more phase 5 talks

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** By Sister-Sting!cgiirc@B911BB8B.57499B11.1D6B5F76.IP on Tue Mar 22 16:38:24 GMT+07:00 2016
(Asteria) Power is off again
(Asteria) Fucking indonesian 'elecric services'
(Emit) lol it happens
(Asteria) Yep
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(Asteria) And again, really, thanks Emit
(Emit) no worries, im always here if you need to talk
(Asteria) Would keep that in mind
(Emit) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG0oBPtyNb0
(Asteria) Cool
(Emit) a pretty weird looking bunch of doods but cool song
(Asteria) Yep
(Asteria) http://40.media.tumblr.com/1a2c67cc5e871918ea34fd8b65a9b40c/tumblr_nvgbt1FUqy1tm1x8po1_1280.jpg i need to start baking a bunch of this cake and send it to everyone here
(Emit) haha  its not relaly tolerating you if we enjoy it
(Emit) =P
(Asteria) :U
(Asteria) Yea sometimes i get really self conscious here and stopped responding
(Asteria) Just the general 'oh fuck i messed up'
(Emit) lol i dont think ive ever seen one of those moments
(Emit) :P
(Asteria) It's all internal fam
(Emit) well fret not for we judge not!
(Asteria) Danke
(Emit) de nada
(Asteria) Lol
(Asteria) One interesting astrology stuff that i found that's kinda linked to this whole ordeal is chiron
(Asteria) Chiron in astrology is where our deepest wound resides
(KinstonLeo) Did Sting post a drawing a while ago? :u
(Asteria) Maybe
(Asteria) Idk
(KinstonLeo) C:
(KinstonLeo) And Chiron sounds like a vitamin metal
(Asteria) >Wherever Chiron appears in your chart is where you are called upon to heal yourself and give your gift, and so it is associated with a deep sense of purpose.
(Asteria) Chiron is actually a planetoid/comet object between uranus and saturn
(Emit) hmm interesting
(Asteria) Through some cruel fate I happens to have Chiron in my first house, which sucks, a lot
(Asteria) > This shows your deepest wound residing in your sense of self. You may neglect your own personality or self-interests in order to appease others.
(Emit) it has rings, or though tto have rings interesting,
(Asteria) > Helping others help themselves and find their true potential is your strong point. Your weak point is doing the same for yourself. You may have trouble defining yourself and finding meaning in your life.
(Emit) what if to appease others you dont neglect your own personality and self interests
(Emit) like what if to appease me you must do that ^
(Emit) lol
(Emit) use that shit against it self
(Asteria) Lmao
(Emit) try and stop me astrology!
(Asteria) > The lesson you need to learn is self-love and self-respect. Let yourself do what you love and take your own advice as if you were giving this same advice to someone you love.
(Emit) ^^^^^^^^
(Emit) do it
(Asteria) Yep
(Asteria) That resonates with me
(Emit) kinstonleo no  i dont think she posted one, but Lioness told me about your two character ideas, and showed me a partially worked piece
(Asteria) > Build up your personality, don’t limit yourself or feel selfish for it, you must learn to accept yourself as a unique individual with personal power in order to transcend.
(Asteria) Have anxiety issues over self-worth almost all my life, can confirm
(Emit) i do think that is a normal to be honest, at least most people i know struggle with it
(Asteria) > Ironically, other people may find us seemingly forceful personalities, but we can’t feel it. We can’t feel anything clearly when it comes to Self.
(Emit) or have struggled with it
(Asteria) Yeah
(Emit) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts&nohtml5=False
(Emit) auto play sometimes gets to some tinetersting places from youtube
(KinstonLeo) ah
(Asteria) Lol
(KinstonLeo) so she showed you the "Bad Motherfucker" thing?
(Emit) ya
(Emit) trying to find a place to intro it during the event phase arcs
(Emit) where you here when i was explaining all of that?
(Emit) ive said it a few times so it possbile
(Emit) us about to enter phase 2, whith my gang wars event thread
(KinstonLeo) nyet
(Emit) and Tinker are we stll planning on brining litlith cult into this?
(KinstonLeo) i kinda passed out before you were even here
(Emit) no worries
(Emit) ill give you the short version
(Asteria) Yea lemme hop to laptop again now that power's back up again lol
(Emit) we have already fininshed phase 1, with the Euro solo arc and then the Statue invasion thread
(Emit) and are about to move into phase 2
(Emit) with my gang wars event
(Emit) and the ARak and Emit duo thread
(Emit) ending with phase 5
(Emit) so we have phase 2 gangwars
(Emit) 3
(Emit) phase 3 prison take over
(Emit) phase 4, (working title)  The thunderbolts
(Emit) phase 5, (working title) The Tower of Babel
Emit	the last two being known comic book lines/events
17:11	Emit	that ive adapted or am adapting to WOS
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17:11	Tinker	k now i'm back on laptop
17:11	Tinker	hmu fam
17:12	Emit	phase 5 requires a metric fuck ton of collab work
17:12	Emit	and more preplanning than is probably neccesary
17:12	Emit	are you familiar with the tower of babel, DC comic? or the animated movie Doom?
17:13	Emit	in a nutshell, batman (me in this case) has created contingency plans to take down all the heroes should they get out of control or become mindcontrolled/evil
17:13	Emit	(again this is phase 5)
17:13	Emit	part 1
17:13	Emit	my plans get stolen
17:13	Emit	and used against all of us
17:13	Emit	before doing this i have to work with al the heroes to determine their own contingecy, since it is their character
17:13	Emit	some are more obvious than otheres
17:14	Emit	since the mastermind who we will call /him/ (identity a secret for now)
17:14	Emit	has plans for most of us, obviously we wont be killed
17:14	Emit	and instead subdued and prepped to be implemented into his plans
17:14	Emit	like for instance
17:15	Emit	  for example /he/ is aware of Flamberge's alter ego in E-2 ignis
17:15	Emit	thinking if he can break him, and turn him into this ignis, then he'd have a powerful ally
17:15	Emit	that kind of reaosning
17:16	Emit	soo, based on who you wanted to bring in, i need to work with you on a contingecy that will take you out of the fight for part 1
17:16	Emit	part 2 is us all getting free and then taking the fight to them
17:16	Emit	so we all get taken down, but wont stay there for long
17:17	Emit	attendance isn't madatory but ithink this could be a lot of fun
17:17	Emit	okay part 2 is more collab because what it entails is huge
17:17	Emit	the main enemy here, is not just /him/ its all of the congregation
17:18	Emit	ALL of them
17:18	KinstonLeo	dam
17:18	Emit	every villain, all our personal villains
17:18	Emit	so to avoid a cluster fuck of me having to run them, it made more sense to have the characters run their own villains. since the last fight will us be squaring off with them directly
17:18	Emit	for instance lets say the congregation is holding the world hostage with a nuclear missle, and the plan to launch it at NYC
17:19	Emit	so as a team we decide Shamash needs to try and stop this missle due to his immunity to the radiation
17:19	Emit	when he goes to stop the missle he runs into his rival, or nemesis that /he/ decided to put there knowing what we would do
17:19	Emit	making his job a hell of a lot harder
17:20	Emit	now most people dont have arch nemesis's or personal villains
17:20	Emit	some have dozens
17:20	Emit	but since phase 5 is weeks out
17:20	Emit	we have time to develope villains if need be
17:20	Emit	for heroes who dont hav ethem
17:20	Emit	or pull one from somewhere else
17:21	Emit	basically the entire thread/event requires the hero to get taken down at first, which is tricky, hence why im working with everyone one by one to get their plan ironed out
17:22	KinstonLeo	mm
17:22	Emit	since some are obviously more powerful than others, i also dont want to kill them, because thats just fucked up, hence why i come up a reason that they are needed
17:22	Emit	but thats why im talking to you now
17:22	Emit	because you would know best how to take your own characters down
17:23	Emit	and again you can bring in more than one if you want,
17:23	Emit	it just makes my job a little harder but im up for the challenge
17:23	Emit	the thread itself during phase 5 will be moving super slow
17:23	Emit	so i broke it inot two parts
17:23	Emit	part 1, the heroes job (its not really jobbing just masterful planning by the congregation)
17:23	Emit	part 2 we fight back
17:24	Emit	it might get broken down further thats to be decided
17:24	Emit	sooo to continue the train of though around your two new character ideas
17:24	Emit	because lioness wanted to bring them in, maybe not for phase 5 event but use the event chain to at least intro them
17:24	Emit	i figured phase 2 would be best
17:24	Emit	the gang wars are going to be chaotic and basicalyl all out war in the city
17:25	Emit	figuring you two needed a target i surmised that Tinker 's Lilith cult would be the best, due to their outright evil nature
17:25	Emit	but that does require tinker to be okay with some of them gettting killed, since you guys go full out on this type stuff
17:25	Tinker	personally? yes i think it's okay
17:26	Emit	which i plan for there to be a lot of thugs/fodder that gets taken down, bu the idea is supers join these gangs and this war gets realyl out of hand, allowing me to introduce mini events, in the city, where during th ebattle other things are happening
17:26	Emit	such as fire here
17:26	KinstonLeo	>:3
17:26	Emit	collapsing building there
17:26	Emit	hostage situation ect
17:26	Emit	there will be a map and obviously people cant be everywhere at once
17:26	Emit	so it will be a challenging thread, not just a punch your way through
17:26	Emit	deciding who needs to go where and how ect
17:27	Emit	something a bit different than our normal thread
17:27	Emit	but the villains are generally lower tier than normal
17:27	Emit	im using this event to intro several heroes of my own
17:27	KinstonLeo
17:27	Emit	as well as handfulls of villains who act as lieutenants for the gangs
17:28	Emit	lol
17:28	Emit	okay im done spewing information at you
17:28	Emit	any questions
17:28	KinstonLeo	yes
17:29	KinstonLeo	C:< Will the murdered dudes bodies come back even stronger later?
17:29	Emit	not likely, since they will mostly be just fodder and thugs, low tier disposable villains
17:29	Tinker	^
17:29	Emit	now if you kill one of my supers then maybe and probably
17:29	Emit	i dont want to spoil anything but phase 3 is called prison take over
17:30	Emit	so the supers go to jail into the waiting hands of Arteo, the man responsible for phase 1, and destroying the statue of liberty
17:30	Emit	then based on the title you can imagine what happens next
17:30	Emit	however i assure there are several twists involved
17:30	Emit	that will make it exciting regardless of what ive told you
17:31	Emit	all of this being maticulously planned by /him/
17:31	Tinker	mmhmm.
17:31	Emit	and since most of us dont kill, it works
17:31	Emit	and if someoen like jack tries killing a villain (a super) then i might let him kill one or i might just bring in another to save him and will just deal with it organically if it arises
17:32	Tinker	emit, i'm thinking of something, to maybe get lilith into this shit
17:32	Emit	i want to get us away from just being every where at once with phase 2, really putting emphasis on, our location being important for th estory and what shappening
17:32	Emit	like if im over here talking with tinker
17:32	Emit	im not going to be replying to you and bones who are three blocks over and punching someone who is about to stab you
17:33	Emit	which 99% of the heroes on here do, i think its because they dont read or follow eveythign exactly
17:33	Emit	so im creating a map based scenario to see how it works out
17:33	Emit	other than the cult running arouind kidnpaping people?
17:33	Emit	for sacrifices ect?
17:34	Tinker	yeah
17:34	Emit	pm me if you want it secret if not shoot
17:34	Tinker	nah i'll just post it here
17:34	Emit	KinstonLeo what im going for during phase 2 is a literal war, gangs fighting gangs fighting police, civilians getting stuck in the mix and then wild card, evil cult
17:35	Tinker	ok so. Lilith can see the events happening, via her cult leader [The Priest/Priestess - this thing is still under work]
17:35	Emit	k
17:35	KinstonLeo	mm
17:35	KinstonLeo	so uh
17:35	KinstonLeo	Got a contigency for Mix? :^)
17:35	Emit	hmm
17:36	Tinker	And she thinks that this is the perfect moment to start her advances in Earth, getting as many minds as she can. Like an 'all you can eat buffet' but with minds
17:36	KinstonLeo	cause in-universe she'll be kinda out of things
17:36	KinstonLeo	but then pop back in
17:36	Emit	then the idea would be to destabilize her mentally and force her powers to act even more erratically
17:37	Emit	since she isn't really all tha tin control id work on that and try and make it worse
17:37	Tinker	The 2nd phase, in the eyes of Lilith, is not 'sacrifice' - it's merely her attempt to get as many information as she could.
17:37	Emit	which could back fire, on them so it might need to be reworked a bit
17:37	Emit	ive alrady got a few people in nullifiers and i dont want to reuse contingecies for everyone
17:37	Emit	hmm i see tinker
17:38	Emit	but would that require the cult to even be involved?
17:38	Emit	couldn't they just watch if thats what they wanted?
17:38	Emit	lets see, kinston whats mix's power set?
17:38	Tinker	well there will be some low level cult members, the lowest of the pack who drags people to their temple
17:39	Emit	right i wasn't thinking the high level guys would be involved
17:39	Emit	but go on
17:39	KinstonLeo	elemental mixture of any elements she knows of or are available
17:39	Emit	how does she teleport around ?
17:39	Tinker	Lilith, and by extension the highest of the cult members would just watch and does their 'ritual'
17:39	Emit	elements as in literal elements?
17:40	Emit	the ritual to summon her? using the sacrifices captured from the gang wars?
17:40	KinstonLeo	by combing the odd elements of magnetic forces and space-time
17:41	Emit	so not elements literally
17:41	KinstonLeo	her powers on power-listing get kinda odd
17:41	KinstonLeo	Yus
17:41	Emit	like carbon ect
17:41	KinstonLeo	mm
17:41	KinstonLeo	and also things like quantum elements so she could do crazy stuff
17:41	Tinker	The 'ritual' to suck their minds out. As I said, her goal is to gain information.
17:41	KinstonLeo	like go to an alternate universe or self-transcend herself so she's automatically more powerful
17:41	Emit	right so the sacrifices are still just that, they just have an extra compent to them and an endgame
17:42	Emit	riiight, okay so lets see, if you remove her from the elements she needs to mix then she can be stuck doing mundane things?
17:42	Emit	like if she was submerged in a room devoid of any of that, she couldn't relaly get crazy powerful?
17:43	KinstonLeo	well yeah
17:43	Emit	or just lock her in a temporal rift that dumps here in some alternate universe, filled with a bunch of douchey dudes
17:43	Emit	so she feels compeelled to stay there and fight them
17:43	KinstonLeo	ooh jesus that'll take all of her time
17:44	Emit	some super patriachry
17:44	KinstonLeo	:u
17:44	Emit	where all women are enslaved
17:44	Tinker	>Mix is stuck in a world where meninsm is a real thing
17:44	Emit	an AU
17:44	KinstonLeo	can you say
17:44	Emit	<-- i feel like im getting better with this
17:44	KinstonLeo	FEMOLUTION!
17:44	Emit	haha exactly
17:44	Emit	so that takes up most of her time
17:44	Emit	and if you want
17:45	Emit	you can use that idea for a solo arc and take up the entirety of phase 5, part 1 and 2
17:45	Emit	ORRRRR
17:45	Emit	come back during part 2 and fight in the fight agsinst th econgregation
17:45	Emit	depending on how long you think that would take
17:45	KinstonLeo	mm
17:45	Emit	getting you there would be the hardest part and there are defintiely the right people to do it
17:45	Emit	straighter the speedster picks you up from no where and a portal is opening behind you, adn you get thrown in
17:46	Emit	portal opening and controlled by /him/
17:46	Emit	sending you where he know syou wont willingly leave any time soon
17:46	Emit	  /he/ is supposed to be  major dick, he know severything about us
17:46	Emit	our likes dislikes
17:47	Emit	our identities
17:47	Emit	so for some he's going to exploit that
17:47	KinstonLeo	ooh dang
17:47	Tinker	oh man
17:47	KinstonLeo	well, y'know
17:47	Emit	and others its more simple, and even easier to take them down
17:47	KinstonLeo	kinston will just try to watch
17:47	Emit	its a world threatening event, if we dont stop them then the congregation will control the world
17:48	Emit	destroying a shit ton of it in a display of power first
17:48	Emit	sending the world straight into the 2300 timeline, where the world is run by the corrupt and powerful, the paradigm is outlawed and on the run
17:48	Emit	and evil permeates the world
17:49	Emit	so most people who might normally watch might feel compelled to join in the fight or join the congregation
17:49	Emit	depending on the character
17:49	Emit	to say i haven't been planning this for a long while would be a lie
17:49	Tinker	yep
17:49	Emit	its why i started talking about the 2300 future time line to begin with
17:49	Emit	that and Bolt and Emit were there
17:50	Emit	but the setting needed to have a certain feel to it
17:50	Emit	like looking into the future where we failed
17:50	Tinker	and man i'd love to keep Lilith a separate entity, but then i can't get her to do what i wanna do
17:50	Emit	what do you mena?
17:50	Emit	mean*
17:50	Tinker	She's not gonna join congregation, nor fight with the heroes
17:51	Tinker	but she's gonna be a bad guy
17:51	Emit	she's going to try and capitalize on whats going on here
17:51	Emit	makes more sense for her
17:51	Tinker	exactly.
17:51	Tinker	Mind Buffet~
17:51	Emit	without telling everyone what happens to lock her away, she can always get out later for future events
17:51	Emit	like the cult grows in power to such a level they find a way to release her
17:51	Emit	or hell, even tricks astrologer into doing it
17:52	Emit	via dream manipulation making her think shes doing the right thing and stopping them from letting her out
17:52	Emit	but in reality is doing the very thing shes trying to stop
17:52	KinstonLeo	a mind is a terrible thing to
17:52		KinstonLeo makes slurping sound
17:52	Emit	lol
17:52	Tinker	lol
17:52	Tinker	Yes, I can find a way to work with that.
17:52	KinstonLeo	basically lilith rite?
17:52	Tinker	Yes
17:52	Emit	lol
17:52	Tinker	Literally Lilith.
17:53	Emit	so that intro's lilith for you, and keeps her usable
17:53	Emit	following everything we have planned
17:53	Emit	and sets several things up for th efuture
17:53	Emit	i do have  apotential phase 6/7 planned
17:53	Tinker	oh my.
17:53	Emit	i have several events that dont fit into this particular phase arcs
17:53	Emit	but i think ive come up with a way to use them
17:54	Emit	ill deal with that later, this phase 5 is goign to be the masterpiece however
17:54	Emit	literally us vs the entire congregation
17:54	Emit	and possbily a lot of fallout for Emit since they were his plans
17:54	Tinker	the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny
17:54		Emit nods
17:54	Tinker	good versus evil
17:55	Tinker	light versus dark
17:55	Tinker	oh boy this is gonna be LIT
17:55	Emit	Emit vs the architect
17:55	Emit	i also want people to feel free to tell me if there is something they want to do in these arcs so i can help them do it
17:55	Emit	such as lilith for tinker
17:56	Emit	im doing something ismilar for a few people
17:56	Emit	tying everything together and introducing a lot of stuff
17:56	Emit	and since you will all be controlling your own villain you get to decide their fate, whether that is death or escape or whatever really
17:57	Emit	and im only setting up pt 1 right now, since i need the contingencies outlined before i can figure out who gets out first and how we rescue the rest
17:57	Emit	if you have any ideas or imput, or even critiques im all ears and eager to hear them
17:58	Emit	i want everyone to get everything they want out of this
17:58	Emit	since its for all of us
17:58	Emit	there will be a MAJOR plot point reveal for Emit and /him/ at the end of phase 5
17:58	Tinker	i'm writing an idea.
17:58	Emit	so i want everyone else the chance to do the same
17:59	Emit	not trying to use you guys to just jerk me off
17:59	Emit	and i want the challenge of making things fit
17:59	Emit	like i really like what we are doing with liliths' cult because it increases whats going on during phase 2
17:59	Emit	and does some other stuff, which might surprise quite a few people
18:00	Emit	i want them to have impact so if you know try not to spoil it
18:00	Tinker	Lilith is gonna be the capitalist.
18:00	Emit	and i dont even know how much you know tinker
18:00	Emit	but its more than most based on the plan
18:01	Emit	at least as far as that part is concerned
18:01	Emit	there is hopefully much more you dont know about the plans
18:01	Tinker	fam i gotta look through my sea of logs and start compiling them shits
18:01	Tinker	there's a good chance that I forgot a lot of your plot points tbh
18:01	Tinker	so you good
18:01	Emit	i assure you i haven't
18:02	Emit	im surprise at how much information my brain is retaining
18:02	Emit	i cant stop thinking about all of this
18:02	Emit	its what i go to bed thinking about, and its what i wake up and think about
18:03	Tinker	i love the dedication
18:03	Tinker	you are a capricorn-dominant person
18:03	Tinker	it truly shines on you
18:03	Tinker	i salute you man
18:04	Emit	hehe
18:04	Emit	idk what that means but thank you
18:08	Emit	so kinston what do you think, we took care of mix, (kinda) and you can decide when/where you want to bring her back
18:08	Emit	and kinston you said would try and sit out, but what if the city he lives in is threatened with a nuclear strike?
18:08	Emit	also mor eimportantly are you okay with that contingecy planned for Mix?
18:08	Emit	if so ill write it down
18:09	Emit	KinstonLeo
18:14	KinstonLeo	http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1460270025469.webm
18:14	KinstonLeo	Hmm...
18:14	KinstonLeo	if that's the case then he'll have to get involved in some fashion with his mum probs joinin' in
18:15	Emit	>satan
18:15	Emit	rofl
18:15	Emit	lol that got me
18:15	Emit	wan't expecting that
18:15	Emit	okay cool i have an idea then that you two would be perfect for!
18:16	Emit	so check it, i told you about the hypottheical missle launch
18:16	Emit	well thats not hypottheical
18:16	Emit	thats happenign
18:16	Emit	and they are holding the world hostage via nuclear armageddon
18:16	Emit	so when they start launching that shit
18:16	Emit	you can have them cameo by stopping them using their mechs ect
18:17	Emit	its a small but realistic part for them to play
18:17	Emit	like say all the heroes are freaking out because we know we cant stop all the missles
18:17	Emit	then BOOM
18:17	Emit	out of no where you come onto the coms taking out some more of the missles
18:17	Emit	like we got your back fam
18:17	Emit	obviously better dialog than that
18:17	Emit	but you get the idea
18:17	Emit	what do you think?
18:17	KinstonLeo
18:17	KinstonLeo	sounds great
18:18	KinstonLeo	>Delphine actually feels semi-proud for her son again
18:20	KinstonLeo	http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1460275162282.webm
18:21	Emit	a vampire?
18:21	Emit	lol thats not how that works, he'd need the star of david but lol anyway
18:25	KinstonLeo	heh
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18:44	Tinker	brb
18:44	Emit	k
18:46	Tinker	and back - had to use the bathroom
18:47	Emit	wb
18:47	Emit	you know i dont like honey nut cherrioes anywhere near as much as i used to
18:47	Emit	im only eating them because ibought th ebox and wont waste it
18:47	Emit	but ugh...
18:47	Emit	too sweet for me
18:47	Tinker	yea
18:48	Tinker	taste changes
18:48	Emit	i wish i had gotten regular cherrios now
18:53	Emit	gnight away Jeroen-
18:53	Emit	hehehe
18:53	Tinker	NIght

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