MSN convo between SammyNSC and Ryan West aka Kosari aka Doonrak aka Silvershift

Sammy NSC says
you done with tibia?

Ryan says
ot shit is dead

Sammy NSC says
indeed

Ryan says
no moneys to get

Sammy NSC says
how you make money now?

Ryan says
social service
u?

Sammy NSC says
working part time
Ryan says
work is for nobs
pa for life

Sammy NSC says
depends on what you do in life
some people like what they do
Ryan says
i like
doing nothing
Sammy NSC says
lmao

Ryan says
so bored atm
fking high wtf

Ryan says
i still check ur pk movies
subscribed huehue

Sammy NSC says
yeah still play that shit
haha, i was looking for that roldera youtube channel you made
disappeared

Ryan says
stillt here i think
youtube.com/user/oldera772

Sammy NSC says
there we go

Sammy NSC says
when did you get interested in open tibia, and why?

Ryan says
2005 because my best friend was trapped in a hole at rookgard without rope so had to rope em out
then got stuck in the game

Sammy NSC says
what about open tibia server, when you opened your first server, how much did you know about that type of stuff?

Ryan says
nothing much, i opened a xml server fast attk speed servers was the trend back then
i called it doria or w.e. not sure had like 60 steady players
only online for around 5 hrs a day when i was on my dads pc
back then nobdoy had dedicated servs and shit
just all home servs and trying to get on ur favorite serv asap it goes on

Sammy NSC says
i see you ran a tibia leveling service, how did that go?

Ryan says
recall on that please
used to have a goldservice not sure what the domain was

Sammy NSC says
a nvm, it was some thread u made in like 07 on otfans

Ryan says
anyways all goldservice/lvlingservices were scams

Ryan says
as they were always paid through daopay
once i had my servs making money
i could pay for anything
a botnet, a hacker, programmers etc
and was around 15-16 so just wanna be internethero and pulled off a good job i think

Sammy NSC says
yeah good times, you spread your botnet thorugh that oldera custom file right?

Ryan says
some people i just hated and i would let them know
nope i actually didnt
was a false rport on asprate's ipchanger
which still reports having trojans in it
cuz of the auto updater
botnet was growing via warez forums posting so called cracks and purchasing more bots from more experienced herders

Sammy NSC says
oh you paid for botnets? you still got any left?

Ryan says
yea 100mbps lines have used them a while back
on oldtibia and some 7.4/7.6 from some gay
not sure
realsoft
but just ddosed him because he noted rules on his website "the law is u dont ddos or i get police on u blabla"

Sammy NSC says
yeah was just gonnna ask about him, i remember you ddosing him none stop, well you ddosed many ots. But him in particular

Ryan says
yea

Ryan says
ddosed tibianic, realots, otland a few times
etc
for concurrention but purely for fun

Sammy NSC says
yeah i remember, outcast too lol
Ryan says
kinda tough to be hero anonymous on internet lols
yea outcast cuz my cousin plays on it
boono, hes still getting everything he wants

Sammy NSC says
oh yeah i forgot he was your cousin
about oldera, where did you get the files?
they are CIP's solft files right?

Ryan says
partly yes
started more at narozia
there used to be a old otbm released
without monsters quests and shit, cipsoft's map
so we began tracking it
thats how narozia started 900 online average players
so we got konrad
converting all the shit

Sammy NSC says
whose konrad again?

Ryan says
the exe was made by
remere
open tibia svn 0.7.3
konrad owner tibianic

Ryan says
i was about starting classicalia with him but some things got in the way
yes his files are based on my files
he just perfected everything, props to him though

Sammy NSC says
yeah but i mean, how does he get everything right? All the details?
that cip used in 06

Ryan says
partly perfecting himself
and prolly getting files from one and another
sim_one from simone's mapeditor owns all files
toor also from realots
and remere a part of that
so one of those gave some files too him
most likely

Sammy NSC says
oh i see

Ryan says
that are only real owners of cipsoft files
as i recall
but cipsoft files are hard to use raw, we had to convert all npcs for an instance
as they were in cipsoft's formatting thus not useable out of the box

Sammy NSC says
who are the owners of the real files?

Ryan says
toor original owner
dennis
or well cipsoft is original owner but toor had access to a gameserver back in the days
when everything loginserv etc was hosted on 1/2 server
s

Sammy NSC says
I think tibianic owner(ironyt) got them too cause dennis gave them to him

Ryan says
sim_one signed a legal contract
not distributing the files though

Sammy NSC says
so toor is that infamous GM that used to work for CIP and stole the files from them?
Ryan says
most likely via via
toor has knowledge to actually extract files and such
infamous gm/or inside guy most likely didnt know shit bout computers

Sammy NSC says
i dont follow, toor got it from the guy who worked there?

Ryan says
most likely i dont know details
u must know toor, sim_one, remere
the regular open tibia svn developers have a lot of files

Sammy NSC says
aight, so what about now, you still sell the oldera files?

Ryan says
yea sure
just a lot of people talking lot of shit and not buying

Sammy NSC says
yeah well you prolly kno why they skeptical

Ryan says
im not forcing or begging for someone to buy
buying is under my terms and ofc i know about my name
they are valueable files

Sammy NSC says
without a doubt

Ryan says
as they are kinda one of the few original servers out in ots

Sammy NSC says
so no plans on coming back?

Ryan says
no not rly
i can host for people
but not really into creating and maintaining server
as in fixing mapbugs npcs smallbugs etc

Sammy NSC says
you still got access to that dedi center in nl?
free hosting?

Ryan says
yea
colocated
Sammy NSC says

    2gb ram dualcore
    100mbps
    snort software installed that filters connection through to your main dedi incase of ddos
these specs?

Ryan says
yea
snort used to be on a server filteringall connections
to main serv
back in narozia days due lotsa ddosing
now its software on the mainserv
blocking some dos scriptkiddie shits
but if someone wants he can get the serv down

Sammy NSC says
indeed, cant stop that shit
how did you get into all this technical stuff?

Ryan says
been into computers since ive been 9 or so

Sammy NSC says
i remember you were like 15-16
and doing all this shit to ppls ots

Ryan says
i was 15 yrs old making 100 eur a day
not good for a child
i dont value money properly atm
dont work because i dont feel like cuz i used to get moneys for free

Sammy NSC says
from tibia related stuff?

Ryan says
yea
narozia was peak days
900 users online a day
if we did offer we d made 350eur~
like 50% discount
all by daopay, when daopay still paid normal payout

Sammy NSC says
so you hanged on forums to learn all this stuff or what?

Ryan says
yea
i was 8 hrs a day online

Sammy NSC says
hackforums? digital gangsters?
Ryan says
12 yrs straight in weekends
noooooo  never those shit
just got in touch with specific people
some russian fellows
dont do hackkiddie forums its a load of bs
with only trojans on it

Ryan says
they first ddosed narozia
asking kinda ransom or w.e. u call it
to not ddos, and it was a big ddos

Sammy NSC says
and he started teaching you?

Ryan says
we started as a kinda enemy relation
then i started using his services
and get more involved etc
still talk him occasianelly

Sammy NSC says
you used to play tyth right?

Ryan says
tyth?
the 7.6 tythorzeth?

Sammy NSC says
yah

Ryan says
yea played it loads
really loaaaaaaaads
still think outcast is a tythorzeth ripoff

Sammy NSC says
heh
btw you got banned of otland for ddosing it right?
i remember you couldnt advertise there

Ryan says
no just for being dick and most wanted on otland
all threads i started was flamewar

Sammy NSC says
lol
mind if i make this convo public?

Ryan says
nop
prolly they wont believe its me though

Sammy NSC says
why not?

Ryan says
dunno
nobody ever believes
im real ryan balabla