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  1. [21:18] * Faerzen_Norstov gestures in the air briefly to begin her recording software
  2. [21:18] <Faerzen_Norstov> Yes, I just switched them on as well
  3. [21:18] <Faerzen_Norstov> I am simply using them as a computing device at the moment
  4. [21:18] <Lyra_Bel> Perfect
  5. [21:18] <Faerzen_Norstov> Don't pay any attention to them
  6. [21:19] <Lyra_Bel> Now we at least can prove the next time something stupid happens
  7. [21:19] <Faerzen_Norstov> Let's please get back to the previous conversation, Lyra
  8. [21:19] <Lyra_Bel> Sure
  9. [21:19] <Lyra_Bel> Where were we?
  10. [21:19] <Faerzen_Norstov> I brought up the fact that Maskwraith showed up
  11. [21:19] <Lyra_Bel> Right
  12. [21:19] <Faerzen_Norstov> And showed you him murdering your alternate self
  13. [21:19] <Lyra_Bel> Okay
  14. [21:20] <Lyra_Bel> And I was mad because she wasn't in enough pain
  15. [21:20] <Faerzen_Norstov> He is a known mass murderer, thief, and rapist, and he showed you this. And that is what frustrated you the most?
  16. [21:20] <Lyra_Bel> Yeah
  17. [21:20] <Lyra_Bel> I
  18. [21:21] <Lyra_Bel> I was ranting at him, about how much better a job I could have done
  19. [21:21] <Faerzen_Norstov> Why would you want that for your alternate self anyways?
  20. [21:21] <Lyra_Bel> ...
  21. [21:21] <Lyra_Bel> Dunno
  22. [21:22] <Lyra_Bel> Because that's how this game works, I guess
  23. [21:22] <Lyra_Bel> That's how all games work
  24. [21:22] <Faerzen_Norstov> What do you mean?
  25. [21:22] <Faerzen_Norstov> Every game must involve painful demises?
  26. [21:23] <Lyra_Bel> Zero sum
  27. [21:23] <Lyra_Bel> If there's a winner, there's gotta be a loser
  28. [21:23] <Lyra_Bel> And I kinda always envisioned myself as the loser
  29. [21:23] <Faerzen_Norstov> But why were you disappointed, even frustrated, that that negative sum didn't get placed on you?
  30. [21:24] <Faerzen_Norstov> Do you not wish to be on the "winner" side of that trade-off?
  31. [21:24] <Lyra_Bel> Because I want to be the one that gets hurt for it!
  32. [21:25] <Faerzen_Norstov> Is that some sort of self-satisfaction that you want to hurt yourself? What is the motivation behind that?
  33. [21:25] <Lyra_Bel> I don't know
  34. [21:25] <Lyra_Bel> Insanity?
  35. [21:25] <Lyra_Bel> That seems to be the go-to answer for any questions about why I do stuff
  36. [21:25] <Faerzen_Norstov> I'm not sure I would jump so quickly to use that word, Lyra. But I would agree there is a disconnect there.
  37. [21:26] <Faerzen_Norstov> That is why we are talking.
  38. [21:26] <Faerzen_Norstov> To dig deeper into this.
  39. [21:26] <Lyra_Bel> No, that's not the issue
  40. [21:26] <Lyra_Bel> The issue isn't WHY
  41. [21:26] <Lyra_Bel> The issue is WHAT
  42. [21:26] <Lyra_Bel> Quantity of evidence over quality
  43. [21:26] <Lyra_Bel> How else am I deranged?
  44. [21:27] <Faerzen_Norstov> Quite a great many ways, it seems
  45. [21:27] <Faerzen_Norstov> I want to touch on one of those other ways
  46. [21:27] <Lyra_Bel> By all means
  47. [21:27] <Faerzen_Norstov> Digging deeper into this line of thought, this is where I wanted to continue to
  48. [21:27] <Faerzen_Norstov> It seems to me that this thread of self-harm is quite pervasive
  49. [21:27] <Faerzen_Norstov> Not just in this one case of you seeing your own horrifically violent murder
  50. [21:28] <Faerzen_Norstov> You threw yourself out of numerous gates, one after the other
  51. [21:28] <Lyra_Bel> That wasn't about me, though
  52. [21:28] <Faerzen_Norstov> continuously self-inflicting more damage that could have easily been averted
  53. [21:29] <Faerzen_Norstov> You knew you would likely die if you continued as you were
  54. [21:29] <Lyra_Bel> I could have made it!
  55. [21:29] <Faerzen_Norstov> You were lucky Regent stopped you when he did
  56. [21:29] <Faerzen_Norstov> Not from what Regent told me.
  57. [21:29] <Faerzen_Norstov> You came to visit me afterwards
  58. [21:30] <Faerzen_Norstov> And I can personally say you were in incredibly bad shape
  59. [21:30] <Faerzen_Norstov> Even if you had made it, you wouldn't have been in any fit state to help Alex
  60. [21:30] <Regent> *Faerzen*
  61. [21:30] <Faerzen_Norstov> *Yes?*
  62. [21:30] <Regent> *Could you please take me out of the room?*
  63. [21:30] <Lyra_Bel> I...
  64. [21:30] <Faerzen_Norstov> *Yes*
  65. [21:30] <Lyra_Bel> I at least could have been there for him!
  66. [21:31] <Faerzen_Norstov> In your dying moments?
  67. [21:31] <Regent> *I believe I am on the verge of a panic attack*
  68. [21:31] <Faerzen_Norstov> That hardly seems helpful to anyone!
  69. [21:31] <Lyra_Bel> And his, yeah
  70. [21:31] <Faerzen_Norstov> Please pardon me for a moment.
  71. [21:31] * Faerzen_Norstov walks over to Regent and picks up the crown
  72. [21:31] <Lyra_Bel> Hm?
  73. [21:31] <Regent> The crown is shaking visibly
  74. [21:31] * Faerzen_Norstov walks outside and sets the crown on top of a gas pump before returning to inside
  75. [21:32] <Lyra_Bel> Again?
  76. [21:32] <Faerzen_Norstov> Please, continue
  77. [21:32] <Lyra_Bel> Bluh
  78. [21:32] <Lyra_Bel> Why does he keep bringing me to these interventions then absconding?
  79. [21:32] <Faerzen_Norstov> Because he cares about you.
  80. [21:32] <Lyra_Bel> Couldn't have at least forced me to take him out?
  81. [21:32] <Faerzen_Norstov> And he hates to see you hurting.
  82. [21:32] <Lyra_Bel> I ain't hurting
  83. [21:33] <Faerzen_Norstov> That is the problem.
  84. [21:33] <Faerzen_Norstov> Your mind and life are so scarred that you aren't hurting at all anymore, even when you should be.
  85. [21:33] <Lyra_Bel> That's not how it works
  86. [21:33] <Lyra_Bel> It's not that "oh you're just so used to it that it doesn't affect you"
  87. [21:33] <Lyra_Bel> I like it.
  88. [21:34] <Lyra_Bel> Okay?
  89. [21:34] <Regent> < It literally is just that though >
  90. [21:34] <Faerzen_Norstov> Case in point.
  91. [21:34] <Faerzen_Norstov> Anyways, let us not continue discussing Regent.
  92. [21:35] <Faerzen_Norstov> If you were Alex, and even if you were dying on the pavement, slowly fading form consciousness
  93. [21:35] <Regent> < Man, poor Regent >
  94. [21:35] <Faerzen_Norstov> Do you really think it would help him to see his friend fall from the sky and kill herself too?
  95. [21:35] <Faerzen_Norstov> I daresay not.
  96. [21:35] <Lyra_Bel> ...
  97. [21:35] <Faerzen_Norstov> That is not being there for him.
  98. [21:35] <Faerzen_Norstov> You said it yourself.
  99. [21:35] <Faerzen_Norstov> You enjoy it.
  100. [21:35] <Lyra_Bel> Then what should I have done?
  101. [21:36] <Faerzen_Norstov> almost anything but that
  102. [21:36] <Lyra_Bel> Forget that I may have killed him and gone on with my day?
  103. [21:36] <Faerzen_Norstov> I am sure if you had taken some time to reasonably and calmly think through things you would have thought of something.
  104. [21:36] <Faerzen_Norstov> You are a smart girl, Lyra
  105. [21:36] <Lyra_Bel> No comment
  106. [21:37] <Faerzen_Norstov> All throughout this game, you have talked about simply throwing yourself off a cliff or performing some equally harmful act just to kill yourself
  107. [21:37] <Regent> *Faerzen hears painful sounding, soul wrenching sobbing from Regent in her head*
  108. [21:37] <Faerzen_Norstov> Not just that gate incident
  109. [21:37] <Lyra_Bel> Because I wanna see what stops it from working
  110. [21:37] <Faerzen_Norstov> Why do you think there must be something?
  111. [21:37] <Lyra_Bel> That's how the game works
  112. [21:38] <Lyra_Bel> Grind you down without QUITE breaking you
  113. [21:38] <Lyra_Bel> Then forcing you to claw your way back up
  114. [21:38] <Lyra_Bel> Just in time for the next disaster
  115. [21:38] <Faerzen_Norstov> The game breaking you and you breaking you are two very different things, Lyra
  116. [21:38] <Lyra_Bel> How so?
  117. [21:39] <Faerzen_Norstov> How are they not? Do you really think you lack that much agency that any action you perform is instead the fault of the game?
  118. [21:39] <Lyra_Bel> Yep
  119. [21:39] <Lyra_Bel> I've been trying to do stuff myself
  120. [21:40] <Lyra_Bel> But then another bombshell gets dropped, the playing field changes, and I gotta focus on the new mess
  121. [21:40] <Faerzen_Norstov> I cannot disagree with that. I have a rather full platter of mess myself. Not that I can say it compares to yours, however.
  122. [21:40] <Faerzen_Norstov> But is that justification for just further self-harm?
  123. [21:41] <Lyra_Bel> It's not pointless
  124. [21:41] <Lyra_Bel> It's... a side effect, let's call it
  125. [21:41] <Lyra_Bel> Of taking that necessary next step
  126. [21:41] <Regent> *The sobbing in Faerzen's head is suddenly cut off entirely*
  127. [21:42] * Faerzen_Norstov quickly looks outside at the gas pump
  128. [21:42] <Faerzen_Norstov> *Regent?*
  129. [21:42] * Lyra_Bel follows Faerzen's gaze
  130. [21:42] <Faerzen_Norstov> *Regent?*
  131. [21:42] <Regent> The crown is there as normal, shaking violently
  132. [21:43] <Lyra_Bel> He's talking in your head
  133. [21:43] <Faerzen_Norstov> No, he isn't
  134. [21:43] <Lyra_Bel> Telling you something bad
  135. [21:43] <Faerzen_Norstov> He is suddenly entirely silent
  136. [21:43] <Lyra_Bel> Welp
  137. [21:43] <Faerzen_Norstov> He was crying earlier.
  138. [21:43] * Lyra_Bel stands up, walks outside, and puts on the crown
  139. [21:44] <Faerzen_Norstov> Lyra, careful! He is not okay right now at all.
  140. [21:44] <Regent> No response vocally from Regent
  141. [21:44] <Lyra_Bel> Who is?
  142. [21:44] <Regent> Just shaking
  143. [21:44] <Lyra_Bel> *Reg?*
  144. [21:44] <Regent> *I don't want to talk to you*
  145. [21:44] <Regent> *Take me off*
  146. [21:45] <Lyra_Bel> *Yeah you do, and no I won't*
  147. [21:45] <Regent> *Give me to Faerzen*
  148. [21:45] <Lyra_Bel> *Make me*
  149. [21:45] <Regent> *Please*
  150. [21:45] <Regent> *I'm really hurting right now*
  151. [21:45] <Faerzen_Norstov> Is he answering you?
  152. [21:45] <Lyra_Bel> Yeah
  153. [21:45] <Regent> *I don't want to upset you, or control you anymore*
  154. [21:45] <Regent> *Please take me off*
  155. [21:45] <Regent> *Please*
  156. [21:46] <Regent> *Please*
  157. [21:46] <Regent> *Please*
  158. [21:46] <Faerzen_Norstov> What is he saying?
  159. [21:46] <Lyra_Bel> *Y'know what the best thing about being a sociopath is?*
  160. [21:46] <Lyra_Bel> *I don't need to care about what you want. So thanks for that*
  161. [21:46] <Lyra_Bel> Nothing
  162. [21:46] <Regent> *Lyra vomits violently*
  163. [21:46] * Faerzen_Norstov walks over to Lyra and yanks the crown off of her head, putting it on
  164. [21:46] <Faerzen_Norstov> LIAR.
  165. [21:47] <Faerzen_Norstov> *Regent, are you there?*
  166. [21:47] <Faerzen_Norstov> *Calm down, it's okay, you're on me now*
  167. [21:47] <Regent> *Take me away*
  168. [21:47] <Regent> *It hurts*
  169. [21:47] <Regent> *It hurts so mucj*
  170. [21:47] <Faerzen_Norstov> *I know it does, and I'm sorry*
  171. [21:48] <Faerzen_Norstov> *I am really truly sorry that this sucks so much*
  172. [21:48] <Lyra_Bel> ... Faerzen?
  173. [21:48] <Faerzen_Norstov> *What would you like me to do?*
  174. [21:48] <Faerzen_Norstov> Yes?
  175. [21:48] <Lyra_Bel> You aren't happy either, are you?
  176. [21:48] <Lyra_Bel> You're stuck doing stuff you'd really rather not
  177. [21:48] <Faerzen_Norstov> Why would any of us be happy right now?
  178. [21:48] <Lyra_Bel> And everyone around you is forcing you to keep going
  179. [21:48] <Regent> *Bawling noises inside Faerzen's head*
  180. [21:48] <Lyra_Bel> Because if you don't, things'll go even worse
  181. [21:49] <Faerzen_Norstov> Welcome to my life, Lyra. I just try and learn to deal with it.
  182. [21:49] <Faerzen_Norstov> It seems things always seem to work that way around me.
  183. [21:49] <Faerzen_Norstov> Or at least, I make them work that way.
  184. [21:49] <Faerzen_Norstov> Sometimes, I can't tell which.
  185. [21:49] <Lyra_Bel> Welcome to Sabath
  186. [21:50] <Faerzen_Norstov> *Shhhhh, it'll be okay Reggie. I'm here*
  187. [21:50] <Faerzen_Norstov> Essentially, yes.
  188. [21:50] <Regent> *She's so alone*
  189. [21:50] <Regent> *So alone and its so awful what she has been through*
  190. [21:50] <Faerzen_Norstov> *Yes. Yes, she is, and yes, it is awful*
  191. [21:50] <Lyra_Bel> ... Except no
  192. [21:51] <Lyra_Bel> No, that's not it
  193. [21:51] <Faerzen_Norstov> Hmm?
  194. [21:51] <Lyra_Bel> There's more to it, isn't there?
  195. [21:51] <Lyra_Bel> This isn't Salvation War, there isn't suffering for its own sake
  196. [21:51] <Lyra_Bel> It's like
  197. [21:51] <Lyra_Bel> This whole thing
  198. [21:51] <Lyra_Bel> This... feelings jam, or whatever you wanna call it
  199. [21:52] <Lyra_Bel> It's like the end of the least child-friendly Disney movie ever
  200. [21:52] <Lyra_Bel> Right?
  201. [21:52] * Faerzen_Norstov smirks
  202. [21:52] <Faerzen_Norstov> That is the most depressingly apt analogy I have heard in quite some time.
  203. [21:52] <Lyra_Bel> No, because it's like
  204. [21:52] <Lyra_Bel> After this whole mess
  205. [21:52] <Faerzen_Norstov> *I don't expect to be able to fix her. I'm done with trying to fix people.*
  206. [21:53] <Lyra_Bel> We're just now getting to actually working stuff out
  207. [21:53] <Faerzen_Norstov> *But what I can do is be here for her*
  208. [21:53] <Lyra_Bel> In one big epiphanic chat shoehorned in right before the finale
  209. [21:53] <Lyra_Bel> Or after, depending on how you interpret our chances
  210. [21:54] <Faerzen_Norstov> I suppose.
  211. [21:54] <Lyra_Bel> But Sabath isn't that bad
  212. [21:54] <Lyra_Bel> Or it is, but the other kind of bad
  213. [21:54] <Faerzen_Norstov> Oh really?
  214. [21:55] <Lyra_Bel> It's not that... lame
  215. [21:55] <Lyra_Bel> Or egregious
  216. [21:55] <Lyra_Bel> Or pathetic
  217. [21:55] <Lyra_Bel> It's BETTER than that
  218. [21:55] <Lyra_Bel> It's a thing, and it's really really good at what it does
  219. [21:55] <Lyra_Bel> Yeah?
  220. [21:55] <Faerzen_Norstov> I can wholeheartedly agree with that statement
  221. [21:55] <Lyra_Bel> But it's bigger than us
  222. [21:56] <Lyra_Bel> We're ants looking at the door mat of a skyscraper
  223. [21:56] <Faerzen_Norstov> It is a whole lot bigger than us. And one of its parts is that it functions as a trial by fire, and damn that fire is hot.
  224. [21:57] <Faerzen_Norstov> I have been digging and digging to learn as much as I can about this game and I am certain I have only scraped the tip of the iceberg.
  225. [21:57] <Regent> *Lyra, I'm sorry*
  226. [21:58] <Lyra_Bel> That can't be it, though
  227. [21:58] <Regent> < That was out loud >
  228. [21:58] <Lyra_Bel> Huh?
  229. [21:58] <Regent> I
  230. [21:58] <Regent> *sniff*
  231. [21:58] <Regent> I should've been better,
  232. [21:58] <Regent> At helping you out
  233. [21:58] <Lyra_Bel> Stop
  234. [21:58] <Lyra_Bel> Stop right now
  235. [21:58] <Regent> You are always so alone
  236. [21:58] <Faerzen_Norstov> Regent, this is in no way your fault
  237. [21:59] <Regent> I could've done better
  238. [21:59] <Regent> I can't even do anything to fix this
  239. [21:59] <Regent> Look at me
  240. [21:59] <Regent> I'm worthless
  241. [21:59] <Faerzen_Norstov> Perhaps, perhaps not, but that doesn't mean any of this is your fault.
  242. [21:59] <Faerzen_Norstov> You can't be expected to fix people!
  243. [22:00] <Regent> All I've accomplished
  244. [22:00] <Regent> Is mercy killing an elderly pony
  245. [22:03] <Lyra_Bel> First of all
  246. [22:04] <Lyra_Bel> Screw you for not listening to me when I said to stop
  247. [22:04] <Lyra_Bel> Second of all, thanks for ignoring me when I said to stop
  248. [22:04] <Regent> Everything I do is worthless...
  249. [22:04] <Lyra_Bel> Third of all, shut up with the worthless talk
  250. [22:04] <Faerzen_Norstov> How can you even say that, Regent?
  251. [22:04] <Lyra_Bel> Because we're all worthless, that's the whole point
  252. [22:04] <Regent> It hurts so much
  253. [22:05] <Lyra_Bel> Fourth of all, I made you kill the pony
  254. [22:05] <Lyra_Bel> FIFTH of all, you saved my life at least twice
  255. [22:05] <Lyra_Bel> So I'm a little offended you prioritized a dying horse over those
  256. [22:05] <Lyra_Bel> Sixth, I ain't lonely
  257. [22:06] * Regent whimpers in pain
  258. [22:06] <Lyra_Bel> And not just because of the menagerie of voices in my head
  259. [22:07] <Lyra_Bel> This, this thing. This mental breakdown about how you aren't able to magic away my issues?
  260. [22:07] <Regent> Lyra
  261. [22:07] <Lyra_Bel> Reggie
  262. [22:07] <Regent> You don't know how hurt you are
  263. [22:07] <Lyra_Bel> Fine
  264. [22:07] <Lyra_Bel> How hurt am I?
  265. [22:07] <Regent> I'm like the opposite of a sociopath
  266. [22:08] <Regent> I emphasize very well
  267. [22:08] <Lyra_Bel> Empath
  268. [22:08] <Regent> If you realized how hurt you were
  269. [22:08] <Regent> Your reaction to it would be way worse than what I am feeling right now
  270. [22:08] <Lyra_Bel> Reggie, please listen to me
  271. [22:08] <Lyra_Bel> I'm not hurting right now
  272. [22:09] <Lyra_Bel> Okay?
  273. [22:09] <Regent> Ok
  274. [22:09] <Lyra_Bel> Maybe it's good that I ain't the best at realizing things
  275. [22:09] <Regent> No
  276. [22:09] <Regent> You can't be helped until you realize this
  277. [22:09] <Lyra_Bel> I don't think I need help, though
  278. [22:09] <Regent> I've seen it all before
  279. [22:09] <Regent> Hell
  280. [22:10] <Regent> I've lived it all before
  281. [22:10] <Lyra_Bel> ...
  282. [22:10] <Faerzen_Norstov> That doesn't mean you should be expected to fix it though, Reggie!
  283. [22:10] <Faerzen_Norstov> Saying "I could have done better" is meaningless
  284. [22:10] <Faerzen_Norstov> Because everyone can always say that
  285. [22:10] <Lyra_Bel> It's running away
  286. [22:10] <Regent> What use am I if I can't save her
  287. [22:10] <Faerzen_Norstov> Nobody is perfect and you've done a damn good job of helping Lyra.
  288. [22:11] <Lyra_Bel> Regent, you've kept me from dying at least twice
  289. [22:11] <Faerzen_Norstov> Lyra isn't your sole responsibility to mend all by yourself.
  290. [22:11] <Lyra_Bel> More including all the times the pen helped
  291. [22:11] <Regent> And what have you shown for it?
  292. [22:11] <Regent> more suicidal urges
  293. [22:11] <Lyra_Bel> They aren't suicidal urges!
  294. [22:11] <Regent> You want to die
  295. [22:11] <Faerzen_Norstov> Perhaps we can grow past whatever those are eventually!
  296. [22:11] <Regent> And are willing to
  297. [22:11] <Lyra_Bel> I do not want to die
  298. [22:12] <Regent> Grow past?
  299. [22:12] <Lyra_Bel> Willing, sure, if that's what it takes
  300. [22:12] <Faerzen_Norstov> You can't expect Lyra's entire psyche to be fixed in a mere 6 days
  301. [22:12] <Lyra_Bel> There's nothing wrong with my psyche!
  302. [22:12] <Regent> Grow past?
  303. [22:12] <Regent> Heh, Lyra
  304. [22:12] <Regent> There is
  305. [22:12] <Lyra_Bel> No
  306. [22:12] <Lyra_Bel> Y'know what?
  307. [22:12] <Lyra_Bel> No there's not
  308. [22:12] <Regent> You are depressed and sociopathic
  309. [22:12] <Lyra_Bel> Not depressed
  310. [22:12] <Regent> No?
  311. [22:12] <Lyra_Bel> No
  312. [22:12] <Faerzen_Norstov> Let's not debate this right now.
  313. [22:12] <Regent> Last time you felt happy
  314. [22:12] <Regent> Go
  315. [22:13] <Lyra_Bel> How long do I get to think?
  316. [22:13] <Regent> 10 seconds
  317. [22:13] <Lyra_Bel> The ogre
  318. [22:13] <Regent> What about it?
  319. [22:13] <Lyra_Bel> Killing that ogre in the spider caves?
  320. [22:13] <Lyra_Bel> That felt good
  321. [22:13] <Regent> You know what
  322. [22:13] <Regent> Ignore me
  323. [22:13] <Lyra_Bel> No wait, after that
  324. [22:13] <Regent> I clearly don't know what I'm doing
  325. [22:14] <Lyra_Bel> You know that feeling when a plan comes together?
  326. [22:14] <Regent> Let me just shut up
  327. [22:14] <Lyra_Bel> No, you don't get to do that
  328. [22:14] <Faerzen_Norstov> Reggie, this is the point though. Yes, you see all of these things wrong with Lyra, but you can't at the same time expect yourself to be able to solve every single one of them!
  329. [22:14] <Regent> WHY CANT I?
  330. [22:14] <Faerzen_Norstov> You are placing entirely unreasonable burdens and responsibilities on yourself.
  331. [22:14] <Faerzen_Norstov> Why could you?
  332. [22:14] <Lyra_Bel> Because people aren't perfect!
  333. [22:14] <Faerzen_Norstov> Why could anyone?
  334. [22:14] <Regent> I've been around here forever!
  335. [22:14] <Regent> I know so much!
  336. [22:15] <Faerzen_Norstov> So?
  337. [22:15] <Regent> Why can't I fix her problems
  338. [22:15] <Lyra_Bel> Stewing in misery, reflecting on mistakes
  339. [22:15] <Faerzen_Norstov> You're more effective but that doesn't mean you're perfect
  340. [22:15] <Regent> She deserves that much at least
  341. [22:15] <Regent> All I want
  342. [22:15] <Regent> Is for Lyra to end up ok
  343. [22:15] <Lyra_Bel> I'm going to
  344. [22:15] <Lyra_Bel> Okay?
  345. [22:15] <Faerzen_Norstov> Then the three of us can work together to make that happen.
  346. [22:15] <Faerzen_Norstov> Isn't that what we're trying to do here with this case?
  347. [22:15] <Regent> ...
  348. [22:16] <Lyra_Bel> Regent, listen to me
  349. [22:16] <Regent> Everything hurts
  350. [22:16] <Lyra_Bel> Worst case scenario
  351. [22:16] <Lyra_Bel> We fail, I jump off cliff and die
  352. [22:16] <Lyra_Bel> Right?
  353. [22:16] <Regent> No
  354. [22:16] <Regent> That can't happen
  355. [22:16] <Regent> You can't die
  356. [22:16] <Faerzen_Norstov> Lyra, please!
  357. [22:16] <Regent> No
  358. [22:16] <Regent> No
  359. [22:16] <Regent> No
  360. [22:16] <Regent> No
  361. [22:16] <Lyra_Bel> Course not
  362. [22:16] <Faerzen_Norstov> That is no way to motivate anyone
  363. [22:16] <Regent> No
  364. [22:16] <Lyra_Bel> So what keeps me alive, huh?
  365. [22:16] * Regent starts muttering
  366. [22:16] <Faerzen_Norstov> Please actually shut up about killing yourself.
  367. [22:17] <Lyra_Bel> SABATH!
  368. [22:17] <Lyra_Bel> Sabath keeps me from dying!
  369. [22:17] * Regent is shaking again
  370. [22:17] <Lyra_Bel> Keeps me from giving up when everything hurts
  371. [22:17] <Lyra_Bel> RIGHT!?
  372. [22:17] <Regent> NO'
  373. [22:17] <Faerzen_Norstov> NO!
  374. [22:17] <Regent> NO
  375. [22:17] * Lyra_Bel bursts into laughter
  376. [22:17] <Regent> YOU ARENT RIGHT
  377. [22:17] <Regent> AUGH!!!!!!!!
  378. [22:17] <Lyra_Bel> Oh yes I am
  379. [22:17] <Faerzen_Norstov> You assume this game makes you invincible because it wants you to suffer
  380. [22:17] * Regent screams in pain
  381. [22:17] <Lyra_Bel> What I was saying before
  382. [22:17] <Faerzen_Norstov> That's not how this works.
  383. [22:17] <Lyra_Bel> I ain't suffering!
  384. [22:18] <Lyra_Bel> It's a Disney movie
  385. [22:18] <Regent> you
  386. [22:18] <Regent> you are
  387. [22:18] <Lyra_Bel> Needs to end with an epiphany
  388. [22:18] <Regent> Faerzen
  389. [22:18] <Lyra_Bel> Happy ever after
  390. [22:18] <Regent> Please
  391. [22:18] <Faerzen_Norstov> You might not feel like you are suffering, but the rest of us are, I can assure you that.
  392. [22:18] <Regent> Take me far away
  393. [22:18] <Regent> Let me forget everything
  394. [22:18] <Lyra_Bel> Stop running and listen to me!
  395. [22:18] <Regent> It hurts so much
  396. [22:18] <Lyra_Bel> Life lessons, right!?
  397. [22:19] <Lyra_Bel> Happy endings?
  398. [22:19] <Faerzen_Norstov> You're not teaching anyone life lessons, Lyra!
  399. [22:19] <Lyra_Bel> I'm not
  400. [22:19] <Lyra_Bel> Sabath is
  401. [22:19] <Regent> It hurts
  402. [22:19] <Lyra_Bel> Stop arguing and just LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING!
  403. [22:19] <Faerzen_Norstov> YOU'RE NOT SAYING ANYTHING
  404. [22:19] * Lyra_Bel takes a deep breath
  405. [22:19] * Regent whimpers
  406. [22:19] <Lyra_Bel> Four apocalypses
  407. [22:19] <Lyra_Bel> The universe splintering apart
  408. [22:20] <Lyra_Bel> New worlds, reproducing everything
  409. [22:20] <Lyra_Bel> Solving entropy
  410. [22:20] <Lyra_Bel> You were wrong, before
  411. [22:20] <Lyra_Bel> We aren't defending them
  412. [22:20] <Lyra_Bel> We're raising them
  413. [22:20] <Faerzen_Norstov> Those are equivalent
  414. [22:20] <Lyra_Bel> They're close
  415. [22:20] <Regent> *Help*
  416. [22:21] <Regent> *Please*
  417. [22:21] <Lyra_Bel> Happily ever after
  418. [22:21] <Regent> *Help*
  419. [22:21] <Lyra_Bel> The rule isn't uncertainty
  420. [22:21] <Lyra_Bel> I was wrong about that
  421. [22:21] <Lyra_Bel> I was wrong about a lot of stuff, but now I get it
  422. [22:21] <Lyra_Bel> The rule is LEARNING
  423. [22:22] <Lyra_Bel> You can't get complacent
  424. [22:22] <Lyra_Bel> Not because it's trying to break us down, but because it's trying to build us up!
  425. [22:22] <Lyra_Bel> Because there's more to learn, and it isn't letting us give up
  426. [22:22] <Faerzen_Norstov> This is similar to what I was saying before
  427. [22:22] <Lyra_Bel> This isn't Salvation War, there is no suffering for its own sake
  428. [22:22] <Lyra_Bel> Power through the pain, right?
  429. [22:23] <Regent> *Faerzen*
  430. [22:23] <Faerzen_Norstov> *Yes?*
  431. [22:23] <Regent> *It hurts so much*
  432. [22:23] <Lyra_Bel> When things are done, when we've made it past every issue
  433. [22:23] <Lyra_Bel> We'll be... ideal
  434. [22:23] <Regent> *I can't think*
  435. [22:23] <Lyra_Bel> No more self-deprecation, or anger issues, or sociopathy
  436. [22:23] <Faerzen_Norstov> *Yes it does. What do you expect me to do about it?*
  437. [22:23] <Faerzen_Norstov> *I can't change the fact that it hurts*
  438. [22:23] <Lyra_Bel> Sabath isn't breaking us
  439. [22:23] <Lyra_Bel> It's fixing us
  440. [22:24] * Regent whimpers and moans
  441. [22:24] <Faerzen_Norstov> Or
  442. [22:24] <Faerzen_Norstov> Alternatively, it is also forcing us to fix ourselves
  443. [22:24] <Faerzen_Norstov> or else we are all doomed
  444. [22:24] <Lyra_Bel> Same thing, functionally
  445. [22:24] <Lyra_Bel> Except we aren't allowed to die, right?
  446. [22:24] <Faerzen_Norstov> No
  447. [22:24] <Faerzen_Norstov> Failure is always an option
  448. [22:24] <Faerzen_Norstov> Nothing says this seed has to bloom
  449. [22:25] <Faerzen_Norstov> We can simply... lose
  450. [22:25] <Lyra_Bel> I'm gonna disagree with you there
  451. [22:25] <Faerzen_Norstov> There is nothing in this game that forces us to win
  452. [22:25] * Regent buries itself into Faerzen's chest
  453. [22:25] <Faerzen_Norstov> That isn't a game at all
  454. [22:25] <Lyra_Bel> What if I told you I've seen the future?
  455. [22:25] <Regent> < I mean like cuddling, not violent stabbing >
  456. [22:25] <Faerzen_Norstov> What if I told you you don't know what future you saw?
  457. [22:26] <Lyra_Bel> I probably wouldn't care!
  458. [22:26] <Faerzen_Norstov> That was *a* future
  459. [22:26] <Lyra_Bel> In at least one alternate timeline, we won
  460. [22:26] <Faerzen_Norstov> All you know is it is possible to win
  461. [22:26] <Lyra_Bel> It's possible!
  462. [22:26] <Faerzen_Norstov> But not inevitable
  463. [22:26] <Lyra_Bel> But the rules aren't trying to screw us over anymore
  464. [22:26] <Lyra_Bel> Or they never were, really
  465. [22:26] * Regent is silent
  466. [22:26] <Lyra_Bel> It's like...
  467. [22:26] <Faerzen_Norstov> This is what I was trying to tell you earlier!
  468. [22:27] <Faerzen_Norstov> It is a test. A trial
  469. [22:27] <Faerzen_Norstov> Designed to be hard but winnable
  470. [22:27] <Lyra_Bel> Then you suck at explaining things
  471. [22:27] <Faerzen_Norstov> No
  472. [22:27] <Lyra_Bel> Because this is new information to me
  473. [22:27] <Faerzen_Norstov> You suck at listening and understanding things
  474. [22:27] <Lyra_Bel> That too
  475. [22:27] <Faerzen_Norstov> Especially when you're mad
  476. [22:27] <Lyra_Bel> Granted
  477. [22:27] <Lyra_Bel> You're absolutely correct
  478. [22:28] <Lyra_Bel> But
  479. [22:28] <Faerzen_Norstov> This is what I was saying before, and you refused to believe me.
  480. [22:28] <Faerzen_Norstov> You were quite adamant.
  481. [22:28] <Faerzen_Norstov> I am glad Maskwraith showed you what he did.
  482. [22:28] * Regent all at once fills Lyra to the brim with a sense of calm
  483. [22:28] <Lyra_Bel> I was being...
  484. [22:28] * Lyra_Bel smiles
  485. [22:28] <Faerzen_Norstov> That you now actually understand fully that the game is winnable
  486. [22:28] <Lyra_Bel> Not just winnable
  487. [22:28] <Faerzen_Norstov> and not just a foolish hope that I tried to instill in you
  488. [22:29] <Lyra_Bel> Way more than "winnable"
  489. [22:29] <Lyra_Bel> Thank you, Reggie
  490. [22:29] * Regent doesn't respond
  491. [22:29] <Lyra_Bel> Reggie
  492. [22:30] <Regent> Please stop fighting
  493. [22:30] <Regent> I can't listen to this
  494. [22:30] <Lyra_Bel> We aren't fighting
  495. [22:30] <Regent> I need help
  496. [22:30] <Lyra_Bel> Don't we all?
  497. [22:31] <Faerzen_Norstov> I can't argue with that.
  498. [22:31] <Regent> Not all of us are in extreme emotional pain
  499. [22:31] <Faerzen_Norstov> I also can't argue with that.
  500. [22:31] <Lyra_Bel> You're an empath
  501. [22:31] <Lyra_Bel> Shouldn't you be picking up the happiness, then?
  502. [22:31] <Regent> No
  503. [22:31] <Regent> I've been a part of you
  504. [22:32] <Regent> I know exactly how much you are hurting without realizing it
  505. [22:32] <Regent> All of that pain you aren't feeling
  506. [22:32] <Lyra_Bel> I'm smiling, Reg
  507. [22:32] <Regent> Is redirected to me
  508. [22:32] <Lyra_Bel> For real this time
  509. [22:32] <Regent> That's nice Lyra
  510. [22:32] <Lyra_Bel> Stop absorbing my pain. Give it back
  511. [22:32] <Regent> No
  512. [22:33] <Lyra_Bel> Please
  513. [22:33] <Regent> No
  514. [22:33] <Regent> You don't deserve it
  515. [22:33] <Regent> Nobody does
  516. [22:33] <Faerzen_Norstov> You don't deserve it either, Reggie
  517. [22:33] <Regent> No, I don't
  518. [22:33] <Regent> I won't let Lyra endure this
  519. [22:34] <Lyra_Bel> This is emotional pain we're talking, right?
  520. [22:34] <Lyra_Bel> Just to be clear
  521. [22:34] <Regent> Yes
  522. [22:34] <Lyra_Bel> Then share some
  523. [22:34] <Lyra_Bel> Give back half
  524. [22:34] <Regent> No
  525. [22:34] <Regent> No
  526. [22:34] <Faerzen_Norstov> I'm not sure I follow.
  527. [22:34] <Regent> It doesn't work like that
  528. [22:34] <Regent> You don't understand
  529. [22:34] <Lyra_Bel> Of course I don't
  530. [22:34] <Lyra_Bel> And that bothers me
  531. [22:34] <Lyra_Bel> Which gets redirected to you
  532. [22:34] <Lyra_Bel> You're in a feedback loop
  533. [22:35] <Regent> It also doesn't work like that
  534. [22:35] <Lyra_Bel> Oh
  535. [22:35] <Lyra_Bel> Then how does it work?
  536. [22:35] <Regent> Let me just talk to Faerzen alone, ok
  537. [22:35] <Regent> Please
  538. [22:35] <Regent> We can talk about this later
  539. [22:35] <Lyra_Bel> Will we?
  540. [22:35] <Regent> I just...
  541. [22:35] <Regent> Can't be near you right now
  542. [22:35] <Lyra_Bel> Promise me we'll talk later
  543. [22:35] <Regent> I do
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