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  1. [07:39:52] Noccy > We we're talking about API. Do you have a link to the one you need?
  2. [07:40:10] HappyStrongFat > www.goonauth.com
  3. [07:40:14] HappyStrongFat > this site uses the old keys.
  4. [07:40:30] HappyStrongFat > f186e7fae622164
  5. [07:40:37] HappyStrongFat > here's your sponsorship code
  6. [07:40:49] HappyStrongFat > hit "apply"
  7. [07:41:32] Noccy > Done.
  8. [07:42:47] Noccy > So why do you guys have the same site mirrors on http://www.goonfleet.net
  9. [07:42:54] Noccy > Same sight but not a redirect.
  10. [07:43:50] HappyStrongFat > different front-end websites front-end all linked to the same auth backbone.
  11. [07:44:14] HappyStrongFat > redundancy*
  12. [07:44:15] HappyStrongFat > lol
  13. [07:45:44] Noccy > Probably a good idea.
  14. [07:45:58] Noccy > Jr. Sysadmin here so just a little curious
  15. [07:46:37] HappyStrongFat > I don't know much about it, I just know they direct to the same databases and tools.
  16. [07:47:25] Noccy > No they don't. My application ID doesn't work on the other site.
  17. [07:48:54] HappyStrongFat > The sites are just used to check your wallet transactions and corp activity
  18. [07:49:06] HappyStrongFat > It's to spy-check.
  19. [07:50:08] HappyStrongFat > Unfortunately, due to your mostly red corp history, I don't think you have much of a chance getting in to the swarm.
  20. [07:50:21] Noccy > I know what the APIs for. I also know the mirrored sites.
  21. [07:50:34] Noccy > TEST does the same thing.
  22. [07:50:42] Noccy > I flew with MM against NC with you guys...
  23. [07:51:35] HappyStrongFat > It's mostly the corp hopping that's a concern, along with your recent stint in a brick squad corp.
  24. [07:51:52] Noccy > if by stint you mean 1 month of inactivity. Check eve-kill
  25. [07:52:18] Noccy > 8 different corps in 5 years.
  26. [07:52:27] HappyStrongFat > I'm not trying to accuse you, I'm just looking at what I'm being given by your api.
  27. [07:52:37] Noccy > And I'm explaining what You're being given.
  28. [07:52:52] HappyStrongFat > our HR directors are extremely strict.
  29. [07:53:03] HappyStrongFat > as far as corp history.
  30. [07:54:09] Noccy > Yeah I'm sure they are... Wouldn't let an old ally in...
  31. [07:54:52] HappyStrongFat > I can try to talk to someone if you'd like, to get a second opinion.
  32. [07:55:04] HappyStrongFat > if you are really interested in joining.
  33. [07:55:21] Noccy > Yeah, I would like to fly with you guys. That's why I've been holding out.
  34. [07:55:48] HappyStrongFat > let me get someone on the line.
  35. [07:55:52] Noccy > Ive spoken to 4 of you now. You're the first one that didn't want a deposit.
  36. [07:59:09] HappyStrongFat > I know that there have been stories told of GS recruiters scamming people with the security deposit, but those guys are really going against corp policy by doing that. We have an entire forum section dedicated to posting logs of them being kicked
  37. [07:59:17] HappyStrongFat > and usually begging to be let back in.
  38. [07:59:46] Noccy > I'm just surprised I found a decent recruiter.
  39. [08:01:10] HappyStrongFat > Most of us in the swarm are decent guys.
  40. [08:01:32] Noccy > I'm sure. It's usually just a handful but it's my luck to run into them first.
  41. [08:02:06] Noccy > Stuck through it hoping to get a bid.
  42. [08:03:02] HappyStrongFat > Before we continue, I do want you to know that the deposit is in fact mandatory for acceptance. I don't know how much these previous recruiters have talked to, but it's standard to ask for 500m. It's an insurance policy for us.
  43. [08:03:32] HappyStrongFat > We hold it for a week, and give it back once you prove that you're not a spy.
  44. [08:03:38] Noccy > Really? Cause spys don't have ISK?
  45. [08:03:59] HappyStrongFat > It's just standard policy.
  46. [08:04:28] Noccy > Yeah, well you guys really just decline a bunch of good pilots because of your shitty reputation for scamming.
  47. [08:04:40] HappyStrongFat > It's not a scam.
  48. [08:04:43] Noccy > I'm supposed to give you ISK so you trust me; how am I supposed to trust you?
  49. [08:05:00] Noccy > You have an awful reputation across the universe.
  50. [08:05:26] Noccy > My reputation, on the other hand, is a good pilot, high efficiency, and 2 major null alliances.
  51. [08:05:37] HappyStrongFat > Like I've told you before, that reputation is earned by a few people who choose to take advantage of our system for their own gain.
  52. [08:05:53] HappyStrongFat > If you want, I can have you give it to an hr director personally.
  53. [08:06:06] Noccy > Sure. Bring him in.
  54. [08:06:29] Noccy > I'd like screenshots of the forum where you ban scammers and they beg to get back in though.
  55. [08:06:35] HappyStrongFat > Give me a few minutes.
  56. [08:06:44] HappyStrongFat > we can't provide those.
  57. [08:06:48] HappyStrongFat > it's against corp policy.
  58. [08:07:06] Noccy > So I trust you blind? Ha.
  59. [08:07:14] Noccy > And I only have 200m anyway. You can see that.
  60. [08:08:09] HappyStrongFat > You have assets.
  61. [08:08:19] Noccy > You're not worth liquidating assets.
  62. [08:08:45] Noccy > Especially if you fail to provide any proof that you won't take it anyway.
  63. [08:08:47] HappyStrongFat > You seem to be getting a bit hostile.
  64. [08:08:55] Noccy > I have your word and you have my ISK?
  65. [08:09:10] HappyStrongFat > I can't give you proof, other than the thousands of pilots who have been recruited by this exact method.
  66. [08:09:26] Noccy > How about the ones that were denied and never got the deposit back?
  67. [08:09:33] Noccy > That post every day on the forum.
  68. [08:10:01] HappyStrongFat > Like I've said previously. Bad apples.
  69. [08:10:52] Noccy > Lots of bad apples. Looks like a bad tree. What it comes down to is that I won't give you a deposit. You've spent an hour with me for nothing. You won't make any ISK. If, however, you want a good pilot with a good reputation, efficiency, and combat.
  70. [08:10:54] Noccy > We can talk.
  71. [08:11:36] HappyStrongFat > So, you don't want me to bring in the director?
  72. [08:11:42] Noccy > I'd love the director.
  73. [08:11:53] HappyStrongFat > you're declining the deposit, though.
  74. [08:11:59] HappyStrongFat > I'm just making sure.
  75. [08:12:13] Noccy > I'll speak with the director.
  76. [08:12:17] HappyStrongFat > There's no point in bringing them in if you won't follow due process.
  77. [08:12:31] Noccy > If he'll sign an out of game electronic contract then I'll put down 500m.
  78. [08:12:53] Noccy > If not, you're just a group of ISK thieves.
  79. [08:13:36] Noccy > In fact, why don't we use a 3rd party?
  80. [08:13:47] Noccy > If you deem me to be a spy, take the ISK and give me the boot.
  81. [08:13:47] HappyStrongFat > Okay, how about the mittani?
  82. [08:13:56] Noccy > Nope, I've got Chribba on speed dial.
  83. [08:14:45] HappyStrongFat > He does post his phone number in his bio.
  84. [08:15:16] Noccy > 3rd Post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=20988
  85. [08:15:26] Noccy > 5 months ago.
  86. [08:17:56] HappyStrongFat > Our Glorious CEO would never pull such a sham.
  87. [08:18:12] Noccy > Glorious Leader?
  88. [08:18:25] Noccy > Jong-Il is dead.
  89. [08:18:34] HappyStrongFat > You're right.
  90. [08:18:44] HappyStrongFat > But Mittani will live forever in the hearts of the goons
  91. [08:19:17] Noccy > And in the vengeful minds of those he's crossed.
  92. [08:19:26] Noccy > So, where's our director?
  93. [08:19:34] HappyStrongFat > She's not coming.
  94. [08:20:04] HappyStrongFat > I've been relaying logs and she basically said you're not getting in.
  95. [08:20:07] Noccy > Well, like I said: I'll give my deposit to a reputed 3rd party.
  96. [08:20:37] HappyStrongFat > That's just not how this system works.
  97. [08:20:43] HappyStrongFat > I hope you find a decent alliance.
  98. [08:20:44] HappyStrongFat > ;/
  99. [08:20:50] Noccy > Cause you like to have my ISK in your wallet :)
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