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  1. Dec 08 02:59:08 * AMC-CEO (~AMC-CEO@50-83-181-217.client.mchsi.com) has joined
  2. Dec 08 02:59:17 <zefyr0s> ..wut
  3. Dec 08 02:59:18 <chairforce1> i just dont like when people create these scenarios in their heads
  4. Dec 08 02:59:23 <chairforce1> with no information to back it up
  5. Dec 08 02:59:34 <chairforce1> its fine to have your opinions
  6. Dec 08 03:00:04 <chairforce1> but there r no opinions that hold more truth than others unless there are facts to back it up
  7. Dec 08 03:00:27 <chairforce1> hey ken
  8. Dec 08 03:00:37 <AMC-CEO> Yes
  9. Dec 08 03:02:04 <chairforce1> im sure it has been an interesting day/evening for u
  10. Dec 08 03:02:32 <SuperMario9000> KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNN
  11. Dec 08 03:02:35 <AMC-CEO> I guess a little.
  12. Dec 08 03:03:17 <SuperMario9000> I want easic chips for christmas!
  13. Dec 08 03:03:21 <chairforce1> lol
  14. Dec 08 03:03:21 <SuperMario9000> yum yum
  15. Dec 08 03:04:32 <chairforce1> how has ur weekend been?
  16. Dec 08 03:04:34 <chairforce1> ken
  17. Dec 08 03:04:44 * VinceSamios (~VinceSami@host81-154-80-140.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined
  18. Dec 08 03:05:17 <AMC-CEO> Good, seen a good movie today, Captain.
  19. Dec 08 03:05:23 <zefyr0s> Any timeframe on the share reclamation site?
  20. Dec 08 03:06:09 <AMC-CEO> Going to try and get that done soon, should have been working on it tonight.
  21. Dec 08 03:06:17 <zefyr0s> shit happens
  22. Dec 08 03:06:57 <zefyr0s> what movie?
  23. Dec 08 03:07:08 <chairforce1> maybe captain philips
  24. Dec 08 03:07:13 <AMC-CEO> It will be done by the end of the coming week for sure.
  25. Dec 08 03:07:19 <zefyr0s> ahh
  26. Dec 08 03:07:41 <AMC-CEO> Yes, just said Captain on the board at the movie.
  27. Dec 08 03:08:09 <AMC-CEO> I wife picks the movies most of the time.
  28. Dec 08 03:08:13 * saulimus (~someone@37-219-96-0.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi) has joined
  29. Dec 08 03:08:14 <AMC-CEO> My*
  30. Dec 08 03:08:20 <chairforce1> lol
  31. Dec 08 03:08:26 <chairforce1> it was a pretty good movie
  32. Dec 08 03:08:39 <AMC-CEO> Yes, it was good.
  33. Dec 08 03:09:46 <chairforce1> so what brings u to irc?
  34. Dec 08 03:10:13 <AMC-CEO> Good question
  35. Dec 08 03:10:37 <AMC-CEO> Just wanted to see what everyone was saying.
  36. Dec 08 03:10:41 <chairforce1> auto2nr1 wont respond so i doubt its him lol
  37. Dec 08 03:10:44 <chairforce1> ahh
  38. Dec 08 03:10:45 <chairforce1> well
  39. Dec 08 03:10:50 <[8]> Aka ActiveMining gossip corner.
  40. Dec 08 03:11:16 <zefyr0s> lol
  41. Dec 08 03:11:23 <chairforce1> mostly talking of VE's posts
  42. Dec 08 03:11:31 <chairforce1> and a little mention of the drop in btc
  43. Dec 08 03:12:11 <AMC-CEO> Yes, had a lot of PMs with VE tonight and a few on the thread.
  44. Dec 08 03:12:25 <chairforce1> personally i dont think it is correct for people to draw difinitive conclusions from some posts when they dont wiegh information in other posts equally
  45. Dec 08 03:12:47 <chairforce1> yea i feel people dont have the full story so imaginations r running wild
  46. Dec 08 03:12:51 <AMC-CEO> I let him know who had hold of his balls.
  47. Dec 08 03:12:56 <chairforce1> lol
  48. Dec 08 03:13:16 <[8]> Alpha
  49. Dec 08 03:13:26 <AMC-CEO> I had to pull hard, but soon he got the idea.
  50. Dec 08 03:14:49 <chairforce1> ive been wondering though, can u say how may employees work at VMC?
  51. Dec 08 03:15:02 <chairforce1> i have been interesting in the staffing
  52. Dec 08 03:15:14 <chairforce1> so far i know of you and your nephew
  53. Dec 08 03:15:15 <AMC-CEO> Rightnow 4
  54. Dec 08 03:15:20 <chairforce1> ok
  55. Dec 08 03:16:12 <AMC-CEO> Just look at VE thread, he has the answers.
  56. Dec 08 03:16:28 <zefyr0s> Did you see the post linking to alexa a bit back?
  57. Dec 08 03:16:29 <AMC-CEO> and the pictures.
  58. Dec 08 03:16:46 <AMC-CEO> alexa?
  59. Dec 08 03:16:47 <chairforce1> who is alexa?
  60. Dec 08 03:16:54 <zefyr0s> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/virtualminingcorp.com
  61. Dec 08 03:16:55 <ActiveBot> Title: Virtualminingcorp.com Site Info
  62. Dec 08 03:16:57 <chairforce1> and VEs threads have been deleted
  63. Dec 08 03:17:06 <zefyr0s> big visit bump
  64. Dec 08 03:17:11 <[8]> For the website traffic. Seems to be up quite a bit.
  65. Dec 08 03:18:13 <AMC-CEO> Yes, we have done a lot of work in September and October on organic SEO
  66. Dec 08 03:18:31 <chairforce1> what is SEO im not familiar
  67. Dec 08 03:18:33 <zefyr0s> nice
  68. Dec 08 03:18:40 <zefyr0s> search engine optimization
  69. Dec 08 03:18:43 <chairforce1> ah
  70. Dec 08 03:18:45 <chairforce1> excellent
  71. Dec 08 03:19:33 <AMC-CEO> We have been getting ~2700 vistors with out any Google adwords running.
  72. Dec 08 03:19:46 <AMC-CEO> Now, that is even going up.
  73. Dec 08 03:19:47 * SuperMario9000 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  74. Dec 08 03:20:04 <chairforce1> great to hear
  75. Dec 08 03:20:39 <[8]> I noticed alot of the competitors rank much higher than us using the term "Asic Bitcoin Miner". We doen't actually mention the word "ASIC" very much on the site. Is that term off limits to us for some reason?
  76. Dec 08 03:21:50 <AMC-CEO> No, but I have an SEO guy that looks at all the words and optimizes the site for the words that people search for.
  77. Dec 08 03:22:26 <chairforce1> hmm
  78. Dec 08 03:22:37 <AMC-CEO> He works on tweeking the words and site everyday.
  79. Dec 08 03:22:50 <chairforce1> ive had people in my cubicle and surrounding area talking of bitcoin and all they seem to know is that u can mine it
  80. Dec 08 03:23:05 <chairforce1> i bet people just tryin to get in on BTC dont know about asic
  81. Dec 08 03:23:29 <AMC-CEO> It may not be searched that much.
  82. Dec 08 03:23:44 <chairforce1> i dont think it is
  83. Dec 08 03:24:22 <chairforce1> at leasti n comparison to the term mining
  84. Dec 08 03:24:30 <[8]> Thought i'd bring it up. Our big SEO phrase was "Bitcoin Mining Machine". I thought i'd look into what was bringing traffic to other sites, and it was "Asic." That's why i ask.
  85. Dec 08 03:24:40 <AMC-CEO> How about asic bitcoin mining
  86. Dec 08 03:25:04 <AMC-CEO> That is one of our keywords for adwords.
  87. Dec 08 03:25:41 <chairforce1> im not well versed in SEO but that seems good
  88. Dec 08 03:25:53 <chairforce1> may as well add ASIC as well
  89. Dec 08 03:26:05 <chairforce1> the more the merrier i would think
  90. Dec 08 03:26:12 <zefyr0s> you get a small amount of people looking for mining hosting
  91. Dec 08 03:26:28 <AMC-CEO> Yes, it is quite an art (SEO)
  92. Dec 08 03:26:38 <[8]> ^
  93. Dec 08 03:26:40 <[8]> This
  94. Dec 08 03:27:06 <zefyr0s> Yep, used to just be you throw a shitload of meta tags in a webpage..
  95. Dec 08 03:27:44 <AMC-CEO> Doesn't work that way anymore.
  96. Dec 08 03:29:57 <chairforce1> ken
  97. Dec 08 03:30:01 <AMC-CEO> Yes
  98. Dec 08 03:30:03 <chairforce1> i have so many questions in my head
  99. Dec 08 03:30:06 <chairforce1> im trying to filter
  100. Dec 08 03:30:11 <chairforce1> to things i figure u can answer
  101. Dec 08 03:30:21 <chairforce1> as to not waste time
  102. Dec 08 03:30:38 <AMC-CEO> Ok
  103. Dec 08 03:30:46 <[8]> Everyone has the sames questions lol
  104. Dec 08 03:30:51 <chairforce1> lol
  105. Dec 08 03:30:51 <chairforce1> well
  106. Dec 08 03:30:58 <chairforce1> how did u fist come into bitcoin?
  107. Dec 08 03:30:59 <[8]> We lose sleep every night for.
  108. Dec 08 03:31:22 <AMC-CEO> Yes, we are on the 3rd page with ASIC Bitcoin Miner
  109. Dec 08 03:32:20 <AMC-CEO> I was thinking about creating an anonymous virtual currency in 2008
  110. Dec 08 03:32:39 <chairforce1> lol
  111. Dec 08 03:32:42 <AMC-CEO> Working on that I found Bitcoin in 2009
  112. Dec 08 03:32:43 <chairforce1> r u satoshi?
  113. Dec 08 03:32:54 <[8]> He is. We win.
  114. Dec 08 03:32:55 <chairforce1> u r a lucky man
  115. Dec 08 03:33:00 <AMC-CEO> I wish I was that smart.
  116. Dec 08 03:33:05 <chairforce1> i wish i found bitcoin in 2009
  117. Dec 08 03:33:09 <zefyr0s> You read cryptonomicon?
  118. Dec 08 03:33:11 <chairforce1> did u invest then?
  119. Dec 08 03:33:19 <AMC-CEO> Yes, and I wish I keep mining too.
  120. Dec 08 03:33:24 * saulimus has quit (Quit: saulimus)
  121. Dec 08 03:33:56 <zefyr0s> I mined 1.6 btc when it was 5 dollars
  122. Dec 08 03:33:59 <zefyr0s> and then stopped =/
  123. Dec 08 03:34:06 <chairforce1> god
  124. Dec 08 03:34:17 <AMC-CEO> I did some mining, but Gerald kept asking me if I had a bitcoin yet. Then I rebooted my computer and did not restart the miner. Bad mistake.
  125. Dec 08 03:34:26 <chairforce1> yes
  126. Dec 08 03:34:27 <zefyr0s> yep same
  127. Dec 08 03:35:00 <zefyr0s> i missed out on the 30 bump got dejected and no more
  128. Dec 08 03:35:05 <AMC-CEO> Then got on to other projects until early 2012 when that Kim dot com deal happened.
  129. Dec 08 03:35:19 <chairforce1> what was kim dot com?
  130. Dec 08 03:35:27 <zefyr0s> megaupload.com
  131. Dec 08 03:35:56 <AMC-CEO> Then I looked at Bitcoin and it was $6.50, I freaked out, used all the capital for an IT gig I was doing to buy GPUs
  132. Dec 08 03:36:07 <AMC-CEO> First one was a 6990
  133. Dec 08 03:36:10 <chairforce1> nice
  134. Dec 08 03:36:14 <AMC-CEO> Burned it up.
  135. Dec 08 03:36:41 <AMC-CEO> Newegg sent me another, so I was luckly.
  136. Dec 08 03:37:09 <AMC-CEO> Never been an Overclocker.
  137. Dec 08 03:37:22 <AMC-CEO> Until Bitcoin.
  138. Dec 08 03:38:47 <AMC-CEO> I just want to tell everyone that I am working in all the Investors best interest to make this business successful.
  139. Dec 08 03:39:09 <[8]> I don't doubt that.
  140. Dec 08 03:39:29 <AMC-CEO> Some do.
  141. Dec 08 03:39:46 <[8]> There is alot of panic going on, and that's understandable.
  142. Dec 08 03:39:50 <zefyr0s> people aren't comfortable with a lack of control
  143. Dec 08 03:40:00 <[8]> It's hard to put your fate in someone elses hands.
  144. Dec 08 03:40:59 <AMC-CEO> Yes, I know with all that has been happening, WeExchange, Bitfunder, Input.io, Coinlenders, etc.
  145. Dec 08 03:41:11 <chairforce1> yes i appreciate that remark
  146. Dec 08 03:41:44 <chairforce1> i was going to ask what your thoughts are in regard to how u feel the investors should feel
  147. Dec 08 03:41:52 <AMC-CEO> By the way we have recovered our 106 BTC from Ukyo not directly.
  148. Dec 08 03:42:12 <chairforce1> excellent
  149. Dec 08 03:42:14 <zefyr0s> neo&bee came thru
  150. Dec 08 03:42:18 <zefyr0s> ?
  151. Dec 08 03:42:57 <AMC-CEO> No, nothing to do with them, he had a number of shares of ActiveMining that we have attached with a lien.
  152. Dec 08 03:43:08 <zefyr0s> ahh that works
  153. Dec 08 03:43:26 <AMC-CEO> So, we got luckly.
  154. Dec 08 03:43:53 <[8]> Seems fair enough.
  155. Dec 08 03:45:45 <AMC-CEO> So, we will sell them to cover the 106 plus legal fees.
  156. Dec 08 03:46:27 <chairforce1> sell the shares?
  157. Dec 08 03:46:42 <AMC-CEO> Yes
  158. Dec 08 03:47:13 <chairforce1> well this is putting a lot of faith in having enough volume to carry out that trade
  159. Dec 08 03:47:20 <zefyr0s> err that's a bunch of shares
  160. Dec 08 03:47:43 <AMC-CEO> Not all at once.
  161. Dec 08 03:47:49 <zefyr0s> right
  162. Dec 08 03:48:04 <AMC-CEO> we won't dump them on the market.
  163. Dec 08 03:49:23 <AMC-CEO> Most likely we will keep them for awhile to see what happens with NeoBee.
  164. Dec 08 03:50:46 <zefyr0s> Can you say what was shipped?
  165. Dec 08 03:50:54 <AMC-CEO> No
  166. Dec 08 03:50:59 <zefyr0s> :P
  167. Dec 08 03:52:40 <AMC-CEO> Going to get some zzz's ttyl
  168. Dec 08 03:52:45 <hdheuzbsiwhdb> Why
  169. Dec 08 03:52:45 <chairforce1> do u see the difference with active mining and competitors like knc being that we have shares?
  170. Dec 08 03:52:47 <zefyr0s> later thank you
  171. Dec 08 03:53:06 <chairforce1> in regards to releasing information
  172. Dec 08 03:53:18 <hdheuzbsiwhdb> Why can't you say what shipped
  173. Dec 08 03:53:26 <AMC-CEO> Yes, we have to go by the SEC rules.
  174. Dec 08 03:53:44 <chairforce1> ok, just reaffirming our pm's
  175. Dec 08 03:53:52 <hdheuzbsiwhdb> can. You elaborate on that
  176. Dec 08 03:54:16 <AMC-CEO> Here is the deal, we have to release infomation to all of our Investors in a formal way, i.e our Announcement thread.
  177. Dec 08 03:54:38 <zefyr0s> I can dig that
  178. Dec 08 03:55:20 <hdheuzbsiwhdb> Makes sense. Why are you choosing to delay an announcement about it
  179. Dec 08 03:56:05 <AMC-CEO> Ukyo/Ukto said in early October that the SEC was looking at us. I can see why, we are mostly likely the most visable Virtual stock, I think.
  180. Dec 08 03:56:24 <AMC-CEO> Maybe, the largest.
  181. Dec 08 03:56:34 <chairforce1> i can see this
  182. Dec 08 03:57:02 <chairforce1> i believe people r wondering why there is a restraint in releasing more info in the announcement thread
  183. Dec 08 03:57:28 <chairforce1> history tells me it stems from a fear of giving away a competitive edge
  184. Dec 08 03:57:40 * Kleeck (~Kleeck@c-50-151-121-65.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined
  185. Dec 08 03:57:51 <chairforce1> kleeck
  186. Dec 08 03:57:56 <Kleeck> hey
  187. Dec 08 03:58:05 <chairforce1> we r having a nice discussion wiht ken
  188. Dec 08 03:58:06 <Kleeck> Can't sleep. What's up in here?
  189. Dec 08 03:58:10 <Kleeck> Oh?
  190. Dec 08 03:58:15 <Kleeck> Hello, Ken.
  191. Dec 08 03:58:19 <Kleeck> Up late as well, I see.
  192. Dec 08 03:58:20 <AMC-CEO> So, since he said that, which he denied, but then I sent him his Skype transcript, I have been somewhat worried about the SEC.
  193. Dec 08 03:58:44 <AMC-CEO> We hired Macro of the Bitcoin Foundation.
  194. Dec 08 03:58:54 <zefyr0s> And short of talking to them directly its sort of a waiting game?
  195. Dec 08 03:59:18 <AMC-CEO> Getting ready to get some zzzz's, but some had a few more questions.
  196. Dec 08 04:00:20 <Kleeck> Ken, not sure what all has been asked, but is there any word on getting some pictures and or video of the operation?
  197. Dec 08 04:00:41 <Kleeck> Visual evidence, as it were.
  198. Dec 08 04:00:50 <AMC-CEO> I will be working on releasing some in the near future.
  199. Dec 08 04:01:32 <AMC-CEO> We are putting a lot of machines together now.
  200. Dec 08 04:01:34 <Kleeck> Excellent. I think progress update WITH visual confirmation is important. It'll kill a large amount of this FUD.
  201. Dec 08 04:01:38 <Kleeck> That's great to hear.
  202. Dec 08 04:01:44 <Kleeck> So you DO have some eASIC chips?
  203. Dec 08 04:01:47 <chairforce1> that is very excellent news
  204. Dec 08 04:02:07 <Kleeck> The announcement was confusing, due to talk of delays, but also talk of shipping product.
  205. Dec 08 04:02:22 <Kleeck> If you could get a video up of a running machine that would be huge.
  206. Dec 08 04:02:26 <AMC-CEO> As, I said above, I can only release certain information in our Announcement thread, due to SEC reg.
  207. Dec 08 04:02:49 <Kleeck> I understand. Is this due to insider trading laws?
  208. Dec 08 04:03:02 <chairforce1> due u believe that mining is as important or more important with regard to selling miners?
  209. Dec 08 04:03:12 <chairforce1> do
  210. Dec 08 04:03:16 <chairforce1> lol
  211. Dec 08 04:03:33 <AMC-CEO> Yes, did you see above about Ukto telling me about the SEC asking about us.
  212. Dec 08 04:03:42 <Kleeck> I didn't.
  213. Dec 08 04:03:54 <chairforce1> i want to make sure that mining is as prevalent as sales
  214. Dec 08 04:04:43 <AMC-CEO> So, since he said that, which he denied, but then I sent him his Skype transcript, I have been somewhat worried about the SEC.
  215. Dec 08 04:05:33 <Kleeck> And the Skype transcript confirmed that he did say the SEC was asking specifically about ActM?
  216. Dec 08 04:05:37 <AMC-CEO> We will do what ever make us the most profit. There are some other consideration which have to be taken into account.
  217. Dec 08 04:05:50 <AMC-CEO> Yes.
  218. Dec 08 04:06:05 <chairforce1> hmm ok
  219. Dec 08 04:06:16 <chairforce1> both statements r interesting
  220. Dec 08 04:06:23 <Kleeck> What would be an SEC approved method of releasing information like pictures/video to shareholders?
  221. Dec 08 04:06:39 <moriarty> Kleeck, no compromising pictures
  222. Dec 08 04:06:45 <Kleeck> Many companies do it, so there has to be a way that isn't given advantage to a subset of investors.
  223. Dec 08 04:07:18 <Kleeck> moriarty, it can be assumed that I don't want any compromising picures. ALL of our competition release video and pictures of their devices.
  224. Dec 08 04:07:41 <Kleeck> KnC, FastHash, and CoinTerra are ALL doing just fine.
  225. Dec 08 04:07:54 <Kleeck> Well, FastHash may not be. We'll see.
  226. Dec 08 04:08:21 <moriarty> Kleeck, pictures of sexy models help however with the SEC approval
  227. Dec 08 04:08:35 <Kleeck> Oh, absolutely.
  228. Dec 08 04:09:00 <AMC-CEO> You just need to do it so all Investors get the information, we do it in our Announcement thread.
  229. Dec 08 04:09:28 <Kleeck> So, why can you " only release certain information in our Announcement thread, due to SEC reg."
  230. Dec 08 04:09:46 <Kleeck> ?
  231. Dec 08 04:10:41 <AMC-CEO> Not the SEC reg, but competitive and customers have to be taken into account.
  232. Dec 08 04:11:12 <chairforce1> i see
  233. Dec 08 04:11:21 <AMC-CEO> We have a number of things going on and interacting with each other. I know it seems simple when looking in.
  234. Dec 08 04:11:32 <AMC-CEO> But it isn't.
  235. Dec 08 04:11:33 <Kleeck> I don't think it's all simple.
  236. Dec 08 04:11:53 <Kleeck> But I do think we can get better communication to shareholders, inspite of these interactions and complexities.
  237. Dec 08 04:11:58 <AMC-CEO> Some things are cover by NDA like the number and price of the chips.
  238. Dec 08 04:12:04 <Kleeck> Sure.
  239. Dec 08 04:12:07 <chairforce1> yes
  240. Dec 08 04:12:34 <Kleeck> When would you feel safe releasing a video of a miner hashing?
  241. Dec 08 04:12:44 <AMC-CEO> We could, however we know our competitors look at our thread as well as our customers.
  242. Dec 08 04:13:05 <chairforce1> in terms of communication i believe this very exchange we r having right now between us and u is enough to satisfy most
  243. Dec 08 04:13:11 <chairforce1> this should happen more often
  244. Dec 08 04:13:18 <zefyr0s> Not much they'd be able to do at this point
  245. Dec 08 04:13:24 <chairforce1> even if u are telling us we can not know certain things
  246. Dec 08 04:13:24 <Kleeck> It seems that once you're shipping miners the information is public - so why not control the flow of information by releasing your own perfomance video/announcement?
  247. Dec 08 04:13:55 <AMC-CEO> Well, it takes a lot of time, I am going to be very busy, do some programming in the next few weeks.
  248. Dec 08 04:14:21 <AMC-CEO> When I program, I don't like to stop as I get very deep into the code.
  249. Dec 08 04:14:39 <Kleeck> Understandable. Remember when everyone said you need a PR/Marketing person?
  250. Dec 08 04:14:42 <Kleeck> This is what they would do.
  251. Dec 08 04:14:47 <Kleeck> So you don't have to.
  252. Dec 08 04:15:06 <Kleeck> A quick walkthru of the manufacturing site would do wonders.
  253. Dec 08 04:15:10 <AMC-CEO> I know, but do remember when we had one and a board, what did they do.
  254. Dec 08 04:15:25 <Kleeck> Not get much information from you, if I recall.
  255. Dec 08 04:15:31 <Kleeck> And then get frustrated and leave.
  256. Dec 08 04:16:03 <AMC-CEO> I trusted them, so now it takes a lot more for me to trust someone. We will get one when the time is right.
  257. Dec 08 04:16:04 <Kleeck> There is a pattern here Ken. I know you're busy, but the choke hold on any information, even basic confirmation of the first shipped miner is far too great.
  258. Dec 08 04:16:33 <Kleeck> The time is right, Ken. Right now. People are stalking your family on facebook for info. That's how out of control this has gotten.
  259. Dec 08 04:16:38 <Kleeck> I don't condone that, of course.
  260. Dec 08 04:16:45 <Kleeck> But people have so little information.
  261. Dec 08 04:16:53 <Kleeck> And have invested in this operation.
  262. Dec 08 04:17:23 <chairforce1> yes people actually seems to be going crazy in the sense that they would never act the way they do in a professional work place
  263. Dec 08 04:17:44 <chairforce1> its kind of sad
  264. Dec 08 04:18:07 <Kleeck> It's very sad.
  265. Dec 08 04:18:07 <AMC-CEO> I am Invested more than anyone, the Avalons have made 1/2 Million dollars which I gave to all the Investors for their Investment.
  266. Dec 08 04:18:36 <Kleeck> That doesn't give you the right to ignore your shareholders, although it is appreciated.
  267. Dec 08 04:18:40 * wasubii (~quassel@125.116.68.8) has joined
  268. Dec 08 04:19:04 <Kleeck> Things like the first miner going out should not be one sentence in an announcement.
  269. Dec 08 04:19:25 <Kleeck> Your investors need verification.
  270. Dec 08 04:19:30 <wasubii> pictures/videos of hashing miners would have been nice
  271. Dec 08 04:19:38 <AMC-CEO> I am not ignore shareholders, you have to understand that in our internet world information travels fast to our competition and vendors and customers.
  272. Dec 08 04:19:54 <Kleeck> Ken. I'm asking for a walkthru of the manufacturing facility.
  273. Dec 08 04:19:55 <zefyr0s> good, let it
  274. Dec 08 04:20:02 <Kleeck> CoinTerra just put up a ton of pictures.
  275. Dec 08 04:20:13 <Kleeck> Friedcat did a FULL walkthru and report on his super secret cooling
  276. Dec 08 04:20:14 <zefyr0s> it really can't help them all that much to know can it?
  277. Dec 08 04:20:23 <Kleeck> You CAN do this without damaging the company.
  278. Dec 08 04:20:30 <AMC-CEO> Just talked to eASIC on Friday and they are getting a lot of emails from Investors, which is buging them.
  279. Dec 08 04:20:31 <Kleeck> Many successful companies do.
  280. Dec 08 04:20:36 <Kleeck> I bet they are.
  281. Dec 08 04:20:47 <Kleeck> Investor confidence is low.
  282. Dec 08 04:20:59 <Kleeck> The only thing that can change that is you releasing hard evidence of the operation.
  283. Dec 08 04:21:00 <AMC-CEO> So, if I gave you our Engineers names, then this would cause problems also.
  284. Dec 08 04:21:12 <Kleeck> I don't want that.
  285. Dec 08 04:21:15 <chairforce1> we dont need names
  286. Dec 08 04:21:35 <Kleeck> We want simple things like pictures of miners. Images of the assmebly area.
  287. Dec 08 04:21:35 <AMC-CEO> How do you know that, you don't.
  288. Dec 08 04:21:49 <Kleeck> Why would I need a name?
  289. Dec 08 04:21:55 <Kleeck> Just take a picture of what you have.
  290. Dec 08 04:22:13 <wasubii> or at least tell the investors in words what you have...
  291. Dec 08 04:22:23 <Kleeck> We know more about the assembly area from Micah's facebook page then from you at this point.
  292. Dec 08 04:24:12 <AMC-CEO> I don't why you would need a name, but in the thread someone ask about the engineers name.
  293. Dec 08 04:24:14 * Steve0421 (~salicea@199.241.31.245) has joined
  294. Dec 08 04:24:27 <Kleeck> Oh. That isn't what we're asking here, for the record.
  295. Dec 08 04:24:31 <zefyr0s> tha tdoesn't mean without that we would be unhappy with other info
  296. Dec 08 04:24:38 <AMC-CEO> Investors want to know every detail.
  297. Dec 08 04:24:47 <Kleeck> We aren't asking for every detail.
  298. Dec 08 04:24:48 <zefyr0s> would be happy with some
  299. Dec 08 04:25:06 <AMC-CEO> I gave you some and you are still not happy.
  300. Dec 08 04:25:11 <Kleeck> Right now our competition is releasing video and pictures of what they have.
  301. Dec 08 04:25:30 <Kleeck> We want the same thing. A case, a walkthru, something.
  302. Dec 08 04:25:44 <Kleeck> We don't need the secret sauce, just show us the bottle.
  303. Dec 08 04:26:29 <AMC-CEO> I just showed the bottle, and you still want more.
  304. Dec 08 04:26:35 <Kleeck> When?
  305. Dec 08 04:26:44 <Kleeck> Did I miss it?
  306. Dec 08 04:26:45 <AMC-CEO> It was a big risk too.
  307. Dec 08 04:26:54 <wasubii> i must have missed it too
  308. Dec 08 04:26:55 <Kleeck> On the forums or what?
  309. Dec 08 04:27:02 <AMC-CEO> Intellihash
  310. Dec 08 04:27:07 <wasubii> you mean the NovemberAnnouncementTM?
  311. Dec 08 04:27:16 <Kleeck> Oh. That isn't confirmation, Ken.
  312. Dec 08 04:27:22 <Kleeck> Not at all what we're talking about.
  313. Dec 08 04:27:30 <AMC-CEO> It sure is.
  314. Dec 08 04:27:32 <Kleeck> When you say things like, "shipped our first product" SHOW us.
  315. Dec 08 04:27:45 <Kleeck> You are saying we have something in hand, but you won't reveal it to your shareholders?
  316. Dec 08 04:27:48 <Steve0421> Anyone interested in a KnC Jupiter Miner 550 GH/s?
  317. Dec 08 04:28:20 <Kleeck> Intellihash should be secret, your assembled, shipping miners should not.
  318. Dec 08 04:28:40 <wasubii> you know there is a reward available for ANY ActM customer to simply show the miner they have received. That is how little is known about our products, people are putting rewards on it just fir a glimpse
  319. Dec 08 04:29:13 <Kleeck> ^ That is how much disbelief there is. Which can easily be put to rest with simple, visual confirmation of what you've already claimed.
  320. Dec 08 04:29:21 <Kleeck> The effort is minimal to the impact.
  321. Dec 08 04:29:38 <AMC-CEO> How do you what the effort is.
  322. Dec 08 04:29:48 <Kleeck> Because I know how to take a picture.
  323. Dec 08 04:29:55 <Kleeck> And throw a 30 second video together.
  324. Dec 08 04:29:56 <AMC-CEO> We have a lot to do here, putting together a manufacturing operations
  325. Dec 08 04:30:06 <Kleeck> I'm not debating that.
  326. Dec 08 04:30:13 <wasubii> its actually quite strange that we didnt release photos or videos of our products. I mean - who doesnt release pictures?
  327. Dec 08 04:30:21 <wasubii> use it as a way to drive up sales
  328. Dec 08 04:30:26 <Kleeck> No one doesn't. That's the issue. that's why there is FUD.
  329. Dec 08 04:30:31 <Kleeck> Because we have NO confirmation.
  330. Dec 08 04:30:32 <wasubii> everyone does it - wierd that we havent
  331. Dec 08 04:30:41 <Kleeck> And it is SO easy. All of our competitors do it.
  332. Dec 08 04:30:41 <AMC-CEO> It takes a lot of time, not only that transferring shares, talking to lawyers, etc.
  333. Dec 08 04:30:56 <Kleeck> Ken, no one is debating whether you're busy.
  334. Dec 08 04:31:09 <wasubii> yeah, and i bet they have massive spikes in sales immediately after releasing the photos/videos
  335. Dec 08 04:31:33 <Kleeck> But you claim to have hit a major milestone and have done NOTHING to prove it to your shareholders. We want to celebrate but instead we get FUD.
  336. Dec 08 04:31:36 <AMC-CEO> I getting tired of all you, so STFU
  337. Dec 08 04:31:41 <Kleeck> Wow, Ken.
  338. Dec 08 04:31:44 <Kleeck> Professional.
  339. Dec 08 04:31:50 <wasubii> this is our CEO?
  340. Dec 08 04:31:53 <wasubii> greeeeeat
  341. Dec 08 04:32:18 <AMC-CEO> Not too Professional I know.
  342. Dec 08 04:32:27 <Kleeck> No. Not at all.
  343. Dec 08 04:33:09 <AMC-CEO> Good
  344. Dec 08 04:33:26 <zefyr0s> later, tx
  345. Dec 08 04:33:31 * zefyr0s is now known as zef-sleep
  346. Dec 08 04:33:43 <wasubii> we all know you're under a lot of pressure Ken. But can you just try to see how much of a possitive thing it would be to release some key info
  347. Dec 08 04:34:12 <Kleeck> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=359084.0
  348. Dec 08 04:34:14 <AMC-CEO> I can't this is a scam.
  349. Dec 08 04:34:20 <Kleeck> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=346134.0
  350. Dec 08 04:34:26 <Kleeck> Ken. I don't believe that.
  351. Dec 08 04:34:31 <Kleeck> Many of us don't.
  352. Dec 08 04:34:33 * wasubii_ (~quassel@125.116.68.8) has joined
  353. Dec 08 04:34:39 <AMC-CEO> I wish you would.
  354. Dec 08 04:34:51 <Kleeck> We do want to see the product we've invested in, and that's not too much to ask.
  355. Dec 08 04:35:24 <Kleeck> Why would you want people to see ActM as a scam?
  356. Dec 08 04:35:39 <AMC-CEO> Yes, and how long did it take him to get there?
  357. Dec 08 04:36:10 <Kleeck> The point is he had hit a mile stone and revealed it.
  358. Dec 08 04:36:33 <AMC-CEO> When we get there we will revealed it.
  359. Dec 08 04:36:57 <wasubii_> shipping first product is a pretty huge milestone if you ask me
  360. Dec 08 04:37:09 <Kleeck> That's the general sentiment...
  361. Dec 08 04:37:37 <AMC-CEO> Yes, and that is why we announced it.
  362. Dec 08 04:37:50 * wasubii has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  363. Dec 08 04:38:05 <Kleeck> sigh.
  364. Dec 08 04:38:46 <Kleeck> I don't think there's anything more to say regarding getting some images of the operation/miners.
  365. Dec 08 04:38:53 <Kleeck> Seems like we've beat this one to death.
  366. Dec 08 04:38:54 <AMC-CEO> I am thinking about quiting, but I am not a quiter, so I can't
  367. Dec 08 04:39:08 <Kleeck> Yes. It would be wise to not do that.
  368. Dec 08 04:39:15 <AMC-CEO> Why
  369. Dec 08 04:39:26 <wasubii_> because we have already come so far
  370. Dec 08 04:39:35 <Kleeck> Because you've convinced people to trust you..
  371. Dec 08 04:39:37 <wasubii_> last hurdle and all that
  372. Dec 08 04:39:39 <Kleeck> With a lot of money.
  373. Dec 08 04:39:41 <AMC-CEO> You guys don't think so.
  374. Dec 08 04:39:51 <wasubii_> we all WANT to believe ken
  375. Dec 08 04:39:58 <wasubii_> you see it every week in the forum
  376. Dec 08 04:40:00 <Kleeck> That's not true. Making a request of you is not equal to thinking we haven't come far.
  377. Dec 08 04:40:09 <wasubii_> its just hard will such a vacuum
  378. Dec 08 04:40:19 <Kleeck> We're asking for a picture, Ken.
  379. Dec 08 04:40:21 <AMC-CEO> And I have given a lot of it back too
  380. Dec 08 04:40:34 <wasubii_> a lot of what?
  381. Dec 08 04:41:02 <AMC-CEO> Money
  382. Dec 08 04:41:14 <AMC-CEO> 1/2 million from the Avalons
  383. Dec 08 04:41:22 <wasubii_> my investment was in bitcoin not fiat
  384. Dec 08 04:41:46 <wasubii_> if the exchange rate was $2 you wouldnt be counting the dividends in fiat
  385. Dec 08 04:42:03 <AMC-CEO> Doesn't matter you want it in Bitcoins it is 670
  386. Dec 08 04:42:53 <wasubii_> but my original investment would now be at the same level
  387. Dec 08 04:43:01 <wasubii_> had i not invested it
  388. Dec 08 04:43:20 <AMC-CEO> Sure, I understand that.
  389. Dec 08 04:43:27 <wasubii_> so my return on investment should be counted in BTC
  390. Dec 08 04:44:19 <wasubii_> im just saying that half a million seems like a lot of dividends, but that is due to the price rise, not the sucess of our mining operation
  391. Dec 08 04:44:46 <wasubii_> anywya, its neither here nor there
  392. Dec 08 04:45:06 <AMC-CEO> Anyway, its neither here nor there
  393. Dec 08 04:45:19 <wasubii_> yes, i agree
  394. Dec 08 04:45:56 <AMC-CEO> I just want to make this successful for all of us.
  395. Dec 08 04:46:00 <Kleeck> Good.
  396. Dec 08 04:46:03 <Kleeck> That's what we want.
  397. Dec 08 04:46:13 <Kleeck> And we're going to bitch and moan all the way there.
  398. Dec 08 04:46:34 <AMC-CEO> And I am tired of having to baby sit all of you.
  399. Dec 08 04:46:44 <Kleeck> Sounds like you need a PR guy.
  400. Dec 08 04:46:45 <wasubii_> you should appoint a PR guy
  401. Dec 08 04:46:55 <wasubii_> exactly
  402. Dec 08 04:47:10 <chairforce1> really, nobody questions the effort u put into this
  403. Dec 08 04:47:12 <AMC-CEO> I really do, but I don't have time to hire one that I can trust.
  404. Dec 08 04:47:22 <wasubii_> i vote for Kleeck!!!
  405. Dec 08 04:47:23 <wasubii_> :)
  406. Dec 08 04:47:32 <AMC-CEO> Hell no.
  407. Dec 08 04:47:47 <chairforce1> would a picture of a miner to be shipped be too revealing?
  408. Dec 08 04:47:50 <[8]> Sorry Kleek :(
  409. Dec 08 04:47:53 <Kleeck> lol
  410. Dec 08 04:48:04 <AMC-CEO> No Investors as PR guys, insider trading.
  411. Dec 08 04:48:09 <Kleeck> I agree.
  412. Dec 08 04:48:11 <wasubii_> yeah, ok i get that
  413. Dec 08 04:48:27 <Kleeck> I do like the "Hell no." response though.
  414. Dec 08 04:48:32 <wasubii_> but nothing to stop the new guy you hire from getting on cyrptostocks
  415. Dec 08 04:48:41 <wasubii_> jus' sayin'
  416. Dec 08 04:48:45 <AMC-CEO> Yes, there is.
  417. Dec 08 04:48:51 <AMC-CEO> An Agreement.
  418. Dec 08 04:48:52 <Kleeck> Cut off his hands.
  419. Dec 08 04:48:54 <Kleeck> oh
  420. Dec 08 04:48:56 <wasubii_> LOL
  421. Dec 08 04:48:56 <Kleeck> or an agreement
  422. Dec 08 04:49:05 <AMC-CEO> That will work too.
  423. Dec 08 04:49:33 <Kleeck> "I'm sorry, does this contract say that I have to have my hands removed for this position?" Ken: "Yes. Yes it does."
  424. Dec 08 04:49:55 <wasubii_> 'Welcome to VMC'
  425. Dec 08 04:50:00 <wasubii_> *Shakes stump*
  426. Dec 08 04:50:20 <Kleeck> And then we're in the catch 22 of needing a PR guy, but not having the time to vet and hire someone trustworthy, which spirals us into more need of a PR guy.
  427. Dec 08 04:50:38 <wasubii_> yes - quite an impasse
  428. Dec 08 04:50:38 <[8]> He doesnt need hands. Just a mouth to shout the Activemining gospel.
  429. Dec 08 04:51:02 <Kleeck> Ken, hand Micah a camera. He's already taken a few shots of the assembly area last month.
  430. Dec 08 04:51:25 <AMC-CEO> Yes, and he is going to hear about that on Monday.
  431. Dec 08 04:51:26 <wasubii_> i guess Ken needs to look at it as an investment in his time. Spend a little now to get a PR guy then save time not being on IRC and forums..
  432. Dec 08 04:51:32 <Kleeck> Eek. RIP Micah.
  433. Dec 08 04:51:44 <chairforce1> what?
  434. Dec 08 04:52:15 <Kleeck> Ken is going to chop of Micah's hands.
  435. Dec 08 04:52:15 <chairforce1> nvm
  436. Dec 08 04:52:19 <chairforce1> i see
  437. Dec 08 04:52:25 <chairforce1> i thought there was soemthing more grave
  438. Dec 08 04:52:35 <AMC-CEO> So he can't take anymore pictures.
  439. Dec 08 04:52:36 <Kleeck> *rimshot*
  440. Dec 08 04:52:40 <Kleeck> Exactly.
  441. Dec 08 04:52:45 <chairforce1> ken y are u adverse to showing a picture of a miner to be shipped
  442. Dec 08 04:53:01 <AMC-CEO> I told you this is a scam.
  443. Dec 08 04:53:07 <wasubii_> surely once it is in the public domain the pictues will come out anyway
  444. Dec 08 04:53:22 <wasubii_> oh come on Ken, please dont say that even with sarcasm
  445. Dec 08 04:53:55 <AMC-CEO> Well, I am so sick of all this crap.
  446. Dec 08 04:54:06 <chairforce1> i see
  447. Dec 08 04:54:19 <Kleeck> You realize that even those of us that don't think this is a scam still want to see pictures?
  448. Dec 08 04:54:22 <AMC-CEO> I just want to get this rolling and I need to get some stuff done.
  449. Dec 08 04:54:25 <wasubii_> of us asking for information on the highly specualtive investment we have made?
  450. Dec 08 04:54:50 <wasubii_> i think thats pretty normal
  451. Dec 08 04:54:57 <wasubii_> to ask for those details
  452. Dec 08 04:55:09 <AMC-CEO> I don't blame any of you.
  453. Dec 08 04:55:16 <chairforce1> we know u dont
  454. Dec 08 04:55:50 <wasubii_> before you go Ken, is there any thing any of us can do to help?
  455. Dec 08 04:55:58 <[8]> I for one had to stop going to the thread. it's just too much…some of those guys. Do they sleep???
  456. Dec 08 04:56:13 <[8]> None stop doom
  457. Dec 08 04:56:18 <AMC-CEO> I don't think so.
  458. Dec 08 04:56:47 <wasubii_> Ok - just realise we are also here to support you if you need us - we all want to see this thing succeed
  459. Dec 08 04:57:14 <AMC-CEO> I know you guys are. Sorry for venting on you guys.
  460. Dec 08 04:57:26 <wasubii_> we bitch and moan but at the end of the day we are all aiming for the same thing. And i for one would love to help out if i can
  461. Dec 08 04:57:36 <chairforce1> i personally would rather u vent to us
  462. Dec 08 04:57:41 <chairforce1> whatever it takes
  463. Dec 08 04:57:49 <chairforce1> to keep all parties level headed and on track
  464. Dec 08 04:58:37 <AMC-CEO> Yes, my main goal to make this successful. Which will make you and me successful.
  465. Dec 08 04:59:04 <AMC-CEO> is to make*
  466. Dec 08 04:59:40 <AMC-CEO> Ok, guys, I am going to get some zzzz's
  467. Dec 08 04:59:43 <AMC-CEO> ttyl
  468. Dec 08 04:59:48 <chairforce1> thanks for stopping by
  469. Dec 08 05:00:01 <Kleeck> Night Ken.
  470. Dec 08 05:00:06 <wasubii_> ciao
  471. Dec 08 05:00:15 <AMC-CEO> Thanks, it will be a long time before I am back, I can tell you that.
  472. Dec 08 05:00:23 <chairforce1> :/
  473. Dec 08 05:00:25 <chairforce1> ok
  474. Dec 08 05:00:37 <Kleeck> Is that good or bad?
  475. Dec 08 05:00:52 <Kleeck> Oh, going into the coding trench.
  476. Dec 08 05:00:54 <chairforce1> im thinking he means he will be working hard
  477. Dec 08 05:00:55 <wasubii_> read into it what you will - in true ActM style...
  478. Dec 08 05:00:57 <AMC-CEO> No, I am going to try a get a lot of really good work done in the next few weeks.
  479. Dec 08 05:01:03 <Kleeck> Awesome.
  480. Dec 08 05:01:07 <wasubii_> sounds great
  481. Dec 08 05:01:12 <chairforce1> if u ever need to vent u can come here
  482. Dec 08 05:01:19 <chairforce1> we r not to judgmental
  483. Dec 08 05:01:21 <wasubii_> dont be shy to drop us a bone every now and again
  484. Dec 08 05:01:24 <AMC-CEO> I hope not for awhile.
  485. Dec 08 05:01:25 <chairforce1> i cant spell
  486. Dec 08 05:01:27 <wasubii_> please :)
  487. Dec 08 05:01:43 <AMC-CEO> Good things are coming just hold on.
  488. Dec 08 05:01:53 <chairforce1> affirmative
  489. Dec 08 05:01:57 <wasubii_> aye aye sir
  490. Dec 08 05:02:03 <AMC-CEO> ttyl
  491. Dec 08 05:02:11 <Kleeck> Night.
  492. Dec 08 05:03:07 <wasubii_> So - what else is going on fellas?
  493. Dec 08 05:03:29 <wasubii_> anyone having fun with the current volatility?
  494. Dec 08 05:03:34 <chairforce1> i desperately need to sleep
  495. Dec 08 05:03:35 <chairforce1> and no
  496. Dec 08 05:03:38 <chairforce1> i have no btc left
  497. Dec 08 05:03:51 <Kleeck> My soul is dying.
  498. Dec 08 05:04:00 <Kleeck> BTC is my lifeforce.
  499. Dec 08 05:04:05 <wasubii_> haha
  500. Dec 08 05:04:24 <wasubii_> muuuust accccuummulllate!!
  501. Dec 08 05:04:24 <chairforce1> the only btc i have is liquidity of the small portion of asicminer shares i own
  502. Dec 08 05:04:26 <Kleeck> I wouldn't even have been on to pester Ken had my damn shoulder not been in so much pain.
  503. Dec 08 05:04:52 <Kleeck> My side BTC is in Alberto Armandi's wallet.
  504. Dec 08 05:05:06 <wasubii_> sorry - who?
  505. Dec 08 05:05:08 <Kleeck> Everything else is entrusted to Ken.
  506. Dec 08 05:05:13 <Kleeck> The Labcoin scammer.
  507. Dec 08 05:05:13 <chairforce1> lol same
  508. Dec 08 05:05:17 <wasubii_> ah
  509. Dec 08 05:05:19 <wasubii_> fucker
  510. Dec 08 05:05:19 <chairforce1> except for the labcoin part
  511. Dec 08 05:05:27 <Kleeck> That we are hunting down.
  512. Dec 08 05:06:15 * AMC-CEO has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
  513. Dec 08 05:10:27 <FireLighter> well that was an interesting chat with Ken
  514. Dec 08 05:11:03 <[8]> Shit is tense.
  515. Dec 08 05:11:16 <FireLighter> bloody hell it is
  516. Dec 08 05:11:34 <FireLighter> I can't say I appreciate or understand Ken's sense of humour
  517. Dec 08 05:11:48 <FireLighter> "this is a scam..."
  518. Dec 08 05:11:57 <[8]> I get it. I don't like it, but i get it.
  519. Dec 08 05:12:18 <FireLighter> yeah? what do you get?
  520. Dec 08 05:12:46 <chairforce1> he is aware that we have so little control over the success of active mining
  521. Dec 08 05:13:03 <chairforce1> im just guessing
  522. Dec 08 05:13:09 <[8]> Working my ass off and feeling like it's going unappreciated.
  523. Dec 08 05:13:22 <[8]> I'd feel the same.
  524. Dec 08 05:13:33 <Kleeck> Well, it largely is unappreciated. Mainly due to the fact that we don't now what he is doing...
  525. Dec 08 05:13:33 <FireLighter> but "..too busy to get some photos.."
  526. Dec 08 05:13:34 <FireLighter> jesus
  527. Dec 08 05:13:37 <wasubii_> but he could so easily be appreciated if he gave proper information on where we stand
  528. Dec 08 05:13:46 <chairforce1> i agree firelighter
  529. Dec 08 05:14:00 <Kleeck> FireLighter, we hit that argument pretty hard, i think.
  530. Dec 08 05:14:01 <wasubii_> i get that delays happen - this is the real world. But at least tell us how much the delay will affect us
  531. Dec 08 05:14:02 <FireLighter> yes, he would be a fucking hero
  532. Dec 08 05:14:14 <Kleeck> If you're too busy for a picture or two, then hire a PR guy.
  533. Dec 08 05:14:30 <FireLighter> yeah I read the lot Kleeck, you did very well to remain firm but polite
  534. Dec 08 05:14:39 <Kleeck> Thanks.
  535. Dec 08 05:14:43 <[8]> Of course as a shareholder i'm with you guys. Just looking at it from all angles.
  536. Dec 08 05:14:47 <wasubii_> yeah, well done
  537. Dec 08 05:15:20 <[8]> +1 PR
  538. Dec 08 05:15:33 <chairforce1> kleeck i emailed u
  539. Dec 08 05:15:36 <Kleeck> Ok.
  540. Dec 08 05:15:38 <FireLighter> I don't see a PR guy coming on deck
  541. Dec 08 05:15:40 <chairforce1> u have txt file
  542. Dec 08 05:15:42 <chairforce1> i need to sleep
  543. Dec 08 05:15:48 <chairforce1> later all
  544. Dec 08 05:15:57 * chairforce1 has quit (Quit: Page closed)
  545. Dec 08 05:16:07 <FireLighter> so Ken is coding intelihash over the next three weeks?
  546. Dec 08 05:17:47 <wasubii_> no idea - he didnt say what he would be busy with
  547. Dec 08 05:18:03 <FireLighter> he's going to be elbow deep in code
  548. Dec 08 05:21:56 * grimholt (~Svein@239.84-48-57.nextgentel.com) has joined
  549. Dec 08 05:24:10 <Kleeck> I think he's writing the site for share swapping to CTrade
  550. Dec 08 05:24:14 <Kleeck> That makes the most sense, at lease.
  551. Dec 08 05:24:19 <Kleeck> least*
  552. Dec 08 13:28:48 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer)
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