[23:48:28] * smercjd (Mibbit@C9ADECCE.1CAE000C.1E6C5CA.IP) has joined #free
[23:49:38] <smercjd> Araqiel said he wanted to talk...
[23:49:44] <smercjd> I'm not very good at IRC
[23:49:53] <smercjd> so let me know what I'm supposed to do
[23:49:59] <Peppie> eh
[23:50:05] <Peppie> you can doubleclick his name
[23:50:11] <Peppie> btw, dont quit the game man
[23:50:18] <smercjd> I just can't deal with it
[23:50:20] <smercjd> I'm not tough
[23:50:24] <Peppie> you dont have to
[23:50:26] <smercjd> Araqiel said I need to be tough
[23:50:27] <smercjd> and I'm just not
[23:50:37] <smercjd> I can't believe you guys said all those things about me
[23:50:37] <Peppie> listen
[23:50:40] <smercjd> when all I tried to do was...
[23:50:41] <smercjd> ok
[23:50:44] <Peppie> (we didnt say anything about you)
[23:50:52] <Peppie> we got out of that war and forgot all about you
[23:51:03] <Peppie> then palem razes us EoA and we feel threatened
[23:51:09] <Peppie> then posts about how hes going to hunt us
[23:51:16] <Peppie> that elicits reaction
[23:51:27] <Peppie> if you CF us, palem cant do shit, and theres no conflict nor drama
[23:51:45] <Peppie> FREE has no beef with Nightmare, or you
[23:52:03] <Peppie> shit is in the past, palem is the only one hanging onto it for god knows why
[23:52:19] <smercjd> then why would araiel say he will raze my whole kd
[23:52:24] <smercjd> i didn't even know what was happening in forums
[23:52:25] <Peppie> he didnt say that
[23:52:29] <smercjd> i usually just try to focus in war
[23:52:32] <Araq> oh I lost interest in talking after you posted this shit on the forums
[23:52:37] <Peppie> araq, stfu
[23:52:40] <Araq> I did say that, but I followed up offering a CF
[23:52:53] <Peppie> you said youd raze palem, no?
[23:52:59] <smercjd>  Palem is cause you problems      [url]http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...4#post15319104[/url]      We are 25 and significantly larger than you. I know you are 4:15.      Do you really want Palem to be the reason you lose every war this age because I will set orders to RK your provs every time?      I don't want this to happen, I like you guys, but I will not accept
[23:53:11] <Peppie> oh
[23:53:21] <Peppie> well hes playing it hard
[23:53:25] <Araq> I did say that, but I followed up offering a CF
[23:53:26] <Araq> I did say that, but I followed up offering a CF
[23:53:26] <Araq> I did say that, but I followed up offering a CF
[23:53:35] <Araq> which is why I lose interest in talking
[23:53:38] <Peppie> basically what we want is not to have worries about palem continuing his irritating childish crusade
[23:53:44] <Araq> because you decided to leave that part out on the forums
[23:53:48] <Peppie> otherwise completely not interested in Nightmare
[23:53:48] <Araq> anyway I stfu
[23:55:24] <smercjd> well if it wasn't your intention  at least i can take comfort in that
[23:55:32] <smercjd> but if that's the sort of talk that's required to play up there
[23:55:36] <smercjd> I don't want to be a part of that
[23:55:37] <Araq> oh and smercjd offering to send you a CF is not a small thing, it reveals our location toi palem who will likely target share
[23:55:45] <smercjd> what I was most excited about this game isn't even the game itself
[23:55:45] <Araq> so I did care about your KD more than the Palem situation
[23:55:47] <smercjd> it's the community
[23:55:51] <smercjd> the growing of utopia
[23:56:06] <smercjd> how does CF matter if I'm quitting
[23:56:06] <smercjd> ?
[23:56:10] <Peppie> what part of uto is growing :p
[23:56:20] <smercjd> i don't care about stuff like locations...
[23:56:22] <Peppie> well, we would beseech you not to quit
[23:56:25] <smercjd> I just want to play the game
[23:56:28] <smercjd> enjoy the people I play it with
[23:56:35] <Araq> if you believed my threats real, and you cared about your KD
[23:56:45] <smercjd> of course I care about my KD
[23:56:45] <Araq> then a CF would have been the best option for THEM
[23:56:47] <Araq> despote you quitting
[23:56:49] <smercjd> but I'm leaving so what does it matter?
[23:56:50] <Araq> so yes
[23:56:54] <smercjd> they will leae to
[23:56:56] <smercjd> leave*
[23:57:03] <smercjd> I'm the only thing holding them there
[23:57:15] <smercjd> believe or not
[23:57:18] <smercjd> most of us are new
[23:57:19] <smercjd> players
[23:57:28] <smercjd> and most have already said that they wouldn't keep playing w/o me
[23:57:38] <smercjd> i tried very very hard
[23:57:39] <smercjd> to build the kd
[23:57:43] <Peppie> look
[23:57:46] <smercjd> and now
[23:57:47] <smercjd> ...
[23:57:48] <Peppie> if you have  a good thing going
[23:57:50] <Peppie> keep it going
[23:57:51] <smercjd> there's just no point
[23:57:55] <smercjd> how is it good?
[23:57:59] <smercjd> the point is the community
[23:58:00] <Peppie> how is it bad?
[23:58:05] <smercjd> if the community wants to push us out
[23:58:09] <smercjd> then why should we play?
[23:58:14] <smercjd> all we want is to be a part of
[23:58:17] <Peppie> i have spotted zero anti nightmare posts
[23:58:22] <smercjd> -_-
[23:58:25] <smercjd> that's bs and you know it
[23:58:39] <Peppie> well spot me some
[23:58:40] <smercjd> the entirety of Nightmare v Free was anti-nightmare posts.
[23:58:45] <Peppie> nonsense
[23:59:01] <smercjd> Try the golden rule a little. Show respect, grace, sportmanship. If you must be a blowhard about beating another KD, then do it in the confines of your own IRC channel/forum/chat. Allow your opponent to lose with their dignity in tact. Dont be "that asshole KD" that spawns grudges and bad reputation due to some poisonous trashtalking.
[23:59:18] <Peppie> you say im too sensitive for taking offense to meenis trashtalking, but you seem to have a worse case of sensitivity :p
[23:59:31] <smercjd> and i said that
[23:59:40] <smercjd> i said I'm also sensitive
[23:59:47] <BlackSheep> hi
[23:59:47] <Peppie> i stand by that statement
[23:59:52] <Peppie> if you were in our shoes
[23:59:58] <Peppie> and you read those initial posts
[00:00:07] <Peppie> wouldnt you feel attacked?
[00:00:30] <smercjd> no
[00:00:33] <smercjd> and i explained why
[00:00:37] <Peppie> then we're different in this regard
[00:01:06] <Peppie> anyway, nowhere did i do false accusations, lies or deceit, ad hominem attacks or insults
[00:01:41] <Peppie> i didnt like meeni/osaze posts
[00:01:45] <Peppie> and i posted about it
[00:01:48] <Peppie> theres nothing wrong with that
[00:02:04] <smercjd> you named our whole KD
[00:02:05] <smercjd> not them
[00:02:11] <smercjd> so I took them personally I
[00:02:30] <Peppie> youre doing the same thing
[00:02:35] <Peppie> take Araq
[00:02:40] <Peppie> hes an abrasive asshole
[00:02:48] <Peppie> almost none of his posts on the forum are nice
[00:02:52] <Peppie> but he doesnt speak for FREE
[00:03:00] <Peppie> anyway, i clarified in a later post: "I think it takes giant hairy balls, after Meeni/Osaze's posturing in the first five pages of this thread, to turn it around against us, saying that WE are taunting and acting up - based on a single, relatively mild post."
[00:03:16] <smercjd> ok
[00:03:30] <smercjd> maybe it's just araqiel
[00:03:36] <smercjd> cause i dont' know the other guys
[00:03:39] <smercjd> if they are in your kd
[00:03:45] <Peppie> some are
[00:03:53] <Peppie> not always clear (also not to me) who
[00:04:16] <Peppie> anyway
[00:04:27] <Peppie> you can browse this thread for an even greater amount of FREE bashing ->
[00:04:28] <Peppie> [url]http://forums.utopia-game.com/showthread.php?629239-Tag-up/page6[/url]
[00:04:33] <Peppie> if it makes you feel any better
[00:04:36] <smercjd> no no
[00:04:40] <smercjd> I don't want to read any bashing
[00:04:42] <smercjd> that's the whole point
[00:04:46] <smercjd> I don't want you guys based
[00:04:48] <smercjd> bashed*
[00:04:49] <smercjd> or us
[00:04:52] <smercjd> I don't want anyone bashed
[00:04:59] <smercjd> that's what's making me leave
[00:05:08] <smercjd> why play a game to just get bashed
[00:05:18] <Peppie> theres more to it
[00:05:42] <smercjd> well maybe if you had at least aknowledged any of my posts?
[00:05:49] <smercjd> like all of my attempts
[00:05:53] <smercjd> to salvage anything
[00:05:55] <smercjd> were ignored
[00:06:12] <smercjd> anyway
[00:06:14] <Peppie> its a personal failing of mine that i cant be bothered to kiss and make up
[00:06:23] <Peppie> i say what i think and then forget about the whole thing
[00:06:36] <smercjd> i really appreciate this attempt to pacify
[00:06:54] <smercjd> and i definitely hold you with a different regard