the four winds and created IS with our meddling
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  349. 00:38:09 <z80> if an Alien base was discovered in our Solar system
  350. 00:38:29 <_w0lf_> the arab spring revolutions where challanging the secular socialist juntas.....which became overly corrupt venal and nepotisic over time
  351. 00:38:33 <NoComments> EdenOz: That's true. ISIS is the product of a previous war.
  352. 00:38:45 <NoComments> So what will fighting ISIS bring next?
  353. 00:39:00 <NoComments> It reminds me of the film Battle of Algiers. The French had the same problem in Algeria.
  354. 00:39:04 <@EdenOz> NoComments more failure
  355. 00:39:06 <_w0lf_> another taliban nocomments
  356. 00:39:06 <z80> on the phenomenal level
  357. 00:39:11 <@EdenOz> probably
  358. 00:39:19 <_w0lf_> isis is just taliban part2
  359. 00:39:19 <JuanaTaco> Z80 Does it have to be an alien base? What if any sort of life-form was found on, for instance, Mars?
  360. 00:39:26 <NoComments> _w0lf_, ISIS is more extreme than Al-Qaeda. We're radicalizing them.
  361. 00:39:36 <z80> it would be the most most important event in human history
  362. 00:39:38 <@EdenOz> we should ressurect Assads regime
  363. 00:39:40 <_w0lf_> sure force and war radicalizes any and all societies
  364. 00:39:50 <z80> worse
  365. 00:39:59 <_w0lf_> look what ww2 did to america
  366. 00:40:04 <_w0lf_> the post war economic boom
  367. 00:40:10 <NoComments> We should send kill the extremists, and make peace with those who want peace.
  368. 00:40:11 <JuanaTaco> consumerism
  369. 00:40:12 <_w0lf_> that was a revolution of sorts
  370. 00:40:23 <z80> then they find out the Alien Base was built 600,000 years ago
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  372. 00:40:28 <NoComments> Both fight them and be diplomatic with them.
  373. 00:40:31 <z80> lol
  374. 00:40:37 <@EdenOz> women working
  375. 00:40:52 <NoComments> _w0lf_: That's the broken window fallacy.
  376. 00:40:54 <DrRabbitfoot> when you are finished with isis thirty more terrorist organizations will fill the vacuum, you will recognize the ememy, they'll be the ones shaking hands with mccain
  377. 00:41:04 <_w0lf_> perhaps so nocomments
  378. 00:41:16 <NoComments> It goes like this: If I break a window, I'm creating an economy, because someone has to pay for it.
  379. 00:41:20 <z80> that simple event
  380. 00:41:24 <NoComments> It is.
  381. 00:41:39 <z80> would require to rewrite human history
  382. 00:41:40 <_w0lf_> ww2 total economic mobilization lead to later post ww2 economic boom...plently of economists argue that
  383. 00:41:46 <z80> from day one
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  385. 00:42:07 <_w0lf_> america like the soviets was based on a giant military industrial complex
  386. 00:42:10 <NoComments> WW2 saw the loss of much wealth, and America was well positioned to benefit from the reconstruction efforts.
  387. 00:42:16 <JinZhi> - namovah _/\_
  388. 00:43:01 <NoComments> Viridium: Inflammatory speech cheapens the political discourse.
  389. 00:43:10 <_w0lf_> namo myoho rengye kyo jinzhi?
  390. 00:43:18 <_w0lf_> :)
  391. 00:43:42 <_w0lf_> all media is controlled propaganda
  392. 00:43:52 <_w0lf_> all of it
  393. 00:43:55 <NoComments> All media in all countries, very true.
  394. 00:44:05 <NoComments> 8/ignore viridium
  395. 00:44:09 <z80> lol
  396. 00:44:19 <z80> viridium human?
  397. 00:44:20 <_w0lf_> russia today is just russian pravda for new century
  398. 00:44:49 <z80> Russia is our ACE
  399. 00:44:55 <_w0lf_> the party line of russia today is putins party....united russia
  400. 00:45:03 <_w0lf_> where pravad party line was communist party
  401. 00:45:15 <z80> when we finally have had enough of ISIS
  402. 00:45:19 <_w0lf_> every politican invokes the public good
  403. 00:45:22 <DeepPrpl> republicans want to obstruct obama to keep him from destroying the country
  404. 00:45:36 <_w0lf_> every politican talks about public good when they defend private gain
  405. 00:45:38 <z80> we can pay Russia to nuke and gas them
  406. 00:45:43 <NoComments> Although, _w0lf_, RT is Russian government propaganda... while CNN, FOX, NBC, and so on... they're held by the media elite, and not the political elite. That's what's meant when a "free press" is important. That they should be held by an elite not in bed with the political elite.
  407. 00:45:59 <NoComments> \when it's said that a "free press"
  408. 00:46:09 <_w0lf_> somewhat true no but all media is controlled elite proganda...whether in a democracy or tyranny
  409. 00:46:19 <z80> you see
  410. 00:46:20 <_w0lf_> every media even in a democracy has a party line to uphold
  411. 00:46:22 <DeepPrpl> <Viridium> they have no other purpose or goal ... its not about making the country a better place ... its about blocking obama on every front <----- those are not mutually exclusive objectives
  412. 00:46:40 <NoComments> Of course, it's an elite, but it's important that it's an elite in conflict with the political elite.
  413. 00:46:49 <z80> thats a Scenario nobody wants to see
  414. 00:46:59 <_w0lf_> all media everywhere is just smoke and mirrors engineered to move the souls of the masses...whether democracy or dictatorship
  415. 00:47:07 <z80> Russia stomping the middle east
  416. 00:47:12 <NoComments> We know, _w0lf_.
  417. 00:47:20 <_w0lf_> :)
  418. 00:47:25 <NoComments> Tell the truth, but manipulate the emotions.
  419. 00:47:27 <Zeno> Crime & Money with Chris Rock, Steve Buscemi and John Oliver - Uncensored http://www.cc.com/video-clips/qjay1f/night-of-too-many-stars-crime---money-with-chris-rock--steve-buscemi-and-john-oliver---uncensored
  420. 00:47:27 <z80> hence even Iran has to offer heavy weapons
  421. 00:47:33 <z80> against ISIS
  422. 00:48:08 <z80> the alternative is too terrible
  423. 00:48:15 <_w0lf_> every state needs foes to mobolize and rally the masses around
  424. 00:48:33 <_w0lf_> every state needs war to get its allies on its side...to battle for resournces...land resources and people
  425. 00:48:36 <DeepPrpl> Blame Canada!
  426. 00:48:42 <_w0lf_> yes blame canada
  427. 00:48:54 <z80> once also Israel gears up
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  429. 00:49:02 <Zeno> Win the auction and you win .. You will commit a REAL crime with John Oliver!
  430. 00:49:04 <z80> against ISIS
  431. 00:49:05 <_w0lf_> a constant state of war makes the masses afraid and dependant on great leaders to guide and save them
  432. 00:49:13 <_w0lf_> a constant state of war makes the masses afraid and dependanton great leaders to guide and save them
  433. 00:49:13 <_w0lf_> [20:43] <_w0lf_> all media is controlled prop
  434. 00:49:16 <_w0lf_> oops
  435. 00:49:20 <z80> Turkey will have no choice but to follow
  436. 00:50:06 <NoComments> ISIS is an inflated threat.
  437. 00:50:20 <NoComments> They're so small, so tiny, yet they can threaten the world? Please.
  438. 00:50:27 <@baimei> i agree
  439. 00:50:39 <_w0lf_> the pro iranian iraqi shiite militias...plus hezbollah militias from lebanon...and iranian revolutionary guards soldiers will damage ISIS a huge amount
  440. 00:50:44 <@baimei> its an excuse for more wars
  441. 00:50:45 <DeepPrpl> I found this definition of 'naivety' online: the Obama administration supports islamo terrorist regimes building nuclear power plants while prohibiting the U.S.A. from building new nuclear power plants
  442. 00:51:00 <_w0lf_> iran will fight to the death in iraq to perserve a shiite iraqi majority government
  443. 00:51:02 <z80> im sure Turkey is aware of the consequences of Putin on a crusade
  444. 00:51:07 <FelixFaust> ISIS is the ones inflating their own value, surely you’ve seen their videos
  445. 00:51:15 <z80> in the middle east
  446. 00:51:18 <NoComments> baimei: Not an excuse for war for war sake's, in my view, but an excuse to get people interested in defending the US government's interests.
  447. 00:51:18 <Zeno> Take the cheese too!
  448. 00:51:27 <z80> he wouldnt stop
  449. 00:51:29 <z80> lol
  450. 00:51:35 <@baimei> neocons want wars
  451. 00:51:39 <@baimei> its a stated goal
  452. 00:51:44 <NoComments> I don't believe that the US wants eternal war to keep their own people in check.
  453. 00:51:47 <z80> at that point i would join the Russian Armed forces
  454. 00:51:55 <NoComments> I don't believe the US needs it, at all.
  455. 00:52:03 <z80> as we invade Saudi Arabia
  456. 00:52:10 <Knochette> remember when this came out? video included: John McCain Circa 2013 “We should arm ISIS” http://bluenationreview.com/john-mccain-circa-2013-arm-isis/
  457. 00:52:13 <_w0lf_> governments can murder and torture for any cause it claims..and its people are heros..killing for public interest...but if a lone individual kills for thier own private interest..they are a criminal who must be punished
  458. 00:52:17 <ZShurp> I support building nuclear power in both the US and in Iran. What political party should I belong to?
  459. 00:52:21 <NoComments> baimei: Neocons and Democrats, both want the same thing.
  460. 00:52:24 <z80> with nuclear strike bombers above as cover
  461. 00:52:30 <z80> yes sir
  462. 00:52:31 <NoComments> You know who doesn't want the same thing? Other US political parties.
  463. 00:52:36 <@baimei> nocomments: and republicans
  464. 00:52:36 <NoComments> Which no one votes for.
  465. 00:52:38 <ZShurp> I support military spending as a proper Keynesian stimulus to the economy. What party should I belong to?
  466. 00:52:39 <_w0lf_> governments can murder and torture for any cause it claims..andits people are heros..killing for public interest...but if a lone individual kills for thier own private interest..they are a criminal who must be punished
  467. 00:52:46 <z80> so you see
  468. 00:52:50 <NoComments> baimei: Sure, republicans, democrats, they're the same thing.
  469. 00:52:58 <FelixFaust> i see 47 republicans in congress violated the logan act, by directly contacting a foreign government and trying to interfere with negotions
  470. 00:53:01 <NoComments> The difference between the two is inflated.
  471. 00:53:06 <_w0lf_> all governments are just a monopoly of forces...
  472. 00:53:08 <z80> Israel and Iran will have to work together
  473. 00:53:20 <z80> to keep the peace
  474. 00:53:21 <NoComments> _w0lf_: That's not true.
  475. 00:53:45 <_w0lf_> usa is just a lesser evil
  476. 00:53:52 <NoComments> Every country is a lesser evil.
  477. 00:53:59 <_w0lf_> no there are differences
  478. 00:54:04 <_w0lf_> is north korea just like america?
  479. 00:54:21 <NoComments> There are, but, it's this country today, that country tomorrow...
  480. 00:54:24 <z80> ...
  481. 00:54:41 <FelixFaust> viridium, yes they wrre comitting treason
  482. 00:54:42 <_w0lf_> anyway one day a government and people are great satans...next decade top trading partners
  483. 00:54:58 <NoComments> Meh, that's good politics.
  484. 00:54:59 <_w0lf_> the germans where evil nazis to be destroyed..now rich americans drive german luxury cars
  485. 00:55:00 <ZShurp> _w0lf_, it just goes to show the power of capitalism over ideology
  486. 00:55:14 <NoComments> If you hold a grudge, that hurts your people.
  487. 00:55:18 <_w0lf_> vietnam was one evil communist dictatorship to be destoryed...now a big trading partner
  488. 00:55:19 <NoComments> That's diplomacy.
  489. 00:55:23 <_w0lf_> its all a farse and a game
  490. 00:55:28 <NoComments> It's not a farse.
  491. 00:55:40 <Yurtle> http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/sam-simon-co-creator-of-the-simpsons-dies-at-59-1201448945/
  492. 00:55:43 <NoComments> The situation changed.
  493. 00:55:49 <z80> lol
  494. 00:56:00 <FelixFaust> ‘only, of course, because germans tend to make better cars than other countries, including the USA
  495. 00:56:00 <_w0lf_> cuba was once evil communist tyranny...now obama opens trade with them
  496. 00:56:01 <z80> Rats on a sinking boat
  497. 00:56:08 <z80> Sir
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  499. 00:56:21 <_w0lf_> i visited a bmv factory in germany with my dad
  500. 00:56:26 <_w0lf_> bmw
  501. 00:56:34 <FelixFaust> wolf they are still communist
  502. 00:56:38 <z80> yep
  503. 00:56:41 <_w0lf_> lol no
  504. 00:56:47 <_w0lf_> lefty sure
  505. 00:56:48 <z80> in Bavaria?
  506. 00:56:54 <_w0lf_> yeah
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  508. 00:57:01 <z80> seen it too
  509. 00:57:04 <newbie> hello there rosco
  510. 00:57:07 <newbie> ^
  511. 00:57:10 <@rosco> howdy
  512. 00:57:12 <_w0lf_> hola
  513. 00:57:16 <@rosco> holas
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  515. 00:57:19 <NoComments> Are you saying that it's better to politically hold a grudge, and punish them?
  516. 00:57:34 <NoComments> To go on a vendetta?
  517. 00:57:36 <_w0lf_> rosco are you a traditionalist catholic
  518. 00:57:50 <_w0lf_> germans are good muscians philosophers engineers and soldiers
  519. 00:57:56 <_w0lf_> bascially
  520. 00:58:07 <NoComments> A provocateur, I see.
  521. 00:58:17 <JinZhi> - Haselhoff... :)
  522. 00:58:27 <_w0lf_> schopenhauer
  523. 00:58:28 <FelixFaust> not like the USA has NOT had relations with countries they considered “eveil” whatever that means, the USSR was a good example of that, communist china another, the way the US has treated cuba since the 1960s has, in fact, been the oddity
  524. 00:58:29 <_w0lf_> neitzche
  525. 00:58:31 <_w0lf_> kant
  526. 00:58:34 <_w0lf_> hegel
  527. 00:58:35 <_w0lf_> marx
  528. 00:58:39 <NoComments> Heidenberg.
  529. 00:59:24 <_w0lf_> hmm
  530. 00:59:57 <_w0lf_> america wont trade with cuba cause its communist tyranny...but communist tyrants of china america can trade with for trillions a year
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  532. 01:00:13 <FelixFaust> exactly viridium, only a fool would want to continue treating cuba as though the cold war iscurrent
  533. 01:00:29 <NoComments> It trades with Saudi Arabia, which is close to an Islamic theocracy.
  534. 01:00:35 <_w0lf_> if america is defending global democracy while it lines the pockets of the chinese communist party cadres with trillions of dollars of trade
  535. 01:00:39 <NoComments> (it's a kingdom, though)
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  537. 01:00:54 <z80> imagine all the weed one could grow on Cuba
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  542. 01:00:58 <NoComments> _w0lf_, why are you so surprised at traditional politics?
  543. 01:01:12 <_w0lf_> not suprised
  544. 01:01:13 <NoComments> Aren't you supposed to work for the US government?...
  545. 01:01:23 <_w0lf_> heheh
  546. 01:01:34 <_w0lf_> well i did work for a us military subcontractor once yeah
  547. 01:01:37 <z80> NoComments its ok ..he works for us
  548. 01:01:43 <NoComments> That's the same thing, _w0lf_.
  549. 01:01:43 ↔ Yurtle nipped out
  550. 01:02:02 <_w0lf_> i was a small cog in the us military industrial complex
  551. 01:02:10 <NoComments> Was?
  552. 01:02:16 <_w0lf_> no longer
  553. 01:02:25 <NoComments> But you had access to classified material, you said so yourself.
  554. 01:02:38 <NoComments> You don't lose such high security clearance.
  555. 01:02:41 <_w0lf_> not really classifed
  556. 01:02:56 <z80> just random components
  557. 01:03:04 <z80> for missile guidance systems
  558. 01:03:05 <NoComments> And, why were you saying such things in a public chat?
  559. 01:03:06 <_w0lf_> anyway other engineers actually stole and resold some blueprints
  560. 01:03:11 <NoComments> Those are US government secrets.
  561. 01:03:32 <_w0lf_> hmm
  562. 01:03:38 <NoComments> Even if they stole classified information, it's still technically classified.
  563. 01:03:44 <z80> it cant be important
  564. 01:03:49 <NoComments> It is important.
  565. 01:04:16 <z80> undernet is filled with technical experts
  566. 01:04:23 <_w0lf_> heheh exactly
  567. 01:04:34 <NoComments> The US gov has a policy of keeping a close eye on IRC chats to prevent information leakage.
  568. 01:04:56 <NoComments> They don't want another Snowden.
  569. 01:05:45 <@baimei> they dont anybody finding out how naughty they have been
  570. 01:05:51 <Guru> pffft right
  571. 01:06:01 <z80> lol
  572. 01:06:11 <NoComments> It's part of the US social media strategy.
  573. 01:06:12 <z80> they havent found the other ones yet
  574. 01:06:25 <z80> today we are all Snowdens
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  576. 01:07:12 <_w0lf_> all the majority security and encrpytion protocols where designed at us military industrial complex/nsa affilliated research/academic institutions
  577. 01:07:20 <z80> lol
  578. 01:07:33 <NoComments> That's bait.
  579. 01:07:48 <_w0lf_> the us government knows how to defeat encrpytion and security protocols of many and almost all kinds
  580. 01:07:52 <z80> no sir
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  582. 01:07:59 <z80> they were not
  583. 01:08:04 <_w0lf_> mainly because they helped program most of the protocols
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  585. 01:08:15 <_w0lf_> diffie hellman
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  587. (he floods the channel with nonsense to clear the screen here)
  588.  
  589. 01:08:19 <_w0lf_> AES
  590. 01:08:20 <z80> many of them were designed by telephone companies and ibm
  591. 01:08:20 → Yossarian joined (~kvirc@adsl-99-108-190-3.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net)
  592. 01:08:23 <FelixFaust> i’m no ed snowden, see i know how to shave properly
  593. 01:08:42 <_w0lf_> yes ibm and telcos where in bed with military industrial complex z80
  594. 01:09:01 <Yossarian> An offensive tackle who committed to play for the University of Oklahoma football team last November rescinded that commitment Monday, one day after a video surfaced of some of the schools students singing that there will never be a n----r in their (now-defunct) chapter of the Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity.
  595. 01:09:01 <z80> lol
  596. 01:09:11 ⇐ pr|mary quit (~primary@66.53.83.81) Quit: http://goo.gl/3Shjt2
  597. 01:09:28 <z80> im sorry
  598. 01:09:56 <z80> you have been on the internet to long
  599. 01:10:07 <_w0lf_> Until May 2009, the only successful published attacks against the full AES were side-channel attacks on some specific implementations. The National Security Agency (NSA) reviewed all the AES finalists, including Rijndael, and stated that all of them were secure enough for U.S. Government non-classified data. In June 2003, the U.S. Government announced that AES could be used to protect classified information:'
  600. 01:10:40 <z80> Encryption systems were in fact stolen from crashed ufo's
  601. 01:10:48 <_w0lf_> The design and strength of all key lengths of the AES algorithm (i.e., 128, 192 and 256) are sufficient to protect classified information up to the SECRET level. TOP SECRET information will require use of either the 192 or 256 key lengths. The implementation of AES in products intended to protect national security systems and/or information must be reviewed and certified by NSA prior to their acquisition and
  602. 01:11:15 <_w0lf_> AES is used for commerical and private encyption...and it was vetted as you can see by the NSA
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  604. 01:11:34 <z80> yes sir
  605. 01:11:35 <_w0lf_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard
  606. 01:11:48 <z80> then you will be very happy to know
  607. 01:12:12 <z80> because of the advances in RF DSP's
  608. 01:12:14 ⇐ Tybalt quit (~Tybalt@Tybalt.users.undernet.org) Ping timeout
  609. 01:12:23 <_w0lf_> rfcs
  610. 01:12:33 <z80> reliable encrypted modes are now possible on shortwave
  611. 01:12:34 <_w0lf_> requests for comments
  612. 01:12:43 <_w0lf_> dsp? digital signal proccessor
  613. 01:12:49 <_w0lf_> rf radio freq
  614. 01:13:14 <Yossarian> http://m.ocolly.com/news/article_9ecc3ff8-c619-11e4-96c7-9b54dfefd9fb.html?mode=jqm
  615. 01:13:17 <_w0lf_> IEEE has all the protocols used for that
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  617. 01:13:19 <z80> aye
  618. 01:13:51 <_w0lf_> if you want to understand how the internet works look up IEEE rfcs
  619. 01:13:57 <_w0lf_> all for free online
  620. 01:14:05 <z80> new exotic phased key modes
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