Frayn Bantam > ok yeah are you still there?
Kitah Ferranti > yeah
Kitah Ferranti > providence escaped btw
Kitah Ferranti > if you purchase my ganking permit i will leave with my dramiel
Frayn Bantam > yeah ik, I had to go afk so I docked
Kitah Ferranti > it costs 200m per day
Frayn Bantam > anyways, as I said earlier, wouldn't you agree what we do brings pvp to many people who otherwise miss out on a huge part of the game?
Kitah Ferranti > no
Kitah Ferranti > if code didnt exist there would still be dingbats who prey on the vulnerable
Kitah Ferranti > you're not filling some void
Frayn Bantam > code was formed to fight miner botting empires
Frayn Bantam > actually
Kitah Ferranti > yeah i know, my 2nd day in the game some code creep harassed me for a mining permit
Kitah Ferranti > but i wasnt mining
Kitah Ferranti > ive never mined
Kitah Ferranti > lol
Frayn Bantam > what were you doing?
Kitah Ferranti > i was trading
Frayn Bantam > mining permits have sort of expanded to other things
Frayn Bantam > were you hauling?
Kitah Ferranti > no
Frayn Bantam > just in station?
Kitah Ferranti > yes
Kitah Ferranti > i convo'd him to be friendly because he had a dramiel
Kitah Ferranti > and i thought that ship was cool
Kitah Ferranti > and instead of being friendly to a newbro asking about his stupid ship
Kitah Ferranti > he tried to extort a mining permit out of me
Frayn Bantam > hmm
Frayn Bantam > who was he?
Kitah Ferranti > i have no idea
Kitah Ferranti > was my second day in game
Kitah Ferranti > some dude that flies a dramiel anyway
Frayn Bantam > code normally doesn't intervene unless you look like you're a botter
Frayn Bantam > or a freighter fleet is running
Kitah Ferranti > theres a reason why code is despised across new eden
Kitah Ferranti > and its not because we're all bitter miners and freighter haulers
Kitah Ferranti > ive never mined and i cant fly a freighter even if i wanted to
Kitah Ferranti > i have never died to code
Frayn Bantam > tbf I'm not even in code, I'm only going by what I know from my fleets with them
Frayn Bantam > and they're usually chill
Kitah Ferranti > you want to do something kinna funny that adds content
Kitah Ferranti > join a hugfleet
Frayn Bantam > the other thing you could do is join a really big sandcastle and come fly with our main alliance out in null
Kitah Ferranti > im a trader, i live in jita
Frayn Bantam > and also, ganking definitely adds content by any stretch of the definition
Frayn Bantam > ok, what does your isk/day look like?
Kitah Ferranti > a couple bil dep on how long i play
Kitah Ferranti > the bigger traders are doing 1+b/ hr
Kitah Ferranti > adding content isnt a reason to do something shitty
Kitah Ferranti > the fact that other people do shitty things isnt an excuse to act shitty yourself
Kitah Ferranti > antigankers are adding content and managing to be nice at the same time
Frayn Bantam > antigankers literally don't add anything
Frayn Bantam > when we want something to die, it dies
Kitah Ferranti > ive saved a few freighters
Kitah Ferranti > in my dram
Kitah Ferranti > and the hsm has killed a couple of the machs
Frayn Bantam > did you ever save it from a fleet of 20 talos+catalysts?
Kitah Ferranti > yes, by getting it out before the cats got there
Frayn Bantam > that's better than literally 100% of the guys I had to deal with
Frayn Bantam > so props to that I guess
Frayn Bantam > btw I just asked for confirmation on this, bc I was pretty sure
Kitah Ferranti > on what
Frayn Bantam > and our market out in null has a universal 20-30% markup over jita prices
Frayn Bantam > just food for thought
Kitah Ferranti > what region is it
Frayn Bantam > <url=showinfo:5//30002902>YA0-XJ</url>
Frayn Bantam > so you can probs guess who I'm with
Kitah Ferranti > im not familiar with deklain
Kitah Ferranti > i mainly supply to npc null
Frayn Bantam > you know who goons are right?
Kitah Ferranti > yeah, i know they have provi but idk what other regions they ahve
Frayn Bantam > provi?
Kitah Ferranti > providence
Frayn Bantam > wrong side
Frayn Bantam > provi is provibloc
Frayn Bantam > goons own deklein and pure blind
Kitah Ferranti > oh
Kitah Ferranti > why have goons chased me in provi then
Frayn Bantam > roamers probs
Kitah Ferranti > was fleets
Kitah Ferranti > caracals
Frayn Bantam > http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/influence.png
Frayn Bantam > this might help
Frayn Bantam > btw that system I linked is the largest non-highsec market in the game
Kitah Ferranti > interesting ty for map
Kitah Ferranti > i thought goons covered more territory
Frayn Bantam > we're allied with p much everyone else around us
Frayn Bantam > here's coalition level
Frayn Bantam > http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/coalitionsov/Coalitioninfluence.png
Kitah Ferranti > ah yeah thats more what i expected
Frayn Bantam > yeah so idk
Kitah Ferranti > why do you want to be a space goon and the enemy of everyone whos not a goon
Kitah Ferranti > you could join HSM and people will actually like you
Frayn Bantam > I joined it because my irl friends are in goons
Kitah Ferranti > its your game, you get to make your own choices
Frayn Bantam > true, and goons are actually a really fun crowd
Frayn Bantam > so idk, if you wanna try it out drop me a line or join KF_Public channel
Frayn Bantam > anyways igtg
Kitah Ferranti > ok cheers