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  1. [1:18:08 AM] Jade at heart: I'm sorry for my attitude. I feel very strongly about my ideas and get very defensive about them, but I am willing to restart. There was an idea for a Han Solo type thing with her, if that fits this better then I could use some help building that idea up. Otherwise I am open to hearing any suggestions about how Jade should be.
  2. [1:19:57 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Well have you considered a non human race if you want to keep the gardener aspect
  3. [1:20:22 AM] Jade at heart: No.
  4. [1:20:56 AM] caliginousAqueduct: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zelosian
  5. These guys are actually plants
  6. [1:23:48 AM] Jade at heart: Thats pretty cool and fitting for her personality.
  7. [1:24:26 AM] caliginousAqueduct: It also gives her a reason to have like really green ass eyes
  8. [1:24:54 AM] Jade at heart: Yea, it does.
  9. [1:27:51 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Perhaps it would be a good idea to explore the wiki so you can get a good idea of different things which are present in the EU?
  10. [1:28:05 AM] Jade at heart: I'm doing that.
  11. [1:43:12 AM] Jade at heart: Since Zelosians can be force-sensitive I imagine she would still be slightly force-sensitive, understanding the living force, but be a non-lightsaber-wielder. Though to me I can't imagine a Zelosian being too violent I suppose her weapon of choice would be a blaster?
  12. [1:43:40 AM] caliginousAqueduct: I didn't have a problem with her being a Jedi
  13. [1:44:03 AM] caliginousAqueduct: I had a problem with her having no goals or motivation outside of flailing a lightsaber at some sith.
  14. [1:44:30 AM] caliginousAqueduct: They can be as violent as they wish, there was a book about one who was a smuggler held prisoner aboard the deathstar.
  15. [1:44:44 AM] caliginousAqueduct: the living force though huh
  16. [1:45:44 AM] Jade at heart: I read about that character as I was tying to find a common weapon, I didn't want to believe that basically a walking human plant could be slightly brutal.
  17. [1:46:27 AM] caliginousAqueduct: I would have thought Jade for the unifying force, since the time shenanigans jade pulls in getting all those packages to deliver on time
  18. [1:48:57 AM] caliginousAqueduct: what kind of blaster?
  19. [1:54:55 AM] Jade at heart: Well I was thinking for the living force because of instincts and the sensativity to living things and it did not require a greater understanding, though unifying force would do well for her too. I was thinking blaster rifle.....
  20. [1:55:12 AM] caliginousAqueduct: what kind of blaster rifle
  21. [1:58:58 AM] Jade at heart: Am I allowed to have the BL-28?
  22. [1:59:29 AM] caliginousAqueduct: the sniper variant or normal?
  23. [1:59:43 AM] caliginousAqueduct: it doesn't matter either way just asking
  24. [2:00:02 AM] caliginousAqueduct: that's a pretty old model though how did jade get her hands on a relic like that?
  25. [2:05:31 AM] Jade at heart: I imagine she would have the normal one. She was looking in a junkyard one day, trying to find something that would be fun to tinker with. In one particular pile of junk there was the blaster, a little roughed up and pretty much unusable but Jade found it fixable. So she brought it home and started tinkering with it, figuring out what would happen to fix something like this. Eventually she was able to completely refurbish it and get it working again.
  26. [2:06:00 AM] caliginousAqueduct: So she has experience with firearms?
  27. [2:06:12 AM] Jade at heart: Yes.
  28. [2:06:13 AM] caliginousAqueduct: or at least
  29. [2:06:16 AM] caliginousAqueduct: fixing them?
  30. [2:06:20 AM] caliginousAqueduct: prior to this?
  31. [2:10:11 AM] Jade at heart: She has an understanding of firearms and the mechanics of them through books and actually refurbishing other blasters from the old republic then selling them off. Thats how she would make some of her living as a teenager, fixing old mechanics and selling them off. She never could find one that blaster she per say liked, that is until the BL-28.
  32. [2:10:41 AM] caliginousAqueduct: I see, what is it she likes about the BL-28?
  33. [2:10:50 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Where are her parents?
  34. [2:15:41 AM] Jade at heart: Well she was at first drawn to how it looked, however after fixing it she realized it handled nicely and she made the ultimate decision to keep it.
  35. She doesn't actually know where her parents are, she knows she must have had them however she can't remember ever being with them. Its been like that since she can remember, with an old man trying to raise her whom she can assume she wasn't related to but isn't quite sure.
  36. [2:16:51 AM] caliginousAqueduct: alright well, what are her goals or motivations, what drives her to do, anything.
  37. [2:18:03 AM] Jade at heart: She wants to help.
  38. [2:18:18 AM] caliginousAqueduct: help who
  39. [2:18:20 AM] caliginousAqueduct: with what
  40. [2:20:22 AM] Jade at heart: Everyone, She wants to help those in the dark.
  41. [2:20:38 AM] caliginousAqueduct: in the dark, what does that mean to her?
  42. [2:20:52 AM] caliginousAqueduct: I mean a lot of people also want contradictory things.
  43. [2:21:31 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Dave probably wants to kill Jedi, Condy wants to rule the galaxy, Aradia wants to find sith artifacts.
  44. [2:26:26 AM] Jade at heart: Anyone who seems to show darkness in their soul. cruelty is among the first things in mind of traits those might have.
  45. [2:26:53 AM] caliginousAqueduct: So she. What wants to help people who are cruel?
  46. [2:27:24 AM] Jade at heart: She wants to help people who have lost their way.
  47. [2:28:13 AM] caliginousAqueduct: So she is trying to go out and press her morals onto people?
  48. [2:29:24 AM] Jade at heart: Not press, more try to reason with them and see their ways. Though if they become violent with her then she will become violent with them.
  49. [2:29:58 AM] caliginousAqueduct: And what is their ways are "I like killing?" or "Go away." or even "I like money."
  50. [2:30:34 AM] Jade at heart: More along the lines of "I like killing."
  51. [2:31:10 AM] caliginousAqueduct: No I am asking what if they just tell her something that just is unrepentant but they don't attack her.
  52. [2:32:34 AM] Jade at heart: Oh, she'll try to reason with them but if they seem unwilling and aren't getting violent then Jade would simply leave them with a kind word and try to make a mutual peace.
  53. [2:32:53 AM] caliginousAqueduct: She sounds like a Jedi still.
  54. [2:33:52 AM] caliginousAqueduct: But her goals are still pretty vague, I mean it doesn't have to be anything huge. Aradia's goal is to acquire sith artifacts for example.
  55. [2:34:32 AM] Jade at heart: Her goal can't be a simple she wants to help people?
  56. [2:34:53 AM] caliginousAqueduct: It doesn't exactly lend it self well to any sort of plot.
  57. [2:35:09 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Mindfang wants to reconnect with her son and regain some of her former strength.
  58. [2:35:28 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Its clear and defined, a good goal where she can work at things and leads itself to more goals.
  59. [2:35:59 AM] Jade at heart: Then what should her goal be?
  60. [2:36:49 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Hmm. Well if she wants to help people maybe she should take up politics, we had a senator once in the group I think, or she could just go out and search for something.
  61. [2:37:17 AM] Jade at heart: Could she be searching to become a jedi?
  62. [2:37:47 AM] caliginousAqueduct: She could though we don't have any Jedi right now other than mindfang who is in exile.
  63. [2:38:30 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Why does she want to be a monk though?
  64. [2:39:36 AM] Jade at heart: I don't know.
  65. [2:42:59 AM] Jade at heart: I feel like she should be searching for something, but I don't know what.
  66. [2:43:50 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Mmm well, she can be a monk if you want, its not like the new order has anything against training those who are adults or teenagers.
  67. [2:44:05 AM] caliginousAqueduct: But why would she want to give up her freedom to a religion.
  68. [2:46:35 AM] Jade at heart: She wouldn't.
  69. [2:49:23 AM] Jade at heart: She would want her freedom.
  70. [2:49:46 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Mm well even the new order is a religion and a bit restrictive.
  71. [2:49:55 AM] caliginousAqueduct: truth + justice and all that
  72. [2:53:13 AM] Jade at heart: So thats not gonna work but I have to have more than help people.
  73. [2:54:34 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Some goals are better than others, Eridan's is be the absolute best mandalorian.
  74. [2:55:13 AM] Jade at heart: Be the best zelosian she can be?
  75. [2:55:51 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Mmm it works better with mandalorians because they have a strict warriors code and are basically high priced mercenaries by default.
  76. [2:56:30 AM] Jade at heart: Then I don't know what to do.
  77. [2:57:12 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Well its three am for me so I am going to bed. Why don't you just read the wiki more and think on it.
  78. [3:09:23 AM] Jade at heart: Explore the galaxies or become a master engineer or tinker for the good guys that I can't remember the name of because I'm tired?
  79. [3:09:36 AM] caliginousAqueduct: ?
  80. [3:09:44 AM] caliginousAqueduct: The good guys?
  81. [3:13:13 AM] Jade at heart: I guess she would technically be neutral but helping the jedi's?
  82. [3:13:33 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Are the Jedi the good guys?
  83. [3:13:48 AM] Jade at heart: Yes?
  84. [3:14:07 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Mmm that may be the problem here, that's some pretty black and white thinking there.
  85. [3:15:14 AM] Jade at heart: She helps whoever has the same outlook as her, which would possibly be the jedis so to Jade they would be good.
  86. [3:17:52 AM] caliginousAqueduct: I see. That's pretty bland still though innit, it isn't like working to reconnect with a son that was taken away, trying to find magical little pieces of history, becoming the supreme warrior, or even trying to rule the galaxy with an iron fist. Jade just wants to. Play with lightsabers I guess?
  87. [3:19:47 AM] Jade at heart: Thats part of it, she wants to help the side she agrees with most too. And its more figuring out how the weapons are made, work, built, then trying to see if she can better them in some way.
  88. [3:20:21 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Well its not a mystery how lightsabers work, anyone could tell you that more or less.
  89. [3:20:34 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Its a blade of plasma sealed with a magnetic field
  90. [3:20:54 AM] Jade at heart: Theres more weapons than a lightsaber.
  91. [3:21:42 AM] caliginousAqueduct: associated with the Jedi?
  92. [3:21:47 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Eh, not particularly.
  93. [3:22:11 AM] Jade at heart: Other neutrals can come to her.
  94. [3:24:06 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Why would they though?
  95. [3:24:37 AM] Jade at heart: They could have been previous customers or have heard about her.
  96. [3:24:47 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Customers?
  97. [3:24:57 AM] caliginousAqueduct: I thought she just tinkered with things as a hobby
  98. [3:25:07 AM] Jade at heart: And sold the ones she didn't want.
  99. [3:25:53 AM] caliginousAqueduct: And where and who did she sell them to, didn't she live on a junkyard planet?
  100. [3:26:17 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Its not like its Coroscant
  101. [3:26:30 AM] Jade at heart: Visitors.
  102. [3:26:59 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Visitors to a junk yard planet tend to just be looking for scrap
  103. [3:27:44 AM] Jade at heart: She could go off planet to sell.
  104. [3:27:59 AM] caliginousAqueduct: Why would she come back then
  105. [3:28:28 AM] Jade at heart: It was home, and she wasn't ready to actually leave yet.
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