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- Evilagram: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH7N1WPvyI8
- Evilagram: did you ever see that DMC4 keyboard video?
- AdamTM: i think so
- Evilagram: I once met someone who SERIOUSLY complained that DMC4 didn't have mouse controls
- Evilagram: no
- Evilagram: you can barely play this game on keyboard
- AdamTM: i think i tried
- Evilagram: it's even more ridiculous to try to bind for mouse too
- Evilagram: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfqi4eQI5Og
- AdamTM: its like playing piano
- Evilagram: yup
- Evilagram: I imagine my melee play is a bit like what piano players feel
- Evilagram: when I get into it right I get so attuned to my controller and aware of everything I do with it
- Evilagram: really helps my inverse immersion
- Evilagram: haha
- AdamTM: submersion
- Evilagram: SUBMERSION
- Evilagram: haha
- Evilagram: I'm gonna use that
- Evilagram: shit DMC4 needed more enemies
- AdamTM: heh
- AdamTM: warframes melee 2.0 is pathetic...but its still better than what they had before
- Evilagram: yeah I heard
- Evilagram: they massively boosted the damage
- Evilagram: made it its own weapon
- AdamTM: at least blocking works
- Evilagram: added combo multipiers
- Evilagram: and yeah that
- AdamTM: its still no melee game
- Evilagram: aye
- AdamTM: but punching shit with kogake is super satisfying
- Evilagram: some cool webms though
- Evilagram: might retry it
- AdamTM: you can play stylish
- AdamTM: but its different
- Evilagram: gonna head out for brooklyn soon
- AdamTM: it depends on your parcour
- AdamTM: k
- Evilagram: mirror's edge is sooooo stylish
- Evilagram: have I sent you any time trial runs?
- AdamTM: yeah you did
- Evilagram: jesus christ they're so cool
- Evilagram: I'd love to see that movement style in another game
- Evilagram: I hope ME2 doesn't suck
- Evilagram: and carries everything over
- Evilagram: or invents new stuff to replace it
- AdamTM: >fat chance
- Evilagram: yeah
- Evilagram: it always is
- Evilagram: I wish I could trust devs to not fuck shit up
- AdamTM: >fat chance 2.0
- AdamTM: hmmm
- AdamTM: this makes me wonder
- AdamTM: if you could create a speedrun scene in warframe
- Evilagram: ooh
- AdamTM: you have obstacles, hazards
- Evilagram: tons of people love rushing levels
- AdamTM: etc
- AdamTM: yeah i do too
- Evilagram: same
- AdamTM: problem is
- Evilagram: though it's kinda like a rogelike
- AdamTM: randomly generated levels
- Evilagram: yeah
- Evilagram: so lot of luck
- Evilagram: though people speedrun spelunky
- AdamTM: so its only races in that one level
- AdamTM: racing could be a thing
- Evilagram: yeah
- AdamTM: i mean you get 4 players in, random map, everything is equal
- Evilagram: yeah
- AdamTM: same class
- AdamTM: and mods
- Evilagram: like puzzle fighter
- Evilagram: well, you could go for different classes
- Evilagram: and mods
- Evilagram: if there were regulating rules
- AdamTM: yeah
- Evilagram: like if everyone had the same pool to pick from
- AdamTM: though im pretty sure everyone will run Volt
- Evilagram: dark souls runs run the gamut for that reason
- Evilagram: haha
- Evilagram: I was trying to get volt last time
- AdamTM: i think i have all his parts
- AdamTM: never built him
- Evilagram: it would certainly be cooler than playing the game normally
- AdamTM: yeah
- AdamTM: imagine all the builds
- Evilagram: the movement system would make it cool
- AdamTM: vauban has jump pads
- Evilagram: I can't, don't know the game well enough
- AdamTM: nova has wormholes
- AdamTM: loki can switch-teleport with his decoy
- AdamTM: all the mobility powers suddenly get viable
- AdamTM: and weapons, like whips, that pull to enemies
- Evilagram: yeah
- AdamTM: ah. nice. Volts speed buff is global. so in a race it would be a really tactical skill
- Evilagram: that's the thing, speedrunning and racing recontextualizes EVERYTHING
- Evilagram: in terms of what's fastest
- AdamTM: yeah
- Evilagram: so tradeoffs become more interesting
- Evilagram: so if volt uses his speed powerup, everyone becomes faster?
- AdamTM: yes
- Evilagram: meaning he could only do it if he has a lead, and perhaps dependent on terrain
- AdamTM: but only in his vicinity
- Evilagram: ah
- AdamTM: 25 meters max
- Evilagram: so he can only do it if he's ahead or behind
- AdamTM: yeah
- AdamTM: though, a 50% speed boost might make players flip out
- Evilagram: or if his opponents aren't moving in a way where they could benefit
- Evilagram: like down a zipline
- Evilagram: mindgames in speedruns
- Evilagram: this could be interesting
- AdamTM: yeah
- AdamTM: also volts shield
- Evilagram: that sounds interesting enough to get me back into the game
- AdamTM: is impassable
- Evilagram: though the grind will suck
- AdamTM: free block
- Evilagram: haha
- AdamTM: my god
- AdamTM: Warfame is the new mario cart
- AdamTM: im going to post this in the warframe general, see if anons are interested
- Evilagram: haha
- AdamTM: an oh man. loki will get banned so hard
- AdamTM: his switch teleport is too good for this
- AdamTM: he can switch with any unit, including players
- AdamTM: "that guy is winning!" *switch teleport*
- Evilagram: hahaha
- Evilagram: possible
- Evilagram: or that power alone might
- Evilagram: for early rulesets it's best to unban as much stuff as possible
- AdamTM: hard mode: loki only races
- Evilagram: except things that are eggregrious and obviously so from the outset
- AdamTM: everyone has switch teleport
- AdamTM: mindgames
- Evilagram: haha
- Evilagram: you'd probably use a few early on and save one for the end
- AdamTM: yeah then you also have to manage your energy economy
- AdamTM: decide if to pick up energy drops even if it slows you down
- AdamTM: etc
- Evilagram: also it could be possible to have different categories
- AdamTM: yeah
- Evilagram: like specific frames
- Evilagram: or unrestricted
- Evilagram: or tiering like pokemon
- AdamTM: you could tier it
- AdamTM: yes
- AdamTM: super hardmode: rhino only races. takes 2 hours to complete
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