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Yes, science = Islamaphobic lies. Science says that cutting the throats of cattle causes more pain than stunning.

Brain signals have shown that calves do appear to feel pain when slaughtered according to Jewish and Muslim religious law, strengthening the case for adapting the practices to make them more humane.

“I think our work is the best evidence yet that it’s painful,” says Craig Johnson, who led the study at Massey University in Palmerston North, New Zealand.

The team first cut calves’ throats in a procedure matching that of Jewish and Muslim slaughter methods. They detected a pain signal lasting for up to 2 minutes after the incision. When their throats are cut, calves generally lose consciousness after 10 to 30 seconds, sometimes longer…

Cut-throat practice

The researchers then showed that the pain originates from cutting throat nerves, not from the loss of blood, suggesting the severed nerves send pain signals until the time of death. Finally, they stunned animals 5 seconds after incision and showed that this makes the pain signal disappear instantly.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17972-animals-feel-the-pain-of-religious-slaughter.html

Lester - May 30, 2013
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ah.. the science that attempts to resolve the mysteries of the universe, the existence and everything and always fails at it!
then it’s time lester teaches these americans about the scientific discovery of measuring pain and happiness from brain signals.

nobody - May 30, 2013
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before lester begins his response let me add this too: i don’t agree to the findings that measure the pain and pleasure of plants using electrochemical signals too.

what was ones the metaphysicists domain was leased out to the scientists and the result is more questions than that were attempted to be answered!

nobody - May 30, 2013
4:43 am
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and re-inventing of the ancient wheels of philosophers and theologians and patenting of them by theoretical physicists and roboticists cum cognitive scientists.

“For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountain of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” – a wise man

nobody - May 30, 2013
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Science seperated from metaphysics (philosophy) for good reason. Philosophy relies on speculation not necessarily backed by any experimental proof. Without experimentation, there is no way to establish the practical limitations of a theory. This leads to blind belief and decreases the likelihood of future discoveries.

Now, this experiment to test whether cattle suffered more due to stunning or halal/kosher can be repeated by anyone. That is why it is called an experiment; the results can be empirically verified.

Whether you agree with the results of this experiment is irrelevent until you perform your own experiment to test the same hpothesis, and reach a different conclusion that is empirically verifiable.

Lester - May 30, 2013
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there are three kinds of science i see:
1. one that attempts to unravel the mysteries of universe and existence and always fails at it. producing more questions that it originally attempted to answer, bringing us all the way back to the square one. a decent one with purely good motivation.
2. another that makes computers a reality and lands man on the moon. it’s the science that leads to technology for the better or worse of humanity. a pursuit that’s worth.
2. and then there is the third hilarious one in which you study some 30 or 32 people lifestyles and conclude that mobile phones cause brain cancer.

now will lester explain us about how he was convinced that the correlation between pain and those brain signals mean they are one and the same? i guess lester is one of those undergrad kids that are dogmatically inflicted with the belief that there is an answer with science for everything. and then i wonder why he is on a mission to back up buddhism which isn’t quite in agreement with fighting for what appeals to logic, much less the senses. lester should put away those programming textbooks and science outreach articles on vitamin D and pick up some books on basic mathematics and learn all the way up to a point where he understands the works of Godel and others. it will help him with the intellectual deficiency the pseudo intellectuals typically suffer from. then he will understand philosophy and metaphysics aren’t kids play.

the brute force empirical science is the last resort people attempt when they feel the exact scientific results are far complicated for them with their tool chest.

nobody - May 30, 2013
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if lester finds himself in shortage of supplementary material for his arguments in his islamophobia handbook, i would like to direct him to the works of dawkins and sam harris whose inflated egos in their narrow specializations also make them believe that there are scientific solutions to even social and metaphysical questions and that metaphysics is a bankrupt field of knowledge! In the meantime he should also check out what responses these individuals received from contemporary philosophers and theologians and even mathematicians and Higgs!!

nobody - May 30, 2013
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also lester should take up some general classes in scientific methodology and history of science in order to understand that there are avenues which exclusively for speculative and constructive theorizing and there are avenues exclusively meant for experimentation and then there is the little portion that lester knows of where theories can be put in the test tubes. does lester have any idea that most of the science he reads now didn’t originate from experiments and that mathematical theories are founded on axioms?

nobody - May 30, 2013
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There is only one kind of worthy science. It is science based on experimentation. Even though Einstein preferred theoretical physics to experimental physics, all of his predictions have been experimentally or otherwise empirically verified. Einstein did not like quantum mechanics, given its reliance on probabilities (“God does not play dice”); nevertheless, quantum mechanics has been validated over and over again, in everything from semiconductors to electron guns. Nanotechnology is the latest application of quantum theory.

now will lester explain us about how he was convinced that the correlation between pain and those brain signals mean they are one and the same?

“nobody” does not understand how science works. The study I gave was performed in a university and published in established research journals. If “nobody” knew how to read professional papers, he would know that in the abstract of this paper, are references to previous studies which corroborate the findings of the investigators.

and pick up some books on basic mathematics

I am sure that my level of mathematics training far exceeds “nobodys.” After all, nobody, being a Muslim, believes in “miracles” and that an illiterate Bedouin barbarian camel jockey in the desert talked to an invisible creature named “God” in the sky. Anyone with an ounce of mathematical training would reject such rubbish as speculation.

most of the science he reads now didn’t originate from experiments

The origin of science has nothing to do with the end result. If a theory cannot be tested, then science holds no opinion of it. In the case of a cow having its throat slit, however, there are easy, objectivee ways to analyze the level of pain the cow is experiencing. One only has to analyze the pattern of brain signals.

and that mathematical theories are founded on axioms?

Every system of logic has certain axioms. It is the only way to avoid circular reasoning. You cannot have logic without axioms.

Lester - May 31, 2013
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There is only one kind of worthy science.
Sorry, you need a long way to go, lester. a shortcut to appreciating the fact otherwise is to read some history of science. Hawking compiled a bunch of historical work which he put in two books for you: “On the shoulders of giants…” and “God creaed the integers…”.

Einstein…predictions have been experimentally or otherwise empirically verified. shows how much lester knows science than searches “about science” for his war on islam. even path finder missions to future space missions to valid some of his theories are still at their technical qualification stage. ground based experiments are still being calibrated.

quantum mechanics, …has been validated over and over again :/ well, there is more going on lester. you hear that from the quantum physicists camp. the peak was during feynmann’s time and now people getting saner by the day.

The study I gave was performed in a university and published in established research journals. lesters ‘established’ research journals (i believe he sure went to the reference at new scientist :D ) do publish mutually contradicting theories. it’s the practice in science. As lester likes to quote a bit of popular culture quantum mechanics news, let me remind him that the EPR paradox first made popular by established peer reviewed journals. What lester needs is a common academic practice of making an impartial search on arguments from all sides, which he will learn when gets some training professional research practices in literature survey. one abstract from one side isn’t enough. Maybe lester can take a look some science outreach effort by the cybernetics, neural nets, robotics and intelligent systems research groups? And i don’t understand why massey university in NZ needs a bold highlighting :D lester considers his university entrance the biggest achievement of his life?

I am sure that my level of mathematics training far exceeds “nobodys.” lester’s lack of training in mathematics was rather deduced from the previous comments – sorry. being able to perform arithmatics doesn’t amount to being trained in mathematics.

being a Muslim, believes in “miracles”
well, who doesn’t in believe miracles now lester? :D i don’t think it anything more than being a macroscopic version of asking to believe that the cat is both dead and alive until the box is open and that even whole atoms are now passing both slits :D Lester is directed to the writings of Bertrand Russell on philosophical implications of the results in quantum mechanics for a quick, but short-lived, recovery if that just confused him of his own ‘beliefs’.

barbarian camel jockey
oops, that’s a symptom of islamophobia, for which professional assistance is now available :D

invisible creature named “God”
Lester needs to look at the more grown-up definition of God with a capital G. A basic reading on the works of number theory, or even the dialogo by Galileo Galilei, would be of some help.

Anyone with an ounce of mathematical training would reject such rubbish as speculation.
I would like to ask lester to take a look at the last words of principia.

If a theory cannot be tested, then science holds no opinion of it. yeah, that sells very well in some observational biologist circles. the failure of alienating some science kids from mathematics (mathematicophobia? :D ). a wise man once said “All science is either physics or stamp collecting”.

One only has to analyze the pattern of brain signals. lester still doesn’t answer ‘the question’!

You cannot have logic without axioms. good. now not all axioms in mathematical theories are empirically observed.

Finally,
i accept defeat by lester on one thing: that i can’t be an internet warrior 24/7 to come back to this page on a daily basis. i have to put my effort to generate science. so go on lester. read more than you write. God bless you.

I would have felt sorry for the Lord. The theory is correct. – a wise man

nobody - May 31, 2013
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oops sorry i posted the comment in another place :(

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

There is only one kind of worthy science.
Sorry, you need a long way to go, lester. a shortcut to appreciating the fact otherwise is to read some history of science. Hawking compiled a bunch of historical work which he put in two books for you: “On the shoulders of giants…” and “God creaed the integers…”.

Einstein…predictions have been experimentally or otherwise empirically verified. shows how much lester knows science than searches “about science” for his war on islam. even path finder missions to future space missions to valid some of his theories are still at their technical qualification stage. ground based experiments are still being calibrated.

quantum mechanics, …has been validated over and over again :/ well, there is more going on lester. you hear that from the quantum physicists camp. the peak was during feynmann’s time and now people getting saner by the day.

The study I gave was performed in a university and published in established research journals. lesters ‘established’ research journals (i believe he sure went to the reference at new scientist :D ) do publish mutually contradicting theories. it’s the practice in science. As lester likes to quote a bit of popular culture quantum mechanics news, let me remind him that the EPR paradox first made popular by established peer reviewed journals. What lester needs is a common academic practice of making an impartial search on arguments from all sides, which he will learn when gets some training professional research practices in literature survey. one abstract from one side isn’t enough. Maybe lester can take a look some science outreach effort by the cybernetics, neural nets, robotics and intelligent systems research groups? And i don’t understand why massey university in NZ needs a bold highlighting :D lester considers his university entrance the biggest achievement of his life?

I am sure that my level of mathematics training far exceeds “nobodys.” lester’s lack of training in mathematics was rather deduced from the previous comments – sorry. being able to perform arithmatics doesn’t amount to being trained in mathematics.

being a Muslim, believes in “miracles”
well, who doesn’t in believe miracles now lester? :D i don’t think it anything more than being a macroscopic version of asking to believe that the cat is both dead and alive until the box is open and that even whole atoms are now passing both slits :D Lester is directed to the writings of Bertrand Russell on philosophical implications of the results in quantum mechanics for a quick, but short-lived, recovery if that just confused him of his own ‘beliefs’. btw, i also heard of an enlighten man millennia ago was having conversations with what an apostle of science like lester would now call voices in the head? :D Even men and lions gave birth to human kids lester – An experiment that was never tried again!!

barbarian camel jockey
oops, that’s a symptom of islamophobia, for which professional assistance is now available :D

invisible creature named “God”
Lester needs to look at the more grown-up definition of God with a capital G. A basic reading on the works of number theory, or even the dialogo by Galileo Galilei, would be of some help.

Anyone with an ounce of mathematical training would reject such rubbish as speculation.
I would like to ask lester to take a look at the last words of principia.

If a theory cannot be tested, then science holds no opinion of it. yeah, that sells very well in some observational biologist circles. the failure of alienating some science kids from mathematics (mathematicophobia? :D ). a wise man once said “All science is either physics or stamp collecting”.

One only has to analyze the pattern of brain signals. lester still doesn’t answer ‘the question’!

You cannot have logic without axioms. good. next lession: now not all axioms in mathematical theories are empirically observed.

Finally,
i accept defeat by lester on one thing: that i can’t be an internet warrior 24/7 to come back to this page on a daily basis. i have to put my effort to generate science. so go on lester. read more than you write. God bless you.

I would have felt sorry for the Lord. The theory is correct. – a wise man

nobody - May 31, 2013
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“nobody” has lost the argument and is now wandering in circles like a wounded dog.

Hawking compiled a bunch of historical work which he put in two books for you: “On the shoulders of giants…” and “God creaed the integers…”.

Hawking is an atheist and is a physicist, not a mathematician. According to Hawking, “Heaven is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.” As for the integers, they are just a subset of the real numbers. When uneducated buffoons read quotes like “God created the integers” they suddenly feel special, without realizing the triviality of such statements.

even path finder missions to future space missions to valid some of his theories are still at their technical qualification stage

Science took man to the moon, Islam did not.

the peak was during feynmann’s time

The peak of quantum mechanics has yet to be reached; quantum computing and nanotechnology are still at their early stages.

‘established’ research journals (i believe he sure went to the reference at new scientist :D ) do publish mutually contradicting theories. it’s the practice in science.

Of course there are competing theories. Science is not like Islam, where you bend and blindly accept the next dose of stupidity like a heroin addict. But there is also something called a consensus . The consensus in science is that halal/kosher causes more pain to animals than stunning. Since you have obviously never read a professional paper, the abstract usually explains what the consensus is, and the extent to which the findings of the investigators deviates from the latter .

well, who doesn’t in believe miracles now lester?

Science does not believe in miracles. You can spin it any amount you like, but that’s the bottom line. Once you accept one miracle, it leaves open the possibility of an infinite number, distorting the possibility of objective results.

o the writings of Bertrand Russell on philosophical implications of the results in quantum mechanics

The philosophy of quantum mechanics and the theory/application of quantum mechanics are two different things with zero overlap. Philosophy is nothing but speculation with zero proof. Quantum mechanics works , at a mathematical level, and at an empirical level. It does not need “philosophical justification” to work.

look at the more grown-up definition of God with a capital G. A basic reading on the works of number theory,

The definition of God: a non-existant being who appeals to weak minds. There is no connection between God and number theory. Unless you want to suggest that the illiterate Bedouin camel jockey was also a number theorist. Did “God” reveal to him the number of underage girls he would abuse the next day?

now not all axioms in mathematical theories are empirically observed.

Mathematics does not need empirical justification. Although this justification is observed, indirectly, in the successful application of mathematics to science.

i have to put my effort to generate science.

You mean you have to pray 4 more times, and read your book of mythology. One should expect no less from a weak mind.

The Jews have seen through Jesus and Mohammed. In retrospect, many of them have also seen through the mythical, primitive, and cruel figures of Abraham and Moses. Nearer to our own time, in the bitter combats over the work of Marx and Freud and Einstein, Jewish participants and protagonists have not been the least noticeable. May this always be the case, whenever any human primate sets up, or is set up by others, as a Messiah.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Hitch-22: A Memoir

Lester - May 31, 2013
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i learned that lester replied. let me try. but it’s already turning out to be fruitless talking to lester.

Hawking is an atheist and is a physicist, not a mathematician. According to Hawking, “Heaven is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.” As for the integers, they are just a subset of the real numbers. When uneducated buffoons read quotes like “God created the integers” they suddenly feel special, without
realizing the triviality of such statements. in an attempt to educate lester, let me tell him that those two phrases are popular statements in mathematical sciences that Hawking (or anybody that knows a bit of history would have) wanted to use in his title.

‘Nobody’ asked you to check out those books not to preach you religion :D that’s what happens when you are prejudiced.

Epic lester!

Nobody: even path finder missions to future space missions to valid some
of his theories are still at their technical qualification stage

Lester: Science took man to the moon, Islam did not.

That point was to tell lester that his idea that everything Einstein has
been experimentally verified is incorrect. Can’t help an out and out islamophobe. The job of
a religion is not to take lester to the moon :D

Nobody: the peak was during feynmann’s time

Lester: The peak of quantum mechanics has yet to be reached; quantum
computing and nanotechnology are still at their early stages.

Lester could have taken some time to understand the flow of the argument. The
‘peak’ meant theoretical glory. Not the realization of technical applications.

Of course there are competing theories. Science is not like Islam, …

That’s this kid’s islamophobia speaking for which professional assistance is
now available. ‘Nobody’ didn’t say it was wrong. Actually ‘nobody’ attempted to
help lester deduce :D the fact in science there are competing theories
presented side by side.

abstract usually explains what the consensus is, and the extent to
which the findings of the investigators deviates from the latter .

So that’s how abstracts are written? :D

Science does not believe in miracles.

In science when you find absurdities you take some time to call them the ordinary :D

Once you accept one miracle, it leaves open the possibility of an
infinite number, distorting the possibility of objective results.

So the lion-man joint venture lester? :D an experimental observation that
went never reproduced :D and Buddha’s hypotheses of heavenly beings? you may choose to bury your head in the sand thinking nobody notices.

Quantum mechanics works, at a mathematical level, and at an
empirical level. It does not need “philosophical justification” to work.

‘nobody’ helped lester for his retaliation with Russells notes actually :D Russell doesn’t philosophically justify as Lester presupposes.
so lester wants to say the cat was both alive and dead? :D because the math
went fine? Maybe then there is a lester in a parallel universe that writes in
defense of islam :D btw, confined to their domain, a lot of crackpot science
models ‘work’ too :D fudge factors ‘work’. Order of magnitude cancellations ‘work’.

Nobody: look at the more grown-up definition of God with a capital G. A
basic reading on the works of number theory,

Lester: The definition of God: a non-existant being who appeals to weak
minds.

That’s why ‘nobody’ asked lester to read a grown-up definition :D

There is no connection between God and number theory.

‘nobody’ didn’t imply a connection. ‘nobody’ wanted to help lester broaden
his mind to help it understand the grown up definition :D sometimes it demans a lot of patience to educate some kids.

Did “God” reveal to him the number of underage girls he would abuse the
next day?

Diversion? Ok, lets hear how old lester’s grandpa and granma were when lester’s mom or the eldest aunt/uncle was born? if the smallest of those numbers is anything greater than 14 (or any number that would make the women in concern fertile), then please go one step above in the family tree and perform the same search and repeat this step until you get to 14 and report us with how many nodes you had to go up and the average life of a person in the part of the tree you traversed :D

Mathematics does not need empirical justification. Although this
justification is observed, indirectly, in the successful application of
mathematics to science.

Shows how much mathematics lester is introduced to :D Go read a book called ‘a
mathematicians apology’ by G.H. Hardy. Now don’t tell us there was an attempt
to teach you religion like in the case of Hawkin’s books :D

… Christopher Hitchens, Hitch-22: A Memoir

Come on lester, all what you could find was Hitchens? :D I thought with
google, the reason why you enrolled in your online islamophobia mission because
you were void of reasoning in real life conversations, you could do better
heshan.

Look at you lester:

Lester – May 31, 2013 4:30 am
Lester – May 31, 2013 4:54 am: after a break of 24 mins
Lester – May 31, 2013 12:07 pm: after a 7 hrs
Lester – May 31, 2013 1:59 pm: 2 hrs later
Lester – May 31, 2013 2:00 pm
Lester – May 31, 2013 9:32 pm: 7 hrs later
Lester – May 31, 2013 9:40 pm: 30 mins later :D

Under one article in a single day!! How many other pages are there where I
see you :D Are you on a paid mission dude? At least reimbursed? :D another
comment: Lester – May 31, 2013 3:59 am, 30 mins before the first one, under another article where on the same day you post 3 comments :D so goes lester’s legend!

So lester, now that you have carefully been turned into an internet apostle
of science, when are you enlightening the mass about the mahavamsa mythology, the
belief on experimentally unobservable karma, the Buddha’s revelations about
enlightenment and his conversations with heavenly beings and the lion-human interbreeding? :D :D :D  Btw, it’s gonna take a lot more work than quoting vitamin D stories from
newscientist and your computer programming skills :D so instead of wasting your
energy like writing islamophobic rants 24/7, selectively omitting questions
thrown at you, and diverting the conversation to random points of islamophobia
from your handbook and eventually contributing to the spread of islam, you
should, as ‘nobody’ suggests, read more than you write :D

nobody - May 31, 2013
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to end with a quote:
Blind metaphysical necessity, which is certainly the same always and everywhere, could produce no variety of things – a wise man

nobody - June 1, 2013
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Epic lester!

What is epic is when you try to prove your absurd metaphysical jibberish by bringing up Hawking, who is a die-hard atheist. Equally laughable: when you try to showcaste the “metaphysical” aspects of mathematics with idiotic references to “God created the integers.”

That point was to tell lester that his idea that everything Einstein has been experimentally verified is incorrect.

Except that you cannot name even one such thing – what a coincidence! Oh wait, there are no coincidences in this Quranic universe, only miracles .

So the lion-man joint venture lester?

No Sinhalese believes that a human and a lion actually mated. On the other hand, practically every Muslim believes in the following fairytales: “Adam and Eve”, “Noah’s Ark”, “Muhammed’s Night Journey.”

:D Go read a book called ‘a
mathematicians apology’ by G.H. Hardy.

Now the Muslim genius brings up Hardy. That’s atheist number 3. Having trouble finding a famous mathematician/scientist who actually supports your metaphysical babble? Hardy was also a closet gay, not exactly your ideal Islamic role model. And yes, Hardy would support everything I have said here, not least of all the fact that mathematics creates its own reality and hence needs no empirical justification. Being the genius you are, you might want to actually open a book before trying to use it to support your already distorted arguments.

Under one article in a single day!! How many other pages are there where I
see you

All those smiley faces… is Allah not helping you out with the diarrhea? Science has a solution for that too, btw.

when are you enlightening the mass about the mahavamsa mythology

As soon as Sinhala-Buddhist suicide bombers start exploding like firecrackers, in their desire to consummate with 72 houri in Buddha’s heaven, I shall gladly enlighten you.

all what you could find was Hitchens?

Hitchens actually has a point, considering how your Hamas brothers are committed to the full and total destruction of Israel, as they state in their charter:

On the Destruction of Israel:

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‘Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will

obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.’ (Preamble)

https://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

Hamas learned well from the illiterate camel jockey, although the method of “fighting back” has hardly improved. A sword vs. throwing rocks; then again, Islamic innovation is an oxymoron.

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Lester - June 1, 2013
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Good morning Lester,

Here are my responses to your quick response:

What is epic is when you try to prove your absurd metaphysical jibberish by bringing up Hawking, who is a die-hard atheist. Equally laughable: when you try to showcaste the “metaphysical” aspects of mathematics with idiotic references to “God created the integers.”

Super-Epic Lester. a clever one, wasn’t it? here is the full title :D

“God Created the Integers: The Mathematical Breakthroughs That Changed History, edited by Stephen Hawking” is the book i told you about. Btw, when you say “God created the integers”, a lot of Hawking’s readers would already recognize the book. and almost all historians of science would recognize the infamous statement by Kronecker. It has nothing to do with promoting God nor does it have anything to do with showcasing any metaphysical aspects of mathematics ( what the hell is that? :D ) . Go back to my comment on ” May 31, 2013 6:32 pm” to see why you were referred to those books.

Hawking being a die-hard atheist doesn’t matter because it doesn’t matter who compiles
history of science and makes it popular. Those were suggested for you not because of Hawking’s summaries or introduction therein. It’s for the actual content that Hawking tries to present to people like you who think science is done in test tubes and with compound microscopes :D .

You think you cleverly dropped the title of the other book because it didn’t have God in the title? :D
It’s “On the shoulders of giants – great works of physics and astronomy by Stephen Hawking” if i remember correctly. Again anybody who knows ‘enough’ of science would recognize Newton’s statement there.

What is laughable Lester is that you have so much of an issue with your ego that you think people would have simply judged a book from its cover and would have asked you to read. I read first and then i tell others to do Lester, unlike you google-search or scan through your islamophobia database and boast about your islamophobic understanding.

btw, a die-hard ( :D ) atheist and agnostic and an ordinary atheist aren’t the same lester. If Hawking was a die-hard ( :D ) atheist, what title people like Dawkins deserve? And you who is using atheism as a front cover for your racist chauvinism?

That point was to tell lester that his idea that everything Einstein has been experimentally verified is incorrect.

Except that you cannot name even one such thing. what a coincidence!
I thought Lester, with google in your next browser tab, why should I not let you do your own homework. And in the meantime your response demonstrates how much science you are in touch with. So drop that vitamin D science card and play your plain chauvinist racist card. I already gave you a clue in my response on May 31, 2013 6:26 pm. and ironically you thought you had responded it with your hate for islam on May 31, 2013 9:32 pm. Let me give you another clue. A friend of mine is a researcher in a ground based facility and works on tuning up the adaptive optics instrumentation required to verify a certain crucial prediction by Albert Einstein. Another friend of mine experimentally characterized a certain rocket propellent for a future experiment that would attempt the same in the outer space to a greater precision. now go to http://www.google.com/ncr. but you can freely choose to bury your head again in the sand as usual, everyone knows the pain the little kid that you go through. Are you the one that told David Blacker that North Korea isn’t a member of the UN? and that in the time of google? on a non-instant internet conversation? :D :D time to find another fake name Lester (and make sure you inform your paymasters in advance so your performance appraisal isn’t affected).

Oh wait, there are no coincidences in this Quranic universe, only miracles
No Lester, a lot of stuff in the Quran are ordinary things. Miracles are miracles, if you get what i mean. In the life of Moses as reported in the Quran, miracles happen in only a countable number of times. Ask your superior for a break and read the Quran from the front cover to the end. Try telling them you are doing it to compensate for the lack of knowledge for your online islamophobia rants, next thing you will see is a letter of termination from the enterprise de islamophobia :D and welcome lester, there is always room for you in islam :)

So the lion-man joint venture lester?

No Sinhalese believes that a human and a lion actually mated. On the other hand, practically every Muslim believes in the following fairytales: “Adam and Eve”, “Noah’s Ark”, “Muhammed’s Night Journey.”
So Lester, where can i find the meta text in Mahavamsa that tells me which part to believe and which to ignore, still maintaining the credibility of the whole text so that it may still be quoted in the history textbooks for sri lankan school kids? btw, It’s not the only myth i asked you about Lester. let me remind you of another question carefully skipped: Do Sinhalese also not believe “an enlightened man millennia ago was having conversations with what a self appointed apostle of science like lester would now call voices in the head” Lester? Ostritch burying its head in the sand? :D

Or if you like playing your new apostle of science role Lester, then do you believe in the irony that probabilistically there exists another universe with a Lester that’s defending islam? and another universe with prince sidhartha being addressed by all the derogatory terms that you use on the prophets of other religions by a Lester there? and another universe where mythology ‘works’ and science fails? :D wow, this miracle of yours is in action every instance in the life a universe!!

Now the Muslim genius brings up Hardy. That’s atheist number 3. ..bla bla bla gay bla…
Again it doesn’t matter what Hardy was Lester. In science it doesn’t matter who says, it matters what they say. Has Lester the self appointed apostle of science not been taught that yet? Now Lester should understand it’s insane to retaliate with “In islam it matters who says, not what they say” :D

Having trouble finding a famous mathematician/scientist who actually supports your metaphysical babble?
Oh the kids of today who go to science schools! Why don’t they teach science with some perspective and history anymore so that these kids will appreciate the way science was developed and understand the that there is more in science to do with foolish wand-waving or silly incantations than the the subtle science and exact art that is potion-making? :D

As for names, there are plenty that i can help you with Lester, but i think it might offend your mind to know that other races also had contributed to civilization. Btw, Lester the wise men i was quoting were non-athiests (and non-muslims which should make you less pissed off :D ), a trivial fact I’m mentioning because Lester fails to read in between the lines. But I’m still searching for Lester’s ancestors to quote, in a hope that it might make this conversation more pleasant to Lester :D However, a lot friends of mine are doing better now, so one day somebody can help Lester’s grand kids ( if they inherit all the memes from Lester :D ) with Sinhalese/ Portuguese names too.

Hardy was also a closet gay, not exactly your ideal Islamic role model.
Nice job with google Lester. But with Hardy I wasn’t trying to teach you islam :D . At May 31, 2013 11:54 pm, I asked Lester to read Hardy’s Apology because Lester had said at May 31, 2013 9:32 pm, “Mathematics does not need empirical justification. Although this justification is observed, indirectly, in the successful application of mathematics to science.” in an attempt to show Lester “how much mathematics lester is introduced to”. So there was no need to look for my ideal islamic role model :D

And yes, Hardy would support everything I have said here, not least of all the fact that mathematics creates its own reality and hence needs no empirical justification. Being the genius you are, you might want to actually open a book before trying to use it to support your already distorted arguments.

Good job with the homework Lester. Google’s existence is justified, i believe. Now lets review our conversation: please go back to my comment on May 30, 2013 10:21 pm in which i ask ” does lester have any idea that most of the science he reads now didn’t originate from experiments and that mathematical theories are founded on axioms?” for which you reply on “May 31, 2013 4:30 am” with “Every system of logic has certain axioms. It is the only way to avoid circular reasoning. You cannot have logic without axioms.” for which i say on May 31, 2013 6:26 pm, “good. now not all axioms in mathematical theories are empirically observed.” to which you respond on May 31, 2013 9:32 pm with “Mathematics does not need empirical justification. Although this justification is observed, indirectly, in the successful application of mathematics to science. ” for which i said “Shows how much mathematics lester is introduced to :D Go read a book called ‘a
mathematicians apology’ by G.H. Hardy.” in an attempt to get across my original point that a whole lot science exists which shows least interest to experimentation and realization, which you hail as the only and unique identity of science. Now you may say the mathematics that Hardy referred to is not applied math, but then i would ask Lester to ask someone to help him review the applications and motives behind the modern efforts in pure mathematics. So when you read a comment, read the whole conversation. It’s not your fault, because I see you are too overloaded with assigned tasks to cover multiple articles at multiple sites :D Again let me tell you Lester, I read first and then i tell others to do Lester, unlike you who demonstrated to being what would the internet dwellers call an epic fail by your ignorance about the contents of Quran and the two Hawking’s books. But, I appreciate the time spent on searching ‘about Hardy’s Apology’. And yes, I mentioned Quran, so I am expecting your classic aggressive diversion tactic in your response :D

Under one article in a single day!! How many other pages are there where I see you
you forgot to delete the above leser? :D I’m afraid i’m embarrassed looking at your record on CT :D or are you a Mr. Smith that replicates?

All those smiley faces… is Allah not helping you out with the diarrhea? Science has a solution for that too, btw.
Is that your way of expressing anger Lester? What, are a 12 year old kid? Then you must be one of those child prodigies, looking at your google skills. Or is it sort of an anger management issue or psychological growth deficiency? is vitamin D not helpful? Do you notice an opportunity for diversion here? :D

when are you enlightening the mass about the mahavamsa mythology

As soon as Sinhala-Buddhist suicide bombers start exploding like firecrackers, in their desire to consummate with 72 houri in Buddha’s heaven, I shall gladly enlighten you.
You should have already begun it Lester. I will save the space here considering redundancy and at it’s actually below my dignity on the internet ( :D ) to detail 1983 and 2009.

all what you could find was Hitchens?

Hitchens actually has a point, considering how your Hamas brothers are committed to the full and total destruction of Israel, as they state in their charter:

On the Destruction of Israel:

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‘Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will

obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.’ (Preamble)

https://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

Hamas learned well from the illiterate camel jockey, although the method of “fighting back” has hardly improved. A sword vs. throwing rocks; then again, Islamic innovation is an oxymoron.

Ah…Lester’s epic diversion :D as always! coz it sounded like “Having trouble finding a famous mathematician/scientist who actually supports your metaphysical babble?” firing back at you Heshan? :D

And you coudln’t find anyone decent having a phobia for God or Abrahamic religions, or islam for that matter? At least I expected Dawkins from you :D is it because i already suggested him to you? :D

Ending the comment with that rant pleases your masters and earns you a bonus Lester? Is Lester unaware of the God believing Jews that continue to oppose Zionism? They might have a point too, no? Oh, Lester belongs to a group that’s well known for its inferiority complex and going onto suppress and oppress the other by means of ugly force and blaming the sane ones of its own race for what they call ‘paavaa deema’!!

At least they fight back in retaliation Lester, don’t go aggressive on the others like in 1983, 2009 in 2013, to mention a few from a little patch of land on the surface of earth.

Finally,
You think you have cleverly skipped a lot of questions i asked you by throwing your random islamophobic hate rants that you repeatedly use under almost every article you comment on CT. I’ll see if i can compile the list of questions i gave you here in another comment. Have a nice adrenaline filled weekend :)

My worthiness is all my doubt –
His merit – all my fear –
Contrasting which my quality
Does however – appear.
- a wise man

nobody - June 1, 2013
8:13 am

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Hi Lester,

Just in case you couldn’t find, I wrote a response on May 31, 2013 11:54 pm, starting with “Good Morning Lester”.

As for the compilation of all my questions that you skipped with your ostrich technique, i will see if i can do it during this weekend. have a nice weekend. holidays on weekends? :D

nobody - June 1, 2013
8:58 pm
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