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  1. [20/07/2012 04:53:55] zzz: so what are you questions?
  2. [20/07/2012 05:53:00] zzz: Hi giggsy152! I’d like to add you on Skype. zzz  hey
  3. [20/07/2012 06:12:47] Ryan: Ryan has shared contact details with zzz.
  4. Ryan
  5. [20/07/2012 08:58:05] zzz: zzz has shared contact details with El Ryano.
  6. [20/07/2012 08:58:17] zzz: hey
  7. [20/07/2012 08:58:28] Ryan: Hey.
  8. [20/07/2012 08:58:51] Ryan: I just wanted to know your general experience of worjing with Messiah
  9. [20/07/2012 08:59:08] zzz: umm .. everyone has a different experience
  10. [20/07/2012 08:59:16] zzz: overall everyone around him likes him
  11. [20/07/2012 08:59:22] zzz: especially kleopatra
  12. [20/07/2012 08:59:40] Ryan: yeah, and I can't stand kelo
  13. [20/07/2012 08:59:44] Ryan: *kleo
  14. [20/07/2012 08:59:46] zzz: haha.. it's a cult
  15. [20/07/2012 09:00:00] zzz: the story with me and kleo was a morbid one
  16. [20/07/2012 09:00:11] zzz: kleo used to be wrathling
  17. [20/07/2012 09:00:17] zzz: her real name is emily wilson
  18. [20/07/2012 09:01:37] zzz: but yeah, i am not really into drama
  19. [20/07/2012 09:01:56] zzz: and solomid forum is censored
  20. [20/07/2012 09:02:02] Ryan: I don't want drama
  21. [20/07/2012 09:02:03] Ryan: I just want
  22. [20/07/2012 09:02:10] zzz: and i really dont want to this to go further
  23. [20/07/2012 09:02:12] Ryan: another view of who I could potentially be working for
  24. [20/07/2012 09:02:13] zzz: messiah got my point
  25. [20/07/2012 09:02:20] zzz: umm
  26. [20/07/2012 09:02:22] zzz: quick question
  27. [20/07/2012 09:02:25] zzz: do you get paid?
  28. [20/07/2012 09:02:34] zzz: it's an "internship"
  29. [20/07/2012 09:02:46] Ryan: Yup, that's what he said I'll be doing.
  30. [20/07/2012 09:03:00] Ryan: for article writing.
  31. [20/07/2012 09:03:12] Ryan: currently nothing as a standard mod.
  32. [20/07/2012 09:03:26] zzz: if you get paid .. i am glad things changed
  33. [20/07/2012 09:03:48] Ryan: well I'm not sure I entirely trust the statement that I will get paid.
  34. [20/07/2012 09:04:00] Ryan: quite a few if's about it
  35. [20/07/2012 09:04:06] zzz: umm i dont know
  36. [20/07/2012 09:04:14] zzz: i dont run solomid anymore
  37. [20/07/2012 09:04:20] Ryan: I noticed :P
  38. [20/07/2012 09:04:38] zzz: but my knowledge is Messiah is incompetent
  39. [20/07/2012 09:04:44] Ryan: but that's why I want to know more about his general character so I can work out for myself
  40. [20/07/2012 09:04:57] zzz: he says things to please your ears
  41. [20/07/2012 09:05:10] zzz: but will not mean it
  42. [20/07/2012 09:05:15] zzz: lol.. so funny after my post
  43. [20/07/2012 09:05:35] zzz: he tried to ddos.. or the ppl on his side "friends" ddos me
  44. [20/07/2012 09:05:43] zzz: as all registered forum account has ip addy
  45. [20/07/2012 09:05:59] Ryan: ..really o.o
  46. [20/07/2012 09:06:00] zzz: umm i have more than one internet line
  47. [20/07/2012 09:06:04] Ryan: seems...quite extreme
  48. [20/07/2012 09:06:16] zzz: umm .. my post was deleted
  49. [20/07/2012 09:06:24] zzz: they can say so many things about me
  50. [20/07/2012 09:06:29] Ryan: Well yeah. we both knew that was going to happen
  51. [20/07/2012 09:06:29] zzz: but when i refute what they said
  52. [20/07/2012 09:06:46] zzz: umm if i really want everyone to read
  53. [20/07/2012 09:06:50] zzz: i'd put it on youtube
  54. [20/07/2012 09:06:52] zzz:  or reddit
  55. [20/07/2012 09:06:56] zzz: i jsut want to be left alone
  56. [20/07/2012 09:06:58] zzz: and out of the drama
  57. [20/07/2012 09:07:06] zzz: like .. id dont even know valkasha
  58. [20/07/2012 09:07:10] zzz: and she says all this crap
  59. [20/07/2012 09:07:25] Ryan: It's because people were never told the truth about it
  60. [20/07/2012 09:07:37] zzz: yeah,, it would look really bad on solomid/ reginald
  61. [20/07/2012 09:07:39] Ryan: probably the same with the whole TRM incident to an extent
  62. [20/07/2012 09:07:42] zzz: if they were told the truth
  63. [20/07/2012 09:07:50] zzz: :/ .. rainman got shafted
  64. [20/07/2012 09:07:57] Ryan: No idea what happened with TRM, but it doesn't seem as simple as they make it seem
  65. [20/07/2012 09:08:04] zzz: yup
  66. [20/07/2012 09:08:18] zzz: umm i came into solomid with the intent of helping out
  67. [20/07/2012 09:08:24] zzz: i didn 't ask for fame
  68. [20/07/2012 09:08:47] zzz: at the same time, i am not a "maid" like valk claims to be
  69. [20/07/2012 09:08:52] zzz: me to be
  70. [20/07/2012 09:09:15] Ryan: well, I was probably the one person who said at the beginning it wouldn't work out well.
  71. [20/07/2012 09:09:26] zzz: huh?
  72. [20/07/2012 09:09:39] Ryan: Back when it was announced you'd be the coach
  73. [20/07/2012 09:09:57] Ryan: Everybody was saying how great it was, I predicted itd go badly.
  74. [20/07/2012 09:10:02] Ryan: But w/e, inda off topic
  75. [20/07/2012 09:10:04] zzz: umm
  76. [20/07/2012 09:10:04] Ryan: *kinda
  77. [20/07/2012 09:10:24] zzz: everything starts off with the relationship
  78. [20/07/2012 09:10:27] zzz: of regi and I
  79. [20/07/2012 09:10:34] zzz: I was involved in solomid way before anyone knows me
  80. [20/07/2012 09:10:39] zzz: i dont like to be known
  81. [20/07/2012 09:10:45] zzz: so when solomid first started
  82. [20/07/2012 09:10:48] zzz: i was regi's advisor
  83. [20/07/2012 09:10:50] zzz: strategist
  84. [20/07/2012 09:10:53] zzz: mento
  85. [20/07/2012 09:10:55] zzz: mentor
  86. [20/07/2012 09:10:59] zzz: COO/ CFO
  87. [20/07/2012 09:11:03] zzz: nobody knew me
  88. [20/07/2012 09:11:11] zzz: so when regi "made" smart business decision
  89. [20/07/2012 09:11:12] Ryan: Seems quite selfless
  90. [20/07/2012 09:11:18] zzz: everyone thinks regi
  91. [20/07/2012 09:11:24] zzz: was the smart bussiness man
  92. [20/07/2012 09:11:29] zzz: if i never flew to new york
  93. [20/07/2012 09:11:32] zzz: and stayed in the shadows
  94. [20/07/2012 09:11:46] zzz: everything .. business wise with solomid wouldhave been great
  95. [20/07/2012 09:11:59] zzz: but TSM as a team was falling on hard times
  96. [20/07/2012 09:12:04] zzz: regi had an over agressive ego
  97. [20/07/2012 09:12:11] zzz: worked too much hours on solomid
  98. [20/07/2012 09:12:13] zzz: and was not focus
  99. [20/07/2012 09:12:21] zzz: the team was a bunch of kids who could not work together
  100. [20/07/2012 09:12:28] zzz: and could not take care of themselves
  101. [20/07/2012 09:12:45] zzz: Valk blames everything on the rainman
  102. [20/07/2012 09:12:53] zzz: but the main person at fault was Reginald
  103. [20/07/2012 09:12:57] zzz: since he's the boss
  104. [20/07/2012 09:13:01] zzz: everyone just shuts up
  105. [20/07/2012 09:13:05] zzz: and stayed quiet
  106. [20/07/2012 09:13:15] zzz: check all the past plays
  107. [20/07/2012 09:13:21] zzz: and all the recording of how brutal
  108. [20/07/2012 09:13:27] zzz: regi was to his teammates
  109. [20/07/2012 09:13:41] Ryan: Yeah, a lot of people realised that at the time.
  110. [20/07/2012 09:13:45] zzz: ummm
  111. [20/07/2012 09:13:47] Ryan: I remember
  112. [20/07/2012 09:13:49] zzz: so when i came in
  113. [20/07/2012 09:13:51] Ryan: there was a huge argument
  114. [20/07/2012 09:13:52] zzz: i fixed all the team problem
  115. [20/07/2012 09:13:55] zzz: s
  116. [20/07/2012 09:13:56] Ryan: which went on for over half an hour
  117. [20/07/2012 09:13:58] Ryan: on livestream
  118. [20/07/2012 09:14:00] zzz: yeah
  119. [20/07/2012 09:14:29] zzz: umm the worst thing was ppl started giving jonas too much credit
  120. [20/07/2012 09:14:45] zzz: Regi got jealous
  121. [20/07/2012 09:14:52] zzz: thought i was trying to take over his company
  122. [20/07/2012 09:14:55] zzz: which i did not
  123. [20/07/2012 09:15:18] Ryan: Well, Messiah's words are
  124. [20/07/2012 09:15:23] Ryan: for those of you who aren't aware, jonas is not welcome here
  125. if jonas posts anything just delete all his posts and ban the account (make sure not to ipban)
  126.  
  127. tl;dr version of what happened: he wanted to rip us off, got emo that we aren't retarded and made lots of threats towards us. for those of you who over glorify him as the savior of tsm, you should know that he's really not and did not get along with many of the team members nor staff
  128. [20/07/2012 09:15:31] Ryan: (In mod section)
  129. [20/07/2012 09:15:43] zzz: lol
  130. [20/07/2012 09:15:51] zzz: total bullshit
  131. [20/07/2012 09:16:04] Ryan: Yeah, I'm not exactly one to just believe one side.
  132. [20/07/2012 09:16:06] zzz: how did i rip tsm off
  133. [20/07/2012 09:16:10] Ryan: Hence I wanted to talk to you.
  134. [20/07/2012 09:16:14] zzz: woah
  135. [20/07/2012 09:16:26] zzz: now i feel like going on youtbe and telling the whole story
  136. [20/07/2012 09:16:30] Ryan: I never was your biggest fan, some way off that. But that seems totally out of your character.
  137. [20/07/2012 09:16:40] zzz: woah
  138. [20/07/2012 09:16:44] zzz: i was right
  139. [20/07/2012 09:16:49] zzz: messiah is a dbag
  140. [20/07/2012 09:16:49] zzz: haha
  141. [20/07/2012 09:16:55] Ryan: You seem surprised? :P
  142. [20/07/2012 09:16:57] zzz: he wanted to come to the tsm house
  143. [20/07/2012 09:16:59] zzz: nah
  144. [20/07/2012 09:17:01] zzz: i am not suprise
  145. [20/07/2012 09:17:07] zzz: just suprise that he went that far
  146. [20/07/2012 09:17:08] zzz: to flame me
  147. [20/07/2012 09:17:22] zzz: i knew he was a two faced person
  148. [20/07/2012 09:17:26] zzz: but .. for him to do that
  149. [20/07/2012 09:17:36] Ryan: Just done to get mods on his side
  150. [20/07/2012 09:17:38] Ryan: I'm guessing.
  151. [20/07/2012 09:18:10] zzz: haha
  152. [20/07/2012 09:18:16] zzz: did he post that today?
  153. [20/07/2012 09:18:19] zzz: or a long time ago?
  154. [20/07/2012 09:18:23] Ryan: Yeah, after your post.
  155. [20/07/2012 09:18:31] zzz: haha
  156. [20/07/2012 09:18:55] zzz: umm .. there was alot of crap from messiah
  157. [20/07/2012 09:18:56] zzz: going on
  158. [20/07/2012 09:19:00] zzz: so i just go sick of it
  159. [20/07/2012 09:19:02] zzz: so i put that post
  160. [20/07/2012 09:19:19] zzz: umm all the "mod" and ppl drink the messiah juice
  161. [20/07/2012 09:19:43] Ryan: Well, like I've said before. People still don't know the true story.
  162. [20/07/2012 09:20:02] Ryan: I've had to go onto your youtube, message you and get you on skype to even start and understand things
  163. [20/07/2012 09:20:09] Ryan: Everybody else is in complete ignorance.
  164. [20/07/2012 09:20:16] zzz: lol..
  165. [20/07/2012 09:20:29] zzz: umm .. tbh
  166. [20/07/2012 09:20:36] zzz: if they did not talk shit abo me
  167. [20/07/2012 09:20:38] zzz: aboutme
  168. [20/07/2012 09:20:44] zzz: i would never post that stuf
  169. [20/07/2012 09:20:53] zzz: umm
  170. [20/07/2012 09:20:55] zzz: it it is not tr
  171. [20/07/2012 09:20:56] zzz: true
  172. [20/07/2012 09:21:02] zzz: why did he delete it so quick
  173. [20/07/2012 09:21:03] zzz: lol
  174. [20/07/2012 09:21:48] zzz: now i am tempted  to post everything on you tube
  175. [20/07/2012 09:22:00] Ryan: Well, I pointed him towards the post.
  176. [20/07/2012 09:22:04] Ryan: Then he deleted it.
  177. [20/07/2012 09:22:07] zzz: lol
  178. [20/07/2012 09:22:11] Ryan: I wanted to know what went on
  179. [20/07/2012 09:22:15] Ryan: Didn't get that info
  180. [20/07/2012 09:22:17] Ryan: zzzz
  181. [20/07/2012 09:22:24] Ryan: So yeah, here I am.
  182. [20/07/2012 09:22:34] zzz: well.. i'll just let this one slip
  183. [20/07/2012 09:22:37] zzz: i dont really care
  184. [20/07/2012 09:22:38] zzz: i do
  185. [20/07/2012 09:22:49] zzz: but i'll just create a wave of drama
  186. [20/07/2012 09:23:08] Ryan: Well, you cannot be annoyed with people talking shit if you don't tell them the truth
  187. [20/07/2012 09:23:19] zzz: then they will hate on regi
  188. [20/07/2012 09:23:19] zzz: haha
  189. [20/07/2012 09:23:28] zzz: umm do you have a brother?
  190. [20/07/2012 09:23:35] Ryan: Yes, two younger.
  191. [20/07/2012 09:23:41] zzz: sibling rivalry
  192. [20/07/2012 09:23:55] Ryan: Not really. They actually look up to me, for some unknown reason.
  193. [20/07/2012 09:24:00] zzz: haha
  194. [20/07/2012 09:24:01] zzz: depends
  195. [20/07/2012 09:24:04] zzz: on the family structure
  196. [20/07/2012 09:24:07] Ryan: They're quite a bit younger.
  197. [20/07/2012 09:24:10] Ryan: So, yeah.
  198. [20/07/2012 09:24:16] zzz: haha
  199. [20/07/2012 09:24:22] zzz: i am still laughing on how i try to rip
  200. [20/07/2012 09:24:23] zzz: tsm off
  201. [20/07/2012 09:24:27] zzz: wth did i do
  202. [20/07/2012 09:24:28] Ryan: any idea
  203. [20/07/2012 09:24:32] Ryan: where that even came from?
  204. [20/07/2012 09:24:59] Ryan: or is it just pure fabrication
  205. [20/07/2012 09:25:17] zzz: ummm .. the drama will have to be pull back
  206. [20/07/2012 09:25:23] zzz: since day 1 of how solomid was created
  207. [20/07/2012 09:25:28] zzz: Dan screwed regi over
  208. [20/07/2012 09:25:40] zzz: at IPL4.. after the team beat dignitas
  209. [20/07/2012 09:25:47] zzz: regi took off to get drunk with his friends
  210. [20/07/2012 09:25:52] zzz: i had to take care of the team
  211. [20/07/2012 09:26:00] zzz: we all went to a buffet
  212. [20/07/2012 09:26:07] zzz: there was xpecial gf
  213. [20/07/2012 09:26:12] zzz: with some other ppl
  214. [20/07/2012 09:26:25] zzz: i paid for them with my own credit card and joked that it's on solomid
  215. [20/07/2012 09:26:38] zzz: Chaox snitched on me to reginald
  216. [20/07/2012 09:26:41] zzz: reginald go drunked
  217. [20/07/2012 09:26:49] zzz: told amy "starsorrow"
  218. [20/07/2012 09:26:53] zzz: amy star sorrow told me about it
  219. [20/07/2012 09:27:02] zzz: when someone accused me of somethign I did not do
  220. [20/07/2012 09:27:05] zzz: i got fucken pissed
  221. [20/07/2012 09:27:18] Ryan: ....sounds like Chinese whispers.
  222. [20/07/2012 09:27:28] zzz: regi said i was being like Dan and taking advantage of him
  223. [20/07/2012 09:27:33] zzz: if you knew what Dan did to regi
  224. [20/07/2012 09:27:39] zzz: you would be disgusted
  225. [20/07/2012 09:27:42] Ryan: I thought Dan and regi got along well
  226. [20/07/2012 09:27:45] zzz: so I was like the fuck
  227. [20/07/2012 09:27:48] zzz: ummm
  228. [20/07/2012 09:27:54] zzz: they get along well to team up against me
  229. [20/07/2012 09:27:58] zzz: a few years back
  230. [20/07/2012 09:28:00] zzz: regi told me something
  231. [20/07/2012 09:28:06] zzz: you know what Dat,
  232. [20/07/2012 09:28:11] zzz: Dan and i went camping
  233. [20/07/2012 09:28:17] zzz: and we found out we have something in common
  234. [20/07/2012 09:28:25] zzz: we both hate you bc we try to catch up to you
  235. [20/07/2012 09:28:32] zzz: but we cannot so we hate your for it
  236. [20/07/2012 09:28:37] zzz: in school i was the best in the family
  237. [20/07/2012 09:28:42] zzz: in sports i was the best in the family
  238. [20/07/2012 09:28:54] zzz: when it came to work and jobs, i made money
  239. [20/07/2012 09:29:04] zzz: that was before reginald grew solomid to a multi-million dollar company
  240. [20/07/2012 09:29:10] zzz: so when my existence appeared
  241. [20/07/2012 09:29:26] zzz: regi got jealous that i got all the credit
  242. [20/07/2012 09:29:36] zzz: people were calling regi dumb
  243. [20/07/2012 09:29:57] zzz: umm most of the business plan from prior to solomid developed an interact
  244. [20/07/2012 09:30:00] zzz: was me advising him
  245. [20/07/2012 09:30:05] Ryan: But how did dan screw regi over?
  246. [20/07/2012 09:30:09] zzz: ummm
  247. [20/07/2012 09:30:10] zzz: sorry
  248. [20/07/2012 09:30:16] zzz: i dont want to bring dan down the drain
  249. [20/07/2012 09:30:23] Ryan: Ah, that's fine.
  250. [20/07/2012 09:30:29] zzz: so everyone was like
  251. [20/07/2012 09:30:32] Ryan: I'm just compeletely surprised by that.
  252. [20/07/2012 09:30:37] zzz: woah.. regii is soo smart
  253. [20/07/2012 09:31:35] zzz: the thing with messiah and myself was this
  254. [20/07/2012 09:31:38] zzz: when i left solomid
  255. [20/07/2012 09:31:46] zzz: i requested to have all my content be removed
  256. [20/07/2012 09:31:50] zzz: all my youtube video be removed
  257. [20/07/2012 09:32:02] zzz: messiah gave me the middle finger
  258. [20/07/2012 09:32:08] zzz: i am like there two choice
  259. [20/07/2012 09:32:10] Ryan: ...really?
  260. [20/07/2012 09:32:15] zzz: talk to my lawyer
  261. [20/07/2012 09:32:20] zzz: or.. but the funny thing was
  262. [20/07/2012 09:32:28] zzz: i created the solomid store from scratch
  263. [20/07/2012 09:32:32] zzz: it was my baby
  264. [20/07/2012 09:32:48] zzz: i told regi to open the store  in june of 2011
  265. [20/07/2012 09:32:52] zzz: he tells me he will
  266. [20/07/2012 09:33:01] zzz: after the reease of the updated website
  267. [20/07/2012 09:33:11] zzz: initially
  268. [20/07/2012 09:33:13] zzz: regi said
  269. [20/07/2012 09:33:19] zzz: who the hell is going to buy the shirts
  270. [20/07/2012 09:33:24] zzz: i am like.. create a brand name
  271. [20/07/2012 09:33:24] zzz: market it right
  272. [20/07/2012 09:33:31] zzz: and sales will be very wel
  273. [20/07/2012 09:33:44] zzz: regi tlold me he will have deveopers work on the store
  274. [20/07/2012 09:33:49] zzz: and have it open in september
  275. [20/07/2012 09:33:54] zzz: september came and pass
  276. [20/07/2012 09:33:57] zzz: i told him again
  277. [20/07/2012 09:34:00] zzz: he said october
  278. [20/07/2012 09:34:04] zzz: october came and pass
  279. [20/07/2012 09:34:06] zzz: i reminded him again
  280. [20/07/2012 09:34:11] zzz: then november
  281. [20/07/2012 09:34:12] zzz: then december
  282. [20/07/2012 09:34:16] zzz: then i got pissed
  283. [20/07/2012 09:34:21] zzz: and opened the store by myself
  284. [20/07/2012 09:34:27] zzz: that's why it looked so unprofessionally done
  285. [20/07/2012 09:34:39] zzz: i got all the vendors
  286. [20/07/2012 09:34:41] Ryan: I didn't see it at the start.
  287. [20/07/2012 09:34:42] zzz: created the account
  288. [20/07/2012 09:34:44] Ryan: so can't say.
  289. [20/07/2012 09:35:02] zzz: so i had access to i
  290. [20/07/2012 09:35:09] zzz: umm
  291. [20/07/2012 09:35:11] zzz: when i left
  292. [20/07/2012 09:35:55] zzz: i used the store as the barganing chip to have them removed my content
  293. [20/07/2012 09:35:57] zzz: and videos
  294. [20/07/2012 09:36:04] zzz: the store was making 1-2k a day
  295. [20/07/2012 09:36:07] zzz: as ahigh as 17k
  296. [20/07/2012 09:36:26] zzz: so regi had messiah removed all my content
  297. [20/07/2012 09:36:32] Ryan: ...why did you want your content removed so badly?
  298. [20/07/2012 09:36:36] zzz: ummm
  299. [20/07/2012 09:36:49] zzz: i did not want to be associated with solomid
  300. [20/07/2012 09:36:50] Ryan: and you could have easily done that yourself couldn't you?
  301. [20/07/2012 09:36:54] zzz: nope
  302. [20/07/2012 09:37:28] Ryan: well, I can hide all my posts as just a mod. You was an admin.
  303. [20/07/2012 09:37:39] zzz: umm
  304. [20/07/2012 09:37:46] zzz: that was when they stripped my access
  305. [20/07/2012 09:37:53] Ryan: Oh, they just did that without any warning?
  306. [20/07/2012 09:37:57] zzz: yup
  307. [20/07/2012 09:38:01] Ryan: ...oh.
  308. [20/07/2012 09:38:08] Ryan: Figured there'd be...something.
  309. [20/07/2012 09:38:23] zzz: my ideology of business
  310. [20/07/2012 09:38:26] zzz: is grow fan based
  311. [20/07/2012 09:38:33] zzz: with numbers money will come later
  312. [20/07/2012 09:38:54] zzz: i wanted to focus and use the store's revenue to give back to the community
  313. [20/07/2012 09:39:04] zzz: that's why when i was in ny
  314. [20/07/2012 09:39:09] zzz: dyrus . oddone/ xpecial
  315. [20/07/2012 09:39:16] zzz: even rainman and chaox
  316. [20/07/2012 09:39:20] zzz: was giving away free shirts
  317. [20/07/2012 09:39:23] zzz: and etc
  318. [20/07/2012 09:39:34] zzz: wanted more fan involvement
  319. [20/07/2012 09:39:43] zzz: when i first opened the store
  320. [20/07/2012 09:39:51] zzz: it made a few hundered dollars a day
  321. [20/07/2012 09:39:56] zzz: soon it was 1-2k
  322. [20/07/2012 09:40:05] zzz: almost as much as what the site was doing
  323. [20/07/2012 09:40:19] zzz: regi wanted all the profits without giving back
  324. [20/07/2012 09:40:37] zzz: ummm i was not for the twitch.tv
  325. [20/07/2012 09:40:47] Ryan: well, maximising profit is somewhat understandable
  326. [20/07/2012 09:40:51] zzz: wanted to work with own3d for a more amicable
  327. [20/07/2012 09:40:58] zzz: solution
  328. [20/07/2012 09:40:58] Ryan: ....and fuck twitch.tv
  329. [20/07/2012 09:41:06] Ryan: No idea what happened behind the scenes
  330. [20/07/2012 09:41:12] zzz: umm
  331. [20/07/2012 09:41:14] Ryan: But fuck twitch.tv
  332.  
  333. awful in europe
  334. [20/07/2012 09:41:20] zzz: profiits in the short run
  335. [20/07/2012 09:41:21] zzz: is stupid
  336. [20/07/2012 09:41:32] zzz: if you want to grow your brand name like nike
  337. [20/07/2012 09:41:44] zzz: you got to  heaviy invest in marketing
  338. [20/07/2012 09:41:51] zzz: and actively promote the community
  339. [20/07/2012 09:42:07] zzz: if everything is done correctly
  340. [20/07/2012 09:42:17] zzz: the store would make not only 1-2k a day
  341. [20/07/2012 09:42:25] zzz: but maybe 10-20k
  342. [20/07/2012 09:42:44] zzz: people who care too much for the short term outlook
  343. [20/07/2012 09:42:53] zzz: could not see far into the future
  344. [20/07/2012 09:43:38] zzz: umm solomid over traffic went down 15-25% after i left
  345. [20/07/2012 09:43:54] Ryan: Wait, sorry to go back for a second
  346. [20/07/2012 09:44:04] Ryan: But would own3d really have been better in the long run?
  347. [20/07/2012 09:44:19] Ryan: (Despite my hate for twitch, it seems to be on the up)
  348. [20/07/2012 09:44:40] zzz: umm the overall growth of esports gaming
  349. [20/07/2012 09:45:24] zzz: has not grown much
  350. [20/07/2012 09:45:30] Ryan: really?
  351. [20/07/2012 09:45:30] zzz: i mean it has grown
  352. [20/07/2012 09:45:33] zzz: alot
  353. [20/07/2012 09:45:36] zzz: but solomid
  354. [20/07/2012 09:45:41] zzz: did not take advantage
  355. [20/07/2012 09:45:44] zzz: of the growth
  356. [20/07/2012 09:45:59] Ryan: well, it's become the #1 LoL franchise.
  357. [20/07/2012 09:46:03 | Edited 09:46:06] Ryan: Hasn't done too badly.
  358. [20/07/2012 09:46:08] zzz: ummm
  359. [20/07/2012 09:46:16] zzz: not where i projected it to be
  360. [20/07/2012 09:46:20] Ryan: Not saying it couldn't have been better.
  361. [20/07/2012 09:46:45] zzz: umm i am not trying to discredit andy/reginald
  362. [20/07/2012 09:46:49] zzz: solomid.net
  363. [20/07/2012 09:46:53] zzz: is the number one website for lol
  364. [20/07/2012 09:46:53] zzz: right now
  365. [20/07/2012 09:47:16] zzz: it was the number 1 website
  366. [20/07/2012 09:47:17] zzz: when i was there
  367. [20/07/2012 09:47:23] zzz: and still the number 1 website
  368. [20/07/2012 09:49:02] Ryan: Heh.
  369. [20/07/2012 09:49:09] zzz: but to be big like curse
  370. [20/07/2012 09:49:21] zzz: resources needed to be allocated in the right place
  371. [20/07/2012 09:49:31] zzz: lol is not going to be around forever
  372. [20/07/2012 09:49:42] zzz: it has another 5 yr life span
  373. [20/07/2012 09:49:44] zzz: maybe more
  374. [20/07/2012 09:49:55] zzz: solomid is worth 5-7 million right now
  375. [20/07/2012 09:50:03] zzz: to make it grow to 50-100 million
  376. [20/07/2012 09:50:16] zzz: it has to allocate resources efficiently
  377. [20/07/2012 09:50:23] zzz: regi will do fine in his
  378. [20/07/2012 09:50:27] zzz: llfe
  379. [20/07/2012 09:50:29] zzz: he is set
  380. [20/07/2012 09:50:52] zzz: i am just sick of people accusing me of abandoning tsm
  381. [20/07/2012 09:51:10] Ryan: Like I said, as long as people don't know what actually happened
  382. [20/07/2012 09:51:21] Ryan: They will continue to accuse you of that.
  383. [20/07/2012 09:51:37] Ryan: it's natural they'll just follow what TSM say
  384. [20/07/2012 09:51:41] Ryan: when nobody counters them,
  385. [20/07/2012 09:51:54] zzz: well the gaming world is not my world
  386. [20/07/2012 09:51:55] zzz: haha
  387. [20/07/2012 09:52:10] Ryan: as for their expansion, they at least have DoTA 2, and are apparetnly looking to get into pokemon of all the things.
  388. [20/07/2012 09:52:41] zzz: umm ... tbh.. reginald does not need me.. "without me he will do fine"
  389. [20/07/2012 09:52:53] zzz: i choose to leave solomid on my on volition
  390. [20/07/2012 09:53:04] zzz: when reginald accused me of things
  391. [20/07/2012 09:53:15] zzz: and the way he acted towards me out of jealousy
  392. [20/07/2012 09:53:20] zzz: han/messiah
  393. [20/07/2012 09:53:27] zzz: told everyone the opposite story
  394. [20/07/2012 09:53:35] zzz: if i was really all for the money
  395. [20/07/2012 09:53:39] zzz: why the hell would i walk away
  396. [20/07/2012 09:53:41] zzz: and step down
  397. [20/07/2012 09:53:56] Ryan: Yes, I've already established that's pretty much bs
  398. [20/07/2012 09:54:02] zzz: so the story with quinn/kleo
  399. [20/07/2012 09:54:07] zzz: is as follows
  400. [20/07/2012 09:54:21] zzz: i broke up with my gf / finacee 5 plus years ago
  401. [20/07/2012 09:54:28] zzz: quit my job of amking almost 100k
  402. [20/07/2012 09:54:32] Ryan: This should be itnersting. Nobody I dislike on solomid more than her.
  403. [20/07/2012 09:54:37] Ryan: ..ouch
  404. [20/07/2012 09:54:39] zzz: i went off the grid
  405. [20/07/2012 09:54:48] zzz: the only person i helped out was regi
  406. [20/07/2012 09:54:51] zzz: when he started solomid
  407. [20/07/2012 09:54:56] zzz: i was his cfo/coo/advisor mentor
  408. [20/07/2012 09:55:02] zzz: however, only part time
  409. [20/07/2012 09:55:06] zzz: as i spent my days fishing
  410. [20/07/2012 09:55:09] zzz: and enjoying life
  411. [20/07/2012 09:55:16] zzz: regi begged me to join him
  412. [20/07/2012 09:55:18] zzz: i said no
  413. [20/07/2012 09:55:22] zzz: family and business does not mixed
  414. [20/07/2012 09:55:28] zzz: on the winter of last year
  415. [20/07/2012 09:55:33] zzz: regi invited me to vegas with him
  416. [20/07/2012 09:55:41] zzz: i said okay
  417. [20/07/2012 09:55:44] zzz: they all went shopping
  418. [20/07/2012 09:55:53] zzz: they bought 600 dollar shoes
  419. [20/07/2012 09:56:01] zzz: nice suits
  420. [20/07/2012 09:56:02] zzz: and etc
  421. [20/07/2012 09:56:05] zzz: they then looked at me
  422. [20/07/2012 09:56:12] zzz: and asked if i were to buy anything
  423. [20/07/2012 09:56:13] zzz: i am like nope
  424. [20/07/2012 09:56:21] zzz: just teams and dress shirt will be fine
  425. [20/07/2012 09:56:25] zzz: then they gave me a weird look
  426. [20/07/2012 09:56:31] zzz: so then i decided to not go
  427. [20/07/2012 09:56:31] zzz: i told them
  428. [20/07/2012 09:56:44] zzz: i am not a peacock so i wont go with them to vegas
  429. [20/07/2012 09:56:55] zzz: i then emailed regi telling him he's changed so much
  430. [20/07/2012 09:56:59] zzz: and i dont want to help him anymore
  431. [20/07/2012 09:57:04] zzz: regi appologized
  432. [20/07/2012 09:57:10] zzz: and asked me to continue to help him out
  433. [20/07/2012 09:57:13] zzz: i am like okay
  434. [20/07/2012 09:57:21] zzz: then came the NY incident
  435. [20/07/2012 09:57:26] zzz: when tsm did SOO BAd
  436. [20/07/2012 09:57:35] zzz: I was regi/ dans wrestling coach
  437. [20/07/2012 09:57:40] zzz: on my first year
  438. [20/07/2012 09:57:44] zzz: at the school i taught
  439. [20/07/2012 09:57:52] zzz: we broke every possible record
  440. [20/07/2012 09:58:09] zzz: i did not teach kids how to wrestle with brute strength
  441. [20/07/2012 09:58:15] zzz: but howto used their minds
  442. [20/07/2012 09:58:22] zzz: when i packed my bags and left
  443. [20/07/2012 09:58:26] zzz: dan asked me where i was going
  444. [20/07/2012 09:58:29] zzz: i told him
  445. [20/07/2012 09:58:33] zzz: i am going to turn tsm around
  446. [20/07/2012 09:58:39] zzz: he gave me one look
  447. [20/07/2012 09:58:43] zzz: and laughed at me
  448. [20/07/2012 09:58:50] zzz: So when i was in NY
  449. [20/07/2012 09:58:55] zzz: i met emily wilson
  450. [20/07/2012 09:58:59] zzz: now known as kleopatra
  451. [20/07/2012 09:59:11] zzz: she told me how she was almost raped when she was younger
  452. [20/07/2012 09:59:17] zzz: and how she got dumped by all the boys
  453. [20/07/2012 09:59:26] zzz: and how she is always sad and crying
  454. [20/07/2012 09:59:31] zzz: i tried to be a friend
  455. [20/07/2012 09:59:39] zzz: so even though i was working 60-80 hrs a week
  456. [20/07/2012 09:59:45] zzz: i always tried to be there for her
  457. [20/07/2012 09:59:58] Ryan: this sounds like it's going the same way as Calin
  458. [20/07/2012 10:00:24] zzz: emily/calin office broke down.. i offered to buy her the latest version
  459. [20/07/2012 10:00:28] zzz: she said no
  460. [20/07/2012 10:00:37] zzz: so i rippd it off my comp on a usb and mailed them to her
  461. [20/07/2012 10:00:47] zzz: she has such a low self esteem
  462. [20/07/2012 10:00:55] zzz: so i sent her a tsm shirt to cheer her up
  463. [20/07/2012 10:01:04] zzz: then she told me she wanted to be a moderator
  464. [20/07/2012 10:01:07] zzz: but messiah rejected her
  465. [20/07/2012 10:01:08] zzz: i am like NP
  466. [20/07/2012 10:01:14] zzz: i skype messiah
  467. [20/07/2012 10:01:26] zzz: and told him to give her a moderator position
  468. [20/07/2012 10:01:30] zzz: he did
  469. [20/07/2012 10:01:33] zzz: bc i was messiah's boss
  470. [20/07/2012 10:01:42] zzz: umm the position was unpaid
  471. [20/07/2012 10:01:51] zzz: so to cheer emily up
  472. [20/07/2012 10:01:56] zzz: i sent her 100 bucks
  473. [20/07/2012 10:02:05] zzz: through paypal
  474. [20/07/2012 10:02:07] Ryan: ...well, that just seems irresponsible
  475. [20/07/2012 10:02:08] zzz: saying
  476. [20/07/2012 10:02:16] zzz: from me?
  477. [20/07/2012 10:02:19] Ryan: Yes.
  478. [20/07/2012 10:02:21] zzz: umm she's good in english
  479. [20/07/2012 10:02:33] zzz: he writing might be better than yours
  480. [20/07/2012 10:02:46] zzz: it's a guide modertor position for goodness sakes
  481. [20/07/2012 10:03:05] zzz: then i realize that emily was just using me to get attention
  482. [20/07/2012 10:03:09] zzz: so i stopped talking to her
  483. [20/07/2012 10:03:23] zzz: y
  484. [20/07/2012 10:03:24] zzz: bc before she would call me everyda
  485. [20/07/2012 10:03:26] zzz: and she would cry
  486. [20/07/2012 10:03:34] zzz: and i would tryto cheer her up
  487. [20/07/2012 10:03:40] zzz: i realize she's pretty strong
  488. [20/07/2012 10:03:46] zzz: does not need my help
  489. [20/07/2012 10:03:50] zzz: so i told her
  490. [20/07/2012 10:03:57] zzz: i am a wanderer
  491. [20/07/2012 10:04:02] zzz: i am not really a good friend
  492. [20/07/2012 10:04:05] zzz: i will one day disappear
  493. [20/07/2012 10:04:11] zzz: she got all emo on me
  494. [20/07/2012 10:04:16] zzz: ..umm
  495. [20/07/2012 10:04:23] zzz: next with the reginald incident
  496. [20/07/2012 10:04:33] zzz: messiah/pyron spread rumors about me
  497. [20/07/2012 10:04:37] zzz: emily texted me
  498. [20/07/2012 10:04:44] zzz: why were you so fucked up to regi
  499. [20/07/2012 10:04:47] zzz: i am like.. woah
  500. [20/07/2012 10:05:00] zzz: you did not ask me what happened but you accused me already
  501. [20/07/2012 10:05:04] zzz: she asked me what happened
  502. [20/07/2012 10:05:07] zzz: i am like. what's the point
  503. [20/07/2012 10:05:10] zzz: you took a side already
  504. [20/07/2012 10:05:17] Ryan: why would they spread those rumours in the first place?
  505. [20/07/2012 10:05:23] zzz: ummm
  506. [20/07/2012 10:05:29] zzz: what do people like to do
  507. [20/07/2012 10:05:32] zzz: when they are online?
  508. [20/07/2012 10:05:32] zzz: and talking?
  509. [20/07/2012 10:05:49] Ryan: You don't just random;y screw over people you work with.
  510. [20/07/2012 10:05:57] zzz: haha
  511. [20/07/2012 10:05:59] zzz: sorry bro
  512. [20/07/2012 10:06:01] Ryan: That person hsa to at the bery least antagonise you
  513. [20/07/2012 10:06:03] Ryan: in some way.
  514. [20/07/2012 10:06:03] zzz: but the real work world
  515. [20/07/2012 10:06:09] zzz: is a dog eat dog world
  516. [20/07/2012 10:06:12] zzz: oh yeah
  517. [20/07/2012 10:06:17] zzz: btw.. i yelled at messiah
  518. [20/07/2012 10:06:23] zzz: bc
  519. [20/07/2012 10:06:28] zzz: when we first started a projected
  520. [20/07/2012 10:06:33] zzz: we had a date
  521. [20/07/2012 10:06:38] zzz: and i had ask him if he needed more time
  522. [20/07/2012 10:06:43] zzz: he promised me he would get it done
  523. [20/07/2012 10:06:50] zzz: he ended up being 2 weeks late
  524. [20/07/2012 10:07:00] zzz: and i asked him what happened
  525. [20/07/2012 10:07:04] zzz: he said he had other things to do
  526. [20/07/2012 10:07:06] zzz: i am like
  527. [20/07/2012 10:07:12] zzz: umm why the hell did you not tell me
  528. [20/07/2012 10:07:19] zzz: that's very irresponsible of you
  529. [20/07/2012 10:07:33] zzz: the first level of business i did when i took over / manage solomid
  530. [20/07/2012 10:07:34] zzz: was change the backened
  531. [20/07/2012 10:07:41] zzz: the program was poorly written
  532. [20/07/2012 10:07:49] zzz: messiah does not know how to code
  533. [20/07/2012 10:07:54] zzz: so he did not want to do anything
  534. [20/07/2012 10:08:00] zzz: all he did was push work to other coders
  535. [20/07/2012 10:08:17] zzz: umm at the same time
  536. [20/07/2012 10:08:26] zzz: they knew that regi and I had a falling out
  537. [20/07/2012 10:08:30] Ryan: REally, he claimed to completely code the site to me.
  538. [20/07/2012 10:08:34] zzz: so instinctively they sided with reginald
  539. [20/07/2012 10:08:37] zzz: lol
  540. [20/07/2012 10:08:45] zzz: a few weeks/ month ago
  541. [20/07/2012 10:08:48] zzz: solomid got hacked
  542. [20/07/2012 10:08:52] zzz: a hacker left a note
  543. [20/07/2012 10:08:59] zzz: umm you guys should fix this and this
  544. [20/07/2012 10:09:12] zzz: the "coder" left a file on solomid backend
  545. [20/07/2012 10:09:19] zzz: that anyone can access to
  546. [20/07/2012 10:09:24] zzz: regi go so upset
  547. [20/07/2012 10:09:28] zzz: he wanted to fire the idiot
  548. [20/07/2012 10:09:28] zzz: how did it
  549. [20/07/2012 10:09:36] zzz: everyone knew it was messiah
  550. [20/07/2012 10:09:49] zzz: but he blamed it on the indian guy who manages the server
  551. [20/07/2012 10:10:05] Ryan: ...naturally.
  552. [20/07/2012 10:10:16] zzz: but yeah, in one of hte meeting
  553. [20/07/2012 10:10:26] zzz: we were going to let pyronic go
  554. [20/07/2012 10:10:35] zzz: but then i decided to step down
  555. [20/07/2012 10:10:41] zzz: so pyronic got a lucky break
  556. [20/07/2012 10:11:03] Ryan: not how you phrased it in your message earlier today
  557. [20/07/2012 10:11:18] zzz: well// umm
  558. [20/07/2012 10:11:22] zzz: was not my decision
  559. [20/07/2012 10:11:32] zzz: but if we made a decision as a company
  560. [20/07/2012 10:11:32] zzz: isn't it we
  561. [20/07/2012 10:11:42] Ryan: But I mean
  562. [20/07/2012 10:11:42] zzz: it was mostly messiah/regi's decision
  563. [20/07/2012 10:11:53] Ryan: You made it sound like you specifically argued to kep pyronic
  564. [20/07/2012 10:11:59] zzz: no
  565. [20/07/2012 10:12:04] zzz: wth did i do that
  566. [20/07/2012 10:12:06] zzz: i dont know the guy
  567. [20/07/2012 10:12:09] Ryan: in the message earlier it came across that way.
  568. [20/07/2012 10:12:14] zzz: uhhh
  569. [20/07/2012 10:12:18] Ryan: from memory
  570. [20/07/2012 10:12:20] zzz: i said pyronic should send me flowers
  571. [20/07/2012 10:12:22] zzz: bc i left
  572. [20/07/2012 10:12:31] Ryan: Eh, w/e
  573. [20/07/2012 10:12:31] zzz: her got a lucky break from all the fiasco
  574. [20/07/2012 10:12:42] Ryan: It doesn't really matter and I may be remembering wrong.
  575. [20/07/2012 10:12:51 | Edited 10:12:55] Ryan: so dw
  576. [20/07/2012 10:12:57] zzz: The worse is Messiah:  The one putting oil into fire. The manipulative $#$$%.. Pyronic should send me flowers, bc before I stepped down Messiah/Regi wanted to fire him for not doing any work. (Haha, you can believe Messiah's nice words Pyro.. until the day he back stabs you."
  577. [20/07/2012 10:13:21] Ryan: lol, you saved it :P
  578. [20/07/2012 10:13:38] zzz: i knew messih would delete my post
  579. [20/07/2012 10:13:40] Ryan: and yeah, still makes it sound like you convinced them not to fire pyronic.
  580. [20/07/2012 10:13:44] zzz: nope
  581. [20/07/2012 10:13:50 | Edited 10:13:53] Ryan: intentional or not. Comes across that way.
  582. [20/07/2012 10:13:56] zzz: lol
  583. [20/07/2012 10:13:56] zzz: really
  584. [20/07/2012 10:14:06] zzz: well.when someonewas going to get fired
  585. [20/07/2012 10:14:10] zzz: but omething big
  586. [20/07/2012 10:14:14] zzz: like organizational changes
  587. [20/07/2012 10:14:20] zzz: the person who was going to get fired
  588. [20/07/2012 10:14:21] zzz: did not
  589. [20/07/2012 10:14:27] zzz: i never argued for pyronic
  590. [20/07/2012 10:14:30] zzz: never will
  591. [20/07/2012 10:14:32] zzz: i dont know the guy
  592. [20/07/2012 10:14:43] zzz: i am not some kind of savior
  593. [20/07/2012 10:14:45] Ryan: Yes, I've figured that out. Just could have woreded your post better.
  594. [20/07/2012 10:14:52] Ryan: But like I said, it reallyyyy doesn't matter
  595. [20/07/2012 10:14:53] zzz: never said i was a nice guy
  596. [20/07/2012 10:15:04] Ryan: Was just trying to work stuff out.
  597. [20/07/2012 10:15:23] zzz: haha
  598. [20/07/2012 10:15:28] zzz: if i argued on pyronic's behalf
  599. [20/07/2012 10:15:31] zzz: he would have gotten canned
  600. [20/07/2012 10:15:38] zzz: bc.. the reginald mode right now
  601. [20/07/2012 10:15:46] zzz: is to go against whatever i said/say
  602. [20/07/2012 10:15:55] zzz: reginald wants to prove to me
  603. [20/07/2012 10:16:01] zzz: umm
  604. [20/07/2012 10:16:06] Ryan: Quick, tell him not to give me a paid posiiton.
  605. [20/07/2012 10:16:18] zzz: you have never seen a release from reginald
  606. [20/07/2012 10:16:22] zzz: about the jonas situation right?
  607. [20/07/2012 10:16:28] Ryan: Right.
  608. [20/07/2012 10:16:35] zzz: umm if i wrong reginald
  609. [20/07/2012 10:16:42] zzz: do you really think he would not speak up
  610. [20/07/2012 10:16:45] zzz: regi knows he fucked me over
  611. [20/07/2012 10:16:48] zzz: lol
  612. [20/07/2012 10:16:51] zzz: even my mom told me
  613. [20/07/2012 10:16:53] zzz: you know whatever you are doing
  614. [20/07/2012 10:17:00] zzz: they are gonna fuck you over
  615. [20/07/2012 10:17:01] zzz: hha
  616. [20/07/2012 10:17:06] zzz: but i came in to help
  617. [20/07/2012 10:17:09] zzz: regi offere me 10%
  618. [20/07/2012 10:17:11] zzz: i said now
  619. [20/07/2012 10:17:11] zzz: no
  620. [20/07/2012 10:17:18] zzz: i worked 60-80hrs
  621. [20/07/2012 10:17:23] zzz: unpaidto help him out
  622. [20/07/2012 10:17:25] zzz: in the beginning
  623. [20/07/2012 10:17:26] Ryan: why would you turn down money?
  624. [20/07/2012 10:17:31] Ryan: I understand not having money
  625. [20/07/2012 10:17:35] Ryan: as your main objective
  626. [20/07/2012 10:17:39] zzz: i dont believe that when i help my own brother
  627. [20/07/2012 10:17:42] zzz: it is for the mone
  628. [20/07/2012 10:17:43] zzz: y
  629. [20/07/2012 10:17:51] Ryan: Doesn't have to be for the money.
  630. [20/07/2012 10:17:52] zzz: yes i did get paid later on
  631. [20/07/2012 10:18:00] Ryan: Fair enough.
  632. [20/07/2012 10:18:05] zzz: THAT WHY I GOT SO FUCKEN PISSED
  633. [20/07/2012 10:18:10] zzz: when regi got drunk
  634. [20/07/2012 10:18:12] zzz: and told some girl
  635. [20/07/2012 10:18:15] zzz: i was taking advantage of him
  636. [20/07/2012 10:18:27] zzz: why the hell would i fly to new york
  637. [20/07/2012 10:18:30] zzz: sleep in the basement
  638. [20/07/2012 10:18:32] zzz: with no mattress
  639. [20/07/2012 10:18:39] zzz: wake up to cook breakfast
  640. [20/07/2012 10:18:39] zzz: then to work
  641. [20/07/2012 10:18:42] zzz: come back to make lunch
  642. [20/07/2012 10:18:44] zzz: then to work
  643. [20/07/2012 10:18:48] zzz: then make dinnner
  644. [20/07/2012 10:18:51] zzz: then work
  645. [20/07/2012 10:19:04] zzz: then at night .. to clean up
  646. [20/07/2012 10:19:09] zzz: you really think it was for the money?
  647. [20/07/2012 10:19:11] zzz: if it was for the money
  648. [20/07/2012 10:19:16] zzz: i'd be sucking up to reginald
  649. [20/07/2012 10:19:21] zzz: and going yes sir
  650. [20/07/2012 10:19:38] Ryan: butthat's what I'm saying, it doesn't have to be for the money. But you need to compensate all the time you invested.
  651. [20/07/2012 10:19:49] Ryan: Well, whatever. Doesn't matter now, what's past is past.
  652. [20/07/2012 10:19:53] zzz: yeah
  653. [20/07/2012 10:19:57] zzz: i really dont care
  654. [20/07/2012 10:20:06] zzz: when you do things out of lvoe
  655. [20/07/2012 10:20:10] zzz: for your brother
  656. [20/07/2012 10:20:13] zzz: and he fuckes you over
  657. [20/07/2012 10:20:13] Ryan: but no offence
  658. [20/07/2012 10:20:21] Ryan: You never did sound like a living family.
  659. [20/07/2012 10:20:23] zzz: the pain is worse
  660. [20/07/2012 10:20:25] Ryan: *loving
  661. [20/07/2012 10:20:27] zzz: lol
  662. [20/07/2012 10:20:30] zzz: of course not
  663. [20/07/2012 10:20:36] zzz: we came from a family
  664. [20/07/2012 10:20:42] zzz: where it was breed from violence
  665. [20/07/2012 10:20:52] zzz: we did not have our mum and pops hold our hands
  666. [20/07/2012 10:21:00] zzz: there were 7 of us
  667. [20/07/2012 10:21:02] zzz: 1 mother
  668. [20/07/2012 10:21:05] zzz: who had to work
  669. [20/07/2012 10:21:07] zzz: go to school
  670. [20/07/2012 10:21:11] zzz: and a drunkard father
  671. [20/07/2012 10:21:15] zzz: who gamble and abusesus
  672. [20/07/2012 10:21:24] zzz: so as humans were very brutal
  673. [20/07/2012 10:21:31] zzz: i never said we are angels
  674. [20/07/2012 10:21:35] zzz: or are nice people
  675. [20/07/2012 10:21:42] Ryan: I never said you were.
  676. [20/07/2012 10:21:55] Ryan: I just don't get why you'd do something "out of love"
  677. [20/07/2012 10:22:04] Ryan: seems uncharacteristic
  678. [20/07/2012 10:22:05] zzz: lol
  679. [20/07/2012 10:22:09] zzz: then youre a fool
  680. [20/07/2012 10:22:17] Ryan: Thanks ;)
  681. [20/07/2012 10:22:26] zzz: just because you came from a beaten up family
  682. [20/07/2012 10:22:28] zzz: does not mean
  683. [20/07/2012 10:22:30] zzz: you cant love
  684. [20/07/2012 10:22:38] Ryan: But the fact he went on to use you
  685. [20/07/2012 10:22:42] Ryan: and apparently andy used him
  686. [20/07/2012 10:22:55] zzz: who went on to use me?
  687. [20/07/2012 10:22:59] Ryan: regi
  688. [20/07/2012 10:23:02] Ryan: well, not use.
  689. [20/07/2012 10:23:03] zzz: andy= regi
  690. [20/07/2012 10:23:04] Ryan: Speciifcally.
  691. [20/07/2012 10:23:06] Ryan: ersadgfsfdh
  692. [20/07/2012 10:23:10] Ryan: 10am, tired.
  693. [20/07/2012 10:23:20] zzz: umm ilike i've said
  694. [20/07/2012 10:23:26] zzz: if i never appeared
  695. [20/07/2012 10:23:30] zzz: in NY
  696. [20/07/2012 10:23:35] zzz: i'd still be in the back ground
  697. [20/07/2012 10:23:51] zzz: jealousy and the feeling that he has to prove to me that he is superior
  698. [20/07/2012 10:23:56] zzz: was his downfall
  699. [20/07/2012 10:24:01] zzz: i never said my brother does not love me
  700. [20/07/2012 10:24:07] zzz: i never said that thre is no love between u
  701. [20/07/2012 10:24:09] zzz: us
  702. [20/07/2012 10:24:11] zzz: tbh
  703. [20/07/2012 10:24:12] zzz: if i called regi
  704. [20/07/2012 10:24:14] zzz: and say
  705. [20/07/2012 10:24:25] zzz: I need 50k and i need your help
  706. [20/07/2012 10:24:30] zzz: he would not say no
  707. [20/07/2012 10:24:47] zzz: you really dont understand the complexity of silbling rivarly
  708. [20/07/2012 10:25:01] zzz: the clear line was .. regi go jealous,, i stepped down
  709. [20/07/2012 10:25:02] Ryan: Well, let's be honest
  710. [20/07/2012 10:25:07] Ryan: Your case is a bit...unique.
  711. [20/07/2012 10:25:14] zzz: messiah and others spread rumors
  712. [20/07/2012 10:25:20] zzz: umm
  713. [20/07/2012 10:25:26] zzz: sorry we dont come from a home like yourself
  714. [20/07/2012 10:25:30] *** zzz sent My Life Part Deuce.pdf ***
  715. [20/07/2012 10:25:54] Ryan: I don't mean the whole growing up thing
  716. [20/07/2012 10:26:01] Ryan: although in itself is interesting
  717. [20/07/2012 10:26:04] Ryan: I meant the whoe fact
  718. [20/07/2012 10:26:15] Ryan: that one of you owns a multi-million dollar company
  719. [20/07/2012 10:26:21] zzz: umm
  720. [20/07/2012 10:26:29] zzz: not d
  721. [20/07/2012 10:26:32] zzz: not interested
  722. [20/07/2012 10:26:39] zzz: i've turned down 1 million before
  723. [20/07/2012 10:26:42] zzz: thats
  724. [20/07/2012 10:26:48] zzz: is what you dont get
  725. [20/07/2012 10:26:56] Ryan: I know you're specifically not intersted in money.
  726. [20/07/2012 10:27:03] zzz: i turned down 1 million from a different company
  727. [20/07/2012 10:27:05] zzz: and not regi's
  728. [20/07/2012 10:27:18] Ryan: But money and the reputation that goes with it still changes the sibling dynamic.
  729. [20/07/2012 10:27:24] zzz: yes
  730. [20/07/2012 10:27:33] zzz: money made regi think he's righ
  731. [20/07/2012 10:27:34] zzz: t
  732. [20/07/2012 10:27:36] zzz: regi is pissed that his money
  733. [20/07/2012 10:27:39] zzz: does not affect me
  734. [20/07/2012 10:27:51] zzz: i am not all about the popularity
  735. [20/07/2012 10:27:55] zzz: that's why i stepped away
  736. [20/07/2012 10:27:59] zzz: from the gaming house
  737. [20/07/2012 10:28:07] zzz: i am not a lamb
  738. [20/07/2012 10:28:16] zzz: OMG "a moderator" position
  739. [20/07/2012 10:28:27] zzz: some people take pride in that
  740. [20/07/2012 10:28:44] zzz: youre not the first
  741. [20/07/2012 10:28:46] zzz: to question me
  742. [20/07/2012 10:28:54] zzz: why the fuck did i step away
  743. [20/07/2012 10:28:54] zzz: from it all
  744. [20/07/2012 10:29:06] Ryan: I just want an accurate story.
  745. [20/07/2012 10:29:07] Ryan: Nothing more.
  746. [20/07/2012 10:29:10] zzz: lol
  747. [20/07/2012 10:29:17] Ryan: I want to know what I might be working for.
  748. [20/07/2012 10:29:23] zzz: at the same time, you have your pre-judgement
  749. [20/07/2012 10:29:27] Ryan: And you were certainly the best person to talk to.
  750. [20/07/2012 10:29:37] Ryan: You think so?
  751. [20/07/2012 10:29:44] zzz: and it goes against what you expect as "your" logic
  752. [20/07/2012 10:30:00] Ryan: I came into this conversation pretty damn neutral.
  753. [20/07/2012 10:30:03] zzz: umm well.. tbh you're a "moderator"
  754. [20/07/2012 10:30:08] zzz: so you should be speial :0
  755. [20/07/2012 10:30:10] zzz: ;)
  756. [20/07/2012 10:30:12] zzz: and feel privileged
  757. [20/07/2012 10:30:13] Ryan: Yes, I like the forums.
  758. [20/07/2012 10:30:14] zzz: haah
  759. [20/07/2012 10:30:23] Ryan: I like keeping them in a decent state.
  760. [20/07/2012 10:30:35] Ryan: I spend (too much) time there
  761. [20/07/2012 10:30:40] Ryan: so it only makes sense.
  762. [20/07/2012 10:30:50] zzz: well. do what you love
  763. [20/07/2012 10:30:55] zzz: that's how you will get far in life
  764. [20/07/2012 10:30:56] Ryan: I am in no way aligned with messiah
  765. [20/07/2012 10:31:04 | Edited 10:31:06] Ryan: or anybody else.
  766. [20/07/2012 10:31:09] zzz: i am not really inovled
  767. [20/07/2012 10:31:16] Ryan: I know you're not.
  768. [20/07/2012 10:31:24] Ryan: But I just resent the fact that you think my mind was made up
  769. [20/07/2012 10:31:30] Ryan: coming into this conversation
  770. [20/07/2012 10:31:35] Ryan: If my mind was made up
  771. [20/07/2012 10:31:37] Ryan: I would not waste my
  772. [20/07/2012 10:31:40] Ryan: and your time
  773. [20/07/2012 10:31:41] zzz: well
  774. [20/07/2012 10:31:42] Ryan: with this shit.
  775. [20/07/2012 10:31:48] zzz: your mind was not fully made up
  776. [20/07/2012 10:31:56] zzz: but no matterhow you perceive things
  777. [20/07/2012 10:32:00] Ryan: The only pre-conception I had
  778. [20/07/2012 10:32:03] zzz: you already have a biased
  779. [20/07/2012 10:32:07] Ryan: was that both sides
  780. [20/07/2012 10:32:09] Ryan: fucked up
  781. [20/07/2012 10:32:12] Ryan: somewhere along the line
  782. [20/07/2012 10:32:18] Ryan: Which is still probably true,
  783. [20/07/2012 10:32:18] zzz: like you could not accept the fact that i did things  out of love for my brother
  784. [20/07/2012 10:32:59] Ryan: That was not to do with pre-conception, only based on what you'd told me about your family in this conversation.
  785. [20/07/2012 10:33:02] zzz: although we did come from a really horrible family environment does not mean there is no love
  786. [20/07/2012 10:33:09] zzz: ....
  787. [20/07/2012 10:33:14] Ryan: Yeah, you're
  788. [20/07/2012 10:33:17] Ryan: missing my point
  789. [20/07/2012 10:33:19] Ryan: on that topic
  790. [20/07/2012 10:33:37] Ryan: I meant the fact that you seem to spend ost the time arguing
  791. [20/07/2012 10:33:38] zzz: dude .. read over what you wrote bro
  792. [20/07/2012 10:33:43] Ryan: or screwing each other over
  793. [20/07/2012 10:33:49] Ryan: Not your home that you came from.
  794. [20/07/2012 10:34:09] zzz: how do we spend time screwing each other over?
  795. [20/07/2012 10:34:14] zzz: yes
  796. [20/07/2012 10:34:16] zzz: i agree
  797. [20/07/2012 10:34:20] zzz: with some of the instance
  798. [20/07/2012 10:34:24] zzz: but were all humans
  799. [20/07/2012 10:34:29] zzz: we have our greed
  800. [20/07/2012 10:34:32] zzz: and we make mistake
  801. [20/07/2012 10:34:36] zzz: but everyone does that
  802. [20/07/2012 10:34:39] zzz: even to family
  803. [20/07/2012 10:34:51] Ryan: Well, within half a year. You've gone from volunteering to help regi to denouncing him as family.
  804. [20/07/2012 10:34:59] Ryan: It just...seems wrong.
  805. [20/07/2012 10:35:03] zzz: lol
  806. [20/07/2012 10:35:11] zzz: you just dont get it
  807. [20/07/2012 10:35:21] zzz: question
  808. [20/07/2012 10:35:25] zzz: if someone makes mistake A
  809. [20/07/2012 10:35:36] zzz: and your brother makes a mistake A
  810. [20/07/2012 10:35:38] zzz: what do you do
  811. [20/07/2012 10:35:43] zzz: are you more lenient on him?
  812. [20/07/2012 10:35:47] Ryan: Of course I am.
  813. [20/07/2012 10:35:51] zzz: umm
  814. [20/07/2012 10:35:55] zzz: that's where we differ
  815. [20/07/2012 10:36:03] zzz: i am harsher on my siblings
  816. [20/07/2012 10:36:09] zzz: bc i care
  817. [20/07/2012 10:36:09] zzz: enough
  818. [20/07/2012 10:36:18] zzz: to try to rectify their actions
  819. [20/07/2012 10:36:28] zzz: tough love
  820. [20/07/2012 10:36:36] zzz: there's more than one perception ni life
  821. [20/07/2012 10:36:36] zzz: in life
  822. [20/07/2012 10:36:41] zzz: i am not saying you are wrong
  823. [20/07/2012 10:36:48] zzz: but at the same time
  824. [20/07/2012 10:36:48] Ryan: Honstly, my answer was hypothetical.
  825. [20/07/2012 10:36:53] Ryan: My oldest brother is 14.
  826. [20/07/2012 10:37:00] Ryan: it's hard fpor him to screw me overtbh
  827. [20/07/2012 10:37:05] zzz: well
  828. [20/07/2012 10:37:10] zzz: if your younger brother gets in a fight
  829. [20/07/2012 10:37:13] zzz: and he is wrong
  830. [20/07/2012 10:37:16] zzz: do you defend him
  831. [20/07/2012 10:37:19] zzz: even though he is wrong?
  832. [20/07/2012 10:37:23] Ryan: No.
  833. [20/07/2012 10:37:32] zzz: good
  834. [20/07/2012 10:37:39] zzz: we come up with the same conclusion
  835. [20/07/2012 10:37:40] Ryan: Only if he is being attacked.
  836. [20/07/2012 10:37:44] zzz: yes
  837. [20/07/2012 10:37:48] zzz: if he's attacked
  838. [20/07/2012 10:37:51] zzz: you can protect him
  839. [20/07/2012 10:37:58] zzz: so what regi did to me was out of stupidity
  840. [20/07/2012 10:38:04] zzz: i am not going to pet him and say
  841. [20/07/2012 10:38:06] zzz: you did well
  842. [20/07/2012 10:38:09] zzz: how he acts
  843. [20/07/2012 10:38:13] zzz: as a leader
  844. [20/07/2012 10:38:19] zzz: with thousand of people following him
  845. [20/07/2012 10:38:27] zzz: is not a good role model
  846. [20/07/2012 10:38:32] zzz: he's changed
  847. [20/07/2012 10:38:36] zzz: he's become so much better
  848. [20/07/2012 10:38:42] zzz: i dont expect him to be like me
  849. [20/07/2012 10:38:47] zzz: i have many flaws as well
  850. [20/07/2012 10:39:09] zzz: now .. most professional who excel to the highest level
  851. [20/07/2012 10:39:18] zzz: are they humble or are they arrogant brats
  852. [20/07/2012 10:39:36] zzz: the highest sense of a grand master is humility
  853. [20/07/2012 10:40:01] zzz: i dont mind losing regi as a brother if he learns humility
  854. [20/07/2012 10:40:24] Ryan: You really think you're going to help him by losing him as s brother though?
  855. [20/07/2012 10:40:26] Ryan: *as a
  856. [20/07/2012 10:40:33] Ryan: I understand tough love.
  857. [20/07/2012 10:40:33] zzz: So if destroying our brotherhood or whatever is left to wake you up and make you realize that you need to be a graceful / humble / simple human being.
  858.  
  859. I will push the button in a heart beat. "You are no longer my fucken brother bitch!!"
  860. [20/07/2012 10:40:39] zzz: umm
  861. [20/07/2012 10:40:44] zzz: sometimes people do not walk up
  862. [20/07/2012 10:40:46] zzz: wake up
  863. [20/07/2012 10:40:48] Ryan: but, is he even going to read that.
  864. [20/07/2012 10:40:53] zzz: unless they lose something
  865. [20/07/2012 10:41:00] zzz: umm
  866. [20/07/2012 10:41:02] zzz: he alreay did
  867. [20/07/2012 10:41:06] zzz: a month ago
  868. [20/07/2012 10:41:13] zzz: he's changed
  869. [20/07/2012 10:41:15] zzz: i admit that
  870. [20/07/2012 10:41:19] zzz: right now
  871. [20/07/2012 10:41:23] zzz: all the people he has around him
  872. [20/07/2012 10:41:26] zzz: are "yes sir"
  873. [20/07/2012 10:41:29] zzz: to him
  874. [20/07/2012 10:41:38] zzz: they allow him to act however he wants to
  875. [20/07/2012 10:41:45] zzz: he will act like a donkey
  876. [20/07/2012 10:41:48] zzz: and they will still bow
  877. [20/07/2012 10:41:51] zzz: however
  878. [20/07/2012 10:41:52] zzz: in his mind
  879. [20/07/2012 10:41:57] zzz: there will be this one person
  880. [20/07/2012 10:42:00] zzz: who he knows
  881. [20/07/2012 10:42:02] Ryan: even his team mates?
  882. [20/07/2012 10:42:11] zzz: that his actions will not be allowed
  883. [20/07/2012 10:42:13] zzz: dude
  884. [20/07/2012 10:42:20] zzz: where the hell have you been?
  885. [20/07/2012 10:42:23] Ryan: Well
  886. [20/07/2012 10:42:24] zzz: he's there boss
  887. [20/07/2012 10:42:25] zzz: he made them
  888. [20/07/2012 10:42:35] zzz: how are you going to disobey your boss
  889. [20/07/2012 10:42:47] zzz: that's the reason why tsm failed so miserably in the first place
  890. [20/07/2012 10:42:54] zzz: all the yelling
  891. [20/07/2012 10:42:56] zzz: the arguing
  892. [20/07/2012 10:43:01] zzz: reginald picking on rainman
  893. [20/07/2012 10:43:03] zzz: and xpecial
  894. [20/07/2012 10:43:09] zzz: get all the recordings
  895. [20/07/2012 10:43:14] zzz: of the arguments before i came
  896. [20/07/2012 10:43:31] Ryan: yeah, like I said, I've heard a fair bit.
  897. [20/07/2012 10:43:40] zzz: ummm ..
  898. [20/07/2012 10:43:47] zzz: when i came to NY
  899. [20/07/2012 10:43:50] zzz: i did not allow that
  900. [20/07/2012 10:43:55] zzz: what happened?
  901. [20/07/2012 10:44:01] zzz: TSM starts winnning
  902. [20/07/2012 10:44:18] zzz: umm everything that regi talks about now
  903. [20/07/2012 10:44:21] zzz: about team work
  904. [20/07/2012 10:44:22] zzz: about practice
  905. [20/07/2012 10:44:30] zzz: about practicing when you are at your best condition
  906. [20/07/2012 10:44:34] zzz: umm where did it came from?
  907. [20/07/2012 10:44:38] zzz: ...
  908. [20/07/2012 10:44:47] zzz: anyhow, i am going fishing in 2 hours
  909. [20/07/2012 10:44:52] zzz: gonna call it a night
  910. [20/07/2012 10:45:00] Ryan: Can I ask
  911. [20/07/2012 10:45:03] Ryan: one question first
  912. [20/07/2012 10:45:14] Ryan: about the whole TRM leaving?
  913. [20/07/2012 10:45:17] Ryan: or would that take
  914. [20/07/2012 10:45:17] zzz: ...
  915. [20/07/2012 10:45:18] Ryan: too long
  916. [20/07/2012 10:45:20] Ryan: to explain
  917. [20/07/2012 10:45:22] zzz: lets leave it at that
  918. [20/07/2012 10:45:25] Ryan: Lol
  919. [20/07/2012 10:45:29] zzz: you got your answers
  920. [20/07/2012 10:45:30] Ryan: Fair enough.
  921. [20/07/2012 10:45:36] Ryan: Yeah, thanks.
  922. [20/07/2012 10:45:45] zzz: at the end of the day
  923. [20/07/2012 10:45:47] Ryan: I really mean it.
  924. [20/07/2012 10:45:50] zzz: i does not really matter what you think
  925. [20/07/2012 10:45:52] zzz: haha
  926. [20/07/2012 10:45:55] zzz: bc you're just one guy
  927. [20/07/2012 10:46:07] zzz: and of course there's a gazillion tsm fans
  928. [20/07/2012 10:46:16] zzz: who are fed lies about me through messiah / kleo
  929. [20/07/2012 10:46:23] Ryan: I'm not going to try and change everybodies perception of TSM
  930. [20/07/2012 10:46:27] Ryan: I just want to make sure
  931. [20/07/2012 10:46:30] zzz: of course you're not
  932. [20/07/2012 10:46:31] Ryan: I'm not wasting my time
  933. [20/07/2012 10:46:36] zzz: i know
  934. [20/07/2012 10:46:43] zzz: you watned to talk to me bc of your self interest
  935. [20/07/2012 10:46:46] zzz: has nothing to help me
  936. [20/07/2012 10:46:48] zzz: even if you did
  937. [20/07/2012 10:46:52] zzz: it would not matter
  938. [20/07/2012 10:46:56] Ryan: I do honestly
  939. [20/07/2012 10:46:58] zzz: i really wanted people on my side
  940. [20/07/2012 10:47:01] zzz: i'd put up a youtube
  941. [20/07/2012 10:47:02] zzz: lol
  942. [20/07/2012 10:47:02] Ryan: think you should release one video though.
  943. [20/07/2012 10:47:07] zzz: nah
  944. [20/07/2012 10:47:10] zzz: bc you asked
  945. [20/07/2012 10:47:15] zzz: that's why i took the time
  946. [20/07/2012 10:47:19] zzz: i already know
  947. [20/07/2012 10:47:19] zzz: hehe
  948. [20/07/2012 10:47:23] zzz: you're powerless
  949. [20/07/2012 10:47:23] zzz: hehe
  950. [20/07/2012 10:47:28] Ryan: Thanks :P
  951. [20/07/2012 10:47:32] zzz: sorry bro
  952. [20/07/2012 10:47:38] zzz: reality is reality is
  953. [20/07/2012 10:47:40] Ryan: Well, it's true.
  954. [20/07/2012 10:47:45] zzz: dont try to go against the tide
  955. [20/07/2012 10:47:48] zzz: just play with it
  956. [20/07/2012 10:47:52] zzz: my dumb mistake in life
  957. [20/07/2012 10:47:56] zzz: is that i choose not to play games
  958. [20/07/2012 10:48:03] zzz: i just left to enjoy my life in my own world
  959. [20/07/2012 10:48:08] zzz: left= like
  960. [20/07/2012 10:48:23] Ryan: Nothing wrong with that
  961. [20/07/2012 10:48:24] Ryan: tbh
  962. [20/07/2012 10:48:38] zzz: haha.. read my book ;)
  963. [20/07/2012 10:48:48] zzz: maybe you'll learn something and understand my perception in life
  964. [20/07/2012 10:48:51] zzz: i am an odd case
  965. [20/07/2012 10:48:54] zzz: i do understand that
  966. [20/07/2012 10:49:08] zzz: that's why i am sadden and sickened by what "our" world has become
  967. [20/07/2012 10:49:45] Ryan: Well, I think I share some of your views to an extent at least.
  968. [20/07/2012 10:50:02] Ryan: People should spend more time trying to lvie life and enjoy themselves than they do.
  969. [20/07/2012 10:50:19] Ryan: But yeah, I'll let you go.
  970. [20/07/2012 10:50:30] Ryan: Will you be on again or are you deleting me now?
  971. [20/07/2012 10:50:33] zzz: aight.. anyhow.. this is not my skype any longer..
  972. [20/07/2012 10:50:34] zzz: haha
  973. [20/07/2012 10:50:35] zzz: :)
  974. [20/07/2012 10:50:36] zzz: yup
  975. [20/07/2012 10:50:38 | Edited 10:50:41] Ryan: Ah.
  976. [20/07/2012 10:50:39] zzz: liek i said
  977. [20/07/2012 10:50:45] zzz: i really dont want to be involve
  978. [20/07/2012 10:50:48] Ryan: Well I didn't want
  979. [20/07/2012 10:50:50] zzz: i did everything for my bro
  980. [20/07/2012 10:50:52] Ryan: to talk about anything TSM related
  981. [20/07/2012 10:51:00] Ryan: after this convo
  982. [20/07/2012 10:51:02] zzz: :)
  983. [20/07/2012 10:51:09] Ryan: You do just seem like a good guy to talk to though
  984. [20/07/2012 10:51:17] Ryan: But if you're dropping this skype, fair enough.
  985. [20/07/2012 10:51:20] zzz: haha.. sorweee.. i am a hermit
  986. [20/07/2012 10:51:25] Ryan: I understand.
  987. [20/07/2012 10:51:25] zzz: email me.. if you ever
  988. [20/07/2012 10:51:29] zzz: need help or advise
  989. [20/07/2012 10:51:37] Ryan: Your email?
  990. [20/07/2012 10:51:38] zzz: jonasdinh@gmail.com
  991. [20/07/2012 10:51:45] Ryan: Alright, I'll keep that in mind.
  992. [20/07/2012 10:51:49] Ryan: Thanks for the time.
  993. [20/07/2012 10:51:51] zzz: haha
  994. [20/07/2012 10:51:52] zzz: np
  995. [20/07/2012 10:51:54] Ryan: Good luck and all the best.
  996. [20/07/2012 10:52:02] zzz: umm one thing i'd like to say
  997. [20/07/2012 10:52:17] zzz: even though everything that happened between my siblings and I
  998. [20/07/2012 10:52:23] zzz: if regi/andy
  999. [20/07/2012 10:52:26] zzz: even dan
  1000. [20/07/2012 10:52:30] zzz: ever needs my help
  1001. [20/07/2012 10:52:40] zzz: there's no way in hell, even if i have to give up my life
  1002. [20/07/2012 10:52:46] zzz: i would still be there to help them out
  1003. [20/07/2012 10:53:07] zzz: I do believe that slowly but surely everything I taught andy will come to light
  1004. [20/07/2012 10:53:17] zzz: he just needs time to grow
  1005. [20/07/2012 10:53:35] zzz: i need to be the pick in his heart to remind him that he's no god and just a human being
  1006. [20/07/2012 10:53:38] zzz: if i dont do that
  1007. [20/07/2012 10:53:47] zzz: him waking up will be further and longer away
  1008. [20/07/2012 10:54:00] zzz: as for messiah
  1009. [20/07/2012 10:54:06] zzz: he has his own opionion
  1010. [20/07/2012 10:54:21] zzz: i really dont care to destroy the guy or bring him down further
  1011. [20/07/2012 10:54:27] zzz: the statement you showed me
  1012. [20/07/2012 10:54:31] Ryan: Shame.
  1013. [20/07/2012 10:54:34] zzz: proves that i've totally fucked with his mind
  1014. [20/07/2012 10:54:35] zzz: haha
  1015. [20/07/2012 10:54:41] zzz: for him to write and say that
  1016. [20/07/2012 10:54:49] Ryan: Messiah/kleo seem intolerable.
  1017. [20/07/2012 10:54:56] zzz: because the image he gives is" Messiah = calm collected guy"
  1018. [20/07/2012 10:55:02] zzz: but i got to him very good
  1019. [20/07/2012 10:55:04] zzz: hahaa
  1020. [20/07/2012 10:55:26] Ryan: I still can't believe he tried to DDOS you T_T
  1021. [20/07/2012 10:55:39] zzz: tbh,, i cannot prove it
  1022. [20/07/2012 10:55:41] zzz: but ever sincethat post
  1023. [20/07/2012 10:55:47] zzz: my other line got ddosed
  1024. [20/07/2012 10:55:56] zzz: so he's innocent until proven guilty
  1025. [20/07/2012 10:56:02] zzz: if i knew he did it
  1026. [20/07/2012 10:56:04] zzz: i'd fly to his house
  1027. [20/07/2012 10:56:08] zzz: and beat the crap out of him
  1028. [20/07/2012 10:56:10] zzz: since i dont know
  1029. [20/07/2012 10:56:12] zzz: i will leave that at that
  1030. [20/07/2012 10:56:14] Ryan: well, who else would do it?
  1031. [20/07/2012 10:56:16 | Edited 10:56:19] Ryan: Eh.
  1032. [20/07/2012 10:56:21] zzz: haha
  1033. [20/07/2012 10:56:23] zzz: it's cool
  1034. [20/07/2012 10:56:26] zzz: waste of a flight anyways
  1035. [20/07/2012 10:56:31] Ryan: That's true.
  1036. [20/07/2012 10:56:34] zzz: umm dinhs look weak
  1037. [20/07/2012 10:56:34] zzz: but trust me
  1038. [20/07/2012 10:56:47] zzz: were very violent and brutal when push comes to shove
  1039. [20/07/2012 10:56:57] zzz: i can bet you that i can beat messiah up in less than 30 seconds
  1040. [20/07/2012 10:56:58] zzz: haha
  1041. [20/07/2012 10:57:11] zzz: but yeah.. whatever,, i dont ever want to get in a fight for the rest of my life
  1042. [20/07/2012 10:57:13] Ryan: I dunno, I think I could take regi in a fight :P
  1043. [20/07/2012 10:57:20] zzz: umm
  1044. [20/07/2012 10:57:21] zzz: tbh
  1045. [20/07/2012 10:57:22] zzz: nope
  1046. [20/07/2012 10:57:26] zzz: unless
  1047. [20/07/2012 10:57:31] zzz: you've gone through years of training
  1048. [20/07/2012 10:57:34] Ryan: I did a lot of bocing.
  1049. [20/07/2012 10:57:37] Ryan: *boxing
  1050. [20/07/2012 10:57:41] zzz: i took out a 3rd degree
  1051. [20/07/2012 10:57:42] zzz: in 2 minutes
  1052. [20/07/2012 10:57:59] zzz: regi can prolly do the same
  1053. [20/07/2012 10:58:03] Ryan: He has to be out of shape though.
  1054. [20/07/2012 10:58:06] zzz: umm
  1055. [20/07/2012 10:58:08] zzz: tbh
  1056. [20/07/2012 10:58:15] zzz: regi can probably beat me 1v1
  1057. [20/07/2012 10:58:18] Ryan: T_T
  1058. [20/07/2012 10:58:20] zzz: but in a fight
  1059. [20/07/2012 10:58:22] zzz: there's nothing as fair
  1060. [20/07/2012 10:58:26] zzz: the one who is standing wins
  1061. [20/07/2012 10:58:39] zzz: i'll have to play really dirty if i fight regi
  1062. [20/07/2012 10:58:40] zzz: haha
  1063. [20/07/2012 10:58:43] Ryan: Well, was just a random hypothetical thought anyway.
  1064. [20/07/2012 10:58:49] Ryan: Would be interesting though.
  1065. [20/07/2012 10:58:54] zzz: but yeah,, peace and no violence is the best option
  1066. [20/07/2012 10:59:07] zzz: yeah, my goal is to never fight again
  1067. [20/07/2012 10:59:25] zzz: so yes we can talk about it
  1068. [20/07/2012 10:59:42] zzz: anyhow man.. you pretty bright yourself.. I do hope you take the effrot to read my book
  1069. [20/07/2012 10:59:45] zzz: you wont believe it
  1070. [20/07/2012 10:59:49] zzz: but I have seen angels
  1071. [20/07/2012 10:59:54] zzz: and have miracles
  1072. [20/07/2012 10:59:59] zzz: happen before my eyes
  1073. [20/07/2012 11:00:09] Ryan: I will at least give it a try definitely.
  1074. [20/07/2012 11:00:13] zzz: thanks
  1075. [20/07/2012 11:00:16] zzz: aight man
  1076. [20/07/2012 11:00:16] zzz: peace
  1077. [20/07/2012 11:00:19] Ryan: Least I could do.
  1078. [20/07/2012 11:00:34] Ryan: Bye, enjoy your fishing/life.
  1079. [20/07/2012 11:00:40] zzz: umm :(
  1080. [20/07/2012 11:00:44] zzz: short last
  1081. [20/07/2012 11:00:52] zzz: business meeting at end of month
  1082. [20/07/2012 11:01:00] zzz: life will be 60-80 hrs of work again
  1083. [20/07/2012 11:01:02] zzz: haha
  1084. [20/07/2012 11:01:05] Ryan: ...well
  1085. [20/07/2012 11:01:06] Ryan: Fuck that.
  1086. [20/07/2012 11:01:21] Ryan: should have just got the money before and spent the rest of your life enjoying yourself
  1087. [20/07/2012 11:01:22] Ryan: :P
  1088. [20/07/2012 11:01:34] zzz: nah..
  1089. [20/07/2012 11:01:45] zzz: i made a promise to my millionairefriend
  1090. [20/07/2012 11:01:50] zzz: i will help him with his business
  1091. [20/07/2012 11:01:52] zzz: if it was not for that promise
  1092. [20/07/2012 11:01:56] zzz: i'd be fishing
  1093. [20/07/2012 11:01:57] zzz: haha
  1094. [20/07/2012 11:02:09] Ryan: ...surely a millionaire friend can afford to buy help T_T
  1095. [20/07/2012 11:02:17] Ryan: You're pretty selfless
  1096. [20/07/2012 11:02:25] zzz: umm there's help
  1097. [20/07/2012 11:02:31] zzz: but then there's HELP
  1098. [20/07/2012 11:02:31] Ryan: for a self proclaimed "not nice guy" you're rather nice :P
  1099. [20/07/2012 11:02:38] zzz: well.. i hate the title of nice guy
  1100. [20/07/2012 11:02:44] zzz: i'd rather be a devil
  1101. [20/07/2012 11:02:48] zzz: bc devils can do good
  1102. [20/07/2012 11:02:50] zzz: but angels cant
  1103. [20/07/2012 11:03:10] Ryan: Somewhat twisted logic, but fair enough :P
  1104. [20/07/2012 11:03:30 | Edited 11:03:33] Ryan: But you really should get going to sleep, or you're going to regret it when you wake up T_T
  1105. [20/07/2012 11:03:39] zzz: umm gone 72 hrs with no sleep before
  1106. [20/07/2012 11:03:41] zzz: haha
  1107. [20/07/2012 11:03:42] zzz: but yeah
  1108. [20/07/2012 11:03:43] zzz: peace
  1109. [20/07/2012 11:03:46] Ryan: Adios.