12:41	PureQuestion	anyway alex's fearscape shift replacement idea: the same thing but in a cone and it sucks people in
12:42	Shibari	the teleport?
12:43	PureQuestion	er
12:43	PureQuestion	fuck
12:43	PureQuestion	I keep doing that
12:43	PureQuestion	fearscape aura
12:43	Shibari	don't do a cone pulling things in Demonologist already does that and its pretty unique
12:45	PureQuestion	to clarify
12:45	PureQuestion	it's pulling in one tile at a time
12:45	PureQuestion	like unstoppable sun
12:45	PureQuestion	it's like
12:45	PureQuestion	turn yourself into a hell vaccuu,
12:45	PureQuestion	m*
12:47	Shibari	sounds too similar and also weird and not very useful
12:47	PureQuestion	too similar to flame leash?
12:47	PureQuestion	still?
12:48	Shibari	its a lot worse but yeah
12:52	PureQuestion	idk
12:52	PureQuestion	mumblegrumble
12:53	PureQuestion	alex is awful at taking no
12:53	Shibari	shrug, up to you, doesn't matter much to me
12:53	PureQuestion	I thought you wanted the game to be good
12:54	Shibari	hence the much, there are far greater sins than making a bad pull talent
13:01	PureQuestion	shrug
13:01	PureQuestion	"bad" and "good" are also a question of numbers and extra features
13:02	PureQuestion	seeing as it will also do damage
13:02	Shibari	yes you can absolutely make a bizarre, weird, not really good at anything base design into a good one by adding things on top of it that are actually good.  I do not recommend this.
13:05	PureQuestion	._.
13:05	PureQuestion	so is like
13:05	PureQuestion	is irresistible sun bad?
13:05	PureQuestion	I'm trying to figure out the parts of this that are a problem specifically
13:07	Shibari	its good because its doing prodigy level damage on top of it, but this is a cone, why is it a cone
13:07	Shibari	why not an AoE like IS
13:07	Shibari	why make the player keep track of something so weird for a not huge payoff, and why do you want this to have a big payoff?  is it one of the defining talents?
13:08	Shibari	for the most part pulls should be actives, or if they're passive, they should be really generous so they aren't niche.. IE, IS is a circle, no real restrictions, it covers its niche well.  Cones cover it less well.  Why cover it less well?