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  1. 20:00  @Orinda          • Mikrobi
  2. 20:00  @Orinda          • just to let you know
  3. 20:00  @Orinda          • I won't return Swiss region
  4.  20:00  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • oki Orinda
  5.  20:00  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • oki
  6.  
  7. 20:03  +Cookies_Crisp   • Orinda you do realize that you are undermining Hungary with that?
  8.  20:04  @Orinda          • do you realize that romania will propose NE on us
  9.  20:04  @Orinda          • and take our regions
  10.  20:04  @Orinda          • who will help us defend, you?
  11.  20:04  @Orinda          • like Hungarian originals, right?
  12.  20:04  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • wait wait
  13.  20:04  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • dont u got NAP
  14.  20:04  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • ?
  15.  20:04  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • or u got just NAP when you need to atack them
  16.  20:04  +Cookies_Crisp   • Orinda you have a NAP
  17.  20:04  +Cookies_Crisp   • as i understood :P
  18.  20:04  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • and when u got to defend u dont have a nap ?
  19.  20:04  @Orinda          • we don't have a NAP NAP
  20.  20:05  @Orinda          • we have a deal with president
  21.  20:05  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • that tell them
  22.  20:05  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • how we dont help ONE to delete you
  23.  20:05  @Orinda          • anyway, i will contact Romania
  24.  20:05  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • now u will do the same favour to us
  25.  20:05  @Orinda          • but nice from Hungary, that they are puting us in this position
  26.  20:06  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • ah rly
  27.  20:06  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • ?
  28.  20:06  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • and when u put them
  29.  20:06  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • in this situation
  30.  20:06  @Orinda          • don't worry, i will fix this
  31.  20:06  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • what should they talk ?
  32.  20:06  @Orinda          • but i will make sure we won't give back swiss region
  33.  20:06  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • its 1-1
  34.  20:06  @Orinda          • so tell them to find another way
  35.  20:06  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • oki u dont get it back
  36. 20:06  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • oki
  37.  20:06  ~gid1            • Orinda: u can't be part of team and not follow the bench :)
  38.  20:06  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • Orinda:
  39.  20:06  ~gid1            • u broke every possible rule
  40.  20:06  ~gid1            • all countries are respecting
  41.  20:06  ~gid1            • for year
  42.  20:06  +Cookies_Crisp   • Orinda im sure you enjoyed when ONE fought for you
  43.  20:06  ~gid1            • in this alliance
  44.  20:07  +Cookies_Crisp   • but when it's time to help a friend
  45.  20:07  +Cookies_Crisp   • ...
  46.  20:07  ~gid1            • u see sometimes we don't like what we do but we still do it as we are playing as team and this is all we want to do here
  47.  20:08  ~gid1            • main error is this TW u started without any consultation with anyone
  48.  20:08  ~gid1            • in worst possible moment and one sided...
  49.  20:08  ~gid1            • without trying to coordinate attacks
  50.  20:09  ~gid1            • in moments when there is no importance for allies
  51.  20:09  ~gid1            • and one of 4 basic rules is no NE is allowed without consultation
  52.  20:09  ~gid1            • so u put me in a very bad position
  53.  20:09  ~gid1            • no country ever behaved like this since we created alliance
  54.  20:09  ~gid1            • ...
  55.  20:10  ~gid1            • so nobody had to do anything about it
  56.  20:10  @Orinda          • austria will voted down the proposal
  57.  20:10  ~gid1            • what proposal?
  58.  20:10  @Orinda          • NE
  59.  20:10  ~gid1            • i speak about war Slovenia Croatia
  60.  20:10  @Orinda          • http://www.erepublik.com/en/Austria/law/98046
  61.  20:10  +Cookies_Crisp   • he knows
  62.  20:11  @Orinda          • hungarians talked to austrians to propose NE on us
  63.  20:11  @Orinda          • without letting us know about it
  64.  20:11  @Orinda          • Vreath to 0rinda | 8 minutes ago
  65.  20:11  @Orinda          • We will try to vote it down but i thought that this plan was approved by you, seems there was some missunderstanding, sorry for putting you in trouble mate!
  66.  20:11  @Orinda          • ---
  67.  20:11  ~gid1            • i will check that issue too...
  68.  20:12  ~gid1            • can u tell me something about these issues i mentioned'
  69.  20:12  ~gid1            • ?
  70.  20:13  ~gid1            • and your idea of how to keep things up as this way they simply cannot?
  71.  20:13  ~gid1            • Orinda: ?
  72.  20:13  @Orinda          • what are you talkin about?
  73.  20:13  @Orinda          • haven't read the logs above
  74.  20:13  ~gid1            • oh
  75.  20:14  ~gid1            • i said that u simply cannot play as part of team and do what u want all the time
  76.  20:14  ~gid1            • no country does that
  77.  20:14  ~gid1            • sometimes we don't like it but we go for it
  78.  20:14  ~gid1            • because we are team
  79. 20:14  ~gid1            • and i said that
  80.  20:14  @Orinda          • what specific are you talkin about?
  81.  20:14  ~gid1            • by NEing croatia
  82.  20:14  ~gid1            • u broke one of 4 basic rules
  83.  20:14  ~gid1            • of alliance
  84.  20:14  @Orinda          • everything for Don
  85.  20:15  ~gid1            • well yes but u HAD TO contact HQ, make deal about it
  86.  20:15  ~gid1            • program battles
  87.  20:15  ~gid1            • in order to take place when not needed
  88.  20:15  @Orinda          • i already made a deal with craots
  89.  20:15  &Iain_Keers      • it is not just you who makes deals
  90.  20:15  ~gid1            • u are not in alliance with croatia but with us
  91.  20:15  &Iain_Keers      • you have to consult with HQ about things like that
  92.  20:15  ~gid1            • so u need approval for ANY deal u want to try to make!
  93.  20:15  ~gid1            • even TRY
  94.  20:16  ~gid1            • so first u come to alliance
  95.  20:16                   • Hercegno_pancsol is now known as Hercegno
  96.  20:16  ~gid1            • ask if it's ok with everyone
  97.  20:16  ~gid1            • than u go to croatia and see if u can
  98.  20:16  ~gid1            • ...
  99.  20:16  ~gid1            • that's how we all work
  100.  20:16  ~gid1            • for entire year
  101.  20:16  @Orinda          • like hungarians, right?
  102.  20:16  @Orinda          • http://www.erepublik.com/en/Austria/law/98046
  103.  20:16  @Orinda          • did they ask you?
  104.  20:16  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • i dont see
  105.  20:17  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • that is huganry
  106.  20:17  +Cookies_Crisp   • +!
  107.  20:17  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • law i saw that its austria
  108.  20:17  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • law
  109.  20:17  @Orinda          • Vreath to 0rinda | one minute ago
  110.  20:17  @Orinda          • Seems there is a missunderstanding between Hungary and you
  111.  20:17  ~gid1            • and if some hungarian mod is angry
  112.  20:17  @Orinda          • 0rinda to Vreath | one minute ago
  113.  20:17  @Orinda          • Hungary told you to NE us?
  114.  20:17  @Orinda          • Vreath to 0rinda | one minute ago
  115. 20:17  @Orinda          • Yes. You can ask mikrobi.
  116.  20:17  @Orinda          • Vreath to 0rinda | one minute ago
  117.  20:17  @Orinda          • We will try to vote it down but i thought that this plan was approved by you, seems there was some missunderstanding, sorry for putting you in trouble mate!
  118.  20:17  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • Orinda:
  119.  20:17  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • everyone can do that
  120.  20:17  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • as i said it
  121.  20:17  ~gid1            • as i said this is new issue
  122.  20:17  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • THAT ITS NOT an offical hungary law
  123.  20:17  ~gid1            • and i'll deal with that too
  124.  20:17  &[eBMPO]Shadow   • its austrian LAW
  125.  20:17  @Orinda          • i guess we aren't the only problem then
  126.  20:17  ~gid1            • this NEVER happened before
  127.  20:17  @Orinda          • some other countries are as well
  128.  20:18  @Orinda          • which means something isn't right in this alliance
  129.  20:18  ~gid1            • countries never had problems in exchange of regions
  130.  20:18  ~gid1            • in placing NE
  131.  20:18  ~gid1            • or something like that
  132.  20:18  ~gid1            • ...
  133.  20:18  &Iain_Keers      • i think the issue, to be blunt, is that every country is fighting for the survival of ONE
  134.  20:18  +Cookies_Crisp   • no it means Slovenia wants help from ONE but not TO help ONE
  135.  20:18  &Iain_Keers      • but slovenia seems to be fighting for the survival of slovenia
  136.  20:18  &Iain_Keers      • and it is ruining morale
  137.  20:19  &Iain_Keers      • there is a feeling all you care about is keeping bonuses intact
  138.  20:19  &Iain_Keers      • and not taking risks
  139.  20:19  &Iain_Keers      • but that means when you get NE'd
  140.  20:19  &Iain_Keers      • who is going to take a risk to help?
  141.  20:19  &Iain_Keers      • when you have shown that you won't do that for others?
  142.  20:19  @Orinda          • 20:18 &Iain_Keers • but slovenia seems to be fighting for the survival of slovenia
  143.  20:19  ~gid1            • it's like a player of a soccer team that is affraid to take ball because he is affraid enemies will break his legs...
  144.  20:19  @Orinda          • seems like hungary is doing the same for them
  145.  20:19  ~gid1            • no, we all fight to save them congress
  146.  20:19  ~gid1            • because alliance needs all members
  147.  20:20  @Orinda          • i'm just sayin
  148.  20:20  ~gid1            • with congress
  149.  20:20  ~gid1            • ...
  150.  20:20  @[Illuminati]DarkoDimovski • orinda we were deleted
  151.  20:20  @Orinda          • anyway, i don't have time atm
  152.  20:20  @Orinda          • cya later
  153.  20:20  @[Illuminati]DarkoDimovski • and still we sended all help :)
  154.  20:20  &Iain_Keers      • if you were a real team player you would have asked them yourself
  155.  20:20  +Cookies_Crisp   • interesting ...
  156.  20:20  &Iain_Keers      • for the NE
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