TPP and KazoWAR

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00:46 < ttp> I'm looking for information on memory locations in gen4
00:46 *** ttp is now known as tpp
00:47 < Kaphotics> like
00:47 < Kaphotics> you mean RAM offsets for things like party pokemon
00:47 < tpp> yes, and information on the structure of that data
00:48 < Kaphotics> http://projectpokemon.org/wiki/Notable_Breakpoints#Pokemon_DPP_.28U.29
00:48 <+Nene> Kaphotics' URL: Notable Breakpoints - Project Pokemon Wiki [ text/html ]
00:48 < Kaphotics> start there
00:49 < tpp> not helpful, I'm very unskilled when it comes to this sort of low-level stuff
00:49 < Kaphotics> if you know anything about AR codes, you can get the party pkm offsets with PokeGen's generated codes
00:50 < Kaphotics> as you probably know, the locations of things aren't static but instead have pointers
00:50 < Kaphotics> http://projectpokemon.org/wiki/Pokemon_NDS_Structure
00:50 <+Nene> Kaphotics' URL: Pokemon NDS Structure - Project Pokemon Wiki [ text/html ]
00:50 < Kaphotics> 4th gen pkm structure
00:51 < tpp> and the position of the party pokemon is dynamically allocated?
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00:51 < Kaphotics> it's static for a particular ROM build
00:51 <~Alpha> we should really rename that to Pokemon PK4 Structure
00:52 < tpp> save file doesn't contain up-to-date information, I'd rather extract it from memory
00:52 < Kaphotics> right, thing is we only use AR codes
00:52 <~Alpha> well, some of us use telepathy
00:52 < Kaphotics> load a pointer, go to offset depending on pointer value, write data
00:52 <~Alpha> but that's not for everyone
00:53 < tpp> I'm not looking to write, I'm looking to read
00:53 < Kaphotics> either way
00:53 < Kaphotics> it's the same principle for reading data
00:54 < Kaphotics> you need to find where you want to read/-write-
00:55 < Kaphotics> 94000130 FFFB0000 B21C4D28 00000000 B0000004 00000000 E0000304 00000088
00:55 < Kaphotics> example AR code
00:55 < tpp> AR codes don't really help me at all
00:55 < tpp> Lua script would be appreciated :)
00:55 < Kaphotics> if key pressed, load pointer at 21C4D28, etc, write 88 bytes... payload
00:55 < Kaphotics> there is no lua script
00:56 < Kaphotics> if you're feeling lazy
00:56 < Kaphotics> make some stuff in pokegen
00:56 < Kaphotics> edit your save file
00:56 < tpp> looks like this sort of stuff is beyond me, I had enough difficulty reading bytes and have them be correct most of the time
00:56 < Kaphotics> and look at the RAM to find your PIDs
00:56 < Kaphotics> it's not
00:56 < tpp> I think you don't understand my use case, see: http://twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon
00:56 <+Nene> tpp's URL: Twitch [ text/html; 22.33 kB ]
00:56 < Kaphotics> oh, I'm well aware
00:56 < Kaphotics> there's no freebies to be had here, because there are none to begin with
00:57 < Kaphotics> nobody has made a party watch lua script (well, I did one for gen V)
00:57 < tpp> oh well
00:57 < tpp> that sucks then :)
00:57 < Kaphotics> simply because gen 4 was never emulated well until after gen V came out
00:57 < tpp> gen4 will go without
00:57 < Kaphotics> if you seriously spend 10 minutes of time you can find your answer
00:58 < Kaphotics> just make 'magic' PIDs with a save editor and find them in the RAM
00:58 < tpp> it's not 10 minutes for someone unfamilliar with this sort of thing
00:58 < Kaphotics> it's 10 minutes
00:58 < Kaphotics> take save file
00:58 < tpp> I wrange other people's code to serve me a purpose
00:58 < Kaphotics> make 6 random things
00:59 < tpp> that's what takes *me* 10 minutes
00:59 < Kaphotics> and find them with RAM search
00:59 < Kaphotics> there is no code for you to copy
00:59 <+SciresM> Okay
00:59 < tpp> and will that stay consistent?
00:59 <+SciresM> I don't know if it's like Gen V
00:59 < tpp> or will I have to do that every time I load up the game?
00:59 < Kaphotics> there is no DMA in gen 4/5
00:59 <+SciresM> But gen V ek5 files are literally stored in RAM
00:59 <+SciresM> I was playing around with that yesterday
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00:59 <~Alpha> ek5 files are hard to search
00:59 <+SciresM> ?
00:59 < a_> hi
00:59 < Kaphotics> which is why you search for the PID
01:00 <+SciresM> Search for Pid + 00
01:00 <+SciresM> (00*2)
01:00 < Kaphotics> because that's never encrypted (it's the decryption key)
01:00 <~Alpha> pid only shows up in the pk5
01:00 < Flash> Alpha, where's your 3ds?
01:00 <~Alpha> oh, I see
01:00 <+SciresM> no, Alpha
01:00 < Kaphotics> alpha u nub
01:00 <+SciresM> pid + 00 00 at start of every ek5
01:00 <~Alpha> Flash, you took it
01:00 <~Alpha> can i have it back?
01:00 < Flash> yes
01:00  * Flash throws the 3ds back at Alpha
01:00 < tpp> sorry, I was expecting information, not clique drama
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11:08 < Jdbye|Laptop> Kazo: are you working on a TPP-like script or something?
11:13 < Kazo> helping out tpp with a 4th ghen script
[... days pass ...]
17:42 < Chase> Kazo, how went the thing with TPP?
18:31 < Kazo> Chase its done
18:31 < Kazo> it reports party pokemon id, hp, maxhp, level, money. badges, and pokedex seen/own counts
18:42 < Chase> Did you do nicknames as well?
18:42 < Chase> For the party pokemon that is.
18:42 < Kazo> no he never asked me for that
18:42 < Chase> Ah.