adam3us Sep 26, 2016 16:52
eg petertodd claims to have a fine arts degree (and part of a physics degree) and former career in analog electronics.

brg444 Sep 26, 2016 16:52
yeah I'm not sure what his specialization has to do with his applied knowledge of Bitcoin and related systems. and if you ask me he may be intellectually-inclined but his social skills are cringe worthy

adam3us Sep 26, 2016 16:52
(lots of smart people figured bitcoin out because they found it super interesting - academic credentials have nothing as such to do with it)

brg444 Sep 26, 2016 16:51
orj ust google for his name but with time range pre-BTC

adam3us Sep 26, 2016 16:51
i mean the thing is if you know jack about crypto, distributed systems, p2p systems, game theory or economics you may not have immediate joy in proposing radical changes to the way bitcoin works.

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:50
https://www.google.nl/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=rizun%20robotics

adam3us Sep 26, 2016 16:50
citeseer is not turning up much.

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:50
and a lack of desire for a career in the private sector, or a lack of realisation that that's what you're doing :slightly_smiling_face:
it does serve as a highly reliable IQ test and test for perseverance

belcher Sep 26, 2016 16:48
irrelevant to bitcoin (except for QC) but so is peter r's robotics
quantum optics

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:48
what subfield are you in?

belcher Sep 26, 2016 16:47
sec ill log into my institution to use web of knowledge
if you google his name its only reddit and bitcointalk stuff

brg444 Sep 26, 2016 16:47
he looks like a spook to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:47
zander on the other hand...

belcher Sep 26, 2016 16:46
fwiw, in my day job i am also an academic in physics

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:46
a very intelligent guy, don't underestimate him

belcher Sep 26, 2016 16:46
oh a physicist

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:46
I recall seeing serious publications on robotics
Rizun

belcher Sep 26, 2016 16:46
whats his surname? so i can look him up

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:45
You wouldn't know it from his online antics, but Peter R is actually a serious academic, with an impressive-looking list of publications
Peter R

belcher Sep 26, 2016 16:43
bashco your new sticky on r/bitcoin contains a link to the journal Ledger, but isnt that journal run by peter_r or thomaszander (forgot which one)
nice image: https://i.imgur.com/wkTyyaV.png

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:41
thanks

bluematt Sep 26, 2016 16:40
Better to lose packets than send fewer
I mean if your bandwidth meter under shoots then your fucked

sysman Sep 26, 2016 16:39
@bluematt : (palmface)

bluematt Sep 26, 2016 16:39
@mmeijeri I'm sure it's applicable, but, no, I haven't looked at it... FIBRE is really not so designed for less than vps hosts (ie not so much for home stuff)

sysman Sep 26, 2016 16:39
SCTP - used in VoIP, I was configuring it multiple times cisco/solaris/linux

bluematt Sep 26, 2016 16:38
@sysman classic...

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:38
any potential for using that, contributing stuff to it?
And what about QUIC/SCTP?

bluematt Sep 26, 2016 16:37
And I'm lazy :)

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:37
I was just curious

bluematt Sep 26, 2016 16:37
There's even a comment to make it easier :p
If you have less bandwidth, modify the constant in the code
Something something for advanced users
@mmeijeri lolno, it uses 1Gbps constant bandwidth for a few ms when a block comes in

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:35
@bluematt: same question about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_Control_Transmission_Protocol

sysman Sep 26, 2016 16:35
height=431677 warning='5 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'

mmeijeri Sep 26, 2016 16:35
@bluematt: now that you're here, let me take the opportunity to ask you something. I may have asked it before, but if so I don't recall the answer. Have you looked at QUIC and does Fibre do end to end bandwidth discovery?

bluematt Sep 26, 2016 16:34
I mean watching me make wild hand waving is not so important

moli Sep 26, 2016 16:34
the best video from scaling i've seen is the one sipa presented segwit last year

bluematt Sep 26, 2016 16:34
Oh, beat me to it

moli Sep 26, 2016 16:34
bluematt we need a better video though

bluematt Sep 26, 2016 16:33
https://twitter.com/TheBlueMatt/status/772990115178176512

moli Sep 26, 2016 16:33
bluematt I watched this one : https://twitter.com/GiulioCoraggio/status/771406523776065538

bluematt Sep 26, 2016 16:31
The audio seemed fine?
The only one I saw was some Twitter steam

moli Sep 26, 2016 16:30
bluematt but that video had technical problems, didn't sound very well
bluematt wait, is that the link you posted here once? if so then yes
bluematt nope, didn't know you have a talk there

bitsko Sep 26, 2016 16:29
...pings are running high as the vervor intensifies...

brg444 Sep 26, 2016 16:28
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/54lmfw/bad_faith_stalling_bitcoin_conference_accepts/d8314vg @rogerver is that what you mean when you claim to support healthy censorship-free discussion forums? >Since Blockstream is a terror organisation, CTO means chief terrorism officer. Corallo is just a minion of that CTO.

bluematt Sep 26, 2016 16:21
(like 3 weeks ago in milan, that is, I'm not a time traveller)
@moli did you go back and watch the talk i gave in milan on fibre?

jleg Sep 26, 2016 16:17
Oh your FIBRE submission was rejected ? Have you considered making an outraged post on r/btc ? @bluematt

humanistzone Sep 26, 2016 16:17
Fair point, this targeted toward technical people collaborating and not as much outside observers

bluematt Sep 26, 2016 16:16
still, both I and Andrea, among others, will be co-running a workshop on block propagation
as such, even my FIBRE submission was rejected (though, obv, while I wasnt on the call)
no, generally the commitee decided that block relay tech is not something which the technical audience (to which the event is catered) doesnt already know enough about

moli Sep 26, 2016 16:14
@adam3us : i hope BlueMatt will be speaking there.. He thought compact blocks is so simple and by now everyone knows and understands, he needs to know most of us don't know or understand yet

humanistzone Sep 26, 2016 16:14
A little more than whining , he has donated half a million dollars and started a mining pool to split our community

shinobimonkey Sep 26, 2016 16:14
@adam3us I'd actually like to hear Matt's thought on how Fibre being easily deployable might affect the network topology over time

jleg Sep 26, 2016 16:13
Bitcoin Judah will be the ultimate phase. For the moment he is only whining

alp Sep 26, 2016 16:13
im encouraged by roger coming here, maybe he can do better when hes not in an echo chamber

adam3us Sep 26, 2016 16:12
"bitcoin judas"? (sorry couldnt resist, saw someone else say it somewhere)
(the dunning-kruger works both ways, people iwth limited ability to innovate fighting over speaking slots, and people who coded and co-designed FEC UDP and compact blocks think it's too simple/obvious to bother speaking about)

jleg Sep 26, 2016 16:11
From "Bitcoin Jesus” to “Bitcoin whiner” : the downfall of a lucky early adopter that never really understood Bitcoin. That would be a great title for a book @rogerver

adam3us Sep 26, 2016 16:11
lol i asked matt if he would present on fibre and his response was meh people already know how it works.
compact blocks is already running and so is fibre (UDP version with FEC) so that seems kind of old news and inferior on all metrics.

alp Sep 26, 2016 16:10
what were the other 2?

brg444 Sep 26, 2016 16:10
talk about backward development
basically a poor version of compact blocks
Xthin: A Bloom Filter Based Technique to Improve Block Propagation Across the P2P Network

adam3us Sep 26, 2016 16:08
karma though i dont know whether the review committee would have been aware of that.
coincidentally i noticed (there's a reddit thread where they talk about what things were rejected ) that one of them seems to be a repeat of the paper where peter_r plagiarised gmaxwell's work.

alp Sep 26, 2016 16:06
"you tried to bribe your way in?"
so thats the easiest way to pin back on them

adam3us Sep 26, 2016 16:06
alp yeah that's not the way it works, obviously.
they want negative stories, they dont need help to create them. it makes no difference, so act fairly, ignore the barbs and carry on with making bitcoin great.

alp Sep 26, 2016 16:05
they expect to have a session guaranteed with their "donation"?

brg444 Sep 26, 2016 16:05
right, I guess BU would've twisted the story to paint the organizers in a bad light either way

adam3us Sep 26, 2016 16:05
anyway i would let pindarhk worry about it, he's more than capable to handle a few reddit detractors.
brg444 what could they do reject the sponsorship?

brg444 Sep 26, 2016 16:04
A bit disappointing that the organizers fell for this trap :confused:

adam3us Sep 26, 2016 16:04
jleg i would hope the review committee which includes people from academia would not be influenced by such childish displays as to reciprocate
what happened rogerver :wink: you're slipping down the rankings of positive influencers
i guess the day has come when a wall street firm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Needham_%26_Company is more bullish about bitcoin than early adopter rogerver

jleg Sep 26, 2016 16:02
I remember very well @peter_r in this slack saying BitcoinCore supporters were not welcome to onchainscaling conference because it was for “like-minded” people. And now they don’t understand why their presentations have been rejected ? Heh.

adam3us Sep 26, 2016 15:58
there will typically be more proposals than presentation slots.
i am not privy to the selection criteria, but like any academic publication there is a call for papers, and a review process with multiple intentionally independent people.
(and you get a free attendance ticket which costs $300... so real cost $700?)

alp Sep 26, 2016 15:57
that one is going to be easy to twist back

adam3us Sep 26, 2016 15:56
i guess BU are a bronze sponsor (found their logo)

alp Sep 26, 2016 15:56
lol scaling accepted BU's money, lmao

moli Sep 26, 2016 15:45
smart people do not shit where they eat, simple

aleph0 Sep 26, 2016 15:45
Not surprising they are sponsoring scaling.

shinobimonkey Sep 26, 2016 15:45
"Derpa, discrimination! Censorship! i.e. I didn't get my way!"

aleph0 Sep 26, 2016 15:44
Well deloitte now sells btc in their lobby.

shinobimonkey Sep 26, 2016 15:44
SJW psychosis

moli Sep 26, 2016 15:43
lol they keep digging themselves into the grave

brg444 Sep 26, 2016 15:43
:joy:
sponsoring censorship

jleg Sep 26, 2016 15:42
The social attacks on scalingbitcoin continues "[–]BitcoinGuerrilla 1 point 1h Hey guys, there is a list of sponsors on this page. I want their contact email to be swamped by your outrage. 1/ archive: http://archive.is/pOcpF 2/ locate sponsor contacts. 3/ make sure to make them aware they are sponsoring censorship. I want them to receive more email than anyone can read in a lifetime. It is time to fight back. PS: If you have anything on Matt or any of the organizers, or sponsors, please archive and share. There must be so much shit all over the place that you will smell the think from reddit."

alfas Sep 26, 2016 15:37
doesent matter
oh, i guess he wrote something. didnt catch it

brg444 Sep 26, 2016 15:36
@alfas obvious scammer is obvious

jleg Sep 26, 2016 15:35
Deloitte is a platinium sponsor of scalingbitcoi