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<--My message to ben-->

here is a nice comparison of bbpress phpbb and smf
http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/bbPress+phpBB+SMF

In general your server is struggling because of all the SQL queries.
I dont think your front end or the forums has any kind of caching.
Even simply caching the theme instead of calling SQL would be a huge improvement.

That new bbpress2.0 plugin doesn't even have the same filtering as the old bbpress.  we cant moderate the site properly as it is. Removing more admin capabilities is bad.
bbpress2.0 isnt developing proper tools and it is hoping 3rd parties will create plugins for it.  Anyone can create a wordpress plugin and have listed on the wordpress.org site.
With 3rd party plugins you always risk no being able to get any help if something goes wrong.  That happens a lot with wordpress plugins.
It will happen with us, there will be a bug and we wont be able to fix it without you going to the code and trying to fix without really knowing how.

phpbb has caching built in and it will reduce the load on your server.  you will notice an improvement, I promise.
If you still feel like waiting for another server before using phpbb, lets leave the forums alone for now.


we know bbpress has security flaws.  all they have to do is post a link that is to large and the thread crashes.  We know that registration has security flaws.  we cant block ip address.  we cant preemptively block proxies or spam email registration services.  we also know that phpbb can do all of that.

I think that covers it.



<--his response-->
> bbpress2.0 isnt developing proper tools and it is hoping 3rd parties will
> create plugins for it.  Anyone can create a wordpress plugin and have listed
> on the wordpress.org site.

That's the beauty of it - wp and bbp core teams can focus on security
and performance while dedicated plugin devs can add optional extended
functionality that gets highlighted on the main page instead of
relegated to a distant subforum like with phpbb and others. Your link
shows that most bloatware functionality is covered with bbp plugins
even on a ancient version review.

The broken page bug is related to the theme in place on /forums, the
plugin doesn't have this issue - however phpbb still has page breaking
bugs (http://tracker.phpbb.com/browse/PHPBB3-9909) because their devs
are probably busy with birthday calendar features instead of fixing
their shitty parser.