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  1. --->This Passtebin is a compliation of investigative work by Giga and Togepi regarding cheating allegations that state that Zwink is cheating with CocaCola and Radiofire90 in Round 310. The first set of games have notations made by Giga where the last half is an indepth review of games that Arcbell posted in thread (https://epicmafia.com/topic/70642) by Togepi<---
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  3. [GIGA13]
  4. Game #1: https://epicmafia.com/game/4142256 (GAI) - (Radiofire (Cop) and Zwink (Nilla) who carries his team by surviving 2 lynches as last mafia. No evidence of cheating here.
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  6. Game #2: https://epicmafia.com/game/4163642 (STBS) - CocaCola (Templar) mislynches on Day 2 to lose the game, Zwink wins as Nilla. It appears to be a clean win. Cocacola listens to Zwink without much resistance on Day 1. CocaCola also ends up lynching his former townread on Day 2 (Marshmilo, villager) and only lightly foses Zwink and doesn't say much more than that about it. This doesn't look suspicious however.
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  8. Game #3: https://epicmafia.com/game/4142291 (STBS) - Zwink (Nilla) is lynched Day 1. WolfBlitzer (Templar) mishammers twice on Days 2 and 3 to give Zwink's partner (TheGreatLeon) the win. Nothing really suspicious here other than RadioFire90 (Templar) trying to lynch Zeebar (Villager) over Zwink on Day 1, which isn't really suspicious in itself at all.
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  10. Two full days (10 completed games, 1 incomplete game) pass without Zwink playing a game with either CocaCola or RadioFire90.
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  12. Game #4: https://epicmafia.com/game/4148978 (STBS) - Zwink (Villager), RadioFire90 (Villager) and Cocacola (Templar) win this game relatively quickly. Mafia are lynched both days and Zwink leads both lynches as villager. Cocacolca follows Zwink both times fast, and doesn't ask anything about it.
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  14. Game #5: https://epicmafia.com/game/4149004 (STBS) - Once again, Zwink (Nilla) leads the lynch Day 1 on wdvfr (Villager), but however is hammered on Day 2 by CocaCola (Templar). Cocacola then hammers yushchenko (Nilla) over Radiofire90 (Villager) on Day 3 in the 3 way lylo. Nothing suspicious here.
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  16. Game #6: https://epicmafia.com/game/4149035 (STBS) - CocaCola (Mafia) is lynched on Day 1, RadioFire90 (Templar) doesn't like the lynch on CocaCola but it happens anyway. He says on Day 1 that he thinks Zwink (Nilla) could be mafia too, but hammers two other towns on Days 2 and 3 to give Zwink and Cocacola the win.
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  18. Game #7: https://epicmafia.com/game/4149088 (STBS) - Zwink (Villager), CocaCola (Templar) and RadioFire90 (Villager) all quickvote again on Day 1, with Zwink leading as usual.
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  20. https://epicmafia.com/game/4160108 (STBS) - This game is with the user Pepsi (Templar) (https://epicmafia.com/user/76911#/; alt of CocaCola) and Zwink (Villager). There is no evidence of cheating here; town lynches villager Day 1 and then Pepsi hammers a Mafia Day 2, his Templar partner Zaanyion hammers the other mafia on Day 3 in 3 way lylo over Pepsi.
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  22. Game #7: https://epicmafia.com/game/4149088 (STBS) - Zwink (Villager), CocaCola (Templar) and RadioFire90 (Villager) all quickvote again on Day 1, with Zwink leading as usual. Orly (Villager) is lynched Day 1, and after Zwink dies Night 2, the game is won by lynching Mafia Day 2 (entire town lynches Wunderkind, Nilla) and Day 3 (wdvfr hammers ilovecheesecake, Nilla). Not much suspicious activity here.
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  24. I would like to take a moment to say that so far, it appears as though CocaCola sheeps Zwink almost always, RadioFire90 could be to a lesser degree and that there is meta abuse imminent. They rarely ever vote each other, let alone fos each other, and it's enough to be very noticable.
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  26. Game 8: https://epicmafia.com/game/4149119 - CocaCola (Mafia) says "Sheep Zwink if he's voting someone other than mafia". Honestly this doesn't seem like a bad strategy considering what he's been doing in every other game. I don't think it's anything other than a strategy. Wunderkind (Nilla) is lynched on Day 2. Radiofire90 (Villager) and Zwink (Villager) are left with CocaCola in 3 way lylo on Day 3, and RadioFire90 hammers CocaCola. The reasoning in this 3 way lylo is pretty bad but that happens in a lot of games with other players too so it's not a big deal really in my opinion.
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  28. Game 9: https://epicmafia.com/game/4152879 - Zwink is Nilla, RadioFire90 is Villager. This appears to be a clean scum win.
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  30. Game 10: https://epicmafia.com/game/4152897 - Zwink is Villager, RadioFire90 is also Villager. Zwink quickvotes again on Day 1, and RadioFire90 sheeps it quickly. The vote does however, change and someone else is lynched by the end of the day. This doesn't seem to be suspicious at all either, other than Zwink wanting to turbolynch RadioFire90 on Day 2 for something he did Day 1 involving the mafia that was lynched on Day 1 (neonTHUNDER), but RadioFire90 becomes his townread not too far later. I think it's just having meta on RadioFire that assisted Zwink with his 180 here. Froce (Nilla) also doesn't really try too hard as the final mafia on Day 2.
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  32. Game 11: https://epicmafia.com/game/4152917 - Zwink is Villager, RadioFire90 is Nilla. neonTHUNDER is lynched on Day 1, Zwink is killed Night 2, and RadioFire90 wins with his partner (Froce, Nilla) after a double-Templar cc on Day 2 and a mishammer by VlueB (Villager). Seems clean to me.
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  34. Game 12:
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  36. https://epicmafia.com/game/4160108 (STBS) - This game is with the user Pepsi (Templar) (https://epicmafia.com/user/76911#/; alt of CocaCola) and Zwink (Villager). There is no evidence of cheating here; town lynches villager Day 1 and then Pepsi hammers a Mafia Day 2, his Templar partner Zaanyion hammers the other mafia on Day 3 in 3 way lylo over Pepsi.
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  39. [TOGEPI]
  40. (Game #1) https://epicmafia.com/game/4163642 - Rolled mafia together. Irrelevant.
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  42. (Game #2) https://epicmafia.com/game/4163464 - CocaCola is templer. Zwink is nilla.
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  44. D1: First game that I have come across where CocaCola actually tries and is pressuring Zwink to out reads on players in the game.
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  46. D2: "I know who I'm lynching, but I'm going to reread."
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  48. "Zwink is either having a rough game or is scum."
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  50. "I think Zwink is town a little bit more, than angry."
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  52. (Game #3) https://epicmafia.com/game/4163566 - CocaCola is templar, Zwink is blue. Another game where Zwink and CocaCola do not FoS and are easily able to figure out scum from PoE.
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  54. (Game #4) https://epicmafia.com/game/4163414 -
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  56. N1: "Don't FoS Zwink unless I do. Sheep Zwink if she votes instantly."
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  58. D1: Zwink instantly votes melanielynn25, CocaCola votes seconds after. Only switches his vote off of melanielynn25 to vote wdvfr for FoSing Zwink.
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  60. D3: Lost the game because Zwink was forced to make decisions herself without backup in 3-way.
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  62. (Game #5) https://epicmafia.com/game/4160521: Both are town. CocaCola actually votes Zwink and participates in getting her lynched D1.
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  64. (Game #6) https://epicmafia.com/game/4160404 - N1: "Don't FoS Zwink right off the bat by the way."
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  66. (Game #7) https://epicmafia.com/game/4160441 - N1: "Be careful with Zwink. It's almost time for her to flip maf."
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  68. (Game #8) https://epicmafia.com/game/4160600 - Another game where CocaCola is playing against his win condition in an attempt to help Zwink. CocaCola attempts to push onto suitedSailboats his partner when it isn't a situation where mafia needs to push on each other. (13:50) Votes him and does not unvote. Ends up being a CocaCola win do to the templars MLing.
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  70. (Game #9) https://epicmafia.com/game/4157335 - Both rolled town blue: D1 - CocaCola: "Me and Zwink are both town" said as the third line during the day. Nedliv notes that in the last game when Zwink was mafia CocoaCola tried to pull a lynch off of Zwink but Nedliv had to force it. Zwink calls CocaCola obvious town with no information to truly go off of.
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  72. (Game #10) https://epicmafia.com/game/4157470 - Pregame: Zwink "CocaCola will carry me I swear!" Zwink FoS's maf d1 and CocaCola blindly sheeps her. "Zwink is obvi town" at 07:04
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  74. (Game #12) https://epicmafia.com/game/4157218 -
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  76. N1: "I want you to insta random vote. Go on histori."
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  78. (Game #12) https://epicmafia.com/game/4157366 - They roll templar together, so there is nothing of value here.
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  80. (Game #13) https://epicmafia.com/game/4157512 -
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  82. Pregame: CocaCola says that he is going to join her next game on his secret alt leading me to believe even further that there's heavy meta abuse involved.
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  84. D1: CocaCola Refuses to lynch Zwink because "he doesn't have a read on her yet", but has been so bold as to call her town in previous games without hardly any reads. Blindly sheeping and following Zwink again. Someone calls Zwink out for having terrible reads and not to throw for her, and I am inclined to agree.
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  86. D2: Zwink starts pushing on CocaCola and instead of having any real fight against it says "Jesus. Fine lynch me. Make decision tomorrow." (21:43-22:03)
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  88. D3: CocaCola and Zwink are forced to FoS each other in a 3 way at the end of the day that ends in a loss for Zwink. The loss for Zwink happened because the fate of the game was not in her or CocaCola's hands. At least he admits to sucking Zwink's dick the entire game.
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  90. (Game #14) https://epicmafia.com/game/4157394 - CocaCola is mafia. Zwink is blue. Mafia win.
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  92. Pregame: "Yo I'm sorry I used meta."
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  94. CocaCola's game suffers severely. Off-topic most the game outside of sheeping Zwink's first vote. "CocaCola is probably maf." (09:46)
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  96. (Game #15) https://epicmafia.com/game/4157271 - CocaCola is mafia, Zwink is blue.
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  98. Templars are on point this game.
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  100. (Game #16) https://epicmafia.com/game/4157150 - CocaCola is blue, Zwink is templar.
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  102. Graveyard: (Zwink)
  103. (07:15) "Brian and Potted."
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  105. In game: (CocaCola)
  106. (07:36) "My FoS is Brian btw."
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  108. (Game #17) https://epicmafia.com/game/4157302 - Zwink, mafia. CocaCola, blue.
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  110. D1: "Zwink has been maf 9/10 times. She has to be maf this game." "I want Zwink alive. I can read her." "I'm not lynching Zwink right now. Unvote her." CocaCola still wants to lynch Markus over Zwink, and town ends up lynching around him to lynch her as Mafia.
  111. https://epicmafia.com/game/4149004 - Pregame meta talk: EXS AND OH OH OH'S THEY HAUNT ME
  112. 00:33 Zwink
  113. i always push rxn d1
  114. 00:34 wdvfr
  115. if zwink dies n1. im confirmed mafia
  116. 00:35 Zwink
  117. if they fail
  118. 00:37 Zwink
  119. i ml them
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  122. (Game #18) https://epicmafia.com/game/4149035 - Zwink and CocoaCola roll scum. Radiofire90 is Templar. Radiofire mishammers in 3-way for Zwink win.
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  124. (Game #19) https://epicmafia.com/game/4149088 - N2 - "I think Zwink is town tbh"
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  126. (Game #20) https://epicmafia.com/game/4148978 - Devante, CocaCola, Zwink, Radiofire90.
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  128. N2 - "Zwink is town. Radiofire is prob town."
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  130. (Game #21) https://epicmafia.com/game/4149119 - CocaCola is mafia, Zwink is blue.
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  132. N1 - CocaCola reinforces the sheeping meta with his teammate.
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  134. D1 - Nothing of Value here.
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  136. D2 - Zwink soft FoSes CocaCola as mafia at (06:40)
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  138. D3 - 3-way between Zwink, CocaCola, and Radiofire90. CocaCola barely tries in the 3-way against Zwink. Ends up giving up (11:10)
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