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  1. [2011-11-20 00:06:47] <Wutenheimer> damn, no booze
  2. [2011-11-20 00:11:06] <Wutenheimer> cant watch mlp sober D:
  3. [2011-11-20 00:11:56] <Wutenheimer> confound those ponys, they drive me to drink
  4. [2011-11-20 00:39:14] <Arkeus> lol
  5. [2011-11-20 00:39:17] <Arkeus> Sure they do
  6. [2011-11-20 00:44:02] <Ironybot> I have finally gotten around to posting things.
  7. [2011-11-20 00:44:13] <Captain-Lightning> ?gfh
  8. [2011-11-20 00:44:14] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
  9. [2011-11-20 00:44:14] <Captain-Lightning> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AofFHb7RNxY
  10. [2011-11-20 00:44:15] <Classhole> Captain-Lightning: vicar's daughters - length 6s - rated 4.43/5.0 (14) - 1819 views - marinna205 on 2011.06.04
  11. [2011-11-20 00:44:30] <Ironybot> Mostly Camella follow-up and an attempt at introducing her and Hillevi properly.
  12. [2011-11-20 00:45:14] <BUTTZ> If you're in the mood for a documentary this one covers Istanbul's sub-city
  13. [2011-11-20 00:45:15] <BUTTZ> http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/cities-of-the-underworld/
  14. [2011-11-20 00:47:47] <Arkeus> "Look, if I were a wizard all my whims could be made real with a thought. Surely I would have put you in a bikini at least once by now." We'd do it for the expected look on her face, of course. <= you do know some of us were wanting to do that if she comes to smets, right?
  15. [2011-11-20 00:47:49] <Arkeus> <_<
  16. [2011-11-20 00:47:53] <Arkeus> Well, not bikini
  17. [2011-11-20 00:47:57] <Arkeus> but you know what i mean
  18. [2011-11-20 00:48:37] <Guile> sure, if Armas isnt super attached to his limbs or anything
  19. [2011-11-20 00:48:46] <Arkeus> He blew up the building, but we all got out all right and shot him a bunch of times so I'm calling that a win for us. <= no mention of us throwing down the building on him?
  20. [2011-11-20 00:48:47] <Arkeus> awww
  21. [2011-11-20 00:48:54] <Arkeus> Guile: that's ok!
  22. [2011-11-20 00:49:37] <Guile> Im a bit disappointed bob didnt use my introductory line for Hillevi, I thought it was pretty good
  23. [2011-11-20 00:50:41] <Ironybot> We didn't really throw the building on him. I mean, we threw him out and then he got hit with it, but it's not like we were really able to direct it towards him in any fashion.
  24. [2011-11-20 00:51:10] <Guile> Im willing to take credit for random acts of physics
  25. [2011-11-20 00:53:08] <frogzilla> Super attached to his limbs? Bah, Armas seems to lose one every other week.
  26. [2011-11-20 00:53:39] <Guile> you're right. if she wants to make an impression, she'd have to go after our bits
  27. [2011-11-20 00:53:46] <Arkeus> awww :-(
  28. [2011-11-20 00:53:49] <Arkeus> That's kinky
  29. [2011-11-20 00:53:58] <Arkeus> (to say to camella)
  30. [2011-11-20 00:54:14] <Arkeus> Anyway, gotta agree with your post Ironybot
  31. [2011-11-20 00:54:21] <Arkeus> Pretty much everything there is good
  32. [2011-11-20 00:54:26] <Ironybot> Why, thank you.
  33. [2011-11-20 00:54:29] <BUTTZ> Are you guys talking about tormenting Camella again?
  34. [2011-11-20 00:55:52] <Ironybot> I don't think any of my suggested lines even hit particularly trollish, let alone torment.
  35. [2011-11-20 00:56:43] <Guile> we just went from irony to random creepy trollings
  36. [2011-11-20 00:57:09] <Arkeus> Well, goodnight folks
  37. [2011-11-20 00:57:13] <Arkeus> 8 Am here
  38. [2011-11-20 00:57:15] <Arkeus> laters
  39. [2011-11-20 00:57:50] |<-- TheBeardiestBob has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  40. [2011-11-20 00:58:04] <Samar> and that there means no second update
  41. [2011-11-20 00:58:16] <Guile> pretty much
  42. [2011-11-20 00:58:23] |<-- Guile has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  43. [2011-11-20 00:58:52] <BUTTZ> Bob's given late updates before hasn't he?
  44. [2011-11-20 00:59:05] <Ironybot> Not often.
  45. [2011-11-20 01:00:09] <Ironybot> In other news, there is a palindrome quite soon if someone wishes to prepare a post to catch it.
  46. [2011-11-20 01:01:09] <Arkeus> yeah, both palindrome and 66666
  47. [2011-11-20 01:01:25] <Arkeus> if i wake up early enough, i'll try to catch one of the two
  48. [2011-11-20 01:01:34] <Ironybot> Ah, 66666 hadn't even occurred to me.
  49. [2011-11-20 01:01:57] <Ironybot> They are a mere twenty posts off. I don't think that there is much time for sleep here.
  50. [2011-11-20 01:02:07] <Arkeus> yeah, but it's 8 am
  51. [2011-11-20 01:02:18] <Arkeus> I'd prefer if someone else grabs them
  52. [2011-11-20 01:02:48] <Captain-Lightning> "Well, I've done it: I've had my heart to heart with Camella, caught up on how she's been doing and appraised her of where we stand right now. So now, with me all warmed up and in completely unrestrictive clothing, I wonder""
  53. [2011-11-20 01:02:53] <Captain-Lightning> DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN YOU BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB
  54. [2011-11-20 01:03:34] <Ironybot> Note how my very first suggested follow-up line to that is that, had we the power, we would put her in a bikini?
  55. [2011-11-20 01:04:28] <Ironybot> One has to roll with these things.
  56. [2011-11-20 01:27:07] -->| TheBeardiestBob (cgiirc@Rizon-782A7F7C.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #golemquest
  57. [2011-11-20 01:27:25] <TheBeardiestBob> So first let me confirm there will be no second update tonight, got sucked into Skyrim... again.
  58. [2011-11-20 01:27:31] <TheBeardiestBob> Goddamn that crack-like game.
  59. [2011-11-20 01:27:47] <Ironybot> So we surmised upon your earlier disconnection.
  60. [2011-11-20 01:27:56] <TheBeardiestBob> Well I just wanted to be clear.
  61. [2011-11-20 01:28:08] <Ralith> :(
  62. [2011-11-20 01:28:17] <Ironybot> Your clarity is appreciated.
  63. [2011-11-20 01:28:35] <BUTTZ> It's ok, we're inventing a list of must-see animes and b-movies to force on Amen
  64. [2011-11-20 01:28:49] <TheBeardiestBob> Well best of luck on that.
  65. [2011-11-20 01:28:55] <TheBeardiestBob> I was hoping I could catch shot
  66. [2011-11-20 01:29:02] <TheBeardiestBob> but again, not on here.
  67. [2011-11-20 01:29:14] <BUTTZ> Yeah I saw your reply to him in disc
  68. [2011-11-20 01:30:04] <TheBeardiestBob> I am getting increasingly tired of his refusal to see his own actions in a negative light, coupled with his... rather passive approach to participating in the thread and entitled sense that if he is unhappy everyone must be made aware.
  69. [2011-11-20 01:30:16] <TheBeardiestBob> I am likely overgeneralizing at this point but it bothers me nevertheless.
  70. [2011-11-20 01:30:28] <Ironybot> What is the PM function that you reference repeatedly in that discussion post? I'm not familiar with it.
  71. [2011-11-20 01:30:44] <TheBeardiestBob> Depends on the irc type you're using
  72. [2011-11-20 01:30:46] <BUTTZ> History channel documentary: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/cities-of-the-underworld/
  73. [2011-11-20 01:31:03] <BUTTZ> The first episode's about Istanbul
  74. [2011-11-20 01:31:40] <TheBeardiestBob> I remember that show.
  75. [2011-11-20 01:31:46] <TheBeardiestBob> Host always seemed a bit off to me.
  76. [2011-11-20 01:32:37] <BUTTZ> It's that goofy 'stache and bald pate
  77. [2011-11-20 01:32:56] <Ralith> Ironybot: /msg name text
  78. [2011-11-20 01:33:03] <BUTTZ> If he spoke a half-octave deeper he'd be able to pull it off
  79. [2011-11-20 01:34:38] <Ironybot> Are you up for answering a few more random Guns for Hire questions, Bob?
  80. [2011-11-20 01:35:44] <MrTT> ""Look, if I were a wizard all my whims could be made real with a thought. Surely I would have put you in a bikini at least once by now."" - dammit
  81. [2011-11-20 01:35:45] <MrTT> why?
  82. [2011-11-20 01:36:02] <Ironybot> Because it would be fun to say?
  83. [2011-11-20 01:36:14] <Ironybot> Occasionally we make jokes.
  84. [2011-11-20 01:36:25] <Ironybot> Even more occasionally, they're even funny.
  85. [2011-11-20 01:36:26] <MrTT> its not that joking is bad
  86. [2011-11-20 01:36:50] <MrTT> its that it comes off more as creepy
  87. [2011-11-20 01:39:25] <Ironybot> That would depend heavily upon tone of voice and body language.
  88. [2011-11-20 01:40:15] <Wutenheimer> you know what the good part about that joke is?
  89. [2011-11-20 01:40:18] <Wutenheimer> we can do it.
  90. [2011-11-20 01:45:54] <Arkeus> 366660, huh
  91. [2011-11-20 01:46:02] <Arkeus> And i couldn't sleep
  92. [2011-11-20 01:46:14] <Ironybot> My sympathies.
  93. [2011-11-20 01:46:29] <Arkeus> Someone wants to post 366663 and i edit for 366666?
  94. [2011-11-20 01:48:50] <Ironybot> I will post a minor edit for 366663, if I don't miss it.
  95. [2011-11-20 01:50:34] <TheBeardiestBob> ....Dude
  96. [2011-11-20 01:50:50] <Ironybot> Yes?
  97. [2011-11-20 01:51:02] <TheBeardiestBob> M'iaq the liar just stole my Skyforge Battleaxe when I put it down in the outworld whilst inventory adjusting.
  98. [2011-11-20 01:51:05] <TheBeardiestBob> And... ran off.
  99. [2011-11-20 01:51:08] <TheBeardiestBob> up a mountain.
  100. [2011-11-20 01:51:19] <TheBeardiestBob> ...I have no weapon now.
  101. [2011-11-20 01:51:23] <TheBeardiestBob> what the fuck just happened.
  102. [2011-11-20 01:51:27] <Ironybot> I hope you learned to fight unarmed.
  103. [2011-11-20 01:51:44] <TheBeardiestBob> That's what this level's perk is for-and I'm not even half way.
  104. [2011-11-20 01:51:47] <TheBeardiestBob> ...Aaaah....
  105. [2011-11-20 01:51:48] <TheBeardiestBob> Hm.
  106. [2011-11-20 01:52:09] <BUTTZ> Oh that scamp
  107. [2011-11-20 01:52:18] <TheBeardiestBob> I'm not..... really sure how this is going to-oh yes wonderful of COURSE a dragon scream in the middle of the blizzard and battle music
  108. [2011-11-20 01:52:29] <TheBeardiestBob> Hold on
  109. [2011-11-20 01:52:51] <Arkeus> ahahhaahahahhah
  110. [2011-11-20 01:52:56] <Arkeus> This sounds awesome
  111. [2011-11-20 01:53:10] <Arkeus> Ironybot: 366663 is real soon, so prepare your edit
  112. [2011-11-20 01:53:30] <Ironybot> Preparations are complete.
  113. [2011-11-20 01:54:26] <TheBeardiestBob> .....Well, that was this character's first encounter with an Elder dragon.
  114. [2011-11-20 01:54:33] <TheBeardiestBob> ...At level 17.
  115. [2011-11-20 01:54:38] <TheBeardiestBob> How did THAT happen?
  116. [2011-11-20 01:54:47] <TheBeardiestBob> I thought they only popped up 30 plus?
  117. [2011-11-20 01:54:57] <TheBeardiestBob> Did M'Iaq set this up?
  118. [2011-11-20 01:55:08] <TheBeardiestBob> Does a bitch kitty need a punishment shower?
  119. [2011-11-20 01:55:11] <Arkeus> and damn it someone posted 366661 in gfh then delted
  120. [2011-11-20 01:55:12] <Arkeus> not fun
  121. [2011-11-20 01:55:19] <TheBeardiestBob> Am I going to need to get a pussy wet?
  122. [2011-11-20 01:55:24] <Arkeus> lol
  123. [2011-11-20 01:55:34] <Arkeus> This kahjiit owned you
  124. [2011-11-20 01:55:49] <TheBeardiestBob> Damn, out of innuendo, and yes M'Iaq did rape me truly effectively.
  125. [2011-11-20 01:55:50] <Arkeus> Btw, my new thief that i made this moring is already level 12 Oo
  126. [2011-11-20 01:56:01] <Arkeus> I just almost died from goddam hired thugs
  127. [2011-11-20 01:56:35] <TheBeardiestBob> Because you are a stealth build
  128. [2011-11-20 01:56:48] |<-- TheBeardiestBob has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  129. [2011-11-20 02:03:37] <Ironybot> Arkeus, there's the palindrome.
  130. [2011-11-20 02:03:51] <BUTTZ> MrTT I'm fairly certain Bob said we already did tell her Armas is a practicioner, not wizard
  131. [2011-11-20 02:04:24] <MrTT> stealth builds always get raped in games
  132. [2011-11-20 02:04:42] <MrTT> they always throw a boss you must defeat via normal combat
  133. [2011-11-20 02:04:51] <MrTT> and can't bypass or kill with the environment
  134. [2011-11-20 02:05:30] <Arkeus> Ironybot: thks
  135. [2011-11-20 02:05:33] <Arkeus> did you add anything?
  136. [2011-11-20 02:06:23] <Ironybot> Minor note that we should look at the souls of everyone and try to pick out anything interesting. Something might come up that's worth investigating in the souls of Ito's new students, one never knows.
  137. [2011-11-20 02:07:19] <Ironybot> Also, we should be able to tell how experienced someone is/how much life has thrown at them with a glance, these days; I didn't actually note that, but presumably it will come up if necessary.
  138. [2011-11-20 02:07:48] <Arkeus> Yeah, i talked about that in my own post
  139. [2011-11-20 02:07:52] <Arkeus> Before Edit
  140. [2011-11-20 02:08:04] <Arkeus> I'll say it in your words, too
  141. [2011-11-20 02:09:35] <Ironybot> I basically stole the idea from others' suggestions, but I thought it was worth emphasizing, and I usually try to post a complete course of action such that all other posts could be ignored and I'd be happy with the result.
  142. [2011-11-20 02:09:35] <Arkeus> BUTTZ, was it you who posted and deleted?
  143. [2011-11-20 02:09:39] |<-- TMIoverloadaway has left irc.rizon.net (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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  145. [2011-11-20 02:09:47] <BUTTZ> Yeah I fucked up and posted early
  146. [2011-11-20 02:09:53] <Arkeus> 'early'?
  147. [2011-11-20 02:10:00] <BUTTZ> I had a half-finished post
  148. [2011-11-20 02:10:03] <Arkeus> Ah
  149. [2011-11-20 02:10:25] <Ironybot> Do you want to take 366666, if you've got something substantial and new?
  150. [2011-11-20 02:10:28] <Arkeus> I am going to try and grab 366666, but don't hesitate to go for it too
  151. [2011-11-20 02:10:42] <MrTT> "Also, we should be able to tell how experienced someone is" - THEIR POWER LEVEL IS OVER NINE THOUSAND!
  152. [2011-11-20 02:10:52] <MrTT> lol
  153. [2011-11-20 02:10:54] <BUTTZ> Just as long as someone in GFH gets it I don't care
  154. [2011-11-20 02:11:09] <Ironybot> Oddly enough, that's pretty much exactly what we can tell these days.
  155. [2011-11-20 02:11:26] <BUTTZ> Maybe it might be wise to look around the grounds on the way out, and look for places someone staking the joint out would be posted
  156. [2011-11-20 02:11:56] <BUTTZ> We know they've been watching Armas since at least the incident in the first dojo
  157. [2011-11-20 02:12:11] <BUTTZ> They'd be dumb to not be watching Ito and Camella too, since they're tied to Armas
  158. [2011-11-20 02:12:20] <Arkeus> indeed
  159. [2011-11-20 02:12:39] <Ironybot> I found it interesting that Bob noted the Russians and Hillevi must have looked like our bodyguards as we walked around- perhaps a not-so-subtle hint that we are being watched by someone who would draw that conclusion.
  160. [2011-11-20 02:12:49] <BUTTZ> Well they're all big
  161. [2011-11-20 02:12:57] <Ironybot> So are we.
  162. [2011-11-20 02:13:13] <BUTTZ> Lyubov's the smallest person of the bunch
  163. [2011-11-20 02:13:36] <BUTTZ> Armas is dressed in a pimping pimp fighting suit, so he's the focal point
  164. [2011-11-20 02:13:42] <Ironybot> What was Lyubov's distinguishing characteristic?
  165. [2011-11-20 02:13:47] <BUTTZ> Vigilance
  166. [2011-11-20 02:13:56] <BUTTZ> Always on the look out for problems
  167. [2011-11-20 02:13:57] <Ironybot> Ah.
  168. [2011-11-20 02:14:58] <Ironybot> POST TIME NOW
  169. [2011-11-20 02:15:11] <Arkeus> Got it
  170. [2011-11-20 02:15:15] <MrTT> its amazing how well informed the goverment is
  171. [2011-11-20 02:15:17] <Arkeus> sorry, took me a while
  172. [2011-11-20 02:15:18] <MrTT> they know fucking EVERYTHING
  173. [2011-11-20 02:15:29] <MrTT> well, not everything but a lotathing
  174. [2011-11-20 02:15:29] <Arkeus> i was typing something else
  175. [2011-11-20 02:15:37] <BUTTZ> MrTT they're not full government though
  176. [2011-11-20 02:15:56] <BUTTZ> They were a third-party mortal brokerage operating with government blessing
  177. [2011-11-20 02:16:09] <BUTTZ> So they could use deniable techniques
  178. [2011-11-20 02:16:23] <Ironybot> I wonder if they kept backups somewhere.
  179. [2011-11-20 02:16:55] <BUTTZ> Or so I surmise, from the sub-text of the information we got from SM, the nature of the attack, Blackbeard's involvement, and the fact that Armas hasn't been arrested for the murder
  180. [2011-11-20 02:17:24] <Ironybot> After a certain level of paranoia, backups start to be seen as too much of a vulnerability to make the reliability worth it. Otherwise, obviously any competent organization would have them. So the question is how paranoid they are.
  181. [2011-11-20 02:17:58] <BUTTZ> A good back-up has just as much invested in its security as the working copy
  182. [2011-11-20 02:18:00] <Arkeus> Well
  183. [2011-11-20 02:18:06] <Arkeus> This building didn't officialy exist
  184. [2011-11-20 02:18:17] <Arkeus> It also seemed to not be really 'there'
  185. [2011-11-20 02:18:20] <Arkeus> also, it was OLD
  186. [2011-11-20 02:19:12] <BUTTZ> Was it old? Not sure on that point. It also had an extensive staff of mundanes, a shitload of modern fittings, and lots of wards to make it hard to notice magically.
  187. [2011-11-20 02:19:22] <BUTTZ> That's all stuff you can buy
  188. [2011-11-20 02:20:36] <Arkeus> Keep in mind the 'wards' were built in the very building
  189. [2011-11-20 02:20:42] <Arkeus> In the goddam stone
  190. [2011-11-20 02:20:52] <BUTTZ> You ever work with brick and masonry?
  191. [2011-11-20 02:20:58] <Ironybot> We don't know how hard that is to do.
  192. [2011-11-20 02:21:07] <Ironybot> For all we know, it's easy and inexpensive.
  193. [2011-11-20 02:21:11] <BUTTZ> It's not impossible to put shit in there when you're doing retrofit work.
  194. [2011-11-20 02:21:17] <Arkeus> mmmh
  195. [2011-11-20 02:21:32] <Arkeus> Anyway, i don't think it was affiliated with the government at all
  196. [2011-11-20 02:21:59] <BUTTZ> They had sanction from the government, SM specifically mentioned he couldn't do anything in that location because of an agreement with the mortal government
  197. [2011-11-20 02:22:06] <Ironybot> We might be able to discover this by talking to Hafaz and friends... which we have still not done.
  198. [2011-11-20 02:22:16] <BUTTZ> We're doing that next though
  199. [2011-11-20 02:22:23] <Arkeus> https://www.xkcd.com/ so true
  200. [2011-11-20 02:22:36] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: he said government?
  201. [2011-11-20 02:22:39] <Arkeus> i thought he said an agremeent
  202. [2011-11-20 02:22:43] <Arkeus> checking
  203. [2011-11-20 02:22:57] <BUTTZ> That stuck out with me, I'm fairly certain he specifically mentioned mortal government
  204. [2011-11-20 02:23:00] <BUTTZ> I could be wrong
  205. [2011-11-20 02:23:27] <Arkeus> >[SM]"Sadly, there is nothing to bargain with here-I know the address you speak of, and it is one of a small number in Turkey that... does not exist on paper. Given our deal with the Turkish Government... there is nothing we could offer that would not besmirch our name with the taint of sub-par goods." <= you are right
  206. [2011-11-20 02:23:30] <BUTTZ> Man we are going to have a grand time teasing Hafaz before we lay it on him that all we want is for him to take jobs with us now and then.
  207. [2011-11-20 02:23:48] <Arkeus> Actually, what i want from him is contacts
  208. [2011-11-20 02:24:06] <BUTTZ> Well whatever we get from him isn't going to be as expensive as he's imagining
  209. [2011-11-20 02:24:19] <Arkeus> heh yeah
  210. [2011-11-20 02:24:27] <Ironybot> I want him and his to full-on join our corp, bringing their talents and contacts with them on a permanent basis.
  211. [2011-11-20 02:24:39] <Wutenheimer> so, you guys find the BEAR CAVE yet?
  212. [2011-11-20 02:24:39] <Arkeus> Ironybot: not immediately though
  213. [2011-11-20 02:24:44] <Ironybot> Why not immediately?
  214. [2011-11-20 02:24:46] <Arkeus> Wutenheimer: that sounds nice
  215. [2011-11-20 02:24:48] <Wutenheimer> it's a cave with 11 bears in it.
  216. [2011-11-20 02:24:53] <Wutenheimer> and nothing else
  217. [2011-11-20 02:25:06] <BUTTZ> "So Hafaz I hope you understand how bad an idea it is to write blank checks. I mean, you bought the full-service extraction, healing and everything, and you got it. But that's not really cheap."
  218. [2011-11-20 02:25:14] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i think it's better if he fives us contact and slowly goes to ur group
  219. [2011-11-20 02:25:54] <BUTTZ> "But I'm not going to screw you; I'm a believer in the fundamentally fair deal. So let's make a deal."
  220. [2011-11-20 02:26:28] <Ironybot> Why is it better to move slowly on this? "I saved your life; you take a job working for me" seems like a fairly clean, fair trade to me.
  221. [2011-11-20 02:27:17] <BUTTZ> Yeah I really agree here
  222. [2011-11-20 02:27:22] <BUTTZ> Hafaz knows Armas already
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  224. [2011-11-20 02:57:03] <AlratanMobile> I take it there is not second update for Saturday?
  225. [2011-11-20 02:57:20] <Arkeus> [20-11 | 08:27:08] * TheBeardiestBob (cgiirc@Rizon-782A7F7C.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #Golemquest
  226. [2011-11-20 02:57:20] <Arkeus> [20-11 | 08:27:26] <TheBeardiestBob> So first let me confirm there will be no second update tonight, got sucked into Skyrim... again.
  227. [2011-11-20 02:57:20] <Arkeus> [20-11 | 08:27:32] <TheBeardiestBob> Goddamn that crack-like game.
  228. [2011-11-20 02:57:24] <Ironybot> Indeed not.
  229. [2011-11-20 02:58:20] <Ralith> Wutenheimer: I found a cave with two bears in it and nothing else!
  230. [2011-11-20 02:58:23] <Ralith> well there might have been one chest
  231. [2011-11-20 03:00:38] <Wutenheimer> while cool, its not 11 bears
  232. [2011-11-20 03:00:39] <AlratanMobile> Something I don't get about recent posts
  233. [2011-11-20 03:01:03] <AlratanMobile> Why do people hate the idea of operational security?
  234. [2011-11-20 03:01:44] <Arkeus> What do you mean by Operational Security?
  235. [2011-11-20 03:02:52] <Ironybot> No one hates the idea of operational security. Many people have a reckless disregard for its dictates and a lack of respect for its necessity, but I don't think any posters actively hate it.
  236. [2011-11-20 03:03:18] <AlratanMobile> We walk into a location we've never been in before
  237. [2011-11-20 03:03:29] <AlratanMobile> With people we don't know very well
  238. [2011-11-20 03:03:39] <AlratanMobile> And immediately tell all our secrets
  239. [2011-11-20 03:03:50] <AlratanMobile> Including many people would kill to learn
  240. [2011-11-20 03:04:31] <AlratanMobile> Right after we learn that the Turkish government already knows far, far too much about us
  241. [2011-11-20 03:04:51] <AlratanMobile> Without checking for surveillance
  242. [2011-11-20 03:05:04] <AlratanMobile> magical or mundane
  243. [2011-11-20 03:05:34] <AlratanMobile> Or even considering if the people we're talking to have any need whatsoever to know what we're telling them
  244. [2011-11-20 03:05:56] <AlratanMobile> Or even whether the secrets we're carelessly leaking are ours to give away
  245. [2011-11-20 03:06:13] <Arkeus> One thing to note is that J'zargo steals your items. No, seriously, anything you give him vanishes.
  246. [2011-11-20 03:06:13] <Arkeus> Be careful when using him as Companion. He's very powerful, but... yeah. Don't use him as a pack mule.
  247. [2011-11-20 03:06:13] <Arkeus> I'd call it a glitch, if it wasn't for the fact that he clearly implies through innuendo that not only does he constantly steal things from the College, but that he's interested in stealing things from you. As it stands, I find that surprising but not at all beyond reason. I'd believe it. So I guess we can add that in as a reason to not take him along for packmule duty. <= fucker
  248. [2011-11-20 03:06:26] <AlratanMobile> E.g. Anything about the Valkonens, there home or there powers
  249. [2011-11-20 03:06:53] <Arkeus> We didn't say any of that though AlratanMobile
  250. [2011-11-20 03:07:12] <Arkeus> In fact, Armas was very very careful into manipulating Camella into believing stuff
  251. [2011-11-20 03:07:22] <Arkeus> Deceptive Truthfulness FTW
  252. [2011-11-20 03:07:33] <Arkeus> Also, keep in mind we are at Ito's- this place is secure
  253. [2011-11-20 03:07:41] <AlratanMobile> That's because Bob was kind
  254. [2011-11-20 03:07:54] <Arkeus> No, that's because Armas is that way
  255. [2011-11-20 03:08:00] <AlratanMobile> The suggestion was for "the full story of our trip"
  256. [2011-11-20 03:08:23] <AlratanMobile> We also have no way of knowing that Ito's is secure
  257. [2011-11-20 03:08:38] <AlratanMobile> Is there a laser microphone pointed at a window?
  258. [2011-11-20 03:08:48] <Arkeus> We were told inquest that Camella had made a fortress out of it
  259. [2011-11-20 03:09:09] <AlratanMobile> Does Camella know how to defeat magitech surveillance?
  260. [2011-11-20 03:09:10] <Arkeus> And we know inquest that Camella is MUCH more up to date than ourself when it comes for checking bugs
  261. [2011-11-20 03:09:16] <Arkeus> Better than us
  262. [2011-11-20 03:09:40] <AlratanMobile> How would she know what a magitech or magic bug could do
  263. [2011-11-20 03:09:55] <AlratanMobile> Given she's ignorant of magic
  264. [2011-11-20 03:10:30] <AlratanMobile> As bad, as know associates of us, and given that we know there are multiple attempts per day to infiltrate the mansion
  265. [2011-11-20 03:10:41] <AlratanMobile> By magical creatures
  266. [2011-11-20 03:10:47] <Arkeus> She is better than us at that
  267. [2011-11-20 03:10:57] <Arkeus> And she has dealt with magical creatures getting in it, yes
  268. [2011-11-20 03:11:11] <AlratanMobile> How?
  269. [2011-11-20 03:11:32] <AlratanMobile> Can she create wards to stop incorporeal creatures?
  270. [2011-11-20 03:11:46] <AlratanMobile> Or to prevent something the size of a beetle coming in
  271. [2011-11-20 03:12:27] <Arkeus> We would have noticed incorporal creatures
  272. [2011-11-20 03:12:38] <Arkeus> And she sweeps for bugs regularly
  273. [2011-11-20 03:13:01] <Arkeus> Anyway, there is a difference between operational security and using security as an excuse to be paranoid
  274. [2011-11-20 03:13:36] <Ironybot> In answer to why I suggested that action, I judge Armas' mental health to be fragile and his social relationships to be largely unhealthy; further, I intend to work closely with Camella in the future and do not wish to risk things like "oh Armas is a cannibal" or "oh Armas does grunt work for a dark god" coming out and disrupting our relationship with her at a critical time. I was willing to...
  275. [2011-11-20 03:13:36] <Ironybot> ...gamble that anyone capable of defeating both Camella's known tendency to turn her homes into fortresses and our own supernatural sensory abilities, as well as those of Hillevi, would be able to become well-informed on us and our activities through other routes in any case should they care to, due to their obvious resources.
  276. [2011-11-20 03:13:38] <AlratanMobile> It's not paranoia when we know our property sees multiple infiltration attempts by magical creatures per day
  277. [2011-11-20 03:14:02] <AlratanMobile> Our supernatural senses are limited
  278. [2011-11-20 03:14:11] <AlratanMobile> They can only detect creatures we see
  279. [2011-11-20 03:14:29] <Ironybot> Or those which focus on us using any of several common senses, yes.
  280. [2011-11-20 03:14:30] <AlratanMobile> Or use sight as their primary means of perception
  281. [2011-11-20 03:14:38] <AlratanMobile> No, only sight
  282. [2011-11-20 03:14:45] <Ironybot> No, hearing as well.
  283. [2011-11-20 03:14:47] <AlratanMobile> We wouldn't detect a blind person
  284. [2011-11-20 03:14:52] <AlratanMobile> Who uses hearing
  285. [2011-11-20 03:15:22] <AlratanMobile> I specifically asked about that
  286. [2011-11-20 03:15:40] <AlratanMobile> Back when we first realised that it wasn't any attention
  287. [2011-11-20 03:15:46] <Arkeus> When?
  288. [2011-11-20 03:16:04] <Arkeus> Because i am pretty sure it's been REPEATDLY said that hearing was one of the ways we used our attention-sense
  289. [2011-11-20 03:16:05] <AlratanMobile> When the water manipulator child saw us
  290. [2011-11-20 03:16:08] <Arkeus> one of the MAIN watys
  291. [2011-11-20 03:16:11] <Arkeus> ways
  292. [2011-11-20 03:16:19] <AlratanMobile> Hearing is one of the ways we use it
  293. [2011-11-20 03:16:24] <Arkeus> Our hearing is also gettign a lot better
  294. [2011-11-20 03:16:26] <Ironybot> It explicitly uses both sight and hearing to detect Attention.
  295. [2011-11-20 03:16:28] <AlratanMobile> But it's very much secondary to sight
  296. [2011-11-20 03:16:41] <Ironybot> Sorry, not to detect, as forms of attention which it detects.
  297. [2011-11-20 03:16:44] <Arkeus> As in, much better than human
  298. [2011-11-20 03:16:56] <Ironybot> Our description of it to Einrik was "predominately built around sight and hearing as the senses it focuses on."
  299. [2011-11-20 03:17:14] <AlratanMobile> I tried that argument with Bob as well
  300. [2011-11-20 03:17:26] <Arkeus> Yeah, and we couldn't detect the domoinov because it didn't have sounds or something
  301. [2011-11-20 03:17:28] <Arkeus> well, not quite
  302. [2011-11-20 03:17:32] <Arkeus> let me get the quote
  303. [2011-11-20 03:17:34] <AlratanMobile> Whilst we can detect hearing
  304. [2011-11-20 03:17:46] <AlratanMobile> We can only detect it from
  305. [2011-11-20 03:17:52] <AlratanMobile> people who are sight primary
  306. [2011-11-20 03:18:14] <AlratanMobile> So we can detect the Hearing based Attention of a person who can see
  307. [2011-11-20 03:18:15] <MrTT> oh yea, camella caught a cat burgler
  308. [2011-11-20 03:18:18] <MrTT> an actual magic cat
  309. [2011-11-20 03:18:20] <MrTT> that burgles
  310. [2011-11-20 03:18:25] <MrTT> and made it her minion
  311. [2011-11-20 03:18:29] <AlratanMobile> but not from a blind person
  312. [2011-11-20 03:19:40] <AlratanMobile> So, she can catch cat sized things
  313. [2011-11-20 03:19:48] <AlratanMobile> What about mosquito sized
  314. [2011-11-20 03:19:58] <Arkeus> Nevertheless, this spirit has no eyes or ears to track or decieve-and a great deal of my Wyld Goblin Arts are rendered useless by this. In fact, now that I think about it that probably means All non-corporeal, spirit-based entities would be able to ignore my stealth abilities, since the Arts rely on deceiving actual eyes and ears.
  315. [2011-11-20 03:20:08] <Ironybot> Camella caught what the fuck now? Why didn't she mention that to us?
  316. [2011-11-20 03:20:22] <AlratanMobile> Why would she?
  317. [2011-11-20 03:20:35] <Ironybot> Because we were swapping tales of action and excitement?
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  319. [2011-11-20 03:20:54] <Arkeus> She might have, if we had asked bob
  320. [2011-11-20 03:21:02] <Arkeus> he did mention lots of stuff about what she dd
  321. [2011-11-20 03:21:12] <AlratanMobile> She's a trained special forces operative who knows that blabbing secrets is dangerous for both the listener and hearer
  322. [2011-11-20 03:21:16] <Arkeus> And yeah, we can deceive people who are about hearing
  323. [2011-11-20 03:21:36] <Arkeus> AlratanMobile: she told us a LOT, AlratanMobile
  324. [2011-11-20 03:21:37] <AlratanMobile> Arkeus: no, we can't, but I can't get to may computer
  325. [2011-11-20 03:21:48] <Arkeus> It's flat out said inquest
  326. [2011-11-20 03:21:59] <Arkeus> It may be harder for armas than for sight
  327. [2011-11-20 03:22:03] <Arkeus> but that's how it works
  328. [2011-11-20 03:22:05] <AlratanMobile> I specifically asked in IRC about a blind man
  329. [2011-11-20 03:22:16] <AlratanMobile> And was told no
  330. [2011-11-20 03:22:35] <AlratanMobile> Hearing only works on creatures who are sight primary
  331. [2011-11-20 03:22:35] <Ironybot> We can rehash this query next time Bob comes around instead of bickering about it.
  332. [2011-11-20 03:22:56] <Ironybot> And ask if Camella told us epic tales of catching and enslaving magical felines.
  333. [2011-11-20 03:23:14] <Ironybot> In any case, for now I am off to bed. Be seeing you.
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  377. [2011-11-20 12:34:43] <ManOfTroy> Yes.
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  380. [2011-11-20 12:35:24] <Arkeus> We should destroy the file on Armas. Burn it down right here? Eat it?
  381. [2011-11-20 12:35:24] <Arkeus> The best way to ensure it total destruction would probably be through Amen. <= worse way, he means :-(
  382. [2011-11-20 12:40:31] <Alratan> how about simply giving the files to SB to keep in the Dark
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  384. [2011-11-20 12:42:13] <Arkeus> Alratan: i thought you believed he was too tired to even talk?
  385. [2011-11-20 12:42:29] <Arkeus> But, yeah, the files have quite a few way to deal with them
  386. [2011-11-20 12:42:37] <Alratan> He may be
  387. [2011-11-20 12:42:41] <Arkeus> We should also keep in mind they aren't ours
  388. [2011-11-20 12:42:50] <Alratan> but we can wait a few hours for him to recover
  389. [2011-11-20 12:43:52] |<-- Samar has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  390. [2011-11-20 12:43:55] <Arkeus> That we can
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  393. [2011-11-20 12:45:32] <Arkeus> Yeah, i REALLY want to get Amen out of our mind
  394. [2011-11-20 12:45:40] <Alratan> Not seeing that ever happening
  395. [2011-11-20 12:45:54] <Arkeus> Pretty sure there are ways
  396. [2011-11-20 12:45:57] <Alratan> If we'd focused on blood rather than soul magic it might have been possible
  397. [2011-11-20 12:46:04] <Arkeus> Pretty sure if we did order him to, he would acquiesce
  398. [2011-11-20 12:46:17] <Arkeus> Alratan: that would have been worse, i think
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  400. [2011-11-20 12:46:33] <Alratan> It's the risks
  401. [2011-11-20 12:46:48] <Alratan> if the mind reading is an irrevocable consequence of ingesting his blood
  402. [2011-11-20 12:46:53] <Guile> its not like this file is alone, guys
  403. [2011-11-20 12:47:10] <Arkeus> Alratan: it's not irrevocable
  404. [2011-11-20 12:47:12] <Alratan> then the only way to execute our order may be to perma-kill us
  405. [2011-11-20 12:47:15] <Arkeus> he has to sustain the link
  406. [2011-11-20 12:47:17] <Guile> they must have backup copies, for redundancy if nothing else
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  408. [2011-11-20 12:47:21] <Arkeus> We know that
  409. [2011-11-20 12:47:27] <Arkeus> Guile: unsure
  410. [2011-11-20 12:47:37] <Samar_> Why, Internet.
  411. [2011-11-20 12:47:39] <Samar_> Why.
  412. [2011-11-20 12:47:41] <Alratan> Arkesu: we don't even know that Amen has to tell us the truth
  413. [2011-11-20 12:47:43] <Arkeus> Keep in mind that SM wanted that place gone, so it's possible they didn't
  414. [2011-11-20 12:48:17] <Arkeus> Alratan: we don't, but unless he does have to tell us the truth on things he can tell the truth about, we can't do anything about him at all
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  416. [2011-11-20 12:48:29] <Arkeus> Samar_: internet likes your bits
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  418. [2011-11-20 12:48:32] <Arkeus> tjhey are tasty
  419. [2011-11-20 12:48:51] <Alratan> Arkeus: I'm working on that basis
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  421. [2011-11-20 12:52:23] <Arkeus> .tell TheBeardiestBob I am sure this will be familiar to you: http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/humor/8e6c/images/2070/
  422. [2011-11-20 12:52:30] <Arkeus> oiii
  423. [2011-11-20 12:52:32] <Arkeus> GREED
  424. [2011-11-20 12:52:34] <Arkeus> Classhole
  425. [2011-11-20 12:52:39] <Arkeus> ?classhole
  426. [2011-11-20 12:52:43] <Arkeus> !classhole
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  428. [2011-11-20 12:57:36] <Arkeus> .tell TheBeardiestBob I am sure this will be familiar to you: http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/humor/8e6c/images/2070/
  429. [2011-11-20 12:57:53] <Arkeus> mmmh?
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  431. [2011-11-20 13:00:52] <Arkeus> ?gfh
  432. [2011-11-20 13:01:00] <Arkeus> yeah, false Classhole :-(
  433. [2011-11-20 13:01:07] * Arkeus Kicks Classhole
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  436. [2011-11-20 13:07:07] <Arkeus> "So what did he bet I'd do?"
  437. [2011-11-20 13:07:07] <Arkeus> Veiko's mouth gapes open as Tuomo laughs.
  438. [2011-11-20 13:07:07] <Arkeus> >[TV][In Finnish]"I knew it-I knew I knew it! Einrik's never taken a shine to anyone this fast but... ah, what was the term he used?"
  439. [2011-11-20 13:07:08] <Arkeus> >[VV][In Finnish]"Think it had something to do with sharks-or was it about putting in a great deal of effort?"
  440. [2011-11-20 13:07:08] <Arkeus> >[TV][In Finnish]"Whatever it is-you are clearly one of them-those type that like to use words like fists and beat people's minds in instead of fighting the proper way?"
  441. [2011-11-20 13:07:14] <Arkeus> *snerks*
  442. [2011-11-20 13:07:45] <Guile> I wonder what expression einrik used
  443. [2011-11-20 13:09:19] <ManOfTroy> Swiming with the Sharks?
  444. [2011-11-20 13:09:31] <ManOfTroy> Or 'Lawyers'
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  446. [2011-11-20 13:13:38] <Ironybot> Man, Tuomo and Veiko are horrifying. They seem like exactly what's wrong with the concept of isolating yourself from the rest of the world and focusing on nothing but warfare.
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  448. [2011-11-20 13:13:55] <Alratan> Hillevi's probably little better
  449. [2011-11-20 13:14:07] <Arkeus> Hillvi's so cute though
  450. [2011-11-20 13:14:18] <Arkeus> And we didn't let her have her first Vendetta
  451. [2011-11-20 13:14:25] <Arkeus> We must sic her at someone soon
  452. [2011-11-20 13:14:28] <Arkeus> to make her forgive us
  453. [2011-11-20 13:14:28] <Arkeus> :p
  454. [2011-11-20 13:16:46] <Alratan> what does she need to forgive us for?
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  456. [2011-11-20 13:16:54] <Arkeus> IT was a joke
  457. [2011-11-20 13:17:02] <Ironybot> I am really hoping that we can spend this year turning her into something much better than they are.
  458. [2011-11-20 13:17:03] <Arkeus> She left the estate before doing her first vendetta
  459. [2011-11-20 13:17:16] <Arkeus> She probably will
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  461. [2011-11-20 13:17:27] <Arkeus> Now, as to whether we'll be glad of the results, that's another thing
  462. [2011-11-20 13:17:31] <Arkeus> hey InsufferableMystic
  463. [2011-11-20 13:17:48] <Arkeus> Also, can someone SUST dkay? neither me nor Ironybot can edit
  464. [2011-11-20 13:17:54] <InsufferableMystic> THE LAST POSTER WANTS AMEN TO DISPOSE OF OUR FILES AAAAAAAAA
  465. [2011-11-20 13:17:58] <InsufferableMystic> BY AMEN
  466. [2011-11-20 13:18:00] <InsufferableMystic> AAAAAA
  467. [2011-11-20 13:18:06] * InsufferableMystic flips out
  468. [2011-11-20 13:18:21] <Ironybot> I am not incredibly keen on explicitly inviting Camella to live in our house, either.
  469. [2011-11-20 13:18:42] <Arkeus> InsufferableMystic: Dkay
  470. [2011-11-20 13:18:48] <Arkeus> yeah
  471. [2011-11-20 13:18:55] <Arkeus> Also, flat out lying about Blackbeard
  472. [2011-11-20 13:19:13] <Arkeus> Or warning her about hillevi like that
  473. [2011-11-20 13:19:22] <Arkeus> sounds a bit nasty
  474. [2011-11-20 13:19:43] <Ironybot> Yeah, she needs a proper introduction to Hillevi, not a quiet word of warning.
  475. [2011-11-20 13:20:16] <Guile> the twins are kinda interesting. All that power, no restraint or even forethought
  476. [2011-11-20 13:20:41] <Arkeus> It's interesting to note they weren't that much mroe 'powerful' than some of Stallon's tribes
  477. [2011-11-20 13:20:50] <InsufferableMystic> And we have thier hearts
  478. [2011-11-20 13:20:51] <Guile> the Valks? They kicked our ass.
  479. [2011-11-20 13:20:56] <Arkeus> Though i expect their bloodlines to be quite a bit more trained and better
  480. [2011-11-20 13:21:04] <InsufferableMystic> Oh other twins
  481. [2011-11-20 13:21:17] <Arkeus> Guile: i am talking about their souls here
  482. [2011-11-20 13:21:18] <Alratan> Doesn't Valk take up two slots, and Sami one?
  483. [2011-11-20 13:21:37] <Guile> dunno. I know Markku takes up 5
  484. [2011-11-20 13:21:49] <Alratan> Dkay has a good point about Camella's leg though
  485. [2011-11-20 13:21:57] <Guile> maybe the bloodline compounds again when they start mastering a new aspect of it?
  486. [2011-11-20 13:22:01] <Arkeus> >[EV][Einrik][In Finnish]"However, it was his Soul's Shadow that was most accurate. It correctly noted it was not one energy source, but two massive sources, surrounded by some number of much smaller forces-at best of an equivalent spiritual strength to... my younger brothers. I would say I am impressed-but given your shadow can only percieve the physical through magical means, it does make
  487. [2011-11-20 13:22:01] <Arkeus> sense it is the most... discerning of you two now."
  488. [2011-11-20 13:22:19] <Arkeus> Sami is a compounded bloodline, iirc
  489. [2011-11-20 13:22:29] <Ironybot> I don't know how we would tactfully approach "hey, I can cut off your leg and then grow it back better than you have it right now".
  490. [2011-11-20 13:22:30] <Arkeus> Not sure Valks take two slots
  491. [2011-11-20 13:22:36] <Alratan> Sami is compounded, but only the strnegth of a regular non-compounded bloodline
  492. [2011-11-20 13:22:52] <Arkeus> Unsure about that either
  493. [2011-11-20 13:23:01] <Alratan> IronyBot: offer to undo the wizards trolling of her
  494. [2011-11-20 13:23:07] <Arkeus> Keep in mind Sami is about soul magic, which means that is uses soul much more effectively
  495. [2011-11-20 13:23:28] <Alratan> does it?
  496. [2011-11-20 13:23:38] <Ironybot> Also, how long does it take for healing to consider a graft part of her actual body? How firmly did the wizard attach it, in magical terms?
  497. [2011-11-20 13:23:43] <InsufferableMystic> I want to look a Camella's leg, see if the soul is any different in relation to that
  498. [2011-11-20 13:23:45] <Alratan> it means we can do different stuff to souls
  499. [2011-11-20 13:23:53] <Ironybot> These are questions worth investigating before we jump to conclusions.
  500. [2011-11-20 13:23:54] <Arkeus> with soul
  501. [2011-11-20 13:23:57] <Arkeus> not just to soul
  502. [2011-11-20 13:24:09] <Arkeus> Yeah
  503. [2011-11-20 13:24:20] <Arkeus> Anyway, can someone make a new post for that?
  504. [2011-11-20 13:24:30] <Arkeus> I can't edit, nor can Ironybot
  505. [2011-11-20 13:25:12] <Ironybot> We are both perfectly capable of coming up with new constructive points and posting them together with any desired SUSTs as a second post, though.
  506. [2011-11-20 13:25:55] <Arkeus> Not... at ALL what I was expecting-but I can work with it.
  507. [2011-11-20 13:25:55] <Arkeus> "Be fair-just because I'm bad at it doesn't mean I'm averse to physical combat-I do rather regularly make attempts."
  508. [2011-11-20 13:25:55] <Arkeus> I frown in thought.
  509. [2011-11-20 13:25:55] <Arkeus> "...Actually I think there's a bit of a clear correlation between me getting in a close quarter's fight-and me getting respectably wounded. ...Huh. The POINT, though, is that I just happen to like beating things up with words and fists and weapons. I hope to soon add 'and with my shadow' to that soon enough, actually. Think of me as an equal opportunity ass-kicker.... that's just not that
  510. [2011-11-20 13:25:55] <Arkeus> good at the actual literal ass-kicking." <= Sometimes bob crack me up
  511. [2011-11-20 13:26:28] <Ironybot> Who were we talking to at that point?
  512. [2011-11-20 13:26:59] <Arkeus> If someone could try and make a good reasoning on EXACTLY how to try to merge our kas pin/SotG/Soul-Sensing/Attention/Hearing/Chakra-from-Ito it could be interesting, yes
  513. [2011-11-20 13:27:08] <Arkeus> Ironybot: still the two bros
  514. [2011-11-20 13:27:49] <InsufferableMystic> Fluidity
  515. [2011-11-20 13:27:54] <InsufferableMystic> Sliping and sliding
  516. [2011-11-20 13:28:14] <InsufferableMystic> Then Icy stabs
  517. [2011-11-20 13:28:17] <Arkeus> Yes, but also the frame of mind Armas must get
  518. [2011-11-20 13:28:40] <Alratan> Kas Pin/SotG is obvious
  519. [2011-11-20 13:28:43] <Arkeus> Also, the steps he must go to in order to do that
  520. [2011-11-20 13:28:43] <InsufferableMystic> Water and Ice and lightning is what his mind must be
  521. [2011-11-20 13:28:49] <Arkeus> :-)
  522. [2011-11-20 13:28:52] <InsufferableMystic> A fighting style of the Storm
  523. [2011-11-20 13:28:56] <Alratan> although we need to spar with Hillevi
  524. [2011-11-20 13:29:01] <Arkeus> Alratan: yes, the problem is in addign hearing and chakra
  525. [2011-11-20 13:29:44] <Alratan> hearing is, I think impossible for now
  526. [2011-11-20 13:30:00] <Alratan> we need to get more training from the goblins for that
  527. [2011-11-20 13:30:45] <Ironybot> You know, Camella didn't actually promise to keep what we told her to herself. Unless she did so implicitly, anyway; all she said was "I'll make any promise I have to if it means you'll give straight answers."- without actually making any promise.
  528. [2011-11-20 13:30:59] <Alratan> IronyBot: yes
  529. [2011-11-20 13:31:01] <Ironybot> Paranoia demands that we fix that.
  530. [2011-11-20 13:31:05] <Alratan> she made no promises at all
  531. [2011-11-20 13:31:21] <Ironybot> I am very surprised that Armas, adept of goblinic dealing, didn't pick up on that right away.
  532. [2011-11-20 13:31:36] <Arkeus> Alratan: our hearing is flat superhuman right now
  533. [2011-11-20 13:31:40] <Alratan> and
  534. [2011-11-20 13:31:46] <Alratan> what dioes that has to do with anything at all
  535. [2011-11-20 13:31:59] <Arkeus> Ironybot: we don't have power to enforce promises
  536. [2011-11-20 13:32:03] <Alratan> the Attention sense is about reading observers soul
  537. [2011-11-20 13:32:09] <Arkeus> So having her say she'll make any necessary promises is enough
  538. [2011-11-20 13:32:17] <Alratan> nothing at all to do with how well we hear ourselves
  539. [2011-11-20 13:32:24] <Ironybot> It doesn't matter if we have the power to enforce promises or not; the act of making the promise still carries a metaphysical significance.
  540. [2011-11-20 13:32:28] <Arkeus> Alratan, i am talking about how we can SEE souls
  541. [2011-11-20 13:32:33] <Arkeus> we should be able ot HEAR them too
  542. [2011-11-20 13:32:47] <Alratan> We need to use M7
  543. [2011-11-20 13:32:48] <Arkeus> and from that we could have triple-links with attention
  544. [2011-11-20 13:33:06] <Alratan> to convince ourselves that our soul sense isn't seeing
  545. [2011-11-20 13:33:08] <Ironybot> Amongst other things, being able to honestly call the violating party an oathbreaker if they don't keep to their word is rather important.
  546. [2011-11-20 13:33:10] <Alratan> it's healing
  547. [2011-11-20 13:33:16] <Alratan> sorry
  548. [2011-11-20 13:33:21] <Alratan> it's not hearing either
  549. [2011-11-20 13:33:33] <Alratan> but we can use any existing sense as a metaphor for it
  550. [2011-11-20 13:33:49] <Arkeus> indeed
  551. [2011-11-20 13:34:04] <Arkeus> Ironybot: yes, but i am sure that she did promise it
  552. [2011-11-20 13:34:09] <Arkeus> just not in the dialog we saw
  553. [2011-11-20 13:34:13] <Arkeus> We'll ask bob, though
  554. [2011-11-20 13:34:51] <Arkeus> Alratan: yes, the thing i am thinking of is having hearing/attention/sight all three working to feel souls
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  556. [2011-11-20 13:35:02] <Arkeus> And maybe gettign it from three way at once will improve how it goes
  557. [2011-11-20 13:35:09] <Arkeus> more 'range'
  558. [2011-11-20 13:35:12] <InsufferableMystic> What was the eye chakra called?
  559. [2011-11-20 13:35:43] <InsufferableMystic> The Third Eye Chakra, I'mma going to try get us another eye
  560. [2011-11-20 13:35:56] <Arkeus> The Devil Eye, huh
  561. [2011-11-20 13:36:10] <Alratan> We really need to replace the missing perception from our second eye
  562. [2011-11-20 13:36:33] <InsufferableMystic> Three eyes makes two
  563. [2011-11-20 13:36:52] <InsufferableMystic> But what is that chakra called?
  564. [2011-11-20 13:37:11] <Alratan> ajna
  565. [2011-11-20 13:38:39] <Ironybot> I was hoping at one point that we could exploit that chakra's association with intuition to get ever so slightly precognitive. Didn't work out, unfortunately.
  566. [2011-11-20 13:38:52] <Ironybot> Now I'm left wondering where we can dredge up a prophecy spirit.
  567. [2011-11-20 13:39:29] <Arkeus> Ironybot: huh, it sort of seems to could work
  568. [2011-11-20 13:39:33] <Arkeus> it's just we don't know enough
  569. [2011-11-20 13:40:02] <Arkeus> Also, maybe we shouldn't completely cut off SB from chakra gain as he is recovering right now
  570. [2011-11-20 13:40:09] <Alratan> tough
  571. [2011-11-20 13:40:20] <Alratan> he's a big boy now
  572. [2011-11-20 13:40:27] <Alratan> he has his own chakra system and everything
  573. [2011-11-20 13:41:15] <Guile> he's a big boy, but he was put through the ringer just recently, and it behooves us to get him back up to speed and recovered as quickly as possible
  574. [2011-11-20 13:41:30] <Alratan> no, it behooves him to get himself back to speed
  575. [2011-11-20 13:41:44] <Alratan> {insert Randian quote here}
  576. [2011-11-20 13:41:52] <Guile> Wayward Wednesday, dude. I dont think its over yet.
  577. [2011-11-20 13:41:57] <Ironybot> He's our brother. It would be appropriate to watch his back.
  578. [2011-11-20 13:42:04] <Guile> I'd be a lot more comfortable with SB at our back again
  579. [2011-11-20 13:43:20] <Alratan> SB is, I think out of action for the rest of today whatever happens
  580. [2011-11-20 13:43:40] <InsufferableMystic> I only need the eye one and a torso and arm ones, he can have our crotch and legs
  581. [2011-11-20 13:43:48] <Arkeus> :-)
  582. [2011-11-20 13:43:49] <Guile> ...?
  583. [2011-11-20 13:43:51] <Arkeus> Good Good
  584. [2011-11-20 13:44:09] <Guile> But we never know when we might need the Muladra!
  585. [2011-11-20 13:44:10] <InsufferableMystic> Though it'd be better to fully focus... Ah
  586. [2011-11-20 13:44:32] <Guile> Left-hand Tantric rituals might have some real 'oomph' here
  587. [2011-11-20 13:44:49] <InsufferableMystic> Shadow, water, ice and lightening I can work with
  588. [2011-11-20 13:45:04] <Guile> also, guess I need to go back and see what weapons we're familiar with from kas pin
  589. [2011-11-20 13:45:10] <InsufferableMystic> Give me the nature of some chakra I'll connect them
  590. [2011-11-20 13:45:11] <Guile> to see how it might be integrated into SotG
  591. [2011-11-20 13:45:12] <Alratan> SB, as I say, does not need us to divert any chakra power to us
  592. [2011-11-20 13:46:06] <Arkeus> His scarred and oft-broken hand claps about my skull, blocking my vision, his fingers covering my ears as I go blind and deaf. I feel... something, tugging, pulling, prodding at my mind-and I heed Einrik's words, offering this other presence no resistance. I feel something not unlike a sharp headache-and start remembering things that never happened. Day after day spent working with puukko
  593. [2011-11-20 13:46:06] <Arkeus> and bear-spear, with sword and karttu, with cane and remmi. Night after night spent working in swamps and marshes, learning how to move more efficiently, tiring myself to exhaustion again and again as I ground that innate sense of how to move into my body. Months of working on Hipaisu, striking at nerve targets on dummies and eventually fellow disciples. I remember week upon week of working
  594. [2011-11-20 13:46:06] <Arkeus> with knife and spear, club and sickle, sword and staff, over and over facing foe after foe, spar after spar. I recall these fights that never were, with foes lacking faces, with stark and burning clarity, the familiarity of the styles movements burning new muscle memory into my body. Lastly, I feel several months, the sense of training... different, more modern-memories of working with a
  595. [2011-11-20 13:46:06] <Arkeus> bayonet, a style wholly different from my Taiahan experiment and limited Jukenjitsu training-and I soak it up like a sponge. Years of training, dozens, each and every bit of it impossibly intense, completely nonstop, a monstrous regime no normal human could complete-and I remember them, those years of false memory.
  596. [2011-11-20 13:46:17] <Arkeus> here guile
  597. [2011-11-20 13:46:21] <InsufferableMystic> Lower chakras
  598. [2011-11-20 13:46:28] <InsufferableMystic> Awesome
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  600. [2011-11-20 13:47:04] <Guile> thanks Ark
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  602. [2011-11-20 13:47:30] <InsufferableMystic> Mahatala : Located in the feet, this is the dark realm 'without conscience', and inner blindness.
  603. [2011-11-20 13:47:41] <Guile> I was going back over the vacation arc. Its hilarious that we almost gained 'Earnestness level 1' trait, but then realized it worked much better if we just faked it all
  604. [2011-11-20 13:47:55] <Guile> we're already a grand master in that one, I think
  605. [2011-11-20 13:47:59] <Arkeus> yeah
  606. [2011-11-20 13:48:53] <Alratan> The Kas Pin training should, presumably, by a Level 3 combat trait on its own
  607. [2011-11-20 13:49:11] <Arkeus> Seems my instincts were right-so long as I put in self-effacing commentary, the fact I divulged information that normally I'd want to tactically withhold doesn't bother me-though only be dint of my own confidence the twins didn't pick up on it. ...I see now why Einrik feels he can't leave it to his brothers.... not exactly the brightest I've met. ...Oh well, doesn't make them bad people-and
  608. [2011-11-20 13:49:11] <Arkeus> I CAN'T make any retard-strength jokes, even though the fact I stand a good chance of saying it to their faces without them grasping it if I do it right nigh-irresistible.
  609. [2011-11-20 13:49:11] <Arkeus> -My shadow feels sad.
  610. [2011-11-20 13:49:11] <Arkeus> ...NO Retard jokes, dammit.
  611. [2011-11-20 13:49:11] <Arkeus> -I was not previously aware you could feel something pouting-but I feel my shadow pout here and now.
  612. [2011-11-20 13:49:13] <Arkeus> Aahahahahha
  613. [2011-11-20 13:49:26] <Arkeus> Alratan: multiple level 3s, i would say
  614. [2011-11-20 13:50:09] <Arkeus> That's why Kas Pin + SotG + Chakra + Soul sense + Trying to tie that in recurve fashion to hearing could net us a increase right here
  615. [2011-11-20 13:50:21] <Arkeus> Especially if we tie it to something Devil Punny
  616. [2011-11-20 13:50:27] <Arkeus> As 366666
  617. [2011-11-20 13:51:19] <Alratan> I'm much, much more interested in trying to leverage our ability to read where people are going to look next into an ability to read where they're going to attack next
  618. [2011-11-20 13:51:39] <Guile> I think bob said we were level 4 with piercing weapons, level 2 with slashing
  619. [2011-11-20 13:51:50] <Arkeus> Also TIM, we now have 92 95% percentile Human flexibility (we got a 270% increase since beginning of the game), so feel free to use 'flexibility'
  620. [2011-11-20 13:51:58] <Arkeus> Guile: three piercing
  621. [2011-11-20 13:52:03] <Arkeus> which is 'master'
  622. [2011-11-20 13:52:07] <Alratan> which is a shame, as virtually all our weapons are actually primarily slashing weapons
  623. [2011-11-20 13:52:18] <Arkeus> But that was BEFORE kas pin
  624. [2011-11-20 13:52:32] <Arkeus> and Kas Pin did have sickle combat, for example
  625. [2011-11-20 13:52:45] <Alratan> the mere and Silja's sword bayonet are designed to slash with
  626. [2011-11-20 13:52:56] <Alratan> although they can make piercing attacks as well
  627. [2011-11-20 13:55:31] <Arkeus> Guile made no comments about Dkay wanting to give Files to Amen, huh. Nor about Inviting Camella to stay at our place
  628. [2011-11-20 13:55:53] <Guile> Ill be deleting and reposting eventually anyhow
  629. [2011-11-20 13:56:07] <Guile> once I work out how Kas Pin integrates with SotG
  630. [2011-11-20 13:56:10] <Alratan> I will do though
  631. [2011-11-20 13:56:18] <Ironybot> I am hoping that if we work at it, we will be able to move from being able to read others' attention into being able to direct others' attention. That is, master trying to pull their focus to different things.
  632. [2011-11-20 13:56:37] <Ironybot> We did a little bit of that with the Reaper, and it proved its value right there.
  633. [2011-11-20 13:57:04] <Ironybot> Drag their attention to the left hand, they don't see the right hand with the knife or the grenade or what have you.
  634. [2011-11-20 13:57:36] <Guile> right
  635. [2011-11-20 13:57:46] <Guile> thats kinda what I was trying to say with the Camella spar
  636. [2011-11-20 13:57:48] <Arkeus> <Ironybot> I am hoping that if we work at it, we will be able to move from being able to read others' attention into being able to direct others' attention. That is, master trying to pull their focus to different things. <= indeed
  637. [2011-11-20 13:57:54] <Guile> except poorly
  638. [2011-11-20 13:57:56] <Ironybot> At the moment, we merely treat Attention as something to be avoided- we need to treat it as something to be controlled.
  639. [2011-11-20 13:58:13] <Alratan> or interacted with more generally
  640. [2011-11-20 13:58:19] <Arkeus> That we do, and trying to do that in a controlled environement right now could be very, very good
  641. [2011-11-20 13:58:23] <Alratan> we need to learn to distinguish different kinds of Attention
  642. [2011-11-20 13:58:29] <Alratan> different motives
  643. [2011-11-20 13:58:39] <Arkeus> Oh, RIGHT
  644. [2011-11-20 13:58:48] <Alratan> are they going to pay attention to an area because they are going to attack there
  645. [2011-11-20 13:59:02] <Alratan> or are they going to because they fear you will be and they want to defend
  646. [2011-11-20 13:59:04] <Arkeus> TIM: Maybe have a mention on how we were able to sense the Dragons' attention even though they utterly outclassed us
  647. [2011-11-20 13:59:26] <Arkeus> So it seems our Attention-sense is almost good enough to deal with their weak grasp of their own focus
  648. [2011-11-20 13:59:47] <Arkeus> Try to elaborate on how it is possible when we couldn't see their souls
  649. [2011-11-20 13:59:50] <Arkeus> etc
  650. [2011-11-20 13:59:57] <Alratan> hmm, yes, a loophole in the soul power limitations
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  652. [2011-11-20 14:00:30] <Arkeus> Yes, it possible our attention sense could be used to pierce other people's much stronger ability
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  657. [2011-11-20 14:08:18] <Alratan> I know people will be sceptical about this, but given how we utterly lack the resources to reverse engineer either the Reaper charms or the Repaer gun, and don't have the very high precision manufacturing equipment or magical skills to make them even if we did know how, should we add them to the auction for Mammon's Device
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  660. [2011-11-20 14:09:07] <Arkeus> We talked about this last night
  661. [2011-11-20 14:09:19] <Arkeus> I believe adding reaper charm + souls + Blood is a bad end
  662. [2011-11-20 14:09:26] <Alratan> why
  663. [2011-11-20 14:09:33] <Alratan> we have SM as a cut out
  664. [2011-11-20 14:09:36] <Arkeus> Ironybot was thinking about selling them to SM, but he can't access them for 3 years
  665. [2011-11-20 14:09:54] <Alratan> we certainly can't admit that we're the seller
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  667. [2011-11-20 14:10:05] <Arkeus> Alratan: Bad End in the sense that it may REALLy give far too much power too quickly
  668. [2011-11-20 14:10:16] <Alratan> I really don't understand
  669. [2011-11-20 14:10:17] <Arkeus> mmmh, point, SM can't say who is the seller anyway
  670. [2011-11-20 14:10:49] <Arkeus> Another problem is selling a Soul
  671. [2011-11-20 14:10:56] <Arkeus> it's... not something people like
  672. [2011-11-20 14:10:58] <Arkeus> at All
  673. [2011-11-20 14:11:04] <Alratan> Remember what Einrik told us about the fate of most souls?
  674. [2011-11-20 14:11:07] <Arkeus> So they might not be willing to buy it
  675. [2011-11-20 14:11:19] <Arkeus> Yes, but it doesn't matter- people don't like that
  676. [2011-11-20 14:11:30] <Alratan> how they're used to make items etc
  677. [2011-11-20 14:11:37] <Alratan> they can't not like it that much
  678. [2011-11-20 14:12:01] <Samar> If we had the chance and he made an offer of BILLIONS, would you guys sell Blackbeard MD?
  679. [2011-11-20 14:12:01] <Alratan> otherwise virtually all souls wouldn't end up gettign eaten or used as craft raw materials
  680. [2011-11-20 14:12:16] <Alratan> yes
  681. [2011-11-20 14:12:31] <Alratan> I'd also arrange for him to be jumped when he came to collect
  682. [2011-11-20 14:12:36] <Alratan> and sell it to someone else
  683. [2011-11-20 14:13:28] <Arkeus> <Alratan> otherwise virtually all souls wouldn't end up gettign eaten or used as craft raw materials <= they don't
  684. [2011-11-20 14:13:36] <Arkeus> Virtually all souls end up being eaten by nevernever
  685. [2011-11-20 14:13:44] <Arkeus> very, very few end up being used for materials
  686. [2011-11-20 14:13:50] <Arkeus> and beings who do that are hated
  687. [2011-11-20 14:13:57] <Arkeus> KoS hated
  688. [2011-11-20 14:14:58] <InsufferableMystic> huh, my id has changed
  689. [2011-11-20 14:15:14] <InsufferableMystic> Hmm
  690. [2011-11-20 14:15:15] <Alratan> "When you die, your soul is released. Whole bunch of different things can happen to a soul from there. They can be consumed, spiritually erased, absorbed, trapped, used to build a spell-all sorts of things. If a soul avoids any of that, then before all that long, it will be re-absorbed by the Nevernever, reclaiming the magical energy in it. In the process the soul itself is unmade, so while
  691. [2011-11-20 14:15:15] <Alratan> it takes longer it's the same thing as erasing a soul-and is the most common fate for souls."
  692. [2011-11-20 14:15:24] <Alratan> that doesn't sound like very few, at all
  693. [2011-11-20 14:15:26] <InsufferableMystic> Perhaps I should try get 777
  694. [2011-11-20 14:15:32] <Ironybot> It can't hurt.
  695. [2011-11-20 14:15:38] <Ironybot> Always good to try for fun numbers.
  696. [2011-11-20 14:15:40] <Arkeus> can't hurt
  697. [2011-11-20 14:15:45] <Fargist_The_Fifth> You should, IM
  698. [2011-11-20 14:15:46] *Global* [Logon News - May 21 2011] First time on Rizon? Be sure to read the FAQ! http://s.rizon.net/FAQ
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  700. [2011-11-20 14:15:46] *Global* [Random News - Mar 20 2009] For the latest Rizon News like our upcoming Game Services Check out http://www.rizon.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=2 -Rizon Staff.
  701. [2011-11-20 14:15:46] *NickServ* This nickname is registered and protected. If it is your
  702. [2011-11-20 14:15:46] *NickServ* nick, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password. Otherwise,
  703. [2011-11-20 14:15:46] *NickServ* please choose a different nick.
  704. [2011-11-20 14:15:56] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Your ID ends with a 77, if I remember correctly
  705. [2011-11-20 14:16:02] <Fargist_The_Fifth> So jelly
  706. [2011-11-20 14:16:05] <Arkeus> and it's extremely soon, too
  707. [2011-11-20 14:16:24] <Arkeus> POST
  708. [2011-11-20 14:16:31] <Arkeus> InsufferableMystic
  709. [2011-11-20 14:16:34] <Arkeus> POST
  710. [2011-11-20 14:16:51] <InsufferableMystic> Got iy
  711. [2011-11-20 14:16:52] <Fargist_The_Fifth> POST
  712. [2011-11-20 14:16:52] <Arkeus> lol, both of you did
  713. [2011-11-20 14:17:00] <Ironybot> Looks like you snagged it.
  714. [2011-11-20 14:17:13] <Fargist_The_Fifth> ?gfh
  715. [2011-11-20 14:17:17] <Samar> 66666 was missed then?
  716. [2011-11-20 14:17:28] <Ironybot> Nope, we got that too.
  717. [2011-11-20 14:17:30] <Fargist_The_Fifth> GREED, bring back Classhole
  718. [2011-11-20 14:17:37] <Ironybot> And 366663.
  719. [2011-11-20 14:17:39] <Fargist_The_Fifth> !! WE HAVE 66666?!
  720. [2011-11-20 14:17:46] <Fargist_The_Fifth> AND 366663?!
  721. [2011-11-20 14:17:51] <Alratan> do we expect to have Bob on tonight?
  722. [2011-11-20 14:17:54] <Fargist_The_Fifth> OH DEAR GOD GREED, GIMME BACK CLASSHOLE
  723. [2011-11-20 14:17:55] =-= User mode for Ironybot is now +r
  724. [2011-11-20 14:17:55] *NickServ* Password accepted - you are now recognized.
  725. [2011-11-20 14:18:08] * InsufferableMystic slaps Fargist
  726. [2011-11-20 14:18:15] <Fargist_The_Fifth> :<
  727. [2011-11-20 14:18:29] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Or...someone could post the link
  728. [2011-11-20 14:18:29] <Ironybot> We also got 366555, so if we get one more triple we can have a triple triple, which might be worth something.
  729. [2011-11-20 14:18:55] <Arkeus> we got 366777
  730. [2011-11-20 14:19:05] <Guile> lord, we're going to meet Mammon
  731. [2011-11-20 14:19:10] <Arkeus> ^^;
  732. [2011-11-20 14:19:10] <Alratan> I want 366999
  733. [2011-11-20 14:19:19] <Arkeus> Alratan: what did you edit?
  734. [2011-11-20 14:19:48] <Arkeus> Guile: fanart?
  735. [2011-11-20 14:19:49] <Arkeus> :p
  736. [2011-11-20 14:19:55] <Alratan> Arkesu: all the SUSTs, what to do when we spar, and what else to do in the gym
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  738. [2011-11-20 14:20:35] <Captain-Lightning> I have no idea why he's disconnecting so often
  739. [2011-11-20 14:20:57] <Captain-Lightning> I think my VPS is having connectivity issues
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  742. [2011-11-20 14:22:21] <Arkeus> Alratan: i also saw a bit about hearing/soul
  743. [2011-11-20 14:22:24] <Arkeus> cool
  744. [2011-11-20 14:22:26] =-= Samar_ is now known as Samar
  745. [2011-11-20 14:22:37] <Arkeus> .tell TheBeardiestBob I am sure this will be familiar to you: http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/humor/8e6c/images/2070/
  746. [2011-11-20 14:22:38] <Classhole> Arkeus: I'll pass that along.
  747. [2011-11-20 14:22:54] <MrTT> what was that indie game that sold 10 times more on PC than console?
  748. [2011-11-20 14:22:56] <MrTT> something in steam
  749. [2011-11-20 14:23:01] <MrTT> i bought it on pc
  750. [2011-11-20 14:23:03] <Arkeus> Magicka?
  751. [2011-11-20 14:23:04] <MrTT> i can't remember its name
  752. [2011-11-20 14:23:07] <MrTT> maybe
  753. [2011-11-20 14:23:08] <MrTT> sounds familiar
  754. [2011-11-20 14:24:21] <Fargist_The_Fifth> My god, Palindrome, 66666, triple triples...
  755. [2011-11-20 14:24:31] <Fargist_The_Fifth> This is going to be one heck of an update
  756. [2011-11-20 14:24:37] <Ironybot> We don't actually have the triple triple yet.
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  758. [2011-11-20 14:24:47] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Oh, LOOK AT THAT TIMING
  759. [2011-11-20 14:24:56] <Ironybot> But assuming we have another hundred posts or so to work with we'll grab it.
  760. [2011-11-20 14:25:26] <Alratan> As I say above, it's 366999 that will be interesting
  761. [2011-11-20 14:25:35] <Ironybot> We can grab that too.
  762. [2011-11-20 14:25:44] <Samar> mirror world!
  763. [2011-11-20 14:25:47] <Alratan> we'll probably have time
  764. [2011-11-20 14:25:55] <Alratan> I don't expect Bob to post tonight
  765. [2011-11-20 14:25:56] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Fuck year mirror worlds
  766. [2011-11-20 14:26:00] <MrTT> also madness wedness
  767. [2011-11-20 14:26:03] <MrTT> wednesday
  768. [2011-11-20 14:26:10] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Fuck year madness
  769. [2011-11-20 14:26:10] <Alratan> wayward wednesday
  770. [2011-11-20 14:26:12] <Ironybot> Wayward. Wayward Wednesday.
  771. [2011-11-20 14:26:19] <Ironybot> Madness optional.
  772. [2011-11-20 14:26:19] <Arkeus> hey bob
  773. [2011-11-20 14:26:36] <Alratan> evening
  774. [2011-11-20 14:26:40] <Guile> Not so sure its optional, irony
  775. [2011-11-20 14:26:49] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Madness=Obligatory
  776. [2011-11-20 14:26:55] <Alratan> not really
  777. [2011-11-20 14:27:02] <Alratan> that's evil
  778. [2011-11-20 14:28:07] <Guile> damn it, I cant decide which video to link in my post; kas pin, or meteor hammer
  779. [2011-11-20 14:28:34] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Meteor hammer?
  780. [2011-11-20 14:28:47] <Ironybot> Weapon. Like two giant balls on a chain, if I recall correctly.
  781. [2011-11-20 14:28:53] <Ironybot> Lighting it on fire optional.
  782. [2011-11-20 14:29:28] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Link Kas Pin
  783. [2011-11-20 14:29:29] <Guile> near as I can tell, the remmi works either like a whip, a rope dart, or most likely, a shaolin meteor hammer
  784. [2011-11-20 14:29:30] <InsufferableMystic> I love flexible weaponry
  785. [2011-11-20 14:29:49] <Guile> it was part of the kas pin download
  786. [2011-11-20 14:30:11] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Wait a sec, Kas Pin actually exists?
  787. [2011-11-20 14:30:13] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Holy fuck
  788. [2011-11-20 14:30:15] <Guile> yup
  789. [2011-11-20 14:30:22] <Guile> there's a Valkonen head and everything
  790. [2011-11-20 14:30:28] <Guile> he is not, regrettably, Markku
  791. [2011-11-20 14:31:01] <TheBeardiestBob> I am currently midway through an update, at the end of which you will still be at Ito's.
  792. [2011-11-20 14:31:16] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Woohoo errors
  793. [2011-11-20 14:31:19] <Alratan> Hmm, we were also trained in knife and spear, club and sickle, sword and staff, as well as with nerve strikes
  794. [2011-11-20 14:31:40] <InsufferableMystic> Oooo Update in the works!
  795. [2011-11-20 14:31:50] <InsufferableMystic> Thanks Bob
  796. [2011-11-20 14:31:58] <TheBeardiestBob> The real life Valkonens are those that got kicked out of the magic blooded family for not inheriting magic over the years.
  797. [2011-11-20 14:32:00] <Ironybot> Hrm. Did the SUST of 366745 go through?
  798. [2011-11-20 14:32:00] <Fargist_The_Fifth> WAit, midway?
  799. [2011-11-20 14:32:16] <Fargist_The_Fifth> It's gotta be a really short update
  800. [2011-11-20 14:32:19] <Alratan> Well, I posted it
  801. [2011-11-20 14:32:24] <TheBeardiestBob> You and Arkeus are already dominating the update for palendrome and five of a kind, respectively.
  802. [2011-11-20 14:32:43] <Arkeus> <TheBeardiestBob> I am currently midway through an update, at the end of which you will still be at Ito's. <= hah
  803. [2011-11-20 14:32:53] <Alratan> I take it my scripted bits were insufficient pull
  804. [2011-11-20 14:33:04] <InsufferableMystic> Will my insufferably mystic post get much use?
  805. [2011-11-20 14:33:06] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: did you see IM an Alratan's edits?
  806. [2011-11-20 14:33:10] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Will IM's post go through?
  807. [2011-11-20 14:33:19] <Alratan> away from the great gravitational force of the numermancy
  808. [2011-11-20 14:33:30] <InsufferableMystic> 42
  809. [2011-11-20 14:33:33] <Ironybot> We were playing with numbers and aiming for the triple triple in addition to the palindrome and five of a kind, but it seems that we won't be able to make it.
  810. [2011-11-20 14:33:41] <Arkeus> Yeah
  811. [2011-11-20 14:33:41] <InsufferableMystic> 1 + 1 = 11
  812. [2011-11-20 14:33:42] <Fargist_The_Fifth> It's sad
  813. [2011-11-20 14:33:49] <Fargist_The_Fifth> No
  814. [2011-11-20 14:33:51] <Fargist_The_Fifth> It's Fish
  815. [2011-11-20 14:33:56] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Everyone knows 1+1=Fish
  816. [2011-11-20 14:34:02] <Alratan> and my post on how to build on Attention sensing now seems a bit wasted
  817. [2011-11-20 14:34:04] <Fargist_The_Fifth> :c
  818. [2011-11-20 14:34:08] <Alratan> will have to repost another time
  819. [2011-11-20 14:34:09] * Fargist_The_Fifth flops around like a fish
  820. [2011-11-20 14:34:55] <Guile> error code 402. damn it, maybe it wont let me link youtube videos right now?
  821. [2011-11-20 14:35:37] <Arkeus> Guile: it did that yesterday
  822. [2011-11-20 14:35:38] <Guile> halfway through the video, he REALLY starts to move. Jaa Koura Kas Pin must be a monster. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P22Voo36m8I
  823. [2011-11-20 14:35:39] <Classhole> Guile: Kas-pin - length 1m 21s - rated 3.32/5.0 (38) - 27221 views - TehS1gma on 2006.12.18
  824. [2011-11-20 14:35:45] <Arkeus> trying pm'ing the video to bob
  825. [2011-11-20 14:36:13] <Arkeus> Guile: and, yeah, Armas can do all thart
  826. [2011-11-20 14:36:30] <Fargist_The_Fifth> That's pretty sweet
  827. [2011-11-20 14:37:11] <Guile> good luck trying to follow that little bit of metal when he's changing grips and hands and keeping your attention with the off hand
  828. [2011-11-20 14:37:52] <Arkeus> Which is how Armas should try to confound people with Kas Pin more
  829. [2011-11-20 14:38:24] <Fargist_The_Fifth> But first of all, we need to integrate it into SoTG
  830. [2011-11-20 14:38:29] <Ironybot> Why "with Kas Pin", specifically? He need to integrate his military arts, not use them individually.
  831. [2011-11-20 14:38:42] <Alratan> I prefer the confounding approach of them not knowing you're there until they feel your sword entering their back
  832. [2011-11-20 14:39:13] <Guile> LINE and Krav Maga are unarmed styles, or at least I think thats how he learned them. I wanted to integrate Kas Pin with his mere and bayonet styles
  833. [2011-11-20 14:39:37] <Alratan> Krav Maga isn't actually that useful against non-human opponents
  834. [2011-11-20 14:40:03] <Alratan> the kinds of techniques it uses simply wouldn't work on enemies who are disproportionately strong or tough for their size
  835. [2011-11-20 14:40:04] <Arkeus> Ironybot: with the kas pin part
  836. [2011-11-20 14:40:26] <InsufferableMystic> Krav Maga is too spesific for disabling/killing humans
  837. [2011-11-20 14:40:31] <InsufferableMystic> That said
  838. [2011-11-20 14:40:45] <InsufferableMystic> Anything humanoid without regen is fair game
  839. [2011-11-20 14:40:50] <Alratan> not really
  840. [2011-11-20 14:40:59] <Alratan> if they have superhuman strength or toughness
  841. [2011-11-20 14:41:03] <Alratan> it doesn't really work
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  843. [2011-11-20 14:41:15] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I wonder
  844. [2011-11-20 14:41:23] <Ironybot> Unfortunately, a huge number of military arts that focus on close-in fighting or grappling aren't going to be terribly effective against opponents with unnatural strength or toughness. But there's little to be done about that.
  845. [2011-11-20 14:41:25] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Can our physical body still be scarred?
  846. [2011-11-20 14:41:35] <Ironybot> It shouldn't be able to.
  847. [2011-11-20 14:41:41] <Guile> I still say joint locks should be fairly effective
  848. [2011-11-20 14:41:51] <Ironybot> Scars are a product of imperfect healing- our healing is perfect.
  849. [2011-11-20 14:42:13] <Guile> take THAT, einherjar healing. In your FACE, you imperfect knockoff
  850. [2011-11-20 14:42:34] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Yeah, but if we ever get cancer, we're done for
  851. [2011-11-20 14:42:52] <Arkeus> We'll have to find ways to counter that, yes
  852. [2011-11-20 14:43:04] <InsufferableMystic> Little to be done but have supernaturally sharp weapons/hands Irony
  853. [2011-11-20 14:43:05] <Fargist_The_Fifth> We'll never become Bang ;_;
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  855. [2011-11-20 14:43:29] <Alratan> That's why I pushed the idea of Jukentitsu in the first place
  856. [2011-11-20 14:43:39] <Guile> Einrik might be, tho
  857. [2011-11-20 14:44:10] <Alratan> against supernatural opponents, you need the range and massive damage that a swung polearm can inflict, thanks to its angulat momentum
  858. [2011-11-20 14:44:15] <Arkeus> Fargist_The_Fifth: Bang is not as interesting to play as Armas
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  860. [2011-11-20 14:44:27] <InsufferableMystic> Bang is funny to play
  861. [2011-11-20 14:44:34] <Arkeus> Funny, yes
  862. [2011-11-20 14:44:35] <Alratan> too silly
  863. [2011-11-20 14:44:38] <Arkeus> But Armas is funny too
  864. [2011-11-20 14:44:43] <Arkeus> Armas has Interesting
  865. [2011-11-20 14:44:48] <Arkeus> Bang... not so much
  866. [2011-11-20 14:44:49] <InsufferableMystic> Armas is "oh no we are going to die" Interesting
  867. [2011-11-20 14:44:54] <InsufferableMystic> I like Bang
  868. [2011-11-20 14:45:00] <Ironybot> Yet someone we haven't died yet.
  869. [2011-11-20 14:45:01] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Who doesn't?
  870. [2011-11-20 14:45:07] <Ironybot> Somehow. Damn.
  871. [2011-11-20 14:45:24] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I wonder if the Grim Reaper holds a grudge against us
  872. [2011-11-20 14:45:38] <Fargist_The_Fifth> 'This fucker always escapes my grasp at the last second'
  873. [2011-11-20 14:45:45] <Arkeus> We are somehow more cautious than could be thought of at first
  874. [2011-11-20 14:45:53] <Arkeus> But that's not saying much
  875. [2011-11-20 14:45:55] <InsufferableMystic> The ability to keep the threat of death real while our character not dead is good writing on Bob's part
  876. [2011-11-20 14:46:05] <Arkeus> Yes
  877. [2011-11-20 14:46:06] <InsufferableMystic> Skin of our teeth on our part
  878. [2011-11-20 14:46:10] <Guile> grail may be right about border/rom pissing off the Grim Reaper. "Now all his friends are immune, too! Fuck this, I'm going up there,"
  879. [2011-11-20 14:46:18] <Arkeus> He constantly pit us against higher leve neemies
  880. [2011-11-20 14:46:30] <InsufferableMystic> Not always
  881. [2011-11-20 14:46:32] <Alratan> I think that's because we can't leave well enough alone
  882. [2011-11-20 14:46:33] <Arkeus> Guile: ahah
  883. [2011-11-20 14:46:42] <InsufferableMystic> We have bad match ups Ark
  884. [2011-11-20 14:46:45] <Arkeus> InsufferableMystic: almost always
  885. [2011-11-20 14:46:52] <Arkeus> And we have good match up
  886. [2011-11-20 14:46:56] <InsufferableMystic> Yes
  887. [2011-11-20 14:46:58] <Alratan> We just need to plan more and better (or at all)
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  889. [2011-11-20 14:47:01] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Nazeroth was pretty easy
  890. [2011-11-20 14:47:05] <Guile> If we were willing to cut and run more often, we may live longer
  891. [2011-11-20 14:47:10] <Guile> would have less loot, though
  892. [2011-11-20 14:47:13] <Arkeus> Fargist_The_Fifth: Kazedora
  893. [2011-11-20 14:47:16] <Alratan> and not just wander around aimlessly with a dozy expression on our faces
  894. [2011-11-20 14:47:22] <Arkeus> Guile: less XP too
  895. [2011-11-20 14:47:23] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Kazadora was bad :(
  896. [2011-11-20 14:47:31] <Fargist_The_Fifth> We should have retrieved our arm too
  897. [2011-11-20 14:47:35] <Arkeus> we did
  898. [2011-11-20 14:47:38] <Guile> we were kinda... busy
  899. [2011-11-20 14:47:40] <Alratan> the default answer to unexpected combat should be to run
  900. [2011-11-20 14:47:42] <InsufferableMystic> Lets not talk about Kazadora
  901. [2011-11-20 14:47:46] <Arkeus> we retrieved our arm
  902. [2011-11-20 14:47:51] <Arkeus> we just couldn't take all the blood
  903. [2011-11-20 14:47:51] <Guile> he sure got some of our blood, though
  904. [2011-11-20 14:47:52] <Alratan> we didn;t
  905. [2011-11-20 14:47:52] <Fargist_The_Fifth> No, only our gun
  906. [2011-11-20 14:47:58] <Arkeus> Arm too
  907. [2011-11-20 14:48:00] <Alratan> no
  908. [2011-11-20 14:48:03] <Alratan> we didn't
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  910. [2011-11-20 14:48:12] <Alratan> only the gun
  911. [2011-11-20 14:48:16] <Alratan> we only had one hand
  912. [2011-11-20 14:48:26] <Arkeus> I'll ask bob again later
  913. [2011-11-20 14:48:30] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I wanted us to dash out of there, gun in one hand, arm in the mouth
  914. [2011-11-20 14:48:33] <Arkeus> But i am pretty sure we did
  915. [2011-11-20 14:48:42] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Ark: Noap.
  916. [2011-11-20 14:50:31] <Arkeus> I'm still rebounding from slamming into the wall when I reach out for Keihäs with my left arm, jamming the stock down into the blood all around me even as I see new tendrils beginning to form.
  917. [2011-11-20 14:50:31] <Arkeus> Instead of being absorbed like normal, the blood catches on fire, engulfing my severed arm in the lurid lavender smokeless flames-which, magical or no, are still hot. I hardly even have to think about it before I'm leaping down the stares, sparing only a passing glance for my severed arm, flesh splitting and juices consumed as bones shatter and char far too swiftly. <= right, we destroyed
  918. [2011-11-20 14:50:31] <Arkeus> it
  919. [2011-11-20 14:50:48] <Alratan> we didn't destroy it
  920. [2011-11-20 14:50:58] <Alratan> the lavendar flames consumed it
  921. [2011-11-20 14:51:08] <Arkeus> KEihas
  922. [2011-11-20 14:51:09] <Ironybot> Yes, Kazedora tasted our blood but didn't actually leave the engagement with a sample.
  923. [2011-11-20 14:51:12] <Arkeus> Keihas did that
  924. [2011-11-20 14:51:17] <Alratan> we don't know what the magic flames do
  925. [2011-11-20 14:51:20] <Arkeus> Yeah, and he wants more
  926. [2011-11-20 14:51:21] <Alratan> or who controls them
  927. [2011-11-20 14:52:09] <Ironybot> Kazadora. Damn, got to get these names right. Anyway, our blood is delicious magic of both the divine and mortal varieties, so obviously anyone who gets some wants more.
  928. [2011-11-20 14:52:24] <Arkeus> DELICIOUS
  929. [2011-11-20 14:52:26] <Ironybot> Would wouldn't want to eat a magic-soaked godling?
  930. [2011-11-20 14:52:54] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Indeed
  931. [2011-11-20 14:52:59] <Alratan> you know, we are no more capable of killing or harming Kazadora than we were when we last met him
  932. [2011-11-20 14:53:05] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Also, I wonder if SB can survive our death now
  933. [2011-11-20 14:53:33] <Ironybot> That is false. Iron Trick and a now-more-powerful Keihas might well be able to do something to him.
  934. [2011-11-20 14:53:57] <Ironybot> Admittedly, I don't think we would be able to win- but we're certainly in a better position to harm him before we lose.
  935. [2011-11-20 14:54:11] <Arkeus> We also are much more able to see his traps
  936. [2011-11-20 14:54:15] <Arkeus> and sense him
  937. [2011-11-20 14:54:21] <Arkeus> And we'll only get better at that
  938. [2011-11-20 14:54:32] <Alratan> Keihas probably still does nothing
  939. [2011-11-20 14:54:33] <InsufferableMystic> We also would cry like a little gurl if we knew he was coming
  940. [2011-11-20 14:54:42] <Arkeus> That we would
  941. [2011-11-20 14:54:43] <Alratan> he's a Level 8 Blood Practitioner
  942. [2011-11-20 14:54:49] <Arkeus> But it might make IT like us more
  943. [2011-11-20 14:54:58] <Fargist_The_Fifth> We'd prepare our anuses
  944. [2011-11-20 14:54:59] <Alratan> Iron Trick, if we roll right, might do something
  945. [2011-11-20 14:55:15] <Alratan> but I suspect the blood is not part of him
  946. [2011-11-20 14:55:16] <Arkeus> If we contract artifact mere, too
  947. [2011-11-20 14:55:21] <Alratan> and is instead an external shield
  948. [2011-11-20 14:55:26] <Alratan> the mere wouldn't do much
  949. [2011-11-20 14:55:36] <Arkeus> If we contract artifact it
  950. [2011-11-20 14:55:37] <Alratan> as I don't theink the blood is part of him
  951. [2011-11-20 14:55:39] <Arkeus> It might
  952. [2011-11-20 14:55:45] <Arkeus> "don't think"
  953. [2011-11-20 14:55:56] <Alratan> and he can just use the remote controlled blood to attack at range
  954. [2011-11-20 14:56:28] <Arkeus> Guile: i thought you were going to post?
  955. [2011-11-20 14:56:59] <Guile> bob doesnt like people posting while hes updating, as I recall
  956. [2011-11-20 14:57:10] <InsufferableMystic> just right
  957. [2011-11-20 14:57:18] <InsufferableMystic> That would be very irriating
  958. [2011-11-20 14:57:25] <Arkeus> Good point
  959. [2011-11-20 14:57:37] <Arkeus> *Sadness*
  960. [2011-11-20 14:57:50] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I just hope IM's post made it through
  961. [2011-11-20 14:57:57] <Fargist_The_Fifth> TRIPLE TRIPLES MAN
  962. [2011-11-20 14:57:58] <Arkeus> Well, he had already begun
  963. [2011-11-20 14:58:09] <Fargist_The_Fifth> ...even more sadness
  964. [2011-11-20 14:58:16] <Fargist_The_Fifth> What could have been...
  965. [2011-11-20 14:58:17] <Arkeus> I hope Im's and Alratan's idea made it through
  966. [2011-11-20 14:58:22] <Arkeus> a few of those are workable
  967. [2011-11-20 14:58:41] <Arkeus> Well, i got a five of a kind, and Ironybot a palindrome
  968. [2011-11-20 14:58:49] <Arkeus> that's much rarer than triple triple
  969. [2011-11-20 14:58:59] <Ironybot> Our numerological power waxes!
  970. [2011-11-20 14:59:02] <Arkeus> Also, we HAVE triple triple if we count my five of a kind
  971. [2011-11-20 14:59:18] <Arkeus> 555,66666,777
  972. [2011-11-20 14:59:57] <Fargist_The_Fifth> More power can't hurt
  973. [2011-11-20 15:00:08] <Fargist_The_Fifth> It never hurts
  974. [2011-11-20 15:00:43] <Guile> it can hurt
  975. [2011-11-20 15:00:43] <Arkeus> >[TV][In Finnish]"Yeah-turns out there was some very strange magic out there... I guess a month or two ago? Drew a bunch of monsters, dad and Einrik both went and fought some, so did a bunch of other families-because hey, free things to punch-but eventually the Fae started squabbling over the area-" <= Free Things to punch
  976. [2011-11-20 15:01:02] <Guile> those two
  977. [2011-11-20 15:01:06] <Guile> such lovable scamps
  978. [2011-11-20 15:01:09] <Guile> murder-scamps
  979. [2011-11-20 15:02:09] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Also, we just been through half of the day
  980. [2011-11-20 15:02:14] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Half of Wayward Wednesday
  981. [2011-11-20 15:02:32] <Arkeus> in what, 3 weeks?
  982. [2011-11-20 15:02:33] <Arkeus> lol
  983. [2011-11-20 15:02:43] * Fargist_The_Fifth snickers
  984. [2011-11-20 15:03:00] <Alratan> yeah, it's beginning to dra just a lot
  985. [2011-11-20 15:03:03] <Alratan> *drag
  986. [2011-11-20 15:03:05] <Arkeus> and the morning really isn't half of the day
  987. [2011-11-20 15:03:17] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Oh come on.
  988. [2011-11-20 15:03:24] <Samar> foreverawednesday
  989. [2011-11-20 15:03:32] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I think we're at 3-5 o'clock right now
  990. [2011-11-20 15:03:45] <Fargist_The_Fifth> ...PM.
  991. [2011-11-20 15:03:47] <Alratan> if we are, we're running out of time
  992. [2011-11-20 15:04:05] <Samar> redcap dinner is the last thing on our list, isn't it?
  993. [2011-11-20 15:04:15] <Fargist_The_Fifth> It's Wednesday, Wednesday, so much shit to do on Wednesday...
  994. [2011-11-20 15:04:15] <Alratan> as we need to procure supernatural meat for two meals tonight, and SM isn't taking our calls...
  995. [2011-11-20 15:04:25] <Arkeus> Fargist_The_Fifth: we re possibly there at the end of the post
  996. [2011-11-20 15:04:30] <Alratan> no
  997. [2011-11-20 15:04:32] <Arkeus> we arrived there at around noon, though
  998. [2011-11-20 15:04:40] <Arkeus> so beginning of post is more or less noon
  999. [2011-11-20 15:04:41] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Everybody's looking forward to-the-day's end
  1000. [2011-11-20 15:04:51] <Alratan> [20:30] <TheBeardiestBob> I am currently midway through an update, at the end of which you will still be at Ito's.
  1001. [2011-11-20 15:04:51] <Ironybot> I really don't think we're at anywhere near that late in the day. The whole big Triad thing took what, half an hour to get there, ten minutes of fighting, maybe fifteen minutes of aftermath, twenty minutes to return? So call it an hour and a half.
  1002. [2011-11-20 15:05:11] <Arkeus> Yeah, it's around noon
  1003. [2011-11-20 15:05:26] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Hey, Classhole's back
  1004. [2011-11-20 15:05:39] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Didn't see ya there man
  1005. [2011-11-20 15:05:47] <Ironybot> Before that, the bit with Blackbeard certainly didn't take more than two hours, and it started at what, eight in the morning?
  1006. [2011-11-20 15:05:58] <Ironybot> So it is definitely not after 1300, at the very latest.
  1007. [2011-11-20 15:07:11] <Alratan> I think the current priority needs to be getting a substantial supply of supernatural meat for this evening
  1008. [2011-11-20 15:07:29] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Yip
  1009. [2011-11-20 15:07:35] <Fargist_The_Fifth> ...yip.
  1010. [2011-11-20 15:08:05] <Arkeus> Not just this evening, but yes
  1011. [2011-11-20 15:08:08] <Alratan> as we promised a meal equivilent in magical energy to a double bloodlined human with a soul graft from a god, one of whos' bloodlines is five times average human strength
  1012. [2011-11-20 15:08:12] <Arkeus> We have 6 potential Deals with SM
  1013. [2011-11-20 15:08:18] <Alratan> SM is ignoring our calls
  1014. [2011-11-20 15:08:20] <Arkeus> 3 of them Great, 3 of them Priceless
  1015. [2011-11-20 15:08:27] <Arkeus> Alratan: we have to see him
  1016. [2011-11-20 15:08:31] <Alratan> as we somehow pissed him off earlier
  1017. [2011-11-20 15:08:41] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Yeah, we held in too much info
  1018. [2011-11-20 15:08:44] <Arkeus> As said, we have to see him
  1019. [2011-11-20 15:08:54] <Arkeus> Because we need to go and pay what we owe him
  1020. [2011-11-20 15:08:56] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Hmm
  1021. [2011-11-20 15:08:57] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I wonder
  1022. [2011-11-20 15:09:01] <Fargist_The_Fifth> What's SM's ringtone?
  1023. [2011-11-20 15:10:02] <InsufferableMystic> A bit like the dwarf gold song
  1024. [2011-11-20 15:10:05] <InsufferableMystic> Except
  1025. [2011-11-20 15:10:15] <InsufferableMystic> instead of gold Info
  1026. [2011-11-20 15:10:36] <InsufferableMystic> INFO, info, INFO, info~
  1027. [2011-11-20 15:10:57] <Guile> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPBqLcQS10s
  1028. [2011-11-20 15:10:58] <Classhole> Guile: Far Over the Misty Mountains Cold - length 3m 52s - rated 4.00/5.0 (16) - 1785 views - benstox on 2011.04.30
  1029. [2011-11-20 15:13:54] <Ironybot> It was disrespectful to call Sometimes Merchant when we're actively wandering around in his sewers, and he told us to make sure that we had something of value next time we talked. If we wanted to contact him, in person would be the way to do it- and anything less than a significant purchase or sale is just wasting his time.
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  1031. [2011-11-20 15:14:18] <Ironybot> I had thought that someone SUST'd calling him, but apparently that didn't go through.
  1032. [2011-11-20 15:14:38] <Guile> we have been calling him up any time we had ANYTHING to talk about
  1033. [2011-11-20 15:15:01] <Alratan> I suggested calling him to check he had time to speak to us
  1034. [2011-11-20 15:15:04] <Guile> he's got to be at least as busy as Lo Fang, and Lo Fang demands 24 hours advance notice
  1035. [2011-11-20 15:15:04] <Alratan> as a courtesy
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  1038. [2011-11-20 15:16:52] <InsufferableMystic> Sm is different
  1039. [2011-11-20 15:16:59] <InsufferableMystic> He is a bloody Goblin
  1040. [2011-11-20 15:17:08] <InsufferableMystic> Who has NN acess
  1041. [2011-11-20 15:17:15] <InsufferableMystic> And a freaking halo
  1042. [2011-11-20 15:17:29] <Guile> I dont think cell phone providers cover NN space
  1043. [2011-11-20 15:17:30] <InsufferableMystic> Do not compare him to Lo Fang, puny mortals
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  1045. [2011-11-20 15:17:47] <Arkeus> I don't know if I should be ecstatic, cautious, worried, terrified, insulted, angry, ashamed, impressed, overjoyed-all I know is that now I'm sure-Einrik is insane. I don't mean that in a detrimental way-I simply mean he can't possibly meet the criteria of sanity. I propose whatever he's worked up with that... thing in his forhead, has lead him to the other side of sanity, with all it's
  1046. [2011-11-20 15:17:48] <Arkeus> made him aware of. <= ahahah
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  1048. [2011-11-20 15:18:40] <Arkeus> hey BUTTZ
  1049. [2011-11-20 15:18:43] <Guile> context?
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  1051. [2011-11-20 15:19:12] <Arkeus> Guile: Einrik just made a 2 pages long speech on our shadow
  1052. [2011-11-20 15:19:39] <Arkeus> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/316398.html#i328474
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  1054. [2011-11-20 15:20:27] <Guile> thanks
  1055. [2011-11-20 15:20:32] =-= Samar_ is now known as Samar
  1056. [2011-11-20 15:20:54] <Guile> I cant stop listening to this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y
  1057. [2011-11-20 15:20:55] <Classhole> Guile: Where there's a whip, there's a way! - length 4m 35s - rated 4.90/5.0 (2773) - 528312 views - NightTorch on 2006.08.03
  1058. [2011-11-20 15:21:04] <Arkeus> Going to res for a couple of hours
  1059. [2011-11-20 15:21:05] <Arkeus> laters
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  1064. [2011-11-20 15:30:15] <InsufferableMystic> Calamari tonight!
  1065. [2011-11-20 15:30:29] * InsufferableMystic gets out flamethrower
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  1067. [2011-11-20 15:33:07] <BUTTZ> -My shadow feels sad.
  1068. [2011-11-20 15:33:08] <BUTTZ> ...NO Retard jokes, dammit.
  1069. [2011-11-20 15:35:26] <TheBeardiestBob> http://gadgetbox.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/16/8823860-wacom-inkling-review-a-high-tech-pen-youll-use
  1070. [2011-11-20 15:37:17] <Alratan> one of those could be fun
  1071. [2011-11-20 15:37:21] <InsufferableMystic> Pity I can't really draw off computer
  1072. [2011-11-20 15:38:34] <Alratan> that's the point
  1073. [2011-11-20 15:38:38] <Alratan> you don't need to
  1074. [2011-11-20 15:39:28] <InsufferableMystic> No I mean I am fairly useless when NOT drawing on a computer
  1075. [2011-11-20 15:39:34] <Alratan> ah, right
  1076. [2011-11-20 15:40:02] <InsufferableMystic> I take too long just to get a thing that vaguely looks like a thing
  1077. [2011-11-20 15:40:29] <BUTTZ> $200 is pretty reasonable
  1078. [2011-11-20 15:40:47] <BUTTZ> I mean they've got to be making $100 a pop on them minimum
  1079. [2011-11-20 15:41:08] <BUTTZ> But given that it sounds like it just works, that's not horrible
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  1081. [2011-11-20 15:44:12] <InsufferableMystic> ! a ferminter!
  1082. [2011-11-20 15:44:19] <TheBeardiestBob> Alratan: Yes I see your post about hearing attention soul sensing all that, but the updates already long as shit and it didn't mesh well with what's currently transpiring. Maybe after the _________ spar?
  1083. [2011-11-20 15:44:34] <Alratan> :(
  1084. [2011-11-20 15:44:41] <Alratan> will have to do my best
  1085. [2011-11-20 15:45:30] <Guile> killer croc level... so fucking lost... developing severe phobia of sewers with giant crocodile men in them
  1086. [2011-11-20 15:45:35] <Alratan> the hearing bit is really the secondary piece, it's the reading the nature of Attention I'm most interested in for mow
  1087. [2011-11-20 15:45:44] <Ironybot> There is quite a bit of development that we can likely do with our attention sensing skills, if we spend some time working at it.
  1088. [2011-11-20 15:45:57] <ferminter> Killer Croc wishes he could be as scary as what lives in our sewers
  1089. [2011-11-20 15:46:08] <Guile> took 20 years to get it to this level, may require serious time investment
  1090. [2011-11-20 15:46:24] <Ironybot> That said, this afternoon is ultimately rather short- we'll need a lot more free time to really develop it.
  1091. [2011-11-20 15:46:43] <Ironybot> The primary purpose of today is to reconnect with our contacts rather than to accomplish new things with them.
  1092. [2011-11-20 15:47:03] <Alratan> what we also need to do is start simulatanously working on a variety of soul based abilities
  1093. [2011-11-20 15:47:12] <Alratan> get some education from the Liab Olmai
  1094. [2011-11-20 15:47:36] <Alratan> the same from the captives of Stallon's tribe the Liab Olmai took
  1095. [2011-11-20 15:47:47] <Alratan> as well as chakra training from Lo Fang
  1096. [2011-11-20 15:47:58] <Guile> I dont think the LO have cell phones, Al
  1097. [2011-11-20 15:48:02] <Alratan> and some more education from SM on how to interpret spirual senses
  1098. [2011-11-20 15:48:20] <Alratan> Guile: no, but the Valkonens have a phone, and there's a Liab Olmai Shaman at their estate
  1099. [2011-11-20 15:48:39] <Guile> ... there is?
  1100. [2011-11-20 15:49:00] <Alratan> yep
  1101. [2011-11-20 15:49:04] <A_Greedy_Squid> i SENSE AN UPDATE
  1102. [2011-11-20 15:49:15] <Alratan> all our pissing about with mobiles was completely un-neccessary
  1103. [2011-11-20 15:49:25] <Alratan> we could have just asked to borrow their landline
  1104. [2011-11-20 15:49:49] <TheBeardiestBob> Alratan, I gently suggest actually seeking out Soul manipulators that are good at soul perception to expand your sensing with. Yes you can learn on your own with experimentation, and yes short of somehow mixing border in the mix or something else crazy, you don't pose direct risk to yourself in the experimentation
  1105. [2011-11-20 15:50:09] <Alratan> It seems that SM falls into that category
  1106. [2011-11-20 15:50:20] <TheBeardiestBob> but it's the difference between an amateur blowing glass, or paying a glass blower from one of the guilds in Milan to do it.
  1107. [2011-11-20 15:50:44] <TheBeardiestBob> Please do recall how much premium information carries when going from goblin to you rather than the other way around.
  1108. [2011-11-20 15:51:12] <InsufferableMystic> Is my crazy post useless or will it help the sparring?
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  1110. [2011-11-20 15:51:24] <Alratan> We get 1:1 hours of training on sneakign and stalking to weapons training
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  1113. [2011-11-20 15:51:43] <Ironybot> We have rarely if ever seen useful results from focusing on individual chakras. I'm not expecting trying that to help with anything.
  1114. [2011-11-20 15:51:47] <InsufferableMystic> We need to start teaching ourselves ventriloquism
  1115. [2011-11-20 15:51:51] <Alratan> Both stalking and sneaking are directly based on spiritual perception
  1116. [2011-11-20 15:52:01] <A_Greedy_Squid> Teaching OURSELVES?
  1117. [2011-11-20 15:52:01] <Alratan> so we should just continue buying training there
  1118. [2011-11-20 15:52:02] <Ironybot> But I have been surprised before.
  1119. [2011-11-20 15:52:09] <A_Greedy_Squid> Nah. Have SM teach us
  1120. [2011-11-20 15:52:28] <Alratan> at that cheap rate, by claiming it's part of the same subject we've already agreed a price for
  1121. [2011-11-20 15:52:30] <InsufferableMystic> SM's vent isn't normal, I'd like to have the mundane first
  1122. [2011-11-20 15:52:45] <A_Greedy_Squid> Remember our idea to make Camella talk with her leg?
  1123. [2011-11-20 15:52:57] <A_Greedy_Squid> 'Pssst! Hey! Camella! It's me, your leg!'
  1124. [2011-11-20 15:53:12] <Alratan> Also, we could ask for the six or seven training sessions we're due by the wording of the strikes deal, if they get really difficult
  1125. [2011-11-20 15:53:20] <Ironybot> While it is as suicidally dangerous as ever, Amen is a masterful soul manipulator and in spite of his specialization could almost certainly provide us with a ton of useful information at no cost.
  1126. [2011-11-20 15:53:37] <A_Greedy_Squid> yip yip
  1127. [2011-11-20 15:53:52] <Ironybot> I would go for that over Sometimes Merchant, so long as we are careful with it.
  1128. [2011-11-20 15:54:01] <A_Greedy_Squid> Same
  1129. [2011-11-20 15:54:02] <Alratan> spirtual perceptions and how to interpret what they detect would seem to be one of the least bad things to ask
  1130. [2011-11-20 15:54:10] <Alratan> but still not worth it
  1131. [2011-11-20 15:54:22] <Alratan> and I doubt that Einrik understands how his own spirtual senses work
  1132. [2011-11-20 15:54:29] <Alratan> as he steals them from something else
  1133. [2011-11-20 15:54:37] <A_Greedy_Squid> From babbythulu
  1134. [2011-11-20 15:54:45] <A_Greedy_Squid> !!
  1135. [2011-11-20 15:54:45] <Classhole> !?
  1136. [2011-11-20 15:54:47] <A_Greedy_Squid> Hey Bob
  1137. [2011-11-20 15:54:50] <BUTTZ> Einrik is insightful and well educated
  1138. [2011-11-20 15:54:54] <A_Greedy_Squid> What was the babbythulu's true name again?
  1139. [2011-11-20 15:54:59] <Samar> NO
  1140. [2011-11-20 15:54:59] <A_Greedy_Squid> I forgot and no one wants to tell me
  1141. [2011-11-20 15:55:00] <Samar> DOWN SQUID
  1142. [2011-11-20 15:55:01] <BUTTZ> I'm sure he has an idea of how it works at a minimum
  1143. [2011-11-20 15:55:07] <Samar> we will never tell you
  1144. [2011-11-20 15:55:12] <A_Greedy_Squid> I know
  1145. [2011-11-20 15:55:13] * Samar lauhgs
  1146. [2011-11-20 15:55:16] <A_Greedy_Squid> That's why I'm asking Bob
  1147. [2011-11-20 15:55:21] <Samar> bob wont either.
  1148. [2011-11-20 15:55:22] <Samar> :D
  1149. [2011-11-20 15:55:25] <A_Greedy_Squid> You never know
  1150. [2011-11-20 15:55:48] <A_Greedy_Squid> So yeah, Bob, what was the Babbythulu's true name?
  1151. [2011-11-20 15:55:56] <InsufferableMystic> NOOO
  1152. [2011-11-20 15:56:10] * InsufferableMystic flips out
  1153. [2011-11-20 15:56:22] * A_Greedy_Squid rubs tentacles in glee
  1154. [2011-11-20 15:56:24] <InsufferableMystic> <.<
  1155. [2011-11-20 15:56:33] <InsufferableMystic> Calamari
  1156. [2011-11-20 15:56:42] * A_Greedy_Squid shoots ink at IM
  1157. [2011-11-20 15:56:43] <BUTTZ> I listened to this radio program about how smart octopi are
  1158. [2011-11-20 15:56:46] <BUTTZ> They're pretty clever
  1159. [2011-11-20 15:56:50] <ferminter> Very clever
  1160. [2011-11-20 15:56:55] <A_Greedy_Squid> Squids are too
  1161. [2011-11-20 15:57:00] <BUTTZ> Too bad they live such short lives
  1162. [2011-11-20 15:57:12] <ferminter> Turtles get all the luck
  1163. [2011-11-20 15:57:15] <BUTTZ> If they had better longevitity it might be worth trying to teach them
  1164. [2011-11-20 15:58:12] <BUTTZ> Well maybe someone will make a Octogenarian Octopi gmo
  1165. [2011-11-20 15:58:38] <Guile> actually, my 'there is?' referred to a Laib Olmai at the Valk estate, not a phone
  1166. [2011-11-20 15:59:11] <Alratan> Guile: yep, teaching Big how to bind a hydra as a spirit animal
  1167. [2011-11-20 15:59:40] <A_Greedy_Squid> When Bob answers my question...ALL SHALL BE DOOMED
  1168. [2011-11-20 15:59:56] <Samar> ...
  1169. [2011-11-20 15:59:57] <BUTTZ> I thought Bob liked this quest
  1170. [2011-11-20 16:00:23] <Guile> he also told us the name to begin with
  1171. [2011-11-20 16:00:26] * A_Greedy_Squid keeps rubbing dem tentacles
  1172. [2011-11-20 16:00:30] <A_Greedy_Squid> Yes, and I forgot :<
  1173. [2011-11-20 16:00:36] <Guile> keep it in your pants, you saucy bastard
  1174. [2011-11-20 16:00:55] <Samar> Squid
  1175. [2011-11-20 16:01:00] <BUTTZ> So y'all are sure you don't want to make a Mask right?
  1176. [2011-11-20 16:01:02] <Samar> do you really want to know its name?
  1177. [2011-11-20 16:01:08] <A_Greedy_Squid> Yes, I really want to know
  1178. [2011-11-20 16:01:12] <A_Greedy_Squid> And no, I don't want the Mask
  1179. [2011-11-20 16:01:19] <BUTTZ> Because imagine what Einrik would be like with it
  1180. [2011-11-20 16:01:32] <Samar> Naziledi
  1181. [2011-11-20 16:01:38] <A_Greedy_Squid> You liar
  1182. [2011-11-20 16:01:41] <Guile> He would be like the 'bad' mask from when that mobster got it
  1183. [2011-11-20 16:01:43] <A_Greedy_Squid> It started with a V
  1184. [2011-11-20 16:01:43] <Samar> am not.
  1185. [2011-11-20 16:01:46] <A_Greedy_Squid> I can only remember that
  1186. [2011-11-20 16:01:49] <BUTTZ> Nah he's not a bad dude
  1187. [2011-11-20 16:01:56] <Samar> its trufax
  1188. [2011-11-20 16:01:58] <BUTTZ> He'd go fight dragons
  1189. [2011-11-20 16:01:59] <A_Greedy_Squid> Valedi?
  1190. [2011-11-20 16:01:59] <Guile> he wants power
  1191. [2011-11-20 16:02:01] <Guile> at any cost
  1192. [2011-11-20 16:02:01] <Samar> just askGuile
  1193. [2011-11-20 16:02:04] <Guile> almost any cost
  1194. [2011-11-20 16:02:05] <A_Greedy_Squid> It's name is Valedi?
  1195. [2011-11-20 16:02:11] <Alratan> I really don't want the Mask
  1196. [2011-11-20 16:02:16] <Alratan> that would be dull
  1197. [2011-11-20 16:02:19] <Guile> yep, Samar is right. VNaziledi
  1198. [2011-11-20 16:02:30] <A_Greedy_Squid> liars, all of you
  1199. [2011-11-20 16:02:32] <A_Greedy_Squid> stop hiding the truth
  1200. [2011-11-20 16:02:48] <A_Greedy_Squid> i'll get it with these tentacles of mine
  1201. [2011-11-20 16:04:37] <TheBeardiestBob> http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1321824572031.jpg
  1202. [2011-11-20 16:04:41] <TheBeardiestBob> Thank you 4chan
  1203. [2011-11-20 16:05:26] <BUTTZ> Bugchasers yeah
  1204. [2011-11-20 16:05:31] <BUTTZ> PozLoadz
  1205. [2011-11-20 16:05:46] <BUTTZ> They did a big thread/articles about them on SA a few years ago
  1206. [2011-11-20 16:05:50] <A_Greedy_Squid> Bob: What's the babbythulu's name?
  1207. [2011-11-20 16:06:10] <TheBeardiestBob> It's name is ______________
  1208. [2011-11-20 16:06:30] <A_Greedy_Squid> >.<
  1209. [2011-11-20 16:06:32] <A_Greedy_Squid> Not you too!
  1210. [2011-11-20 16:06:46] <TheBeardiestBob> What, it's name is _____________
  1211. [2011-11-20 16:06:46] <A_Greedy_Squid> I only remember it being short as fuck, and that it started with a 'V'
  1212. [2011-11-20 16:07:11] <Alratan> that, I didn't need to see
  1213. [2011-11-20 16:07:11] <BUTTZ> Vbabbay
  1214. [2011-11-20 16:07:15] <A_Greedy_Squid> Ugh, it's name...as best as human language can represent it
  1215. [2011-11-20 16:07:17] <Guile> UU, remember, it's ___ before __ except after ___
  1216. [2011-11-20 16:07:29] <Samar> lol, Guile
  1217. [2011-11-20 16:07:47] <TheBeardiestBob> And hanging participle ___ need to be used to contextualize _ properly for ___
  1218. [2011-11-20 16:08:03] <Guile> context is important
  1219. [2011-11-20 16:08:22] <TheBeardiestBob> Indeed it is.
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  1221. [2011-11-20 16:09:14] <A_Greedy_Squid> Someone...someone please tell me
  1222. [2011-11-20 16:09:19] <A_Greedy_Squid> I'm despairing over here
  1223. [2011-11-20 16:09:27] <A_Greedy_Squid> I'm about to tear my mind apart just to search for the name
  1224. [2011-11-20 16:09:30] <Guile> Good. Your despair makes us stronger.
  1225. [2011-11-20 16:09:47] <BUTTZ> What's the name of that little robot computer game console in Aventure time? Beemo or something?
  1226. [2011-11-20 16:12:15] <BUTTZ> Anyway I imagine Einrick's babby-thulu talks to him in its voice
  1227. [2011-11-20 16:12:54] <MrTT> oh god
  1228. [2011-11-20 16:12:58] <MrTT> i never considered it talks to him
  1229. [2011-11-20 16:13:09] <BUTTZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hIv6m1kAUA
  1230. [2011-11-20 16:13:10] <Classhole> BUTTZ: Best of Beemo (Adventure Time) - length 3m 6s - rated 4.95/5.0 (462) - 87880 views - 707miniuzi on 2011.05.02
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  1232. [2011-11-20 16:13:25] <TheBeardiestBob> Update
  1233. [2011-11-20 16:13:35] <MrTT> btw ark, the game whih i was thinking of was cthulu saves the world, outsold console on PC like crazy
  1234. [2011-11-20 16:13:38] <MrTT> hot damn dammit
  1235. [2011-11-20 16:13:46] <MrTT> I have 1:50 min to prepare to a business flight
  1236. [2011-11-20 16:13:50] <MrTT> I have no tiem for an update :(
  1237. [2011-11-20 16:13:59] <BUTTZ> Read it later then
  1238. [2011-11-20 16:14:00] <TheBeardiestBob> Well you have a choice then.
  1239. [2011-11-20 16:14:08] <Wutenheimer> so, we have to start carrying a bikini around
  1240. [2011-11-20 16:14:21] <Samar> ?gfh
  1241. [2011-11-20 16:14:21] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
  1242. [2011-11-20 16:14:22] <Wutenheimer> and as soon as camella steps into a shadow...
  1243. [2011-11-20 16:15:38] <Guile> choosing to read GFH and miss your flight is the correct response
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  1245. [2011-11-20 16:16:41] <Wutenheimer> actually you just load it up on your phone and read it on the plane
  1246. [2011-11-20 16:16:47] <cornelius> Mibbit is feeling odd with it's name choices
  1247. [2011-11-20 16:17:01] <Wutenheimer> it's what i did after my england trip
  1248. [2011-11-20 16:17:03] <Guile> how do you choose random names?
  1249. [2011-11-20 16:17:44] <cornelius> Bookmarked the channel, it has a random name for me on the page.
  1250. [2011-11-20 16:19:09] <Alratan> I thought Hillevi had solidly super-human speed?
  1251. [2011-11-20 16:19:38] <TheBeardiestBob> WUTENHEIMER
  1252. [2011-11-20 16:19:39] <cornelius> Faster than we are with maximum Shadowbro assistance if I recall correctly.
  1253. [2011-11-20 16:19:42] <TheBeardiestBob> WUTENHEIMER
  1254. [2011-11-20 16:19:45] <Alratan> shouldn't she just be speed blitzing Camella to pieces
  1255. [2011-11-20 16:19:49] <TheBeardiestBob> http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1321824705364.jpg
  1256. [2011-11-20 16:19:54] <TheBeardiestBob> You need to go say hi to this guy.
  1257. [2011-11-20 16:20:03] <TheBeardiestBob> Do it
  1258. [2011-11-20 16:20:05] <TheBeardiestBob> you know you want to.
  1259. [2011-11-20 16:21:24] <Alratan> Hmm, we know know there's something very odd about Camella, as we have a superhuman (Level 4) combat trait, and as a normal human, she shouldn't
  1260. [2011-11-20 16:22:18] <TheBeardiestBob> She's got a shitton of interlinked lvl 3 combat traits
  1261. [2011-11-20 16:22:49] <cornelius> Quantity has a quality all of its' own
  1262. [2011-11-20 16:23:07] <Alratan> we could hold off the Valkonen twins simultaneously
  1263. [2011-11-20 16:23:30] <Alratan> we should have a pile of Level 4+ combat traits
  1264. [2011-11-20 16:24:15] <Guile> I dont think the Valk twins were going anything but easy on us
  1265. [2011-11-20 16:24:18] <Alratan> *sorry, who should have
  1266. [2011-11-20 16:24:48] <TheBeardiestBob> You abused the fact that until they are taught the stealth arts the valkonen style is SHIT in terms of counter-stealth.
  1267. [2011-11-20 16:25:18] <TheBeardiestBob> That's one of the reasons the family kept Tartalo-Tartalo's GREAT at detection. Like a babysitter for Valks that haven't learned everything.
  1268. [2011-11-20 16:26:05] <Alratan> Also, shouldn't we also have a pile of interlinked Level 3 combat traits from the Kas Pin implantation
  1269. [2011-11-20 16:26:16] <Wutenheimer> huh
  1270. [2011-11-20 16:26:16] <MrTT> " Through it all, Hillevi resolutely shunts the majority of Hillevi's efforts aside"
  1271. [2011-11-20 16:26:16] <Wutenheimer> wut
  1272. [2011-11-20 16:26:27] <MrTT> which one is camella?
  1273. [2011-11-20 16:26:57] <Alratan> as that gave us more years of impossibly tough martial arts training than Camella has been alive
  1274. [2011-11-20 16:27:37] <Wutenheimer> oh god that... that thing
  1275. [2011-11-20 16:27:40] <TheBeardiestBob> Whoops
  1276. [2011-11-20 16:27:50] <TheBeardiestBob> Camella shunted Hillevi's attacks
  1277. [2011-11-20 16:28:27] <A_Greedy_Squid> Huh...
  1278. [2011-11-20 16:28:31] <Guile> we havent exactly tried using the kas pin style in quest- we might pick up a handful of 2-3 level traits when we get around to it
  1279. [2011-11-20 16:28:54] <Alratan> I think we should shift styles to pure Kas Pin now, and go for the nerve strikes that are part of the style
  1280. [2011-11-20 16:29:37] <MrTT> armas has, with memory implants and the like, more combat training then she has been alive... probably
  1281. [2011-11-20 16:29:46] <MrTT> but her soul suggests more experience, much more so
  1282. [2011-11-20 16:29:52] <MrTT> I wonder if it is just combat experience
  1283. [2011-11-20 16:29:58] <MrTT> or if she also had some time shens
  1284. [2011-11-20 16:30:28] <MrTT> besides... decades of experience or not she is still super good at it
  1285. [2011-11-20 16:30:29] <Alratan> yeah, Armas has what, ten years combat experience
  1286. [2011-11-20 16:30:34] <Guile> could be that deep down in the catacombs is more like the nevernever than not. So she didnt just spend a couple weeks down there- but much, much longer
  1287. [2011-11-20 16:30:35] <Alratan> in the field
  1288. [2011-11-20 16:30:54] <Alratan> your soul doesn't get strong during NN time acceleration though
  1289. [2011-11-20 16:30:54] <Guile> and there's something to be said for stupid amounts of genius
  1290. [2011-11-20 16:31:08] <MrTT> 10 years in field, 25 years of non stop no sleep stealth experience (translates to much more time in regular years), decades and decades of kas pin implanted into brain
  1291. [2011-11-20 16:31:37] <A_Greedy_Squid> And Camella can still kick our shit in.
  1292. [2011-11-20 16:31:39] <Alratan> not only that, but a level of training for Kas Pin that a mortal wouldn't survive
  1293. [2011-11-20 16:31:45] <MrTT> maybe a soul can gain combat experience in NN even though it doesn't get AGE experience
  1294. [2011-11-20 16:31:57] <MrTT> and yes she does have ridiculous amout of genious there
  1295. [2011-11-20 16:32:08] <Alratan> we're probably looking at having about ten times as much combat training time as here
  1296. [2011-11-20 16:32:21] <InsufferableMystic> Bob, could i link to my previous post for this update?
  1297. [2011-11-20 16:33:01] <MrTT> well... her training all came directly from herself, in normal time, and in actual combat... and she did have a lot of IRL experience in field operations as a spec op
  1298. [2011-11-20 16:33:22] <Alratan> Do we know how old she is?
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  1300. [2011-11-20 16:33:24] <MrTT> I am guessing there might be integration issues with kas pin
  1301. [2011-11-20 16:33:51] <MrTT> wait... I said IRL I meant real time in her life and not implanted memory / time shens / etc
  1302. [2011-11-20 16:35:20] <TheBeardiestBob> http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1321826085616.jpg
  1303. [2011-11-20 16:35:41] <Alratan> she can't have more than about 4 years combat experience
  1304. [2011-11-20 16:35:58] <TheBeardiestBob> >4 years
  1305. [2011-11-20 16:36:00] <TheBeardiestBob> hahaha
  1306. [2011-11-20 16:36:01] <Alratan> The Italian army has only permitted women to serve in the front line since 2006
  1307. [2011-11-20 16:36:07] <Alratan> before then it was banned
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  1309. [2011-11-20 16:36:22] <Guile> the thing about black ops
  1310. [2011-11-20 16:36:22] <BUTTZ> She's from an alternate reality dude
  1311. [2011-11-20 16:36:26] <A_Greedy_Squid> ^
  1312. [2011-11-20 16:36:26] <TheBeardiestBob> Military is not the only combat experience
  1313. [2011-11-20 16:36:28] <Guile> is that they dont always follow the rules
  1314. [2011-11-20 16:36:31] <Alratan> even afterwards it's been extremely rare and unpopular amonst the military
  1315. [2011-11-20 16:36:36] <Alratan> particularly in elite units
  1316. [2011-11-20 16:36:43] <BUTTZ> alternate
  1317. [2011-11-20 16:36:46] <BUTTZ> reality
  1318. [2011-11-20 16:36:51] <A_Greedy_Squid> She must have gained some SERIOUS XP during her underground trek
  1319. [2011-11-20 16:36:58] <Ironybot> We're worried about Hillevi blushing blue... didn't she put her glamour back on after showing Camella what she actually looked like? Shouldn't it cover for that?
  1320. [2011-11-20 16:36:59] <TheBeardiestBob> Oh fuck yeah she did
  1321. [2011-11-20 16:37:11] <TheBeardiestBob> She got more xp in that trek than I think you have in any two threads.
  1322. [2011-11-20 16:37:18] <A_Greedy_Squid> ...
  1323. [2011-11-20 16:37:19] <Alratan> so
  1324. [2011-11-20 16:37:20] <A_Greedy_Squid> My god
  1325. [2011-11-20 16:37:21] <A_Greedy_Squid> What a beast
  1326. [2011-11-20 16:37:28] <Samar> how long was the trek?
  1327. [2011-11-20 16:37:33] <BUTTZ> A week
  1328. [2011-11-20 16:37:35] <A_Greedy_Squid> A week
  1329. [2011-11-20 16:37:39] <Alratan> we have a tiny number of encoutners possible due to our control methodology
  1330. [2011-11-20 16:37:51] <Alratan> we've spent three weeks having abour 4 hours pass
  1331. [2011-11-20 16:38:07] <Alratan> xp acqusition rate will alsways be slow
  1332. [2011-11-20 16:38:32] <A_Greedy_Squid> Not with BONUSes
  1333. [2011-11-20 16:38:58] <A_Greedy_Squid> We just got Palindromic Bonus, 4 of a kind, 5 of a kind.
  1334. [2011-11-20 16:39:04] <A_Greedy_Squid> And probably Triple Triple
  1335. [2011-11-20 16:39:15] <Ironybot> What do those have to do with XP gain?
  1336. [2011-11-20 16:39:16] <Samar> for all we know, Camella could be off on a mission
  1337. [2011-11-20 16:39:20] <Samar> while we're still at the gym
  1338. [2011-11-20 16:39:48] <Alratan> yeah, I can't see how we can ever possibly approach the number of encoutners players on IRC can get through
  1339. [2011-11-20 16:40:30] <BUTTZ> And I can't see how they can match a collective for planning and ass-pulls
  1340. [2011-11-20 16:40:39] <Alratan> what?
  1341. [2011-11-20 16:41:19] <BUTTZ> A single person isn't going to do as well at brainstorming and last-minute insane-but-bacon-saving plans as a collective group
  1342. [2011-11-20 16:41:27] <Guile> "Her soul is watching me." That's pretty spooky, even for us.
  1343. [2011-11-20 16:41:29] <Alratan> the fact that we're a fluctuating collective that by it's nature can't make consistent decisions or maintain a long term plan only compounds it
  1344. [2011-11-20 16:41:50] <A_Greedy_Squid> Camella, you just keep getting creepier
  1345. [2011-11-20 16:42:13] <A_Greedy_Squid> Wait, maybe she can soul-sense too?
  1346. [2011-11-20 16:42:21] <Alratan> seems very likely
  1347. [2011-11-20 16:42:34] <A_Greedy_Squid> Then that means...she can see our fucked up soul.
  1348. [2011-11-20 16:42:45] <Alratan> I doubt she can perceive it conciously
  1349. [2011-11-20 16:42:55] <Alratan> remember, to mortals we look liek a funky NN denizen
  1350. [2011-11-20 16:42:58] <MrTT> "<TheBeardiestBob> Military is not the only combat experience" -oho! you know now that I think about it, I have been fighting since I started school
  1351. [2011-11-20 16:43:04] <MrTT> Schools in israel are very violent
  1352. [2011-11-20 16:43:06] <MrTT> no discipline
  1353. [2011-11-20 16:43:13] <Alratan> not like another mortal
  1354. [2011-11-20 16:43:21] <MrTT> I bet she has done so too, gang fights in her teens, things like that
  1355. [2011-11-20 16:43:32] <Alratan> Also, who's Jagda?
  1356. [2011-11-20 16:43:51] <Ironybot> Professor translating our cookbook.
  1357. [2011-11-20 16:43:58] <Alratan> MrTT: Unless the italy in the world she's from is quite different to ours, I doubt it
  1358. [2011-11-20 16:43:58] <Guile> she's an italian, isnt she? and Jagda's the professor
  1359. [2011-11-20 16:44:01] <MrTT> Armas spent only 2 weeks gaining all his powers in the finland trip though
  1360. [2011-11-20 16:44:03] <cornelius> Seems to me like we're just experiencing a facet of her shooting ability.
  1361. [2011-11-20 16:44:13] <cornelius> The innate body position sensing
  1362. [2011-11-20 16:44:19] <MrTT> Maybe she is from a rough neighborhood of inner city italians
  1363. [2011-11-20 16:44:20] <Alratan> Isn't Jagda visiting us rather than the other way around?
  1364. [2011-11-20 16:44:32] <Guile> could be... it does explain how she feels comfortable throwing all those backhands and roundhouses, though
  1365. [2011-11-20 16:44:42] <cornelius> He is
  1366. [2011-11-20 16:44:53] <Guile> I think as long as we feed him magical food, we're good
  1367. [2011-11-20 16:44:54] <cornelius> Still need to get more cooking supplies
  1368. [2011-11-20 16:45:03] <Samar> kelpie krisps
  1369. [2011-11-20 16:45:07] <A_Greedy_Squid> ^
  1370. [2011-11-20 16:45:08] <A_Greedy_Squid> A classic
  1371. [2011-11-20 16:45:09] <cornelius> Our signature recipe
  1372. [2011-11-20 16:45:24] <cornelius> Armas needs to add his own touch to them
  1373. [2011-11-20 16:45:40] <Alratan> We promised Kelpie Crisps
  1374. [2011-11-20 16:45:45] <Alratan> we don't have theingredients
  1375. [2011-11-20 16:45:50] <Alratan> and we have no way to get them
  1376. [2011-11-20 16:45:50] <A_Greedy_Squid> :<
  1377. [2011-11-20 16:45:57] <MrTT> we have a ton of shit to sell SM
  1378. [2011-11-20 16:45:58] <A_Greedy_Squid> But then again
  1379. [2011-11-20 16:45:59] <BUTTZ> We can go kill a kelpie
  1380. [2011-11-20 16:46:01] <cornelius> We have a meeting with the goblins planned.
  1381. [2011-11-20 16:46:03] <A_Greedy_Squid> Kelpie meat is cheap as fuck
  1382. [2011-11-20 16:46:11] <A_Greedy_Squid> It's like...buying sweets at your local store
  1383. [2011-11-20 16:46:17] <MrTT> a single delivery of kelpie is gonna be insignificant, most of the purchases we make are "weekly deliveries for life"
  1384. [2011-11-20 16:46:18] <Alratan> SM is ignoring our calls, remember
  1385. [2011-11-20 16:46:42] <Guile> If we go into the Bosphorus after a kelpie, we are gonna initiate Doony encounter
  1386. [2011-11-20 16:46:43] <cornelius> He accepted he would wait until after we finished gathering information
  1387. [2011-11-20 16:46:44] <MrTT> did we table the building of an underground facility for redcaps?
  1388. [2011-11-20 16:46:45] <Guile> you just know it
  1389. [2011-11-20 16:46:48] <MrTT> or did they actually build it?
  1390. [2011-11-20 16:46:49] <A_Greedy_Squid> ...
  1391. [2011-11-20 16:46:57] <cornelius> We will be done soon
  1392. [2011-11-20 16:46:58] <Guile> no TT, Amen is building it
  1393. [2011-11-20 16:47:01] <A_Greedy_Squid> US WITH A SPEAR AND SILJA, RIDING A KELPIE THROUGH THE WAVES
  1394. [2011-11-20 16:47:01] <MrTT> because that is kinda advertising
  1395. [2011-11-20 16:47:08] <Alratan> not really
  1396. [2011-11-20 16:47:22] <Alratan> as anyone who could witness it will get imprisoned by Amen
  1397. [2011-11-20 16:47:51] <cornelius> Water skiing using monster power?
  1398. [2011-11-20 16:47:56] <MrTT> actually, i had an idea to have amen build and protect an elevator / base underneath the mansion... so that its a mansion overground, then ONE layer of sewer, then an exploration base
  1399. [2011-11-20 16:48:07] <Guile> I can see other uses for it, even if I think trying to juggle SM and Redcap contacts will be hard enough without setting the Redcaps down really close to goblin territory
  1400. [2011-11-20 16:48:08] <MrTT> we cannot remove the protections on the house own sewers
  1401. [2011-11-20 16:48:21] <MrTT> but we can just walk out, enter a sewer, then walk a little bit and enter that second underground mansion
  1402. [2011-11-20 16:48:27] <cornelius> The sewer entrance to be precise
  1403. [2011-11-20 16:48:41] <MrTT> I plan to draw it out and post in questdis
  1404. [2011-11-20 16:48:43] <MrTT> when i have time
  1405. [2011-11-20 16:48:51] <MrTT> which i don't right now, why am i burning it talking here? ARRG!
  1406. [2011-11-20 16:48:53] <Guile> the sewers under the house are really dangerous for some reason. Maybe Amen is brewing one of his death plots down there
  1407. [2011-11-20 16:49:06] <cornelius> The issue is eating up Wyld goblin territory building anything.
  1408. [2011-11-20 16:49:24] <Guile> Amen specified that he wouldnt set it down on Wyld goblin land
  1409. [2011-11-20 16:49:54] <Alratan> Amen's influence goes up and down
  1410. [2011-11-20 16:50:08] <Guile> big question now is - what trick can we pull that can get us out of this fight intact, that doesnt rely on hiding/trickery?
  1411. [2011-11-20 16:50:08] <Alratan> have him build it beneath the goblin territory
  1412. [2011-11-20 16:50:24] <Alratan> I'm about to come up with one
  1413. [2011-11-20 16:51:06] <Alratan> My first version won't have a roll so you guys can review it
  1414. [2011-11-20 16:51:36] <cornelius> How thoughtful
  1415. [2011-11-20 16:51:49] <MrTT> we can buy that particular spot in their territory.
  1416. [2011-11-20 16:51:51] <cornelius> Being entirely seriously there
  1417. [2011-11-20 16:52:03] <MrTT> and for every level do a case by case thing
  1418. [2011-11-20 16:52:24] <Guile> should I post my kas pin musings in disc or quest, I wonder?
  1419. [2011-11-20 16:52:31] <Guile> It's kind of applicable to the situation at hand
  1420. [2011-11-20 16:52:43] <cornelius> Seems like the perfect time
  1421. [2011-11-20 16:53:43] <A_Greedy_Squid> ?discthread
  1422. [2011-11-20 16:53:44] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/347115+50.html
  1423. [2011-11-20 16:54:43] <Ironybot> My clever plan to get us out of this without getting our ass kicked: When we're pretty sure she'll win within the next few seconds, pull out and concede the match.
  1424. [2011-11-20 16:54:45] <Wutenheimer> i imagine jackie chans soul is much like camellas
  1425. [2011-11-20 16:54:58] <A_Greedy_Squid> Dude
  1426. [2011-11-20 16:55:02] <A_Greedy_Squid> |We barely started
  1427. [2011-11-20 16:55:23] <MrTT> real men never pull out
  1428. [2011-11-20 16:55:28] <Wutenheimer> except instead of focusing on his opponent it's focusing on his surroundings
  1429. [2011-11-20 16:55:38] <MrTT> ... of a fight
  1430. [2011-11-20 16:55:47] * A_Greedy_Squid snickers at MrTT
  1431. [2011-11-20 16:55:54] <Wutenheimer> also, after wrapping up here we go straight to jagda
  1432. [2011-11-20 16:55:56] <BUTTZ> MrTT has hit on one way to turn the fight
  1433. [2011-11-20 16:55:58] <Wutenheimer> cooking comes first
  1434. [2011-11-20 16:56:01] <Guile> Thank you, TT
  1435. [2011-11-20 16:56:12] <InsufferableMystic> We need food for jagda
  1436. [2011-11-20 16:56:23] <A_Greedy_Squid> I wonder if we have some hidden Cooking trait
  1437. [2011-11-20 16:56:28] <Ironybot> We will need to pick up magical food supplies before going to see Jagda, or the whole thing there falls through.
  1438. [2011-11-20 16:56:38] <BUTTZ> We need food, we need to talk to Hafaz, we need to try out our whistling trait
  1439. [2011-11-20 16:56:45] <Ironybot> That means we have to go home and/or deal with Sometimes Merchant.
  1440. [2011-11-20 16:56:58] <cornelius> If we get our hands on the full cookbook and read it in its' entirety and then practice we might get one
  1441. [2011-11-20 16:56:59] <Wutenheimer> we have a whistling trait?
  1442. [2011-11-20 16:57:03] <A_Greedy_Squid> Yep
  1443. [2011-11-20 16:57:05] <A_Greedy_Squid> Hidden trait
  1444. [2011-11-20 16:57:12] <A_Greedy_Squid> Level...3 I think
  1445. [2011-11-20 16:57:12] <BUTTZ> Level 3 hidden trait, one of the best whistlers in the world
  1446. [2011-11-20 16:57:14] <Wutenheimer> we will use it on the walk over
  1447. [2011-11-20 16:57:14] <cornelius> Armas is apparently one of the best whistlers in the world
  1448. [2011-11-20 16:57:18] <Wutenheimer> wat
  1449. [2011-11-20 16:57:24] <A_Greedy_Squid> You heard them.
  1450. [2011-11-20 16:57:25] <cornelius> Nice one Buttz
  1451. [2011-11-20 16:57:28] <A_Greedy_Squid> One of the best.
  1452. [2011-11-20 16:57:34] <TheBeardiestBob> See, this here is how Armas SHOULD approach fighting magic users http://images.4chan.org/a/src/1321827029651.jpg
  1453. [2011-11-20 16:58:11] <cornelius> So we should become Blackbeard?
  1454. [2011-11-20 16:58:16] <BUTTZ> Gonna have to learn how to do demolitions safely
  1455. [2011-11-20 16:58:38] <A_Greedy_Squid> We have the Russians for that
  1456. [2011-11-20 16:59:03] <BUTTZ> Yeah we could get them to train Armas
  1457. [2011-11-20 16:59:06] <Alratan> Well, posted
  1458. [2011-11-20 16:59:10] <Alratan> does it make sense?
  1459. [2011-11-20 16:59:27] <Arkeus> waking up to read an update :-)
  1460. [2011-11-20 16:59:29] <A_Greedy_Squid> First of all, we should get Chakra and Shooting/HtH combat training for the Russians
  1461. [2011-11-20 16:59:33] <A_Greedy_Squid> Especially from CAmella
  1462. [2011-11-20 17:00:29] <Ironybot> There is a horrible problem with what you posted. Specifically, you completely ignored this line in the update: "[If so you MUST roll with your idea.] "
  1463. [2011-11-20 17:00:47] <cornelius> He addressed that
  1464. [2011-11-20 17:00:51] <BUTTZ> Easily fixed though
  1465. [2011-11-20 17:00:53] <cornelius> He's letting us read it over before he rolls
  1466. [2011-11-20 17:01:08] <cornelius> To point out issues and/improve ideas
  1467. [2011-11-20 17:01:10] <Ironybot> Ah. My mistake, then.
  1468. [2011-11-20 17:01:13] <Ironybot> Apologies.
  1469. [2011-11-20 17:01:22] <Guile> UU - we dont have the russians in our employ yet!
  1470. [2011-11-20 17:01:27] <Guile> cart before the horse
  1471. [2011-11-20 17:01:37] <A_Greedy_Squid> Sometimes you need to prepare the cart.
  1472. [2011-11-20 17:01:47] <A_Greedy_Squid> And the stuff on the cart
  1473. [2011-11-20 17:01:56] <A_Greedy_Squid> So all you need, is the horse, and we're off to a magic ride through wonderland
  1474. [2011-11-20 17:02:09] <Guile> Anyway, these are black ops dudes. they should be willing to pursue strength and advantages in battle without prompting from us
  1475. [2011-11-20 17:02:10] <cornelius> I'm going to stop you before this metaphor becomes strange and unwieldy...
  1476. [2011-11-20 17:02:19] <cornelius> Damn, too late
  1477. [2011-11-20 17:03:28] <MrTT> buttz, guile, can you explain my idea to me?
  1478. [2011-11-20 17:03:41] <MrTT> since i was joking and don't see how it is that it will win us the fight
  1479. [2011-11-20 17:03:49] <MrTT> @Bob: that was awesome
  1480. [2011-11-20 17:03:54] <MrTT> what anime is that from?
  1481. [2011-11-20 17:04:00] <Guile> fate/zero
  1482. [2011-11-20 17:04:03] <Guile> good stuff
  1483. [2011-11-20 17:04:06] <BUTTZ> Armas has a level 7 talky-man trait
  1484. [2011-11-20 17:04:08] <A_Greedy_Squid> Also, I am disapoint there's no music for our spar with Camella
  1485. [2011-11-20 17:04:11] <InsufferableMystic> I want a third eye
  1486. [2011-11-20 17:04:22] <InsufferableMystic> it would be handy
  1487. [2011-11-20 17:04:32] <BUTTZ> All he has to do to win, is start talking during the fight. It's poor form and it won't win any points with Camella or Ito, but it's there
  1488. [2011-11-20 17:04:36] * A_Greedy_Squid shoves a babbythulu into IM's forehead
  1489. [2011-11-20 17:04:39] <cornelius> Third eye?
  1490. [2011-11-20 17:04:43] <cornelius> We only have one eye
  1491. [2011-11-20 17:04:46] <cornelius> We'll need to steal two
  1492. [2011-11-20 17:04:56] <MrTT> get soul eyes like cemalle
  1493. [2011-11-20 17:04:59] <MrTT> camella
  1494. [2011-11-20 17:05:07] <MrTT> 2 soul eyes + 1 real eye = 3
  1495. [2011-11-20 17:05:28] <A_Greedy_Squid> Bob said that if we focus our chakras on our crown chakra, we would unlock some kind of prophetic third eye
  1496. [2011-11-20 17:05:45] <MrTT> looking good is more imprtant than winning
  1497. [2011-11-20 17:06:28] <Alratan> I want to see if we can enchant our metal eye to be able to perceive
  1498. [2011-11-20 17:06:36] <Alratan> in some fashion
  1499. [2011-11-20 17:06:41] <MrTT> i wonder, with our healing, how good are we in shrugging blows?
  1500. [2011-11-20 17:06:45] <MrTT> say, a punc to the stomach?
  1501. [2011-11-20 17:07:02] <MrTT> @alratan, armas already has, for some reason, no loss of perception
  1502. [2011-11-20 17:07:05] <Alratan> it would still count as a loss
  1503. [2011-11-20 17:07:06] <A_Greedy_Squid> She'd probably cause serious internal hemorrhaging
  1504. [2011-11-20 17:07:09] <MrTT> even though he has only one eye
  1505. [2011-11-20 17:07:12] <MrTT> he has no blind spot
  1506. [2011-11-20 17:07:14] <Alratan> I'm not sure
  1507. [2011-11-20 17:07:21] <Alratan> I think we'd be even better with two
  1508. [2011-11-20 17:07:30] <Alratan> anyway, I meant something funky
  1509. [2011-11-20 17:07:31] <A_Greedy_Squid> We can see even MORE than we would with 2 normal eyes, with our 1 eye.
  1510. [2011-11-20 17:07:33] <MrTT> @Greedy squid, and armas insta heals that and perhaps gets her with a hit of his own
  1511. [2011-11-20 17:07:39] <Alratan> like infra-red sight
  1512. [2011-11-20 17:07:47] <Alratan> or te ability to see magic
  1513. [2011-11-20 17:07:55] <A_Greedy_Squid> Or the futuuuuure
  1514. [2011-11-20 17:07:55] <Alratan> or to see things that are hidden
  1515. [2011-11-20 17:08:02] <Arkeus> Camella's soul is very fun
  1516. [2011-11-20 17:08:03] <Arkeus> :-)
  1517. [2011-11-20 17:08:07] <Alratan> like the contents of the eye is hidden
  1518. [2011-11-20 17:08:08] <MrTT> i think most of perception increases are best when coming from soul
  1519. [2011-11-20 17:08:08] <A_Greedy_Squid> No it isnt
  1520. [2011-11-20 17:08:16] <MrTT> we need an en bubble of detection
  1521. [2011-11-20 17:08:19] <A_Greedy_Squid> Her soul...has soul eyes
  1522. [2011-11-20 17:08:22] <Alratan> so, no improvements for my post?
  1523. [2011-11-20 17:08:25] <MrTT> like that einher's pulsed attention
  1524. [2011-11-20 17:08:32] <MrTT> haven't read your post
  1525. [2011-11-20 17:08:35] <MrTT> yet
  1526. [2011-11-20 17:08:35] <Arkeus> MrTT: that we do
  1527. [2011-11-20 17:08:39] <A_Greedy_Squid> read it, MrTT
  1528. [2011-11-20 17:08:44] <MrTT> i don't have the time
  1529. [2011-11-20 17:08:48] <MrTT> i don't have the time to chat with you either
  1530. [2011-11-20 17:08:52] <A_Greedy_Squid> Yet you do have to chat with us
  1531. [2011-11-20 17:08:54] <MrTT> i can't afford to miss my flight and i need to get ready
  1532. [2011-11-20 17:08:56] <Alratan> catch your plane
  1533. [2011-11-20 17:09:04] <A_Greedy_Squid> Sure. You sure are getting ready.
  1534. [2011-11-20 17:09:07] <MrTT> i have 50 minutes to get everything ready.
  1535. [2011-11-20 17:09:24] <Ironybot> So guys, speculation on Ito's notable students, if any?
  1536. [2011-11-20 17:09:25] <MrTT> that includes printing directions to customer, and packing the right equipment (luckily i have most of it already packed
  1537. [2011-11-20 17:09:29] <A_Greedy_Squid> Pack extra underwear.
  1538. [2011-11-20 17:09:33] <MrTT> i did
  1539. [2011-11-20 17:09:37] <MrTT> :)
  1540. [2011-11-20 17:09:37] <A_Greedy_Squid> Good!
  1541. [2011-11-20 17:09:39] <MrTT> clothes already packed
  1542. [2011-11-20 17:09:44] <MrTT> clothes take 1 minute to pack
  1543. [2011-11-20 17:09:49] <A_Greedy_Squid> Never forget extra underweat
  1544. [2011-11-20 17:09:57] <Alratan> we also did something very stupid by not taking a look at Camella's soul from the moment we walked in the door
  1545. [2011-11-20 17:10:08] <Alratan> and only doing so after we already attacked
  1546. [2011-11-20 17:10:10] <A_Greedy_Squid> Or maybe because Bob was too tired to include that
  1547. [2011-11-20 17:10:15] <Ironybot> Apparently we don't reflexively assess souls.
  1548. [2011-11-20 17:10:22] <Alratan> we need to start
  1549. [2011-11-20 17:10:25] <Arkeus> Alratan, if you have a slcik idea, you MUST roll
  1550. [2011-11-20 17:10:29] <Arkeus> why didn't you roll?
  1551. [2011-11-20 17:10:30] <Ironybot> I had thought that we did already, but eh.
  1552. [2011-11-20 17:10:37] <Ironybot> Because he wanted IRC review before locking his post in.
  1553. [2011-11-20 17:10:45] <Alratan> because we can't delete posts with rolls anymore
  1554. [2011-11-20 17:10:49] <A_Greedy_Squid> Could have posted it in discthread
  1555. [2011-11-20 17:10:52] <A_Greedy_Squid> ?discthread
  1556. [2011-11-20 17:10:53] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/347115+50.html
  1557. [2011-11-20 17:11:01] <Alratan> yes, I could
  1558. [2011-11-20 17:11:09] <Arkeus> oh, also
  1559. [2011-11-20 17:11:12] <Alratan> but didn't
  1560. [2011-11-20 17:11:14] <Arkeus> A couple of things to add, then
  1561. [2011-11-20 17:11:28] <Arkeus> First, our chakra are stal attuned to stealth
  1562. [2011-11-20 17:11:35] <Arkeus> And we have soul manip
  1563. [2011-11-20 17:11:36] <Alratan> yes, and?
  1564. [2011-11-20 17:11:39] <A_Greedy_Squid> Let's fixed that to: 'Help SB'
  1565. [2011-11-20 17:11:47] <A_Greedy_Squid> fix*
  1566. [2011-11-20 17:11:50] <Alratan> why
  1567. [2011-11-20 17:12:00] <Alratan> SB is not going to be of any further help today
  1568. [2011-11-20 17:12:03] <A_Greedy_Squid> Cause he needs it. Of course, but that's after the fight
  1569. [2011-11-20 17:12:09] <Arkeus> We cna...gauge.. how her soul sees us, and try to use our goblinoic training to 'hide' our soul the same way we 'hide' our body
  1570. [2011-11-20 17:12:20] <Arkeus> So that we have blind-spot soul fighting
  1571. [2011-11-20 17:12:47] <Arkeus> Well, we can try to
  1572. [2011-11-20 17:12:50] <Alratan> To her soul sense, we curently look like some odd denizen of the NN, not like a human
  1573. [2011-11-20 17:13:03] <A_Greedy_Squid> yip yip
  1574. [2011-11-20 17:13:03] <Alratan> I'm not sure how much more we can do
  1575. [2011-11-20 17:13:11] <BUTTZ> I think it's funny how you think she has soul sense
  1576. [2011-11-20 17:13:21] <A_Greedy_Squid> Not only that, we look like one FUCKED UP denizen of the NN
  1577. [2011-11-20 17:13:21] <BUTTZ> She's just got a finely trained ability to pay attention
  1578. [2011-11-20 17:13:22] <Arkeus> She doesn't have exactly soul sense
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  1580. [2011-11-20 17:13:29] <Arkeus> that uses her soul
  1581. [2011-11-20 17:13:31] <cornelius> For the other students we noted?
  1582. [2011-11-20 17:13:59] <cornelius> The shaved woman makes me think Triad
  1583. [2011-11-20 17:14:00] <Arkeus> Alratan: what i am saying is uses our soul to act on her blind spots liek goblinoic training taught us to do
  1584. [2011-11-20 17:14:07] <Arkeus> The same way we move our body
  1585. [2011-11-20 17:14:12] <cornelius> Did Armas note her race Bob?
  1586. [2011-11-20 17:14:23] <BUTTZ> Remember how Armas noted that even mundane humans have the ability to read Attention
  1587. [2011-11-20 17:14:30] <BUTTZ> It's a feature of having a soul, likely
  1588. [2011-11-20 17:14:31] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: yes
  1589. [2011-11-20 17:14:35] <Arkeus> and it has to do with soul
  1590. [2011-11-20 17:14:37] <Arkeus> indeed
  1591. [2011-11-20 17:14:37] <A_Greedy_Squid> I think Bob's not currently here
  1592. [2011-11-20 17:15:09] <MrTT> armas does somehow have soul eyes
  1593. [2011-11-20 17:15:16] <Alratan> plane!
  1594. [2011-11-20 17:15:17] <MrTT> its how he isn't being impeded by having only one working eye
  1595. [2011-11-20 17:15:18] <Alratan> packing!
  1596. [2011-11-20 17:15:20] <A_Greedy_Squid> Yeah, yet he can't see his own soul
  1597. [2011-11-20 17:15:25] <MrTT> its how he could sense snipers attention on himself
  1598. [2011-11-20 17:15:38] <MrTT> well, can you see your own head with your eyes without a mirror?
  1599. [2011-11-20 17:15:40] <MrTT> oho
  1600. [2011-11-20 17:15:43] <MrTT> SB is our soul mirror
  1601. [2011-11-20 17:15:53] <MrTT> can he scope out our soul and feed it into our senses and vice versa
  1602. [2011-11-20 17:16:01] <Arkeus> <A_Greedy_Squid> Yeah, yet he can't see his own soul <= seeing our own souls is much harder than seeing other's soul
  1603. [2011-11-20 17:16:04] <Arkeus> einrik told us that
  1604. [2011-11-20 17:16:08] <Arkeus> wait, no, amen told us that
  1605. [2011-11-20 17:16:27] <A_Greedy_Squid> Doesn't matter
  1606. [2011-11-20 17:16:34] <A_Greedy_Squid> Hillevi's soul is self-aware
  1607. [2011-11-20 17:16:49] <Arkeus> SBs too tired, though he might be able to give us a sense of approval if we want to use goblinoic stealth with our soul
  1608. [2011-11-20 17:17:07] <Alratan> I can't even comprehend how that would work
  1609. [2011-11-20 17:17:13] <Arkeus> hot/cold kind of stuff
  1610. [2011-11-20 17:17:18] <Arkeus> Alratan: easy
  1611. [2011-11-20 17:17:21] <Alratan> SB has managed to learn how to keep his soul in the NN
  1612. [2011-11-20 17:17:27] <MrTT> hilevi had magical training from birth
  1613. [2011-11-20 17:17:29] <A_Greedy_Squid> No, the Dark.
  1614. [2011-11-20 17:17:33] <Arkeus> We have Goblinoic training in how to read attention and how to evade that attention
  1615. [2011-11-20 17:17:38] <Alratan> The Dark is part of the NN
  1616. [2011-11-20 17:17:42] <Alratan> but I don't think we're learning that in a hurry
  1617. [2011-11-20 17:17:44] <Arkeus> We have our chakra attuned to Goblinoic Stealth
  1618. [2011-11-20 17:17:59] <Alratan> and?
  1619. [2011-11-20 17:17:59] <MrTT> SB is too tired now, we don't do things with him now we do them later
  1620. [2011-11-20 17:18:00] <Arkeus> We need to use that in order to also move/hide/flxible our soul the same way
  1621. [2011-11-20 17:18:04] <A_Greedy_Squid> Something tells me this won't be simple...
  1622. [2011-11-20 17:18:06] <MrTT> armas does not need to see his own soul in this battle
  1623. [2011-11-20 17:18:13] <Arkeus> He doesn't need to SEE it
  1624. [2011-11-20 17:18:31] <Arkeus> but gettign a snse of approval if we manage to use goblinoic stealth with it is good
  1625. [2011-11-20 17:18:50] <Arkeus> Alratan: it has nothing to do with the dark i am talking about
  1626. [2011-11-20 17:19:17] <Arkeus> I am talking about using Goblinoic stealth, the same way we do with our body, but with our soul
  1627. [2011-11-20 17:19:50] <Alratan> Goblin stealth is all about avoiding attention
  1628. [2011-11-20 17:20:02] <Arkeus> By moving in certain ways
  1629. [2011-11-20 17:20:04] <Arkeus> and detecting it
  1630. [2011-11-20 17:20:31] <Arkeus> It's about fluidity and flexibility too
  1631. [2011-11-20 17:20:40] <Arkeus> And our chakra are attuend to goblinoic stealth
  1632. [2011-11-20 17:20:40] <Alratan> not really, the basis of goblin is detecting where people intend to direct their Attention next and dodging that place
  1633. [2011-11-20 17:20:52] <Alratan> Camella does not intend to move her soul eye about
  1634. [2011-11-20 17:20:52] <Arkeus> Not just that
  1635. [2011-11-20 17:21:09] <Arkeus> It's about moving in ways that make people ignore us
  1636. [2011-11-20 17:21:18] <Alratan> so that part of the technique, which is described as essential for the stealth to work, doesn't function
  1637. [2011-11-20 17:21:31] <Alratan> Arkeus: No, not reallt
  1638. [2011-11-20 17:21:32] <Arkeus> Again, Alratan, you are ignorign a lot of the technique
  1639. [2011-11-20 17:21:34] <Alratan> no
  1640. [2011-11-20 17:21:45] <Arkeus> A lot of goblinoic stealth is about flexibility
  1641. [2011-11-20 17:22:15] <Arkeus> Lack of 'noise', lack of 'impact'
  1642. [2011-11-20 17:23:32] <Alratan> ">[Goblin]"-ot enough to simply know where someone's attention is-you must know where it will be. Lacking that, no amount of perception will let you truly Sneak-merely observe, and watch. This is why you must master that sense of attention, muster it into...." "
  1643. [2011-11-20 17:23:33] <Arkeus> It's not just about not being seen
  1644. [2011-11-20 17:23:38] <Arkeus> Yes
  1645. [2011-11-20 17:23:40] <Arkeus> that's a prt
  1646. [2011-11-20 17:23:48] <Alratan> with emphasis on will
  1647. [2011-11-20 17:23:52] <Arkeus> Yes
  1648. [2011-11-20 17:23:57] <Guile> son of a bitch, lost my post because its not accepting youtube videos
  1649. [2011-11-20 17:23:57] <Arkeus> But you are ginoring the rest
  1650. [2011-11-20 17:24:07] <Arkeus> Guile: heh
  1651. [2011-11-20 17:24:08] <Arkeus> :-(
  1652. [2011-11-20 17:24:22] <InsufferableMystic> Go back
  1653. [2011-11-20 17:24:31] <InsufferableMystic> Might still be in edit
  1654. [2011-11-20 17:24:37] <Guile> tried
  1655. [2011-11-20 17:24:42] <InsufferableMystic> :(
  1656. [2011-11-20 17:24:46] <Arkeus> That's why i have it in txt
  1657. [2011-11-20 17:24:54] <Ironybot> Always put your entire post into copy/paste before hitting submit, man. Always.
  1658. [2011-11-20 17:26:18] <Ironybot> On other topics, all the Reapers are supposed to be total badass combatants even before getting into their company, right? Do you think we could tear out a certain soul's combat Traits and steal them for ourselves?
  1659. [2011-11-20 17:26:22] <Guile> I usually do, but I copy pasted the youtube link in after
  1660. [2011-11-20 17:26:35] <Alratan> You know, one of the obvious things the goblins should have taught us, but didn't, is how to sneak around someone who can detect Attention
  1661. [2011-11-20 17:26:42] <Ironybot> Delicious military competence, we must have it.
  1662. [2011-11-20 17:26:48] <Alratan> as you get stuck in a bit of recursive loop
  1663. [2011-11-20 17:27:19] <Alratan> IronyBot; There's a reason I've wanted to buy a lifetimes worth of time training golbins in modern warfre
  1664. [2011-11-20 17:27:23] <BUTTZ> The goblins taught us everything we could learn
  1665. [2011-11-20 17:27:32] <cornelius> Well we can see memories in a soul
  1666. [2011-11-20 17:27:34] <Alratan> not convinced
  1667. [2011-11-20 17:27:35] <cornelius> As a haze around it
  1668. [2011-11-20 17:27:41] <TheBeardiestBob> I.... am conflicted
  1669. [2011-11-20 17:27:42] <cornelius> If we can look at those
  1670. [2011-11-20 17:27:42] <BUTTZ> And, ah, I'd contend that they did cover stealthing from Attention-aware people
  1671. [2011-11-20 17:27:48] <TheBeardiestBob> I want to go out and get some food.
  1672. [2011-11-20 17:27:49] <Ironybot> Buying things from the goblins is bloody expensive.
  1673. [2011-11-20 17:27:50] <Alratan> we didn't learn anything about sneaking up on someone who can see with their soul
  1674. [2011-11-20 17:27:50] <BUTTZ> Look at our initial interaction with the Redcaps
  1675. [2011-11-20 17:27:52] <cornelius> And somehow grab a hold and have say Einrik work them into a useable state
  1676. [2011-11-20 17:27:53] <TheBeardiestBob> But I don't know what KIND.
  1677. [2011-11-20 17:28:04] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: Indian
  1678. [2011-11-20 17:28:09] <TheBeardiestBob> I'm not feeling like mexican, chinese, sushi or indian.
  1679. [2011-11-20 17:28:15] <Alratan> pie
  1680. [2011-11-20 17:28:16] <Ironybot> Pasta?
  1681. [2011-11-20 17:28:19] <cornelius> Greek?
  1682. [2011-11-20 17:28:24] <cornelius> Greek is usually good
  1683. [2011-11-20 17:28:31] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: Korean
  1684. [2011-11-20 17:29:18] <Ironybot> Or get a steak somewhere. Hard to go wrong with large, still-bloody slabs of meat; just ask Armas.
  1685. [2011-11-20 17:29:21] <Arkeus> Also, the way Camella's soul feel familiar (her attention) might be because we DID receive training there
  1686. [2011-11-20 17:29:26] <Arkeus> lol
  1687. [2011-11-20 17:31:45] <MrTT> take a potato, 8 minutes in microwave
  1688. [2011-11-20 17:31:49] <MrTT> put some sour cream on it
  1689. [2011-11-20 17:31:51] <MrTT> and salsa
  1690. [2011-11-20 17:32:06] <MrTT> well... i am done getting ready 30 minutes early
  1691. [2011-11-20 17:32:15] =-= Guile is now known as Guileaway
  1692. [2011-11-20 17:32:23] <MrTT> but... do i have enough time to run to worstbuy and get myself a kindle?
  1693. [2011-11-20 17:32:33] <MrTT> because I don't think I can handle another flight with nothing to do but sleep
  1694. [2011-11-20 17:32:39] <MrTT> or rather, try to
  1695. [2011-11-20 17:34:01] <MrTT> i was gonna buy it earlier
  1696. [2011-11-20 17:34:03] <MrTT> but skyrim happened
  1697. [2011-11-20 17:34:35] <cornelius> Speaking of Skyrim
  1698. [2011-11-20 17:34:37] <cornelius> Skyrim time
  1699. [2011-11-20 17:34:50] <Captain-Lightning> Speaking of speaking of Skyrim
  1700. [2011-11-20 17:34:53] <Captain-Lightning> Skyrim time.
  1701. [2011-11-20 17:36:16] <Arkeus> After wrapping up here, back home or straight to the meeting with Jagda? <= Jagda is the professor, right?
  1702. [2011-11-20 17:36:17] <Wutenheimer> niggers i was already playin skyrim
  1703. [2011-11-20 17:36:25] <Wutenheimer> i was playing skyrim before it was cool
  1704. [2011-11-20 17:36:28] <Arkeus> How the hell can we meet him if we don't have the Kelspie?
  1705. [2011-11-20 17:36:31] <Alratan> Yeah, we're meeting him at home at 6 pm
  1706. [2011-11-20 17:36:32] <BUTTZ> Hey Wut are you going to roll?
  1707. [2011-11-20 17:36:52] <MrTT> i could... spend my last 30 minutes at home for a few day splaying skyrim
  1708. [2011-11-20 17:36:58] <Wutenheimer> roll for what, i dont have a plan
  1709. [2011-11-20 17:37:07] <MrTT> or i could file an expense report so i get my money for last trip a week sooner
  1710. [2011-11-20 17:37:15] <BUTTZ> Money
  1711. [2011-11-20 17:37:16] <Alratan> expense report
  1712. [2011-11-20 17:37:34] <TheBeardiestBob> Money
  1713. [2011-11-20 17:37:40] <Arkeus> lol
  1714. [2011-11-20 17:37:41] <MrTT> yea
  1715. [2011-11-20 17:37:42] <MrTT> you are right
  1716. [2011-11-20 17:37:56] <TheBeardiestBob> Money trumps shenanigans 9/10
  1717. [2011-11-20 17:37:58] <MrTT> and hey, maybe when i come back skyrim would be patched
  1718. [2011-11-20 17:38:03] <Alratan> haha
  1719. [2011-11-20 17:38:04] <Ironybot> The key question you need to answer in order to choose between those options is: Are you powered by GREED, or by SLOTH?
  1720. [2011-11-20 17:38:10] <MrTT> well, i am getting the money either way, its just a matter of getting it now or later
  1721. [2011-11-20 17:38:24] <Alratan> you go on believing it
  1722. [2011-11-20 17:38:25] <Captain-Lightning> Greed.
  1723. [2011-11-20 17:38:27] <MrTT> if i file it now i get it a week earlier
  1724. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <MrTT> its 1000 bucks or so
  1725. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <MrTT> to 1500
  1726. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <BUTTZ> A 1000 bucks you can put to use doing something for you
  1727. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <BUTTZ> Maybe buy stock in one of those companies that makes tear-gas
  1728. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <MrTT> lol
  1729. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <MrTT> more like "pay off credit card"
  1730. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <MrTT> or 'part of credit card"
  1731. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <MrTT> or "student loans"
  1732. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <BUTTZ> Hell yeah
  1733. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <MrTT> but again, i will get it, its just a week early
  1734. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <BUTTZ> Interest you aren't paying is interest you're not being bled
  1735. [2011-11-20 17:39:50] <MrTT> so... how much is one week of interest worth?
  1736. [2011-11-20 17:39:59] <Alratan> it's one week less chance for the company to go tits up and never pay you back
  1737. [2011-11-20 17:40:04] <MrTT> and btw, i am currently scanning receipts furiously
  1738. [2011-11-20 17:40:11] <MrTT> that is true alratan
  1739. [2011-11-20 17:40:14] <MrTT> very true
  1740. [2011-11-20 17:40:16] <MrTT> and a possibility
  1741. [2011-11-20 17:40:41] <Alratan> it happened to people I knew at Lehmans
  1742. [2011-11-20 17:40:53] <Alratan> they never got the money back
  1743. [2011-11-20 17:41:29] <Arkeus> Did bob say what the Bonus gave us?
  1744. [2011-11-20 17:41:37] <BUTTZ> Not to my knowledge
  1745. [2011-11-20 17:41:47] <MrTT> damn
  1746. [2011-11-20 17:42:30] <MrTT> mmm... technically i am a contractor not an employee. this could matter a lot. Maybe I should start demanding they give an advance for my expenses before each trip
  1747. [2011-11-20 17:43:00] <Ironybot> Are your skills specialized enough that they are catering to your demands on that sort of thing?
  1748. [2011-11-20 17:43:24] <MrTT> maybe
  1749. [2011-11-20 17:43:48] <Alratan> MrTT: it's unsecured debt either way
  1750. [2011-11-20 17:43:59] <Alratan> best thing to do is get the claim in as soon as posisble
  1751. [2011-11-20 17:44:04] <Alratan> every time
  1752. [2011-11-20 17:44:11] <Alratan> and not let large balances build up
  1753. [2011-11-20 17:45:16] <Alratan> Final beta version of post for review
  1754. [2011-11-20 17:46:48] <Alratan> I'll post with a roll in 15 mins
  1755. [2011-11-20 17:46:56] <Alratan> so if anyone has any comments, let me know
  1756. [2011-11-20 17:47:05] <BUTTZ> I
  1757. [2011-11-20 17:47:09] <BUTTZ> will read it
  1758. [2011-11-20 17:48:28] <Arkeus> That's ok
  1759. [2011-11-20 17:48:53] <Arkeus> Be more precise in "we can't go to jegda anyway as we don't have klepsies on us, so we need a detour to SM"
  1760. [2011-11-20 17:51:21] <cornelius> Finishing the White Phial quest
  1761. [2011-11-20 17:51:25] <cornelius> What should I get it filled with?
  1762. [2011-11-20 17:54:09] <BUTTZ> "Ask Ito for his permission, and then his advice on integrating the Jukenjitsu he taught us with the Kas Pin we just demonstrated in the bout with Camella. "
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  1764. [2011-11-20 17:54:33] <BUTTZ> That's a subject that could take hours to cover properly
  1765. [2011-11-20 17:55:15] <BUTTZ> We should do it later
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  1768. [2011-11-20 17:57:07] <Alratan> BUTTZ: We have hours
  1769. [2011-11-20 17:58:12] <Alratan> we have no where to be until Jagda arrives at the mansion at 6
  1770. [2011-11-20 17:58:14] <Alratan> as we can arrange Kelpie to be delivered at any point
  1771. [2011-11-20 17:58:41] <BUTTZ> We need time to cook, time to deal with Hafaz, time to prepare for our Redcap guests...
  1772. [2011-11-20 17:58:48] <BUTTZ> Unless you want to feed one of the prisoners to them I guess
  1773. [2011-11-20 17:59:15] <Alratan> We need to prepare for the Redcaps after Jagda leaves, in any case
  1774. [2011-11-20 17:59:19] <Ironybot> Jagda is not coming to our mansion, so far as I know. We never gave him our address.
  1775. [2011-11-20 17:59:28] <Samar> or did we...
  1776. [2011-11-20 17:59:31] <Alratan> We don't know his either
  1777. [2011-11-20 17:59:38] <Ironybot> Or at least, if we did I overlooked it.
  1778. [2011-11-20 17:59:45] <BUTTZ> We really should check on the old apartment at some point too
  1779. [2011-11-20 17:59:49] <Alratan> just where his office is
  1780. [2011-11-20 17:59:52] <Ironybot> We obviously found him all right the first time.
  1781. [2011-11-20 18:00:19] <Alratan> which, given that it's university holiday time
  1782. [2011-11-20 18:00:19] <Alratan> he won't be in
  1783. [2011-11-20 18:00:23] <Ironybot> Hrm. Point. Okay, well, I guess we call him and ask where to go? Or... something. I don't really want him coming by our mansion right now.
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  1785. [2011-11-20 18:00:41] <BUTTZ> Maybe
  1786. [2011-11-20 18:00:49] <BUTTZ> Maybe we could have him come to the dojo
  1787. [2011-11-20 18:01:19] <Alratan> DOn't like that idea
  1788. [2011-11-20 18:01:35] <BUTTZ> We could go to the old apartment and check it out
  1789. [2011-11-20 18:01:35] <Ironybot> I don't really want the professor associated with any of our contacts. Or for that matter being connected with us in the eyes of those who are apparently watching us unceasingly.
  1790. [2011-11-20 18:01:42] <BUTTZ> Make sure it's safe and use the old appartment
  1791. [2011-11-20 18:02:15] <BUTTZ> Or we could just rent a hotel room to host him for a few hours.
  1792. [2011-11-20 18:02:26] <Alratan> A conference room in a hotel
  1793. [2011-11-20 18:02:30] <Alratan> SOunds best
  1794. [2011-11-20 18:02:31] <BUTTZ> Nice ones will have an en suite kitchen
  1795. [2011-11-20 18:02:41] <Alratan> conference suite
  1796. [2011-11-20 18:02:46] <Alratan> I'll suggest that
  1797. [2011-11-20 18:03:00] <Ironybot> Pricey to get on short notice. Why not ust ask him where his house is?
  1798. [2011-11-20 18:03:15] <Alratan> would you tell us?
  1799. [2011-11-20 18:03:24] <Alratan> also, it's off season
  1800. [2011-11-20 18:03:25] <Ironybot> He doesn't seem anywhere near as paranoid as we are.
  1801. [2011-11-20 18:03:30] <Alratan> so hotels may well be cheap
  1802. [2011-11-20 18:03:34] <BUTTZ> Well considering all he knows about Armas is that Armas brought him a REALLY weird book
  1803. [2011-11-20 18:06:31] <Alratan> No other changes?
  1804. [2011-11-20 18:06:56] <Alratan> I've just deleted and am about to post
  1805. [2011-11-20 18:06:59] <Ironybot> I am experiencing technical difficulties and have not given your post a thorough review. Apologies.
  1806. [2011-11-20 18:07:25] <Alratan> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/347115+50.html
  1807. [2011-11-20 18:07:39] <BUTTZ> I think we should focus on SotG integration rather than M7 attempts
  1808. [2011-11-20 18:07:44] <A_Greedy_Squid> ^
  1809. [2011-11-20 18:07:50] <A_Greedy_Squid> No fuck that. BOTH
  1810. [2011-11-20 18:08:11] <Alratan> Teh first M7 is an attempt to get us the time and confidence to make the attempt
  1811. [2011-11-20 18:08:17] <BUTTZ> Yeah I get that
  1812. [2011-11-20 18:08:41] <BUTTZ> Too bad we can't displace our sense of attention on her so that it appears to come from elsewhere
  1813. [2011-11-20 18:08:57] <Alratan> The second is an attempt to actually make M7 into a combat trait of sorts, merging it with our SotG
  1814. [2011-11-20 18:09:19] <Alratan> as M7 is general manipulation, not just words
  1815. [2011-11-20 18:09:54] <BUTTZ> We really just need some time to fully integrate Kas Pin I guess
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  1817. [2011-11-20 18:11:06] <Alratan> We should work out with Hillevi every day
  1818. [2011-11-20 18:11:17] <Alratan> Actually, we should do so after this spar with Camella
  1819. [2011-11-20 18:12:48] <Alratan> Wish me luck
  1820. [2011-11-20 18:13:02] <Alratan> dice 1d100, isn't it?
  1821. [2011-11-20 18:13:17] <InsufferableMystic> Actually we can work with having someone's attention on us, instead of trying to escape it we should manipulate it
  1822. [2011-11-20 18:13:37] <Ironybot> Yes, that was discussed earlier.
  1823. [2011-11-20 18:13:44] <Alratan> Yep, that's what nearly what I propose
  1824. [2011-11-20 18:13:45] <InsufferableMystic> Good
  1825. [2011-11-20 18:13:50] <Arkeus> That's part of Alratan's paln
  1826. [2011-11-20 18:13:59] <A_Greedy_Squid> I want to do something MAD...
  1827. [2011-11-20 18:14:00] <Alratan> although I'm actually proposing manipulating their intention t move Attention somewhere
  1828. [2011-11-20 18:14:06] <InsufferableMystic> Left and right hands etc...?
  1829. [2011-11-20 18:14:23] <Arkeus> Alratan: point out that Kas pin relies on such subterfuge as a matter of course
  1830. [2011-11-20 18:14:49] <Alratan> good point
  1831. [2011-11-20 18:16:28] <Alratan> 57
  1832. [2011-11-20 18:16:35] <Alratan> well, it could have been worse
  1833. [2011-11-20 18:16:42] <Alratan> but it could have been a lot better
  1834. [2011-11-20 18:16:57] <Alratan> well, shame those ideas will go nowhere fast
  1835. [2011-11-20 18:17:02] <Alratan> speak to you tomorrow
  1836. [2011-11-20 18:17:10] <Alratan> I hope I will wake to see an update ;)
  1837. [2011-11-20 18:17:27] <Arkeus> lol
  1838. [2011-11-20 18:17:30] <Arkeus> We can dream
  1839. [2011-11-20 18:20:20] <A_Greedy_Squid> Whoa, 57.
  1840. [2011-11-20 18:20:22] <A_Greedy_Squid> Not bad.
  1841. [2011-11-20 18:20:54] <Ironybot> It won't be enough to defeat Camella's probability manipulation powers.
  1842. [2011-11-20 18:21:15] <Arkeus> ;_;
  1843. [2011-11-20 18:21:23] <Arkeus> Damn numbers
  1844. [2011-11-20 18:21:34] <Arkeus> Going into battle with Camella is a hard, hard world
  1845. [2011-11-20 18:21:56] <A_Greedy_Squid> We're having problems already, and this is just sparring
  1846. [2011-11-20 18:22:07] <Arkeus> I am getting camella's "so strong they should kill you" opponent don't last ten seconds
  1847. [2011-11-20 18:22:36] <A_Greedy_Squid> Camella+2 axes+Berserker RAEG=you don't even get time to prepare your anus
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  1849. [2011-11-20 18:23:12] <Arkeus> Not sure i like Arlatan talking about M7 inthread
  1850. [2011-11-20 18:25:20] <Guile> Al, bob said he would ID interesting souls as they came up. Maybe Camella's soul only started unfolding and doing the spiritual attention everywhere trick during the fight?
  1851. [2011-11-20 18:25:39] <Guile> or I guess it could be because it was more interesting narratively
  1852. [2011-11-20 18:25:39] <Ironybot> I'm looking forward to fighting Camella at night, when we can go all out- and introduce Shadowbro to the question. To the best of my knowledge, Camella has no defense whatsoever against him, nor ability to strike back at him.
  1853. [2011-11-20 18:25:56] <Ironybot> Question->equation. That figure of speech kind of fell apart there.
  1854. [2011-11-20 18:26:12] <Ironybot> Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what she comes up with.
  1855. [2011-11-20 18:26:59] <Guile> should we bother? I dont see any real reason to bring SB or Sake to a fight with Camella. I'd really rather keep aces sleeved, even against her
  1856. [2011-11-20 18:27:12] <Guile> and its not like we need to win fights with her
  1857. [2011-11-20 18:29:09] <Ironybot> I think it would be a valuable training experience for both parties. All three parties, rather.
  1858. [2011-11-20 18:29:53] <Guile> if she has no defense against it...?
  1859. [2011-11-20 18:30:25] <Guile> maybe valuable for the next time we run into Cornelius, I guess
  1860. [2011-11-20 18:30:31] <Guile> heh
  1861. [2011-11-20 18:32:05] <Ironybot> If she has no defense against it, then it's all the more important to train with her- because you better believe that she'll bend her energies to coming up with a defense as soon as she can.
  1862. [2011-11-20 18:33:26] <A_Greedy_Squid> Oh boy
  1863. [2011-11-20 18:33:29] <A_Greedy_Squid> Bringing Sake
  1864. [2011-11-20 18:33:36] <A_Greedy_Squid> And Camella thinks he's our "exotic" pet
  1865. [2011-11-20 18:34:58] <Ironybot> Any opinions on Ito's review of us? It made me laugh. "When you left, you had power but sucked. Now you've returned with even more power, and you STILL suck!"
  1866. [2011-11-20 18:40:02] <Arkeus> Going to post soon
  1867. [2011-11-20 18:40:06] <Arkeus> Be ready to kill me
  1868. [2011-11-20 18:40:11] <Arkeus> Especially if i have a poor roll
  1869. [2011-11-20 18:40:19] * A_Greedy_Squid binds Arkeus
  1870. [2011-11-20 18:40:26] <A_Greedy_Squid> Let me do the rolling, please?
  1871. [2011-11-20 18:40:30] <Arkeus> Guile: We didn't even look at her souls at first
  1872. [2011-11-20 18:40:31] <Arkeus> A_Greedy_Squid: no
  1873. [2011-11-20 18:40:39] <A_Greedy_Squid> D:
  1874. [2011-11-20 18:41:16] <Arkeus> Ironybot: lol
  1875. [2011-11-20 18:41:21] <TMIoverload> Go ahead and roll Ark, I've got a good feeling about yours. And a horrible one about anyone else's
  1876. [2011-11-20 18:41:29] <A_Greedy_Squid> Pfft
  1877. [2011-11-20 18:41:34] <A_Greedy_Squid> I feel the opposite about him
  1878. [2011-11-20 18:41:57] <TMIoverload> Which is why I'm not rolling, despite having an average in Quest in the sixties or seventies
  1879. [2011-11-20 18:42:25] <TMIoverload> Well, that's what it was half-way through last thread.
  1880. [2011-11-20 18:42:33] <TMIoverload> Haven't re-checked that
  1881. [2011-11-20 18:43:09] <A_Greedy_Squid> Hurry up and pooost
  1882. [2011-11-20 18:43:14] <A_Greedy_Squid> Can't stop refreshing the thread
  1883. [2011-11-20 18:45:02] <TMIoverload> Man, I miss dreamer. Still remember that double max-roll that was had
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  1885. [2011-11-20 18:49:04] <Ironybot> What's the rush to post? Might as well try for useful numbers again instead of being hasty.
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  1887. [2011-11-20 18:49:09] =-= Dart666_ is now known as Dart666
  1888. [2011-11-20 18:49:19] <A_Greedy_Squid> I want to know how much he'll roll
  1889. [2011-11-20 18:51:01] <Wutenheimer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u51rkwb94Jg
  1890. [2011-11-20 18:51:02] <Classhole> Wutenheimer: Octavia and co. play some epic music - length 6m 58s - rated 4.87/5.0 (120) - 12746 views - DayBreakization on 2011.05.27
  1891. [2011-11-20 18:52:05] <Wutenheimer> i need to stop watchin pony videos and go to work D:
  1892. [2011-11-20 18:52:41] <TMIoverload> Is that face because you're late, have to go to work, or because you have to stop watching pony videos?
  1893. [2011-11-20 18:52:54] <Wutenheimer> the last two i guess
  1894. [2011-11-20 18:53:08] <Wutenheimer> not late yet
  1895. [2011-11-20 18:53:13] <Arkeus> Btw, i have quite a few ideas. Should i roll more than once?
  1896. [2011-11-20 18:53:22] <Arkeus> Though they all come down to the same suppositions
  1897. [2011-11-20 18:53:22] <TMIoverload> No
  1898. [2011-11-20 18:53:25] <Arkeus> ok
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  1900. [2011-11-20 18:57:29] <Arkeus> *praying for good dices*
  1901. [2011-11-20 18:58:01] <Arkeus> Cool
  1902. [2011-11-20 18:58:02] <Arkeus> 72
  1903. [2011-11-20 19:01:44] <Samar> .dice 1d100
  1904. [2011-11-20 19:01:45] <Classhole> Samar: Average(3.00) Total(3) Rolled(1d100=3)
  1905. [2011-11-20 19:01:59] <Ironybot> ...
  1906. [2011-11-20 19:02:00] <Samar> good thing I didnt post that.
  1907. [2011-11-20 19:02:02] <Arkeus> lol
  1908. [2011-11-20 19:02:14] <Arkeus> So, can soemone do a fanart of drunken master Armas?
  1909. [2011-11-20 19:02:16] <Arkeus> or something?
  1910. [2011-11-20 19:02:23] <Arkeus> *pokes guile*
  1911. [2011-11-20 19:02:25] <A_Greedy_Squid> Drunken master Armas...oh god
  1912. [2011-11-20 19:02:27] <Guile> one taoist trick we've seen it to turn anything that gets plastered with the charms into as close to impregnable as we've yet seen. should that be the first one we go for?
  1913. [2011-11-20 19:02:29] <A_Greedy_Squid> Kyrppa Peiko
  1914. [2011-11-20 19:02:50] <Arkeus> Guile: huh, don't think so
  1915. [2011-11-20 19:03:09] <Arkeus> While that might be really useful for PMC, keep in mind that other chakra ability can do that anyway
  1916. [2011-11-20 19:03:26] <TMIoverload> Hey guys, SB is still recuperating and doesn't want to be bothered. As this is just sparring, we really shouldn't be trying to get him to do or answer anything
  1917. [2011-11-20 19:03:33] <Arkeus> And if we get ito to teach us harden, we might not want to 'waste' time learning charms of things we can already do
  1918. [2011-11-20 19:03:34] <Guile> but we can do it while chakra is aspected to something else
  1919. [2011-11-20 19:03:57] <Arkeus> TMIoverload: that's why i just thought of him giving us 'impressions'
  1920. [2011-11-20 19:04:05] <Arkeus> it's much easier than talking
  1921. [2011-11-20 19:04:36] <TMIoverload> You also said having us guide him, and no, as that requires him to think about it. His straining is primarily mental. he basicly needs to relax and not think
  1922. [2011-11-20 19:04:37] <Guile> well, what else have we seen taoism do? Go Ping heals, the Disciples get superhuman stats and their weapons do some nasty damage, there's the Leaping Corpses, plus whatever the souls-inna-box are being used for
  1923. [2011-11-20 19:04:40] <Arkeus> Guile: Well, chakra and soul are probably thing we'll be able to aspect on the fly
  1924. [2011-11-20 19:04:52] <A_Greedy_Squid> NOAP
  1925. [2011-11-20 19:04:59] <A_Greedy_Squid> CHAKRA TAKES AT LEAST ONE DAY MEDITATING
  1926. [2011-11-20 19:05:08] <Guile> he didnt even want to talk to us, remember; for a purely mental construct like him, exhaustion hurts his brain, I think
  1927. [2011-11-20 19:05:09] <Arkeus> A_Greedy_Squid: not for us
  1928. [2011-11-20 19:05:15] <TMIoverload> Greed, that was before we had soul bloodlines
  1929. [2011-11-20 19:05:20] <Arkeus> Guile: there is that thing he uses to ward communication
  1930. [2011-11-20 19:05:27] <Guile> that might be tech
  1931. [2011-11-20 19:05:41] <A_Greedy_Squid> Hmm. Okay, prob not 1 day, but I'm sure we can't do it 'on the fly'
  1932. [2011-11-20 19:05:53] <Arkeus> Guile: keep in mind that approval/disapproval is soemthing he could do when he couldn't EVEN talk to us at all
  1933. [2011-11-20 19:06:02] <Arkeus> So i'd say it cost him much, much less
  1934. [2011-11-20 19:06:02] <TMIoverload> With internal soul manipulation, we might.
  1935. [2011-11-20 19:06:12] <Guile> I mean, he may be so exhausted he doesnt even want to THINK
  1936. [2011-11-20 19:06:13] <TMIoverload> We'd need to wait for our bloodline to be completed probably though
  1937. [2011-11-20 19:06:22] <Arkeus> Guile: ah, i think he can think
  1938. [2011-11-20 19:06:27] <Arkeus> iirc, he said he was ok with that
  1939. [2011-11-20 19:06:27] <A_Greedy_Squid> We'd need to wait for bloodline, and Laib training
  1940. [2011-11-20 19:06:39] <Arkeus> not just laib training
  1941. [2011-11-20 19:06:40] <TMIoverload> He can, but he doesn't want to Ark. He's mentally strained
  1942. [2011-11-20 19:06:41] <Arkeus> chakra training
  1943. [2011-11-20 19:06:45] <Arkeus> Yes
  1944. [2011-11-20 19:06:55] <A_Greedy_Squid> Chakra training, bloodline and Laib training
  1945. [2011-11-20 19:06:56] <A_Greedy_Squid> Fuck year
  1946. [2011-11-20 19:07:04] <Arkeus> But thinking is something he doesn't mind, iirc
  1947. [2011-11-20 19:07:09] <Arkeus> A_Greedy_Squid: not just laib, btw
  1948. [2011-11-20 19:07:12] <Arkeus> but, yeah
  1949. [2011-11-20 19:07:14] <Guile> and we disagree
  1950. [2011-11-20 19:07:22] <Arkeus> i'll try to find quotes
  1951. [2011-11-20 19:07:23] <A_Greedy_Squid> Also, Remember what bob said
  1952. [2011-11-20 19:07:30] <Arkeus> A_Greedy_Squid: about?
  1953. [2011-11-20 19:07:41] <A_Greedy_Squid> The more lives we have stored, the less chance of us fucking up on soul manip
  1954. [2011-11-20 19:08:06] <Captain-Lightning> This channel
  1955. [2011-11-20 19:08:08] <Captain-Lightning> Makes me rage
  1956. [2011-11-20 19:08:12] <Guile> I suppose SB art would help him recover faster
  1957. [2011-11-20 19:08:13] <Samar> why?
  1958. [2011-11-20 19:08:14] <Arkeus> >"Yes, and please leave me be unless the question is important, conserving energy." <= conserving energy
  1959. [2011-11-20 19:08:15] <A_Greedy_Squid> Why?
  1960. [2011-11-20 19:08:25] <Arkeus> Guile: yeah, possibly
  1961. [2011-11-20 19:08:34] <A_Greedy_Squid> No one's saying the G-word
  1962. [2011-11-20 19:08:42] <Arkeus> your nale
  1963. [2011-11-20 19:08:44] <Arkeus> name
  1964. [2011-11-20 19:08:49] <A_Greedy_Squid> It has a y
  1965. [2011-11-20 19:08:49] <TMIoverload> He isn't just conserving energy. We were outright told that he's been mentally strained
  1966. [2011-11-20 19:09:08] <Arkeus> TMIoverload: not 'strained'
  1967. [2011-11-20 19:09:11] <Arkeus> exhausted
  1968. [2011-11-20 19:09:21] <Samar> he is undergoing backlash of NN training
  1969. [2011-11-20 19:09:24] <TMIoverload> The y changes nothing. I use meh somewhere else, and the word somehow sets my thing off
  1970. [2011-11-20 19:09:27] <Samar> plus his prior exhaustion
  1971. [2011-11-20 19:10:22] <Arkeus> >[Iron Trick]"Doubtful. A shadowbeing's recoil for temporal disassociation is a bit too... intellectual for them to do much of anything until it passes. Thankfully the recovery period is far shorter than a mortals."
  1972. [2011-11-20 19:10:36] <A_Greedy_Squid> Fine, imma change my nick
  1973. [2011-11-20 19:10:44] =-= A_Greedy_Squid is now known as A_Hungry_Shark
  1974. [2011-11-20 19:10:57] <A_Hungry_Shark> :D
  1975. [2011-11-20 19:11:05] <TMIoverload> Why don't you go back to your old one and stick to one name
  1976. [2011-11-20 19:11:08] <Arkeus> But, yeah, i don't think asking SB to gives us 'disapproval/approval' is in any way a tenth as hard as him guiding us throguh tunnels for ten minutes
  1977. [2011-11-20 19:11:09] <TMIoverload> :D
  1978. [2011-11-20 19:11:39] <A_Hungry_Shark> Let's...let's just let him rest
  1979. [2011-11-20 19:11:56] <A_Hungry_Shark> And we should also bargain for some shadowfiend meat/heart
  1980. [2011-11-20 19:12:01] <Arkeus> Yes, we should
  1981. [2011-11-20 19:12:04] <Arkeus> we REALLY should
  1982. [2011-11-20 19:12:30] <A_Hungry_Shark> Also, I wonder...when we eat something, wouldn't SB eat it too? Since...you know, he eats it's shadow
  1983. [2011-11-20 19:12:39] <Arkeus> he recovers some of it
  1984. [2011-11-20 19:12:58] <Arkeus> if we had regenerator high-quality stuff, it would help a bit, i think
  1985. [2011-11-20 19:13:11] <A_Hungry_Shark> And it would be pretty awesome, if we had SB do the opposite of what we do
  1986. [2011-11-20 19:13:19] <A_Hungry_Shark> >Raise right arm >Shadow raises Left arm
  1987. [2011-11-20 19:13:34] <A_Hungry_Shark> >Dance >Shadow stays still
  1988. [2011-11-20 19:13:36] <TMIoverload> By awesome you mean a needless tell
  1989. [2011-11-20 19:14:07] <A_Hungry_Shark> >.<"
  1990. [2011-11-20 19:14:33] <Arkeus> And, yeah
  1991. [2011-11-20 19:14:48] <Arkeus> Leting our 'ID' fight would probably thwart her ability to sense us
  1992. [2011-11-20 19:15:29] <A_Hungry_Shark> Oh god yes...but oh god no, Having IDArmas go on a rampage in Istanbul
  1993. [2011-11-20 19:16:11] <Guile> a little much to win one spar, dont you think?
  1994. [2011-11-20 19:16:32] <Arkeus> Indeed, that's why i didn't suggest it
  1995. [2011-11-20 19:16:43] <Arkeus> Drunken Master!Armas is already a bit much
  1996. [2011-11-20 19:17:19] <Arkeus> Also, if someone wants to make a R post, you can theorize right now that Drunken-Masters are done mainly in order to thwart other people's detection ability
  1997. [2011-11-20 19:17:55] <Samar> except Armas knows that already
  1998. [2011-11-20 19:18:08] <Samar> children and drunks can see through his goblinic stealth
  1999. [2011-11-20 19:18:45] <Arkeus> I am saying that Drunken Martial Arts are *made* for that
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  2001. [2011-11-20 19:23:53] <Ironybot> I doubt that an entire form of martial arts would be developed solely to thwart our kind of Attention-sensing. Makes me wonder if abilities which detect the intent or focus of opponents are relatively common.
  2002. [2011-11-20 19:24:13] <Arkeus> Oh, i totally agree
  2003. [2011-11-20 19:24:52] <Arkeus> And yes, i expect that abilities that use soul-sensing to detect what one's going to do is relatively common
  2004. [2011-11-20 19:25:43] <Arkeus> I really think we need fanarts, if anyone's feeling up to them
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  2006. [2011-11-20 19:26:04] <Arkeus> Countdown
  2007. [2011-11-20 19:26:57] <Arkeus> Also, trying to link False!Drunkeness-Soul!Stealth
  2008. [2011-11-20 19:27:27] <Ironybot> I really don't think that a basic spar with Camella is worth deploying fanart over.
  2009. [2011-11-20 19:28:48] <Arkeus> It is if it helps us get a new ability
  2010. [2011-11-20 19:28:59] <Samar> this fight has the potential to get us the ability to avoid soul perception
  2011. [2011-11-20 19:29:16] <Arkeus> Also, gotta lol at us monopolizing the last update Ironybot
  2012. [2011-11-20 19:29:28] <Ironybot> Well, we did have some pretty solid suggestions.
  2013. [2011-11-20 19:29:42] <Arkeus> And some pretty solid post numbers
  2014. [2011-11-20 19:29:58] <Ironybot> I was sad that we didn't get Camella to agree to teach Hillevi to drive, though. That would have been great.
  2015. [2011-11-20 19:30:14] <Samar> no car
  2016. [2011-11-20 19:30:23] <Ironybot> A minor problem.
  2017. [2011-11-20 19:30:53] <Samar> well, let me rephrase
  2018. [2011-11-20 19:30:58] <Samar> no car that can seat a Valkonen
  2019. [2011-11-20 19:31:43] <Ironybot> That is merely an excuse to find one- something sure to bring about ADVENTURE.
  2020. [2011-11-20 19:32:01] <A_Hungry_Shark> ADVENTURE is good
  2021. [2011-11-20 19:32:38] <TMIoverload> Adventure is good only after we finish the pressing issues we have.
  2022. [2011-11-20 19:33:01] <Ironybot> This would be adventure for Camella and Hillevi.
  2023. [2011-11-20 19:33:19] <Samar> oh god...
  2024. [2011-11-20 19:33:28] <Samar> M7 vs car salesman.
  2025. [2011-11-20 19:33:28] <Ironybot> Hillevi has a debit card backed by the Valkonen bank account, so they would go on a shopping trip...
  2026. [2011-11-20 19:34:20] <TMIoverload> Is Hillevi's a direct link to the Valkonen's account? i thought it was her own separate account
  2027. [2011-11-20 19:34:24] <Dart666> i kinda want to find a way of restoring Ito youth
  2028. [2011-11-20 19:34:45] <Samar> we have a way, all we have to do is ask
  2029. [2011-11-20 19:35:10] <Arkeus> Dart666: bob confirmed Lo Fang's technique would work on ito
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  2031. [2011-11-20 19:35:20] <Arkeus> wb Guile
  2032. [2011-11-20 19:35:28] <TMIoverload> Lo Fang slows his aging, he doesn't reverse it
  2033. [2011-11-20 19:35:32] <Guile> thanks. anything interesting while I was gone>?
  2034. [2011-11-20 19:35:33] <Dart666> just to see how strong he would be at his prime
  2035. [2011-11-20 19:35:46] <Samar> reverse aging..
  2036. [2011-11-20 19:35:52] <Samar> sounds like a job for Whaitiri
  2037. [2011-11-20 19:36:02] <Arkeus> TMIoverload: i asked last night
  2038. [2011-11-20 19:36:04] <Arkeus> he said yes
  2039. [2011-11-20 19:36:18] <TMIoverload> Send me the exact quote?
  2040. [2011-11-20 19:36:19] <Guile> we talking about Ito versus Lo Fang? Bob said the other day it's less a technique and more a side-effect of being a chakra master
  2041. [2011-11-20 19:36:49] <Arkeus> [20-11 | 05:36:58] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: could chakra age-maintenace revers ito's age?
  2042. [2011-11-20 19:36:55] <Arkeus> [20-11 | 05:42:16] <TheBeardiestBob> Actually yeah, Ito could feel and move like Lo Fang if he were comperably accomplished with Chakra
  2043. [2011-11-20 19:36:59] <Dart666> we must make him learn it
  2044. [2011-11-20 19:37:10] <BUTTZ> Make him learn it?
  2045. [2011-11-20 19:37:29] <Ironybot> Note that Bob didn't specify the use of a particular technique- it's if Ito reached Lo Fang's level of chakra accomplishment.
  2046. [2011-11-20 19:37:38] <Ironybot> Which is... not a small upgrade from where he is now.
  2047. [2011-11-20 19:37:54] <BUTTZ> I like how Ito is all "Whatever weird things you've met, you've got huge potential and all the finesse of a drunk ox"
  2048. [2011-11-20 19:37:58] <Arkeus> Ironybot: indeed
  2049. [2011-11-20 19:38:04] <Arkeus> Ito's better than i thought, though
  2050. [2011-11-20 19:38:12] <Arkeus> And i think he could reach there
  2051. [2011-11-20 19:38:54] <Guile> nah
  2052. [2011-11-20 19:39:03] <InsufferableMystic> Ito is something Lo Fang will never be; A nice friend
  2053. [2011-11-20 19:39:08] <TMIoverload> Ark, I think Ito is too old to reach that height through pure mundane teachings unless Lo Fang dropped everything to teach him. Lo Fang is older then he looks and all
  2054. [2011-11-20 19:39:11] <Guile> if he's spent his life getting to where he's at, he's not gonna suddenly hit the plateau in the next year or two
  2055. [2011-11-20 19:39:25] <Guile> well, nice is comparative... less shitty than some of our friends
  2056. [2011-11-20 19:39:56] <Arkeus> TMIoverload: 'comparably'
  2057. [2011-11-20 19:40:00] <Arkeus> he also said
  2058. [2011-11-20 19:40:29] <Arkeus> <TheBeardiestBob> chakra experts can push two hundred if they don't do something stupid.
  2059. [2011-11-20 19:41:26] <Ironybot> Which means that Lo Fang is basically in his early-mid career right now, even if he's really in his what, seventies or eighties I believe is the figure I've heard thrown around in here.
  2060. [2011-11-20 19:41:47] <Guile> something like that
  2061. [2011-11-20 19:43:16] <Arkeus> Yeah
  2062. [2011-11-20 19:43:29] <Arkeus> And he is better than the official premier chakra user in Turkey
  2063. [2011-11-20 19:44:10] <BUTTZ> No doubt about it, he cheated somehow
  2064. [2011-11-20 19:44:36] <Arkeus> Or most of the truly great chakra users hide
  2065. [2011-11-20 19:44:44] <Dart666> he might just be a genius
  2066. [2011-11-20 19:45:11] <BUTTZ> He's power-hungry and manipulative. He's a more subtle and patient version of Armas.
  2067. [2011-11-20 19:45:17] <BUTTZ> He cheated.
  2068. [2011-11-20 19:45:31] <Ironybot> Or China is full of Chakra masters, with every town of a few thousand having one.
  2069. [2011-11-20 19:45:43] <Ironybot> We don't know how common they are in what has been cited as the most magical nation on the planet.
  2070. [2011-11-20 19:45:52] <Guile> and he got kicked out of the Northern Shaolin temple for something, probably being power-hungry and manipulative
  2071. [2011-11-20 19:46:49] <Guile> although really, Im pretty sure the Shaolins teach anybody that has the coin and is willing to make a token effort to fit in
  2072. [2011-11-20 19:46:59] <Guile> these days
  2073. [2011-11-20 19:47:22] <Ironybot> I don't know if that would apply to their, y'know, master-level secrets.
  2074. [2011-11-20 19:47:33] <Arkeus> I doubt they teach high-end chakra stuff
  2075. [2011-11-20 19:48:19] <Dart666> we really should start doing some real training
  2076. [2011-11-20 19:48:41] <Guile> guess it depends on the master
  2077. [2011-11-20 19:48:52] <Guile> or some real jobs
  2078. [2011-11-20 19:48:53] <Guile> MONEY
  2079. [2011-11-20 19:49:00] |<-- Shifter41 has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  2080. [2011-11-20 19:49:02] <Arkeus> In something like 4Northen Shaolin Temple'?
  2081. [2011-11-20 19:49:08] <Arkeus> i would think there are VERY strict rules
  2082. [2011-11-20 19:49:57] <Guile> if a book I read is accurate, some american asshole showed up, hung with them for three years and picked up a handful of styles
  2083. [2011-11-20 19:50:39] <TheBeardiestBob> I am hopefully doing another update tonight to conclude the Ito visit, no promise-but I WILL Answer some Lo Fang backstory stuff from when he was twenty five and below.
  2084. [2011-11-20 19:50:40] <Arkeus> I doubt that include Master-level chakra secrets
  2085. [2011-11-20 19:50:43] <TheBeardiestBob> That sound of interest?
  2086. [2011-11-20 19:50:48] <Arkeus> Yesss
  2087. [2011-11-20 19:50:51] <Arkeus> OH , BOB
  2088. [2011-11-20 19:50:54] <Arkeus> we want to know
  2089. [2011-11-20 19:50:59] <Guile> So, WAS he kicked out for being too Armas?
  2090. [2011-11-20 19:51:03] <Arkeus> Camella told us about Cat burglar?
  2091. [2011-11-20 19:51:18] <Guile> or did he offend the wrong sensei, or...
  2092. [2011-11-20 19:51:38] <Arkeus> Was someone even more of a manipulative bastard than him? :p
  2093. [2011-11-20 19:51:45] <Arkeus> Like, kid of a master
  2094. [2011-11-20 19:52:00] <TheBeardiestBob> He was exiled after having left, shortly after slaying the exalted master of the temple. (Incidentally, in GfH there are multiple Shaolin temples on the mountain, some fully real, some... not. Lo Fang started in a normal temple, got transferred to a magic one without a bloodline)
  2095. [2011-11-20 19:52:02] <cornelius> Obviously he fell in love with a village girl and had a tragic mishap that led him down a tragic life of crime....nah
  2096. [2011-11-20 19:52:18] <Arkeus> lol
  2097. [2011-11-20 19:52:24] <Arkeus> cornelius is grail, right
  2098. [2011-11-20 19:52:30] <TheBeardiestBob> Basically, he strived and strived to better himself, and abruptly realized in that act there was nowhere further for him to go here.
  2099. [2011-11-20 19:53:26] <TheBeardiestBob> So he made the school self destruct around him with the slaying, and brought it down around him as his nihilistic squeezing of the last potential out of the place, he claimed several disciples in awe of his accomplishments.
  2100. [2011-11-20 19:53:38] <TheBeardiestBob> That is what he did right around hitting 25
  2101. [2011-11-20 19:53:44] <TheBeardiestBob> ask questions about shit from before then
  2102. [2011-11-20 19:53:45] <TheBeardiestBob> go
  2103. [2011-11-20 19:53:52] <Arkeus> ...Fuck, he is good
  2104. [2011-11-20 19:54:06] <Guile> Wow. Any of the current crop of disciples from back then? Is Go Ping secretly like 55?
  2105. [2011-11-20 19:54:10] <cornelius> What about his childhood?
  2106. [2011-11-20 19:54:20] <Guile> probably dropped off as a child, like most of em
  2107. [2011-11-20 19:54:39] <BUTTZ> What was his favorite game? Chess?
  2108. [2011-11-20 19:55:02] <BUTTZ> What zodiac sign was he born under? Year of the Rat?
  2109. [2011-11-20 19:55:09] <TheBeardiestBob> No, they are other bosses who rule different parts of the Triads (a few are actually in the Tongs and provide him info). four of his current disciples are descendents of those originals, the other three ones he stole in one of his 'every decade' trips back
  2110. [2011-11-20 19:55:27] <TheBeardiestBob> where he 'harvests' new potential infiltrating as a kindly, travelling master seeking students
  2111. [2011-11-20 19:55:42] <Arkeus> Lol
  2112. [2011-11-20 19:55:43] <TheBeardiestBob> and knowing the lingo well enough he usually avoids recognition as 'oh fuck it's that guy'
  2113. [2011-11-20 19:55:45] <Guile> wow, is he more the 'visiting celebrity' or the 'boogeyman' to the Shaolin temples?
  2114. [2011-11-20 19:55:46] <Arkeus> what a bastard
  2115. [2011-11-20 19:56:00] <Arkeus> "Oh fuck it's that guy" indeed
  2116. [2011-11-20 19:56:20] <Arkeus> So he usually IS better than the Exalted masters?
  2117. [2011-11-20 19:56:24] <TheBeardiestBob> Lo Fang is a boogeyman to them, but the kindly priest routine he's always changing up has been refined so well he can get the 'visiting celebrity' thing going
  2118. [2011-11-20 19:56:28] <Arkeus> Are there Ranks above Exalted masterS?
  2119. [2011-11-20 19:56:38] <Guile> well, if he killed one of them some 30+ years ago
  2120. [2011-11-20 19:56:48] <TheBeardiestBob> Well he hasn't dicked with any of the completely immaterial temples
  2121. [2011-11-20 19:56:51] <Arkeus> Guile: we killed people much better than us
  2122. [2011-11-20 19:56:58] <Guile> true nuff
  2123. [2011-11-20 19:57:07] <TheBeardiestBob> those ones are run by the Chinese dragons, with non-ruling dragons acting as instructors.
  2124. [2011-11-20 19:57:17] <Arkeus> Ouch
  2125. [2011-11-20 19:57:26] <Arkeus> There is more than one 'Chinese Dragon'?
  2126. [2011-11-20 19:57:31] <TheBeardiestBob> Chinese dragons as a whole and ruler in particular are bound to do this from an oath made to the Yellow Emperor way back when.
  2127. [2011-11-20 19:57:39] <Arkeus> Wow
  2128. [2011-11-20 19:57:44] <Guile> I hear Buddhism is big in the temples. Is he Buddhist or Taoist?
  2129. [2011-11-20 19:57:45] <Arkeus> that guy must have been all kind of badass
  2130. [2011-11-20 19:57:46] <Ironybot> Why did he decide to do the pillage and burn routine instead of working his way into the immaterial temples and learning more from them?
  2131. [2011-11-20 19:57:47] <Arkeus> and still is
  2132. [2011-11-20 19:57:48] <TheBeardiestBob> Just like there's more of every nation's Dragon Arkeus
  2133. [2011-11-20 19:57:50] <TheBeardiestBob> this isn't new.
  2134. [2011-11-20 19:58:07] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: i thought you meant 'Chinese Ruler Dragon'
  2135. [2011-11-20 19:58:15] <Guile> he's in there too
  2136. [2011-11-20 19:58:19] <Arkeus> with the way you said non-ruling as instructor
  2137. [2011-11-20 19:58:21] <Arkeus> sorry about that
  2138. [2011-11-20 19:58:22] <TheBeardiestBob> Because you CAN'T get into those without both a connection and an established bloodline
  2139. [2011-11-20 19:58:29] <TheBeardiestBob> he got laughed at when he appleid
  2140. [2011-11-20 19:58:31] <TheBeardiestBob> applied
  2141. [2011-11-20 19:58:32] <Guile> dragons being pricks that way?
  2142. [2011-11-20 19:58:38] <Ironybot> Ouch. That sucks.
  2143. [2011-11-20 19:58:47] <Arkeus> Don't worry, he'll get a bloodline soon
  2144. [2011-11-20 19:58:51] <TheBeardiestBob> even though he Rock Lee'd a good number of the others who got accepted each time he applied.
  2145. [2011-11-20 19:58:51] <cornelius> Established bloodline as in established Chinese bloodline or any bloodline of note?
  2146. [2011-11-20 19:59:04] <Guile> that would totally be something Armas would do if he got turned down. Armas, Blackbeard, Lo Fang - theyre not all THAT different
  2147. [2011-11-20 19:59:15] <Guile> except he'd probably have to use explosives
  2148. [2011-11-20 19:59:27] <Guile> or tricking different masters against one another
  2149. [2011-11-20 19:59:29] <TheBeardiestBob> (For those who don't know: 'Rock Lee'ing' something is using fist and foot to shut down some wonky magic user irrelevant of how bullshit their power is.)
  2150. [2011-11-20 19:59:32] <Arkeus> You know, i want to apply
  2151. [2011-11-20 19:59:44] <Arkeus> <_<
  2152. [2011-11-20 19:59:57] <Samar> Why?
  2153. [2011-11-20 20:00:02] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: the way camella is doing to Hillevi/us
  2154. [2011-11-20 20:00:07] <BUTTZ> It's a shiney thing is my guess
  2155. [2011-11-20 20:00:08] <Samar> another long roadtrip that will take three threads?
  2156. [2011-11-20 20:00:08] <TheBeardiestBob> Basically
  2157. [2011-11-20 20:00:09] <Arkeus> Samar: seems soul-magic heavy
  2158. [2011-11-20 20:00:22] <TheBeardiestBob> Let's just call it 'getting Camella'ed' in GfH
  2159. [2011-11-20 20:00:27] <Arkeus> lol
  2160. [2011-11-20 20:00:29] <TheBeardiestBob> >use great magic
  2161. [2011-11-20 20:00:33] <Arkeus> with Insane Rolls
  2162. [2011-11-20 20:00:36] <TheBeardiestBob> >knocked the fuck out with foot to face
  2163. [2011-11-20 20:00:42] <TheBeardiestBob> >U GOT CAMELLA'D
  2164. [2011-11-20 20:00:55] <cornelius> Unless we somehow deal with all our pressing issues and can then fast forward like two months I'd rather not
  2165. [2011-11-20 20:00:59] <Ironybot> Neither we nor Hillevi are using our bullshit powers at the moment, so I don't know that the current spars qualify. If we get curbstomped in a more serious fight that would count.
  2166. [2011-11-20 20:01:02] <Arkeus> Camella must make you facepalm by trying to give her good encounters
  2167. [2011-11-20 20:01:04] <Guile> "Behold my perfectly ultimate defense passed down from- ohshitfoottotheface!"
  2168. [2011-11-20 20:01:04] <TheBeardiestBob> So questions on Lo Fang?
  2169. [2011-11-20 20:01:17] <BUTTZ> What zodiac sign was he born under? Year of the Rat?
  2170. [2011-11-20 20:01:18] <Guile> Buddhist or Taoist? or atheist, I guess
  2171. [2011-11-20 20:01:38] <Arkeus> PARISTON
  2172. [2011-11-20 20:01:40] <Arkeus> Ahem
  2173. [2011-11-20 20:01:40] <cornelius> Was he dropped off as a child or did he go to temples later in life?
  2174. [2011-11-20 20:01:47] <Ironybot> Has Lo Fang ever been in love?
  2175. [2011-11-20 20:01:55] <Guile> and did he actually manage to take ALL the styles? Cuz Shaolin have a lot
  2176. [2011-11-20 20:02:27] <Arkeus> What was his speciality while training? Direct combat? Misdirection? Chakra Seals/traps?
  2177. [2011-11-20 20:02:51] <Guile> Paris-what?
  2178. [2011-11-20 20:02:56] <Arkeus> PARISTON
  2179. [2011-11-20 20:03:32] <TheBeardiestBob> Year of the Pig, Started Taoist, became nihilistic 'meticulous to the point of OCD' hollow polydeism. By that he acknowledges just about every god anyone even thinks exists-and does not give two shits about them, having long ago decided they weren't worth his time.
  2180. [2011-11-20 20:03:46] <Guile> Yeah, still dont get it. He might be Year of the Cat- being ostracized and all
  2181. [2011-11-20 20:03:51] <TheBeardiestBob> He was dropped off as a child, by what looked like peasants.
  2182. [2011-11-20 20:03:53] <BUTTZ> Except when they ice up his warded chakra room
  2183. [2011-11-20 20:03:59] <BUTTZ> Then he gets kinda pissy
  2184. [2011-11-20 20:04:31] <TheBeardiestBob> Lo Fang loved twice at the temple, one ended alright, the other made him a bit angsty, wasn't why he did what he did, but did make it easier for him to find the focus he needed to get that good that early.
  2185. [2011-11-20 20:04:38] <Guile> well, if they fuck with him, he probably fucked right back
  2186. [2011-11-20 20:05:01] <Arkeus> http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt2xluSVTB1qgiqq7o1_500.png <= the young guy, Guile
  2187. [2011-11-20 20:05:09] <Arkeus> Killing Exalted masters through manipulation
  2188. [2011-11-20 20:05:11] <Arkeus> Damn Rat
  2189. [2011-11-20 20:05:20] <BUTTZ> Good classic education in addition to the martial arts training?
  2190. [2011-11-20 20:05:32] <Guile> he comes off that way, anyhow
  2191. [2011-11-20 20:05:54] <TheBeardiestBob> He did in fact learn each and every mundane style and a total of seventy two chakra-based AND THREE PRACTITIONER ONLY STYLES THAT ARE ONLY THEORETICAL FOR HIM yet he still memorized because he thought it would be handy.
  2192. [2011-11-20 20:06:09] <Arkeus> ehhehe
  2193. [2011-11-20 20:06:24] <TheBeardiestBob> His 'specialty' was the following list, in order of how well it clicked
  2194. [2011-11-20 20:06:26] <Ironybot> Nice. This is not a man with Armas-style slow learning.
  2195. [2011-11-20 20:06:34] <TheBeardiestBob> >1Taoist Charms
  2196. [2011-11-20 20:06:41] <Guile> That's more like Camella genius
  2197. [2011-11-20 20:06:45] <cornelius> Neither Armas style learning or Armas style time
  2198. [2011-11-20 20:06:46] <TheBeardiestBob> >2 Freeform internal chakra regulation
  2199. [2011-11-20 20:06:53] <TheBeardiestBob> >3 Buddhist charms
  2200. [2011-11-20 20:06:57] <cornelius> Camella genius?
  2201. [2011-11-20 20:07:07] <cornelius> Aren't Labombard/Savoy the best learners out of the group?
  2202. [2011-11-20 20:07:09] <Arkeus> Well, it is Armas-Style LEARN EVERYTHING
  2203. [2011-11-20 20:07:11] <cornelius> And Lo Fang above them?
  2204. [2011-11-20 20:07:25] <Arkeus> I thoguht Camella was the best
  2205. [2011-11-20 20:07:28] <Arkeus> Then Hillevi
  2206. [2011-11-20 20:07:32] <cornelius> I recall asking previously
  2207. [2011-11-20 20:07:35] <Arkeus> heh
  2208. [2011-11-20 20:08:14] <Arkeus> bob: Very interesting. Freeform internal chakra regulation means switching from speed to toughness on the fly?
  2209. [2011-11-20 20:08:17] <Arkeus> things like that?
  2210. [2011-11-20 20:08:23] <TheBeardiestBob> So, any more Lo Fang questions? And yes BUTTZ, he got in some classical calligraphy, the arts, old-school but still useful etiquette stuff, all that.
  2211. [2011-11-20 20:08:32] <TheBeardiestBob> Yes Arkeus
  2212. [2011-11-20 20:08:47] <TheBeardiestBob> Lo Fang doesn't have much energy to work with, compared to most who regularly use chakra
  2213. [2011-11-20 20:08:58] <Arkeus> Still? interesting
  2214. [2011-11-20 20:09:27] <Arkeus> He's all grace
  2215. [2011-11-20 20:09:29] <Arkeus> :D
  2216. [2011-11-20 20:09:34] <TheBeardiestBob> Compared to a 'normal' chakra user who did what he did, he's about 60% under strength. He has low chakra stam, always has
  2217. [2011-11-20 20:09:40] <ManOfTroy> Does Lo Fang have an embarrasing tattoo from his rebelious youth?
  2218. [2011-11-20 20:09:52] <TheBeardiestBob> he works his ass off to mitigate it, and spent most of his youth learning how to stretch just a drop for miles, but still.
  2219. [2011-11-20 20:09:58] <TMIoverload> During that time did he ever mess with anything that would be considered forbidden to students of the school? Styles they saw as anathema or tainted by western or some other influence?
  2220. [2011-11-20 20:10:03] <cornelius> Any rivals during his early years?
  2221. [2011-11-20 20:10:14] <BUTTZ> What did he think of the Maoist reforms?
  2222. [2011-11-20 20:10:19] <BUTTZ> He lived through all that shit
  2223. [2011-11-20 20:10:32] <ManOfTroy> Oh, yeah! That would be nice to know.
  2224. [2011-11-20 20:10:44] <ManOfTroy> And has anyone asked if he knows Jackie Chan?
  2225. [2011-11-20 20:10:49] <Ironybot> What controls how much chakra energy is available, comparing two people with similarly heavy/sized souls?
  2226. [2011-11-20 20:10:55] <cornelius> We should have
  2227. [2011-11-20 20:11:19] <TheBeardiestBob> Lo Fang has a Dragon tattooed from left ankle up leg around body down right arm, one long uninterrupted coiling loop. It is a magic tattoo of his own design, reverse engineering both charm types he learned to find a way to 'charm' living flesh.
  2228. [2011-11-20 20:11:59] <ManOfTroy> Oh, cool! but not actually embarrasing.
  2229. [2011-11-20 20:12:16] <Arkeus> Probably VERY sueful
  2230. [2011-11-20 20:12:17] <TheBeardiestBob> It's pink because he f'ed it up a bit
  2231. [2011-11-20 20:12:21] <Arkeus> lol
  2232. [2011-11-20 20:12:24] <Arkeus> useful
  2233. [2011-11-20 20:12:26] <cornelius> Think Troy was looking for some sort of tramp stamp type deal
  2234. [2011-11-20 20:12:33] <ManOfTroy> Haha, -that-s awesome.
  2235. [2011-11-20 20:12:34] <Ironybot> No one scoffs at the Pink Dragon!
  2236. [2011-11-20 20:12:36] <ManOfTroy> That or teddy bears.
  2237. [2011-11-20 20:12:41] <ManOfTroy> but Pink Dragons? Awesome
  2238. [2011-11-20 20:12:44] <cornelius> Oh god, the pink dragon
  2239. [2011-11-20 20:12:53] <TheBeardiestBob> He indulged in a MASSIVE amount of corpse dissection and general macabre investigation, as he slowly built a preference for a style to maximize his energy with single, penetrating strikes, and is immensely knowledgeable on monster anatomy.
  2240. [2011-11-20 20:12:56] <cornelius> That's such a good nickname if Armas ever finds out
  2241. [2011-11-20 20:12:57] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: How do Dragons view Dragon Tatoo, btw? 'FREE BELIEF'?
  2242. [2011-11-20 20:13:10] <cornelius> Sadly he never say it to his face
  2243. [2011-11-20 20:13:13] <cornelius> But mentally
  2244. [2011-11-20 20:13:17] <TheBeardiestBob> For actual forbidden arts, all three of the Practitioner styles, and twenty one of the Chakra based (and two of the mundane) are all 'forbidden'
  2245. [2011-11-20 20:13:32] <Arkeus> heh
  2246. [2011-11-20 20:13:40] <Arkeus> the Practicionner styles- soul heavy?
  2247. [2011-11-20 20:13:51] <Ironybot> Forbidden to whom, and by what standard? I mean, obviously someone learns them or they wouldn't be around for him to have learned at all.
  2248. [2011-11-20 20:13:52] <ManOfTroy> gosh, Lo's awesome
  2249. [2011-11-20 20:14:33] <TheBeardiestBob> Chakra regulation is based on the soul's shape, as it fits to the bodies chakra outlets. So it's a 'you get it at birth, find a soul manipulation master if you want a do over' thing.
  2250. [2011-11-20 20:14:58] <TheBeardiestBob> The Maoist reforms were ultimately got Lo Fang to hook up with the Triads
  2251. [2011-11-20 20:15:23] <ManOfTroy> Is Lo a righty or a lefty? And...mhm, that's pretty good for us, if horrible for the Maoists.
  2252. [2011-11-20 20:15:32] <ManOfTroy> How does he feel about the recent opening up of China?
  2253. [2011-11-20 20:15:34] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: that's... very interesting, about the soul manipulation bit
  2254. [2011-11-20 20:16:44] <TheBeardiestBob> Forbidden in that the practitioner styles are 'you get executed if you know even part of this and the dragons didn't give you the go ahead' and the rest varying levels of shit, ranging from painful mindwipe, exile, execution.
  2255. [2011-11-20 20:17:01] <BUTTZ> The Maoists did some crazy shit, from demanding little forges in every home to killing all the fucking sparrows
  2256. [2011-11-20 20:18:12] <Ironybot> All right, then I have to ask- who did he convince to teach him those things, and how?
  2257. [2011-11-20 20:18:27] <Arkeus> Probably tortured the fuck out of them
  2258. [2011-11-20 20:18:45] <Ironybot> And for that matter, where did he get a massive amount of corpses to cut on?
  2259. [2011-11-20 20:18:46] <ManOfTroy> Yeah, Maoists were...very crazy, and oddly like the first Emperor of China.
  2260. [2011-11-20 20:19:28] <TheBeardiestBob> He spent three years internalizing the theory of three seperate chakra based mind manipulation tricks, never once seeking help, or in fact even checking out books-all from observation and mental practice
  2261. [2011-11-20 20:19:47] <TheBeardiestBob> then he struck and converted a couple students with permission to access certain records as librarians of sorts
  2262. [2011-11-20 20:20:11] <TheBeardiestBob> and then had them be caught attempting to steal a far less important book, and resist capture
  2263. [2011-11-20 20:20:33] <Arkeus> ... Yeah, we must make sure Go Ping Doesn't stay with that guy
  2264. [2011-11-20 20:20:42] <ManOfTroy> Why not?
  2265. [2011-11-20 20:20:46] <Ironybot> Why not? He could learn a lot from him.
  2266. [2011-11-20 20:20:46] <TheBeardiestBob> they get killed, it's not so strange people look closely, and when they find that the Practitioner scrolls have been replaced with blanks a half year later...
  2267. [2011-11-20 20:20:52] <TheBeardiestBob> well, trails pretty cold.
  2268. [2011-11-20 20:21:14] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i mean, longer term
  2269. [2011-11-20 20:21:34] <Arkeus> Lo Fang's not a safe mster at all
  2270. [2011-11-20 20:21:45] <Ironybot> Longer term, hanging with Lo Fang will probably get him killed- but do you really think that we and our friends have any longer of a life expectancy?
  2271. [2011-11-20 20:21:50] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: Let me guess, he uses those techniques to help 'Morale' more recently?
  2272. [2011-11-20 20:21:58] <TheBeardiestBob> HAyup
  2273. [2011-11-20 20:21:59] <ManOfTroy> Yeah, that's what I was thinking
  2274. [2011-11-20 20:21:59] <Arkeus> hence who his men don't route?
  2275. [2011-11-20 20:22:20] <Arkeus> Ironybot: Armas i loyal to his subordinate/friends.
  2276. [2011-11-20 20:22:23] <Arkeus> Or i want him to be
  2277. [2011-11-20 20:22:26] <TheBeardiestBob> So there, that's most of what Lo Fang did/learned before the age of twenty five
  2278. [2011-11-20 20:22:31] <TheBeardiestBob> more than fifty years ago
  2279. [2011-11-20 20:22:37] <Arkeus> :-(
  2280. [2011-11-20 20:22:38] <ManOfTroy> Armas is Loyal?
  2281. [2011-11-20 20:22:39] <Arkeus> What a fucker
  2282. [2011-11-20 20:22:42] <ManOfTroy> WHen the hell did that happen?
  2283. [2011-11-20 20:22:47] <A_Hungry_Shark> !!
  2284. [2011-11-20 20:22:47] <Classhole> !?
  2285. [2011-11-20 20:22:51] <A_Hungry_Shark> We're back in Istanbul!
  2286. [2011-11-20 20:22:55] <ManOfTroy> Fuuuck, Lo's badass.
  2287. [2011-11-20 20:22:57] <ManOfTroy> Yes! We are!
  2288. [2011-11-20 20:22:58] <A_Hungry_Shark> We must meet the Kitty-Burglar
  2289. [2011-11-20 20:23:03] <Arkeus> Yes, bob
  2290. [2011-11-20 20:23:11] <Arkeus> did Camella tell us anything about kitty burglar?
  2291. [2011-11-20 20:23:20] <A_Hungry_Shark> >Kitty burglar meets Sake
  2292. [2011-11-20 20:23:20] <TheBeardiestBob> No, but it's at the gym right now
  2293. [2011-11-20 20:23:25] <A_Hungry_Shark> Trollanimals, alldayerryday
  2294. [2011-11-20 20:23:29] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
  2295. [2011-11-20 20:23:37] <A_Hungry_Shark> It's here?! Oh boy
  2296. [2011-11-20 20:23:49] <TheBeardiestBob> You gonna get POUNCED because it's become a bit possessive of Camella
  2297. [2011-11-20 20:23:53] <TheBeardiestBob> thinks she's his.
  2298. [2011-11-20 20:23:54] <Ironybot> If it's at the gym.... have we not sensed its soul? Or is it hanging out somewhere else, not watching us?
  2299. [2011-11-20 20:23:57] <A_Hungry_Shark> D'aaaaaaaw
  2300. [2011-11-20 20:23:57] <TheBeardiestBob> so back off.
  2301. [2011-11-20 20:24:04] <A_Hungry_Shark> Look at the psychotic little kitty
  2302. [2011-11-20 20:24:11] <A_Hungry_Shark> Bah, how much stronger can it be?
  2303. [2011-11-20 20:24:12] <TheBeardiestBob> It's still soul-less.
  2304. [2011-11-20 20:24:15] <A_Hungry_Shark> We'll just whip it ba-
  2305. [2011-11-20 20:24:16] <TheBeardiestBob> It's a very veteran cat
  2306. [2011-11-20 20:24:16] <A_Hungry_Shark> Oh.
  2307. [2011-11-20 20:24:25] <Arkeus> O, going to sleep.
  2308. [2011-11-20 20:24:27] <TheBeardiestBob> but no soul yet.
  2309. [2011-11-20 20:24:30] <Ironybot> No soul? How sad.
  2310. [2011-11-20 20:24:36] <Arkeus> Hopefully people post fanart,s logical way to do stuff, the works
  2311. [2011-11-20 20:24:50] <BUTTZ> If it hangs around with us it will be dead or sapient inside a year
  2312. [2011-11-20 20:24:58] <Ironybot> Or both.
  2313. [2011-11-20 20:25:02] <A_Hungry_Shark> Well, you know what they say: "You don't own a cat. A cat owns you."
  2314. [2011-11-20 20:25:03] <Arkeus> Also, i'd like if someone did that "Oh, maybe Drunken MArtial-Style are made to counter soul-sense advantages"
  2315. [2011-11-20 20:25:09] <ManOfTroy> GGreebo?
  2316. [2011-11-20 20:25:27] <A_Hungry_Shark> So, is it mind-melting cute?
  2317. [2011-11-20 20:25:41] <Guile> or is it an ugly as sin alleycat?
  2318. [2011-11-20 20:25:47] <Ironybot> Ah, Bob, also wanted to ask- did Camella actually promise not to tell others our story, offscreen? Because I can't see Armas accepting the kind of non-promise from her that we saw explicitly written out.
  2319. [2011-11-20 20:25:50] <Guile> or is it startlingly ordinary?
  2320. [2011-11-20 20:25:52] <TheBeardiestBob> It knows that humans are weak to this concept of 'cute' and knows it can produce such an effect.
  2321. [2011-11-20 20:25:54] <A_Hungry_Shark> Hey, Alleycats have a certain beauty to them too!
  2322. [2011-11-20 20:26:00] <TheBeardiestBob> So it milks it, as any cat with that understand does.
  2323. [2011-11-20 20:26:01] <Arkeus> lol bob
  2324. [2011-11-20 20:26:13] <Ironybot> Her line was exactly the sort of weaselry that we'd use to avoid explicitly swearing something.
  2325. [2011-11-20 20:26:17] <A_Hungry_Shark> How strong is it? How psychotic?
  2326. [2011-11-20 20:26:36] <Guile> it's not exactly going to murder us in our sleep, Shark
  2327. [2011-11-20 20:26:43] <A_Hungry_Shark> Because I'm thinking of Hugging Camella...RIGHT AFTER THE SPAR
  2328. [2011-11-20 20:26:44] <Guile> ... I mean, it xcould try, I guess
  2329. [2011-11-20 20:26:46] <A_Hungry_Shark> To piss it off
  2330. [2011-11-20 20:27:03] <A_Hungry_Shark> 'As in: She's mine you punk'
  2331. [2011-11-20 20:27:18] <cornelius> I feel bad for Camella
  2332. [2011-11-20 20:27:37] <Guile> we'll armwrestle BanditKitty for her
  2333. [2011-11-20 20:27:41] <A_Hungry_Shark> And then kitty goes 'RGARGBLARGLE git ur manpaws off her'
  2334. [2011-11-20 20:27:45] <cornelius> Demons and monsters constantly calling her out on smelling like us
  2335. [2011-11-20 20:27:48] <cornelius> And cats
  2336. [2011-11-20 20:27:49] <Guile> drinking contest?
  2337. [2011-11-20 20:27:49] <Ironybot> Cunning plan: Write up "grope Camella as a distraction" for suggestion. Roll 100.
  2338. [2011-11-20 20:27:52] <ManOfTroy> Hey, bob, Speaking of 'Cute' is there a way to use Cute to actual kill people?
  2339. [2011-11-20 20:27:54] <cornelius> Well you know why they rub on people?
  2340. [2011-11-20 20:27:59] <cornelius> To spread their scent on them
  2341. [2011-11-20 20:28:00] <A_Hungry_Shark> Yes we know
  2342. [2011-11-20 20:28:10] <ManOfTroy> Oh good, Irony bot. What did you roll?
  2343. [2011-11-20 20:28:12] <cornelius> Scent everywhere
  2344. [2011-11-20 20:28:20] <A_Hungry_Shark> Neuter dat kitty
  2345. [2011-11-20 20:28:23] <A_Hungry_Shark> Fuck off.
  2346. [2011-11-20 20:28:44] <Guile> Cunning plan: use stealth and sleight of hand to remove bra without taking off her shirt
  2347. [2011-11-20 20:28:59] <Ironybot> We can have Shadowbro do that for us later.
  2348. [2011-11-20 20:29:09] <Ironybot> From across the room.
  2349. [2011-11-20 20:29:16] <A_Hungry_Shark> If we actually pull that off, it's going to our "Greatest Life Achievements" list, Guile
  2350. [2011-11-20 20:29:18] <Guile> excellent
  2351. [2011-11-20 20:29:37] <ManOfTroy> Cunning Plan, have shadowbro turn her underwear into bikini. Have Sake remove clothing.
  2352. [2011-11-20 20:29:38] <ManOfTroy> 'What, i'm not a wizard.'
  2353. [2011-11-20 20:29:41] <ManOfTroy> >Trollface
  2354. [2011-11-20 20:29:41] <Guile> Her soul is watching us as we steal her underwear
  2355. [2011-11-20 20:29:48] <A_Hungry_Shark> Fuckdat
  2356. [2011-11-20 20:29:52] <A_Hungry_Shark> Her soul can't do shit
  2357. [2011-11-20 20:29:57] <A_Hungry_Shark> Just watch.
  2358. [2011-11-20 20:30:02] <A_Hungry_Shark> Watch helplessly
  2359. [2011-11-20 20:30:07] <Arkeus> Drool?
  2360. [2011-11-20 20:30:08] <Guile> Her soul can alert Camella. Camella can do many things.
  2361. [2011-11-20 20:30:29] <A_Hungry_Shark> Camella in a bikini or topless is worth dieing at least once
  2362. [2011-11-20 20:30:38] <BUTTZ> God you guys are horrible
  2363. [2011-11-20 20:30:58] <A_Hungry_Shark> multipleliveslol
  2364. [2011-11-20 20:30:58] <ManOfTroy> No, what is priceless is seeing her in a bikini and making her -convinced- we're a wizard and lying about it
  2365. [2011-11-20 20:31:20] <Ironybot> She accused us of lying to her before. I was vaguely offended.
  2366. [2011-11-20 20:31:41] <A_Hungry_Shark> And she thinks Sake is our "exotic pet"
  2367. [2011-11-20 20:32:29] <A_Hungry_Shark> Holy carp a 72
  2368. [2011-11-20 20:32:59] <Guile> so all our rolls are 50+. STOP NOW.
  2369. [2011-11-20 20:33:05] <A_Hungry_Shark> Nah
  2370. [2011-11-20 20:33:07] <A_Hungry_Shark> 1 more roll.
  2371. [2011-11-20 20:33:10] <A_Hungry_Shark> Rule of 3 yo
  2372. [2011-11-20 20:33:30] <Ironybot> You really think an average of 64.5 will be enough to stop Camella?
  2373. [2011-11-20 20:33:45] <A_Hungry_Shark> No, but it will delay our inevitable ass-whooping
  2374. [2011-11-20 20:33:54] <A_Hungry_Shark> And every second counts, dammit
  2375. [2011-11-20 20:33:57] <Guile> Nnnnope. But then, I doubt there's ANY way to stop the Pint-size Determinator
  2376. [2011-11-20 20:34:16] <Guile> And its not like martial arts is our best skill anymore
  2377. [2011-11-20 20:34:22] <Guile> let her rub it in our face
  2378. [2011-11-20 20:34:26] <Ironybot> Anymore? When was it ever our best skill?
  2379. [2011-11-20 20:34:37] <Guile> well, considering how shitty our shooting skill is...
  2380. [2011-11-20 20:34:51] <A_Hungry_Shark> yip yip.
  2381. [2011-11-20 20:34:57] <Ironybot> Our best skill has been our ability to make friends and influence people since pretty darn early in thread one.
  2382. [2011-11-20 20:35:06] <Guile> fair enough
  2383. [2011-11-20 20:35:11] <A_Hungry_Shark> I think he's talking about 'COMBAT skills', Irony
  2384. [2011-11-20 20:35:22] <Ironybot> Making friends and influencing people IS a combat skill.
  2385. [2011-11-20 20:35:32] <Ironybot> See, we used it to kick Blackbeard's ass just this morning.
  2386. [2011-11-20 20:35:45] <InsufferableMystic> and reapers
  2387. [2011-11-20 20:36:11] <Ironybot> Note: I did not actually intend "making friends" to be a pun re: Shadowbro, but in retrospect that's awesome.
  2388. [2011-11-20 20:36:12] <A_Hungry_Shark> I wonder how many charms he takes on every mission
  2389. [2011-11-20 20:36:16] <A_Hungry_Shark> And how much they weigh in total
  2390. [2011-11-20 20:36:34] <Guile> we did 'make' our best friend
  2391. [2011-11-20 20:36:40] <Guile> good one
  2392. [2011-11-20 20:36:47] <A_Hungry_Shark> yip yip
  2393. [2011-11-20 20:36:53] <ManOfTroy> 'Pint-Sized'?
  2394. [2011-11-20 20:36:58] <ManOfTroy> The hell are you on, boy
  2395. [2011-11-20 20:37:57] <A_Hungry_Shark> Ah, can't wait to get BB's BILLIONS of Dollars, and BILLIONS of Charms
  2396. [2011-11-20 20:38:13] <A_Hungry_Shark> We could get the Wrong Laine going in no time
  2397. [2011-11-20 20:38:58] <TheBeardiestBob> http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6429045/suspending-water-without-a-cup-trick
  2398. [2011-11-20 20:39:50] <Guile> we're like 6'5". She's pint-sized to us
  2399. [2011-11-20 20:42:46] <Ironybot> That video seems like a cunningly designed troll aimed at getting other people to repeatedly splash water all over their tables and squander tons of time.
  2400. [2011-11-20 20:43:10] <TheBeardiestBob> That is my impression
  2401. [2011-11-20 20:43:16] <TheBeardiestBob> a very well done one too I'd say.
  2402. [2011-11-20 20:45:13] <Ironybot> Bob, since I think this got missed earlier: Did Camella actually ever explicitly promise not to share the story we told her? In the update texts thus far she did not.
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  2404. [2011-11-20 20:46:43] <TheBeardiestBob> No, she hasn't, and probably wouldn't make the promise. She would agree to not tell anyone without telling you first though.
  2405. [2011-11-20 20:47:47] <Arkeus> Right, sleep. What a silly idea Y_Y
  2406. [2011-11-20 20:48:08] <Ironybot> That is... somewhat disappointing, seeing as telling her things was intended to be contingent upon her actually promising to keep quiet about it and I would have expected Armas to be immediately deal-savvy enough to pick up on the fact that she did not.
  2407. [2011-11-20 20:48:36] <Ironybot> Her line "I'll make any promise I have to if it means you'll give straight answers." was not actually followed by a promise of any kind, and we should have gotten one before spilling.
  2408. [2011-11-20 20:49:16] <cornelius> The give and take with Camella isn't really optimal
  2409. [2011-11-20 20:49:57] <Guile> if we step out of line hard enough, I'd guess she'd take us down rather than tell people
  2410. [2011-11-20 20:50:19] <Guile> in which case the promise or lack thereof becomes moot
  2411. [2011-11-20 20:51:59] <Arkeus> We must be careful around Lo Fang
  2412. [2011-11-20 20:52:04] <Arkeus> Mind tricks and all that
  2413. [2011-11-20 20:52:20] <Arkeus> Dammit, i had a fun question when i was drowsy....
  2414. [2011-11-20 20:52:49] <Ironybot> Camella coming after us individually is something I would rather deal with than her telling our secrets to others.
  2415. [2011-11-20 20:54:21] <Guile> you know, mortals can do this funny thing called 'lying', even about promises
  2416. [2011-11-20 20:54:40] <Guile> either we trust her, or we dont - a promise isnt really worth much
  2417. [2011-11-20 20:56:07] <ManOfTroy> WAIT WAIT WIAT, WHAT? MORTALS CAN LIE? NO, BUT...THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
  2418. [2011-11-20 20:56:28] <Ironybot> It is to Armas. You think he would retain much respect for or desire to associate with someone who he knows has broken their word to him, when he guards the value of his own so carefully?
  2419. [2011-11-20 20:56:53] <ManOfTroy> Yes.
  2420. [2011-11-20 20:57:24] <Guile> If it means we get the Determinator as backup, quite possibly
  2421. [2011-11-20 20:57:49] <Ironybot> Besides, mortals can indeed lie- but if nothing else, even a totally unenforced promise leaves him able to honestly smear someone's name as an oathbreaker to various supernatural beasties who value scrupulous honesty in dealings highly.
  2422. [2011-11-20 20:57:54] <ManOfTroy> Because if we believe people would value their word as we do, we would bring a lawyer with us everywhere. 'Ah, you see, when I said 'tell', including in subection three, paragraph four, that includes sky writing, text messages, and note passing.
  2423. [2011-11-20 20:58:06] <cornelius> Personally I'm waiting for her to prove her worth, and by worth I don't mean ability I mean value to us.
  2424. [2011-11-20 20:58:19] <cornelius> Our side of this relationship has been a lot of give
  2425. [2011-11-20 20:58:21] <cornelius> Not so much take
  2426. [2011-11-20 20:59:53] <Guile> she did kill that woman who shot us in the head - presumably the 'take' will come now that we more or less have her trust
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  2428. [2011-11-20 21:00:15] <cornelius> Honestly didn't like the move she pulled implicating us in some deal with the Triads where they could potentially have claimed a portion of a bounty without directly offering aid to us
  2429. [2011-11-20 21:00:41] <cornelius> You don't just make someone beholden to a deal you initiated without discussing it with them first
  2430. [2011-11-20 21:00:51] <Ironybot> That was exceedingly rude of her, yes.
  2431. [2011-11-20 21:01:12] <Ironybot> However, as she does not have the authority to speak for us, it remains to be seen if we will accept her attempt to force a debt on us.
  2432. [2011-11-20 21:01:26] <ManOfTroy> Like we whouldn't have done the same thing if we needed to
  2433. [2011-11-20 21:01:28] <A_Mad_Oyster> Huh? What did I miss?
  2434. [2011-11-20 21:01:30] <Guile> what was it, 5 million to Go Ping?
  2435. [2011-11-20 21:01:32] <cornelius> We wouldn't have
  2436. [2011-11-20 21:01:41] <Guile> we never have
  2437. [2011-11-20 21:01:44] <Ironybot> Yes, five million to Go Ping.
  2438. [2011-11-20 21:01:58] <A_Mad_Oyster> Fuck dat. OUR money.
  2439. [2011-11-20 21:02:09] <cornelius> And Camella did save our life once
  2440. [2011-11-20 21:02:21] <cornelius> But by my count we've saved her own multiple times
  2441. [2011-11-20 21:02:33] <A_Mad_Oyster> We saved her FUTURE.
  2442. [2011-11-20 21:02:39] <cornelius> Not that that it should matter
  2443. [2011-11-20 21:02:41] <Guile> ...?
  2444. [2011-11-20 21:02:50] <A_Mad_Oyster> Everything's she's done til now, she owes it to US
  2445. [2011-11-20 21:02:57] <cornelius> Shut it Mad
  2446. [2011-11-20 21:02:58] <Arkeus> Stop is mad
  2447. [2011-11-20 21:03:01] <Arkeus> it
  2448. [2011-11-20 21:03:03] <Ironybot> Personally I am inclined to say "Sure, Camella, I will cover your $5,000,000 debt even though I'm under no obligation to do so at all. You now owe me five million bucks." They say debt ruins friendships, but hey, five million is five million.
  2449. [2011-11-20 21:03:06] <ManOfTroy> Quit it, Mad
  2450. [2011-11-20 21:03:12] <A_Mad_Oyster> Godammit you guys
  2451. [2011-11-20 21:03:15] <cornelius> You're making a perfectly decent argument sound stupid
  2452. [2011-11-20 21:04:53] <Guile> I mean, we nursed her back to health a bit, but its not like somebody was going to murder her in the street
  2453. [2011-11-20 21:05:13] <cornelius> Prevented her from making a terrible mistake that would have ended with her in some magical Italian prison
  2454. [2011-11-20 21:05:20] <Guile> also, we barely refrained from shooting her ourselves
  2455. [2011-11-20 21:05:41] <cornelius> Or an insane asylum
  2456. [2011-11-20 21:05:43] <Guile> or in the magical version of Il Nono, maybe - governments can recognize talent
  2457. [2011-11-20 21:05:52] <Ironybot> I doubt it would have ended with her in a magical Italian prison- there are a myriad of groups which would have been more than happy to pick up their very own totally unrecorded elite operative.
  2458. [2011-11-20 21:06:28] <InsufferableMystic> also treat the woman who can kill us but is currently friend well
  2459. [2011-11-20 21:06:31] <cornelius> After they heard her story? As far as I know dimensional sliders aren't exactly viewed as a good thing.
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  2461. [2011-11-20 21:07:02] <InsufferableMystic> We want her as ally
  2462. [2011-11-20 21:07:21] <InsufferableMystic> PC allies are a boon
  2463. [2011-11-20 21:07:33] <cornelius> Not if you don't get anything out of the equation
  2464. [2011-11-20 21:07:37] <cornelius> Which is my point
  2465. [2011-11-20 21:07:57] <cornelius> A relationship requires a certain amount of respect and giving from both parties
  2466. [2011-11-20 21:08:31] <Ironybot> We might want her as a friend- but by demanding that if we get the bounty on Blackbeard we distribute five million of it at her whim, she's basically placed a five million dollar price tag on retaining her friendship. That's a damned high-maintenance ally.
  2467. [2011-11-20 21:09:09] <InsufferableMystic> When has she?
  2468. [2011-11-20 21:09:15] <Guile> We probably would have spread that money around amongst our allies that assisted us anyway, but it is pretty annoying that she unilaterally decided that
  2469. [2011-11-20 21:09:36] <InsufferableMystic> Also, she got on bb first and lost a leg
  2470. [2011-11-20 21:09:47] <cornelius> So?
  2471. [2011-11-20 21:09:49] <Ironybot> What does that have to do with anything?
  2472. [2011-11-20 21:09:56] <Guile> but then, what could she do? Go Ping's a friend, kinda but he's not the kind to help for free - he agreed to help on the condition of being paid
  2473. [2011-11-20 21:10:31] <InsufferableMystic> Also our falut bb tried to kill her
  2474. [2011-11-20 21:10:38] <Guile> nnnnnno?
  2475. [2011-11-20 21:10:44] <Ironybot> That's just preposterous.
  2476. [2011-11-20 21:10:53] <Guile> BB's an asshole. We're not responsible for him.
  2477. [2011-11-20 21:11:01] <Arkeus> He gives it-I dial it-the Merchant answers-
  2478. [2011-11-20 21:11:02] <Arkeus> And the voice comes from my pants.
  2479. [2011-11-20 21:11:02] <Arkeus> He throws his voice through a phone. <= so damn awesome
  2480. [2011-11-20 21:11:15] <Ironybot> If nothing else, it was entirely her decision to borrow our car.
  2481. [2011-11-20 21:11:20] <BUTTZ> Dat neckbeard: http://www.collegehumor.com/embed/6649697/super-mario-ragtime-piano
  2482. [2011-11-20 21:11:41] <ManOfTroy> Oh, must watch this.
  2483. [2011-11-20 21:11:44] <InsufferableMystic> Poeple are better than money
  2484. [2011-11-20 21:12:05] <InsufferableMystic> Allies are better than money.
  2485. [2011-11-20 21:12:23] <cornelius> Allies are worth what they're willing to give back
  2486. [2011-11-20 21:12:31] <InsufferableMystic> Magic loot is better than money
  2487. [2011-11-20 21:13:16] <ManOfTroy> Didn't Camella butcher a sniper that had a bead on us when we were dealing with Crazy?
  2488. [2011-11-20 21:13:21] <Ironybot> People, allies, magic loot, and money are all ultimately things with variable worth, which must be tracked and balanced against one another.
  2489. [2011-11-20 21:13:25] <InsufferableMystic> You are not thinking abot it right, corn
  2490. [2011-11-20 21:13:39] <ManOfTroy> Didn't she start a fight with BB that we were going to start, actual setting it up so we choudl take him out?
  2491. [2011-11-20 21:13:40] <cornelius> I'm thinking about a breach of respect
  2492. [2011-11-20 21:13:53] <cornelius> A rather expensive one
  2493. [2011-11-20 21:14:00] <ManOfTroy> Seriously, why worry about millions of dollars that, honestly, we can make up because we're intenting on being immortal.
  2494. [2011-11-20 21:14:17] <InsufferableMystic> ^
  2495. [2011-11-20 21:14:17] <Guile> She also killed the ghouls. She's a damn good ally. But she's expensive as all hell.
  2496. [2011-11-20 21:14:25] <Arkeus> Especially as it's noONLY money if WE manage to kill him
  2497. [2011-11-20 21:14:31] <InsufferableMystic> Think bigger than millions
  2498. [2011-11-20 21:14:38] <ManOfTroy> How is going 'My friend, who owns a vampires money, will spot you'.
  2499. [2011-11-20 21:14:40] <Arkeus> Basically, she is probably assuming BB is hers anyway
  2500. [2011-11-20 21:14:44] <InsufferableMystic> Think bigger than cash
  2501. [2011-11-20 21:14:56] <ManOfTroy> I wish people would
  2502. [2011-11-20 21:14:57] <BUTTZ> Five million to have her running around again and willing to help us is worth it
  2503. [2011-11-20 21:15:08] <Ironybot> Indeed, it is only if we manage to kill him. Which is why we're not bringing this up to her immediately- it's an issue which might well be irrelevant and thus not worth fighting over.
  2504. [2011-11-20 21:15:09] <cornelius> Could you stop with the pithy speeches? I'm not saying we cut off ties
  2505. [2011-11-20 21:15:13] <BUTTZ> We just offered her partnership in the merc company
  2506. [2011-11-20 21:15:14] <Guile> which I'm honestly okay with her fighting BB. If any PC villain is likely to carbomb us, its Blackbeard
  2507. [2011-11-20 21:15:24] <InsufferableMystic> Loyality has no price
  2508. [2011-11-20 21:15:46] <cornelius> Everything has a price
  2509. [2011-11-20 21:16:00] <InsufferableMystic> not a cash price
  2510. [2011-11-20 21:16:04] <Guile> Well, unless we could buy a robot or something as cool as Camella for that price
  2511. [2011-11-20 21:16:06] <BUTTZ> Hey Bob did we tell her what we learned about the Wyld Hunt?
  2512. [2011-11-20 21:16:15] <BUTTZ> The Erlking and all that jazz?
  2513. [2011-11-20 21:16:23] <Guile> we dont actually know that much. Mongolia's a pretty big place
  2514. [2011-11-20 21:19:30] <BUTTZ> Next time we see Einrik we should ask him about it
  2515. [2011-11-20 21:19:36] <BUTTZ> Before we introduce him to Camella
  2516. [2011-11-20 21:35:54] <A_Mad_Oyster> what was the name of that alchemist
  2517. [2011-11-20 21:35:59] <A_Mad_Oyster> who discovered immortality or shit
  2518. [2011-11-20 21:36:16] <A_Mad_Oyster> I think it was Nicholas something
  2519. [2011-11-20 21:37:24] <Ironybot> Comte de St. Germain, I believe.
  2520. [2011-11-20 21:39:21] <Ironybot> Wikipedia has a page on this full of information.
  2521. [2011-11-20 21:39:48] <BUTTZ> oooh dear, I believe I drank too much coffee
  2522. [2011-11-20 21:40:06] <A_Mad_Oyster> That's a good thing Buttz
  2523. [2011-11-20 21:40:13] <ManOfTroy> Why are we talking about the First and Last man?
  2524. [2011-11-20 21:40:32] <ManOfTroy> No, no, Man is talking abotu Flame.
  2525. [2011-11-20 21:40:37] <ManOfTroy> Not the Count.
  2526. [2011-11-20 21:42:16] <ManOfTroy> Anyway, I'm going to bed now
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  2530. [2011-11-20 22:10:01] |<-- Guile has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
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  2532. [2011-11-20 22:14:37] -->| Samar (~mabinogi@Rizon-8D3F6048.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #golemquest
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  2534. [2011-11-20 23:16:54] <TheBeardiestBob> What, uh, what happened to Bart? http://images.4chan.org/a/src/1321851970243.png
  2535. [2011-11-20 23:17:57] <Samar> He takes after his father.
  2536. [2011-11-20 23:19:15] <TheBeardiestBob> Wish shot was on, I know he'd love this with how much he likes Nasu's works and the HGW http://images.4chan.org/a/src/1321852206825.jpg
  2537. [2011-11-20 23:21:44] <TheBeardiestBob> Also, attention Skyrim players
  2538. [2011-11-20 23:21:49] <TheBeardiestBob> Whiterun is fucked http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1321844582874.jpg
  2539. [2011-11-20 23:22:54] <Shifter40> What are you doing sheogorath, that is meant to be in Vivec.
  2540. [2011-11-20 23:27:15] <cornelius> http://www.cracked.com/article_19528_5-true-stories-that-prove-you-shouldnt-piss-off-it-guy.html
  2541. [2011-11-20 23:34:26] <TheBeardiestBob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7a6cUF4Dmg
  2542. [2011-11-20 23:34:27] <Classhole> TheBeardiestBob: The Premier Weapon Against Dragons - length 3m 38s - rated 4.64/5.0 (11) - 900 views - Artdeux on 2011.11.18
  2543. [2011-11-20 23:41:42] <TheBeardiestBob> Holy shit Timothy Lloyd
  2544. [2011-11-20 23:41:48] <TheBeardiestBob> Armas should hire him as his IT guy
  2545. [2011-11-20 23:45:20] -->| TMIoverload_ (~chatzilla@A12FD61F.50C091BF.BEBEC030.IP) has joined #golemquest
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  2547. [2011-11-20 23:45:22] =-= TMIoverload_ is now known as TMIoverload
  2548. [2011-11-20 23:47:43] <cornelius> http://www.cracked.com/article/216_7-insane-true-stories-behind-worlds-most-wtf-houses/
  2549. [2011-11-20 23:48:10] <cornelius> Dat extremely narrow house
  2550. [2011-11-20 23:55:15] <Ironybot> After reading that article, I conclude that were Armas to hire Timothy Lloyd as his IT guy, we would end up gaining several levels of either Paranoia or Rationalization, depending upon what gains experience when we go into a speculative doom-spiral suspecting employee betrayal and way too much of it is true.
  2551. [2011-11-20 23:56:35] <TheBeardiestBob> I am just fascinated by the fact he prepared to fuck them over for his firing well before he got fired
  2552. [2011-11-20 23:56:53] <TheBeardiestBob> That takes a very special kind of person to do.
  2553. [2011-11-20 23:57:37] <Samar> A very special kind of American Asshole
  2554. [2011-11-20 23:58:35] <TheBeardiestBob> Also, it is now time to catch up on Gintama
  2555. [2011-11-20 23:58:41] <TheBeardiestBob> see, knew an update wasn't happening
  2556. [2011-11-20 23:58:53] <TheBeardiestBob> I haven't watched a much-loved show in two months
  2557. [2011-11-20 23:58:57] <TheBeardiestBob> I have catching up to do.
  2558. [2011-11-20 23:59:51] <Ironybot> Also, the Coral Castle from the bizarre houses link- look at the story of its construction; how Guns for Hire.
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