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- [19:50] mordrude: do you mind if I touch up some of the airbrushing on the head, or would you rather I leave it as is?
- [19:51] Cani: What did you have in mind?
- [19:51] mordrude: Just a little better transitions between colors, and making the silver eye markings more noticeable
- [19:51] mordrude: they're kind of faint right now, and don't pop like they should
- [19:51] Cani: Sounds good
- [19:51] mordrude: ok, will do!
- [19:52] mordrude: bbl, work
- [19:52] Cani: Actually
- [19:52] Cani: Do you think you could expand some of the gray on the face?
- [19:53] Cani: Or would that be too much of a change?
- [19:54] Cani: Like, bringing the gray up to meet the orange and having it extend out to the nose
- [19:55] Cani: http://ft.trillian.im/11540ac5dd1e6944b8c4d551175498898550e0af/6cKswmyWM1uaFF3YMtcIgjRyyOH4y.png
- [19:56] Cani: Sort of like this, but not with the half tongue
- [19:59] mordrude: yeah, I could do that
- [19:59] mordrude: what about the black, do you want me to extend that too?
- [19:59] Cani: I'm finally settling down on how I want Cani's markings
- [19:59] Cani: If you could, that would be amazing <3
- [20:00] mordrude: sure thing, do you want me to isolate those eyebrow markings like this pic?
- [20:00] Cani: Yes please! ^^
- [20:01] mordrude: ok, I'll match it to this pic as best I can
- [20:01] Cani: You've made me a very happy Cani.
- [20:01] mordrude: it's the least i can do for you, I've been such a pain
- [20:03] Cani: Also, the black under the orange eye markings are drawn-in eyebrows, not actual color
- [20:03] Cani: So ignore those ^^;
- [20:05] Cani: Here it is with those eyebrows removed
- [20:05] Cani: http://ft.trillian.im/11540ac5dd1e6944b8c4d551175498898550e0af/6cKtayq2ZTAICP7DT1fiNDVGCmVFC.png
- [20:06] mordrude: ok, that helpsd!
- [20:07] Cani: And the far side of the face is old, use the features on the closer side
- [20:07] Cani: You can probably tell it's not quite even XD
- [20:07] Cani: But yeah, I've finally settled on a facial design I really like
- [20:08] Cani: I have a ref sheet being made that's actually going to be done tonight that'll look like this
- [20:08] mordrude: excellent, I like the looks of this better anyway
- [20:09] Cani: I'm extremely excite.
- [20:09] Cani: <33
- [20:09] mordrude: I'm going to gradient the transition from the black on the head to the muzzle though, instead of the tight stop there
- [20:09] mordrude: since it's got the gradient at the tip of the nose too
- [20:09] Cani: Ooh, that'll give a cool effect
- [20:09] mordrude: yeah, sefinitely
- [20:10] mordrude: d*
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- [01:11] mordrude: Hey, when you get back on I need to talk to you, it's very important.
- [01:44] mordrude: Screw it, I'll just leave it as a message. Your head has vanished. We have systematically searched the entire house and workshop twice, and it's nowhere to be found. There is nowhere else it could be, someone has taken it from my premises. There are only three people in the state of WA that know where I am, one is out of the state, one I haven't spoken to in months, and one is my best friend. No one else knows what I have here or has the means to come take things. That said, we are going to look once more through every single place in the house tomorrow, but realistically I don't have high hopes of finding it. We are going to need to talk about what to do in the event it is not found.
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- [07:01] Cani: ... Well fuck.
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- [08:26] Cani: Do you have it packed up in a box somewhere?
- [08:31] Cani: Or in the car for some strange reason?
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- [08:40] Cani: Anyway, I'll be at work all day, then leaving for Portland after I'm off, so I'll be a little hard to get a hold of today. AT&T stopped mobile IMs for non-smartphones like cunts, so I'll only have texts while I'm at work.
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- [10:21] mordrude: no, I have literally looked in the truck and in every single box already
- [10:22] mordrude: I'm really at a loss, I can't comprehend why someone would come take just that, he sat next to my V1 head the whole time
- [10:22] Cani: mike was wondering if you might have sent hazzard his head by accident.
- [10:22] mordrude: and my father's got a fuckton of tools out there that are worth more
- [10:22] mordrude: hazard's head is in my living room
- [10:23] mordrude: so there's no chance of that either, he's been sent nothing whatsoever
- [10:23] Cani: have you looked under your bed and the couch? Wondering if the dogs got to it. ^^; Luna is damn near impossible to stop when it comes to her taking stuff and hiding it under the coach
- [10:23] Cani: *couch
- [10:24] mordrude: the dogs are crated and have no access to anything in the house
- [10:24] mordrude: they're not allowed anywhere I havee work stuff
- [10:25] Cani: did it get buried under fur? Like you had it on a bench and moved some fur onto it with out thinking about it.
- [10:25] mordrude: I am about 99.5% sure I've seen it as late as two weeks ago when I had the flood, I had him put on the shelf next to my furs, and that whole shelf got evacuated inside
- [10:25] mordrude: I have shaken out every single fur, both everything brought in and what's out in the shop, so that's been ruled out
- [10:26] mordrude: nothing from the shop has been thrown away since the flood either, so there's no chance of accidentally trashing it
- [10:27] mordrude: kit and I are going to do a last, comprehensive search when he gets home at 6ish tonight
- [10:27] Cani: did it get put into a box that it shouldn't have been? Like a box of xmas toppers and put away in the cellar.
- [10:27] mordrude: that way we can verify each other has looked absolutely everywhere
- [10:27] Cani: ok.
- [10:27] mordrude: I have checked every single box too
- [10:27] Cani: but yeah. It has to be there if you've seen it lately and it's the only thing gone
- [10:28] mordrude: my fur scraps boxes, my taxidermy box, hell I've checked my kitchen, bathroom and laundry room
- [10:28] mordrude: I honestly cannot comprehend why it wouldn't be unless someone specifically came to get only that
- [10:29] mordrude: I still had some NFT furs outside, and he had been right next to my V1 head, I couldn't see someone stealing just that and not taking the other stuff too
- [10:30] mordrude: and again, the only people who know my address and also know I make suits are you guys, my other friend in OR who has the snow leopard, my best friend up here, and some other guy we don't talk to anymore, so I highly doubt anyone would just randomly take that instead of the tools
- [10:31] mordrude: not many average people would know it even has value, let alone take it when there's easily sellable tools 5ft away
- [10:31] Cani: that's why it has to be there. No one could have taken it.
- [10:32] Cani: could it have been moved to like the top shelf up in the workshop by some whim?
- [10:32] mordrude: I really hope I just put it somewhere weird trying to keep it safe after the water
- [10:32] Cani: that's the most likely spot then.
- [10:32] mordrude: we've looked on every shelf, in every cubby, in every box, bin, and drawer
- [10:33] mordrude: the bitch of it all is evacuating that shelf was done by both me and Kit, and in a panic, so neither of us know what happened after that point
- [10:34] Cani: maybe looking through all that agian might have it turn up. ^^; I've looked in a box twice before and on the third time what I was looking for was right there in front of my face.
- [10:34] Cani: .....
- [10:34] mordrude: by the way, for a touch of good news, the tail is attached to the bodysuit and the snaps are on it
- [10:34] Cani: that's good.
- [10:34] Cani: I'll relay that
- [10:34] mordrude: that's my last ditch hope, that if we bothlook 4 eyes will be better than two
- [10:35] Cani: yeah. Maybe have you check something then have him check it again. That way if it's missed by you then he might see it
- [10:35] mordrude: that's the plan, for every single square inch of the house
- [10:35] mordrude: and the shop*
- [10:35] mordrude: and if we don't find it, I'm going to make a police report
- [10:36] Cani: ok. Give me a few to relay most of that to mike.
- [10:37] mordrude: ok, I know you're texting and that's a wall of text x.x
- [10:37] Cani: I know he'll look here again when he gets home from work.
- [10:37] Cani: yeah...^^; and my phone sucks horrifically when I have to text a ton on it
- [10:37] mordrude: I'm sorry to fuck up your guys's morning, but I wanted to keep you in the loop
- [10:37] Cani: not a prob and thank you
- [10:37] Cani: we're much rather be in the loop then in the dark again
- [10:37] mordrude: We'll figure something out no mater what
- [10:38] mordrude: and I mean, you guys know it's not that I didn't make it, you all have held it and worn it
- [10:41] Cani: We know you made it.
- [10:43] Cani: anyway, mike should be back around 5 at the latest.
- [10:44] mordrude: I'll be here, and as soon as kit gets home we're going to go to work searching the entire house again, luckily it's not a huge place so it shouldn't take but two or three hours to really check every box, crack, and crevice
- [10:45] Cani: ok, can you text him? We'll be out and about during that time.
- [10:46] Cani: was the flood two weeks ago?
- [10:46] Cani: mike's wondering
- [10:47] Cani: since he didn't hear anything about it. At least that he can remember at the moment.
- [10:49] mordrude: it was on the 21st of November, tl;dr on the ground edge of the back wall behind the little wooden drawers there was a void in the wall that let water in, so all the low-lying areas on that side of the shop took on about an inch of water
- [10:50] mordrude: I don't leave shit on the floor, so nothing really got damaged, but as a precaution I took everything from that side of the workshop into the house (or so I thought) to make absolutely sure it was safe
- [10:52] mordrude: I was worried it was going to get worse than it was, but we shop-vac'd up the water and temporarily filled the void up so the entry of water was essentially stopped
- [10:57] Cani: wonder if it got left behind when everything else got moved.
- [10:58] Cani: or moved to a different spot
- [10:59] mordrude: there was nothing at all on that shelf with the sole exception of a polyfil box, that has been triple checked, so it definitely wasn't left there, but moved to a different spot is a possibility, though both myself and kitfox have checked everywhere that could possibly fit him to no avail
- [11:00] mordrude: it's really surreal, it makes no sense at all and doesn't seem possible
- [11:02] Cani: yeah. I don't know what to tell you other then it's there somewhere. Just in a spot that you havent looked yet
- [11:03] mordrude: I really hope against hope we've overlooked something, and we'll find him hiding this evening, but it's not like I'm looking for something small like a handpaw, there's really only so many places it could fit in
- [11:04] Cani: you could be surprised. I've been able to get stuff in spots most would think it couldn't fit
- [11:04] mordrude: I really hope I am surprised
- [11:05] mordrude: also, for the record, there is no 'under the bed', 'under or behind the couch', the bed is flat on the floor and so are the couches, which are also flat against the wall
- [11:05] Cani: ok. ^^; just thought to suggest that.
- [11:07] mordrude: we've been really thorough, that's why I'm so freaked about this
- [11:08] mordrude: I looked twice yesterday, once frantically because holy shit wtf where could it possibly be, then once systematically making sure to check every single possible place, then when kit got home he rechecked everything too
- [11:10] mordrude: this evening, we are going to break down and/or empty every box, shelf, drawer, etc and absoultely rule out every place in the house, and if we can't find him we're filing a police report
- [11:11] mordrude: when I say house, I mean workshop too obviously
- [11:12] Cani: alright and I know ^^. You'll find it sooner or later.
- [11:12] Cani: hopefully sooner though ^^;
- [11:15] mordrude: yeah, I went looking for it last night to touch up the airbrushing and finish the inside parts ;__; couldn't have been worse timing
- [11:16] mordrude: seriously, I need to glue the fur down on the feet, add the claws on the feet, trim the transition on the bodysuit from the long grey to the short grey, and do those touchups to the head then I'm done, if I could have found him right away I could have been done with him
- [11:18] Cani: we know. ^^; seems like mike's suit is cursed or something to not be done.
- [11:20] mordrude: I thought of a few options as to what to do in the event we cannot find it, none of them are ideal for anyone but really it's out of my hands if it's nowhere here
- [11:25] mordrude: first, and least desirable on my part, is I could give a full refund, but it would have to be done in installments because I simply do not have the funds to do it all at once, second, and also not very good for anyone, I could finish up the bodysuit and feet and send them along, plus a $300 refund for the head, third, I could redo the head, but I am sort of really torn on this one because 1. it'd be a miracle to get it done by the 15th, 2. I undercharged by $850 for his suit at my current prices already, 3. That head would be $800 today, so I'd be taking over $1600 loss on this project and I'm not entirely certain I'm willing to do that
- [11:26] Cani: it's up to mike on what he would like to do.
- [11:26] Cani: hopefully that head is there and found.
- [11:26] mordrude: right, and I'm totally open if he has another suggestion on what he'd like to do too, this is just what I could come up with last night after not finding it anywhere
- [11:27] mordrude: sever is going to come help us look too, so we'll have three sets of eyes and hands looking for redundancy
- [11:27] mordrude: sevet*
- [11:30] mordrude: I really hope we just overlooked somewhere and find him sitting pretty, but I can't say I have much faith that'll happen at this point
- [11:30] Cani: cool. havent' heard from him in awhile. Tell him thanks for helping for us ^^
- [11:31] Cani: never know and let's hope it's sitting front of you the whole and no one saw it
- [11:31] mordrude: yeah, miracles have happened before, let'
- [11:31] mordrude: s hope one happens now
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- [13:10] mordrude: one last thing, can I ask that this isn't made public until I can do this search tonight and get the police report filed? Just on the off chance I am an idiot and overlooked it
- [13:13] Cani: I'm home now, and alright.
- [13:13] mordrude: you come hom eearly?
- [13:13] Cani: I just hope you can find it, because it's going to suck for both of us if it's gone somehow
- [13:13] mordrude: so, read up, I had a lengthy conversation with Kat
- [13:13] Cani: I finished
- [13:14] mordrude: yeah, it really is going to suck for me in a bad way
- [13:14] Cani: And yeah, I was able to come home early, we had another guy coming in and it slowed down some
- [13:14] mordrude: sevet's going to come help look with us, so three sets of eyes will rule out any chance of missing it
- [13:17] Cani: With it being ONLY my head missing, it makes no sense at all that someone would have come and taken it
- [13:17] Cani: This is a really weird situation.
- [13:18] mordrude: that's what's getting me, there's a couple hundred dollars worth of fur out there too, plus my first head and bases and molds and that's just the furry shit
- [13:18] Cani: Plus all the tools and everything
- [13:18] mordrude: yeah, so this is a fucked situation
- [13:18] Cani: Who knows, it might end up in some cupboard or something
- [13:19] Cani: You should see some of the shit I've put in the fridge by mistake XD
- [13:19] mordrude: I've even checked the bathroom and kitchen
- [13:19] mordrude: but we're going to hit every inch, cupboards, closets, boxes, freezer, everywhere
- [13:19] Cani: Have you checked outside, around the house, in case it fell or something?
- [13:20] mordrude: we would have seen it, if it got moved during the flood there's only one path to the house
- [13:20] mordrude: and I walk it multiple times every day
- [13:20] Cani: No chance of it rolling downhill?
- [13:20] mordrude: it would have rolled down the path I take
- [13:21] mordrude: we're going to look anyways though, because I want to be totally positive before I involve the police
- [13:21] Cani: Yeah
- [13:21] Cani: Rule out every other possibility
- [13:21] mordrude: this will be grand theft, so I imagine they'll give a shit
- [13:22] Cani: Yeah
- [13:23] mordrude: out of my curiosity and for planning purposes, what do you think you'd want to do should I not find it
- [13:24] mordrude: I'm open to suggestions, but the three I've thought of are really the only fair things I can think of
- [13:25] Cani: Ideally, I'd hope you'd be able to make a replacement, but obviously not within a week.
- [13:25] Cani: Since you guys are pretty financially strapped, refunding would be quite a strain.
- [13:26] mordrude: I'm going to say this, and please don't take offense but if I redo that head out of pocket I'll essentially be in the hole $1600+ on this project and I'm not entirely sure I'd be willing to do that
- [13:26] Cani: If making another head isn't possible, then my second option would be taking everything except the head and the partial refund to re-commission the head from someone else
- [13:26] Cani: Honestly, you should have had it done a long time ago...
- [13:26] mordrude: I've thought of two options, neither of which I think you'll like
- [13:28] mordrude: I could redo it out of pocket, on the contingency you let the delays go completely and not dock me on any reviews or what-not, or I could do it for $300, and still be out a significant amount of time and materials but not be totally in the hole on this
- [13:28] Cani: In a strict business sense, I've paid in full and done everything on my end, and the ball was dropped on your end, so in essence you're responsible for the loss.
- [13:29] mordrude: something being stolen =/= a ball dropped on my end
- [13:29] mordrude: that's way beyond anything I have control over
- [13:29] Cani: But anyway, with the upgrades and your willingness to work things out, I'm not going to be leaving negative reviews.
- [13:30] mordrude: it's not like the head wasn't done, you held it and wore it and know it's not me trying to scam you
- [13:30] mordrude: it only needed some upgrading to make it up to spec for my currrent quality
- [13:32] mordrude: all in all this is a disaster for my business
- [13:33] mordrude: let's just hope we find it tonight, and all of this was just needless worrying
- [13:33] Cani: I hope so
- [13:34] mordrude: Kit and sevet will be here at 7pm, and we'll work until everythign's been triple checked
- [13:34] mordrude: then there will be no chance of overlooking it
- [13:35] Cani: And make sure to take it slow and not think "I've already looked there," because I've overlooked things like that ALL the time
- [13:36] mordrude: we're hitting every inch, because sevet hasn't looked anywhere yet
- [13:37] mordrude: we're going to let him essentially lead the search, because that way we can't fall into that trap
- [13:37] Cani: Anyway, I need a shower, so I'll brb
- [13:37] mordrude: k
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- [00:00] Cani: Any luck?
- [00:15] mordrude: nope
- [00:15] mordrude: I'll be filing the police report first thing in the morning
- [00:19] Cani: Well shit...
- [00:19] mordrude: there's several felonies if they find who did this
- [00:21] mordrude: I'll be posting notices on FA, DA, Weasyl, LJ, Rainfurrest staff will be informed, if that head is seen the cops will be involved
- [00:22] mordrude: I'm going to say that if it's returned to me I won't ask any questions, but if it isn't, it won't be able to be seen in the fandom ever again
- [00:25] Cani: If it is well and truly lost for good, if you can make a replacement, I won't hold anything against you, because it'll show that you're doing your best to solve problems.
- [00:25] mordrude: I'm going to file the report and give it some time to see if it turns up
- [00:25] Cani: That's the most reasonable thing for now.
- [00:26] mordrude: I'm going to check the bowling meet personally, and monitor the auction sites
- [00:26] mordrude: I think, if it's not seen or returned at the end of FC, it's a lost cause
- [00:26] Cani: Yeah.
- [00:27] Cani: It's just fucking bizzare that someone would swipe my head and nothing else o.o
- [00:27] mordrude: no kidding, it's nonsensical almost
- [00:27] Cani: Unless it's just seriously THAT good looking >.>
- [00:28] mordrude: even so, I can't see why they wouldn't take mine too, it was right there with yours
- [00:28] Cani: Yeah
- [00:30] mordrude: this is fucking a disaster for my business, I have to pretty much write off the workshop as unusable now
- [00:32] mordrude: I just hope the police will investigate some, though I don't think they're going to bother
- [00:33] Cani: Who knows, maybe since pot's legal now, it'll free up some resources.
- [00:34] mordrude: they didn't enforce it much before anyways
- [00:34] Cani: True lol
- [00:34] Cani: Anyway
- [00:34] Cani: I need sleep, it's been a very long day.
- [00:34] mordrude: ok, keep your eyes peeled for it too
- [00:34] mordrude: the more eyes I've got on this the better off our chances are
- [00:34] Cani: I already poked around on Craigslist
- [00:35] Cani: Good night
- [00:35] mordrude: night
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- [14:13] Cani: ...
- [14:13] Cani: Wow, just wow.
- [14:13] Cani: Ignore the fucktards on your journal, like Shimmeron and them. They're part of Cuntface's brood.
- [14:15] Cani: *submission, not journal.
- [14:15] Cani: Shimmeron has been badmouthing me ever since the drama crap last year.
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- [16:17] Cani: Also, I really hope you're not taking any stock in the accusations that I came up and took the head. It makes absolutely zero sense for me to go and drive 5 hours away, spending $50 in gas, to take an unfinished head, when the entire suit was nearly finished.
- [16:42] Cani: Furthermore, the only person that I know other than my wife that knows where you live is Maggie, and she was never given the address.
- [16:44] Cani: I only wrote down your address in one place, in a notebook that serves as my fuel log and navigation book, and that's right here with me, and I have not given your information to anyone. If asked where you are, I have simply said "the Seattle area."
- [16:44] Cani: You've mentioned before that you've had problems with trespassers going through your yard, so if anyone stole it, that's likely how it happened.
- [16:45] mordrude: I highly doubt that, cani
- [16:45] mordrude: they would have stolen the tools that blocked the way to get to the head
- [16:45] Cani: I dunno, this whole thing doesn't make any sense.
- [16:45] mordrude: well, it's in the police's hands at this point
- [16:46] Cani: People I know are basically telling me that you're scamming me and that I need to take you to small claims, but with how close it was to being done, I'm not inclined to think you're trying to pull something.
- [16:48] Cani: Everything has been quite positive up to this point, and I'd hate for ill will to set in.
- [16:49] mordrude: how could I even be scamming you, you know full well it had been made
- [16:49] Cani: I know.
- [16:49] Cani: That's what I keep telling them.
- [16:50] mordrude: besides, I have put this out far and wide, it would be career suicide for me to do that intentionally if I knew I was scamming you
- [16:51] Cani: Pretty much.
- [16:51] mordrude: not to mention involving the police and my legal situation
- [16:51] Cani: Ugh. It's just a huge button of mine for people to accuse me of shit. Seeing what Shim posted set me off.
- [16:52] mordrude: well, I've told the police the situation in full, and that only a select few people have my address here, so they will be investigsating
- [16:53] Cani: ...
- [16:53] Cani: Damnit, deja vu.
- [16:53] Cani: Wasn't there something else before about something being stolen from your place?
- [16:53] Cani: Or maybe I'm thinking of the trespasser thing.
- [16:55] mordrude: my father misplaced a ladder, but other than that we've had no more trespasser issues since that one time
- [16:55] Cani: *shurgs* Anyway, we should assume that the head is a loss, since it's being put out there now, it's likely to be discarded.
- [16:55] Cani: That's assuming someone in the fandom took it.
- [16:55] mordrude: I couldn't see some random person taking it, given the circumstances
- [16:55] Cani: If it was some kid that took it because it looks cool, it may turn up locally, but who knows.
- [16:56] Cani: So that leads to the question, what do we do from here?
- [16:57] mordrude: we wait for the police to do their work
- [16:59] Cani: Did they give an estimated timeframe at all?
- [16:59] mordrude: nope
- [17:00] mordrude: I said last night I'm not taking any action until after FC, to give it a chance to turn up
- [17:00] Cani: Alright.
- [17:01] mordrude: That said, if it hasn't turned up by the bowling meet, I'll start gathering funds for a refund
- [17:03] Cani: If we're going to have to go with the refund option, the partial refund for the missing head and sending me the rest of the suit would be the best option.
- [17:03] mordrude: I don't think I am going to go that route
- [17:04] Cani: So you're saying a full refund?
- [17:04] mordrude: yes
- [17:04] Cani: With all that wasted effort and materials?
- [17:04] Cani: And advertising my design?
- [17:04] mordrude: materials and effort have already been lost
- [17:04] mordrude: I advertized my work, not your design
- [17:04] Cani: What, did you destroy the rest of the suit or something?
- [17:05] mordrude: are you actually accusing me here?
- [17:05] Cani: No, I'm making a point.
- [17:05] mordrude: please think this through carefully
- [17:05] Cani: If you still have the rest of the suit, then it's not a waste.
- [17:05] Cani: I can re-commission a head, and still make use of everything else.
- [17:05] mordrude: you wouldn't be able to get a replacement head either way
- [17:05] mordrude: the furs I used are not available
- [17:06] Cani: I can find something that comes close.
- [17:06] mordrude: there is literally nothing available that comes close
- [17:08] Cani: You do realize that by going with the full refund, you've effectively been stringing me along for 19 months with nothing to show for it but promoting your business.
- [17:08] mordrude: You do realize that a theft is beyond my control, correct?
- [17:09] Cani: It's 100% your responsibility, theft or not. We had a binding agreement, and it's your responsibility to live up to it.
- [17:10] Cani: Theft prevention is completely under your control by making sure your premises is secure, and by maintaining insurance against loss or damage.
- [17:10] Cani: That's how businesses work.
- [17:10] mordrude: a full refund is living up to my responsibility
- [17:10] Cani: This all could have been avoided if you had just finished it on time.
- [17:11] mordrude: I'm the one eating this loss here
- [17:11] mordrude: I'm the one out all the time and effort I've put into this
- [17:12] mordrude: you will have received full compensation for the transaction, and I am not obligated to anything beyond that point
- [17:12] mordrude: and, by the way, the response here is rather telling
- [17:12] Cani: What's that supposed to mean?
- [17:13] mordrude: you are getting irate at me for being willing to fully refund you instead of giving you a partial commission
- [17:14] Cani: I'm getting irate because I've been waiting 19 months with nothing to show for it, when I could have comissioned someone else and had it in 6 or less.
- [17:14] mordrude: you are also accusing me of destroying the rest of the costume which is completely unfounded
- [17:15] Cani: Your work is amazing, and I've been waiting patiently for it.
- [17:15] Cani: I didn't accuse you of destroying it.
- [17:15] mordrude: [17:04] Cani: What, did you destroy the rest of the suit or something?
- [17:05] mordrude:
- [17:15] Cani: I was making a point that it isn't a waste.
- [17:15] mordrude: you most certainly did
- [17:15] Cani: It WILL be a waste if you just refund me for everything.
- [17:16] mordrude: I still hope the police will follow their leads and recover it
- [17:16] Cani: But, if you send me what you have done, with a partial refund for what's missing, I'd still at least be able to make use of your time and effort.
- [17:16] Cani: Your work is very, very good.
- [17:16] mordrude: until then, or until a reasonable time for it to surface has passed, there's nothing more I can do
- [17:17] Cani: And you yourself presented the option of giving me a $300 partial refund for the missing head.
- [17:17] Cani: Which I was willing to take.
- [17:17] mordrude: I have since decided that is not in my best interest
- [17:18] Cani: If that's the case, then it's in my best interest to post the details of the entire transaction to A_B.
- [17:18] Cani: So that other commissioners don't get screwed over like this.
- [17:19] mordrude: screwed over by a full refund, that seems like a pretty odd thing logically
- [17:21] mordrude: the only fault I have had in this transaction is taking quite a bit of time completing your commission
- [17:21] mordrude: and I take the brunt of the responsibility for that
- [17:22] mordrude: if I had handled everything properly, I should have refunded you way back then, because I could not bring myself to work on your project because of the drama
- [17:22] Cani: Which says a lot about your lack of professionalism.
- [17:23] mordrude: I was so close to completing it though, I wanted to try to force through it
- [17:23] mordrude: you can attack my professionalism all you want
- [17:24] mordrude: I am offering a full refund, since I cannot complete the transaction as agreed upon, that says enough about my professionalism
- [17:25] mordrude: but I am waiting to be sure this head is not going to be recovered before I take action on it
- [17:26] mordrude: I have taken all reasonable action to recover this head, past getting the police involved and getting the word out to everyone I possibly can, there's nothing else I can do but wait
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