Teacher, Book, Time Discussions

[09:02] <CherenkovLight-phone> You have final say in the teacher coming, bacon. Was thinking 300-500 bits for a month teaching
[09:03] <CherenkovLight-phone> Ten to twelve how to read. Full time during the day
[09:03] <Bacon_Grease> A full month?
[09:03] <CherenkovLight-phone> Enough to get the literacy down. And givr a couple dictionaries then. Maybe too long?
[09:04] <Bacon_Grease> I just wanna know what you had plans for
[09:04] <Bacon_Grease> How about lodging, food and drink?
[09:04] <Bacon_Grease> Ask the embassy to house them?
[09:04] <CherenkovLight-phone> Hence why the 500 high end, yes bacon
[09:05] <CherenkovLight-phone> Will not teach magic or flight. Earth pony teacher
[09:05] <Bacon_Grease> any how many did you say?
[09:05] <Lonely_Heart> hmm, learning to read and write would be nice, and wouldn't the charity of the equestrian-raised ponies bring that price down a little bit?
[09:06] <CherenkovLight-phone> Ten to twelve. At least enough for the council and maybe one or two others, like a doctor.
[09:06] <Hidden_Glimmer> Or the librarian.
[09:06] <Bacon_Grease> I want to know how many you planned for, because-
[09:07] <Bacon_Grease> the more we get, the more expensive it will be
[09:08] <CherenkovLight-phone> Gonna say maybe magic is in a different script for books and the teacher does not know it.
[09:08] <Bacon_Grease> Not paid to teach it wither
[09:09] <Bacon_Grease> *either
[09:10] <Hidden_Glimmer> You're talking about the people getting teached equestrian, right?
[09:11] <Bacon_Grease> And teachers, yes
[09:11] <Hidden_Glimmer> How many members has the council right now?
[09:11] <Bacon_Grease> 6 active
[09:11] <Hidden_Glimmer> Ok
[09:11] <Bacon_Grease> and Drew as flippant substitute
[09:11] <Bacon_Grease> although there might be called for a new election
[09:13] <CherenkovLight-phone> You want high end? 500. Low end, two weeks, 300, intensive training either way. 3rd grade level at two, 5th grade level at the 500 price point.
[09:13] <Bacon_Grease> Anyway, 8 private teachers for a month for 500 bits
[09:13] <Hidden_Glimmer> Well, as far as i can tell, the people who need to learn equestrian, besides the council members, are me, the librarian, Starfire the linguist, Able, maybe quick... Parchment page might need learn it, too. Those are the people i can think of right now.
[09:13] <Bacon_Grease> with transport, food and lodging covered
[09:14] <CherenkovLight-phone> Was thinking more of just one teacher for a small class
[09:14] <GingerAle> Oh are we finally trying to get some Equestrian written down?
[09:14] <Lonely_Heart> And we can't really add in Equestrian charity to that now can we?
[09:14] <Hidden_Glimmer> Yeah, but only for a few people
[09:14] <Bacon_Grease> so you want just ine teacher?
[09:14] <Bacon_Grease> or am I missing something?
[09:14] <Lonely_Heart> The town was started because there wouldn't be enough resources, surely the gov't can sponsor a teacher.
[09:15] <Bacon_Grease> *one
[09:15] <Hidden_Glimmer> One, for a class of 15 or less is enough.
[09:15] <Bacon_Grease> So, how many teachers do you want, and for what?
[09:15] <GingerAle> For now it should not be a possibility. Considering we still have plenty to construct an still need more efficient means to mine minerals, we still have a ways to go.
[09:16] <Bacon_Grease> 10 - 12 for classes of 10 - 15?
[09:16] <CherenkovLight-phone> Yes. A bit more realistic that way unless you think we can do eight teachers fir that amount. teaching to read only, maybe gives farming tips as well?
[09:16] <Lonely_Heart> Problem 2 teachers, one to intensely teach those vocationally required to read, the other for townsfolk that have a non vocational want.
[09:17] <Bacon_Grease> I'd imagine classes ramps up the price
[09:17] <Melodious_Harmony> >hire a good teacher from ponyville (Twilight?)
[09:17] <Melodious_Harmony> >everyone is your classmate
[09:17] <Bacon_Grease> >NO
[09:17] <Hidden_Glimmer> >Hiring Twilicorn
[09:17] <GingerAle> That reminds me: Do they even know our language?
[09:18] <Bacon_Grease> The language is the same spoken
[09:18] <Melodious_Harmony> we speak english but they write it differently?
[09:18] <CherenkovLight-phone> I would think private tutors would be more expensive for everyone. They speak english sort of.
[09:18] <Bacon_Grease> with slight quirks
[09:18] <Hidden_Glimmer> Well, they speak english just as we do.
[09:18] <GingerAle> Ahhh
[09:18] <Hidden_Glimmer> Only the writing is different
[09:18] <GingerAle> Yeah, learning Equestrian is important, as is learning better farming and mining skills.
[09:19] <CherenkovLight-phone> Puttinf cap of students at ten.
[09:19] <Bacon_Grease> To be honest Chere, I don't even think we have the room for 10 - 12 classes of 10 - 15
[09:20] <Bacon_Grease> Where would we put them?
[09:20] <CherenkovLight-phone> Thought we had a school house.
[09:20] <Hidden_Glimmer> 10-12 classes of 10-15 people?
[09:20] <Lonely_Heart> We have a library right?
[09:20] <CherenkovLight-phone> Maybe town hall thwn?
[09:20] <Hidden_Glimmer> Yeah, and that's it. A library.
[09:20] <Hidden_Glimmer> Not really a palce to teach alot of people
[09:20] <Hidden_Glimmer> *place
[09:20] <Bacon_Grease> ^
[09:20] <Lonely_Heart> Seems like its going to be smallish classes anyway
[09:21] <Lonely_Heart> and its not like a library would have many patrons if nobody knows how to read
[09:21] <Hidden_Glimmer> I thought we do is so that a small group of people get teached, and they teach it to the rest of the town?
[09:21] <Bacon_Grease> A library without seperate rooms wouldn't be a good place to teach a class
[09:21] <CherenkovLight-phone> Ten people is not a lot. Maybe have two classes then?
[09:21] <Lonely_Heart> guise
[09:21] <Lonely_Heart> what if
[09:21] <Lonely_Heart> they teach it outside?
[09:22] <CherenkovLight-phone> That is the plan, hidden
[09:22] <Bacon_Grease> We would need someone to actually know how to teach properly then, Hidden
[09:22] <Hidden_Glimmer> Mmeh... Ouside won't be a good idea
[09:22] <Hidden_Glimmer> What fi it rains or something?
[09:22] <Hidden_Glimmer> We can't control weather after all.
[09:22] <Bacon_Grease> Also, important deal, the people in question would have to be dedicated to the study
[09:23] <Lonely_Heart> Well if there are no indoor places to teach, then outdoors seems to be the only solutions
[09:23] <Bacon_Grease> they can't just wander off willy-nilly
[09:23] <Hidden_Glimmer> Why not the town hall, or meeting hall?
[09:23] <CherenkovLight-phone> Maybe shut down the inn during the day, or your diner? Agreed, bacon.
[09:23] <Hidden_Glimmer> Or we go crazy and do drunken science at the inn
[09:23] <Bacon_Grease> Even if my diner doesn't get a lot of customers during the day, I'm still trying to run a business
[09:24] <Hidden_Glimmer> What are we paying with, anyways?
[09:24] <Bacon_Grease> >trying
[09:24] <Hidden_Glimmer> Heh
[09:24] <Lonely_Heart> If you are in a class, who would be running the diner?
[09:24] <Bacon_Grease> Favors, mostly
[09:24] <CherenkovLight-phone> True strike's pub is empty i think.
[09:25] <Bacon_Grease> more like, it's dry
[09:25] <CherenkovLight-phone> Or use the radio building since nothing else is in there.
[09:25] <Bacon_Grease> If you want to figure out location IC, I suggest you do it IC
[09:25] <Hidden_Glimmer> Guys, we do have a school house, look at the map
[09:25] <Lonely_Heart> I don't see why we would need to pay these teachers, when it would be in the central gov't best interest to insert agents of propaganda via the guise of charity.
[09:26] <Hidden_Glimmer> Thing is that celestia doesn't trust us
[09:26] <CherenkovLight-phone> Because they hat us and look to get the money they spent back
[09:27] <Bacon_Grease> Lonely, what did the US do after WWII?
[09:27] <Hidden_Glimmer> Bring democracy to germany?
[09:27] <Hidden_Glimmer> Cold war with russia?
[09:27] <Hidden_Glimmer> Arms race?
[09:27] <Bacon_Grease> Give money to Europe for trade with the US
[09:27] <Bacon_Grease> *to trade
[09:28] <Bacon_Grease> For a couple of reasons
[09:28] <Bacon_Grease> 1. to ensure we didn't go commie
[09:29] <Bacon_Grease> 2. to be able to sell off Anerican overproduce and keep the contry stable
[09:29] <Lonely_Heart> You make it sound like we are having a giant war, I haven't read anything saying Celestia and Equestria at large hate us. From the show, they seem to, I don't know, act benevolently, towards other ponies at least.
[09:29] <Bacon_Grease> *American
[09:29] <CherenkovLight-phone> Fuck. Saying 500 for two weeks intensive training. Month is too long.  Will say 300 for less training.
[09:29] <CherenkovLight-phone> Give council options
[09:29] <Bacon_Grease> 3. To strengthen the bond so that we would be more inclined to buy in the future
[09:30] <Hidden_Glimmer> I just think that because of the story arc i heard.
[09:30] <Bacon_Grease> They don't want us to rebel, at least, can we agree on that?
[09:30] <Hidden_Glimmer> Exiling us in an hostile land which they failed to concur?
[09:30] <CherenkovLight-phone> Yes
[09:31] <Bacon_Grease> How do they do that? Make us think of them as an ally, by helping us to solidify, by trading with them
[09:31] <Lonely_Heart> Yeah, and help strengthen ties, why not let a few charities donate teachers/teaching material to this new township?
[09:32] <Hidden_Glimmer> I don't think they trust us enough to send such precious recourses, anyways.
[09:32] <Bacon_Grease> Teachers pay, transport, food, lodging etc. isn't free anywhere
[09:32] <Hidden_Glimmer> What do they know about us? Next to nothing
[09:32] <Bacon_Grease> Charity can easily be taken for granted
[09:33] <Bacon_Grease> by forcing us to trade with them, they can form an actual bond
[09:33] <Bacon_Grease> And because they already gave us more than enough
[09:33] <Hidden_Glimmer> But we have nothing to trade right now.
[09:33] <Melodious_Harmony> We're like another race
[09:33] <Melodious_Harmony> lol
[09:33] <Hidden_Glimmer> We kinda rae
[09:33] <Hidden_Glimmer> *are
[09:33] <Melodious_Harmony> *rare?
[09:33] <Bacon_Grease> We were given food, resource and a common currency
[09:34] <Bacon_Grease> if we don't make anything of it, it's on us
[09:34] <Lonely_Heart> It seems to me, from whats presented in the show, that they would care about us in a way that doesn't boil down to 'fuck you got mine'.
[09:34] <CherenkovLight-phone> We are not the only colony, lonely
[09:35] <Hidden_Glimmer> We're not?
[09:35] <Lonely_Heart> There should have at least been some kind of missionary equivalent sent to us.
[09:35] <CherenkovLight-phone> Everyone from mlp got transported
[09:35] <Bacon_Grease> 5 - 40k people in one village
[09:35] <CherenkovLight-phone> Think of how many people that is
[09:35] <Hidden_Glimmer> >5-40k people
[09:35] <Hidden_Glimmer> Hah.
[09:35] <Hidden_Glimmer> Ok, maybe we could start a war after all.
[09:36] <Bacon_Grease> >everyone who posted on /mlp/ ever
[09:36] <Lonely_Heart> I was never told these numbers, and it doesn't seem like anyone else acts upon those numbers.
[09:36] <Hidden_Glimmer> Then Celestia only has less reason to help such a small settlement as ours
[09:36] <Bacon_Grease> Which is why they aren't just going to charity everything
[09:37] <Tracker> no war please.
[09:37] <Lonely_Heart> I didn't say they should give us everythign we want, I'm talking about cheating in 2-8 teachers for a month or two, to help us assimilate to their culture.
[09:37] <Bacon_Grease> We aren't going to war
[09:37] <Hidden_Glimmer> It was a joke, geeu
[09:37] <Hidden_Glimmer> *geez
[09:38] <Bacon_Grease> 2 - 8 teachers
[09:38] <Bacon_Grease> for every colony
[09:38] <CherenkovLight-phone> Very expensive
[09:38] <Bacon_Grease> Yup
[09:38] <Lonely_Heart> how many colonies do we officially have, because I'm just talking about sending them to THIS colony to start the process.
[09:39] <Bacon_Grease> We were given the currency, so that we could prioritize what we thought was important
[09:39] <Bacon_Grease> We don't know hidden, could be anything from 5 - 500
[09:39] <Lonely_Heart> since, being gamist here, we are the colony with player characters, so fuck the npcs
[09:39] <Hidden_Glimmer> And is literacy really that important?
[09:40] <Lonely_Heart> It is if we want doctors that can read/learn from the body of medical knowledge available on pony anatomy and physiology.
[09:41] <Bacon_Grease> >tfw completely forget beards are a thing
[09:41] <CherenkovLight-phone> Oh, what happened to silver's cockatrice, btw? Never really addressed it since we forgot about it. Yes it is hidden, helps the doctors and us more. Also better farming tecniques
[09:41] <Lonely_Heart> Apparenlty the cock went to able, for 'testing', so Swift wouldn't have to deal with it.
[09:41] <Hidden_Glimmer> bite a pillow and do it, fagget
[09:42] <Bacon_Grease> Like skin deep, or actually into the vein?
[09:42] <CherenkovLight-phone> Maybe some books on flight to help pegasai and spell theory, but no real spells.
[09:42] <Bacon_Grease> Hmm
[09:42] <Bacon_Grease> I don't know if iodine is a good choice
[09:42] <Hidden_Glimmer> Then again, where do we get the books from?
[09:42] <Tracker> books on history would be great too.
[09:42] <Hidden_Glimmer> What do we have in the library, bacon?
[09:43] <Lonely_Heart> >empty shelves, hue
[09:43] <CherenkovLight-phone> The books we found the first time in the mushroom cave
[09:43] <Hidden_Glimmer> Not empty, i just want to have the account he made yesterday with able
[09:43] <Lonely_Heart> because why would equestria donate anything more than 3 books to every colony?
[09:43] <CherenkovLight-phone> Think maybe an herbology book as well
[09:44] <Bacon_Grease> I still need to discuss that, but possibly some childrens books, a little poetry, catalogues and spare pamphlets
[09:44] <Able_Tome> Herbology is in possession of Quick
[09:44] <Able_Tome> also hello
[09:44] <Lonely_Heart> Unless you write the books then there should apparently be nothing because we weren't given anything at all ever besides land and coinage.
[09:44] <Hidden_Glimmer> Hallo Able.
[09:44] <Tracker> creature guide book?
[09:44] <Able_Tome> List was already established, let me dig it up from yesterday
03[09:44] * Sarge is now known as sarge
[09:45] <Hidden_Glimmer> Gotta make a copy of that, so i know what's in my library if anyone asks.
[09:45] <Lonely_Heart> >librarian knowing whats in the library >topkek
[09:45] <Bacon_Grease> I still need to throw it around, but it doesn't seem too out there
[09:46] <Bacon_Grease> Also, cheren, we need to figure out the price of a box of mixed reading materials
[09:46] <Lonely_Heart> >giving a book to every colony would wipe out the royal coffers plus they can't trust us
[09:47] <CherenkovLight-phone> Will think of that at another point. How big we talking here?
[09:47] <Hidden_Glimmer> I don't think making a few books and spread them over the colonies would be a huge loss...
[09:47] <Bacon_Grease> 50 or 60 cm^3
[09:48] <Bacon_Grease> Able's estimates: children books ~ 35, catalogues ~ 15, poetry/fiction ~25, history - 1, remaining - pamphlets
[09:48] <Hidden_Glimmer> 60 cm³? Isn't that next to nothing?
[09:48] <Hidden_Glimmer> thx
[09:48] <Bacon_Grease> My estimates: childrens books ~half a box, catalogues ~one fourth of a box, poetry ~20, remaining - extra pamplets etc.
[09:49] <Tracker> What would ypu say to writing your own guides from expereince? Jotting down and keeping a record of what weve learned.
[09:49] <Able_Tome> [children books ~ 35, catalogues ~ 15, poetry/fiction ~25, history - 1, herbology - 1 (in Quick's possession), remaining - pamphlets] | [children books: basic + modern & dated, catalogues: basic + modern, poerty/fiction: poetic + modern & dated, history: specialized + dated, herbology: specialized + dated]
[09:49] <Bacon_Grease> Go ahead if you want, Tracker. IC or OOC?
[09:50] <Able_Tome> Nova's book if it wasn't retconned: arcane + ancient
[09:50] <Tracker> IC
[09:50] <Able_Tome> Thoce tomes that were acquired during expedition: specialized/arcane + ancient
[09:50] <Bacon_Grease> You'd need to find something to write it in/on then
[09:50] <Bacon_Grease> and with
[09:51] <Tracker> How are they writing their journals? Coulf that be used?
[09:51] <Hidden_Glimmer> Alright then.
[09:51] <Hidden_Glimmer> I thought we just use ink and paper...
[09:52] <CherenkovLight-phone> Switching to computer.
[09:52] <Tracker> I am not a part of this. I am merrly offering ideas.
[09:52] <Bacon_Grease> we don't just have an unlimited supply of those, though
02[09:52] * Hidden_Glimmer rolls her eyes
[09:52] <Bacon_Grease> >unlimited
[09:53] <Bacon_Grease> you can use it for reports and shit, but if you wanna suddenly make books, you are going to need more
[09:53] <Hidden_Glimmer> Let's just say we have a big enough stash to last us for a few years if they're just used for writing logs and books
[09:53] <Able_Tome> language tiers: basic, poetic, specialized, arcane | language differentiation: modern, dated, ancient (splits into unified, earth ponies, pegasi, unicorns)
[09:53] <Hidden_Glimmer> It's not like we're going to mass produce the books.
[09:54] <Bacon_Grease> But still >years
[09:54] <Tracker> Perhaps a community board where one can post flyers, job offers, quest offers, rumors, etc.
[09:54] <Hidden_Glimmer> Imagine a truck full of boxes of paper, how long to you think it'll last?
[09:54] <Cherenkov_Light> enough for people to wrtie their own journals since we were each given a journal to write stuff in, I believe.
[09:55] <Bacon_Grease> How about, half a year, if people are writing reports regularily (which we know they are not)
[09:55] <Cherenkov_Light> [kek bacon]
[09:55] <Hidden_Glimmer> Well, i don't write journals anyways...
[09:56] <Bacon_Grease> like, 75% or so of the town aren't writing reports at all anymore
[09:56] <Hidden_Glimmer> Especially now where we just use pastebins for reports.
[09:56] <Cherenkov_Light> I've been too busy IC. Should start up again soon
[09:56] <Bacon_Grease> we could probably last at least a year on that paper supply, unless we suddenly start making lots of books, or something
[09:57] <Bacon_Grease> >burning paper during winter
[09:57] <Cherenkov_Light> Use them for kindling, yeah...
[09:57] <Tracker> yes, you all should. i need more reading material.
[09:57] <Cherenkov_Light> We could always make more, though
[09:57] <Melodious_Harmony> Is it morning or night in IC?
[09:57] <Able_Tome> day
[09:57] <Hidden_Glimmer> We go by GMT
[09:57] <Hidden_Glimmer> So day
[09:57] <Cherenkov_Light> We have wood, would be time intensive. Depends on what your character wants it to be
[09:58] <Bacon_Grease> Yes, it's character, location dependant, really
[09:58] <Melodious_Harmony> Time check. 1:57 PM GMT
[09:58] <Al_DigganHoles> 7am
[09:58] <Cherenkov_Light> GMT time is for day changes only