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- 19:14 - Gamemaster: Clarify for me
- 19:14 - Gamemaster: The giftapult exploit
- 19:14 - Gamemaster: It was a matter of blocking schema
- 19:14 - Gamemaster: And then overriding the giftapult with the key's schema entry, right?
- 19:14 - Harkku #tybv: yeah
- 19:14 - Harkku #tybv: that isnt why it worked specifically though
- 19:14 - Harkku #tybv: valve just had it checking if the tool was usable, not if it was the right tool
- 19:15 - Gamemaster: Yes, I was aware
- 19:15 - Gamemaster: The giftapult could apply to crates.
- 19:15 - Harkku #tybv: they thought there was no need since only decoders used crates
- 19:15 - Gamemaster: Yeah.
- 19:15 - Gamemaster: Mind if I make an explanation post on reddit, describing the process?
- 19:15 - Gamemaster: With excerpts of entries and the like>
- 19:15 - Gamemaster: Of course, I'll credit the founders.
- 19:15 - Harkku #tybv: i would rather you didn
- 19:15 - Harkku #tybv: didn't*
- 19:15 - Gamemaster: Hmm. Damn.
- 19:15 - Gamemaster: Alright.
- 19:16 - Harkku #tybv: other people have vaguely explained but, but i don't know if valve wants it to be explained in detail
- 19:16 - Gamemaster: Why should they care?
- 19:16 - Harkku #tybv: it could clarify what kinds of things other people need to do to exploit
- 19:16 - Harkku #tybv: like
- 19:16 - Harkku #tybv: conditions
- 19:16 - Harkku #tybv: of something being applicable
- 19:16 - Gamemaster: So you don't want me to do it because of Valve's sake?
- 19:17 - Harkku #tybv: well yeah
- 19:17 - Gamemaster: pfft
- 19:17 - Harkku #tybv: i don't care, it's valve that might
- 19:17 - Gamemaster: In that case
- 19:17 - Gamemaster: I'm going to go ahead and do it
- 19:17 - Harkku #tybv: don't involve me in it then
- 19:17 - Gamemaster: I'll leave names out
- 19:18 - Harkku #tybv: no
- 19:18 - Harkku #tybv: just don't involve me at all
- 19:18 - Harkku #tybv: named or otherwise
- 19:18 - Gamemaster: I will reference the exploit, strictly. I concluded how you did it on my own.
- 19:18 - Harkku #tybv: right
- 21:22 - Gamemaster: Welp
- 21:22 - Gamemaster: I've planted the seed. People all over are curious as can be about how to exploit items_game.txt
- 21:23 - Gamemaster: I say its just desserts.
- 21:23 - Harkku #tybv: how's that?
- 21:23 - Gamemaster: They read my post
- 21:23 - Gamemaster: And are curious as can be
- 21:23 - Gamemaster: All three major discovered exploits
- 21:23 - Gamemaster: Involve it
- 21:23 - Gamemaster: You needn't worry
- 21:23 - Gamemaster: I took credit for the explanation of everything
- 21:23 - Gamemaster: It's all me
- 21:23 - Harkku #tybv: getting people to try exploits en masse won't get you a hat of your choice
- 21:24 - Gamemaster: Well trying to be civil and quiet won't either
- 21:24 - Gamemaster: I'm not going to get what I want trying to play fair
- 21:24 - Gamemaster: So instead of getting mad
- 21:24 - Gamemaster: I'm going to get even.
- 21:24 - Harkku #tybv: you're not going to get anything
- 21:24 - Gamemaster: I don't care anymore
- 21:24 - Gamemaster: You discovered a limited version of my exploit
- 21:24 - Harkku #tybv: you could have posted a pic of emailing them the bug and them fixing it
- 21:24 - Harkku #tybv: with proof
- 21:24 - Harkku #tybv: LOL
- 21:24 - Harkku #tybv: oh man
- 21:24 - Gamemaster: you got it in under 24 hours.
- 21:24 - Gamemaster: And yeah.
- 21:25 - Gamemaster: People would have just flamed me, saying I wasn't entitled.
- 21:25 - Gamemaster: I don't care
- 21:25 - Harkku #tybv: your exploit?
- 21:25 - Gamemaster: Yes.
- 21:25 - Harkku #tybv: now THATS entitled
- 21:25 - Harkku #tybv: asking for a fair reward isn't
- 21:25 - Gamemaster: I have asked
- 21:25 - Gamemaster: Several
- 21:25 - Gamemaster: Times
- 21:25 - Harkku #tybv: so you're being a dick?
- 21:25 - Harkku #tybv: good move there
- 21:25 - Gamemaster: Levels the playing field.
- 21:26 - Harkku #tybv: they'll sure reply now, right?
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: Hey
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: At least I'll get a response!
- 21:26 - Harkku #tybv: no you won't
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: That's more than I would have gotten before
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: Well
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: You see
- 21:26 - Harkku #tybv: people who find the exploits will get a response
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: Right now
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: I'm getting ignored.
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: I'll still get ignored
- 21:26 - Harkku #tybv: deservingly so
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: It's been since octover 2010
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: You're saying
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: That I should have been holding out for a change of hear for over 3 yeras
- 21:26 - Harkku #tybv: it's your own fault for not bringing attention to it for 4 years
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: Just on the offhance?
- 21:26 - Gamemaster: Oh
- 21:27 - Gamemaster: You mean actively talking to the team about it?
- 21:27 - Gamemaster: And hey
- 21:27 - Gamemaster: I just did, didn't I/
- 21:27 - Harkku #tybv: i mean actively talking to the community about it
- 21:27 - Gamemaster: I mentioend it on occassion
- 21:27 - Gamemaster: In fact
- 21:27 - Gamemaster: I did it once or twice publicly on spuf
- 21:27 - Harkku #tybv: now you've made a cynical, self entitled post to get what is basically a public army
- 21:27 - Harkku #tybv: to find exploits and abuse them
- 21:27 - Gamemaster: The admins specifically deleted my posts
- 21:27 - Gamemaster: You're goddamn right I did.
- 21:27 - Harkku #tybv: spuf is shitpost user forum
- 21:27 - Harkku #tybv: of course they deleted it
- 21:28 - Gamemaster: I don't see why the fuck you care
- 21:28 - Harkku #tybv: nearly every game valve developed has murder in it, they're hardly gonna cross the line of what is acceptable at the worst ass
- 21:28 - Harkku #tybv: word
- 21:28 - Gamemaster: Your enthusiam dropped once you knew you were being treated fairly.
- 21:28 - Harkku #tybv: no
- 21:28 - Harkku #tybv: it didn't
- 21:28 - Gamemaster: Never seen such a quick 180
- 21:28 - Harkku #tybv: it dropped when i realized every was encrypted
- 21:28 - Harkku #tybv: unless you're gabe
- 21:28 - Harkku #tybv: it wouldn't fucking work
- 21:29 - Harkku #tybv: do you have the encryption and decryption key?
- 21:29 - Harkku #tybv: 'cause until you do
- 21:29 - Gamemaster: Well, nope
- 21:29 - Harkku #tybv: there's no chance of packet editing working
- 21:29 - Gamemaster: But did you use one for your exploit?
- 21:29 - Harkku #tybv: none
- 21:29 - Gamemaster: Did errur?
- 21:29 - Harkku #tybv: you don't own any exploits and your behaviour isn't even excusable now
- 21:30 - Harkku #tybv: at least if you did it for attention, it'd be for attention to an unfair issue
- 21:30 - Gamemaster: What are you, my mother?
- 21:30 - Harkku #tybv: you just did it to get even
- 21:30 - Harkku #tybv: like a fucking child
- 21:30 - Gamemaster: What of it?
- 21:30 - Harkku #tybv: what of acting like a child?
- 21:30 - Harkku #tybv: you're an adult
- 21:30 - Harkku #tybv: grow up for fuck's sake
- 21:31 - Gamemaster: My oh my, how two-faced we've become.
- 21:31 - Gamemaster: Well, this was fun and all. Thanks for entertaining a concept.
- 21:31 - Harkku #tybv: you're quite good at hiding that self entitled, obsessive and poisonous personality
- 21:31 - Harkku #tybv: gonna post this all in that thread though
- 21:32 - Gamemaster: Hardly
- 21:32 - Harkku #tybv: you hid it for a day
- 21:32 - Harkku #tybv: for someone like you
- 21:32 - Gamemaster: Okay.
- 21:32 - Harkku #tybv: that's a long time
- 21:32 - Gamemaster: Seriously, hear me out
- 21:32 - Harkku #tybv: no
- 21:32 - Harkku #tybv: at this point you've fucked yourself over
- 21:32 - Harkku #tybv: i cannot salvage the mess you've made
- 21:32 - Gamemaster: I reported the original exploit on good intentions.
- 21:32 - Harkku #tybv: i explained to you why you shouldn't open that can of worms
- 21:32 - Gamemaster: Please, hear me out.
- 21:33 - Harkku #tybv: but you had to get even
- 21:33 - Gamemaster: You asked me not to associate you.
- 21:33 - Harkku #tybv: not by verifiable means
- 21:33 - Harkku #tybv: like posting proof
- 21:33 - Harkku #tybv: and getting people to email valve en masse for you
- 21:33 - Harkku #tybv: but by telling them how to find exploits
- 21:33 - Gamemaster: Like hell they're going to email en masse
- 21:33 - Harkku #tybv: of course they would
- 21:33 - Gamemaster: Think about what you're proposing.
- 21:33 - Gamemaster: You're saying
- 21:33 - Harkku #tybv: valve ignored us for 3 days
- 21:33 - Gamemaster: I should have posted a "look what I did!, now email for me!"
- 21:34 - Harkku #tybv: half the reason we actually got an email is because we posted a followup
- 21:34 - Harkku #tybv: and said we didnt get anything when asked
- 21:34 - Gamemaster: You're saying I should have used the masses in a selifsh manner, manipulatively making them my personal army.
- 21:34 - Harkku #tybv: you've already done it
- 21:35 - Harkku #tybv: don't try to act like you didn't post it with a motive when you've already said you fucking did it to get even
- 21:35 - Gamemaster: What I've posted is nothing more than educational in a sense. I piqued curiosities.
- 21:35 - Harkku #tybv: having motives doesn't make you an asshole
- 21:35 - Harkku #tybv: having asshole motives makes you an asshole
- 21:36 - Gamemaster: I'd say employing a personal army for selfish desires for something such as an item reward is purely asshole. What I've instead have done is educationally brought it to light. People misuse information all the time, it's bound to happen.
- 21:36 - Gamemaster: You honestly think what you've offered up is a good enough shroud?
- 21:36 - Gamemaster: A few days, asking around
- 21:36 - Gamemaster: Tinkering in a text file
- 21:36 - Gamemaster: That is completely unexcrypted
- 21:37 - Gamemaster: In plain text for god's sake.
- 21:37 - Gamemaster: is going to be hard?
- 21:37 - Gamemaster: And why go public with it in the first place?
- 21:37 - Harkku #tybv: oh what
- 21:37 - Gamemaster: You could have keep it under wraps, as to not provoke others.
- 21:37 - Harkku #tybv: and employing a personal army for your own selfish desires such as revenge is any better?
- 21:37 - Harkku #tybv: at least my motives weren't destructive
- 21:38 - Gamemaster: So wait
- 21:38 - Harkku #tybv: you're a sociopath, but you're not even a good one
- 21:38 - Harkku #tybv: you're fucking stupid
- 21:38 - Gamemaster: It's okay if the asshole motive isn't destructive?
- 21:38 - Harkku #tybv: having self interest doesn't make you selfish
- 21:38 - Gamemaster: Perhaps the opposite.
- 21:38 - Harkku #tybv: the fact that you don't grasp these simple concepts
- 21:38 - Gamemaster: To be honest
- 21:38 - Harkku #tybv: but can be so manipulative
- 21:38 - Gamemaster: With this as public knowledge
- 21:38 - Harkku #tybv: is retarded
- 21:38 - Gamemaster: WIth this as public knowledge
- 21:39 - Gamemaster: The more common exploits were be more quickly found
- 21:39 - Harkku #tybv: there are no more
- 21:39 - Gamemaster: If anything were to occur
- 21:39 - Harkku #tybv: valve fixed them all
- 21:39 - Gamemaster: It would be an influx.
- 21:39 - Harkku #tybv: you dumbfuck
- 21:39 - Harkku #tybv: you've just gotten yourself on their bad side
- 21:39 - Gamemaster: The influx would be quickly identififiable.
- 21:39 - Gamemaster: Thus patchwable.
- 21:39 - Harkku #tybv: there's nothing left to exploit
- 21:39 - Gamemaster: This will likely eliminiate the last of them in a short manner of time.
- 21:39 - Harkku #tybv: they made every tools and item check first
- 21:39 - Harkku #tybv: and compare server schem
- 21:40 - Harkku #tybv: all you've gone and done
- 21:40 - Gamemaster: Giftapults were relatively new, they offered a new spectrum not previously there.
- 21:40 - Harkku #tybv: is did it to be an asshole
- 21:40 - Harkku #tybv: and i can show them that
- 21:40 - Gamemaster: New updates will occur
- 21:40 - Gamemaster: New content will occur.
- 21:40 - Gamemaster: There will be new information.
- 21:40 - Harkku #tybv: and they'll have it made so it doesn't need to be fixed
- 21:40 - Harkku #tybv: you can convince reddit that you're neutral in this
- 21:40 - Harkku #tybv: but you can't manipulate a chat log m8
- 21:41 - Gamemaster: So you know the exact means in which everything was patched?
- 21:41 - Gamemaster: So now you're playing ill will as well?
- 21:41 - Harkku #tybv: how am i playing ill will?
- 21:41 - Gamemaster: Flaunting about, saying you're going to post it.
- 21:41 - Harkku #tybv: i was trying to stop you from committing community-related social suicide
- 21:41 - Harkku #tybv: i am
- 21:41 - Gamemaster: You're trying to cause it.
- 21:42 - Harkku #tybv: but you've proved to me what a dick you are about it
- 21:42 - Harkku #tybv: you tried to use me and what i know to get yourself a shiny hat, but was prepared to dick over the entire community
- 21:42 - Harkku #tybv: if you felt it necessary
- 21:42 - Harkku #tybv: that's what seperates you and i
- 21:42 - Gamemaster: I tried using you and your exploit?
- 21:42 - Harkku #tybv: i could have done it without being caught
- 21:42 - Harkku #tybv: but i didn't
- 21:43 - Gamemaster: That's nonsense.
- 21:43 - Gamemaster: I asked you to ask on my behalf, who I should contact.
- 21:43 - Gamemaster: Not to say I helped you
- 21:43 - Gamemaster: I didn't.
- 21:43 - Harkku #tybv: i told you to email the tf team contact on their site
- 21:43 - Harkku #tybv: which forwards it to everyone on the tf team
- 21:43 - Harkku #tybv: you dumbshit
- 21:43 - Gamemaster: you're just throwing about hostile insults
- 21:44 - Gamemaster: This is the pot calling the kettle black
- 21:44 - Gamemaster: You've been extensively demeaning and hateful. I don't see how you think your hostile behavior is justified.
- 21:44 - Harkku #tybv: usually i can clean up messes
- 21:44 - Harkku #tybv: but you've just gone too far retard to turn back
- 21:44 - Gamemaster: Alright then.
- 21:45 - Gamemaster: Then, I'll hear you out. In a calm, civilized manner.
- 21:45 - Harkku #tybv: and the fact that you've insulted me and been so backhanded
- 21:45 - Gamemaster: The eudcational information is about
- 21:45 - Gamemaster: Nothing more can be done
- 21:45 - Harkku #tybv: made me not really want to clean up for you
- 21:45 - Gamemaster: What is it, do you suggest, I do?
- 21:45 - Gamemaster: No insults. No arguing.
- 21:45 - Gamemaster: I am listening.
- 21:45 - Harkku #tybv: i suggest you learn to manage your own pr
- 21:45 - Harkku #tybv: and not insult a good manager
- 21:45 - Harkku #tybv: good luck
- 21:45 - Gamemaster is now Offline.
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